1

Yup the system is corrupt.

The question is is the present administration more or less corrupt than the system.

2 It is not the system,it is the players, SCOAMF

3
This is what the Tea Party and the Occupy squatters have in common. I guess.

4 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

5 The system really is very corrupt, isn't it?

Burn it all down.

6 http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1111/69276.html

Gingrich's Immigration plan. Each point is sequential, meaning they will be delayed until the previous step is done. Check #1

7
Ace, you posted about that $150M deal a couple of years ago.

8 >The system really is very corrupt, isn't it?


Corrupt like my bitches.

9 It ain't the system. People (this administration) are corrupt. And Zero and his crab lice are rotten to the core.

10
well, maybe a year and a half ago.

11

Wait.... this from NPR??? Sooo... Note that they kept saying 'Congress', not the DEMS in Congress.... and...

Looks like Pharma is being thrown under the Bus to me...

Remember, you only RENT friends, you cannot BUY them.

12 I've met this guy when I was working (briefly) at a research institution in California that was trying to get on PhRMA's tit.  Big weasel. 

13 They have always been the party of Tammany Hall.

And they always will be.

14 End the corruption! End corporate ownership of our government! Tax the Rich! Free drugs!

Re-Elect Obama!

15 12 I've met this guy when I was working (briefly) at a research institution in California that was trying to get on PhRMA's tit.  Big weasel. 

Posted by: Y-not at November 29, 2011 01:07 PM (5H6zj)

You didn't show him yer boobahs?

16 Every day we hear of some new corrupt scheme and we never here of anyone being charged, much less going to jail.

Why is that?

17 OT:  Ann Coulter got bleeped this morning when she called John McCain a douche bag.  Jeez, I didn't even know it was a secret.

18 9 It ain't the system. People (this administration) are corrupt. And Zero and his crab lice are rotten to the core.

Posted by: maddogg at November 29, 2011 01:06 PM (OlN4e)

/looks at the list of inside Traders in Congress.... from BOTH partys...

Really?

19

I guess what irks all of us is the blatant nature of the corruption. The arrogance of the powered elite in simply deciding to do as they please with the money they steal via the tax laws. Outright payoffs publically visible to anyone who looks, with so little outrage it begs one to shout at the top of their lungs, "ENOUGH!"

When a sufficient number of the folks do this, maybe, just maybe, we can find  way to stop it.

"ENOUGH!"

20 So the SCoaMF wanted to put an end to the revolving door, using Billy as a specific example, then cuts a deal with him once elected.
 
Yeah, I see how that works.

21
re: the Gov Perry live announcement

Exactly what I feared. Lots of platitudes and feel-good generalities. So far.

Waitaminute...

22
Gov Perry: My policy will be to detain and deport every illegal that is apprehended.

23 Posted by: maddogg at November 29, 2011 01:06 PM (OlN4e)

It is the system.  The system started becoming corrupt long ago- because power does, indeed, corrupt, and people are, indeed, greedy.  Insofar as the system relies on people with big enough egos to think they can be elected to national office, it is corrupt.

What previously held that corruption in check was that we did not have nigh-universal suffrage, and the States still had considerable power to hold the federal government accountable.  When those two things changed, the corruption became endemic- it metastasized.  Now the whole thing is corrupt.

I'm not sure what we do about it besides cut it to the bone and hope we can get all the cancer out.

24 22
Gov Perry: My policy will be to detain and deport every illegal that is apprehended.

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 29, 2011 01:09 PM (sqkOB)

So, being the tender hearted guy he is, he plans to suspend all enforcement?

25 I still don't understand why everyone is upset at me. I like helping out women with poor credit. And I don't ask for anything in return, definitely not anything remotely sexual. Sure, they all give me those wonderful private spot mouth hugs that ladies are so good at with their pretty little mouths and soft feminine lips. But since when are private mouth hugs a bad thing?

How can anything sexual happen when she keep her clothes on the whole time? That doesn't make any sense. A man can't lie with a woman when he's standing the whole time. Hell, I never even took off my hat.

26

When a sufficient number of the folks do this, maybe, just maybe, we can find way to stop it.

"ENOUGH!"

Posted by: lazy american fool/clown clinging bitterly to my guns at November 29, 2011 01:08 PM (wN82N)

Note that the MSM is complicit by not talking about this stuff... they are too worried about loosing 'access' to their pet insiders.

The Press was given special priveleges in the Constitution, so they could WATCH the Government... but the thought was that they would be outsiders, looking in.... not part of the system itself.

27 @21
I think it would be great if he released a plan describing how he'd seal the border in 12 months.  It doesn't have to be more than 10 pages or so, but it should show some specifics and demonstrate his expertise.

I guess I wouldn't expect the plan rolled out in this sort of event, but it should be rolled out this week.

Rick started slow, but was much better at the second part (after Joe's remarks), imo.

28
Gov Perry: No more bailouts. No bailouts for Europe.

29 How can anything sexual happen when she keep her clothes on the whole time? That doesn't make any sense. A man can't lie with a woman when he's standing the whole time. Hell, I never even took off my hat.

Posted by: Herman Cain at November 29, 2011 01:11 PM (QcFbt)

Preach it Brother!

30 Said it before, will say it again. This ain't crony capitalism, it's crony socialism. Much worse because it leads to tyranny.

31 The system works great until your gerrymandered fiefdom disappears. Fucking uppity peasants.

32
Guvnah Perry: Part-time Congress. Cut their pay in half; cut their time in Washington in half.

33 Said it before, will say it again. This ain't crony capitalism, it's crony socialism. Much worse because it leads to tyranny.

Ok, I first read tyranny as tranny. 

34
Texas is 13th largest economy in the country, or in the world???

35 Culture of corruption.

36

/looks at the list of inside Traders in Congress.... from BOTH partys...

Really? Posted by: Romeo13

Don't forget our man Hank.

"Hank Paulson tipped off a select group of Goldman diaspora hedge fund managers about the eventual failure of Fannie and Freddie 7 weeks ahead of this information becoming public knowledge."

It's almost as if large and unobstructed government influences people to do very bad things...

37 The system really is very corrupt, isn't it?

Just a little. And by "a little" I mean "rotten to the fucking core".

The only way to turn it around is to shrink government back to its constitutionally-limited scope.

Like that's going to happen anytime soon or ever.

38 Notice how Rick is rolling now, Sooth?  When he is unfamiliar with the material (ie: small talk about St. Anselm's College) he starts slow, but when he gets into areas where he's passionate, he sounds great.  Very aggressive and determined speaking. 

We have got to get Rick on people's televisions.  I wish the Reagan Library or some place like that would invite him for a major address. 

39
He sounds good.

40

It seems people are calling for sudden and relentless reform.

41 This ain't crony capitalism, it's crony socialism.

There ain't no difference. Both lead to the same result.

_{Kratos? That's your cue.}

42 Apparrently, being the most open administration in history means open to graft and corruption, which works it's way through this administration like maggots through road kill.

43
now it's time for the T 'n A.

44 A Louisiana politician accused of bribery and corruption? Fucking sledgehammers at dawn on The Commons, ace. You will NOT insult the honor of this gentleman from my home state.

45
Q 'n A

/herb cain off

46 Can't hear the question.

NO excuse for that at such a small venue.  His on site people need to do better. 

47 18 to vote Gov Perry, 18.

48 18 to vote Gov Perry, 18.

??? Some of us can't watch the live-stream.

49 This is why I say Obama can be beat easily..  He went on camera saying over and over that he wanted to change the game.. and he was lying through his commie teeth.

50 Paulbot in the audience?

51 Guy asks Perry a 5 minute question and we can't hear it at all.

52
first question is about Israel

I think the questioner is a Ron Paul shithead.

53 Another DemonRat scandle?

I am shocked, shocked I tell you!

54
hahaha, the guvnah told him to fuck off, kinda

55 Paulbot in the audience? ================ The anti-Semite? Naaaaahhhhh.

56 Whenever you have your executive at this sort of event, you should always give him an experienced moderator/emcee. 

Never have your exec acting as the event emcee.  He has too much to handle and will always fumble things like remembering to repeat questions on a Q&A.  I see this all the time and it drives me nuts. 

57 Can't hear the question.

Mic check
Mic check

58 This is why I say Obama can be beat easily.. He went on camera saying over and over that he wanted to change the game.. and he was lying through his commie teeth. Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 29, 2011 01:19 PM (f9c2L) A) Yes b ut he has to be pounded on this over and over and over again and then pounded again. B) everyone who is threatening to sit this election if the Republicans nominate someone not to their liking should get their heads out of their asses and get with the program.

59 hahaha, the guvnah told him to fuck off, kinda

I hope a transcript of this whole thing becomes available somewhere.

60 Is this Perry thing streamed somewhere?  I'm at work.

61 A Louisiana politician accused of bribery and corruption?

Fucking sledgehammers at dawn on The Commons, ace. You will NOT insult the honor of this gentleman from my home state.

Eh? I say he's guilty.

62

When a sufficient number of the folks do this, maybe, just maybe, we can find  way to stop it.

"ENOUGH!"

Which explains in part the high resistance to the Tea Party movement.  They know damn well what this group stands for and why.  Both parties have a vested interest in shutting down any dissent to their shenanigans and corruption.  Yell "racist" enough times to try to shut the TP up - that is why it is so important that people don't give up. 

63 rickperry.org -- front page

click on the start arrow

64 Live stream: http://tinyurl.com/r2tjc

65 www.rickperry.org

66 I don't even know what to say.

67
Is this Perry thing streamed somewhere? 

I'm receiving it telepathically.

68 Billy Tauzin?  Never heard of him!

69
my tinfoil hat gets great reception

70 63, 64, 65

Still can't watch.  Can't stream it at work.

71 Can we mandate that Europe man and equip an Army (minimum 3 Divisions with Air and Logistics Support) capable of deployment to Asia for an interminable engagement as a requirement for being bailed out? If not, I think we need to leave them to their own devices. Shit, aren't they supposed to be so smart and sophisticated? John Kerry tells me so.

72 >>I'm receiving it telepathically.

Funny, I received it through an injection!

73 Thanks!

74

OT - bit.

Preview of coming attacktions........

http://zapit.nu/1jZ

And yes I spelt it that way deliberately.

75 Billy Tauzin?  Never heard of him, either!

76
Allen, the questioner was anti-Israel.

Perry said to him if he feels that way, he might find himself nose-to-nose someday with the governor because the governor stands with Israel.

77 Question about the National Defense Authorization Act -- a way to give POTUS the ability to round up declared terrorists everywhere

78 This would take a media willing to vet Democrats the same as they do Repubs. Alas

79 Perry said to him if he feels that way, he might find himself nose-to-nose someday with the governor because the governor stands with Israel.

Brilliant!

80

@ 66 Seriously, did you have any doubt this would be the outcome?

81 Alrighty... I guess I should go eat lunch before my stomach completely rebels.

82 Perry wants to spend more on human intelligence with our existing infrastructure in place to find terrorists.  Seems to be leaning against additional legislation to expand those powers. 

83 A) Yes b ut he has to be pounded on this over and over and over again and then pounded again.

That.is.Hot!

84

@ 66 Seriously, did you have any doubt this would be the outcome?

 

That the jackwad would be declared insane? No. That that declaration means they will still have a trial, but no jail time can be requested? Yes.

 

WTF?

85 Oh dear God....not being able to hear these ridiculously long questions is annoying!

86 Question about raising debt ceiling and pushing return from Afghanistan past 2014? 

Person may be a nutter -- refers to our military empire. 

Damned Paulbots.

87 Perry against raising debt ceiling.  Doesn't mince words on that.

88

@ 58 Yes but he has to be pounded on this over and over and over again and then pounded again.

I thought that was Reggie's job???????

89
lady asking good questions about Obama's malfeasance and shiftiness

90 28
Gov Perry: No more bailouts. No bailouts for Europe.

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 29, 2011 01:12 PM (sqkOB)

You know what would really get Perry the nomination?

"No bailouts for California."

(He could say "fiscally irresponsible states," but we'll know what he means.)

91

Perry against raising debt ceiling.  Doesn't mince words on that.

 

In the end, you and I may well be the last two people in the boat with him but I'm not bailing until the boat capsizes.

I expect that he will make a turnaround just prior to the primaries.

92 OK, Perry goes on his economic plan... but so far not responding to our "military empire" and how we support that if we reduce debt/spending. 

93 Three in that boat Niedermeyer.

94
Guvnah: Why do we have a department of edu? A dept of energy?

95 Perry answering audience questions much better than debate moderator's.

96 I would love to hear Teh Fred's take on everything. I would bet he'd be a Perry guy.

97

Perry is good in this format, very good.

And I bet the questions are not even staged, previewed or even vetted byhis staff.

98 29 How can anything sexual happen when she keep her clothes on the whole time? That doesn't make any sense. A man can't lie with a woman when he's standing the whole time. Hell, I never even took off my hat.

Posted by: Herman Cain at November 29, 2011 01:11 PM (QcFbt)

Preach it Brother!

Posted by: Bill Clinton at November 29, 2011 01:12 PM (NtXW4)

Damnit guys!!!  Why didn't anyone let me in on this secret.  Now I've got this kid I have to support from prison...

99 Woman initially asked about Afghan draw down, but when he tried to answer that (he is against timetables) she wanted to make it about funding the military.  I think she said that we spend half our money on the military (I may have misheard that). 

So she's a Paulbot, I think.

100 First thing in office, install a weak AG with a receding chin.
Next, rape the country.

101

Guvnah: Why do we have a department of edu? A dept of energy?

I just love the Southern accent. Do you own a seersucker suit?

102 96 I would love to hear Teh Fred's take on everything. I would bet he'd be a Perry guy.
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Yeah, me too. 

The constitutional conservatives I know - the GOP members, not hte ones who've gone third party - are for Perry.  Even here in Utah.

103 99 Woman initially asked about Afghan draw down, but when he tried to answer that (he is against timetables) she wanted to make it about funding the military.  I think she said that we spend half our money on the military (I may have misheard that). 

So she's a Paulbot, I think.

It is a common misconception.

104 Question from kid who lives on a small farm...  seems to be about cheap immigrant labor hired by big food producers. 

105 96 I would love to hear Teh Fred's take on everything. I would bet he'd be a Perry guy.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 29, 2011 01:32 PM (LyOUH)

Teh Fred's on Twitter.  He tweets about 2 tweets a day, usually in succession at the end of the workday.  They're usually funny and informative.

106 Teh Fred has a website, but I can't access it from work: fredthompsonsamericaDORcom

107

Being a politician should not be a career.  The longer in office, the more corrupt politicians become.

We need term limits.  Two terms and you're outta there!

108 DOT com

109

Barack Hussein Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

I denounce myself.

110 Perry: close the border first, but to address labor issues look at the specific labor needs and adjust the immigration policies accordingly

111 Every day we hear of some new corrupt scheme and we never here of anyone being charged, much less going to jail.

Why is that?

Because those doing the corruption are leftists.

112

Teh Fred's on Twitter.  He tweets about 2 tweets a day, usually in succession at the end of the workday.  They're usually funny and informative.

 

Really? I may just have to subscribe to that.

113
No no no no.

How do we put Americans back to work, governor.

114 Perry should have addressed food price spikes scenario the kid posed by pointing out he'd eliminate ethanol subsidies!

115

Damn, Darn, this broadcast is so amateurish.

Either put a roving mike in the audience to broadcast the questions, or repeat them at the start as part of your answer.

Rick, get a pro to run these things!

116 He's @fredthompson

117

Occupy Chackbay!

 

(Try finding that on a map. You can't make that kind of money down on the bayou.)

118 OT:  Ann Coulter got bleeped this morning when she called John McCain a douche bag.  Jeez, I didn't even know it was a secret.

They bleeped it for the chirrens.  Because TV is the bastion of morality and standards must be upheld. ....

119 A "character" asking the last question.

120 Is this audience drunk?

121
why do idiots show up a these events?

122 Q:  Will your personal obligations to God come before your allegiance to the United States?

A:  Those would come together.  They can't be separated. 

123 Every day we hear of some new corrupt scheme and we never here of anyone being charged, much less going to jail.

Why is that?

Attorney General Eric Holder.

124 107 Being a politician should not be a career.  The longer in office, the more corrupt politicians become.

We need term limits.  Two terms and you're outta there!

That gives senators an advantage. Why not make it even between representatives and senators by making it 6 terms for the former and 2 terms for the latter?

125

I disagree with Levin on one aspect of his assessment of what our government has become.  He says it's a soft tyranny; I say we've been in soft tyranny for years and are now moving to the more vicious kind.

I'm still of the opinion that 2012 may be too late.  The SCOAMF is going try everything in his power (and trust me people, he has a lot of power) to bring this nation down before the election.  Some people say "let it burn".  Well, that's exactly what Barky is saying too. 

126 Never let students or academics run your event for you. 


I think Perry had some good sections in there that can be used for ads.  He needs to put out a written border security plan. 

127
If you're a loser, please stay away from campaign events.

128 They bleeped it for the chirrens.  Because TV is the bastion of morality and standards must be upheld. ....

Yeah!

129 Q:  Will your personal obligations to God come before your allegiance to the United States?

A:  Those would come together.  They can't be separated. 

Posted by: Y-not at November 29, 2011 01:40 PM (5H6zj)

Was that a real question and answer?

 

130
If you feel the need to ask an impertinent question or make a statement that will cause our candidates to feel awkward, please stay home.

131 I wish someone would have asked Governor Perry if he is considering further steps to curb executive power.

132 They bleeped it for the chirrens.  Because TV is the bastion of morality and standards must be upheld. ....

Speaking of which, I was watching Poirot on PBS last night (I denounce myself).  Our PBS station is run by Brigham Young University. 

They bleeped it when a character said "Dear Lord" and "Oh my God."

Kind of annoying, actually.  

133 If you're a loser, please stay away from campaign events.

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 29, 2011 01:41 PM (sqkOB)

That would eliminate most of the media...

134
he touched briefly on executive powers when he answered the question about rounding up terrorists

135 Was that a real question and answer?

Pretty much.  Heavily paraphrased.

I think half the questions were from Paulbots. 

136 I think half the questions were from Paulbots. 

Posted by: Y-not at November 29, 2011 01:44 PM (5H6zj)

Oh...so I should have asked if the audience was high?

137 44 A Louisiana politician accused of bribery and corruption?

Fucking sledgehammers at dawn on The Commons, ace. You will NOT insult the honor of this gentleman from my home state.   Jeff,  I can do you one better, he's from my hometown of Thibodaux, LA!

138 The say that there are more crooked politicians than Carter makes of those little liver pills.

139 Is it a big deal that he didn't know the specific legislation that had to do with rounding up terrorists?

Should a candidate get a daily legislative briefing so they are not flat-footed?  If so, can we get Miss80s on retainer for Governor Perry? 

140 Meanwhile, the pharmaceutical industry got a guarantee that "Congress would not legislate any cost-cutting measures that would make a dent in industry profits."

That may be the "last Congress" but what have you doen for them lately ?

141

tami

 

hahaha.......

142

While weÂ’re on the subject of corruption, hereÂ’s how the whole thing will go down.

 

Obama will continue a massive fundraising campaign to milk every dime possible out of the left.  He will spend little in the first half of 2012, explaining that heÂ’s husbanding the resources until the republican candidate is chosen.  In June, heÂ’ll announce that after analyzing the internal polls and consulting with his closest advisors, he has determined that the racially charged atmosphere that the republicans have created makes it impossible for him to be reelected and that to continue would drag the entire party down.

 

However, Obama will say that he still believes his service to the country is unfinished, so he will start a long-range campaign to recapture the White House in 2016 (or later if necessary) if the republicans win against whoever (Hillary) the democrats choose to be the candidate.  Following FEC rules, Obama will purchase a Boeing 757 with campaign funds and outfit it in the splendor heÂ’s become accustom to in Air Force One.  He will also retain a small group of loyalists to help him maintain his financial records as he “campaigns” and “fact finds” around the globe in a futile effort to make a dent in the half-billion plus he has to spend.

 

White liberals will be outraged, but wonÂ’t say much because it might be viewed as racist.  Blacks will celebrate the bold “fuck you, America” more than the O.J. verdict.

143 They bleeped it when a character said "Dear Lord" and "Oh my God."

You've got to be kidding.  May bleep have mercy on their souls.  I wonder if they would've bleeped allah akbar.

144

Preview of coming attacktions........

http://zapit.nu/1jZ

What do newt Gingrich and Herman Cain have in common? They both admire women biblically.

145 White liberals will be outraged, but won’t say much because it might be viewed as racist. Blacks will celebrate the bold “fuck you, America” more than the O.J. verdict. Posted by: jwest at November 29, 2011 01:47 PM (qeYI9) Maybe we can arrange to lose him in the Bermuda Triangle. That would be the best case scenario.

146 @ 137, Small world! Bourg is my hometown and both my parents went to Nicholls State.

147

The system really is very corrupt, isn't it?

Understatement.

148 You've got to be kidding.  May bleep have mercy on their souls.  I wonder if they would've bleeped allah akbar.
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I doubt it.  It's an LDS thing.  They emulate devout Jews on not saying the Lord's name.  I've actually gotten dirty looks shot at me by people in restaurants when I've accidentally said something like "oh my God" in the course of a normal conversation. I try not to do it, but this was in Salt Lake, which is only 50% LDS, and I'm not perfect. 

149 damn, Patrice OÂ’Neil passed away

150 134 he touched briefly on executive powers when he answered the question about rounding up terrorists

I still feel his plan regarding government, while possessing many good points, favors the executive. Our candidates need to focus on Obama's abuse of power and highlight what they would do differently.

151 It is my sacred honor to inform you that Barack Obama is a Stuttering Clusterfuck of a Miserable Failure.

152 U.K.: Iran faces 'serious consequences' over embassy attacks Foreign Minister William Hague says Iranian government failed to take measures to protect two British embassies attacked by protesters. Serious consequences? Like What?

153 I've actually gotten dirty looks shot at me by people in restaurants when I've accidentally said something like "oh my God" in the course of a normal conversation. Really? How would they respond to "The fuck are you lookin' at?"

154 Serious consequences? Like What?

Posted by: nevergiveup at November 29, 2011 01:55 PM (i6RpT)

Harshly worded letter?

155

146 @ 137,

Also went to Nicholls, and USL (refuse to call it Univ of LA, Lafeyette)

Now in the other LA (land of fruits and nuts).  

156 Not too many months ago a MSM commenter stated that so far the obama admin. is free of scandals.

157

How can I be in two places at once?

Locally, Cain speaking at 6:30 PM at Hillsdale college, and I have an invite, also Michigan Tea Party forum in Milford at 7:00 PM for our Senate candidates with a straw poll.

Both at the same time.

Oh woe is me.

158 The sidebar on Kagan recusing herself on an Obamacare Supreme Court hearing. 

Three Republicans sent a letter to Eric Holder complaining that Kagan ought to recuse herself just because there is a specific federal statute that plainly and clearly applies to her and requires her to do so.

Bwahahahahaha

God, you folks slay me.

I shall be holding my breath waiting for his reply to that one.

...
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Turning blue now...
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159 OT: New House Armed Services ad regarding the defense side of the sequester

160

As annoying as Tauzin's feedbag is, I'm still more offended that the law firm that "reviewed" Solyndra's application for its grant got $2+ million for it.

Of course, it turns out the law firm employs the wife of one of Obama's flunkies, so I guess it isn't corrupt because the wife isn't acutally Obama or something.

Over 2 million dollars to read through a grant application. That's how graft is done these days. And nobody bats an eye because hey, legal fees are expensive!

161 Jacko's pill peddler got 4 years. Now where in the world will I find somebody who gives a fat rat's ass?

162 we spend half our money on the military

It's true!  Otherwise why would Boehner agree to the automatic cuts that are 50% military?

/sarc off   Seriously, we complain about this candidate or that one depressing the conservative vote but shouldn't we be more worried about Boehner, McConnell and pals doing more to depress the base?

163

This whole regime was corrupt before the SCOAMF ever took office.  Eric Holder is there for the main purpose of letting it continue unabated.

And all this information was known prior to the election.  Fuck you, 52%ers.

Thank you, Glenn Beck.  You were warning us of this before even the 2006 takeover of congress by the dems.  I did listen, paid off my debts, and got 90% of my capital out of the markets.  I'm doing okay, so far. 

164

All this Democrat corruption stuff accomplishes nothing but to distract us from the key issue and what should be the key focus of this primary:  purging the GOP of RINOs.

I'd rather Democrats control everything forever than to have a RINO representing the Republican Party.  Simultaneously I reject establishment Republicans.  I want an outsider.  I want someone who'll never compromise.  I want someone who agrees 100% with what I say, because if you're not getting 100% of what you want in politics that means you're only losing slower.  Hell, geeks, politics is all about litmus tests, loyalty oaths and ideological purity.  That's why when this country was founded it was based upon all dissenting points of view being stamped out and crushed.

My purity of conservative stigma is leading me to support a Gingrich-Cain-Bachmann-Palin candidacy for the presidency in '12. 

General Gingrich is my main man because he's a great debater and as anyone with a set of gonads knows the most important qualification for a presidential nominee is good debating skills.  Governor Cain is the man because I know the least bit about him and he's never held a government job.  To fix this rotten government of ours we need someone who has no government experience.  Senator Bachmann is my main lady because she don't tolerate them Mexican folk and she's had a bunch of kids.  Bachmann also taught that RINO Perry a lesson or two about what it means to be a true and pure conservative patriot.  Of course Saint Palin is my ultimate nominee.  When the going gets tough, punks, the truly tough get up and quit. 

Step off, RINOs, because we'll not rest until we're a party of none.

165

@165 Is this what you want? LOL!

Where have all the good men gone
and where are all the gods?
Where's the streetwise Hercules to fight the rising odds?
Isn't there a white knight upon a fiery steed?

...............................................

I need a hero. I'm holding out for a hero 'til the end of the night.
He's gotta be strong and he's gotta be fast
And he's gotta be fresh from the fight.
I need a hero. I'm holding out for a hero 'til the morning light.
He's gotta be sure
and it's gotta be soon

And he's gotta be larger than life.
I need a hero. I'm holding out for a hero 'til the end of the night

http://zapit.nu/1jb

The link is well worth the click.

166 The system really is very corrupt, isn't it?


Jonathan Alter: But Barry is totally scandal free!!!

167 "The system really is very corrupt, isn't it?" It is. And it always has been, to some degree. Look at Senator George Washington Plunkitt's "Honest Graft and Dishonest Graft" philosophy. It's human nature to take advantage of opportunities. If you can rationalize your greed as coinciding with the public welfare (free health care!) then all the better. In the good ol' days, this only worked so far because the scope of each politician's dishonesty was limited. Senator Graft McStealy could push along a public works project and grab some cash and votes on insider information. But he and his pals couldn't sell 1/4 of the economy, because they didn't control it, and everyone knew that. "If men were angels, no government would be necessary. If angels were to govern men, neither external nor internal controls on government would be necessary. In framing a government which is to be administered by men over men, the great difficulty lies in this: you must first enable the government to control the governed; and in the next place oblige it to control itself. A dependence on the people is, no doubt, the primary control on the government; but experience has taught mankind the necessity of auxiliary precautions." Sadly, our betters have turned off the auxiliary precautions. They get in the way of making the trains run on time.

168 We have got to get Rick on people's televisions.  I wish the Reagan Library or some place like that would invite him for a major address. 

Posted by: Y-not at November 29, 2011 01:16 PM (5H6zj)

Too little too late. The Newt snowball has started down the mountain, getting bigger and going faster. I'm not sayin' that's the best  thing, but, there it is. 

169 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

170

Yes, it appears to be corrupt to the point that it's hard to understand how anyone on the outside from either side of the political spectrum with a speck of intelligence can have a lot of hope of  anything being "reformed". If they are this venal, do you trust them to do anything?

I could care less if it hurts Republicans too - this system needs desperately to be changed and these jerks need to be fired pronto, criminally charged if at all possible.

If it happens to spear more Democrats, fine, but this goes way beyond supporting a party or even an ideology.

I think this unfolding story could have legs and has the potential to enrage libs and conservatives. Question is will the MSM spike this, fearing it may bring hurt too many of their precious Democrats?

171 Posted by: Totally Irrational Political Malcontent at November 29, 2011 02:09 PM (f8XyF) Is being a moby as boring as being everyone else when you're around?

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