January 31, 2011
— Purple Avenger Easy for him to say as he makes a hasty exit stage left.
...Obama's chief political strategist, senior adviser, close friend, late-night sounding board and comedic foil is done at the White House. This was always his plan: two years of insider work from his office near Obama's in the West Wing, then home to family and more freedom in Chicago...So, you're joined at the hip with this Obama guy riding him to the top, so naturally your "plan" was always to bail on him when he needs you the most facing the most hostile political environment he's ever had to face and dump the mess in 2nd stringer Plouff's lap to try and sort out? Right. OK. Sure.
..."Probably more than any time in my lifetime, it's an unfathomable race," Axelrod said of the field of potential opponents...OK, my bad. I was obviously too naive and accepting above, this sounds a lot more like it. Translation: "This isn't an election we're going to be able to astroturf or bullshit our way through, or rig. It might be hard, we could actually lose. Those ignorant serfs want some steak along with their sizzle, but this Obama guy is kinda light on substance, and I don't have a fracking clue how to fix that sort of problem."
"We're going to play big...We're certainly not going to hunker down."As Tonto said when the shit got kinda deep for the Lone Ranger: "What you mean "we" white man?
The Axelturfer is taking a powder, beating feet, getting out of Dodge, making himself scarce, and otherwise insulating himself from aftershocks, consequences and of course sharply declining book deal payoffs should Obama lose in 2012. Losers and their inside story are generally interesting to political strategists, as bad examples and how not to do it, publishers and the general public OTOH aren't as fascinated by the story of losers.
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Posted by: Vic at January 31, 2011 07:22 AM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at January 31, 2011 07:22 AM (mHQ7T)
Posted by: Barry O'Tool at January 31, 2011 07:23 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: joncelli at January 31, 2011 07:23 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at January 31, 2011 07:24 AM (mHQ7T)
Posted by: t-bird at January 31, 2011 07:25 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: maddogg at January 31, 2011 07:26 AM (OlN4e)
Know when to fold'em
Know when to walk away
And know when to run
Runnin' time is here. Good news for the rest of us.
Posted by: Kenny Rogers at January 31, 2011 07:27 AM (GMG6W)
Obama is a narcissist. I'm quite sure he believes broad hand waving and platitudes equate to the heavy lifting to make something happen. Narcissists are like that - stating something to them is like making it happen. Then when it doesn't happen, others will be blamed for the failure.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at January 31, 2011 07:28 AM (6iP/C)
Posted by: Henry Waxman - D, Fat Fingers at January 31, 2011 07:30 AM (A/oSU)
Posted by: Pecos Bill at January 31, 2011 07:30 AM (j84s0)
Uh, Mr. President... there are a number of States who say they will need to see some doucmentation this election to get you on the ballot.... Wait.... you DON'T have a Birth Cert????
I'm outa here....
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 31, 2011 07:30 AM (AdK6a)
Wasn't he quoted, recently, as having said something similar?
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at January 31, 2011 07:31 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: The Robot Devil at January 31, 2011 07:33 AM (LdYLm)
Posted by: t-bird at January 31, 2011 07:33 AM (FcR7P)
At the rate things are going they will in all liklihood be "hunkered down" at some point. Lucky for them they have places like Mt. Weather and the Greenbriar (the ones made public).
I demand mine shaft equality.
Posted by: Beagle at January 31, 2011 07:34 AM (sOtz/)
I think you're right, that was the whole 'you know who'd make a great chief-of-staff? Me!' riff that we had such fun with last week.
Posted by: t-bird at January 31, 2011 11:33 AM (FcR7P)
You'd know who's make a great Senate Majority Leader? Me!
Posted by: Barack at January 31, 2011 07:34 AM (LdYLm)
I'd call that election 2008. Are the Republicans going to run someone in 2012 on the platform of healing the planet whose experience for the job was failed community organizer and "present" State Senator?
Posted by: 18-1 at January 31, 2011 07:34 AM (7BU4a)
No, we are ruled by narcissistic, Harvard-trained, know-nothing, thin-skinned adults.
At least narcissistic teenagers have the ability to learn from their mistakes. These people can't - they give all glory and approbation to the "cause", to hell with anything or anyone else!
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at January 31, 2011 07:35 AM (9hSKh)
At the rate things are going they will in all liklihood be "hunkered down" at some point. Lucky for them they have places like Mt. Weather and the Greenbriar (the ones made public).
I demand mine shaft equality.
Posted by: Beagle at January 31, 2011 11:34 AM (sOtz/)
Oooh, I'd like to go down a shaft!
Posted by: Bwarny Fwank at January 31, 2011 07:35 AM (LdYLm)
You know... maybe we should all pose as Obama-bots and email him telling him how awesome he is and how much of thumb in the eye to those evil Rethuglicans it would be if he just didn't hire a new political director and managed his own campaign. Then he could show how awesome he is at managing things (those evil 'thuglicans still think he's a terrible executive) while also shaming them into slashing their own staffs (staves?) by saving on that salary...
That would be a train-wreck worth watching if he tried that...
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at January 31, 2011 07:36 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: curious at January 31, 2011 07:36 AM (p302b)
Posted by: barack hussein obama at January 31, 2011 07:38 AM (GTbGH)
Enthusiastic youth voters -- many engaged in politics for the first time -- helped fuel Obama's 2008 presidential bid. How will Obama win the votes of young voters who may face tough employment prospects?
"We need to communicate vigorously with them," Axelrod said. "...there are obvious things that we have done that are meaningful to younger people that go to their particular interests. I think younger people more readily than anybody should appreciate what the president -- and will appreciate what the president -- was saying the other night, about how you build the future and what we need to do to secure the kind of future that they are going to live in. I think we have a strong case to make. But we just have to make it."
...
"And so, well, [former President] Clinton repositioned himself and, you know, [Obama] must be repositioning himself. I think what we've done is we've returned to first principles. So much of what he's done is a reflection of things that he said for a long time.
"If we were guilty of anything the first two years, it was we were getting so in the weeds of governance that we did not articulate consistently our principles, our values and our vision. But the principles, values and vision that he is projecting now are completely consistent," Axelrod said, referring to Obama speeches at the Democratic National Convention in Boston and to a college in central Illinois, "with the guy who stood, who spoke to the convention in 2004, who spoke at the Knox College commencement in 2005."
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Posted by: momma at January 31, 2011 07:39 AM (penCf)
Posted by: nevergiveup at January 31, 2011 07:39 AM (0GFWk)
Axlegrease looks like what he is, a slimy, pathological, lowlife scumbag stuffed with maggots.
No, I don't like him....
Posted by: maddogg at January 31, 2011 07:42 AM (OlN4e)
Posted by: nevergiveup at January 31, 2011 07:42 AM (0GFWk)
I think the narcissist Obama's version of hunkering down is trying to govern in campaign mode. Its the only thing he knows how to do.
In this regard, Obama is more incompetent than Carter who at least understood the electioneering had to end, and the administrating begin after the election was won. Carter understood what the job would actually entail, even though he was poor at executing it. I don't think Obama is comfortable with this executive position at all, nor do I think he has a full appreciation of what the job specs were/are.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at January 31, 2011 07:42 AM (6iP/C)
Posted by: dananjcon at January 31, 2011 07:42 AM (pr+up)
Posted by: Chicago at January 31, 2011 07:43 AM (mI11M)
Axlegrease looks like what he is, a slimy, pathological, lowlife scumbag stuffed with maggots.
No, I don't like him....
Posted by: maddogg at January 31, 2011 11:42 AM (OlN4e)
We fund him repulsive as well.
Posted by: Maggot anti defamation league at January 31, 2011 07:45 AM (pr+up)
via twitter breaking news
and oddly I read this morning that few Americans were registered with the embassy. I'm wondering if they were caught off guard by the number of Americans they have to take care of?
Posted by: curious at January 31, 2011 07:46 AM (p302b)
Posted by: t-bird at January 31, 2011 07:47 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Maggot anti defamation league at January 31, 2011 07:47 AM (pr+up)
If that is true then even with a dead girl and a live boy the Republican nominee will win.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at January 31, 2011 07:50 AM (LH6ir)
I'm wondering if they were caught off guard by the number of Americans they have to take care of?
You're supposed to expect 2-3x the number of registered Americans in these cases, IIRC.
Posted by: Alex at January 31, 2011 07:51 AM (J2ejK)
Posted by: t-bird at January 31, 2011 07:52 AM (FcR7P)
I guess who is really in charge there is becoming clearer?
Posted by: curious at January 31, 2011 07:52 AM (p302b)
PA, why all the h8 for David Shrum?
Posted by: ya2daup at January 31, 2011 07:52 AM (7GfKM)
You know what's unfathomable? "High-Speed Rail!" as a campaign slogan.
Posted by: t-bird at January 31, 2011 11:47 AM (FcR7P)
Dunno ... this works for me: Obama: Ride Him Out of Town on a High-Speed Rail!
Posted by: ya2daup at January 31, 2011 07:55 AM (7GfKM)
Posted by: nevergiveup at January 31, 2011 07:56 AM (0GFWk)
Posted by: joncelli at January 31, 2011 07:58 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: nevergiveup at January 31, 2011 07:59 AM (0GFWk)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at January 31, 2011 07:59 AM (CpbrP)
"No, we are ruled by narcissistic, Harvard-trained, know-nothing, thin-skinned adults."
Precisely, except they think they know everything. They went to Harvard after all!!! God give us real men/women who come from working stock. Enough with the chosen elites.
Posted by: Tigtog at January 31, 2011 08:00 AM (Q5+Og)
The talking head on MSNBC said this and I thought I misheard.
Posted by: curious at January 31, 2011 08:00 AM (p302b)
Posted by: joncelli at January 31, 2011 11:58 AM (RD7QR)
There is only one Luke Skywalker!
Posted by: John McCain at January 31, 2011 08:00 AM (LdYLm)
Speaking of "high-speed rail" did anyone notice the news out of Germany?
Also, I'm pretty sure high-speed rail is not nice to the environment. Everything they support they will also end up opposing. See, windmills and NIMBY.
Posted by: Beagle at January 31, 2011 08:00 AM (sOtz/)
Posted by: joncelli at January 31, 2011 11:58 AM (RD7QR)
He's a rock-ribbed conservsative...like me!
Posted by: Scott Brown at January 31, 2011 08:01 AM (pr+up)
Posted by: John "Master Yoda" McCain at January 31, 2011 08:02 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: John at January 31, 2011 08:03 AM (RD7QR)
Based on what do you find him to be RINOish?
So far the only knock I've found against him is that he signed into a consortium of western states on carbon trading (WIC). I think Utah may have pulled out of it (under Herbert).
Reading circa 2008 news articles about him, I'm finding him called a "centrist" who angered some conservatives because of three things: he loosened our liquor laws here, supported civil unions for gays, and the WIC thing. He was re-elected with 78% of the vote.
I am still researching how the WIC thing came about -- but I will say we have a serious smog problem in this state in the winter time b/c of the geography of our most populated valleys.
He paid lip service to a path to citizenship for illegals (similar to Palin's statements from around that same time), but did not veto any legislation on addressing illegal aliens. Obviously he's spotless on guns. Also reportedly fine on abortion restrictions and reported good on taxes in the local media (so far as I've seen).
Posted by: Y-not at January 31, 2011 08:08 AM (pW2o8)
How bout: B.O.A.T.
Barak, One Angery Trotskiite
(took 5mins to think of this one...patting myself on the back)
Posted by: dananjcon at January 31, 2011 08:10 AM (pr+up)
Posted by: nevergiveup at January 31, 2011 08:12 AM (0GFWk)
Posted by: curious at January 31, 2011 08:13 AM (p302b)
Actually, while it nearly causes me physical pain to agree with Axelrod, stacks of press coverage going all the way back to Obama's inauguration have said that Axelrod would stay in the White House for only a couple years, then leave to work on the re-election campaign.
Posted by: MikeJ at January 31, 2011 08:14 AM (Xg3TS)
Posted by: joncelli at January 31, 2011 08:14 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: nevergiveup at January 31, 2011 08:15 AM (0GFWk)
Posted by: nevergiveup at January 31, 2011 08:15 AM (0GFWk)
Posted by: joncelli at January 31, 2011 08:17 AM (RD7QR)
All is going to the MB's plan.
How many MBs have escaped/been released from prison?
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at January 31, 2011 08:17 AM (9hSKh)
Posted by: joncelli at January 31, 2011 08:17 AM (RD7QR)
FIFY
Posted by: Joe Mama at January 31, 2011 08:17 AM (pRKLf)
Posted by: nevergiveup at January 31, 2011 08:17 AM (0GFWk)
"Another 2012 possibility for me, who is not on this list, is Jon Huntsman. He is a rare governor with foreign policy experience, as well as private sector. He is suitably conservative on most issues. As a former missionary in Taiwan, he speaks fluent Mandarin. President Obama appointed him as ambassador to China. Huntsman has been awarded six honorary doctorate degrees, so he's frightfully intelligent. He graduated from University of Utah and got his bachelor's at U Penn. But he dropped out of high school to join a rock band, loves metal and played with REO Speedwagon at a state fair. As a Mormon, Glenn Beck has already spoken favorably about him as a primary candidate. He'd easily win NV.
Before people worry that he's too moderate after working in the Obama administration, he was a White House staff assistant during the Reagan years, Bush Sr.'s Deputy Assistant Secretary of Commerce and ambassador to Singapore and a Deputy US Trade Representative under W. This guy has serious policy chops, and I look forward to hearing his ideas."
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at January 31, 2011 08:18 AM (mHQ7T)
Posted by: B.H. O'brother at January 31, 2011 08:18 AM (pr+up)
OT, but it's been a while since we've had any decent Assmunch dickery to bash, so I just have to share.
From the UK's Daily Mail:
'They're informants... if they get killed, they deserve it': New book reveals shocking disregard of Julian Assange towards Afghans named in WikiLeaks cables
Now I only believe so much when it comes to hearsay, but given Asshat's generally blase attitude towards the safety of anyone but himself, I wouldn't be at all surprised to find this is true. I certainly wouldn't call it "shocking" coming from the twisted piece of excrement.
Also:
As he tried to flee to his Norfolk bolt-hole last November he dressed up as an elderly woman to avoid capture.
James Ball, who works for WikiLeaks, says in The Guardian's book 'You can't imagine how ridiculous it was. He'd stayed dressed up as an old woman for more than two hours.'
AWESOME.
Posted by: MWR at January 31, 2011 08:19 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at January 31, 2011 12:17 PM (9hSKh)
Too many?
Posted by: Joe Mama at January 31, 2011 08:19 AM (pRKLf)
We can haz weather thread?
I thought it wasn't going to bother me, but we're going to get high winds and possible tornadoes. IOW, I will definitely lose power.
Lose it every other month for no reason, grumble grumble.
Posted by: Mama AJ at January 31, 2011 08:19 AM (XdlcF)
I always thought Mitt Romney's biggest obstacle was his spineless character, not his religion.
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at January 31, 2011 08:20 AM (mHQ7T)
Posted by: Soona at January 31, 2011 08:20 AM (1sRTx)
Posted by: naturalfake at January 31, 2011 08:21 AM (+kzvp)
Posted by: t-bird at January 31, 2011 08:21 AM (FcR7P)
Won't someone just please go ahead and beat this pansy to death with a lead pipe? The world has fallen into pussitude.
And I denounce my own vitriole.
Posted by: toby928™ at January 31, 2011 08:22 AM (GTbGH)
Lose it every other month for no reason, grumble grumble.
Posted by: Mama AJ at January 31, 2011 12:19 PM (XdlcF)
This is no accident and your rates will neccessarily sky-rocket.
Posted by: B.H. O'brother at January 31, 2011 08:22 AM (pr+up)
Posted by: nevergiveup at January 31, 2011 08:22 AM (0GFWk)
Posted by: nevergiveup at January 31, 2011 08:23 AM (0GFWk)
We can haz weather thread?
I thought it wasn't going to bother me, but we're going to get high winds and possible tornadoes. IOW, I will definitely lose power.
Posted by: Mama AJ at January 31, 2011 12:19 PM (XdlcF)
Stay safe! I could never live anywhere prone to tornadoes. I'm a complete wimp when it comes to severe storms. I denounce myself.
Lose it every other month for no reason, grumble grumble.
Gah, sounds like my hometown here in NH. It could be a beautiful, bright, sunny summer day, no wind or rain, and BAM! Power would go out. And just in OUR section of the town. Cross over Route 77 and everyone in the SOUTHERN half of town would still have their lights on. Bastards.
Posted by: MWR at January 31, 2011 08:23 AM (4df7R)
This is no accident and your rates will neccessarily sky-rocket.
I knew it!
And they say I'm too paranoid...
Posted by: Mama AJ at January 31, 2011 08:24 AM (XdlcF)
Posted by: joncelli at January 31, 2011 08:25 AM (RD7QR)
Tattoo, Was that from one of our Beehive morons?
I remember some criticism about him here over an effort to have school vouchers in our state. My recollection was that he was criticized for failing to promote the pro-voucher side when it came up to a vote. The guy on the other side of the issue (some business guy - perhaps the Overstock.com guy - who was paying the bills for the pro-voucher side) was really vicious about Huntsman in the press, so it looked kind of personal.
Anyway, my read was Huntsman chose to not wade in on that issue because our public schools are grossly underfunded on a per capita basis (lots of kids per family, low wages in Utah) so a voucher program could be a problem.
Posted by: Y-not at January 31, 2011 08:25 AM (pW2o8)
Posted by: curious at January 31, 2011 08:26 AM (p302b)
You would think that with him being such a notorious Muslim apostate and ethnic Jew, the MB would make the effort.
*cough*
Posted by: toby928™ at January 31, 2011 08:26 AM (GTbGH)
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Sorry to hear that, MamaAJ. Are you stocked up at home?
Posted by: Y-not at January 31, 2011 08:26 AM (pW2o8)
Huntsman graduated from Penn in 1987 with a bachelorÂ’s degree in international politics. He was a member of the UniversityÂ’s Board of Trustees from 1996 through 2000, and his family has been a strong benefactor of the University, endowing the Huntsman Program in International Studies and Business and Jon M. Huntsman Hall, named for the ambassadorÂ’s father, at PennÂ’s Wharton School.
Interesting. Want to know more.
Posted by: Mama AJ at January 31, 2011 08:27 AM (XdlcF)
If you knew you were inheriting the family business then why would you major in international politics?
Posted by: curious at January 31, 2011 08:28 AM (p302b)
Posted by: toby928™ at January 31, 2011 08:29 AM (GTbGH)
Posted by: t-bird at January 31, 2011 11:25 AM (FcR7P)
I hope so. Let Barry's ego run his 2012 campaign
Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 31, 2011 08:29 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: joncelli at January 31, 2011 08:29 AM (RD7QR)
Stay safe! I could never live anywhere prone to tornadoes.
I'm still traumatized from the one that went through our neighborhood when we first moved in.
I had no clue it was a tornado at the time, cuz I'm an idiot, but afterwards...
Sorry to hear that, MamaAJ. Are you stocked up at home?
Mostly, need to double check!!
Posted by: Mama AJ, trying to find where the kids hid all the flashlights at January 31, 2011 08:30 AM (XdlcF)
I think beck wants you to tie the chicago guy to the brotherhood folks, but that's a stretch oh and to france piven, I see the chicago guy tie in with piven but not with the brotherhood.
Posted by: curious at January 31, 2011 08:30 AM (p302b)
Posted by: Soona at January 31, 2011 08:31 AM (1sRTx)
Posted by: curious at January 31, 2011 12:26 PM (p302b)
Oh pulease! Did you notice the MB as the 4H club meme being spewed from the talkings heads this weekend?? The Tea Party in comparison is HAMAS...I loathe the MFM.
Posted by: dananjcon at January 31, 2011 08:31 AM (pr+up)
Posted by: joncelli at January 31, 2011 08:32 AM (RD7QR)
Oops, forgot to mention the source of my quote was from some Penn press release when Hunstman got an honorary degree.
Posted by: Mama AJ at January 31, 2011 08:33 AM (XdlcF)
Posted by: curious at January 31, 2011 08:33 AM (p302b)
Posted by: joncelli at January 31, 2011 08:34 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: curious at January 31, 2011 12:33 PM (p302b)
Hey! what about me?? Its my color isn't it!!
Raaaaaaaaaaacist!!!
Posted by: Brown at January 31, 2011 08:35 AM (pr+up)
Posted by: t-bird at January 31, 2011 08:36 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Jean at January 31, 2011 08:36 AM (aemFw)
Posted by: joncelli at January 31, 2011 12:34 PM (RD7QR)
I was sort of being tongue in cheek.
Interesting that two prominent wharton grads are stepping up. Trump and Huntsman. Coincidence?
Posted by: curious at January 31, 2011 08:37 AM (p302b)
Posted by: AoSHQ stylebook of mixed metaphors at January 31, 2011 08:38 AM (GTbGH)
Interesting. Want to know more.
*****
One thing I'm curious about is how Jr's environmental policies jibe with his family's business interests. On the one hand, that reassures me that he is not an eco-nazi, even if he needs educating on AGW. On the other hand, when he took the Amb in China, at the time I did some reading and was a little concerned there was a potl for conflict of interest because of the ongoing activities of the Huntsman Corp in the far east.
I don't mean to imply I'm pushing him, but I am a little frustrated by the misinformation I've been reading about him around the intertubes and the laughable characterization that he's some big social liberal.
FWIW, I've read in the local media (from 2008 archives) that Huntsman Jr, unlike his dad (who is an Area Seventy - LDS church official), describes himself as not being a very devout Mormon. I think Mitt is a more devout Mormon than Huntsman Jr. I don't think this is a walk-back to appease evangelicals, but really how he sees himself.
Posted by: Y-not at January 31, 2011 08:38 AM (pW2o8)
The Tea Party in comparison is HAMAS
Hey, I went to a bunch of local TP rallys, where's my evil gun show loophole Katyusha rockets and RPG7s? I am depressed.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 31, 2011 08:38 AM (TAjuH)
They sort of let Columbia in peripherally but really UPenn is thought of almost as badly as Cornell and Dartmouth.
...when not mistaken for Penn State (NTTAWWT)
Wharton School is big medicine in the business world
Yep, yep.
Posted by: Mama AJ at January 31, 2011 08:38 AM (XdlcF)
Posted by: t-bird at January 31, 2011 08:39 AM (FcR7P)
I have to disagree. Wharton is the top B-school.
Posted by: Y-not at January 31, 2011 08:39 AM (pW2o8)
Interesting. Want to know more.
Posted by: Mama AJ at January 31, 2011 12:27 PM (XdlcF)
That's why I pointed out his private sector experience. Huntsman Corporation is a global chemical company with 11,000 employees and revenues of approximately $8 billion.
Huntsman serves a variety of end markets, the largest of which is consumer durables and non-durables, followed by paints and coatings, insulation and other construction materials, chemicals, energy and aerospace.
Huntsman holds global leadership positions in MDI (diphenylmethane diisocyanate), polyurethane catalysts, epoxy adhesives, epoxy powder coating systems, aerospace composites, electrical insulating materials, textile effect chemicals, polyetheramines, ethylene and propylene carbonates, and maleic anhydride. Its technologies are used in markets such as adhesives and inks, aerospace, automotive, coatings, construction, electronics, medical, marine, sports equipment and wind power generation. Plus, he served as an executive for the Huntsman Cancer Foundation. He has a grasp on two hot button issues this election: jobs and healthcare.Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at January 31, 2011 08:39 AM (mHQ7T)
Posted by: momma at January 31, 2011 12:37 PM (penCf)
Yeesh, Soros is OZ. Btw...how old is he? He can't have too much time left... can he?
Posted by: dananjcon at January 31, 2011 08:42 AM (pr+up)
Posted by: Y-not at January 31, 2011 12:38 PM (pW2o
Anything's better than a closet Muslim. Evangelicals will agree.
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at January 31, 2011 08:42 AM (mHQ7T)
Axelrod is going to try to get Skippy another four years of golf.
Posted by: Socpupit at January 31, 2011 08:42 AM (uiKEv)
Huntsman Sr is self-made billionaire, so at least Jr is not really old money. He's second generation money. I think that's a big difference compared to the Kennedys, Rockefellers, and that type.
Posted by: Y-not at January 31, 2011 08:42 AM (pW2o8)
His two sons are worse than their old man.
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at January 31, 2011 08:43 AM (mHQ7T)
Posted by: curious at January 31, 2011 08:43 AM (p302b)
Interesting that two prominent wharton grads are stepping up.
The Fighting Quakers will take over the world!!!!
Posted by: Mama AJ, oxy-moron at January 31, 2011 08:43 AM (XdlcF)
I'm sure some won't vote for a Mormon, but I think some will. I personally know an Evangelical who voted for Mitt in the CA primary. Even had a yard sign.
It's like any group -- there are the really hard core folks and the folks who are more flexible.
Posted by: Y-not at January 31, 2011 08:44 AM (pW2o8)
Huntsman has been awarded six honorary doctorate degrees, so he's frightfully intelligent.
Not necessarily.
Posted by: Mortimer Snerd at January 31, 2011 08:44 AM (mQMnK)
Posted by: palin steele and archie bunker at January 31, 2011 08:44 AM (BP6Z1)
Posted by: Jean at January 31, 2011 08:45 AM (lnUW/)
Anyone else see these commercials?
Posted by: curious at January 31, 2011 08:46 AM (p302b)
Momma, I posted a link that Breitbart tweeted this morning to an article on Big Govt. How big labor (which is also soros) is behind the riots. They really want communist revolution. Oh and btw, our state department.
http://bit.ly/f45AH7Posted by: dagny at January 31, 2011 08:46 AM (0Hp4r)
First, the U is an excellent state university.
Second, almost every Mormon male transfers. They start out their schooling, then go on their mission, then come back. It's actually a pain in the ass for the state universities here because our retention rates look so bad. The really telling thing is he got into Penn and didn't wind up at BYU.
I really doubt that he only got into Penn because of his dad.
Posted by: Y-not at January 31, 2011 08:46 AM (pW2o8)
Posted by: t-bird at January 31, 2011 08:46 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: The MFM at January 31, 2011 08:47 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Y-not at January 31, 2011 12:46 PM (pW2o
yeah, you're right. I mean so what if there's a building there named for him, it makes no difference in their decision to admit him. What was I thinking, how stupid of me.
Posted by: curious at January 31, 2011 08:48 AM (p302b)
Returning Israelis: Egypt protests are not as bad as they seem
Still, the Israeli military is taking precautions:
Israel allows Egypt move several hundred troops into Sinai Peninsula for the first time since 1979 peace treaty - AP http://bit.ly/hq3nGy
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at January 31, 2011 08:48 AM (9hSKh)
I hope a guy like him is not too damaged with smears early on because he really could be a useful addition to a ticket.
Posted by: Y-not at January 31, 2011 08:49 AM (pW2o8)
Posted by: Mortimer Snerd at January 31, 2011 08:50 AM (mQMnK)
Posted by: WC Fields at January 31, 2011 08:50 AM (mHQ7T)
Posted by: nevergiveup at January 31, 2011 12:12 PM (0GFWk)
If anyone in the administration had a clue, that would be the out they would be looking for.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at January 31, 2011 08:51 AM (CpbrP)
He graduated in 87.
The Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania is now at home in the world's most advanced academic center for management education. The $139.9-million, 324,000 square-foot facility – named Jon M. Huntsman Hall after the Wharton alumnus, corporate leader, and philanthropist – opened in August, 2002.
Posted by: Mama AJ, oxy-moron at January 31, 2011 08:51 AM (XdlcF)
Posted by: WC Fields at January 31, 2011 12:50 PM (mHQ7T)
who is "hating on the successful?"
Posted by: curious at January 31, 2011 08:51 AM (p302b)
Your "argument" for his admission into Penn was that he got into a local university and then transferred to Penn... plus the building name.
Eliminate the transfer argument for a moment, acknowledge that his dad has his name on buildings, endowments, and programs in many universities - including BYU - and ask yourself if your argument makes sense.
Or do you really think Wharton is that shoddy of a school?
Posted by: Y-not at January 31, 2011 08:52 AM (pW2o8)
Frances Piven ought to be worried about where the fuck her next lay is coming from rather than where her next goddamn riot's coming from. If she'd get her ass out to fuckin bars at night and go hustlin around the goddamn street she might get a prick stuck in her once in a while.
Posted by: Earl Weaver at January 31, 2011 08:52 AM (MadRw)
Posted by: curious at January 31, 2011 11:46 AM
As you doubtless know, "registering with the embassy" is something that long-term visitors _should_ do, but don't always. In addition, our state dept. (supposedly) keeps track of who comes in, but not who goes out or where they go. It's what happens in an open society.
Posted by: arhooley, conflicted Californian at January 31, 2011 08:52 AM (fVwV8)
Posted by: Jean at January 31, 2011 08:52 AM (G5WHn)
His two sons are worse than their old man.
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at January 31, 2011 12:43 PM (mHQ7T)
Oh man, God help us...Anti American billionares shorting the worlds economies, pushing a sociallist progressive agenda and fomenting dissent in 3rd world nations. Chips off the ol' block.
Nice.
Posted by: dananjcon at January 31, 2011 08:53 AM (pr+up)
I just don't know why I think I need my money more than my alma mater does...
State-of-the-art Academic Building 48 classrooms and 57 group study rooms all with capabilities for multimedia, audio videoconferencing, video production and editing, connectivity between group work stations and Internet access.
Four teaching labs.
Two study lounges; two social lounges.
4,000 square-foot Forum that will be the center of undergraduate life and activity, accommodating up to 500 people for special events.
A Colloquium, located on the top floor, will host faculty research events. It features a main presentation room with seating for up to 200, as well as meeting rooms.
East Hall, a sky-lit meeting space with commanding views of both the academic core of PennÂ’s campus and of Center City, Philadelphia.
A 300-seat auditorium and foyer on the ground floor for large lectures, guest speaker series, major student and faculty conferences, as well as alumni events.
Posted by: Mama AJ at January 31, 2011 08:53 AM (XdlcF)
A guy busts his hump putting together that resume, and you think he wants to give the top slot to anyone else currently in the field? Another thing, raising the money to go up against Obama will not be difficult for him.
Posted by: WC Fields at January 31, 2011 08:53 AM (mHQ7T)
Posted by: Chuck "The Schmuck" Schumer at January 31, 2011 08:54 AM (tvs2p)
Posted by: Jean at January 31, 2011 12:52 PM (G5WHn)
Geithner can. That would be an amusing SNL skit with Huntsman and Turbo Tax Timmeh speaking economic kung fu.
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at January 31, 2011 08:56 AM (mHQ7T)
It would be shoddy for the school to admit someone on their name? Or not? I don't understand.
Of course they would admit him on his name. It happens all the time. I know them...then they coast on their name. It's standard.
Posted by: dagny at January 31, 2011 08:57 AM (0Hp4r)
who is "hating on the successful?"
Posted by: curious at January 31, 2011 12:51 PM (p302b)
You just said he only got into Wharton as a legacy.
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at January 31, 2011 08:58 AM (mHQ7T)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at January 31, 2011 08:58 AM (mHQ7T)
No, I don't necessarily "want" him to, but I think if for some reason another candidate pops up as the nominee, I'd like to have the option.
I'm really undecided about Huntsman. My main interest now is seeing if he really does resign (which the local media are now saying he's going to do, too) and learning as much factual information about his record as I can and seeing what his platform/priorities would be.
Right now it seems like there's a strong undercurrent of "purity" running through the GOP. Those folks are less impressed by what I'd call qualifications/resume and more concerned with perfection in what a candidate says. If that continues, then I suspect Huntsman has no chance and that the GOP will lose in 2012.
Posted by: Y-not at January 31, 2011 09:00 AM (pW2o8)
You just said he only got into Wharton as a legacy.
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at January 31, 2011 12:58 PM (mHQ7T)
I'm sure he had the qualifications and the legacy didn't hurt. I was also saying why not Harvard or Yale.
Posted by: curious at January 31, 2011 09:02 AM (p302b)
Well, my husband has been at the upper level (VP level) of some really great places for quite a while now - and I also worked in higher ed admin in a very good B-school's dean's office - and we have only observed requests for admissions and HDrs based on connections without merit being turned down. And our professional colleagues from other schools shared similar stories. So I'm curious where you've worked that you've seen otherwise.
Posted by: Y-not at January 31, 2011 09:03 AM (pW2o8)
Once again Obama's prescience with the moratorium on drilling in the gulf is proving to be a brilliant stroke of international and domestic energy policy.
BRILLIANT!!!
Posted by: dananjcon at January 31, 2011 09:03 AM (pr+up)
Wharton is the top B-school. Yale doesn't even rate. I'd put Chicago's above Yale.
Posted by: Y-not at January 31, 2011 09:03 AM (pW2o8)
Posted by: Y-not at January 31, 2011 01:00 PM (pW2o
In other words, the GOP will let the media pick their candidate again. Axelrod is going back to his astroturfing, and we're screwed. I hope this guy is smarter than that. Two-term governor, I would think he knows how to win. We'll see.
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at January 31, 2011 09:04 AM (mHQ7T)
Posted by: grognard at January 31, 2011 09:04 AM (NS2Mo)
Posted by: Y-not at January 31, 2011 09:06 AM (pW2o8)
but wiki says he only got his batchelor's at UPenn in international politics. That is what I was speaking about.
Posted by: curious at January 31, 2011 09:06 AM (p302b)
Posted by: Jean at January 31, 2011 09:06 AM (lnUW/)
His two sons are worse than their old man.
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at January 31, 2011 12:43 PM (mHQ7T)
Funny how that works.
Posted by: Zombie Saddam Hussein at January 31, 2011 09:07 AM (NS2Mo)
Posted by: LizLem at January 31, 2011 09:07 AM (lSuMX)
Posted by: curious at January 31, 2011 01:02 PM (p302b)
You liked Carl Paladino, so one shudders to think what you find "normal."
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at January 31, 2011 09:07 AM (mHQ7T)
Posted by: curious at January 31, 2011 01:02 PM (p302b)
You liked Carl Paladino, so one shudders to think what you find "normal."
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at January 31, 2011 01:07 PM (mHQ7T)
hahahhahahhhhahah
Posted by: curious at January 31, 2011 09:09 AM (p302b)
Posted by: Jean at January 31, 2011 09:09 AM (aemFw)
That's a good take. I'm just happy to see some new faces that aren't too new.
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at January 31, 2011 09:11 AM (mHQ7T)
Posted by: Barack Obama Sr. or Malcolm X or Frank Marshall Davis at January 31, 2011 09:11 AM (FcR7P)
I really do wish some obscure but fabulous candidate will emerge that even inedpnedents like me will love.
Posted by: curious at January 31, 2011 09:11 AM (p302b)
Posted by: "I like Mandates" at January 31, 2011 09:17 AM (c5RQr)
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 31, 2011 09:19 AM (c5RQr)
Posted by: Carney Johnson at January 31, 2011 09:19 AM (By4wu)
Posted by: Jason D. at January 31, 2011 09:20 AM (sqLKs)
Posted by: t-bird at January 31, 2011 09:20 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 31, 2011 09:20 AM (tf9Ne)
....and that's where you left the real world for la-la land.
Posted by: grognard at January 31, 2011 09:21 AM (NS2Mo)
More than a chance.
Posted by: $5 a gallon gasoline at January 31, 2011 09:22 AM (GTbGH)
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 31, 2011 09:22 AM (c5RQr)
Posted by: 10% unemployment at January 31, 2011 09:23 AM (GTbGH)
Posted by: 10% unemployment at January 31, 2011 01:23 PM (GTbGH)
You can't have Squeaky!
Posted by: Richard Gere at January 31, 2011 09:23 AM (NS2Mo)
Posted by: 8.8 million lost jobs at January 31, 2011 09:28 AM (GTbGH)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 31, 2011 01:20 PM (tf9Ne)
So then we have a winning team. Palin the Alaska quitter for president and Huntsman the Utah quitter for Vice President. They could have t sirts that say "quitters rising".
Posted by: curious at January 31, 2011 09:28 AM (p302b)
Posted by: The BLS at January 31, 2011 09:30 AM (FcR7P)
I seem to have gotten back from Daily Kos at the right moment. BIIIIG EVENT: Some Black guy with a long history of racist, violent, hateful rants finally got banned. So what's the response? A bunch of White girls are denouncing themselves. No need for me to link -- it's the Top-Rated Diary!!!
Posted by: arhooley, conflicted Californian at January 31, 2011 09:31 AM (fVwV8)
Posted by: dagny at January 31, 2011 09:32 AM (0Hp4r)
Really, Jace-jace, what the fuck made you leftards think that empty suit had any scrap of qualification for the office?
Posted by: nickless at January 31, 2011 09:32 AM (HKVGZ)
I seem to have gotten back from Daily Kos at the right moment. BIIIIG EVENT: Some Black guy with a long history of racist, violent, hateful rants finally got banned. So what's the response? A bunch of White girls are denouncing themselves. No need for me to link -- it's the Top-Rated Diary!!!
Posted by: arhooley, conflicted Californian at January 31, 2011 01:31 PM (fVwV
They really hate their daddies.
Posted by: Sir Barky at January 31, 2011 09:32 AM (pr+up)
Please expand.
Posted by: arhooley, conflicted Californian at January 31, 2011 09:33 AM (fVwV8)
They can always listen to his sermons on Sunday.
Posted by: nickless at January 31, 2011 09:34 AM (7Jipo)
BO thought he was too clever by half appointing him to his administration. He thought he could ship off a potential rival and taint him by association. As long as Huntsman hasn't bowed to anyone in China, he's the best we could ask for over there and more power to him. As for the MSM, they're in the news business. I haven't heard them talking him up, though. Have a look at The Hill's GOP 2012 blog, if you don't believe me.
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at January 31, 2011 09:35 AM (mHQ7T)
Huntsman is receptive to environmental issues and would like the state to reduce fuel and energy consumption. He is also concerned with nuclear waste being stored within his state.
Ix-nay if ue-tray.
Posted by: arhooley, conflicted Californian at January 31, 2011 09:36 AM (fVwV8)
Posted by: Boehner's 2016 Presidential Campaign Slogan at January 31, 2011 09:37 AM (pr+up)
Posted by: dagny at January 31, 2011 01:32 PM (0Hp4r)
Damning with faint praise, really. Most b-school students wouldn't last a day in the math Ph.D. program at Penn or LSE.
Harvard probably has social promotion, though.
Posted by: AmishDude at January 31, 2011 09:37 AM (T0NGe)
Posted by: dick cheese at January 31, 2011 01:33 PM
See, this is why you should have an emergency Kos account.
Posted by: arhooley, conflicted Californian at January 31, 2011 09:38 AM (fVwV8)
A least Huntsman finished his first term
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at January 31, 2011 09:39 AM (mHQ7T)
Posted by: Annabelle at January 31, 2011 09:39 AM (4kxCX)
Huntsman is receptive to environmental issues and would like the state to reduce fuel and energy consumption. He is also concerned with nuclear waste being stored within his state.
Total deal breaker.
Posted by: dananjcon at January 31, 2011 09:40 AM (pr+up)
Yeah, I figured that might be a deal breaker for some. But "not storing nuclear waste among my freaked out constituents" is understandable, isn't it? Then it seems his family business profits from windmills. I'm still interested.
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at January 31, 2011 09:42 AM (mHQ7T)
Posted by: Boehner's 2016 Presidential Campaign Slogan at January 31, 2011 01:37 PM (pr+up)
Hehe...just occurred to me. This could be be Barry's 2012 slogan as well.
Posted by: dananjcon at January 31, 2011 09:43 AM (pr+up)
McCain!
Posted by: Guy who just woke up from a 2008 coma at January 31, 2011 09:44 AM (lnUW/)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at January 31, 2011 09:45 AM (mHQ7T)
A company does not "profit" from windmills. They profit from government subsidies for windmills. Couple family business interest with old money guilt and it's a recipe for disaster.
Posted by: AmishDude at January 31, 2011 09:45 AM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at January 31, 2011 09:48 AM (mHQ7T)
Posted by: SurferDoc at January 31, 2011 09:53 AM (o3bYL)
If there is a market for their products being used in creating windmills, they're not profiting from subsidies. Unless Hunjtsman Corps is also in bed with the insidious sports equipment lobby. My argument was that perhaps he has some insight into alternative energy production besides ethanol subsidies, and that makes him more open-minded than just drilling, which will be a tough sell to independents after the Deepwater Horizon disaster.
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at January 31, 2011 09:55 AM (mHQ7T)
Always trust the briefest expression of what your gut tells you.
Posted by: AoSHQ's DarkLord© at January 31, 2011 09:58 AM (GBXon)
Posted by: SurferDoc at January 31, 2011 10:08 AM (o3bYL)
He's a moderate enough repub that independents and softie dems won't have a problem voting for him.
He must be a maverick! Just like my daddy.
Posted by: Megan McCain at January 31, 2011 10:46 AM (mQMnK)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at February 01, 2011 06:53 AM (mHQ7T)
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