1

#Winning!

2 He shouldn't even be doing that well.

3 2 He shouldn't even be doing that well. 1/3 of Americans are total idiots. They want to stay on the plantation.

4

Hard cuts to entitlements? Yeah, we'll see how fucking mad they get without any entitlements when the shit really hits the fan! Half of nothing is ...nothing.

Count it!

Entitlements have electrolytes!

5 Hmm, 21% is determined to march over the cliff, as long as they have some "Soaring Rhetoric®" to follow.

6 Committed base of support of 30%?  Never fear!  Pulling out of Afghanistan should raise his base to about 33%.

7 and 2% totally clueless as usual

Obviously people who have been keeping up with the Veronica/Betty "scandal".

8

...21% is determined to march over the cliff...

And yet, they think there is going to be a soft landing. Pathetic.

9 I know!  What if they blamed Bush?  That would work, wouldn't it?

10 My bitches best be wearing jimmies.

11 If the economy next year is anywhere near what it is now, it's hard to see how Obama can possibly win. He should lose to any Republican with a pulse.

12 I can haz piccies of Obammy crying in his beer?  kplzthx.

13

The results of Barry's policies are polling at -34.8% today.

That's just political death to an incumbent President.

14

My bitches best be wearing jimmies.

Are those the ones with the toes, or a trap door?

15 Hmm, 21% is determined to march over the cliff, as long as they have some "Soaring Rhetoric®" to follow.

Posted by: Waterhouse

 

Try 37% think that. 16 % are going to go first feet. The 21% are going head first over that cliff.

16 There is of course bad news for Republicans here- some responses showing an electorate that is weary of actual hard cuts to entitlements....

Jeeminy Christmas (following comment #4 above), what hard cuts? Ain't nobody done nothin' but talk about the possibility that someone else will have to talk about making hard cuts some time after we're all safely in the grave!

I guess there's nothing left for it but to recall the words of the noted 20th Century philosopher F. Zappa:

Do you love it? Do you hate it?
There it is, the way you made it

17 We can't run a holes like Huntsman.  I'm not fond of Romney.  He is another RINO.

18 All the GOP needs is a halfway decent candidate....


...whoops.

19

"Nebraska's rogue congressional district."

What is that?

20 He should lose to any Republican with a pulse.

Posted by: tsj017 at June 22, 2011 09:53 AM (4YUWF)

Why bother with a pulse?  Zombie Reagan 2012!

21

Ah geez.  Obama loses in 2012?  Say it ain't so Joe!  I'm going to be crying loudly--just before I Roll On The Floor  Laughing My Ass Off.

He better lose--or else I'll do an Alec Baldwin and move to Canada or something.

22 I will be happy to see Barky kicked to the curb, just hope it happens.

23

#21

Omaha, CD-2. Went to Obama by a slim margin in 2008. Nebraska splits its electoral votes up in the event that the statewide loser captures a congressional district.

24 News polls are notoriously unreliable.

25 Can't wait to see the polls after Perry announces.

26 The part of the electorate that decides elections has noticed the 15-20% real unemployment, and stagflation.

And this will determine how they vote in 2012. Yes, the left will roll out enough of the government class to avoid a wipe out in the deep blue states, just like in 2010.

But right now, this is Obama's challenrger's election to lose. It can be done - but it will take a McCainish level of incompetence to pull it off.

27 Oh, and looking at the election, we need to make sure that conservatives are winning those upcoming Republican primaries.

If we aren't careful, we will see a repeat of 2004 - where Republican squishes and liberals manage to throw away their mandate - and in 2012, that would probably doom us to serious political instability as I think we have one last chance to do something about the creeping national socialist state...

28

I want The JEF to be a one termer more than I have wanted just about anything in life. I wish to see his supporters, the MFM and the morons who voted him in, stand there on election night and collapse in despair. Just for hates sake.

 

29 The chickens are coming home to roost. You can BS people but sooner or later they'll notice how muck suckitude is out there....

30 That's a photoshop I can tell by the pixels.

31 ..so the holier than though hollywood set are involved in a high stake gambling ring......all that money that could have gone to their charities.....or to balance the budget.....or help obama get reelected! i hope they donated to him with markers......

32 Gives me hope. Hmmm, given this poll in spite of the herculean efforts of the MBM on Barry's behalf dare I hope that more of the public may wake up wrt to the pravda nature of much of the media as well?

33 Huntsman!

According to ABC News he's the White House's "most feared" opponent.  Can the MSM be any more transparently in the bag for Obama?

34

The results of Barry's policies are polling at -34.8% today.

That's just political death to an incumbent President.

 

RACIST!!ELEVENTY!!

 

35
Jay Cost: If the economy continues on its current course, Obama is out before midnight EST on Election Day.

36 Does that postulation have him losing Virginia too, or does that remain undecided? It did have a streak of voting GOP in ten straight presidential races in between 1964 and 2008, but was '08 an outlier there and we're back to usual business in '12? Or is there some sort of demographic shift that, despite the gubernatorial win in '09 and House pickups in '10, bodes a tougher than usual presidential contest in the state?

I've been looking at the map and thinking the Nebraska district, North Carolina, Virginia, and Indiana almost assuredly go back Republican. Florida and Ohio also, in a "probably" category. If those line up we're at 266 and need only a single extra state to win, with several swing states to choose from.

37 So you know those articles about women dreaming about sleeping with Clinton and Obama? So if Bachmann wins, think they'll write about it positively when we dream about tagging that?

38

I want The JEF to be a one termer more than I have wanted just about anything in life. I wish to see his supporters, the MFM and the morons who voted him in, stand there on election night and collapse in despair. Just for hates sake.

 

Posted by: Sgt. Fury at June 22, 2011 10:09 AM (LXPet)

The problem is Obama is just part of the problem. A big narcissistic part of the problem, but unless we get a majority willing to change the arc of the government, merely getting rid of JEF won't do more then annoy the government class for a bit. 

39 As a concern Christian Conservative who voted for Ronald Reagan and George Bush, it is polls like this one that make me realize that Obama clearly has God on his side and is destined to win, therefore I will be staying home on election night.  We mustn't thwart the will of God.

40 37 Gives me hope. Hmmm, given this poll in spite of the herculean efforts of the MBM on Barry's behalf dare I hope that more of the public may wake up wrt to the pravda nature of much of the media as well

This is what people are saying about a year and a half out.  Remember, Carter was polling ahead of Reagan by, what, 20+ points at this time in 1979? 

It depends on what the economy does between now and then as well as what happens in foreign affairs.  Given how inept he is at both, I don't think those numbers will get any better.

41

The results of Barry's policies are polling at -34.8% today.

That's just political death to an incumbent President.

Why do you racists hate the president just because he cost you your jobs?

42 Outside of Ivy League graduates and black people, who's going to vote for him?

43 Why doesn't the media just promote McLame again.  He can do this time!

44 Ohio: 
Photo ID up for a vote

45 41 Does that postulation have him losing Virginia too, or does that remain undecided? It did have a streak of voting GOP in ten straight presidential races in between 1964 and 2008, but was '08 an outlier there and we're back to usual business in '12? Or is there some sort of demographic shift that, despite the gubernatorial win in '09 and House pickups in '10, bodes a tougher than usual presidential contest in the state?

It depends what happens with NoVA vs. the rest of the state.

Northern VA is heavily blue because so many government parasites live in areas like Arlington.  If the blue elements in the southern part of the state turn out and/or they get a huge turnout at universities like last time, Obama can win.  I don't see either happening, though, considering how badly the Dems did in the 2009 Governor's race and the total lack of enthusiasm by the young for Bambi this time around.

46  If the economy continues on its current course, Obama is out before midnight EST on Election Day.

Posted by: arhooley at June 22, 2011 10:14 AM (cSLvr)

I would love for him to lose just before my state (California)'s vote rolls in- 8pm PST. Possible with a bad economy.

47 The only hope Barry has on the economic front is if the GOP in Congress pull out a major win on getting our financial mess in order-- spending slashed and deficit dropping (and get some major energy production going, to boot).  What are the odds of that?

It's not like *MORE*STIMULATIN'! has a chance at this point.

48 Proof that America is being taken over by racists and rich people.

49 Compared to Jon Huntsman, Mitt Romney is gritty, down to earth and authentic.

50 Why doesn't the media just promote McLame again.  He can do this time!

Posted by: Crunch McLargehuge at June 22, 2011 10:18 AM (e8T35)

Er, don't you mean Big McLargeHuge?

51 It's not like *MORE*STIMULATIN'! has a chance at this point.

Posted by: nickless at June 22, 2011 10:20 AM (MMC8r)

That's what I'm talkin' about!

52

It depends on what the economy does between now and then as well as what happens in foreign affairs.  Given how inept he is at both, I don't think those numbers will get any better.

 

Brandon, I don't see the economy improving but only getting worse.  Of course, the MFM will tell us that we are doing better, they have already declared "The Greatest Recession Since The Great Depression" as being over when it's not.  We still have yet to see the true costs of Dodd/Frank and Obamacare to fully kick in.  Both of those bills are job killers as well as creators of hardship for ordinary Americans. 

WSJ had an article on Sat. how Dodd/Frank's causing retailers to limit the amount of money customers can get in a debit card "cash back" transaction to 20 bucks.  They are also starting to implement "minimum purchase" policies before customers are allowed to pay for things with plastic instead of cash.  These are things that are going to cause hardship for a lot of people (especially lower income types).  It is essential that the Republicans tie Democrat policies to these inconveniences/hardships that regular Americans are experiencing.  The media will not report it, and the Republicans need to get that message out loud and clear. 

53 "...If the above numbers hold, he will be lucky to break 200 electoral votes." Your mouth to G-d's ears.

54 4

Hard cuts to entitlements? Yeah, we'll see how fucking mad they get without any entitlements when the shit really hits the fan! Half of nothing is ...nothing.

Count it!

Entitlements have electrolytes!

Posted by: boned to the bone at June 22, 2011 09:50 AM (0ba8c)

I can haz Brawndo?

55 So you know those articles about women dreaming about sleeping with Clinton and Obama? So if Bachmann wins, think they'll write about it positively when we dream about tagging that?

How about women writing about dreaming about sleeping with Bachmann?  I bet Ace would "accidentally" post a link to a few.

56 CAC -

What states lost EC votes because of the census? What states gained them? I'm too lazy to look and I figure you know the answer.

57

John Huntsman is dreamy!  I think he has better hair than Mitt Romney, and his teeth...

 

58 Entitlements have electrolytes!

Posted by: boned to the bone at June 22, 2011 09:50 AM

Uh, they're what plants crave?

59 @60 I'll be in my bunk.

60 I wish to see his supporters, the MFM and the morons who voted him in, stand there on election night and collapse in despair. Just for hates sake.

Posted by: Sgt. Fury at June 22, 2011 10:09 AM

Cut. Jib. Newsletter. Mow your lawn?

61 Just on Fox Business:

Price, Waterhouse, Coopers:  50% of employers will drop coverage because of Obamacare.

62 Obama sucks cock. If the GOP can't beat a cocksucker in a general election when unemployment is north of 9% there is a serious problem with the citizenry, not the GOP.

63  CAC -

What states lost EC votes because of the census? What states gained them? I'm too lazy to look and I figure you know the answer.

Posted by: momma at June 22, 2011 10:26 AM (nWikJ)

The big winner is Texas, adding 4 electoral votes.   Florida gained 2 while New York and Ohio each lost 2.   Gaining one electoral vote each are Arizona, Georgia, Nevada, South Carolina, Utah and Washington.   Losing one electoral vote each are Illinois, Iowa, Louisiana, Massachusetts, Michigan, Missouri, New Jersey and Pennsylvania.

McCain08 states gained a net +6.

 

64

63 Entitlements have electrolytes!

Posted by: boned to the bone at June 22, 2011 09:50 AM

Uh, they're what plants crave?

Semi on topic:

PIMCO's El-Erian predicts Greece, others will default

/Despite the Greek PM surviving a no-confidence vote challenge? 

65 Further to my #66:  4 out of 5 employers will make changes to cover health care cost.

66 So with a 3.5% overstatement of dumbocrats, I'm thinking this puts King Putt at under 30% in the definitely vote for category and at or a good bit over 40% on vote for someone else.

Huzzah!

67

Price, Waterhouse, Coopers:  50% of employers will drop coverage because of Obamacare.

 

DUH!!  WINNING!!ELEVENTY!!

68

Rick Perry

Cap and Trade/AGW

In 2009 he trashed the Crap and Tax Bill

Note that there are multiple cases of him trashing that bill in 2009.

Not just rhetoric either

He is suing the EPA over “bad science”. I think he and TX are the only State that has done this.

Strong positive here

Gun Control

LOL, what can you say? He carries a weapon and shoots coyotes while jogging and he is from TX.  If he came out pro-gun control they would run him out of State.

Human Events article on this subject on Perry's site.

He wears a Gun Dealer shirt on Fox

He gets praises from the NRA (A+ rating)

Nuff, said, strong positive here

Small government in general (spending and regulation)

Taxes

On The Issues has him speaking out against taxes in general

He is also list as a member of the Tea Party movement

When the TX Comptroller causes Amazon to leave the State over the “so-called” internet loophole (which isn’t) he went ballistic. He called for legislation that restored the ruling that distribution centers with no storefront would be forced to collect sales taxes. Unfortunately the quest for taxes in the State legislature overrode him.

Some of the liberal “fact check” organizations like to ding him for signing into law small tax hike bills on stuff like fireworks to fund different projects but I don’t see that as an issue.

I will give him a positive on the tax issue.

Spending

I canÂ’t find a whole lot on his policies for spending.  It looks like that he is against big spending in general but it is hard to track down any specifics. I understand that TX has a huge deficit right now so there had to be some “spending” going on. I will have to give him a neutral here mostly for lack of information.

Government Regulation

I will have to say that his record here is poor to mixed. As evidenced above, he is strongly against burdensome Washington regulations and control over the States. But there are instances that really hit him hard in TX.

First the infamous Trans-Texas Corridor project which he pushed to further the connections through TX from Mexico to Canada. He would use imminent domain to take a massive amount of TX land and fund the project through tolls on the roads. After massive opposition by Texans the legislature passed a bill to defeat it. He vetoed the bill (after returning to the State from overseas) just before the legislature adjourned.   It appears he fought hard for this massive project including proposing legislation which would “reform” imminent domain making it EASIER to take land. I have seen posts here by his supporters that say he finally backed off on the deal. I canÂ’t find anything to support that contention. It appears that the massive project was killed first in Washington and then in Texas by the State Legislature. If any of the Morons have any info with links to show anything different from that please let me know and IÂ’ll update this. But to me, this is a MAJOR negative hit.

Another hit is the infamous Gardicil Vaccine via executive order (something we have been killing Obama over).  This order created a huge controversy in TX for several reasons. (1) It was done via executive fiat (2) It was expensive costing $360 except for “poor” (3) Social cons didnÂ’t like it over the sexual implications (4) A lot of people worried about the safety of the drug even though it had FDA approval (keep in mind that at the time ALL vaccines were under attack because of the bogus Lancet study.)  (5) In addition, there was a huge conflict of interest with the makers of the drug and Perry with implications of cronyism and possible corruption.

His supporters maintain that there was an opt out provision. The problem with that was that it required the parents to request and complete paperwork. IOW, work through a social bureaucracy to maintain your own personal choices. Although we will never know how that would have ultimately worked, we know how it has generally worked in the past (poorly). The legislature passed a bill that killed this requirement and he “allowed” it to go into effect.

My position is kind of mixed on this. I am generally in favor of immunizations, however, in one of this nature it would have been much better to work through the legislature and debate a bill rather than do it via executive fiat. If he had done that these problems would have been avoided.  Now we donÂ’t know if killing this was a good deal or not. I have to give him a big negative on this one as well.

I canÂ’t find much else about Texas regulations in general. I did find that he had established some kind of record on the number of vetoes but no details on what he had vetoed.

So in the end on regulations, I have to give him a strong negative. That, in my opinion, pushes him into the negative category for small government. That seems hard to accept for someone who is supposed to be a member of the Tea Party, but that is the way the cookie crumbles.

Socialized Healthcare

He strongly opposes Obamacare and wants it repealed. The Texas AG has joined with the other States in the civil action against the law.

However, much like regulations, he is in favor of the State implementing socialized medicine. He helped establish the childrenÂ’ social healthcare program in Texas.

His best action thus far on health care was the fight to reform Texas medical liability laws.

IÂ’ll give him a positive here, but it is not a strong one.

Border control/Amnesty

 His support for the TTC is the first hit here.

 His rhetoric is that the Feds need to put boots on the ground to halt illegal immigration and enforce existing law.

 He opposed a Texas version of the AZ law saying it is not right for TX.

 He has stated he opposes the notion of sanctuary cities and led the fight pushing for the Texas Sanctuary cities bill which ultimately passed.

 I could not find any position that he had taken on the 2006 McCain amnesty bill. 

It appears he is trying to walk a thin line here to prevent angering TX Hispanics. I give him a neutral here.

Abortion

He is a strong right to life candidate.

He also pushed through a bill requiring TX women to get a sonogram before an abortion. (Good for anti-abortion, bad for regulatory stance).

I would rate him as positive here.

Summary

4 positive, 1 negative, 1 neutral

Overall he appears good, but I have some serious concerns on his “small government” bonifides. His stance on border control/amnesty is somewhat weak as well.  I can support him as a candidate and he would go on my short list if/when he announces.  He is worthy of support, but I would caution the Morons on trying to make him the “Party Savior” for 2012 because the rest of the field is not satisfying their needs.

I do hope the club for growth does a wrap-up on him and is able to get some more info because that is the area that he is getting killed in here.

69 62 John Huntsman is dreamy! I think he has better hair than Mitt Romney, and his teeth... Posted by: runningrn at June 22, 2011 10:26 AM (ihSHD) Stupid 19th amendment!

70 Brandon, I don't see the economy improving but only getting worse.  Of course, the MFM will tell us that we are doing better, they have already declared "The Greatest Recession Since The Great Depression" as being over when it's not.

The grumbling is already happening when people talk to each other, as they notice that things are the same or getting worse, NOT getting better.

That undermines Obama as well as the MSM for trying to spin this shit sandwich as being wonderfully delicious.

71 Um, the economy is not going to rebound:

Geithner: We Need ‘Revenue Increases;' Cutting Deficit by Spending Cuts Alone 'Irresponsible'

Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner said Tuesday that a deal to raise the legal debt limit, which he expects to be completed in the next few weeks, will be only a short-term “down payment” on solving the nation’s debt problem, and that it would be "irresponsible" to reduce the massive federal deficit anticipated over the next ten years with spending cuts alone.

72

Summary

4 positive, 1 negative, 1 neutral

 

It's better than what we have now!

73 Hard cuts to entitlements? Yeah, we'll see how fucking mad they get without any entitlements when the shit really hits the fan! Half of nothing is ...nothing.

Well...

Those stupid enough to feel entitled to entitlements will be the ones roaming in frenzied zombie-like packs when the trough runs dry...looking to take from those who haven't been stupid enough to feel entitled to entitlements.

Zombies!!!

74

The big winner is Texas, adding 4 electoral votes.   Florida gained 2 while New York and Ohio each lost 2.   Gaining one electoral vote each are Arizona, Georgia, Nevada, South Carolina, Utah and Washington.   Losing one electoral vote each are Illinois, Iowa, Louisiana, Massachusetts, Michigan, Missouri, New Jersey and Pennsylvania.

McCain08 states gained a net +6.

 

Posted by: CAC at June 22, 2011 10:28 AM (JEVge)

And Gamera is still friend to children!

75 The results of Barry's policies are polling at -34.8% today.

That's just political death to an incumbent President.

I never liked that type of reporting 'cause it may also include those who think he's not going hard enough in his policies.  Do you honestly think that the hard-core lefties won't vote for him come Nov 2012?

76

McCain08 states gained a net +6.

 

Posted by: CAC at June 22, 2011 10:28 AM (JEVge)

Thanks.  Now, if the GOP doesn't screw this up . . .

77 It depends on what the economy does between now and then as well as what happens in foreign affairs.  Given how inept he is at both, I don't think those numbers will get any better.

It also depends on the candidate situation and how willing they are to make JEF own the whole mess. Obama made Republicans & Bush own it even though R's were out of power in Congress. Granted there were other factors to but our candidate should be willing to blame the Democrats from top to bottom for their failed policies and then give everyone a good reason to vote for them and their vision other than they aren't Obama.

78 Thanks. Now, if the GOP doesn't screw this up . . . Posted by: momma at June 22, 2011 10:34 AM (nWikJ) ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- Great. We're screwed then.

79 There's a lot more in play here than just a lousy economy and a tepid GOP field of candidates.
Like it or not, Obama stands for something in many Americans minds. He represents a powerful image of a mixed-race man from a broken home, raised by grandparents and worked his way up thru some of the best schools in the country to become a community leader, a state legislator, a US Senator and now POTUS.

It's a uniquely American success story and the mythology attached to it is VERY powerful, regardless how incompetent the actual man is.

Many Americans will vote for Obama just because it makes them feel good about themselves and the country.

IF YOU VOTED FOR OBAMA IN 2008 TO PROVE YOU WEREN'T A RACIST, THEN VOTE AGAINST OBAMA IN 2012 AND PROVE YOUR NOT AN IDIOT!

80 Stupid 19th amendment!

Posted by: blaster at June 22, 2011 10:30 AM (Fw2Gg)

Should be adjusted with a cupsize cutoff. Think about it, if done right then most of Hollyweird would lose voting rights. Christina Hendricks would gain her own electoral vote.

81 http://tinyurl.com/5lr6vx

Given how the stimulus "helped" the economy. This clip for MST3K,
He tried to kill me with a forklift, should be the theme song for the GOP

82 MST3K references are lame.

83 Christina Hendricks would gain her own electoral vote.

Give her a country of her own.  I nominate myself as US representative to the new nation of Gran Tetons.

84 But Intrade has Obama with 81 percent solid support!

85

OT - While I don't like to gloat over the possible death of people, even viscious, murderous, tyrannical people, the potentially removal of Chavez from this mortal plane would be a boon to the long-suffering people of Venezuela:

Venezuelans Puzzle Over Their Leader's Health

86 ...21% is determined to march over the cliff... And yet, they think there is going to be a soft landing. Pathetic. I think they expect the rest of us to catch them ...

87

Should be adjusted with a cupsize cutoff. Think about it, if done right then most of Hollyweird would lose voting rights. Christina Hendricks would gain her own electoral vote.

Posted by: C A C at June 22, 2011 10:35 AM (JEVge)

Just hope Sheyla Hershey (38KKK) isn't a lib and moves to CA.

88

The grumbling is already happening when people talk to each other, as they notice that things are the same or getting worse, NOT getting better.

That undermines Obama as well as the MSM for trying to spin this shit sandwich as being wonderfully delicious.

 

Yup!  Like Rush said, when the MFM was lying about how bad the economy was when George W. Bush was in office, people were like "I'm doing ok, but it sounds like other people aren't" and they didn't question the assertion.  They just accepted it.  Now, like you said, people are in real pain and feeling the pinch.  It's hard to say that everything is getting better when so many people are suffering and know other people who are suffering as well. 

Out where I live, not too many people are suffering.  We're kind of in a bubble.  I don't know too many people who have lost jobs and are getting foreclosed on.  My area of the country is an anomaly, though.  When I went home last summer, it was a different story on the East coast.  People were already experiencing hardship there, and they still are now.  They are truly hurting.

Meanwhile, they can see a disinterested, detached president who is golfing, vacationing, and partying on their dime.  I hope it is all sinking in.

89 87 MST3K references are lame.

Posted by: Canadian Prime Minister Zaphod "Zap" Rowsdower at June 22, 2011 10:37 AM (JEVge)

GOLD.

"Rowsdower. Is that a STUPID name or...?"

90 USAtoday,
Cash buyers are kings in weak home-sales market
U.S. home prices are 33% below their 2006 peak.

Let me repeat that

U.S. home prices are 33% below their 2006 peak.

91 Whoops, meant to have the sock off on that one.

92

WOW this just up on Fox

No cash in SC budget for GOP Primaries. But this may be good. Remember the court's basis for making primaries open. If the State contributed anything to it the State had a say.

So if there is no State funding the GOP can CLOSE the primary.

93 Barring some horrid revelations, Perry is the best mix of conservatism, toughness, and electability (accomplishments plus demeanor) that I've seen.  He'd be at the top of my list if he announces. 

94 the potentially removal of Chavez from this mortal plane would be a boon to the long-suffering people of Venezuela


I smell sulfur.

95 90

OT - While I don't like to gloat over the possible death of people, even viscious, murderous, tyrannical people, the potentially removal of Chavez from this mortal plane would be a boon to the long-suffering people of Venezuela:

Venezuelans Puzzle Over Their Leader's Health

Chavez going will help most of the people of South America and Central America, IMHO, given that Chavez has funded revolutionaries in Colombia while propping up half-assed Marxist regimes in Ecuador, Bolivia, and elsewhere.

96 I wonder if there's beer on the sun?

97 It depends what happens with NoVA vs. the rest of the state.

Northern VA is heavily blue because so many government parasites live in areas like Arlington.  If the blue elements in the southern part of the state turn out and/or they get a huge turnout at universities like last time, Obama can win.  I don't see either happening, though, considering how badly the Dems did in the 2009 Governor's race and the total lack of enthusiasm by the young for Bambi this time around.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at June 22, 2011 10:18 AM (UvFnc)

But hasn't NoVA being full of government workers been pretty much the norm for decades? Republicans still won the state regularly every four years, even when they didn't win the Electoral College overall (up until 200 . It did get close a few times, with Carter and Clinton getting within 2% in 1976 and 1996, but Bush 43 won Virginia by about 8 points both times, and the Nixon, Reagan, and 1988 Bush campaigns took it by over 10%.

Still, I agree that enthusiasm is going to be a huge factor. But on their side it's going to be almost entirely shifted from the blissful "We're for Obama! If he wins, he's going to save the world!" of three years ago, which significantly fewer of them believe in any more, into a more panicked "The Republican candidate can't be allowed to win! They're evil! EVIL! And if you don't agree, you're evil too!" That's motivating too, but mostly to the core that's already highly motivated.

98

Just hope Sheyla Hershey (38KKK) isn't a lib and moves to CA.

Posted by: The Robot Devil at June 22, 2011 10:38 AM (136wp)

She is a Republican, backing McCain in 2008.

So is Trisha Playas.

 

99

Ok bring the brats out...

100 ROWSDOWER!


http://tinyurl.com/23zebxv

101 If the GOP can't beat a cocksucker in a general election when unemployment is north of 9% there is a serious problem with the citizenry, not the GOP.

Agreed times 1000.  The problem with the GOP is *our* failure to take control from the precinct level and up to put conservative leadership in place.

102 Ooooo I needs an eraser!

103

...21% is determined to march over the cliff...

And yet, they think there is going to be a soft landing. Pathetic.

I think they expect the rest of us to catch them ...

Posted by: Jean at June 22, 2011 10:38 AM (WkuV6)

Yes.  Yes they do. 

You want the perfect pictoral representation of the entitlement mind?  I give you Valencia, Spain.  Because grown adults wearing diapers to protest government funding cuts is the BEST way to prove you're not a leech on the public teat.

WARNING:  The link is to a Netherlands site, so it's in Dutch, and some of the pictures are of the NSFW variety.  In particular one full-frontal of a very unhappy man (who has multiple reasons to be unhappy, if I'm any judge).

Here's the Google Translate translation of the pictorial's subheading:

Valencia Spaniards went to the streets today to protest against the government and the banking sector which they are responsible for the economic malaise of the country. The protesters believe that they are stripped by the painful cuts that the country must implement.

104 Huntsman is Obama's Manchurian candidate; divide and conquer.

105

FOOD!

106

Then they put a bottlebrush down my throat....

107 Rowsdower?  Could you put out my head?

108

it would be "irresponsible" to reduce the massive federal deficit anticipated over the next ten years with spending cuts alone.

 

This is almost as retarded as Timmeh! can get.  

Almost.

 

109

Valencia Spaniards went to the streets today to protest against the government and the banking sector which they are responsible for the economic malaise of the country. The protesters believe that they are stripped by the painful cuts that the country must implement.

Posted by: MWR at June 22, 2011 10:48 AM (4df7R)

Wait...this cannot be!  I thought Spain was used as the Utopian example of 'Green jobs'!?

/s

110 The protesters believe that they are stripped ...

Posted by: MWR at June 22, 2011 10:48 AM (4df7R)

OMG, what a mental image that creates. Grown adults with diapers, stripping.

111 Another serving of felt for ya?

112 I wonder how many respondents thought they were voting for Oban rather than Obama.

113

Buildings covered in gold, silver...matted hair...

114

oh...and watch out for snakes!

 

115

Wait...this cannot be!  I thought Spain was used as the Utopian example of 'Green jobs'!?

/s

Posted by: Tami at June 22, 2011 10:49 AM (X6akg)

Clearly they didn't get the memo! 

116 Ooooh, I hates that wabbit!

117 Winston Wolfe reminds you we haven't even picked a candidate yet.

118 Your father made this...he didn't do a very good job...

119 I canÂ’t find a whole lot on his policies for spending.  It looks like that he is against big spending in general but it is hard to track down any specifics. I understand that TX has a huge deficit right now so there had to be some “spending” going on. I will have to give him a neutral here mostly for lack of information.

Vic,

The bulk of our budget is healthcare and education. Part of the problem is the legislature circumvented Perry and accepted stimulus money for education. The school districts went nuts with it and hired a buttload of teachers and implemented expensive programs. Now the stimulus money is gone and Texas has to either make up the money for the increased spending or "cut" spending (meaning not increasing spending). As it turned out, they "cut" 4 billion from the education spending. Healthcare costs are problematic, as they are for everyone, but the majority of the "cuts" (62 million) here are to Planned Parenthood, which is a feature, not a bug, IMO. There is also a deliberate shortfall built into the healthcare budget, so that cuts can be made in the future as needed.

Our Constitution requires a balanced budget, and the legislature seems to be achieving this with Perry valiantly keeping their fingers out of the $9 billion rainy day fund.

Overall, Texas is facing a budget crisis, but, IMO it's being handled well under the circumstances and we're still in much better shape than the rest of the country.

120 He better lose--or else I'll do an Alec Baldwin and loudly threaten to move to Canada or something while still reaping the rewards of capitalism and republican democracy here in the States.

Fixed it for you some more.

121

Clearly they didn't get the memo! 

Posted by: MWR at June 22, 2011 10:51 AM (4df7R)

Clearly and.....those look like disposable diapers to me which aren't very environmentally friendly!

122

OMG, what a mental image that creates. Grown adults with diapers, stripping.

Posted by: The Robot Devil at June 22, 2011 10:50 AM (136wp)

Yeah, and the real image is about as appetizing as the imaginary one, even without the stripping. 

123 Looks like Somali pirates got themselves another ship:

http://tinyurl.com/6gskc96

124 Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner said Tuesday that a deal to raise the legal debt limit, which he expects to be completed in the next few weeks, will be only a short-term “down payment” on solving the nation’s debt problem, and that it would be "irresponsible" to reduce the massive federal deficit anticipated over the next ten years with spending cuts alone.
Posted by: momma at June 22, 2011 10:31 AM

What if we all make mistakes like you did on TurboTax, Tim?

125

125 He better lose--or else I'll do an Alec Baldwin and loudly threaten to move to Canada or something while still reaping the rewards of capitalism and republican democracy here in the States, including hinting at a possible candidacy for mayor of the largest city in the country.

FIFY some more more.

 

126 Well, swing choir ain't gonna rehearse itself

127 If the economy continues on its current course, Obama is out before midnight EST on Election Day.

Mmm mmm mmm!

128

Clearly and.....those look like disposable diapers to me which aren't very environmentally friendly!

Posted by: Tami at June 22, 2011 10:53 AM (X6akg)

HAH!  So true!

And if any of them ARE wearing cloth diapers, you can bet they're going to expect someone else to wash them.  *SHUDDER*

129 Your mouth to G-d's ears.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 22, 2011 10:24 AM (Rlz/P)

You're one of them Jooos, aren't you?

That may be my favorite expression.

130 "Because grown adults wearing diapers to protest government funding cuts is the BEST way to prove you're not a leech on the public teat." Could have been worse. Could have been adults dressed as fuzzy lovable stuffed animals.

131 If Obama loses (knock on wood) it will be fascinating to watch the heads of leftists explode as they desperately try to explain away (to themselves most of all) the public's rejection of their destructive and irrational ideas as "racism" or some other equally ridiculous charge. 

The left is not merely wrong in the particulars or wrong in their conclusions, but wrong in their fundamental and unstated premises from which everything else flows.  They get it wrong because they are wrong. 

132 Mike, is there any way I can hop into the movie and dump this kid's books?

133 Well, that naked man protesting confirms what I've always thought...

134 Could have been worse. Could have been adults dressed as fuzzy lovable stuffed animals.

Posted by: George Orwell at June 22, 2011 10:58 AM (AZGON)

Well at least that get the Furry sympathy vote then. 

Are there a lot of Man!Babies in Spain? 

135 Can I interest you in a replacement door?

136 What, me worry?

137 But MSNBC says that the Dem's fear a McLame/Weiner ticket.

138 Well, that naked man protesting confirms what I've always thought...

Posted by: nickless at June 22, 2011 10:59 AM (MMC8r)

That naked men should never, ever protest?

139 142 But MSNBC says that the Dem's fear a McLame/Weiner ticket.

Posted by: Crunch McLargehuge at June 22, 2011 11:01 AM (e8T35)

Yes, they fear there won't be a McLame/Huntman ticket...

140 The left is not merely wrong in the particulars or wrong in their conclusions, but wrong in their fundamental and unstated premises from which everything else flows.  They get it wrong because they are wrong. 

Posted by: Lee Reynolds at June 22, 2011 10:58 AM (5KnyG)

This is so odd, because I was JUST reading an older piece on The Heritage Foundation's site (literally, just a few minutes ago) that deals with this very topic.  It's from 2007, but it could so easily have been written yesterday. 

Regurgitating the Apple: How Modern Liberals "Think"

It was linked over at Blazing Cat Fur

141 I've been feeling very depressed the last few days, but I feel better knowing I'm nowhere near as pathetic as Spanish Diaper Protestors.

142 " In particular one full-frontal of a very unhappy man (who has multiple reasons to be unhappy, if I'm any judge)." I don't get it.

143 I honestly think JEF is as potent a majority maker for the pubics as Clinton was. Maybe two terms is what this country really needs. Nothing like a congressional majority enjoying pulling the wings off a fly just to watch him squirm. Remember NAZI PELOSI in 2007? Also remember Contract with America? Things could be fun on a second term - investigations, embarassments of revealed incompetence. The list is endless. Don't forget the fundraising angle. The downside is USSC nominations, but so far the old left guard doesn't want to let the piker replace them. They are too special.

144 "Because grown adults wearing diapers to protest government funding cuts is the BEST way to prove you're not a leech on the public teat." Maybe they were all headed to the Congressional gym.

145

Posted by: Crunch McLargehuge at June 22, 2011 11:01 AM (e8T35)

Guys, check it out!  I got my dad's Enforcer for the weekend!

(I can't help it.  The MST3K is strong in this thread, ne?)

146 Meanwhile in NJ, Doctors are getting it done...

NEWARK — Attorneys for a New Jersey physicians group are scheduled in court to argue that the recently enacted federal health care law is unconstitutional. The suit by New Jersey Physicians Inc. challenges the health care law's requirement that citizens purchase health care insurance.

147

From Brandon's link:

During normal times, Mr. Chávez dominates Venezuela's airwaves and public space. He is prone to break into television broadcasts of baseball games and Venezuelans' favorite soap operas to opine at length about matters such as local news events and the latest manifestation of U.S. imperialism.

Perhaps following Mr. Castro's advice to get some rest, Mr. Chávez has been noticeably silent about the week's events in Venezuela, where 5,000 troops are fighting to squelch a prison rebellion that so far has taken some 40 lives.

Romer Guevara, a 41-year-old court bailiff, said he didn't have any problem with Chávez governing from Cuba while recuperating. Mr. Guevara, who said he was politically neutral, added there was one thing he is sure he hasn't missed during Chávez's absence. "We don't like those long speeches," Mr. Guevara said. "We get tired of all that talking. He interrupts our shows all the time. He cuts in all the time when I'm watching baseball or a basketball game."

 

Bwhahaha!  I'd prefer if Oblahblah governed from Cuba too.  Oh, and Chavez's mystery "pubic abcess"?  Hmmm....

148 146 I've been feeling very depressed the last few days, but I feel better knowing I'm nowhere near as pathetic as Spanish Diaper Protestors.

Posted by: nickless at June 22, 2011 11:02 AM (MMC8r)

I'm glad I could link you to a bit of moonbat hilarity, nickless.  Be well.

149 That naked men should never, ever protest?

GTFO

150 DOOM:  The CBO stated today that debt will be 190% of GDP by 2035.

151
IF YOU VOTED FOR OBAMA IN 2008 TO PROVE YOU WEREN'T A RACIST, THEN VOTE AGAINST OBAMA IN 2012 AND PROVE YOUR NOT AN IDIOT!
Posted by: Proudvastrightwingconspirator at June 22, 2011 10:35 AM

I beg you, do not put that on a sign or bumper sticker until you fix the punctuation. "YOU'RE," not "YOUR."

152 "He tried to kill me with a forklift!"

153 Woooooo! Somebody stole my purse!

154 Hey, arhooley!  I've been meaning to ask you if you've done any trolling over at the Daily Kos since the Breitbart Netroots contretemps.  I'd love to know what the Kos Kiddies are saying, but I have no stomach for their inanity.

155 155 DOOM:  The CBO stated today that debt will be 190% of GDP by 2035.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at June 22, 2011 11:06 AM (yRL86)

The roof, the roof, the roof is on fire!

156 Do you honestly think that the hard-core lefties won't vote for him come Nov 2012?

There are probably a lot fewer of them than there used to be, now that it's no longer the cool position to have.  And don't forget shame.  How anyone can talk positively about HWMNBN to another sentient being is beyond me.

157 Beck's playing a clip of Al Gore talking about the necessity of ubiquitous fertility management to combat globaloney.  This party can't lose!

158
Those stupid enough to feel entitled to entitlements will be the ones roaming in frenzied zombie-like packs when the trough runs dry

Really, what does happen to these slobs? Do they start dealing drugs? Selling their bodies? Go homeless? Throw themselves on some church charity? Or do they suck it up and get a low-paying job?

159 Eggggscellent...

160

Biff McHardBody:  Listen, Lady-!

Chick:  DOCTOR!

Sledge VanderHuge: Doctor!

Crow: Doctor Lady!

161 "We put our faith in Blast Hardcheese."

162 166 "We put our faith in Blast Hardcheese."

Posted by: B. Hussein Obama at June 22, 2011 11:10 AM (AZGON)

If Obammy were ever actually to say that, I would almost have a penny's worth of potential good feeling for the man. 

163 Really, what does happen to these slobs? Do they start dealing drugs? Selling their bodies? Go homeless? Throw themselves on some church charity? Or do they suck it up and get a low-paying job?

Posted by: arhooley at June 22, 2011 11:10 AM (XPSzQ)

Well, Al Gore has been talking up population control to combat AGW...

164
Hey, arhooley!  I've been meaning to ask you if you've done any trolling over at the Daily Kos since the Breitbart Netroots contretemps.  I'd love to know what the Kos Kiddies are saying, but I have no stomach for their inanity.
Posted by: MWR at June 22, 2011 11:08 AM

Heya MWR. I'm having registration troubles over there. I'm going to try on a different computer.

I've been lurking, though. The Breitbart Netroots thing made a few items but didn't go viral. They're back to fighting the forces of darkness in Wisconsin.

165 When you put your faith in Blast HardCheese, you can never go wrong. BHC 2012!

166 You know what I hate? Spending a lot of the production budget on special effects footage of spacecraft flying around and stuff. You know what I hate even more? Fly-by-night film companies that steal your footage and try to make you think the inside of the steam plant is the deck of a futuristic spaceship.

167

Sting, Debbie Reynolds, and God.

168 Blast HardCheese/Dirk Hardpec 2012

169 Oh hey, they have tacos!

170 Does that postulation have him losing Virginia too, or does that remain undecided? It did have a streak of voting GOP in ten straight presidential races in between 1964 and 2008, but was '08 an outlier there and we're back to usual business in '12?

Northern VA could run Satan as the D candidate and win.  What'll be interesting will be the Hampton Roads area, on the coast.  Bertha Lewis and her ACORN gang have reportedly set up their new ops there -- big time -- but there's also the huge military presence there, who can't be too thrilled with JEF by now.

171 Have to hope for a Republican House and Senate to keep him somewhat in check. Even that might not be enough.

172 Blast HardCheese


I've seen his birth certificate...

173 Northern VA could run Satan as the D candidate and win. ----- ----- ----- ----- You rang?

174 Hmmm...can't decide...

 Barack Obama / Joe Biden in '12....

...or a Suppurating Boil on the Diseased Penis of a Mangy Hyena / Flesh Eating Bacteria

175 Brak/Exeter 2012! "It's the Brak show, starring me I'm Brak! It's the Brak show, we've got lots of great guests!"

176 There, your hands are now magnetized

177 But Obama hasn't had enough time to clean up the mess made by BushyMcChimpingtonHitlerBurton!!11!!! *begins to devour own hand*

178 THATS EXACTLY WHAT I WANT TO LOOK LIKE!!!

179 "He should lose to any Republican with a pulse." Mitt Romney. Jon Huntsman. Tim Pawlenty. See the problem?

180 44 As a concern Christian Conservative who voted for Ronald Reagan and George Bush, it is polls like this one that make me realize that Obama clearly has God on his side and is destined to win, therefore I will be staying home on election night.  We mustn't thwart the will of God. ---------- God created Obama and the Nutroots to train the faithful. One cannot go against the word of God.

181

I'm starting to think that even Palin or Bachmann could do this thing.  They poll a little behind Generic Freeper, but not too much.

182

"He should lose to any Republican with a pulse."

Mitt Romney. Jon Huntsman. Tim Pawlenty. See the problem?

 

Hey, that's not fair. 

 

Not only does Mitt Romney have a pulse, his pulse was generated by the best consultants money could buy and intensively focus-grouped.  Suck on that, pulse hater.

Jon Huntsman doesn't have a pulse, true, but that's just because he's Zombie Charlie Christ.  Back in the days before Rubio put a stake in him, his independent blood beat hot and vigorous, yes sir . . . but only for the ladies.  Very ladyish ladies.  With girl parts and everything.  Vaginas. 

Tim Pawlenty, the nurse fell asleep while trying to take his pulse.

 

183 Jon Huntsman 2012. Because not enough civility is America's real problem.

184 "He should lose to any Republican with a pulse."

Mitt Romney. Jon Huntsman. Tim Pawlenty. See the problem?

To be fair, none of those three have pulses.

185 Obama Has Solid Base of SupportWell, mine is slightly lower, but he's trying...

186
Posted by: In Before the Troll at June 22, 2011 10:38 AM (so1xa)






Thanks for picking up the slack. Got in to the shop late.

187
Please, PLEASE don't throw me onto the 2012 GOP ticket!!!

188 CAC: email me. I need to run something by you. sanderson_2208@ric.edu ty

189  

190 Here's how to win all 50 states:

Michele Bachmann for President... Michael Turner for Vice President.

BACHMANN TURNER OVERDRIVE ON THE BALLOT!

191 I don't think Obama can lose. A few decades of Morgan Freeman, Denis Haysbert, etc. playing Black Presidents has convinced a great lot of Americans that Obama is the movie star, rock star, and living God they've always wanted as President. America could be a nuked out hulk of zombies and mutants and starvation, and America would give him another term.

Blacks, Hispanics, and Asians will all vote for him massively. As will the 3% of America that is Gay, and nearly all Middle Class White women. Only working class Whites (male and female) don't worship Obama as a living god.

So basically, we're screwed.