August 16, 2011
— Open Blogger Heard a few minutes of Richard Riordan on a local radio show (Prager?).He was a 2 term mayor of LA. Republican and reasonably successful. I voted for him both times. I think he left LA a little better off than he found it.He was chatting about the miserable performance of President Obama. He admitted that he had voted for Obama. He said (paraphrase), "I couldn't vote for a guy from the bottom of his class at the Annapolis over a guy from the top of his class at Harvard."Please refer to this earlier post.
P58 - The technocrats go to Harvard and Yale. Palin's colleges are abhorrent! This is a new attitude. Truman didn't have a degree!
McCain's record of success after the academy didn't impress Riordan. I recall that McCain was not just a jet-jock - he commanded a large training squadron. The Navy doesn't hand out those assignments to dopes. McCain didn't just command the squadron - he was successful there. But he just didn't have the elite credentials to impress Riordan enough so Riordan helped put Obama in office.
Riordan is one of those special technocrats that worry me. The ones that talk conservative but, once in office, are perfectly happy to administer the socialist regime the left-wingers left him with. Many of them, like Riordan, are quite competent. But they try to make the existing structure work better - they never try to change it! Riordan might not have liked the LA employee pension system but I don't recall that he did much about it.I'm terrified that Romney is one of those guys. I don't think we can afford one of them in the White House in 2013 - we're too close to the edge. It'll take a lot for Romney to convince me that he has attitude to rip stuff out instead of tweaking things to make them work better.
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Something IS not right with her. Better this happen now, then in october '12
Posted by: Billy Barty at August 16, 2011 03:22 PM (eXQfZ)
Exactly.
Posted by: dogfish calling out Ace at August 16, 2011 03:22 PM (N2yhW)
Posted by: steevy at August 16, 2011 03:23 PM (xs+LA)
Posted by: LGoPs at August 16, 2011 03:23 PM (lHn6+)
If I had the choice: USNA or Harvard? I would take Annapolis in a heartbeat. It is a better school! But then, I am biased. I would choose a school at which there were a few patriots.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 16, 2011 03:23 PM (LH6ir)
We had this discussion about a year or so ago. Apparently, the honors Obama received when he graduated from Harvard were conferred on something like 50+% of his graduating class that year.
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at August 16, 2011 03:24 PM (bjRNS)
Posted by: blaster at August 16, 2011 03:25 PM (Fw2Gg)
Again, ObamaCare will need to be thrown out completely. If it's not, the United States will have something that is always being analyzed, tweaked, adjusted, corrected, studied some more and tweaked again. The Democrats didn't achieve their greatest wet dream to have it ripped away. Conservatives will have to scrap it...
Or wait until the system collapses. When is that again at the present rate?
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at August 16, 2011 03:25 PM (GKQDR)
Posted by: blaster at August 16, 2011 03:27 PM (Fw2Gg)
I voted for Obama pretty much for the same reasons that Mayor Riordan voted for Obama.
In good conscience I couldn't vote for a guy who risked his life as a Navy officer and spent the better part of a decade getting tortured in a prison cell and then spent 30 years in Congress over a guy who finished No. 1 at Harvard or something and then, you know, would be the first black president who could unite the country and make the rest of the world like us again and make magic unicorns deliver free money and candy to everyone.
Posted by: Half Senile Rube with a Guilt Complex at August 16, 2011 03:27 PM (f8XyF)
Look, peasant, you need to get this through your skull: WE. ARE. MUCH. MUCH. SMARTER. THAN. YOU. Socialism is the future. We control everything, and we will give you that which you earn from us. Nothing more.
Shut up, pay your taxes, and let the smart people run things. Don't much feel like it? Well, there's a SWAT team in your future, then.
This subject is now closed.
Posted by: Your Betters in both parties at August 16, 2011 03:28 PM (xy9wk)
The you don't have to worry about whether they are technocrats or not.
Posted by: Vic at August 16, 2011 03:28 PM (M9Ie6)
But, of course, Riordan also went to law school.
Wussmanities, social promotion "sciences",...there is this thing called "math" people. Remember? You flunked it in high school.
Here's the deal, if you can type it in Microsoft Word without using the equation editor, it's trivial. If even the equation editor is too much trouble, then it's a serious subject.
I'm sick and tired of being told that smart people are the ones who think classes that involve "discussions" are serious.
Posted by: AmishDude at August 16, 2011 03:28 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at August 16, 2011 03:28 PM (1+CnU)
Posted by: steevy at August 16, 2011 03:29 PM (xs+LA)
A while back and late one night we realized on this blog togethter that the hatred of the military (or, at a minimum the disrespect and disgust for) started sometime during the Korean war. Notice that was the first time we were fighting communists. The disparagement of the military is one of the things the communists do to weaken us.
So, when these techocrats absorb that lefty (communist) bent for elitist anti-military snobbery they are doing exactly what their overlords want.
Posted by: dagny at August 16, 2011 03:29 PM (nBOrb)
Posted by: Comrade Arthur at August 16, 2011 03:30 PM (fjpxd)
Obama was at the top of his class at Harvard.
Even if that were true (and it's not), it should be noted that cream isn't the only thing that rises to the top.
Posted by: OCBill at August 16, 2011 03:31 PM (YJvVE)
Posted by: D. Hopper Badger at August 16, 2011 03:33 PM (kBWjM)
Romney would be better than King Barry. That's all you can say for him.
Posted by: al-Cicero, Tea Party Jihadist at August 16, 2011 03:33 PM (QKKT0)
Posted by: cranky-d at August 16, 2011 03:34 PM (iIOIO)
He got the second-highest one which is not all that elite (top third?).
This assumes, of course, that he didn't get a lot of freebie A's in Y2 and Y3.
Posted by: AmishDude at August 16, 2011 03:34 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: SFGoth at August 16, 2011 03:35 PM (dZ756)
I think Perry could ruin it for our chances too.
I think the dream ticket is Ryan/Rubio. Sure, we can wait- but why?
Posted by: Lemon Kitten at August 16, 2011 03:35 PM (0fzsA)
CNN reporting that Barky says he's "going to go easy on Perry since he just entered the race."
*seething rage*
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 16, 2011 03:36 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at August 16, 2011 07:24 PM (bjRNS)
Harvard is Lake Wobegon writ large. Every child is above average.
Posted by: al-Cicero, Tea Party Jihadist at August 16, 2011 03:36 PM (QKKT0)
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 16, 2011 03:36 PM (jx2j9)
Custer was going to go easy on the Indians too.
Posted by: al-Cicero, Tea Party Jihadist at August 16, 2011 03:37 PM (QKKT0)
That's all you need to say. Also he's not a knuckledragging Texan. So vote Romney and don't scare the independents!
Posted by: BeffJ. at August 16, 2011 03:37 PM (sOXQX)
Posted by: steevy at August 16, 2011 03:38 PM (xs+LA)
Even Clinton was clever enough to change sides when necessary and do the right thing.
Captain Wonderful just doubles down on dumb.
We need somebody who'll take things by the horns and do the ugly, but as I've said before, I'd vote for a fucking goldfish in a heartbeat over Barky Oclusterfuck.
Posted by: Clutch Cargo at August 16, 2011 03:38 PM (p+mzQ)
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 16, 2011 03:38 PM (jx2j9)
What does this have to do with my affirmative action pass?
It's still good right?
Posted by: Barry at August 16, 2011 03:40 PM (9pSqS)
Posted by: D. Hopper Badger at August 16, 2011 07:33 PM (kBWjM)
Actually, my point is that I'm a third-rate mathematician, but the least of us is better than the greatest of them. And even if I were a great mathematician, an elite, a true once-in-a-generation genius, I'm not smarter than the market. Nobody is. It's the information problem. You can't just throw great minds at a problem and expect to solve it. Most often, you'll just make it worse.
On top of that, the minds you are likely to get aren't great, but are stuttering clusterfucks of miserable failures.
I really can't solve any problems here on a text blog. It's hard enough to put an epsilon in here.
Posted by: AmishDude at August 16, 2011 03:40 PM (T0NGe)
And that's the problem. Presidency by opinion poll isn't going to solve difficult problems like runaway entitlement spending.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at August 16, 2011 03:42 PM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 16, 2011 03:42 PM (jx2j9)
Something IS not right with her. Better this happen now, then in october '12
10-4 that, but I'd do her.
Posted by: Billy Bob, the guy who drinks in SC at August 16, 2011 03:42 PM (9pSqS)
Posted by: sifty at August 16, 2011 03:43 PM (ECjvn)
Posted by: standfast24 at August 16, 2011 03:44 PM (s4wkw)
I think Perry could ruin it for our chances too.
I think the dream ticket is Ryan/Rubio. Sure, we can wait- but why?
Posted by: Lemon Kitten at August 16, 2011 07:35 PM (0fzsA)
Yeah, just heard that Ryan is exploring it. This is moving way too fast.
Posted by: ErikW at August 16, 2011 03:45 PM (RIEcm)
Posted by: Clutch Cargo at August 16, 2011 07:38 PM (p+mzQ)
I have a kitteh named Spanky you can vote for. She's clean, meows articulately, and has no trace of any sort of dialect.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 16, 2011 03:45 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: sonnyspats channeling his English mother at August 16, 2011 03:45 PM (I/MzF)
Posted by: Da Public at August 16, 2011 03:46 PM (xs+LA)
@18: "there is this thing called "math" people. Remember? You flunked it in high school."
Yeah, and all the people who really excelled in it? They came up with shit like mortgage-backed securities and credit-default swaps and, you know, totally destroyed the world economy. They flunked reality.
Who could forget math whiz Bob McNamara's brilliant handling of the whole Vietnam thing? Or the MENSA candidates who sorta failed to consider that freezing temperatures might just might, mind you, make rubber O-rings a little less effective than normal. Tell them Zombie Christa McAuliffe says hi. How about the ones who put the wrong lens into the Hubble telescope? The guys who forgot that there was a difference between metric and standard measurements and thereby converted a Mars lander into a Mars lawn dart?
Posted by: Us lowly folks who aren't mathematicians at August 16, 2011 03:46 PM (xy9wk)
Posted by: Pecos Bill at August 16, 2011 03:47 PM (j84s0)
I'm terrified that Romney is one of those guys. I don't think we can afford one of them in the White House in 2013 - we're too close to the edge. It'll take a lot for Romney to convince me that he has attitude to rip stuff out instead of tweaking things to make them work better.
Romney's "Waivers for everybody!" plan just screams this to me. Even with his claim of how he will repeal Obamacare I don't buy it, because his first statement is about the waivers always. Because once the waivers are issued it will allow him and others time to say how Obamacare isn't all that bad and they just need to make a few alterations to it in order for it to function well.
I want a candidate to say "I want Congress to have a bill on my desk on Day 1 that is for the repeal of Obamacare and I will veto everything else until that is there."
Posted by: buzzion at August 16, 2011 03:47 PM (GULKT)
On write-ups I used to do I occasionally had to do some calculations and imbed them in a document. I found it was much easier to use Math-Cad to do the calc and then paste it in a graphic block.
The Math stuff in Word Perfect and MS Word has always been shit.
Posted by: Vic at August 16, 2011 03:47 PM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 16, 2011 03:48 PM (jx2j9)
We're talking about people 50+ years old- we should be a hell of a lot more concerned about what they've done in the past 10 years rather than what they spent 4-6 years doing 30+ fucking years ago.
Everybody who went to college knew at least one complete imbecile who got good grades.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at August 16, 2011 03:48 PM (SY2Kh)
I want Perry to do a massive verbal takedown of the socialist fuck Obama after that patronizing "I'll go easy on him" remark.
Fuck you Obama.
Posted by: Dave at August 16, 2011 03:49 PM (HPcQF)
Posted by: Andy at August 16, 2011 03:49 PM (veZ9n)
Question: What do you call someone who finished at the bottom of his class at the Naval Academy?
Bonus question: What do you call someone who finished at the top of his class at Harvard?
Posted by: FireHorse at August 16, 2011 03:49 PM (gTGz3)
I'm terrified that Perry is one of those guys. Aggie or not. Yes, I know I am in the minority here. I just get the slick willie feeling about him right now.
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at August 16, 2011 03:49 PM (4nfy2)
If one looks at this administration it's got ivy growing out of every bodily orifice.
It's disgusting, and I'd like to think this country would outgrow the need to kowtow to supposed intellectual superiority.
Posted by: JEM at August 16, 2011 03:49 PM (o+SC1)
Posted by: Vic at August 16, 2011 03:50 PM (M9Ie6)
Bonus question: What do you call someone who finished at the top of his class at Harvard?
Posted by: FireHorse at August 16, 2011 07:49 PM (gTGz3)
Bob?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 16, 2011 03:50 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Da Public at August 16, 2011 03:51 PM (xs+LA)
Posted by: Comrade Arthur at August 16, 2011 03:51 PM (fjpxd)
All things being equal, having gotten good grades in college is probably desireable, but not by much.
Nope. Since that's the left's standard for success, I want to hold them to it in this case.
Show me the fucking grades Barky.
(However, I agree with you completely)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 16, 2011 03:51 PM (HUZDZ)
Posted by: sonnyspats at August 16, 2011 03:52 PM (I/MzF)
Posted by: Al Gore Lives In Ricks Head Rent Free at August 16, 2011 03:52 PM (EL+OC)
Question: What do you call someone who finished at the bottom of his class at the Naval Academy?
Sir
Bonus question: What do you call someone who finished at the top of his class at Harvard?
Posted by: FireHorse at August 16, 2011 07:49 PM (gTGz3)
Dumbfuck
Posted by: buzzion at August 16, 2011 03:53 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: Da Public at August 16, 2011 07:51 PM (xs+LA)
He accomplished that much?
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 16, 2011 03:53 PM (jx2j9)
Posted by: Comrade Arthur at August 16, 2011 03:53 PM (fjpxd)
Sort of hard for a scattering of molecules in the upper atmosphere to go zombie.
Posted by: The Dungeon Master at August 16, 2011 03:54 PM (9CM5J)
I want a candidate to say "I want to Congress to have a repeal bill waiting for me that I can sign while delivering my speech after taking the Oath of Office."
Didn't we have that, except for Gitmo?
Really, I'm glad he didn't shut that down. I guess a SCOAMF is a good thing sometimes.
Posted by: FireHorse at August 16, 2011 03:54 PM (gTGz3)
@21: "Notice that was the first time we were fighting communists."
Uh, US soldiers fought in Russia against the Communists during the Russian Revolution. It was called the Polar Bear Expedition.
Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at August 16, 2011 03:54 PM (xy9wk)
I'm hoping Perry's jump into the fray will get us some more detailed plans by the candidates. If Romney was the savior of the Salt Lake City Olympics, let's see a plan - detailed. If Perry is the architect of Texas's jobs creation "miracle", let's see a nationwide plan from him as well. I'm having some arguments with libtards on lefty blogs that Obama is blowing smoke up their asses about having a plan for job creation (if he does, I bet it looks like an FDR make work plan!). He's never showed a detailed plan for anything yet, so let's push him on that.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 16, 2011 03:54 PM (UTq/I)
Posted by: steevy at August 16, 2011 03:54 PM (xs+LA)
I think Perry could ruin it for our chances too.
I think the dream ticket is Ryan/Rubio. Sure, we can wait- but why?
Trick question- name the last President who was elected out of the House of Representatives in the last 120 years.
I like Ryan a lot, but he's too young, too inexperienced, only a House rep, and would have to spend a lot of time defending the Ryan Plan to independents. He has a lot of potential, but he's not ready to beat an incumbent yet.Posted by: Hollowpoint at August 16, 2011 03:55 PM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at August 16, 2011 03:55 PM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: LGoPs at August 16, 2011 07:25 PM (lHn6+)
Ya got that, but as long as it ain't all at the same time we're good
Posted by: ontherocks at August 16, 2011 03:56 PM (HBqDo)
Posted by: Greg at August 16, 2011 03:56 PM (geVJ9)
Question: What do you call someone who finished at the bottom of his class at the Naval Academy?
Sir. And what are you doing out on deck? Get your ass back in the J.O. Jungle.
Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at August 16, 2011 03:56 PM (9CM5J)
Posted by: steevy at August 16, 2011 03:56 PM (xs+LA)
@86
Arguably one of the most successful politicians in the entire country over the last couple of decades, and you think Perry could ruin our chances?
Funny stuff right there.
Posted by: Dave at August 16, 2011 03:56 PM (HPcQF)
Question: What do you call someone who finished at the bottom of his class at the Naval Academy?
Bonus question: What do you call someone who finished at the top of his class at Harvard?
Sir and Ma'am? I'm not really sure about that second one.
Posted by: Methos at August 16, 2011 03:57 PM (sOXQX)
Posted by: steevy at August 16, 2011 03:57 PM (xs+LA)
I refer you to the Eberron Campaign Guide, and the "Living Spell" entry.
I denounce myself.
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at August 16, 2011 03:57 PM (bjRNS)
Mitt is an administrator, not a leader. Should a good Tea Party President ever take office, Mitt would make a swell Treasury Secretary in such an administration. But leadership? Not seeing it.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at August 16, 2011 03:57 PM (w7K7d)
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And that's the problem. Presidency by opinion poll isn't going to solve difficult problems like runaway entitlement spending.
And that's why we have to work like fuck to get a bad-ass motherfucker in who's going to do the right thing.
The media is going to try to give us Mitt or even worse and (my prediction) Ronulan (he's such a common sense guy!), we can't let another McLame happen again. But, if that's what happens I still vote the SOB in office and then hold his greasy feet to the fire.
I already live in CA, and I'm tired of this stick up my ass.
And Jane D'oh, no offense but I'm not a cat person!
Posted by: Clutch Cargo at August 16, 2011 03:58 PM (p+mzQ)
Posted by: General Howard O. Consensus at August 16, 2011 03:58 PM (lpWVn)
Posted by: The Guy Who Brings Up RAWN PAWL!!!1! at August 16, 2011 03:59 PM (oskbt)
He pretty much saved LA from economic collapse IIRC, but was treated badly by the media and liberal douchebags called him a fascist.
But now he's a douchebag. Nice. How somebody like him, a businessman and somebody you know understands that Obama is fucking up the economy could be saying shit like that.. well, the cult of personality is strong with the stuttering clusterfuck
It also goes to show that the elites just want to be elites. Doesn't matter how bad things get for everyone else, he'll always be elite.
Beware of professional republicans. Bush was one, Mccain and his traitor advisor Nicole Wallace he put in charge of Palin definitely is.. How she could ever get a job again is a question to ponder. If she shows up on a campaign (has she?), THAT person should be exposed. Hannity loves her. That makes me think Hannity is a professional repuke. I worry Romney is one too.
Nice post
Posted by: Billy Barty at August 16, 2011 03:59 PM (eXQfZ)
I'm not really sure about that second one.
All you really know (and I'm making a kind assumption here) is that he's good in school.
Posted by: FireHorse at August 16, 2011 03:59 PM (gTGz3)
I mean, Dept. of Jobs, really? That'll go over like a lead balloon with the indies.
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at August 16, 2011 04:00 PM (4nfy2)
Posted by: KG at August 16, 2011 04:01 PM (LD21B)
not. Yes, I know I am in the minority here. I just get the slick willie
feeling about him right now.
You should be.
He's a politician through and through.
But, if we vote for a politician we have to get the one that will do the largest percent of what we hope for. Guaranteed he's going to do slimy, greasy things.
It's only if he thinks he can get away with it.
Posted by: Clutch Cargo at August 16, 2011 04:01 PM (p+mzQ)
@81: "Sort of hard for a scattering of molecules in the upper atmosphere to go zombie."
The crew compartment survived the explosion intact. They were very likely alive - albeit possibly unconscious - until they hit the water.
Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at August 16, 2011 04:02 PM (xy9wk)
The Ivy League is great for producing deep thinkers, and those magnificent minds belong in government pushing a broom, and only in government pushing a broom..
FIFY
Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 16, 2011 04:02 PM (HUZDZ)
Posted by: FireHorse at August 16, 2011 04:02 PM (gTGz3)
I presume this is sarcasm.
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at August 16, 2011 04:02 PM (bjRNS)
@21: "Notice that was the first time we were fighting communists."
Uh, US soldiers fought in Russia against the Communists during the Russian Revolution. It was called the Polar Bear Expedition.
Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at August 16, 2011 07:54 PM (xy9wk)
Yeah I know. I was going to put some words in that showed that I knew about that and I knew that there were minor events where we were fighting communists, rather I mean that we started deparaging the military when we started fighting communism.
Different point entirely.
Posted by: dagny at August 16, 2011 04:03 PM (nBOrb)
Posted by: mpfs, TPT, O is SCFOAMF at August 16, 2011 04:03 PM (2rBjm)
Posted by: Comrade Arthur
Meh, ok for a Commie RINO.
The next candidate needs to demand that Congress have the bill to repeal printed in water-reactive paper and pasted to the Oval Office's urinal for his signature 3 seconds after the results are in.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 16, 2011 04:04 PM (DEcmU)
Law and Humanities is where the suburban white kids land, the ones whose people always told them how fucking intelligent they were.
The universities understand they are inferior degrees, or they wouldn't have changed all the names to include 'Science' at the end.
Makes them feel more intelligent.
brb , getting a Masters in Mesothelioma Studies.
Posted by: Draco the Athenian at August 16, 2011 04:04 PM (le5qc)
The you don't have to worry about whether they are technocrats or not.
Posted by: Vic at August 16, 2011 07:28 PM (M9Ie6)
But to force it, you need the right people in it. People who adhere to the Constitution.
Posted by: KG at August 16, 2011 04:05 PM (LD21B)
Posted by: nevergiveup at August 16, 2011 04:05 PM (i6RpT)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 16, 2011 04:06 PM (uhAkr)
Posted by: blaster at August 16, 2011 04:08 PM (Fw2Gg)
I think Perry could ruin it for our chances too.
I think the dream ticket is Ryan/Rubio. Sure, we can wait- but why?
Posted by: Lemon Kitten at August 16, 2011 07:35 PM (0fzsA)
Explain?
Posted by: KG at August 16, 2011 04:08 PM (LD21B)
"Michell Bachmann really is a flake. Did you just hear about her starting a rally claiming today was Elvis' birthday? What a fucking idiot. Sorry, its the truth.
Something IS not right with her. Better this happen now, then in october '12"
Uh, today was Elvis' *death* day.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at August 16, 2011 04:08 PM (w7K7d)
Posted by: jewells45, tea party terrorist at August 16, 2011 04:09 PM (Z71Vg)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 16, 2011 08:04 PM (DEcmU)
Pfft, double secret probation commie RINO.
The next candidate needs to have a bill to repeal 75% of the laws ever passed in alphabetical order and cross-referenced by liberty theft.
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at August 16, 2011 04:09 PM (4nfy2)
My I supersize that order?
Posted by: Draco the Athenian at August 16, 2011 04:09 PM (le5qc)
Best we can hope for is some minor restraint of the big bad beast. There will be no dramatic changes. We don't have the stomach for it.
We have the stomach for it.
DC lobbyists do not.
You're right, this is a multi-headed beast. I'm living inside of it right now it won't die easily.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 16, 2011 04:09 PM (HUZDZ)
Posted by: Curmudgeon at August 16, 2011 04:10 PM (w7K7d)
Mr. President?
Posted by: Abdominal Snowman at August 16, 2011 04:10 PM (qITqt)
You'll be amazed at what people agree to after I give them a very direct prostate massage.
Posted by: Mathematics at August 16, 2011 04:10 PM (uhAkr)
Mr. President?
Barky finished top of his class? Prove it.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 16, 2011 04:11 PM (UOM48)
I worked in the 2002 Olympics. I know how Romney came in and cleaned it up. He didn't make any compromises, he cleaned house, and left the Olympics in the black for the first time ever for an Olympics.
Romney is a good man! I'm sick of all the code words that are used to put him down. Isn't it terrible that he is an intelligent business man who knows how to turn companies around and I know he would do it with the economy. He's been a success and we need people who are, not the idiot in the white house who has never run anything, except our economy into the ground!
Posted by: Goldi at August 16, 2011 04:11 PM (rsOPT)
I think he left LA a little better off than he found it.
How? By painting it red and putting a sign at the entrance that reads "HELL"?
Posted by: Stranger at August 16, 2011 04:11 PM (o3ppL)
"Your honor."
Posted by: Abdominal Snowman at August 16, 2011 04:11 PM (qITqt)
Posted by: Abdominal Snowman at August 16, 2011 04:12 PM (qITqt)
Isn't it terrible that he is an intelligent business man who knows how to turn companies around and I know he would do it with the economy
OK, then he can run the Department of Commerce in a President Ryan administration.
That's about as far as I am willing to go.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 16, 2011 04:13 PM (HUZDZ)
Posted by: nevergiveup at August 16, 2011 04:13 PM (i6RpT)
Posted by: Curmudgeon at August 16, 2011 04:13 PM (w7K7d)
Mr. President?
How do you know? Have you seen any of his grades? Any of his papers? Anything? Nope didn't think so!
Posted by: Goldi at August 16, 2011 04:13 PM (rsOPT)
Posted by: Vic at August 16, 2011 07:47 PM (M9Ie6)
Dunno, never had a problem with the math stuff in word 2007.
Posted by: KG at August 16, 2011 04:13 PM (LD21B)
It's the fuckin Olympics.
Ten days of Spandex and wheat-germ-suckers every four years sandwiched between two parades.
Posted by: sifty at August 16, 2011 04:13 PM (ECjvn)
"Isn't it terrible that he is an intelligent business man who knows how to turn companies around and I know he would do it with the economy
OK, then he can run the Department of Commerce in a President Ryan administration.
That's about as far as I am willing to go."
Pfft, RINO. Make him Treasury Secretary. Commerce needs to be closed down, or merged with Labor and Agriculture.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at August 16, 2011 04:14 PM (w7K7d)
Posted by: FireHorse at August 16, 2011 08:02 PM (gTGz3)
Make it fit my bumper and I'll agree.
Posted by: ErikW at August 16, 2011 04:15 PM (RIEcm)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 16, 2011 04:15 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 16, 2011 04:16 PM (lGFXF)
Posted by: sifty at August 16, 2011 04:16 PM (ECjvn)
Pfft, RINO. Make him Treasury Secretary. Commerce needs to be closed down, or merged with Labor and Agriculture.
Sold.
Although I'd rather just see Commerce, Labor and Ag closed down outright.
I'm pretty sure Monsanto doesn't need any more Ag welfare.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 16, 2011 04:17 PM (HUZDZ)
Ten days of Spandex and wheat-germ-suckers every four years sandwiched between two parades.
Posted by: sifty at August 16, 2011 08:13 PM (ECjvn)
This.
No one gives a shit about the Olympics. The number of presidents who ran an Olympics is precisely zero. Bain Capital too. Mitt made money at Bain Capital. Good for Mitt. Lots of people make money as CEOs. That doesn't distinguish you.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 16, 2011 04:17 PM (uhAkr)
But at least he doesn't have a Southern drawl. Quel horreur!
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 16, 2011 08:16 PM (lGFXF)
this
*spits tobacco juice*
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 16, 2011 04:17 PM (UOM48)
Not when I hit it.
I would not hit that even with the Blade of Olympus; the power of the Gods still isn't sufficient to sterilize all the bugs that undoubtedly have taken up residence on and in her.
Posted by: Liberal gits circa 2000. at August 16, 2011 04:17 PM (c0A3e)
Short arm inspections are on Thursday. Hopefully the rash will be gone by then.
Posted by: sifty at August 16, 2011 04:17 PM (ECjvn)
"Michell Bachmann really is a flake. Did you just hear about her
starting a rally claiming today was Elvis' birthday? What a fucking
idiot. Sorry, its the truth.
Something IS not right with her. Better this happen now, then in october '12"
Uh, today was Elvis' *death* day.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at August 16, 2011 08:08 PM (w7K7d)
Yes, as anyone who loves music of any kind knows. How Bachmann could ever do this is simply mind boggling
Posted by: Billy Barty at August 16, 2011 04:17 PM (eXQfZ)
Posted by: nevergiveup at August 16, 2011 08:05 PM (i6RpT)
Hey, a lot of those mice have won their jump wings. Pretty tough breed, those Bancroft mice.
Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at August 16, 2011 04:18 PM (9CM5J)
Posted by: Assassin6 at August 16, 2011 04:19 PM (TsgEc)
As for Romney... I'll be more impressed with him when I can walk into a Staples and buy a computer MADE IN THE UNITED STATES.
Posted by: Abdominal Snowman at August 16, 2011 04:19 PM (qITqt)
Ahhh....Dick "the Pooter" Harpootlian is ripping into Perry on Fox.
Yes, because America certainly listens whenever anyone named "Harpootlian" speaks.
He really should change his name. It sounds like a foot disease.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 16, 2011 04:19 PM (HUZDZ)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 16, 2011 08:15 PM (UOM4
That jackass is one nasty piece of work.
Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at August 16, 2011 04:19 PM (9CM5J)
I presume this is sarcasm.
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at August 16, 2011 08:02 PM (bjRNS)
lol, I posted that before reading the comments. I thought he wasn't, but Riordan saying it made me go "huh?"
Posted by: KG at August 16, 2011 04:19 PM (LD21B)
I'm terrified that Romney is one of those guys. I don't think we can afford one of them in the White House in 2013 - we're too close to the edge. It'll take a lot for Romney to convince me that he has attitude to rip stuff out instead of tweaking things to make them work better.
You and me both.
Posted by: stuiec at August 16, 2011 04:20 PM (Di3Im)
Posted by: Berserker at August 16, 2011 04:20 PM (FMbng)
Probably true. In which case we're choosing the person who (possibly) gets to put the pieces back together after the Crash. I still think auto-pilot is the best plan for reconstruction (2.0).
Posted by: Methos at August 16, 2011 04:22 PM (sOXQX)
Posted by: nevergiveup at August 16, 2011 04:22 PM (i6RpT)
Elvis died a while ago.
I have uncles and aunt that I can't remember the birthdays or death dates for.
She's a little busy. I get John Wayne's and Elvis' birth and death dates fucked up. Dean Martin's too.
It's not lie she wrote it incorrectly on a cheesy toy button and gave it to a country with several thousand nuclear weapons.
Posted by: sifty at August 16, 2011 04:23 PM (ECjvn)
Posted by: blaster at August 16, 2011 04:23 PM (Fw2Gg)
Posted by: embittered redleg at August 16, 2011 04:24 PM (CuPwN)
How Bachmann could ever do this is simply mind boggling
Posted by: Billy Barty at August 16, 2011 08:17 PM (eXQfZ)
So Billy you're telling the thread you never forgot your wife's birthday? If not you're a fucking genius.
Posted by: Fish the Impaler at August 16, 2011 08:19 PM (Lt/Za)
Ok fair point, but I'd never do a surprise party for an anniversary on her birthday, or whatever. Its nuts.
Posted by: Billy Barty at August 16, 2011 04:24 PM (eXQfZ)
Posted by: Monsters of Men Audible at August 16, 2011 04:25 PM (s40ej)
Posted by: blaster at August 16, 2011 08:23 PM (Fw2Gg)
Sooo....., what are we fighting for? Because we might as well give up if nothing will ever get rolled back.
Posted by: KG at August 16, 2011 04:25 PM (LD21B)
Posted by: DriveBy at August 16, 2011 04:25 PM (C9Vc8)
Posted by: Temper Tantrum at August 16, 2011 04:26 PM (bAL0J)
Hawley Carp, you guys are such Eeyores. Leviathan wasn't built in a day, and you're not going to tear it down in a day.
Just stopping the forward momentum is a victory, right now.
(For the classically inclined: we're looking for our Fabius right now. Scipio comes later.)
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at August 16, 2011 04:28 PM (bjRNS)
Pfft, double secret probation commie RINO.
The
next candidate needs to have a bill to repeal 75% of the laws ever
passed in alphabetical order and cross-referenced by liberty theft. Posted by: Guy Fawkes
I guess I shouldn't expect more from Alinsky altar boys.
If you were really serious you'd ask that the next candidate demand payment with interestfrom all of the countries protected by our nuclear umbrella and use the money to create a time machine for the sole purpose of sending black ops back in time with the mission to terminate Stalin, Hitler, and Fatty Arbuckle. Why Fatty Arbuckle, you ask? Because the next candidate needs to project that unpredictable, slightly crazed nature that only the truly dangerous possess.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 16, 2011 04:30 PM (DEcmU)
Posted by: blaster at August 16, 2011 04:30 PM (Fw2Gg)
Posted by: Temper Tantrum at August 16, 2011 08:26 PM (bAL0J)
That's a bit of a stretch. After all, we can't say how many are included in your "us". Better than you? Most assuredly, but don't feel bad about it.
Posted by: T. Bradley Worthington IV at August 16, 2011 04:31 PM (D+phB)
@148: "It's the fuckin Olympics.
Ten days of Spandex and wheat-germ-suckers every four years sandwiched between two parades."
Heh, that first sentence is really, really accurate. Whole lotta sex goin' on - at least in the athlete village. I used to swim with some guys who made it to the Olympics. They enjoyed it immensely. Also met a guy who was part of the security organization for the Salt Lake games - he was pretty well floored by all of the sex. To borrow from American Dad, those guys were pulling more tail than a special ed kid at a petting zoo.
Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at August 16, 2011 04:31 PM (xy9wk)
Really? You're going to hold Methuselah's undergrad class standing against him? Not take into account anything he did over decades of service in the Navy and, in the US Senate?
Instead, without actually knowing Obama's class rank, you go with him? So it's merley an upper half lower half thing between college transcripts? Nothing else matters? Ok so he was close to last; but he did graduate from a military institution.
This is just elitism that we are railing against rearing its head. Ace accuses us about being biased against qualifications. I say we are biased against the baggage those qualifications usually carry. Elitist progressivism in both parties, happy to run the life of the masses.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at August 16, 2011 04:31 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Osama bin Truck Monkey, TEArrorist at August 16, 2011 04:31 PM (jucos)
Posted by: Chris at August 16, 2011 04:32 PM (ULA0k)
True. The better reason to dislike Romney is that he's the type that thinks the government should "do something". That's the reason why I don't want anything to do with him.
(I'll still vote for him over Obama.)
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at August 16, 2011 04:33 PM (bjRNS)
@158: "No one gives a shit about the Olympics."
Dude, I get to be America's houseguest for two weeks every four years precisely because of the Olympics!
*runs along boards*
(Still one of my best memories from childhood)
Posted by: Mike Eruzione at August 16, 2011 04:34 PM (xy9wk)
I think the congress is being used right now as our Fabius Maximus. The Presidency is our Scipio. We must crush them as soon as we get the chance, because like in war, we may not get this opportunity again. This county could go full retard after a Republican presidency. Its now or never
Posted by: Billy Barty at August 16, 2011 04:34 PM (eXQfZ)
Posted by: blaster at August 16, 2011 04:34 PM (Fw2Gg)
Us, amongst others, includes anyone who believes mankind should be free. That demonstrates an irreparable lack of understanding that implies a mental impediment to be pitied. Most assuredly they feel smugly superior to such a base belief about humanity. As the enlightened Buddha's looking down on the struggling masses. Those whom hold such beliefs turn away from the true light that THEY the smart ones *should* be in charge. Oh yes, they are far superior to those rubes.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at August 16, 2011 04:36 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: T. Bradley Worthington IV at August 16, 2011 04:37 PM (D+phB)
Posted by: nevergiveup at August 16, 2011 04:38 PM (i6RpT)
Wasn't Reagan going to get rid of the EPA and Department of Education? If he couldn't touch government largesse you can pretty well bet that Mittens or the Rickster won't dare roll anything back.
Posted by: Osama bin Truck Monkey, TEArrorist at August 16, 2011 04:38 PM (jucos)
@187: "Leviathan wasn't built in a day, and you're not going to tear it down in a day."
I respectfully disagree.
Posted by: Vlad Tepes, hosting a banquet for the boyars at August 16, 2011 04:39 PM (xy9wk)
Posted by: BuddyPC at August 16, 2011 04:40 PM (N/Bgb)
Posted by: blaster at August 16, 2011 08:30 PM (Fw2Gg)
Yea ok, but simply stopping the leviathan isn't a good long term strategy. I absolutely agree with that other poster whose name I can't spell that dismantling the leviathan is a long term process. But we gotta start somewhere, then we have you saying that's never gonna happen, hence my question.
Posted by: KG at August 16, 2011 04:41 PM (LD21B)
Posted by: mj hawkeye at August 16, 2011 04:43 PM (q/4al)
Us, amongst others, includes anyone who believes mankind should be free. That demonstrates an irreparable lack of understanding that implies a mental impediment to be pitied. Most assuredly they feel smugly superior to such a base belief about humanity. As the enlightened Buddha's looking down on the struggling masses. Those whom hold such beliefs turn away from the true light that THEY the smart ones *should* be in charge. Oh yes, they are far superior to those rubes.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at August 16, 2011 08:36 PM (0q2P7)
Smashing! Mike...the Moose, yes? How quaint. We do agree on some issues after all, so let's go forward in a spirit of partnership. What we agree upon is your desire to be free. We want you to be free. You're not wrong for wanting to be free, only it is possible that you're misunderstanding what the word really means in today's context. We can't fault you for that; rather, we'll convince you by bringing about the kind of societal order that you can understand and grow to love. As for your sarcasm, please see my previous sentence. Once we have things properly arranged, your prosperity and happiness will be so well-arranged that you will have no reason for complaint. The yoke will be light, and your brood well cared for.
Posted by: T. Bradley Worthington IV at August 16, 2011 04:44 PM (D+phB)
@187: "Leviathan wasn't built in a day, and you're not going to tear it down in a day."
I respectfully disagree.
Posted by: Vlad Tepes, hosting a banquet for the boyars at August 16, 2011 08:39 PM (xy9wk)
So do I
Posted by: Caracalla, hosting a nice wedding party for the Parthians at August 16, 2011 04:48 PM (eXQfZ)
So do I
Posted by: Caracalla, hosting a nice wedding party for the Parthians at August 16, 2011 08:48 PM (eXQfZ)
Seconded.
Posted by: George R.R. Martin's Red Wedding at August 16, 2011 04:49 PM (D+phB)
Does it come in black? I'll buy 10. White don't look good when you're well over 6 tall and 280#. Trust me
Posted by: Caracalla, hosting a nice wedding party for the Parthians at August 16, 2011 04:57 PM (eXQfZ)
Beware the competent Technocrats
-----------------------
Hey! What did we ever do to you?
Signed,
Heinrich Himmler, Reinhard Heydrich, Adolf Eichmann, Ernst Kaltenbrunner, Lavrenty Beria, Felix Dzerzhinsky, Erich Mielke, Alger Hiss, Lauchlin Currie, Harry Dexter White, Robert Hanssen, Aldrich Ames, Greg Silvermaster, Laurence Duggan, Michael Whitney Straight, Julian Wadleigh
Posted by: An unmarked envelope with pictures of your family and a note at August 16, 2011 04:58 PM (xy9wk)
@206: "U.S. Grant was a failure student but the son of a bitch got the job done. So much for a freakin' Harvard degree."
We respectfully disagree.
Posted by: A lot of Union war dead who aren't happy about it at August 16, 2011 05:00 PM (xy9wk)
Oh god don't go there. "terrified" sounds like something a Kossite would say. Just say you're concerned. Be cool.
Posted by: jeanne at August 16, 2011 05:03 PM (QnxMg)
Posted by: OCBill at August 16, 2011 05:04 PM (YJvVE)
Posted by: Daniel at August 16, 2011 05:07 PM (D4eQr)
Posted by: Comrade Arthur at August 16, 2011 05:13 PM (fjpxd)
Posted by: troyriser at August 16, 2011 05:38 PM (YCeSE)
Top of his class at Havard. Was he the only one in his class?
He is so stupid that he visited all 57 states.
Posted by: Molon Labe at August 16, 2011 05:45 PM (t57Qv)
Wrong. There were bodies recovered and efforts made to determine duration of survival. It was noted that three of the emergency air feeds were activated but the long time before recovery made it impossible to draw any solid conclusions.
http://tinyurl.com/6b2r47n
Posted by: epobirs at August 16, 2011 06:06 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: mike at August 16, 2011 06:16 PM (/cyI7)
You know Romney said he would exempt all 50 states (the other 7 can do what they want) from obamao's obamacare. And I believe him! He's not my first choice, but if he gets the nomination, I'll crawl over glass to vote for him!
Posted by: Goldi at August 16, 2011 06:51 PM (rsOPT)
It's kind of the opposite of Ted Baxter. Everyone who knew him knew he was a dullard at best but he had the serious demeanor down pat and that made his career.
Every time I look at Michelle Bachmann I pictured Bob Geldof in 'The Wall' after he's shaved off his eyebrows. It isn't fair and ha no bearing on the candidate or her policies but such is political doom: taking a bad picture.
Posted by: epobirs at August 16, 2011 07:07 PM (kcfmt)
"I'm terrified that Romney is one of those guys. I don't think we can afford one of them in the White House in 2013 - we're too close to the edge. It'll take a lot for Romney to convince me that he has attitude to rip stuff out instead of tweaking things to make them work better."
Thank you for putting into words what I'm feeling. But I'm feeling that way about perry and palin too. What happened I think is that even if you didn't vote for obama he's the president and as such once he was elected you figured that 52% of the people saw something so you would make the best of it and support him and his office. Essentially you agreed to trust in his ability to run the country. So, now months later, when we have obamacare and are broke, now you begin to really wonder how the 52% could have been so wrong. Now you are afraid to trust in anyone. If this person could have been so convincing and so charismatic and then can come in and virtually do the polar opposite of what he promised he would do, then how can you trust anyone? The trust issue will be exploited by BO and his minions, they've already started with the perry/bachman dominion article in the daily beast. People are starting to quietly question if they are "dangerously religious" and if maybe romney, though not the best candidate, might be more predictable. Makes you wonder what they have on romney that they can roll out at the appropriate time and cause chaos like a week before the election.I know it's not the republican candidates' baggage but it's the elephant in the room and the republican candidate is going to have to work twice as hard to get people to trust him/her and to then go out there and vote him or her in instead of saying "well, BO is the devil we know, if we vote in a republican controlled senate, how much damage can he do for another 4 years, let's not elect a republican version of him". I haven't been seeing this as a trust issue until this weekend where I had an opportunity to interact with republicans and conservatives and not my same old lib/dem friends.
Posted by: curious at August 16, 2011 07:33 PM (k1rwm)
For anyone who thinks 4 more years of obama might not be that bad, especially if he has a conservative congress - just think of his supreme court picks and he might end up with 1 or 2 more!
That should scare anyone! It surely will have a greater effect on this country for years to come, worse than this poseur in office!
So if it's Perry, Romney, Bachmann or Rubio (wish) we have to get behind them.
Ron Paul, I'm sure is a good man, but he doesn't care if Iran has the bomb, thinks it's none of our business if Israel is destroyed - "not our problem."
Just wow!
Posted by: Goldi at August 17, 2011 05:59 AM (rsOPT)
Article really hits the nail on the head. We really do have a far left party, and a left of center party with nothing on the right.
As for colleges and smarts-- I've worked around a lot of college grads including many ivy league grads. I've also worked with folks with no degree who were far smarter than any college grad. A lot of it comes down to opportunity either due to financial circumstances and connections for admission to particular schools or event attendance at all.
For all his supposed smarts, Barak Obama has been arguing with reality for a long time and reality is about to win.
Posted by: grayswindir at August 17, 2011 07:33 AM (xGZ+b)
Posted by: ErnstBlofeld at August 17, 2011 07:56 AM (5ZuW6)
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