August 11, 2011
— Ace You might have thought, "Gee, didn't we know that?"
Not exactly; his previous word had been that he would "make his intentions clear." Candidates often pre-announce their announcements. (And re-announce sometimes too.)
That kind of silliness.
So this is news.
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Posted by: joeindc44 at August 11, 2011 11:57 AM (QxSug)
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Posted by: laceyunderalls proficient in pottymouth -- not spelling at August 11, 2011 11:58 AM (pLTLS)
Posted by: Y-not at August 11, 2011 12:00 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Lauren at August 11, 2011 12:02 PM (cVIY5)
Posted by: tasker at August 11, 2011 12:02 PM (14jKX)
And I bet it'll make Barack Obama, who is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure, absolutely weak in the bowel, as it were, when he hears it.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at August 11, 2011 12:03 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: President Chet Roosevelt at August 11, 2011 12:03 PM (zwL7U)
Posted by: Lady in Black at August 11, 2011 12:03 PM (ycuSb)
Posted by: Barack Stuttering Clusterfuck of a Miserable Failure Obama at August 11, 2011 12:04 PM (w89E+)
Posted by: Prince Barry
Besides a growing economy, healthy business climate and respect for the right to bear arms? Plenty.
Posted by: Blue Hen at August 11, 2011 12:04 PM (6rX0K)
Dow closed up 421, utilities are up and gold is down!
But I was right on one thing; volume is down.
Posted by: Vic at August 11, 2011 12:04 PM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: Bob Saget, half hobbit, half honey badger, half teabag at August 11, 2011 12:04 PM (F/4zf)
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at August 11, 2011 12:04 PM (9hSKh)
Posted by: Steve (not Rick) Perry at August 11, 2011 12:04 PM (qvb/m)
My only problem with David Dewhurst for Senate is that he's a lawyer. There are already too many lawyers in the Congress. We don't need more.
Of course, the way things have shaken out, my choices are two lawyers and a man I suspect is more squishy than John McCain, so maybe I'll have to vote for him anyway.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at August 11, 2011 12:04 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 11, 2011 04:03 PM (UOM4
That made no sense. And I'm not drinking.
I meant, is he announcing-announcing.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 11, 2011 12:05 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Barack Sooper Jeanyus Obama at August 11, 2011 12:05 PM (9Pqj2)
Posted by: Winston Wolf at August 11, 2011 12:05 PM (LH6ir)
Posted by: SantaRosaStan at August 11, 2011 12:06 PM (UqKQV)
Posted by: Truman North, TPT at August 11, 2011 12:06 PM (K2wpv)
Also Punitive Damage caps and Loser Pays tort reform. Don't forget those.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at August 11, 2011 12:06 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: ace at August 11, 2011 12:06 PM (nj1bB)
Posted by: Barry O at August 11, 2011 12:07 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: DGH - TUCSON at August 11, 2011 12:07 PM (v/laJ)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 11, 2011 12:07 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at August 11, 2011 12:07 PM (UhTsC)
Maybe a little off topic? Sorry, but it's worth asking.
But finally, a candidate that doesn't completely make my skin crawl. Of course you know what'l happen. Perry and Romney wind up destroying each other allowing one man to sail through and grab the nomination.
That's right.
Ron Paul, baby!
*Runs like hell*
Posted by: Robert at August 11, 2011 12:08 PM (4q6A5)
that's awesome Ace. Glad you'll be down there to cover it.
Do you have a video camera or flip phone?
See if you can get Rick Perry to sign a cup of pudding
Posted by: Ben at August 11, 2011 12:08 PM (wuv1c)
Posted by: ace at August 11, 2011 12:08 PM (nj1bB)
Posted by: Waterhouse at August 11, 2011 12:09 PM (pdCUF)
Isn't that Aja?
Posted by: Steely Dan at August 11, 2011 12:09 PM (LH6ir)
Posted by: ChristyBlinky at August 11, 2011 12:10 PM (FnRYN)
Posted by: ace at August 11, 2011 12:10 PM (nj1bB)
Posted by: DGH - TUCSON
Hey Ace. if you do score that interview with him, here's two interesting topics. Is this true?
Also, will we have to clean up the blog and behave ourselves? Or can we have fun and liveblog your interview? Maybe Iowahawk can do a guest cob-logger spot?
Posted by: Blue Hen at August 11, 2011 12:10 PM (6rX0K)
Posted by: ace at August 11, 2011 04:08 PM (nj1bB)
You'll like Charleston Ace. If you get a chance go down to old Charleston and hit Tommy Condon's.
Posted by: Vic at August 11, 2011 12:10 PM (M9Ie6)
VP______________
Sec. of State John Bolton
Ann Coulter or Laura Ingraham WH spokesperson
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 11, 2011 12:10 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Sharpie Sharpton at August 11, 2011 12:11 PM (4nfy2)
Posted by: David Dewhurst at August 11, 2011 12:11 PM (w89E+)
FIFY
Posted by: Navin R Johnson at August 11, 2011 12:11 PM (qvb/m)
As long as his balls are bigger than Obama's...wait, that's not a very high bar.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 11, 2011 12:11 PM (LH6ir)
Gag, no.
Styx. Definitely Styx.
Or were they more 70's?
Posted by: DGH - TUCSON at August 11, 2011 04:07 PM (v/laJ)
You're a complete and total idiot. Rick Perry is not "Pro-Amnesty" or "Pro-Dream Act."
His stance on Immigration is basically- if you're here to work, and you're not making trouble, we've got bigger fish to fry (I disagree, but it's hardly 'pro-amnesty').
And the bill that people are calling "The DREAM Act" is a bill that says people who were brought here as minor children by their parents, illegally, get in-state tuition rates. Again, not my favorite, but hardly a mortal sin. I don't even completely recall if it got passed- I don't think it did, but I lost track of some of those things, so I might have just missed it.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at August 11, 2011 12:12 PM (8y9MW)
So I guess you'll sit out the general election if Perry is the nominee? Obama being x1000 worse and all.....
Posted by: Lady in Black at August 11, 2011 12:12 PM (ycuSb)
Posted by: izoneguy at August 11, 2011 12:12 PM (i6Neb)
Posted by: DGH - TUCSON
Hey Ace. if you do score that interview with him, here's two interesting topics. Is this true?
Out of all the research I did on him I never found anything that indicated he was FOR either of those things.
What we should all do every time one of these drive-by trolls drops one of these turds is make them provide a link to a primary source.
Posted by: Vic at August 11, 2011 12:12 PM (M9Ie6)
But I'd like to get to know him, yes I would...
OK, the second snippet probably not many here may recognize.
Ace, again, excited for you to go to SC and hope you do get the interview.
Posted by: Theresa D., your favorite TPT, and you know it! at August 11, 2011 12:12 PM (Zgfnd)
Posted by: Bob Saget, half hobbit, half honey badger, half teabag at August 11, 2011 12:13 PM (F/4zf)
Put his Texas Rangers Recon Squad on the border and allowed them to shoot back at the drug slugs shooting at those Rangers from the Mexican side of the border, killing at least two drug slugs.
But get prepared for the Paulbots who will mention:
Gardisil, Merck, TransTexas Corridor, Bildenbergers, yada, yada, yada, all from the 9-11 truther, Alex Jones.
"We'll put a boot in your ass, it's the American Texan way."
Posted by: retire05 at August 11, 2011 12:13 PM (hzv+T)
Posted by: izoneguy at August 11, 2011 12:13 PM (i6Neb)
Posted by: DGH - TUCSON at August 11, 2011 04:07 PM (v/laJ)
Listen to the man, fellow concerned conservatives. He raises valid points.
Posted by: Barack Stuttering Clusterfuck of a Miserable Failure Obama at August 11, 2011 12:13 PM (w89E+)
Wait. Who are are we talking about? I'm confused.
Posted by: Navin R Johnson at August 11, 2011 12:13 PM (qvb/m)
Posted by: Methos waves fondly at the "Sarah!" bandwagon at August 11, 2011 12:13 PM (sOXQX)
yes! like I said earlier I been waiting for a nom that fires me up
i'm officially a Perry guy down here in FL
OT: Romney showed balls in Iowa w/ those idiots, that said I'm still a Perry guy
Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Formerly YRM) At Work at August 11, 2011 12:13 PM (yAor6)
You know why he's announcing in SC?
Because he's going to meet up with Lindsey Graham for drinks later that night if you catch my drift
Posted by: Ben at August 11, 2011 12:13 PM (wuv1c)
Data?*
Also, does someone have the link to the really extensive Perry Myths De-Bunked piece that one of our Texas morons posted in the comments a week or two ago? I'm having trouble finding it again.
*BTW, "data" is defined as primary citations to legislation, speeches, policy pieces, etc, not links to blogs or websites that have an agenda.
Posted by: Y-not at August 11, 2011 12:14 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Quilly Mammoth at August 11, 2011 12:14 PM (+6WBm)
Posted by: Vic at August 11, 2011 04:10 PM (M9Ie6)
Ace is gay?Posted by: Typical disgusting moron at August 11, 2011 12:14 PM (LH6ir)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 11, 2011 12:14 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: ace at August 11, 2011 04:10 PM (nj1bB)
Wasn't it someone here that was speculating that if Perry ran Palin wouldn't? Or was that some other blog.
But then I, uh...don't really read the front page that closely.
Wonder if that makes me eligible for a cob-logging position.
Posted by: Robert at August 11, 2011 12:14 PM (4q6A5)
Posted by: Vic at August 11, 2011 04:12 PM (M9Ie6)
yes we must know how he rates on the all important Vic scale/
Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Formerly YRM) At Work at August 11, 2011 12:15 PM (yAor6)
Don't forget your gaff, ace, hunting is good there this time of year.
No doubt. The humidity in SC makes for good tracking conditions.
Posted by: garrett at August 11, 2011 12:16 PM (9Pqj2)
yes! like I said earlier I been waiting for a nom that fires me up
I'm a Perry gal in Utah.
That said, I'm going to wait a couple of weeks to see if there are any skeletons that would preclude me vocally supporting him here in Utah. Assuming he passes that test (which I expect him to do), I am slapping that bumper sticker on my car and signing up to work for his campaign.
Posted by: Y-not at August 11, 2011 12:16 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: ace at August 11, 2011 12:16 PM (nj1bB)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 11, 2011 12:16 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Y-not at August 11, 2011 04:16 PM (5H6zj)
Utah? the most red state in the union? i'm jeleous
Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Formerly YRM) At Work at August 11, 2011 12:17 PM (yAor6)
Posted by: Ben at August 11, 2011 12:17 PM (wuv1c)
Yeah! What I said!
You know, sometimes I think I'm the only one who sees my comments...
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at August 11, 2011 12:17 PM (8y9MW)
yes we must know how he rates on the all important Vic scale/
Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Formerly YRM) At Work at August 11, 2011 04:15 PM (yAor6)
last Perry thread there was a link.
Posted by: Vic at August 11, 2011 12:17 PM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: ace at August 11, 2011 12:17 PM (nj1bB)
What? You expect us to look through a previous thread? A previous Perry thread? Are you sadistic?
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at August 11, 2011 12:18 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: rabidfox at August 11, 2011 12:18 PM (0Uhcu)
Posted by: Dr Spank at August 11, 2011 12:18 PM (ljuHV)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 11, 2011 12:18 PM (AZGON)
Should be interesting tonight to see the tone of the debate. Civilized? Or another GOP circular firing squad?
All of these Republican candidates should pledge not to attack one another, just go after Obama, there is plenty of ammunition there. Attack him with what you would do to fix the problems he created.
Example: A question about jobs is posed to the debater: Answer with: "During the Obama administration unemployment has doubled since he took office and it looks like it may stay that way due to the inability of the Obama administration to create new jobs. Here is what I would do to immediately create jobs. I would provide a tax credit of 1/2 the first year salary for every new hire for any company, and pay for it by cutting the number of government regulatory departments by 50% in my first year."
Get the idea?
Posted by: Big Bad Ben at August 11, 2011 12:19 PM (wN82N)
Posted by: Ben at August 11, 2011 04:17 PM (wuv1c)
ha! if I thought like that I'd be voting for me, myself, and I
Posted by: Vic at August 11, 2011 04:17 PM (M9Ie6)
guide us w/ your meter
Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Formerly YRM) At Work at August 11, 2011 12:19 PM (yAor6)
Wow, weird how the comments went from #99 to #101 like that.
Posted by: Robert at August 11, 2011 12:19 PM (4q6A5)
Rick Perry pantsed me in the 8th grade.
Posted by: dananjcon
You can pull them back up now. Please.
Posted by: Blue Hen at August 11, 2011 12:19 PM (6rX0K)
Posted by: The Amazing Spider-Man at August 11, 2011 12:19 PM (pdCUF)
Posted by: LizLem at August 11, 2011 12:19 PM (lSuMX)
But, but... he was a Democrat once! - Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at August 11, 2011 04:04 PM (9hSKh)
Darlin', everybody above a certain age in Texas was a Democrat once.....
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth at August 11, 2011 12:19 PM (MXC7a)
I can guarantee this will be a question at tonight's debate.
I just hope Bret Baer, or whomever, sticks to real issues tonight and doesn't turn it into the gimmicky farce that was CNN's debate.
Posted by: Ben at August 11, 2011 12:19 PM (wuv1c)
If anything the lower rungs of candidates should really bow out by now, like Santorum, johnson, Pawlenty, Cain. May as well sweep them out so we can have some debates with some top-tier candidates
Posted by: Arcade Hero at August 11, 2011 12:19 PM (mmHDH)
Right, then.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at August 11, 2011 12:20 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: ace at August 11, 2011 04:10 PM (nj1bB)
If Palin enters the race, Romney wins the GOP nomination and the presidency. If Palin stays out, Perry wins the nomination and presidency.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at August 11, 2011 12:20 PM (UhTsC)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 11, 2011 12:20 PM (lbo6/)
Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at August 11, 2011 12:21 PM (lT/p/)
Neither did I, Vic, and I did look pretty hard.
He signed the (stupid) in-state tuition law that was put into motion before he was Governor -- but he did sign it. That law provides Texas tuition rates for bordering counties in IIRC Oklahoma, some other state(s), and Mexico. It's not really an explicit illegal alien tuition waiver, in other words. Still, not great.
And he - as did others - made a non-committal "it's not for us" sort of statement about Arizona's immigration law. Again, I don't expect governors to critique other states' laws, but I suppose that's a knock on him.
He seems about the same or a little better than my Utah governor on immigration. Could be better but he could be much worse.
Posted by: Y-not at August 11, 2011 12:21 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Laup Nor at August 11, 2011 12:21 PM (+6WBm)
I see the Paulbots are already out in force over Perry. Too bad they back a lunatic who lost all touch of reality a long time ago. And yes, I worked for Dr. Paul's campaign when he was my Congressman and still had some sanity.
So when they start this "I'm a Texan and I will never vote for Perry" crap, remember what that is, CRAP.
As to Palin, I don't think she is going to run. Never did. And she and Perry are tight as ticks. She even campaigned for him against Kay Bailey. Sarah Palin holds too much weight doing what she is doing now. Love that she is restarting her bus tour two days before Obama starts riding in his taxpayer funded bus that he has thrown so many under. Gotta love Sarah's timing.
Posted by: retire05 at August 11, 2011 12:21 PM (hzv+T)
...just when I thought they were starting to wake up...
So...what dos Perry think about our new, un-constitutional, central commitee? aka, Super Congress.
Posted by: Warren Bonesteel at August 11, 2011 12:21 PM (E7Z1r)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at August 11, 2011 04:20 PM (UhTsC)
I agree w/ your analysis but I still think Romney MIGHT still pull it off
Posted by: Vic at August 11, 2011 04:20 PM (M9Ie6)
the almighty meter!
Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Formerly YRM) At Work at August 11, 2011 12:22 PM (yAor6)
Actually Ace, from what I have read Palin and Perry are sort of good political allies if not friends.
It makes sense, Perry announces Saturday. Palin speaks in Iowa 30 minutes later and throws Mittens under the bus for Perry. MSM shits over Palin and starts following her around.
Secretary of Energy Palin oversees the dismantling of said Department during Perry's first term as POTUS.
Posted by: Dick Nixon at August 11, 2011 12:22 PM (kaOJx)
That's my fear as well.
Posted by: Y-not at August 11, 2011 12:22 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Fritz at August 11, 2011 12:22 PM (/ZZCn)
If Palin enters the race, Romney wins the GOP nomination and the presidency. If Palin stays out, Perry wins the nomination and presidency.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at August 11, 2011 04:20 PM
I wouldn't be so sure. If Palin enters, the primary is basically Romney vs. Palin. I'll say that much.
Posted by: arhooley at August 11, 2011 12:22 PM (Jst6Y)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at August 11, 2011 04:17 PM (8y9MW)
You're right, my son. Only ace and I see your comments. No one else gives a shit, and ace only pretends to
Posted by: God at August 11, 2011 12:22 PM (UqKQV)
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at August 11, 2011 12:23 PM (4nfy2)
I'm still leaning toward Bachmann, but there's still a long way between now and the election (though a much shorter distance between now and the NH primary), so I'm open to all options.
Question: would Bachmann make a reasonable VP candidate if Perry DID win the primaries? Or would that be too much like McCain/Palin again (sans the douchebag half of that equation)?
Posted by: MWR, proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at August 11, 2011 12:23 PM (4df7R)
Posted by: Joffen at August 11, 2011 12:23 PM (EPcuy)
Ace is it true that Rick Perry doesn't agree with me 100% on every issue and therefore I should cry about it and declare I will never vote for him?
BenÂ…..you also forgot that the fact he does not agree with you 100% makes him a RINO
It was a cleverly laid trap. I knew the first person to point that omission out was in fact a RINO themselves.
Looks like you've been outed Mallamutt
Posted by: Ben at August 11, 2011 12:23 PM (wuv1c)
I rest my case.
Posted by: Mitt Romney at August 11, 2011 12:24 PM (FkKjr)
Posted by: Dr Spank at August 11, 2011 04:18 PM (ljuHV)
Are you with the pro cancer wing?
Posted by: robtr ban chemjeff peoples front at August 11, 2011 12:24 PM (MtwBb)
Posted by: ace at August 11, 2011 12:24 PM (nj1bB)
Posted by: moki at August 11, 2011 12:24 PM (dZmFh)
Ron Paul himself was pushing the "Perry managed Al Gore's campaign" meme the other day.
Thank God that worthless asswipe is leaving Congress.
Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at August 11, 2011 12:24 PM (lT/p/)
He's almost as good at debate as he is at public speaking. And he's awesome at public speaking.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at August 11, 2011 12:24 PM (8y9MW)
Rick Perry pantsed me in the 8th grade.
Posted by: dananjcon at August 11, 2011 04:15 PM (8ieXv)
He Melvined me......
Posted by: Death at August 11, 2011 12:24 PM (UK9cE)
Posted by: Laura at August 11, 2011 12:25 PM (v6lBF)
Posted by: curious at August 11, 2011 12:25 PM (k1rwm)
Secretary of Energy Palin oversees the dismantling of said Department during Perry's first term as POTUS.
Posted by: Dick Nixon at August 11, 2011 04:22 PM (kaOJx)
Don't stop...DON'T STOP!!!
al-most....there!!!
Posted by: dananjcon at August 11, 2011 12:25 PM (8ieXv)
So when they start this "I'm a Texan and I will never vote for Perry" crap, remember what that is, CRAP.
Outcome? He was elected governor 145 times without their votes.
Math--Paulbots can't do it either.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 11, 2011 12:25 PM (B+qrE)
If you've been lurking with the juicy details about whatever subject but never, ever posted until the moment that special subject came up and you POUNCE with the talking points you've just been waiting to spring on us, just turn off the computer, pick up your check from whatever political sucker of cock is paying you, and go the fuck home and have an alka-seltzer enema.
Posted by: nickless at August 11, 2011 12:25 PM (MMC8r)
But, but... he was a Democrat once! - Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at August 11, 2011 04:04 PM (9hSKh)
Darlin', everybody above a certain age in Texas was a Democrat once.....
And so was Reagan.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 11, 2011 12:26 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: moki at August 11, 2011 12:26 PM (dZmFh)
Posted by: Pon Raul at August 11, 2011 04:25 PM (wuv1c)
yeah just like that former union head Reagan!
Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Perry Guy) At Work at August 11, 2011 12:26 PM (yAor6)
Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at August 11, 2011 12:26 PM (lT/p/)
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Real ones, or the fake ones from the MBM?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative)
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Substantial allegations.
If they smear him with an anti-LDS label and it sticks sufficiently to concern people here, then I would not be comfortable vocally supporting Perry. I might still vote for him, depending on the circumstances, but it would be an untenable position for my family (work-wise) to work for a candidate who was "anti Mormon."
But I am not expecting it. Worst I am expecting is some second-hand association to a preacher who said some nasty things. But I feel that after the Huckabee crapola, I have to brace myself for the possibility.
Posted by: Y-not at August 11, 2011 12:26 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: rabidfox
THAT'S what I want to see. I'm sick and tired of everyone (including our last lame nominee) treating president McClusterfuck with kid gloves. It's time to call him out on his harmful policies. Might even inquire about guns crossing the border during a future debate? Pass the popcorn!
Posted by: Hobbitopoly at August 11, 2011 12:26 PM (h1p5V)
Posted by: Rick Perry at August 11, 2011 12:27 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: arhooley at August 11, 2011 04:22 PM (Jst6Y)
I disagree. Palin and Perry split enough votes to allow Romney the win.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at August 11, 2011 12:27 PM (UhTsC)
Goodbye Tim Pawlenty, it was nice while it lasted.
Posted by: Ben at August 11, 2011 12:27 PM (wuv1c)
Posted by: Dr Spank at August 11, 2011 12:27 PM (ljuHV)
pro amnesty ... all the way
Posted by: DGH - TUCSONIf he is pro-amnesty why did he support the bill to stop sanctuary cities?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 11, 2011 12:28 PM (DEcmU)
Posted by: Dick Nixon at August 11, 2011 12:28 PM (kaOJx)
pro amnesty ... all the way
Posted by: DGH - TUCSON at August 11, 2011 04:23 PM (v/laJ)
Not a primary source. Links regarding "amnesty" do not work
Posted by: Vic at August 11, 2011 12:29 PM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 11, 2011 12:29 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Death at August 11, 2011 04:24 PM (UK9cE)
Sorry to here that Mr. Death that had to hurt. At least you got that cool hoody and scyth thing goin on. Been to London lately?
Posted by: dananjcon at August 11, 2011 12:29 PM (8ieXv)
I heard a rumor that Perry prays. Then, this morning, someone suggested that he was unapologetically "revivalist". I was stunned, I mean, revivalist connotes tents and amens and prayer and, ahem, the south. Then someone started throwing around the word "evangelical". "Evangelize" means to tell people about the gospel. Well, how strange is that? People talking and not about "women's issues" and "rights". This guy appears to be pretty damned far removed from Rules for Radicals and Harvard.
I wonder if he ever had a date before his current spouse?
Posted by: dagny at August 11, 2011 12:29 PM (Wzhc8)
Because shut up, that's why.
Posted by: Tom Tancredo at August 11, 2011 12:29 PM (lT/p/)
Posted by: arhooley at August 11, 2011 04:22 PM (Jst6Y)
I disagree. Palin and Perry split enough votes to allow Romney the win.
There is no winning in Romney whether he wins or looses. He is like a black hole in space that just sucks the meaning from any idea and leaves a big hole of nothing. Thats why he is named Willard.
Posted by: Sub-Tard at August 11, 2011 12:29 PM (0M3AQ)
For all those who harp on the "Texas" Dream Act, they never bother to tell you about Texas vs. Certain Named and Unnamed Alien Children, do they?
You see, these folks would rather Texas just ignore these kids, not requiring them to finish high school, have lived here for at least 3 years and applying for their citizenships. They would rather those kids just turn to gangbanging and running guns to Mexico instead of being productive citizens, paying taxes, that the U.S. government is NOT going to kick out anyway. How stupid can they get?
Posted by: retire05 at August 11, 2011 12:29 PM (hzv+T)
He is weak in that area, but he is not pro-amnesty as accusers say.
Posted by: Vic at August 11, 2011 12:30 PM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 11, 2011 12:30 PM (B+qrE)
So War gets to snark about how she quit again and the rest of us get one less useless department. Sounds like a win-win to me.
Posted by: Methos at August 11, 2011 12:30 PM (sOXQX)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 11, 2011 04:29 PM (UOM4
I'll take one. See if Cafe press can put that together
Posted by: dagny at August 11, 2011 12:30 PM (Wzhc8)
Wait. Who are are we talking about? I'm confused.
Posted by: Navin R Johnson at August 11, 2011 04:13 PM (qvb/m)
Your confused.
I thought the drummer for Led Zeppelin faked his death got plastic surgery and is now speaker of the house.
Posted by: YIKES! at August 11, 2011 12:31 PM (F2lG1)
Posted by: Fritz
We say this because we care.
Posted by: Blue Hen at August 11, 2011 12:31 PM (326rv)
Newt Gingrish is sitting in a room somewhere soaked in 93 octane reaching for a Zippo.
ha, we can only wish.
Seriously though, he'll be fine, he's always guaranteed a job on a think tank, as a traveling speaker or some position in a Republican administration.
Posted by: Ben at August 11, 2011 12:32 PM (wuv1c)
Jeez, I some how had it in my head that Chaffetz had decided. Now I can't remember how I got that impression. Old age!
Orrin seems like a nice man and he did some good work on the judiciary committee back in the day, but he needs to retire. It would be nice if he would retire with some dignity. I *think* Chaffetz can beat him in a primary, although perhaps I'm overly optimistic because the people around here seem to really like him a lot.
Posted by: Y-not at August 11, 2011 12:32 PM (5H6zj)
Hey clingers, I can outpray this Perry dude! Five times a day, in fact!
Posted by: Barack Stuttering Clusterfuck of a Miserable Failure Obama at August 11, 2011 12:32 PM (lT/p/)
Dang it! I knew it!
Wait... you won't see that, will you... hmmmmm.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at August 11, 2011 12:32 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 11, 2011 12:32 PM (jx2j9)
Is Bolton still considering running?
We need the 'stache as Sec. of State. No "re-set" button required.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 11, 2011 12:32 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here)
Go on.
Posted by: Blue Hen at August 11, 2011 12:33 PM (6rX0K)
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at August 11, 2011 04:23 PM (4nfy2)
What's the problem? All I see are delicious freshly picked cherries.
Posted by: Roman Polanski at August 11, 2011 12:33 PM (4q6A5)
Will use said gun.. check.
President Perry!
Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp tea party terrorist at August 11, 2011 04:21 PM (qjUnn)
You know, it occurred to me when I read this that Presidebt Petey, the Commander-in-Chief of the US Armed Forced, has most probably never even handled a gun let alone fired one.
Posted by: beedubya at August 11, 2011 12:33 PM (AnTyA)
That sounds like a better idea in your head than it works in practice.
Posted by: Dick Cheney's Cougar Enveloped Warcock at August 11, 2011 12:34 PM (sOXQX)
Jogs with a gun.... check
i can't get over how cool that is. Not just in principle but logistically. I can barely manage to carry my ipod while jogging, let alone a loaded gun.
Posted by: Ben at August 11, 2011 12:34 PM (wuv1c)
At least this time she'd have a good excuse.
Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at August 11, 2011 12:34 PM (lT/p/)
Posted by: Barry The 0 at August 11, 2011 12:34 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Y-not at August 11, 2011 04:32 PM (5H6zj)
Hatch is a good and honorable man but his time is up, in a state as red as Utah he can and should be primaried to get a more conservative senator
Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Perry Guy) At Work at August 11, 2011 12:35 PM (yAor6)
We need the 'stache as Sec. of State. No "re-set" button required.
Posted by: Jane D'oh
He detonate that thing remotely on January 22 2013. He'd then call Medevev to enquire as to whether he was holding it at the time. He would then apologize if he wasn't.
Posted by: Blue Hen at August 11, 2011 12:35 PM (326rv)
oh nooos...I always read his comments.....
Posted by: curious at August 11, 2011 12:35 PM (k1rwm)
And the Oval is going to need a major do-over. Throw out all the IKEA crap and the prayer rug and make it look presidential again.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 11, 2011 12:35 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 11, 2011 12:35 PM (jx2j9)
Posted by: JEM at August 11, 2011 12:35 PM (o+SC1)
Posted by: Dickie Normous at August 11, 2011 12:36 PM (AnTyA)
What about "primary source" do you not understand?
You remind me of my old students who used to try to pawn off review articles in their scientific citations without every reading the original research.
Posted by: Y-not at August 11, 2011 12:36 PM (5H6zj)
Hatch is a good and honorable man but his time is up, in a state as red as Utah he can and should be primaried to get a more conservative senator
Indeed, he needs to step aside and let Chaffetz take his seat, or run against chaffetz and lose it.
Let Hatch run for congress if he thinks he can't get a job in the private sector.
Posted by: Ben at August 11, 2011 12:36 PM (wuv1c)
Posted by: Oldsailors poet at August 11, 2011 12:36 PM (ZDUD4)
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 11, 2011 12:36 PM (jx2j9)
Posted by: Mrs Rick Perry at August 11, 2011 12:36 PM (ljuHV)
Posted by: Mark Levin at August 11, 2011 12:37 PM (+6WBm)
forced injections for all. Hooray!
(Actually, i might vote for the guy, but I am not accepting the hype that he is the shiny conservative savior.)
Posted by: California Red at August 11, 2011 12:37 PM (7uWb8)
Posted by: Oldsailors poet at August 11, 2011 04:36 PM (ZDUD4)
even better, no czars and no dept of energy!
Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Perry Guy) At Work at August 11, 2011 12:37 PM (yAor6)
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 11, 2011 12:37 PM (jx2j9)
The smell
Posted by: dagny at August 11, 2011 12:38 PM (Wzhc8)
Chrissy Matthews may swallow a bottle of pills and Scotch on air.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 11, 2011 12:38 PM (UOM48)
Those dumbasses. Everyone knows you should use Wikipedia for your source.
Posted by: Today's Students at August 11, 2011 12:38 PM (lT/p/)
Posted by: Oldsailors poet at August 11, 2011 12:38 PM (ZDUD4)
Thanks for posting that. Chaffetz is my congressman, it sucks he might leave his post in that regard (hopefully a Chris Cannon-bot won't take his place) but it would be completely awesome to have him and Mike Lee as Senators here.
Posted by: Arcade Hero at August 11, 2011 12:38 PM (mmHDH)
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 11, 2011 12:38 PM (jx2j9)
Posted by: retire05 at August 11, 2011 04:29 PM (hzv+T)
Your concern is deeply concerning and as a concerned Christian Conservaitve I would like to offer you a bit of advice for the safety of your future.
Stock up fella!
Posted by: dananjcon at August 11, 2011 12:38 PM (8ieXv)
Posted by: Some random son of a coyote shot by Rick Perry at August 11, 2011 12:39 PM (61BD9)
"We must never forget that on 9/11/2001 nineteen peaceful Arabs carrying nothing for protection but workmens tools were killed in a private sector aircraft by explosive bomb like fossil-fuels after being assaulted in mid air by the Twin Towers, an international icon of capitalism."
-Barak Obama
(9/11/2002 Washington Elementary speech to 3rd grade class)
Posted by: Shiggz at August 11, 2011 12:39 PM (v8Pb8)
Is Bolton still considering running?
We need the 'stache as Sec. of State. No "re-set" button required.
Posted by: Jane D'oh
This please. Yes please. Can you imagine the 'Stache going in and overhauling Hillary's SecState offices? Goodbye bland Martha Stewart earth tones, hello pair of crossed broadswords on the wall.
Posted by: MWR, proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at August 11, 2011 12:39 PM (4df7R)
Posted by: Mark Levin at August 11, 2011 04:37 PM (+6WBm)
Get off the blog you big dope!
Posted by: Rick By-God Perry at August 11, 2011 12:39 PM (lT/p/)
It should be noted that I think this will be Perry's weak spot for conservatives- - Texans tend to have a different relationship with the border than other states.
I agree with you, but I don't think it will be a death knell for him.
And it's not just Texas. It's a regional thing. We have that problem here in Utah.
I'm opposed to any form of amnesty -- and I'm not even sure I'd like to see a guest worker program -- but it is a lot different talking about that in theory from some state that doesn't have a lot of illegals than it is talking about solutions when you're living with the problem day in and day out. It just is. I've lived all over and it is a different kettle of fish in CA or UT or TX than it is in MD or VT or MA or even IL.
Posted by: Y-not at August 11, 2011 12:39 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 11, 2011 12:39 PM (AZGON)
That's not even to mention the shredders and parking-lot burn-bin sessions that'll be going nonstop at DOJ, EPA, etc. from the minute the results of the election are clear. My guess is they'll start long before that if it looks like a thorough stomping.
Posted by: JEM at August 11, 2011 12:40 PM (o+SC1)
Posted by: Dick Nixon at August 11, 2011 12:40 PM (kaOJx)
Posted by: ace at August 11, 2011 12:40 PM (nj1bB)
Posted by: Theresa D., your favorite TPT, and you know it! at August 11, 2011 12:40 PM (Zgfnd)
RICK PERRY IS AN UNFROZEN CAVEMAN LAWYER!
Posted by: nickless at August 11, 2011 12:41 PM (MMC8r)
so far, he tells me, none of the republicans are a reagan.
i then said, woah, I love thaddeur mccotter and guiliani and christie and bachman and, as the economy gets worse, mittens is even starting to look decent.
but dad says "so far there is no reagan".
Posted by: curious at August 11, 2011 12:41 PM (k1rwm)
forced injections for all. Hooray!
Weak tea, dude. Try again.
to be fair, the bill was originally worded in a way that implied all injections were to be made with his dick. That was the last time they let Perry write a bill himself.
Posted by: Ben at August 11, 2011 12:41 PM (wuv1c)
See if you can get Rick Perry to sign a cup of pudding
Posted by: Ben at August 11, 2011 04:08 PM (wuv1c)
My vote would be a lock.
Posted by: baldilocks at August 11, 2011 12:41 PM (T2/zQ)
Posted by: Barbarian at August 11, 2011 12:41 PM (EL+OC)
Posted by: dagny at August 11, 2011 12:41 PM (Wzhc8)
"Because I'll rip your head off and shit in your neck if you do."
Refreshing.
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 11, 2011 12:41 PM (jx2j9)
Posted by: Today's Students at August 11, 2011 04:38 PM (lT/p/)
And don't bother to change the formatting or anything. Just copy/paste straight from Wikipedia, hyperlinks and all.
Posted by: Some more of today's brightest young minds at August 11, 2011 12:41 PM (4df7R)
Posted by: Bob Saget, half hobbit, half honey badger, half teabag at August 11, 2011 12:41 PM (F/4zf)
Perry enters the race running 2nd and ALMOST polling as good as Mittens against Obama even though he hasn't announced and gotten known.
the libs look ready to paint him as some confederate warrior which makes no sense since the confederates were Dems lol
Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Perry Guy) At Work at August 11, 2011 12:42 PM (yAor6)
Posted by: TOTUS at August 11, 2011 12:42 PM (326rv)
We would actually have to get rain in Texas to find out.
There's a story of a Texas farmer, old and weathered, looking out at his withering crops. He looks to heaven and prays, "Lord, please send some rain. Not so much for myself, 'cause I've seen it, but for my 8 year old grandson."
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at August 11, 2011 12:42 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Some random son of a coyote shot by Rick Perry at August 11, 2011 04:39 PM (61BD9)
I must inquire ... do you have hair that does not move?
A man whose hair does not move keelled my father.
Posted by: Coyote Channeling Inigo Montoya at August 11, 2011 12:42 PM (bjRNS)
The first time you get some real shit, do it. It's not like you're getting it twice, anyway.
Palin and Perry split enough votes to allow Romney the win.
Perry and Romney have overlapping fanbases, too, so that three-way would split about evenly—until the ladies, who are anyone-but-Palin, picked a favorite between Romney and Perry. Based on their hair.
Romney's 'do is more "dad's friend who touched my butt at the pool," and Perry's is more "guy I banged on vacation because he said he was a dolphin doctor but it turns out he works in a scuba shop," so Romney'd win.
Posted by: oblig. at August 11, 2011 12:43 PM (xvZW9)
so far, he tells me, none of the republicans are a reagan.
i then said, woah, I love thaddeur mccotter and guiliani and christie and bachman and, as the economy gets worse, mittens is even starting to look decent.
but dad says "so far there is no reagan".
Posted by: curious at August 11, 2011 04:41 PM (k1rwm)
Your dad is evidence that intelligence is indeed genetic.
Posted by: ...--...--... at August 11, 2011 12:43 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 11, 2011 12:43 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: Curious, Sr. at August 11, 2011 12:43 PM (lT/p/)
Posted by: DGH - TUCSON at August 11, 2011 12:44 PM (v/laJ)
If you can get Perry to hold the pudding cup, I'll throw $100 in the tip jar (said kinda nervously).
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 11, 2011 12:44 PM (UOM48)
Ace, couldn't one make the same claim about Rubio's experience level? I'm cool with either one though. Can't call either one a RINO under any circumstance.
Posted by: Dick Nixon at August 11, 2011 12:44 PM (kaOJx)
Posted by: Bob Saget, half hobbit, half honey badger, half teabag
And I can't wait to organize a moving party. Instead of a bus tour, we can show up at their homes with moving vans and offer to help them pack their trash and leave. It would make a great TV series.
Posted by: Have your agent call my agent; they'll do lunch at August 11, 2011 12:44 PM (6rX0K)
You do know that, right....
Sad T-Mac
Posted by: T-Mac at August 11, 2011 12:44 PM (+6WBm)
That Stevie Ray Vaughn song about flooding in Texas?
It was written in 1958.
I'm not sure Stevie actually saw rain before he died.
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at August 11, 2011 12:44 PM (bjRNS)
"I would like to announce that I have named ... as my Ambassador to the United Nations. You may notice that he is, by training, a civil engineer. His responsibility will be to ensure that the United Nations is removed from US soil in a professional and environmentally-sensitive manner. "
Fat chance, of course, but I can dream...
Posted by: JEM at August 11, 2011 12:45 PM (o+SC1)
Posted by: Your Inner Voice, the one that hates you at August 11, 2011 12:45 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 11, 2011 12:45 PM (AZGON)
Chrissy Matthews may swallow a bottle of pills and Scotch on air.
Hell, that's how I plan on celebrating!
Posted by: Navin R Johnson at August 11, 2011 12:45 PM (qvb/m)
Posted by: blaster at August 11, 2011 12:46 PM (l5dj7)
Posted by: Barbarian at August 11, 2011 04:41 PM (EL+OC)
who's your candidate?
and btw illegal immigration fell under Dubya believe it or not (I know I didn't believe it at first)
Posted by: curious at August 11, 2011 04:41 PM (k1rwm)
ah another so convenient story about someone you know,
Reagan was Reagan, they're won't be another one like him. We need someone who'll have Reagan and Collidge's policies
Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Perry Guy) At Work at August 11, 2011 12:46 PM (yAor6)
Posted by: Oldsailors poet at August 11, 2011 12:46 PM (ZDUD4)
Posted by: t-bird at August 11, 2011 12:46 PM (FcR7P)
Your dad is evidence that intelligence is indeed genetic.
Posted by: ...--...--... at August 11, 2011 04:43 PM (GULKT)
I'll tell you now, if it's palin or perry I promise to actively campaign against them.
I don't want another Texan period. I don't care who he thinks he is. I read an article that said he doesn't join races unless he's going to win. That is even more self centered than the current occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
palin cause I just don't want to hear the MSM whine about how she believes in abstinence and failed in her own family. I want to be spared that one.
Posted by: curious at August 11, 2011 12:46 PM (k1rwm)
Posted by: Rick Perry at August 11, 2011 12:47 PM (ljuHV)
Seems to me that, if he gains the national stage, he's in the perfect position to be a conduit for Hispanics in relaying the message of freedom, individualism, entrepreneurship, prosperity vs. the slavery of liberalism and big nanny state government. I'd imagine that he's well enough liked in TX to be reelected as much as he has been...and he needed Hispanic support to get there. Now he needs to take that message roadshow across the country and reach the rest of American Hispanics...a group that the left thinks they have a pretty solid lock on.
Posted by: Lady in Black at August 11, 2011 12:47 PM (ycuSb)
That Stevie Ray Vaughn song about flooding in Texas?
It was written in 1958.
I'm not sure Stevie actually saw rain before he died.
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at August 11, 2011 04:44 PM (bjRNS)
Yes, but when it does rain, it gets the job done for a year or two.
I'm originally from League City and I've seen some frog stranglers.
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 11, 2011 12:47 PM (jx2j9)
Then you are objectively pro-Obama. Congratulations on that.
Posted by: Slublog at August 11, 2011 12:47 PM (0nqdj)
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at August 11, 2011 12:47 PM (bjRNS)
Posted by: LizLem at August 11, 2011 12:48 PM (lSuMX)
Posted by: Barbarian at August 11, 2011 04:41 PM (EL+OC)
who's your candidate?
Anyone that won't call me a racist directly or by proxy because I believe Illegals are well, Illegal.
Posted by: Barbarian at August 11, 2011 12:48 PM (EL+OC)
Then, don't go to Texas at that time of the month! Problem solved!
Posted by: Theresa D., your favorite TPT, and you know it! at August 11, 2011 12:48 PM (Zgfnd)
Posted by: ace at August 11, 2011 04:40 PM (nj1bB)
Not to belabor the point, ace, but in that case, wouldn't Bachmann as VP be beneficial? For one, it would give her an opportunity to gain some executive branch experience without the pressure of being the actual POTUS. And it would, I think, hold onto a lot of dyed in the wool conservatives who are going to look at Perry's "HPV vaccine" and "in-state tuition for illegals" stances and see "RINO!!!" A lot of very conservative voters are really only now getting involved in the voting process, and they're feeling snakebit. They don't want to give an inch because government has always shown that they'll take a mile. I can't dismiss those concerns, either, but I'll bite the bullet if I have to.
Though if Rubio were to agree to be VP, I'd be on that train so fast, my shoes would catch fire.
Posted by: MWR, proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at August 11, 2011 12:48 PM (4df7R)
Posted by: Slublog at August 11, 2011 04:47 PM (0nqdj)
nope, I'm thinking that either ron paul or trump will run if it's perry or palin, thinking they have a chance.
Posted by: curious at August 11, 2011 12:48 PM (k1rwm)
The eye of Alicia went right over my house.
My idiot neighbors went out and folded a parachute during the eye.
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at August 11, 2011 12:48 PM (bjRNS)
Perry is PRO Amnesty, PRO Dream Act (the Federal one) and he wants to force vaccinations for cervical cancer on 12 year olds. Period.
Posted by: DGH - TUCSON at August 11, 2011 12:48 PM (v/laJ)
Shut the fuck up, you clueless fucking retard.
Posted by: Waterhouse at August 11, 2011 12:49 PM (pdCUF)
Posted by: Jarrod at August 11, 2011 12:49 PM (obgI7)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 11, 2011 12:49 PM (lbo6/)
Posted by: blaster at August 11, 2011 12:49 PM (l5dj7)
"palin cause I just don't want to hear the MSM whine about how she believes in abstinence and failed in her own family. I want to be spared that one."
Well, we all know your feelings must be respected. Dufus.
Posted by: Dick Nixon at August 11, 2011 12:50 PM (kaOJx)
Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at August 11, 2011 12:50 PM (lT/p/)
Neither of them do. So again, you would contribute to a second term for Obama by voting for either of them.
Posted by: Slublog at August 11, 2011 12:50 PM (0nqdj)
Where's Ron Paul from again, YOU FUCKING IMBECILE?
Posted by: Waterhouse at August 11, 2011 12:50 PM (pdCUF)
Posted by: IreneFingIrene at August 11, 2011 12:50 PM (JKe0g)
Posted by: Quilly Mammoth at August 11, 2011 12:50 PM (+6WBm)
Rick Perry would never have a longhorn as a pet. That' the t.u. mascot. He'd have a collie. Heck, I think it would be hilarious if he asked TAMU if he could have Reveille when this next one retires.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at August 11, 2011 12:50 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: curious at August 11, 2011 04:46 PM (k1rwm)
so basically you want a New Yorker
so if it's b/w Obama or Perry/Palin
who you vote for?
Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Perry Guy) At Work at August 11, 2011 12:50 PM (yAor6)
nope, I'm thinking that either ron paul or trump will run if it's perry or palin, thinking they have a chance.
Posted by: curious at August 11, 2011 04:48 PM (k1rwm)
Ron Paul is a Texan you idiot.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 11, 2011 12:51 PM (FkKjr)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 11, 2011 04:44 PM (UOM4
----
I'm in on that, too.
Really. And I'm brok'ish.
Posted by: Y-not at August 11, 2011 12:51 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 11, 2011 12:51 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: bret bear and naked at August 11, 2011 12:51 PM (kKWmw)
We'll be bathing in pudding and victory!
Posted by: sifty of the Irish Breakfast Insurgency at August 11, 2011 12:51 PM (ECjvn)
In that case I would do a "write in" vote.
Posted by: curious at August 11, 2011 12:51 PM (k1rwm)
Posted by: Truman North, TPT at August 11, 2011 12:52 PM (K2wpv)
For the purpose suggested, he might make an exception.
(That said, I like the Reveille idea.)
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at August 11, 2011 12:52 PM (bjRNS)
Posted by: Truman North, TPT at August 11, 2011 12:52 PM (K2wpv)
Bite me, bigot.
Posted by: Meiczyslaw
To be fair, if it's like everything else, a Texan period could be lethal.
Posted by: midol the size of a manhole cover at August 11, 2011 12:52 PM (6rX0K)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 11, 2011 12:52 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: Oldsailors poet at August 11, 2011 12:53 PM (ZDUD4)
Posted by: DGH - TUCSON at August 11, 2011 04:43 PM (v/laJ)
Still not a primary source and still does not show support for amnesty or dream act.
Posted by: Vic at August 11, 2011 12:53 PM (M9Ie6)
OK, there's some incentive right there... unless "campaigning" is just hanging out at AoSHQ all day posting links to pron and Media Matters.
Posted by: Y-not at August 11, 2011 12:53 PM (5H6zj)
>Then, don't go to Texas at that time of the month! Problem solved!
Posted by: Theresa D.,
Hah! For that you get a dong pic (it may take an hour to load).
Posted by: Rick Perry at August 11, 2011 12:53 PM (ljuHV)
Posted by: curious at August 11, 2011 04:51 PM (k1rwm)
someone save this comment, NOW. this comment must be shown every time she speaks. she would take 4 more years of Obama over Perry or Palin. gfo Curious, we don't need you on this blog if you don't want to defeat one of the worst Presidents ever
Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Perry Guy) At Work at August 11, 2011 12:54 PM (yAor6)
Posted by: midol the size of a manhole cover at August 11, 2011 04:52 PM (6rX0K)
Hey, hey, hey. Don't do that to me. It looks like I'm the one who said, "I don't want another Texan period." Use that B button to offset one of them quotes.
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at August 11, 2011 12:54 PM (bjRNS)
More proof that Utah voters did the right thing last year, IMHO.
Where are you in the state LizLem? Provo? Salt Lake? Elsewhere?
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at August 11, 2011 12:54 PM (VZ10+)
DGH-TUSCON is PRO Child Pron, PRO Marxism, and wants to force people to marry toads. Period.
See? It's just as factual.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at August 11, 2011 12:54 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Lady in Black at August 11, 2011 12:54 PM (ycuSb)
Posted by: blaster at August 11, 2011 12:55 PM (l5dj7)
nope, I'm thinking that either ron paul or trump will run if it's perry or palin, thinking they have a chance.
Posted by: curious at August 11, 2011 04:48 PM (k1rwm)
Ooooooo, you're gonna get fiiillltteeerrreedd.
Posted by: nickless at August 11, 2011 12:55 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: rdbrewer at August 11, 2011 04:46 PM (8rLwW
Yup! cocked and loaded!
Posted by: Jim Mcgreevy at August 11, 2011 12:55 PM (8ieXv)
We're all in Iowa getting our ID's fixed. They don't seem to have internet here.
Posted by: Sarek, Ronulan Ambassador at August 11, 2011 12:55 PM (sOXQX)
Actually, he and Ted Nugent are good friends.
So, here ya go.
Posted by: mpurinTexas - needs a cigarette at August 11, 2011 12:55 PM (ignDe)
Posted by: midol the size of a manhole cover at August 11, 2011 04:52 PM (6rX0K)
Hey, hey, hey. Don't do that to me. It looks like I'm the one who said, "I don't want another Texan period." Use that B button to offset one of them quotes.
Posted by: Meiczyslaw
Sorry about that, but calm down, take a pill. me for instance.
Posted by: midol the size of a manhole cover at August 11, 2011 12:56 PM (326rv)
Posted by: curious at August 11, 2011 12:56 PM (k1rwm)
Obama thanks curious so much for her support in New York, that's why your state is the way it is NY b/c people like curious are the types who claim to be against Obama
oh noes! I might get filtered!
Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Curious Would Vote Against Perry Or Palin Even Against Obama) at August 11, 2011 12:57 PM (yAor6)
Posted by: New York Voter Struggling Over Her Write-In Ballot at August 11, 2011 12:58 PM (lT/p/)
Trump? He's already been made to look like a clown by Obama once over the birth certificate then Barry abused him at the Press Corp dinner.
Trump is on the couch in the Green Room with Gingrich, looking for a gig.
Posted by: Dick Nixon at August 11, 2011 12:58 PM (kaOJx)
I want to know how Perry would handle the illegal immigration issue on a national scale. I agree that illegal immigration is a different animal in border states than it is for states like mine (despite those damn Canadians who come down here and talk all French and shit). But at least part of that is due to the federal government's utter disregard for its own immigration laws. States like Arizona and Texas have to do what they have to do to try and get a handle on the number of illegals who enter their states, and also the illegals who are already entrenched. If that means providing in-state tuition to prevent many of those illegals from simply turning to a life of crime, okay. I don't like it and I don't agree with it, but NH is not Texas.
But as President, Perry would be able to influence immigration enforcement at the national level. In that case, I would want to know that he was intent on tightening the borders, upping enforcement in the most affected areas, speedily deporting arrested illegals and trying to ensure they were not allowed to re-enter the country at a later date, and NOT in any way advocating for amnesty of any sort. As President he would have the power to make these things top priorities.
The rest of the country doesn't want or necessarily need Texas-style provisions for their illegal populations; we want a hammer. I think Perry can give us that, but he's going to have to convince a lot of people that this is the case.
Posted by: MWR, proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at August 11, 2011 12:58 PM (4df7R)
You're a tedious bigot. No one gives a flying fuck what appeals to you.
Posted by: Waterhouse at August 11, 2011 12:58 PM (pdCUF)
Now get back to that giant bag of Cheetos and Diet Coke.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 11, 2011 12:58 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Curious Would Vote Against Perry Or Palin Even Against Obama) at August 11, 2011 12:58 PM (yAor6)
Posted by: Oldsailors poet at August 11, 2011 04:36 PM (ZDUD4)
Better yet. Give her a dual appointment. Sec. of Energy and the EPA. And, yes, leave her alone and let her dismantle both of them. Then she can move on to the Dept. of Education and so on and so on.
Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at August 11, 2011 12:58 PM (B497t)
Are you at the U because the folks I know in Utah higher ed really like Chaffetz.
I have heard a fair amount of criticism of Mike Lee from business people and I have also heard some chagrin about losing Bennett's ability to bring home Federal money. I wasn't here before the primary so I didn't form an impression of Bennett, but since that time from what I've observed (and heard) I'd say he has forgotten his Utah roots more than Hatch has (even though Orrin is too Beltway for my taste).
I have a negative impression of Mike Lee. He just doesn't seem that bright to me or effective. More of an ideologue. But it was probably time to lose Bennett anyway.
Posted by: Y-not at August 11, 2011 12:58 PM (5H6zj)
We'll know how serious Perry is about winning when we see who he hires for the campaign.
If anyone even remotely affiliated with McCain's campaign signs on, we'll know he won't win.
Those back-biting nail salon sissies make Frum look like Patton.
And rumor has it that Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of miserable failure.
Posted by: sifty of the Irish Breakfast Insurgency at August 11, 2011 12:58 PM (ECjvn)
So you are going to need someone that does appeal to me. I know, coming from NY, you guys say my vote really doesn't count. But I can still make my voice heard and pass along what i'm hearing from other independents.
Oy Vey!
Posted by: Sub-Tard at August 11, 2011 12:58 PM (0M3AQ)
Posted by: Quilly Mammoth at August 11, 2011 12:59 PM (+6WBm)
I don't want another Texan
period. I don't care who he thinks he is. I read an article that said
he doesn't join races unless he's going to win. That is even more self
centered than the current occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
palin
cause I just don't want to hear the MSM whine about how she believes in
abstinence and failed in her own family. I want to be spared that one.
Posted by: curious at August 11, 2011 04:46 PM (k1rwm)
No! Self centered politicians! What is the world coming to when our politicians are self-centered? The fucking humanity!!!!!!
Posted by: Roman Polanski at August 11, 2011 12:59 PM (4q6A5)
Posted by: Wooga at August 11, 2011 12:59 PM (Cdq5A)
Posted by: Methos, who agrees Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure, is distracted at August 11, 2011 12:59 PM (sOXQX)
Let's not do that. Let's get a VP candidate who is not in congress, or lets make sure we get one from a State we can absolutely guarantee another conservative winds up in the spot after they leave.
But the best way to do is get an ex-governor who is not in office at the present time.
Posted by: Vic at August 11, 2011 12:59 PM (M9Ie6)
So you are going to need someone that does appeal to me.
Like Reagan?
See, if we have a candidate that does the right things and articulates conservatism successfully, indepedents people who can't make up their minds will indeed make up their minds.
Posted by: Truman North, TPT at August 11, 2011 12:59 PM (K2wpv)
For the purpose suggested, he might make an exception.
(That said, I like the Reveille idea.)
---
It's about time we have a collie in the White House!
Posted by: Y-not's collie at August 11, 2011 01:00 PM (5H6zj)
(I keep watching, hoping I'll see Dana Perino punch him in the face on-air.)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 11, 2011 01:01 PM (UOM48)
Oh piss off. You commies in New York are sending your electors for Obama and everyone knows it.
Posted by: Methos, who agrees Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure, is distracted at August 11, 2011 01:01 PM (sOXQX)
palin cause I just don't want to hear the MSM whine about how she believes in abstinence and failed in her own family. I want to be spared that one.
Posted by: curious at August 11, 2011 04:46 PM (k1rwm
Curious, I am concerned about the fact that you will have to sit through more MFM floggings of SP. How can I help you in these moments of hand wringing?
Posted by: dananjcon at August 11, 2011 01:01 PM (8ieXv)
Posted by: NYC Mosquito With Compound Eyes at August 11, 2011 01:01 PM (lT/p/)
Wait a tic.....does curious remind anyone of PalinSteele? Same silly nonsense and complete lack of self awareness.
Dum Dum?....zat you?
Posted by: eleven at August 11, 2011 01:01 PM (7DB+a)
I'll tell you now, if it's palin or perry I promise to actively campaign against them.
I don't want another Texan period. I don't care who he thinks he is. I read an article that said he doesn't join races unless he's going to win. That is even more self centered than the current occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
palin cause I just don't want to hear the MSM whine about how she believes in abstinence and failed in her own family. I want to be spared that one.
Posted by: curious at August 11, 2011 04:46 PM (k1rwm)
Go suck Donald Trump's cock some more troll. So much for your "filter" too.
Posted by: buzzion at August 11, 2011 01:02 PM (GULKT)
Hopefully, Perry grinds to hault before the Primaries. This is Romney's race to lose.....and rightfully so!
The country isn't ready fo GW Bush 2.0!
Posted by: Otto Von AssGas at August 11, 2011 01:02 PM (JMsOK)
Posted by: polynikes at August 11, 2011 01:03 PM (1hMOs)
Posted by: Waterhouse at August 11, 2011 01:03 PM (pdCUF)
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at August 11, 2011 01:03 PM (kG75t)
That is kind of an open question. The only thing I can say about it is that he has (repeatedly) called on the Federal Government to crack down on border security and illegal immigration. He believes (with some justification) that those are things the Federal Government should be doing (which is why he's not so big on them as Governor). I hope this means he would insist on finishing the fence, really enforcing immigration law, and killing any hope of amnesty. I wish I could say for sure that's what he'd do, but I can't.
Ace, you might ask him about that if you get your interview.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at August 11, 2011 01:03 PM (8y9MW)
This means:
1. Social cons will hate him because he won't nationalize moral issues (unless authorized by constitutional amendment);
Posted by: Wooga
I disagree. This social con wants to see someone actually focus on our economy and our horrible finances. Taking an axe to Planned parenthood and shutting down bullshit lawsuits would be a great way for Perry to make social cons and so-called fiscal cons very happy.
Posted by: Blue Hen at August 11, 2011 01:03 PM (326rv)
Posted by: Oldsailors poet at August 11, 2011 01:03 PM (ZDUD4)
This is not true.
There is a Texas "Dream" act passed like ten years ago. IT IS NOT THE SAME LAW AS THE FEDERAL BILL LABLED "THE DREAM ACT."
The FEDERAL DREAM ACT is an amnesty bill.
"The Texas Dream Act" as it is called is not about amnesty at all. It is about allowing illegals to get in-state tuition.
Now, you may object to that (I don't like that), but it is ignorant and incorrect to claim that the Texas Dream act = the federal bill called the Dream act.
They just use the same word.
So drop that bullshit. Posted by: ace at August 11, 2011 04:16 PM
Ace, The Texas DREAM Act was actually about my Rick. Hair, chiseled face, deep voice, boots, .380 and virile. What else could a woman want?
PS: Maybe we could find some time for me to experience your ewokian sex dance?
A
Posted by: Anita Perry at August 11, 2011 01:04 PM (KYE7u)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 11, 2011 01:04 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: mpurinTexas - needs a cigarette at August 11, 2011 04:55 PM (ignDe)
Uncle Nuge is a favorite adopted son, but Stranglehold is more fitting for late in the general when all-signs are Victory
Posted by: phreshone at August 11, 2011 01:04 PM (T3vCe)
Posted by: Breaker19 at August 11, 2011 01:05 PM (WCm02)
I use to think curious was a young, ignorant, but right-minded soul that needed guidance and was in the right path, and I defende her. Now w/ the filter crap, the selfish bitches rant, the disgust towards fellow moronettes, and now this BS that we giveher the nom she wants or her all "important" vote won't go to us, I officially think we can brand curious an unwanted troll
...maybe we should filter her out?
and oh I apologize to anyone who was pissed w/ me when I tried defending her
and Curious, my vote matters because unlike you I live in all important swing state
and..okay i'm done
Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Curious Would Vote Against Perry Or Palin Even Against Obama) at August 11, 2011 01:05 PM (yAor6)
Posted by: Vyceroy at August 11, 2011 01:06 PM (mqy6N)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 11, 2011 01:06 PM (lbo6/)
What we need is more government spending! All economists agree, the law of supply and demand is wrong"
- The Five (not to be confused with romper room)
Posted by: Juan Williams, economist at August 11, 2011 01:06 PM (eXQfZ)
Posted by: Dick Nixon at August 11, 2011 01:06 PM (kaOJx)
Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Curious Would Vote Against Perry Or Palin Even Against Obama) at August 11, 2011 01:06 PM (yAor6)
Posted by: Breaker19 at August 11, 2011 01:06 PM (WCm02)
I'll tell you now, if it's palin or perry I promise to actively campaign against them.
Posted by: curious at August 11, 2011 04:46 PM (k1rwm)
So you promise to activiely campaign for Barack Obama in the middle of New York, a Blue state that NO ONE is counting on flipping in 2012?
Hey guys. We can now positively ID curious now. He/she/it will be the only person in NY shilling for Obama.
Posted by: Blue Hen at August 11, 2011 01:06 PM (326rv)
and oh I apologize to anyone who was pissed w/ me when I tried defending her
and Curious, my vote matters because unlike you I live in all important swing state
and..okay i'm done
Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Curious Would Vote Against Perry Or Palin Even Against Obama) at August 11, 2011 05:05 PM (yAor6)
No apology necessary. I used to do the same thing. Even gave her the recipe for our son's favorite banana bread.
Yep. She's a troll all right.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 11, 2011 01:07 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: cherry π at August 11, 2011 01:07 PM (OhYCU)
Posted by: Dick Nixon at August 11, 2011 05:06 PM (kaOJx)
Rubio or West be nice
T-Paw more VP material then Presidential
Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Curious Would Vote Against Perry Or Palin Even Against Obama) at August 11, 2011 01:07 PM (yAor6)
But I can still make my voice heard and pass along what i'm hearing from other independents.
Posted by: curious at August 11, 2011 04:56 PM (k1rwm)
They think you're a stupid fuckwit too. Afterall you don't like Perry because he's from Texas but have on multiple occasions praised Ron Paul.
Now, don't you need to accuse us all of hoping Laura Ingram gets mugged or something?
Posted by: buzzion at August 11, 2011 01:07 PM (GULKT)
I dont see...Sorry I don't.
Eyesight poor?
Palms a little furry?
Perhaps it's time to give the ghosts a break?
Posted by: garrett at August 11, 2011 01:07 PM (MWdAl)
Posted by: polynikes at August 11, 2011 01:07 PM (1hMOs)
Posted by: Spiker at August 11, 2011 01:08 PM (4t9J5)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 11, 2011 05:04 PM (UOM4
Juan Williams is a lot easier to take than Beckel. I can not stand Beckel at all. He literally makes me want to puke.
Posted by: Vic at August 11, 2011 01:08 PM (M9Ie6)
As he's a lawyer, too, why him over Dewhurst? If I may ask.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at August 11, 2011 01:08 PM (8y9MW)
Good luck on a Chaffetz replacement, if it gets to that point; as red as Utah is, we have a billion shades of it. Hopefully you get someone decent.
Which begs the question: if Perry won the presidency, who would be most likely to replace him as governor? Posted by: LizLem at August 11, 2011 01:08 PM (lSuMX)
oh God here he is
Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Curious Would Vote Against Perry Or Palin Even Against Obama) at August 11, 2011 05:06 PM (yAor6)
I had to make Flapjacks. For about a week. Thats why I havent posted here and stuff.
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at August 11, 2011 01:08 PM (kG75t)
Obama already has the retard, head-trauma sufferer and feeble-minded spinster vote sewn up.
I'm not doing anything
Posted by: Dan 'Mr Potatoe" Quayle at August 11, 2011 01:09 PM (sOXQX)
I meant for VP in my last post. Romney or Tpaw for VP anyone?
Perry for POTUS. Good for you, good for the USA.
Posted by: Dick Nixon at August 11, 2011 01:09 PM (kaOJx)
Are girls allowed to fap here? Just wanted to be sure I'm not breaking any unwritten etiquette rules...
Posted by: Hobbitopoly at August 11, 2011 01:09 PM (h1p5V)
Monica Crowley's hair looks like it's ready for sex.
It looks good. Too bad the paper bag will hide it.
Posted by: garrett at August 11, 2011 01:09 PM (MWdAl)
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at August 11, 2011 05:08 PM (kG75t)
heh, as someone who's gotten into it w/ you I liked your comment
Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Curious Would Vote Against Perry Or Palin Even Against Obama) at August 11, 2011 01:10 PM (yAor6)
Posted by: Wooga at August 11, 2011 01:10 PM (Cdq5A)
Are girls allowed to fap here? Just wanted to be sure I'm not breaking any unwritten etiquette rules...
Posted by: Hobbitopoly
Only when their technique has passed certification. Please step into the shower with your laptop.
Posted by: That guy from the IT dept at August 11, 2011 01:10 PM (6rX0K)
Posted by: Spiker at August 11, 2011 01:10 PM (4t9J5)
That depends on several things. If Dewhurst wins the Senate primary, then he'll win the Senate seat (since the real race, here, is the Primary, not the general as far as that one goes), so that would mean the Leg would have to go looking elsewhere.
If Ted Cruz or Tom Leppert win the Senate nod, they'd almost certainly select Dewhurst, since he's the Lt. Governor.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at August 11, 2011 01:11 PM (8y9MW)
I could live with T-Paw, but piss on Romney. He needs to go back to MA.
Maybe he can primary Brown.
Posted by: Vic at August 11, 2011 01:11 PM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: Bulldog in Kansas at August 11, 2011 01:11 PM (z1C58)
Posted by: blaster at August 11, 2011 01:11 PM (l5dj7)
"if Perry won the Presidency"
Sorry, but I doubt Perry can win. He may get the Nomination, but it will take independents and some of the moderate left to win the Presidency.
They will not vote for anyone from Texas, and by the time the media is thru with him, they won't vote Perry even if they don't like Obama.
Posted by: Jimi at August 11, 2011 01:12 PM (JMsOK)
Just wanted to be sure I'm not breaking any unwritten etiquette rules...
walks on the beach are permitted but you need to keep the countertop sex to yourself.
otherwise nobody would attend the annual Hobo Chili Cookoff and Potluck Dinner
Posted by: garrett at August 11, 2011 01:12 PM (MWdAl)
And Gutfeld isn't on today. *sob*
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 11, 2011 01:12 PM (UOM48)
Rubio or West be nice
T-Paw more VP material then Presidential
Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Curious Would Vote Against Perry Or Palin Even Against Obama) at August 11, 2011 05:07 PM (yAor6)
What we were talking about is selections for VP w/o pulling a conservative that is actually sitting in congress.
Posted by: Vic at August 11, 2011 01:12 PM (M9Ie6)
That being said, Perry and Bachmann may actually split votes allowing Mitt to win IA. And if that happens, it's over before it even starts.
Posted by: AeroFANatic at August 11, 2011 01:13 PM (h8FS0)
and oh I apologize to anyone who was pissed w/ me when I tried defending her
and Curious, my vote matters because unlike you I live in all important swing state
and..okay i'm done
Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Curious Would Vote Against Perry Or Palin Even Against Obama) at August 11, 2011 05:05 PM (yAor6)
Hell I used to be nice to the troll.
Posted by: buzzion at August 11, 2011 01:13 PM (GULKT)
They will not vote for anyone from Texas
so that's the meme, no one will vote for a Texan even though 2 of our last 4 Presidents were from Texas, okay..
Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Curious Would Vote Against Perry Or Palin Even Against Obama) at August 11, 2011 01:13 PM (yAor6)
Posted by: Wooga
He isn't my ideal candidate; Palin would be. But he's about to run and she isn't, and he appears to be a better candidate of the two anyway, and we need Obama gone. I've voted for proabortion candidates in the past, when I thoght that they had other good qualities and I thought that they had a chance.
Posted by: That guy from the IT dept at August 11, 2011 01:13 PM (6rX0K)
Posted by: Ducatisti at August 11, 2011 05:09 PM (KYE7u)
Heh....a guy that can't get an umbrella through a fence gate, compared to a guy that shoots a coyote during a jog.
It's almost like comparing RuPaul to Rambo......
Posted by: © Sponge at August 11, 2011 01:14 PM (UK9cE)
Perry getting into the race will make heads hurt. And that is what matters.
Any one of our front-runners can mop the floor with the limp Dick we have in the White House now. That means he gets pummeled from all sides and the MFM can't ignore any of our people.
While they chase after Palin, Perry will be cutting down Obama, once they pivot to destroy Perry, Bachmann will beat on Obama. Once they dig up some dirt on Bachmann, Romney will read one of Palin's Facebook posts and repeat it about Obama. Shit, even Gingrich may get in a zinger or two.
Obama is entering a world of pain.
Posted by: sifty of the Irish Breakfast Insurgency at August 11, 2011 01:14 PM (ECjvn)
You seem to have forgotten about the 2 Bush guys. Brush up there, bucko.
Posted by: cherry π at August 11, 2011 01:14 PM (OhYCU)
Posted by: Hobbitopoly at August 11, 2011 05:09 PM (h1p5V)
Oh HELLS YES!!!!
Posted by: © Sponge at August 11, 2011 01:15 PM (UK9cE)
The hell you say. We can always use a few more good lawyers in Washington. Which of course excludes the POTARD.
Posted by: J. Moses Browning at August 11, 2011 01:15 PM (3rKjY)
Posted by: Vic at August 11, 2011 05:12 PM (M9Ie6)
okay
then I guess the best guess would be a popular former Gov
Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Curious Would Vote Against Perry Or Palin Even Against Obama) at August 11, 2011 01:15 PM (yAor6)
Anyway, since that was already decided, I hope the interview thing remains in place, as nothing's really changed. Posted by: ace
Know this was from a while ago but I have to ask: Why did you have to sit on it?
Would they of shut you out of future press releases or something?
Posted by: Barry O at August 11, 2011 01:17 PM (C9VgD)
Indies will never vote for a former Democrat. How do you figure?
I think people are going to vote on results more than on ideologies. They will have to be pragmatic and vote for the person who has a chance of turning things around. Perry is wise to position himself vis a vis abortion and gay marriage as a "states decide" person, because even with the constitutional amendment options hanging out there no one in god's green earth believes that Perry would make pushing for those a priority.
Indies can vote for Perry thinking - well, he's more conservative than me, but I'll give him one term to fix the economy and then vote him out.
That's why I hope the primary battle doesn't turn into a competition into who is the most pure conservative. If Palin doesn't run and decides to endorse Perry early, it kind of saves him from having to run "right" in the primary.
Posted by: Y-not's collie at August 11, 2011 01:17 PM (5H6zj)
@435
"so that's the meme, no one will vote for a Texan even though because 2 of our last 4 Presidents were from Texas, okay.."
FIFY
Those guys did not exactly display the right stuff, that majority of the country is looking for right now. They were weak to the Left, and so will be Perry!
Posted by: Jimi at August 11, 2011 01:17 PM (JMsOK)
444 It's annoying because there's usually no real point to me knowing something (like McCotter running for president) if I'm not allowed to report it. Only big media people are allowed to. So I have non-reportable scoops. (Or I could report them if i wanted to get no more info.)
Anyway, since that was already decided, I hope the interview thing remains in place, as nothing's really changed. Posted by: ace
Know this was from a while ago but I have to ask: Why did you have to sit on it?
Would they of shut you out of future press releases or something?
Posted by: Barry O at August 11, 2011 05:17 PM (C9VgD)
Posted by: Dave C at August 11, 2011 01:17 PM (C9VgD)
Are girls allowed to fap here? Just wanted to be sure I'm not breaking any unwritten etiquette rules...
Posted by: Hobbitopoly at August 11, 2011 05:09 PM (h1p5V)
You need a webcam though. And provide a link to it.
Posted by: buzzion at August 11, 2011 01:18 PM (GULKT)
then I guess the best guess would be a popular former Gov
Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Curious Would Vote Against Perry Or Palin Even Against Obama) at August 11, 2011 05:15 PM (yAor6)
Yeah, somebody like Sanford would have been good before he shit all over himself going after the woman in Argentina.
Posted by: Vic at August 11, 2011 01:18 PM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: nickless at August 11, 2011 01:18 PM (MMC8r)
He's right on the issues, where Romney is dubious and Huntsman is just flat stupid.
Hopefully he's a rather more aggressive campaigner than T-Paw.
He's got the executive record that Bachmann, for one, does not.
The Texas thing is a double-edged sword; makes a great compare-and-contrast story vs the federal govt, but there's the Bush legacy to live down.
He needs to avoid the chronic foot-in-mouth disease that seems to afflict Cain.
Posted by: JEM at August 11, 2011 01:18 PM (o+SC1)
Posted by: Arcade Hero at August 11, 2011 01:20 PM (mmHDH)
Fixed.
Posted by: Waterhouse at August 11, 2011 01:21 PM (pdCUF)
Posted by: polynikes at August 11, 2011 01:21 PM (1hMOs)
Right up until election time, anyway.
Posted by: nickless at August 11, 2011 01:22 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: LizLem at August 11, 2011 01:22 PM (lSuMX)
Posted by: Breaker19 at August 11, 2011 01:24 PM (WCm02)
Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at August 11, 2011 01:24 PM (B497t)
Ace, I have lived in Texas as a Kalifornia refugee since 1978.
From what I have seen, Perry is strongest on a secure border. He wants to shut the border to all non-legal crossing. If he could, a patrolled fence would be up now. He is a real border hawk, but not to my level (fence, expulsion, etc.).
Perry realizes that Texas is becoming more, ummm, spanish-speaking over the past several decades. Some of them have been here for generations, others not. IAC, he is dealing with the reality by making many of them 'pubs. Northern Mexico (aka the Rio Grande Valley) now has some state and local republican reps for the first time since, well, ever. In the last election, many switched to the 'pubs.
One thing Perry can do is bring that, ummm, group into the 'pubs. He also has the persona and attitude of a kick-ass leader, that that group likes. Who else can do that? Romney? No. Bachmann? No.
I rest my case.
Posted by: Ducatisti at August 11, 2011 01:24 PM (KYE7u)
I certainly don't want to pull a sitting governor or senator for the VP slot
Posted by: phreshone at August 11, 2011 01:25 PM (T3vCe)
Posted by: Jane D'oh
I'll match that. Vid with the pudding and a "I'm Rick Perry, Bitch!" will get you a $1000 from me.
Don't say I never done nothing for ya Ace. Let me know if they make good on that...
8^)
Posted by: Rex Harrison's Hat at August 11, 2011 01:25 PM (4136b)
I don't think people from Texas should be allowed to have an opinion of Perry outside of Texas.
Texans have always been over biased of their state. And as far as I am concerned, I never understood that. Been there many times, and I still don't understand what the hell they are talking about. Seems like a horrible place to live. They can keep the state to themselves as far as I'm concerned.
Texans are out of touch with the rest of the country specifically on the Perry issue.
Posted by: Jimi at August 11, 2011 01:25 PM (JMsOK)
Posted by: Breaker19 at August 11, 2011 05:08 PM (WCm02)
16 years worth
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at August 11, 2011 01:26 PM (UhTsC)
Jane, unless he has a body double, he's there. Helps counter the stink of Juan Williams.
Posted by: Lady in Black at August 11, 2011 05:22 PM (ycuSb)
Juan was just promoting Ron Paul again. Liberals sure do love a bigoted lunatic.
Posted by: buzzion at August 11, 2011 01:26 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: Dick Nixon at August 11, 2011 01:27 PM (kaOJx)
Didn't you get the memo about fucking with me?
I'm the future of this country.
Posted by: Texas at August 11, 2011 01:28 PM (lT/p/)
Posted by: cherry π at August 11, 2011 01:29 PM (OhYCU)
Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at August 11, 2011 05:24 PM (B497t)
Milk Toastie, Um Bridge, Kabucki.
Posted by: Some of its spelling ability at August 11, 2011 01:29 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at August 11, 2011 01:29 PM (kG75t)
Ann Coulter or Laura Ingraham WH spokesperson
OMG! SPEW!!!!!!
I could just see the W.H. press corp trying to keep up with Ann's snarkyness. THAT would be a show I'd like to watch. Laura Ingraham, not so much. That monotone Bill Paxton delivery of hers gets on my nerves. Bright lady but I'd really enjoy Ann's toying with the lower IQ's there.
Posted by: MrObvious at August 11, 2011 01:30 PM (H87Hu)
What matters is the economic record. But this is certainly a big plus. The possibility, then certainty that another Texan is going to send the Golden Calf packing is going to do wondrous things to the left.
Posted by: Methos, who agrees Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure, is distracted at August 11, 2011 01:30 PM (sOXQX)
It's only horrible when you visit, bitch. And you can keep the hell out of the state, unless your being forced by your masters to do business here.
Posted by: Breaker19 at August 11, 2011 01:30 PM (WCm02)
Is there a point aside from ignorant, reflexive regionalism to your comment?
Where have you lived/worked/paid taxes? You seem to have really parochial world view. I'm going to guess Boston.
Posted by: Y-not's collie at August 11, 2011 01:31 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Ducatisti at August 11, 2011 05:24 PM (KYE7u)
Hey now, I live in the RGV and the differences between us and Northern Mexico are astounding.
Like, first, we have paved roads.
Believe it or not, people here speak English.
Also, you don't have to really worry about getting shot by a cartel gangbanger.
Just something to keep in mind, yo.
Posted by: Robert at August 11, 2011 01:31 PM (4q6A5)
@470
"those Texans are probably too busy being hired and working at their jobs they have there. Thanks to Perry"
Texas Unemployment Rate=8.2%
State where I live=4.8%
Looks like we are running laps around the fools in Texas to me?
Posted by: Jimi at August 11, 2011 01:31 PM (JMsOK)
I don't think people from Texas should be allowed to have an opinion of Perry outside of Texas.
Texans have always been over biased of their stateI agree. It's really aggravating when some dunderheads voice pride in a state that's totally undeserving of it.
Posted by: inquisitive at August 11, 2011 01:33 PM (sOXQX)
Posted by: MrObvious at August 11, 2011 01:34 PM (H87Hu)
Posted by: Oldsailors poet at August 11, 2011 01:35 PM (ZDUD4)
How big is its economy? Texas' is the second largest, behind California.
Posted by: Y-not at August 11, 2011 01:36 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Crowsting, who like many others knows that Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 11, 2011 01:36 PM (61BD9)
Posted by: LizLem at August 11, 2011 01:36 PM (lSuMX)
People afraid of Texans? Is it their pride that hurts your feelings?
Has someone conditioned you to believe anyone from down
South or with a drawl is dumber than someone from the North?
I'll take a confident, proud Texan running for office over a thousand of these navel-gazing self-doubting metros from the coasts. Texans usually don't need to consult their college professors to know what position to take on an issue today.
Posted by: sifty of the Irish Breakfast Insurgency at August 11, 2011 01:37 PM (ECjvn)
Posted by: Texas at August 11, 2011 05:28 PM (lT/p/)
Cut. Jib. Newsletter.
Posted by: Methos is keeping his options open at August 11, 2011 01:37 PM (sOXQX)
Texans are out of touch with the rest of the country specifically on the Perry issue.
Posted by: Jimi at August 11, 2011 05:25 PM (JMsOK)
Can't imagine that. When prosperity and freedom are mentioned anywhere in the media as being positive things, everyone points to the southern plains as the example. You sound like curious' hipster boyfriend.
Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at August 11, 2011 01:37 PM (B497t)
What are there, 14 people living there? 12 to shovel snow and 2 to make the hot chocolate?
Posted by: sifty of the Irish Breakfast Insurgency at August 11, 2011 01:38 PM (ECjvn)
Posted by: Jimi at August 11, 2011 01:39 PM (JMsOK)
South Dakota? Home to what, 3 million people? Hell Texas has suburbs that big in both Houston and Dallas Metro areas, or there abouts.
The George McGovern School of Government is at the University of South Dakota. Tells me all I need to know about that state.
Posted by: Dick Nixon at August 11, 2011 01:40 PM (kaOJx)
Texans are out of touch with the rest of the country specifically on the Perry issue.
Posted by: Jimi at August 11, 2011 05:25 PM (JMsOK)
I never knew Ohio was in Texas. Y-not is Utah in Texas too?
Posted by: Some of its spelling ability at August 11, 2011 01:40 PM (GULKT)
Hey, we can't let those TEXANS have all the fun! heh, heh
I'm still learning the ropes of Utah politics. It's a bit complicated here in Utah County, especially if you're not LDS simply because there's an entire set of networks and conversations that happen at church and family functions to which I'm not privy. But it's nice to be in a conservative area for a change.
Posted by: Y-not at August 11, 2011 01:40 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: polynikes at August 11, 2011 01:41 PM (1hMOs)
Posted by: Crowsting, who like many others knows that Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 11, 2011 01:42 PM (61BD9)
Not exactly, but I did live in Texas for about six years so I think that makes me contaminated or something. I realize that living there is not the same as passing through DFW or IAH or walking around on the Riverwalk. It's those latter experiences that really give one insight into things. /s
Posted by: Y-not at August 11, 2011 01:42 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: blogforce one at August 11, 2011 01:43 PM (lICB9)
Posted by: VADM (Red) Cuthbert Collingwood RN at August 11, 2011 01:44 PM (NxLjD)
Posted by: Jimi at August 11, 2011 05:39 PM (JMsOK)
You live with your mom in Fargo, don't you. And you're probably one of the 4.8% unemployed. What's wrong? Oil patch too tough for you?
Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at August 11, 2011 01:44 PM (B497t)
Posted by: buzzion at August 11, 2011 01:45 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: VADM (Red) Cuthbert Collingwood RN at August 11, 2011 05:44 PM (NxLjD)
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That has been de-bunked.
Try another.
This time, show your work for partial credit.
Posted by: Y-not, former bitch professor at August 11, 2011 01:45 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: blogforce one at August 11, 2011 01:46 PM (lICB9)
Living in Houston during the summer is a far different thing from, well, anything, really.
Posted by: Methos can't say enough that Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 11, 2011 01:46 PM (sOXQX)
And asking who they support is a "rhetorical trap".
Posted by: sifty of the Irish Breakfast Insurgency at August 11, 2011 01:48 PM (ECjvn)
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Living in Houston during the summer is a far different thing from, well, anything, really
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"Living and partly living."
I grew up outside DC and I thought MD summers were hot and humid. Ha! That'll learn me!
The margaritas and beers (at the Gingerman near Rice) helped enormously.
Posted by: Y-not, former bitch professor at August 11, 2011 01:48 PM (5H6zj)
You seem to feel that anyone here gives a flying fuck what you think.
You would be wrong...as usual.
Posted by: jwm at August 11, 2011 01:48 PM (spEu4)
Who does? Who has the cajones?
Posted by: sifty of the Irish Breakfast Insurgency at August 11, 2011 01:49 PM (ECjvn)
@502
As of right now.......I'm leaning Romney! He will have the best chance of picking up independents, and probably the best hope we are gonna have at stabilizing the economy for the future.
What kind of Business experience does Perry have?
It would be nice to have a better selection, but I am a firm beleiver than Perry does not sell well outside of Texas, which was my original point.
Posted by: Jimi at August 11, 2011 01:49 PM (JMsOK)
Come here and say that. And when you get out of the hospital, you can leave and not come back.
We're proud of our State because our State is the only on that ever won its own independence. There's a reason the Texas State flag is allowed to fly at an equal height with the United States Flag- something no other state is allowed to do. There are other reasons, too, but that'll get you started.
As for your comment @480- Yeah, it really sucks when your population is growing so quickly from people fleeing other states that their unemployment is going down, that your own job creation can't keep up. Look at the job creation numbers: only Wisconsin has come close to us- and we're still better by something like double (over the last 2 years) than the next closest state in job creation.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at August 11, 2011 01:50 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: curious at August 11, 2011 01:52 PM (k1rwm)
I do like Rick Perry but does he have the COJONES to attack and outflank the Bolshevik/MSM?? Not sure about that, chief.
I could give a fuck what the MFM is going to do. They'll do what they always do. People are turning to other sources other than the MFM. That paradigm is dead. The 2010 elections proved that.
Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at August 11, 2011 01:53 PM (B497t)
Posted by: blogforce one at August 11, 2011 01:54 PM (lICB9)
Posted by: curious at August 11, 2011 05:52 PM (k1rwm)
You're a braindead troll and you don't "get" anything besides crabs.
Posted by: buzzion at August 11, 2011 01:55 PM (GULKT)
you're not going to like this one bit but I'm a Jameson drinker too!!! Ever since I got it as a gift....it's great.....I was drinking Johnny Walker blue but I love Jameson.
Posted by: curious at August 11, 2011 01:57 PM (k1rwm)
How someone who supports Romney, whom polls show loses voters out of the gate based on his religion (not saying it's right, just saying it's true) can be wringing his hands about some (as yet unestablished) anti-Texas sentiment is beyond me.
As for Romney's economic chops, as I've said before (including when he was my front runner earlier this year), I would be a heckuva lot more impressed by a guy who had actually held a job for the past four years instead of letting his resume accumulate dust. It's the same knock I make on Palin, incidentally, or any of these folks who are out of government and being opinion makers. What Romney did in a state of moderate importance/size four to eight years ago, and what he did at Bain Capital longer ago than that, is not as informative to me as what Perry is doing right now in a state as diverse and large as Texas.
Moreover, anything Romney says he'll do on the economic front has to somehow jibe with his completely unconservative support of government-run health care and ethanol subsidies, two things he foolishly reinforced in recent months. That's where he lost me. We know MassCare hurt Massachusett's economy, but he still won't disavow it.
I would vote for Romney, but I wouldn't be happy about it and he's definitely far down on my list for the primary.
Posted by: Y-not, former bitch professor at August 11, 2011 01:57 PM (5H6zj)
As of right now.......I'm leaning Romney! He will have the best chance of picking up independents, and probably the best hope we are gonna have at stabilizing the economy for the future.
Then why is it that independents voted in droves for repub candidates in 2010? They're finding out that they're Americans first and will vote that way. When Perry announces, Romney's chances are gone. And I hope that pisses you off really bad.
Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at August 11, 2011 02:00 PM (B497t)
Posted by: blogforce one at August 11, 2011 02:00 PM (lICB9)
Posted by: buzzion at August 11, 2011 02:02 PM (GULKT)
I really, really hope I don't have to consider voting third party again just so my conscience is satisfied at the end of the day.
Posted by: Arcade Hero at August 11, 2011 02:02 PM (mmHDH)
Posted by: blogforce one at August 11, 2011 02:03 PM (lICB9)
@526
"voted in droves for repub candidates in 2010"
They didn't vote for anything....it was a referendum on Super Majorities in House and Senate.
Posted by: Jimi at August 11, 2011 02:06 PM (JMsOK)
"it was a referendum on Super Majorities in House and Senate."
Epic fucking failure. Thanks for playing.
Posted by: Dick Nixon at August 11, 2011 02:09 PM (kaOJx)
Posted by: Joffen at August 11, 2011 02:12 PM (EPcuy)
Posted by: Joffen at August 11, 2011 02:13 PM (EPcuy)
Posted by: phreshone at August 11, 2011 02:14 PM (T3vCe)
Perry can't trusted to be conservative, so you're supporting Romneycare? Um, okay.
Posted by: Methos can't say enough that Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 11, 2011 02:16 PM (sOXQX)
@537
It isn't Romney Care! Roney's plan was thro in the Trash bin. The Mass legislature not only added, by completely changed Romney's proposal, and then overturned all of his veto's.
Do some research!
Posted by: Jimi at August 11, 2011 02:19 PM (JMsOK)
Posted by: Joffen at August 11, 2011 02:19 PM (EPcuy)
Posted by: Joffen at August 11, 2011 02:21 PM (EPcuy)
Growing up on a farm/ranch in West Texas... learned the struggle for survival at a mighty young age... doubt Mittens, as qualified as he is, fully understands that concept
Posted by: phreshone at August 11, 2011 02:21 PM (T3vCe)
@537
It isn't Romney Care! Roney's plan was thro in the Trash bin. The Mass legislature not only added, by completely changed Romney's proposal, and then overturned all of his veto's.
Do some research!
Posted by: Jimi at August 11, 2011 06:19 PM (JMsOK)
And yet he still supports the plan. If its not his plan and not Romneycare why has he doubled down on support instead of distancing himself from it?
Posted by: buzzion at August 11, 2011 02:22 PM (GULKT)
I'm referring to the candidate as Romneycare. See it's a catch all for the fact that the dude can't be counted on to take a stand against the mewling of the left.
Besides, isn't Romney an ivy leaguer? America's had enough of them.
Posted by: Methos can't say enough that Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 11, 2011 02:25 PM (sOXQX)
Posted by: Joffen at August 11, 2011 02:26 PM (EPcuy)
@532
"Epic fucking failure. Thanks for playing."
House=129 with ligitimate Tea Party support
Senate=9 with ligitimate Tea Party support
Only 32% won! Granted that's good! But totally makes your comment look idiotic!
Posted by: Jimi at August 11, 2011 02:26 PM (JMsOK)
Posted by: LizLem at August 11, 2011 02:26 PM (lSuMX)
Posted by: IlleglaslovePerry at August 11, 2011 02:31 PM (G/JLJ)
"And yet he still supports the plan."
Imagine going back to your home state, which you were a leader of, after bad mouthing it.
#1.) It makes you look like an Ass
#2.) It makes you look weak. Sometimes you have to take responsiblity for things out of your control. it is called "Character."
If you were from Texas and you did that the mouth breathers down there would probably linch you!
Posted by: Jimi at August 11, 2011 02:34 PM (JMsOK)
hahahahahaha, old story from 2008
Must have a liberal squish so we can turn those purple States Red.
What we got was a shit who turned red States blue. Jemi, stay out of Texas and stay in S.D.
Posted by: Vic at August 11, 2011 02:35 PM (M9Ie6)
"You just dropped a fucking bomb, sugar"
I didn't drop it, I launched it! I will be proven correct too. The Texans gave us LBJ, GBush I, GW Bush II and the Dallas Cowboys.
They should ignored!
Posted by: Jimi at August 11, 2011 02:37 PM (JMsOK)
Posted by: Nathanael from Capernaum at August 11, 2011 02:43 PM (sOXQX)
Posted by: LizLem at August 11, 2011 02:43 PM (lSuMX)
"And yet he still supports the plan."
Imagine going back to your home state, which you were a leader of, after bad mouthing it.
#1.) It makes you look like an Ass
#2.) It makes you look weak. Sometimes you have to take responsiblity for things out of your control. it is called "Character."
If you were from Texas and you did that the mouth breathers down there would probably linch you!
Posted by: Jimi at August 11, 2011 06:34 PM (JMsOK)
Charecter is being willing to admit that something you thought would be good, and reconizing what a giant turd its become.
As for "linching," you mean like signing an executive order, recognizing it was unpopular and when your legislator presented you with a bill rescinding your order you sign it into law? They'd lynch you for that?
Then why isn't Perry swinging from a tree? Oh and go fuck yourself for insulting Texans, and I say that with zero ties to the state.
Why is Romney incapable of saying he does not support the Masscare plan because of what the forced into but still thinks his original plan would have worked?
Posted by: buzzion at August 11, 2011 02:45 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: Joffen at August 11, 2011 02:53 PM (yCdUw)
Ah, but he did say that "Corporations are people", which, to the reporter, was a major gaffe.
Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at August 11, 2011 02:54 PM (YmPwQ)
Posted by: Joffen at August 11, 2011 02:58 PM (yCdUw)
@554
"Oh and go fuck yourself for insulting Texans, and I say that with zero ties to the state.'
I can accept that! You are entitled to your opinion!
"Why is Romney incapable of saying he does not support the Masscare plan because of what the forced into but still thinks his original plan would have worked?"
Because the majority of people in Mass are raving Leftists. It is what they wanted. It didn't matter if Romney was the one in power during that period. If he refused, they would have done it with out him!
Posted by: Jimi at August 11, 2011 02:59 PM (JMsOK)
Posted by: Joffen at August 11, 2011 03:06 PM (yCdUw)
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Oh, so he really didn't want to sign it. Okay, that part kinda makes sense (not really). But how do you explain the fact that he defended it after he left office? It's not like he has a chance of Massachusetts voting for him if he's the nominee. Here's where your idea completely collapses.
Posted by: Joffen at August 11, 2011 07:06 PM (yCdUw)
Isn't it actually unpopular in Massachusetts now too?
Posted by: buzzion at August 11, 2011 03:08 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: Tom Tancredo at August 11, 2011 04:29 PM (lT/p/)
Undead, that doesn't even make sense. But you seldom do.
Posted by: Ronster at August 11, 2011 03:09 PM (2BRaG)
Posted by: Joffen at August 11, 2011 03:11 PM (yCdUw)
Posted by: Joffen at August 11, 2011 03:20 PM (qRuYI)
Vic,
"stay out of Texas"
I don't think you have to worry about that!
But the one thing you guys in Texas are overlooking big time...is how Perry is going to be sold to the rest of the country. You guys are all caught up in believing "Your Guy" is the best man for the job....that may or may not be true, but that's not the point.
The person that can actually win, gets the job, not the person who deserves it, or may be the best.
Perry will be sold based on the facts:
#1.) He is extremely socially conservative, or at least pretends to be. This narrows his base not widens it.
#2.) His border record does not work in his favor, whether he did all he could or not. Half will see him as weak on it, the other half will see him as "Anti-Immigration."
#3.) He is from Texas.....and to be frank I have yet to see the evidence that proves Perry is anymore Conservative than Romney. Outside of Texas I think it sticks out like a sour thmub, but apparently you guys down there don't see it.
#4.) No business experience
#5.) He used to be a Democrat!
In combination with even the most smallish of skeletons in closet...it will be a tough sell.
Posted by: Jimi at August 11, 2011 03:24 PM (JMsOK)
Joffen,
"But how do you explain the fact that he defended it after he left office? It's not like he has a chance of Massachusetts voting for him if he's the nominee. Here's where your idea completely collapses."
And here is Romeny quote of supposed defense. This is about as much as he is talked about it.
Mr. Romney said the Massachusetts law “included a number of things I wish I could do differently.” But, he said: “Over all, am I proud of the fact that we did our best for our people, and got people insured? Absolutely.”
As Romney explained in that interview, the state had an issue that he wanted to help solve. Solving a state issue and keeping it within the state is the proper Conservative position. The problem is, he had a State legislature that overruled him, and he ended up talking the blame for a situation that flat out can not be attributed to him. The facts just don't support it.
Posted by: Jimi at August 11, 2011 03:32 PM (JMsOK)
#1.) He is extremely socially conservative, or at least pretends to be. This narrows his base not widens it.
#2.) His border record does not work in his favor, whether he did all he could or not. Half will see him as weak on it, the other half will see him as "Anti-Immigration."
#3.) He is from Texas.....and to be frank I have yet to see the evidence that proves Perry is anymore Conservative than Romney. Outside of Texas I think it sticks out like a sour thmub, but apparently you guys down there don't see it.
#4.) No business experience
#5.) He used to be a Democrat!
In combination with even the most smallish of skeletons in closet...it will be a tough sell.
Posted by: Jimi at August 11, 2011 07:24 PM (JMsOK)
1.) Mormonism isn't exactly some socially moderate religion either.
2.) His Immigration stance isn't likely to be all that different from other candidates, especially Romney.
3.) You're discounting a guy solely based on his region and not his record. That's retarded. Also Perry doesn't have a massive socialist grab of healthcare.
4.) I think his business experience is that he has run a ranch, and also that he seems to know governments role regarding business since his state is one that has increased its jobs so much.
5.) So was Reagan.
Posted by: buzzion at August 11, 2011 03:37 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: buzzion at August 11, 2011 03:40 PM (GULKT)
@568
No....your not getting it! Being a conservative is not an advantage, it is a clear disadvantage in Presidential Politics.
Even though....there should be no question that I want an ultra conservative on in the W.H.
Posted by: Jimi at August 11, 2011 03:52 PM (JMsOK)
@568
No....your not getting it! Being a conservative is not an advantage, it is a clear disadvantage in Presidential Politics.
Even though....there should be no question that I want an ultra conservative on in the W.H.
Posted by: Jimi at August 11, 2011 07:52 PM (JMsOK)
So being a pussy beta is an advantage according to you. Got it. You really are an idiot you know that.
Posted by: buzzion at August 11, 2011 03:56 PM (GULKT)
@570
In terms of politics it is. You live in country that voted Obama into power with some pretty big margins. You had better wake up!
Only 30% of the polutiaon is actually paying attention.
Posted by: Jimi at August 11, 2011 03:59 PM (JMsOK)
@570
In terms of politics it is. You live in country that voted Obama into power with some pretty big margins. You had better wake up!
Only 30% of the polutiaon is actually paying attention.
Posted by: Jimi at August 11, 2011 07:59 PM (JMsOK)
And he was running against a Moderate Republican. Yeah Moderate sure is the way to go.
Posted by: buzzion at August 11, 2011 04:01 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: The Magicians AudioBook at August 11, 2011 04:09 PM (LnWQ1)
"And he was running against a Moderate Republican"
And if somebody more Conservative would have been running, they would have lost by an even larger margin.
Posted by: Jimi at August 11, 2011 04:12 PM (JMsOK)
Posted by: blogforce one at August 11, 2011 04:17 PM (lICB9)
And if somebody more Conservative would have been running, they would have lost by an even larger margin.
Posted by: Jimi at August 11, 2011 08:12 PM (JMsOK)
So you admit that Romney would have been destroyed by Obama in 2008. Nice.
Posted by: Things Jimi believes simultaneously at August 11, 2011 04:21 PM (GULKT)
#96
Ace:
Thgis is the most astounding piece of mental gymnastics you have performed recently. The Texas Dream Act isn't Amnesty it just allows illegals to pay in state tutition like Texas citizens. So Perry allows them scholarships, etc.
He didn't do anything to them for being illegal did he? By his actions he denied opportunities and scholarships to American citizens.
Hell no this isn't amnesty. Its Texas amnesty and he'd do no less as president.
Fuck Perry and all those who parrot it "depends on what the definition of is is." This country is in the state it is because of such dishonest men, without the character, integrity, or honor to uphold their solemn oaths.
Posted by: Molon Labe at August 11, 2011 09:35 PM (g5MrG)
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