August 20, 2011

Blogging After America - Day Ten
Epilogue - The Hope of Audacity[ArthurK]

— Open Blogger

Welcome to the Tenth and Last Day of Blogging After America. For those few of you who haven't already made their reservations at the finest Swiss euthanasia clinics, the epilogue lays out a plan of action to prevent the horrible things in the previous chapters from happening. If this works, Steyn's reward is that he will be called an "alarmist" as nothing he predicted in his book came true.

Previously in the series - Day One, Two, Three, Four, Five, Six, Seven, Eight, Nine.


"More than any other time in history, mankind faces a crossroads. One path leads to despair and utter hopelessness. The other, to total extinction. Let us pray we have the wisdom to choose correctly." - Woody Allen

I do not believe that the solution to our problem is simply to elect the right people. The important thing is to establish a political climate of opinion which will make it politically profitable for the wrong people to do the right thing. Unless it is politically profitable for the wrong people to do the right thing, the right people will not do the right thing either, or if they try, they will shortly be out of office. - Milton Friedman

This chapter's theme is Steyn's "Nine D" program to restore America. Let's get into it!


Page 325 - A Jr. High student in Dillon SC wrote a letter to Obama that he quoted in the 2009 state of the union. Among other things, the letter lamented the poor condition of the school - it needed paint. Dillon has 6,000 people. Nobody can paint? There's no hardware store than can donate a few gallons? But they can ask the Feds to do it for them. BTW, in 2010 Congress passed the Food Safety Act which included the regulation of school bake sales. Ask the Feds to do something and they'll want to do (control) everything.

P333 - "Big Govt. makes everything else small and rolling it back will be difficult"

Difficult but not impossible. Here's the 9 Ds.

  • De-Centralize


  • De-Governmentalize


  • De-Regulate


  • De-Monopolize


  • De-Complicate


  • De-Credentialize


  • Dis-Entitle


  • De-Normalize


  • Do

P333-347


De-Centralize


In America power flows from citizen to town to county to state to nation - and less is passed up at each level. That's the theory. "The unceasing centralization of power nullifies the American Revolution."

In 1940 there were 120,000 school boards. Today, 15,000. Centralization takes away local power.

Musings - Technocrats say centralization is more efficient. As a general rule, when you hear an elite talk about efficiency... smack him!

State and local govts. must ignore the Feds and sometimes defy them. (I'm assuming the court system gets a work out in the last case.)

An Example: In 2003 a town in NH had a bridge condemned. The state said we'll replace the bridge and split the cost with you 80/20. They said the new bridge would cost $320k so the town would pay $64k. Town says, "ok". 2009. Bridge isn't built yet. Now state says they can use stimulus money to build bridge. Cost split between Feds/State/Town 60/32/8. The bridge would now cost over $650k (but that cost might increase a lot by the time it was actually built). Town says F U. Hires its own contractor and builds the bridge right away for $30k.

"When something goes wrong a European demands to know what the Govt. is going to do about it. An American does it himself" - Tocqueville. If you can't do it yourself, do it at the lowest level of Govt. possible.

De-Governmentalize

aka privatize. It's hard to close Govt. agencies but easier to sell them off. Bonus! That takes public employee union members off the public payroll.

Musings - Why not sell the weather service? There are lots of private companies that do weather forecasts. Sell off the weather service and if they can't survive - so what? (nothing special about the weather service - that's just the first one that popped into my head. There are 1,000s of other candidates).

De-Regulate

Then - "The Business of America is Business" - Coolidge
Now - The Business of America is Regulation. - The Feds

De-Monopolize

He's referring to Govt. monopolies. Say no to Obamacare! And, I presume, no to student loans (now a govt. monopoly), mortgage rebundling (FNMA and friends). Citizens can spend money for their own benefit better than bureaucrats.

De-Complicate

In Buyer-Seller transactions you learn what costs are normal. A movie ticket is around 5-10 bucks. If the ticket seller asks for $300 you know something is wrong. With a 3rd party (as in govt. run health care) you don't know if a broken leg should cost $200 or $20,000. All you care is if the Govt. will grant you access.

As much as possible daily life should be Buyer-Seller with no 3rd party. Look at computer prices today and in 1980. Imagine if the govt. were a 3rd party in the personal computer area!

De-Credentialize

School reform. Compress time - get rid of the fluff. (Steyn gives examples of wasted time which I'll skip to save time.) A kid should be able to get a basic HS diploma by 14 and an advanced HS diploma by 16. The advanced HS tells employers the new adult is employable. He can read, write, do math, fill out forms. He can handle entry level jobs. College should be for those entering professions like engineers and doctors. Vocational schools can handle other types of training. Note that Steyn left school at 18 to become a DJ.

Dis-Entitle

"Entitlements are the death of responsible government." They mandate spending, they violate a basic democratic principle - that a parliament cannot bind its successors.

De-Normalize

Statists overreach. The climate change gang went too far and are now discredited. (the fight is still going on but they're being pushed back) Starting in 2009 the big spenders went too far. But discrediting climate change and big spenders was a near thing. More people have to push back. The culture, an everyday thing, is more important than political change. Culture drives politics.

Do

Great stuff here but hard to summarize so let's move on to the conclusion!

P346 - The opposite of Big Govt. is NOT Small Govt. It is Big Liberty!*

The more govt. does, the less there is for a citizen to do. Big Govt. leads to small liberty and small men.

*I like to say Limited Govt. but Steyn's phrasing is better as it sounds good in arguments.

P348 - "You can live as free men, but, if you choose not to, your society will die."


"So, if you don't want to die, you need to force the statists either out of office or into dramatic course correction. For a start, if a candidate is not publicly committed to fewer government programs from fewer government agencies enforcing fewer government regulations with fewer government bureaucrats on less lavish taxpayer-funded pay, he's not serious. He's not only killing your grandchildren's and children's future, he's killing yours - and you will live to see it. It will be hard enough to apply pressure on America's bureaucracy-for-life once he's elected, but if he's not prepared to argue for smaller government en route to office he's certainly not going to do so afterwards. This applies to all levels of government: not just federal but state, county, town, and school district. Follow Friedman's rule: make the wrong people do the right thing. Forcing candidates to make no tax pledges has had some success, not least in my own state. Let's try some spending pledges, and regulation pledges."

"This is a battle for the American idea, and it's an epic one, but you can do anything you want to do. So do it."

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1 Yes.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at August 20, 2011 11:18 PM (s/zlD)

2

I'm glad to hear someone else challenging the insane notionh that teenagers need to be in school until they're 18.  I could plan out a HS curriculum that taught a student everything they needed to know in 3 years, or less if 5-8 grades weren't a waste of time.

Posted by: Alex at August 20, 2011 11:50 PM (J2ejK)

3 > 2 I'm glad to hear someone else challenging the insane notionh that teenagers need to be in school until they're 18. ... Posted by: Alex You could be on to something. I, like many people in my HS, goofed off the last 2 of the 4 years because we had satisfied most of our requirements in years one and two (plus summer school - summer school classes were easier than regular year classes and there was nothing to do in the morning anyway). My last year of HS i had 2 classes and PE in the morning and then I took off to vocational school for print shop.

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at August 21, 2011 12:03 AM (+JhHG)

4 nice work CA...  good stuff Steyn

Posted by: Yip in Texas at August 21, 2011 12:25 AM (SyLEU)

5 I, like many people in my HS, goofed off the last 2 of the 4 years because we had satisfied most of our requirements in years one and two (plus summer school - summer school classes were easier than regular year classes and there was nothing to do in the morning anyway).

I was a bit like that, but I stuck at it because I was there for the music classes which were 1st, 4th and 7th period, and so I just took fun stuff like Latin to fill in the day, and things like AP physics just to keep my best friend company. I had a dead period the last semester, so I just acted as a TA to my German-Latin teacher because he was truly a great guy. I ended up with over half again as many credits as I needed when I graduated.

I redeemed them for a Murray 26-inch three-speed bike.

Posted by: Otis Criblecoblis at August 21, 2011 12:34 AM (fjoLg)

6 SCOAMFuck blaming congress for our economic problems is the closest he will ever come to blaming himself.

Posted by: elspeth at August 21, 2011 12:58 AM (0h5/+)

7

My ideal school curriculum.  All classes are 45 minute periods 5 days a week.

Year One:

Algebra, US History to 1865, Physics, Composition/Rhetoric, Sports, Computer Skills.

Year Two:

Geometry/Statistics, US History to Present, Chemistry, Health/Nutrition, American Literature

Year Three:

Biology, Geography, Government/Econ

Year Four:

Life Skills, Self Defense

Note that under this plan, students in their third and fourth year will only attend school for half days.  This frees up afternoons for vocational training, work, college courses, or remedial study.

Posted by: Alex at August 21, 2011 01:16 AM (J2ejK)

8 I'm not seeing any survival skills there.  In short order, it may well be more important for a student to know which leaves are edible and how to figure that out.  Also, marksmanship.

Posted by: flashoverride at August 21, 2011 01:22 AM (8JPcC)

9 Marksmanship is covered in the self-defense class, which will include how to fire a pistol and a rifle and proper firearm safety.

Posted by: Alex at August 21, 2011 01:37 AM (J2ejK)

10 9 Marksmanship is covered in the self-defense class, which will include how to fire a pistol and a rifle and proper firearm safety. Posted by: Alex In my lifetime, it was not unusual for high schools to have shooting clubs with gun ranges on the school.

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at August 21, 2011 01:41 AM (+JhHG)

11 Just leave it to us.  We will take care of everything.  Even though we have never done anything, we know more about everything than anybody who has ever done something.  

Posted by: The Harvard Faculty at August 21, 2011 01:42 AM (hZqYp)

12 But I have to buy kids basic school supplies, I work harder then you, I'm molding young minds. And I do all this with slave wages and crappy benefits.
I'm relevant dammit!

Posted by: Teachers at August 21, 2011 01:50 AM (GZitp)

13 Speaking as someone who was born in the lull after the "boomers" and on the front end of "Gen X" (last of five, born in '73) I think the best advice of this post is "do". I saw the mistakes my siblings made and repeated some, and was too lazy or self serving to try others. I wish Stuttering Clusterfuck of a Miserable Failure was as lucky

Posted by: Sock Puppet in Training at August 21, 2011 01:56 AM (UO0Is)

14 I dig holes for a living.

Posted by: Sock Puppet in Training at August 21, 2011 01:57 AM (UO0Is)

15 If this smaller government crap keeps up I'm not going to be able to buy a new car every other year with contributing to my healthcare and shit. Hell I might even have to work till I'm 55 to afford that retirement home on the golf course. This shit has to stop.

Posted by: Teachers at August 21, 2011 01:59 AM (GZitp)

16 I took a class in high school called "outdoors" where we did learn slot of survival skills. I was top of the the class for marksmanship (rifle) because my dad was a game hunter and did not have a son until I was 11, so he drug me along, made me get a hunting license and take hunters safety. So I learned alot and am glad for it now. I was unfamiliar with shotguns because he did not care much for shooting birds. The first time I ever even saw skeet shooting was in this class the day we went to a private range. I was bad at it and the boys were happy because I had showed most of them up previously with the rifle. Then the Sheriff pulled up for some chit chat eventually pulling out from under his seat a sawed off shot gun. No idea on the gauge, but when it was my turn to shoot it kicked the crap out of my shoulder and knocked me back against his car. Boys laughed like hell. That is the first and only time I saw a sawed-off. When my dad passed he left my mom everything but the guns which he passed on to us kids and grandkids.

Posted by: Small Town Girl at August 21, 2011 02:02 AM (NfTEQ)

17 On top of it all after only three months off I'm expected to go back to work pretty soon. Hope you're happy Koch brothers.

Posted by: Teachers at August 21, 2011 02:02 AM (GZitp)

18 Posted by: Alex at August 21, 2011 05:16 AM (J2ejK) I'm sure it was an oversight but you forgot the most important courses for a bright future... -community organizing -central planning -propaganda, basic and advanced -newspeak

Posted by: King Barack the Stuttering Clusterfuck of a Miserable Failure at August 21, 2011 02:08 AM (nxptv)

19 Half day's are ok if the kids are expected to work on my campaigns -- and taught to stay off my golf courses. And you need a class teaching union appreciation. I teach my kids, you have to break a few heads to make my lobster omlettes.

Posted by: Barky O'Bumbles at August 21, 2011 02:24 AM (6Cjut)

20 I find myself in agreement with everything the President wrote. Sure Barack doesn't do as well as others on tests and assignments but he sure speaks well and my white guilt needs me to promote him over others that are more qualified.

Posted by: Teachers at August 21, 2011 02:30 AM (GZitp)

21 Posted by: Small Town Girl at August 21, 2011 06:02 AM (NfTEQ)

Heh!! That gave me a smile

Posted by: beedubya at August 21, 2011 03:00 AM (AnTyA)

22 In my lifetime, it was not unusual for high schools to have shooting clubs with gun ranges on the school.

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at August 21, 2011 05:41 AM (+JhHG)


We didn't have gun clubs where I was, but I do remember bringing my .22 rifle in for Show-and-Tell back in the 5th grade.

Posted by: beedubya at August 21, 2011 03:02 AM (AnTyA)

23 G-day Morons and Moronettes:

I don't see how we could trust young people to do anything unless they have a liberal arts college degree and are old enough to have their own health insurance (27 years old).  As proof, I offer the following bit of history:

"George Washington at the young age of 16, began working with a surveyor. At the age of 17, he was commissioned as the surveyor for newly-formed Culpeper County, Virginia."


Posted by: Hrothgar at August 21, 2011 03:15 AM (yrGif)

24 I'm guessing that the anecdote was highlighted because Bernanke is from there.

Plus whether local, State or Federal, Government employees and their bosses don't like the citizens to take action on their own. It is actively discouraged and often is illegal. (and they will prosecute)

You can't volunteer to do something and expect to receive a welcome attitude. Sometimes it's because of the regulations dictating how, when, what and under what conditions something can be done.

In the situation with the paint, I would guess that only paint certified and approved by local gov and school supers would be allowed. Plus what if someone gets injured on school property while painting? So there's another problem with volunteerism.

I've said before that it's easy to talk about dismantling the nanny state but no one realizes the extent of the threads that bind us to this way of life now. It can't all be undone in a few weeks or a year or even multiple years. That's one of the problems, there needs to be a constant push with someone to oversee the process to reverse the reach of federal gov't.

I'm afraid that due to short attention spans that it will never be done without a radical push from outside the system. What that could be, I haven't a clue.

P.S. when you encounter regulatory roadblocks to doing something rational and that makes sense, THANK A LAWYER.

Posted by: I don't know WHO I am anymore at August 21, 2011 03:21 AM (iniPz)

25 Oh and as for privatization?

That's all well and good, until the company that bought in decides to close OR changes it's business practice so that the citizens are not being served well.

There are many examples of this, especially agencies/ bureaus that have niche functions.

I don't disagree it would seem to be a good way to go but in practice it doesn't always work out.

Take prisons. Private jails are very efficient. They're also violate prisoner's rights. Which you may think is a good thing but prisoners are mostly citizens and have rights. Would YOU want to be treated poorly while in prison just because it's convenient or economical?   Plus eventually most prisoners will be back out on the streets one day.  Private prisons CAN be a good thing IF gov't takes an active role in supervision. Problem is most don't.

Also some things don't lend themselves well to privatization due to the costs involved. The Post Office is one of them. Everyone thinks we can just do away with them and everything will be great. However a private company is not going to want to provide service Nationwide as many areas are too costly to service. Given the chance they will curtail service to the areas that they don't make any money from leaving people without. Think you don't need mail? Think again. Some bills CAN'T be done online and/or exact a premium for doing so.

What about Firemen, Police or Emergency services? Once again seems like they could make money but it doesn't work out in real life UNLESS they have policies that while efficient will leave those unable to pay without service.

Just a side note to all who rail against 'free riders' in our medical system being the reason why medical care is so costly; 80% of the American public believes that hospitals should care for those with emergencies that can't pay. As long as the public wants this and requires hospitals to provide free care then they will cost shift those expenses and medical care will cost more.

Posted by: I don't know WHO I am anymore at August 21, 2011 03:35 AM (iniPz)

26

Stuttering Clusterfuck of a Miserable Failure

I hate to be a contrarian, but BHO isn't a miserable failure - the dude is a nihilist who is succeeding beyond his wildest dreams.

[His wildest dreams being the annihilation of the USA, and, beyond that, the annihilation of Western Civilization in general.]

 

Posted by: Unreconstructed Paleocon at August 21, 2011 03:40 AM (nfn9A)

27 Our only hope is for the President to save the economy with a lot of extremely populist rhetoric

Posted by: Nina Totenberg at August 21, 2011 03:53 AM (le5qc)

28 Big Liberty!

Posted by: Andrew Breitbart at August 21, 2011 03:56 AM (lpWVn)

29 Big Liberty!

Posted by: Andrew Breitbart at August 21, 2011 07:56 AM (lpWVn)

I wonder what Breitbart thinks about his own comments here.

Posted by: beedubya at August 21, 2011 04:06 AM (AnTyA)

30 All those D's.

How about D-stupify?  Shit-weasels on F&F just pushed Jon Fkn Huntsman who was pushing the AGW fraud. The they showed Perry who said AGW was "unproven science"/ Thatn is about as mealy-mouthed as you can get.

Oh I didn't say it yet. FUCK.JON.HUNTSMAN

Posted by: Vic at August 21, 2011 04:13 AM (M9Ie6)

31 De-Centralization...

Mexican Drug Cartels "trust" decentralized and highly effective American prison and street gangs (the notorious California prison gang, Nuestra Familia, and its street affiliate, the Norteños) for the huge distribution network of decentralized employees trusted with $30BILLION in domestic American trade on consignment, no cash up front!

"Why We DonÂ’t Have Drug Cartels In the USÂ….Yet"

[Yet? From the Vietnam generation, my first reaction to that headline referenced the CIA. Which Mexican cartel actually expects to OFFICIALLY take on the CIA in a turf war? Castrated Border Patrol, Sheriffs and Police are small potatoes to the global CIA network now officially merged with our Military. The clouds of DOOM gathered overhead in the war on who profits from drugs, winner takes all.]

Highly compartmentalized organizations, like the decentralized network of street and prison gangs, are better suited to the U.S., as a large number of small groups draws less attention from the authorities than one big organization. Niccolo Machiavelli

Transnational gangs form alliance with Mexican cartel, becoming more sophisticated in trafficking drugs, guns, people
By Scott Johnson @ Oakland Tribune

Making Connections: The Nuestra Familia and Norteño members found what they thought was a shelter from law enforcement in the rural communities of the Central Valley. Many lived in nice suburban homes. It was quiet. The detectives began to piece together a picture of how the two organizations are working together. In the past, Johnston said, the cartels would only sell the narcotics that U.S. buyers could pay for up front. Now, he said, the Mexican cartels "are opening lines by giving them fronted amounts of drugs. They're helping them out, not just selling to them, and that's a big change." [The trust factor is based on "quality of product guarantee" made good by the Mexican-American gangs with customers, in turn appreciated/rewarded by the cartel.]


Posted by: maverick muse at August 21, 2011 04:27 AM (lpWVn)

32 23 G-day Morons and Moronettes:

I don't see how we could trust young people to do anything unless they have a liberal arts college degree and are old enough to have their own health insurance (27 years old).  As proof, I offer the following bit of history:

"George Washington at the young age of 16, began working with a surveyor. At the age of 17, he was commissioned as the surveyor for newly-formed Culpeper County, Virginia."


At 29, Paul Tibbetts commanded the 509th Composite Group, the outfit tasked with delivering the first nuclear weapons. Tibbetts commanded over 1800 men, and was responsible for dozens of aircraft and millions of dollars worth of equipment.

Today, he'd be off mom and dad's insurance for just two years.


Posted by: Perpetual childhood at August 21, 2011 04:33 AM (u+8qs)

33 Which you may think is a good thing but prisoners are mostly citizens and have rights.

30% are illegal aliens (from Latin America) in CA prisons that provide the breeding grounds for the distribution network north of the border for the Mexican drug trade stateside #32.

Furthermore, where's the evidence that private prisons deny prisoners "rights" which you stipulate as if the rule, and as if prisoner rights are never infringed in public tax-funded prisons?

Finally, our constitutional rights are as likely infringed upon by our own government whether living a lawful "normal" life or in prison. TSA for instance has no constitutional right to sexually molest every traveler, yet they do and they fine and prosecute any innocent people who object to being physically violated without cause by the statist authoritarian perverts.

Posted by: maverick muse at August 21, 2011 04:36 AM (lpWVn)

34 Posted by: maverick muse at August 21, 2011 08:27 AM (lpWVn) That reminds me...Breaking Bad new season starts tonight!

Posted by: Dejah T. Baggins at August 21, 2011 04:41 AM (tydO9)

35 I don't know WHO I am anymore

I'm following what you've written so long as thanking the gaggle of lawyers who write loop-holes in legislation (most in Congress are lawyers, as if they actually do their own writing, though) and who chase ambulances means "no thanks".

Posted by: maverick muse at August 21, 2011 04:46 AM (lpWVn)

36 There's a lot of ruin in a great nation.

Posted by: toby928™ at August 21, 2011 04:55 AM (GTbGH)

37 The only thing that bureaucracy understands is bureaucracy. To that end, I propose the next president create a Bureau of Government Efficiency modeled along the lines of the old Base Closing Commission. BoGE will be tasked to identify government programs and agencies that have completed their task then started to grow the mission, agencies & programs that have become outdated, have failed or become corrupt. Pork barrel legislation will be prime feeding for the "Boogers". Once identified, BoGE pulls their funding. To be sure BoGE does their job, their only income comes from the programs & agencies they shut down. The programs & agencies that have been "boogered" can ask Congress re-authorization or even petition the courts. Still, the courts are unlikely to be very sympathetic to graft and corruption and what legislator is going to stand against efficiency. The best part is that since Congress has meekly accepted Obama's czars and executive orders, any president can start this process without any authorization whatsoever. Congress will either have to suddenly re-discover the Constitution or stand by and watch as the bureaucratic construct of the last century devours itself from within.

Posted by: Jerry at August 21, 2011 04:56 AM (IpU2t)

38 At 25 I was an E-6 and an LPO. The senior guy who was in charge of my division was an E-7 only one year older than me. The officer in charge was younger than both of us.

As for Dillon, SC you must make allowances. The city motto is "quietly progressive" and 47% of the population is "African American" so no, it is not possible for them to paint the HS. And yes, they will write letters and vote for Obama to paint the school.

There are 3 hardware stores there and a ton of them in Florence which is only a few miles away.

Posted by: Vic at August 21, 2011 05:10 AM (M9Ie6)

39 This is not a plan of action, it is a list of wishful thinking. There is no plan for how to actually implement any of this in the face of progressive resistance, especially as the Cathedral has a lock on the reins of power right now. Moldbug's Octavian-style dictatorship is more plausible (and it's not very plausible).

Posted by: Rollory at August 21, 2011 05:57 AM (dDAlU)

40 A good piece on Steyn's book, here: http://tinyurl.com/3qog2cq

Posted by: Thea at August 21, 2011 05:59 AM (1mYui)

41 Really good job on this whole series.

Posted by: texette at August 21, 2011 06:32 AM (8sD9j)

42 OK, I know how touchy blog-owners can be when certain words show up in the comments so let me just quote directly from the book. Sure, a little (lots) out-of-context but it is the flavor of the book. Or maybe just a reflection of my level of gloom.
Page 111:
"At some point , the least worst option becomes armed revolution, civil war or at least an electro-magnetic pulse attack that conveniently obliterates every single bank account and wipes the slate clean."
yeah, it is my level of gloom. How far we have fallen in my short 50 something years.

Posted by: Artruen at August 21, 2011 07:44 AM (QpiBw)

43 Sounds good and all, but like robots we will all still vote for Romney for President, a huge statist, because we have been Alinsky-ized since childhood to believe that Republicans are something other than the statist protectionists to the Democrat statist progressives.

Sounds great, I love Steyn's plan, but we passed the start of the end game years back, and are just playing out the last few acts right now.

Great job blogging the book, very enjoyable and informative.

Posted by: Gabriel Syme at August 21, 2011 08:25 AM (eD5kQ)

44

Vic - if you're still around - did you ever get your bachelor's and/or an officer's commission?

 

Posted by: Unreconstructed Paleocon at August 21, 2011 09:01 AM (nfn9A)

45 Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at August 21, 2011 10:32 AM (MY5Eh)

46 38: A good idea, but I suspect that the Civil Service laws might get in the way. How does one get rid of all the employees in the Department of Agriculture for example? Can it even be done? One advantage of the spoils system was that all executive department employees were appointed by and served at the pleasure of the President.

Posted by: ManeiNeko at August 21, 2011 11:12 AM (TiE76)

47 Nobody's paying attention, but here is a great interview w/ Mark Steyn re. After America, on WGN Chicago (1.hr, w/ excerpts...): http://www.wgnradio.com/shows/ext720/wgn-x720-steyn-aug18,0,4131088.mp3file Described as "Get Ready For Armageddon Author Mark Steyn discusses the economic and cultural Armageddon that our country could soon face if its leadership & decision making do not improve". Have at it...

Posted by: Too Late for the party (but Obama is still a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure) at August 22, 2011 02:51 PM (t8yhd)

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