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August 08, 2011

Britain Burning: Underclass/Youth Riots For Third Night
— Ace

British prime minister David Cameron and other senior politicians were planning to fly back from holiday on Monday as riots spread through London with potent images of the capital ablaze beamed around the world and emboldened youths attacking in broad daylight.
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In a sign that rioters were growing in confidence, between 50 and 100 youths gathered on a busy junction in Hackney, east London, not far from the site of next yearÂ’s Olympic games, during the early afternoon, throwing missiles at police and setting light to cars.
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AP reported that police have ordered London football clubs to call off matches.

If you're consuming the media, you probably don't know what it's about. I assumed that meant it was racial, and the telegraph seems to obliquely confirm that with the euphemism "underclass."

The police shot a black guy in suspicious circumstances. Feral kids with no jobs ran amok. To TonyÂ’s mind, this was a riot waiting for an excuse. In the hangover of the violence that spread through London, the uprisings seemed both inevitable and unthinkable. Over a few days in which attacks became a contagion the capital city of an advanced nation has reverted to a Hobbesian dystopia of chaos and brutality.
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Among several obvious answers, one is a failure of policing. The evidence so far points to more ignominy for the rudderless Met, as doubts emerge over whether Mark Duggan, whose death inspired the initial riots, fired at police. The stonewalling of Mr DugganÂ’s family precipitated the crisis, and the absence of officers to intervene in an orgy of looting led to a breakdown of order suggestive of the lawless badlands of a failing state.

It's pretty amazing that there are major riots going on in a world capital and the media won't tell us anything about them, out of a belief we can't handle it.

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It's pretty amazing that there are major riots going on in a world capital and the media won't tell us anything about them, out of a belief we can't handle it.

Much like the media blackout on the car-b-ques in places throughout France, and even in the suburbs of Paris, throughout the mid-00's.

That's when I learned that if 100 cars are torched within the span of one night, the French authorities don't consider it a riot.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at August 08, 2011 05:08 PM (c0A3e)

2 It's pretty amazing that there are major riots going on in a world capital and the media won't tell us anything about them, out of a belief we can't handle it.

Like how the MFing MBM ain't talking about the flash mob crime gangs

Posted by: beedubya at August 08, 2011 05:09 PM (AnTyA)

3 Kate at sda links to a frightening google map overlay.

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 08, 2011 05:09 PM (1W/cK)

4 Until now there's been at least a theoretical reason, like anger at tuition hikes, given for the English riots. I can't remember hearing anything about the nominal cause of this one.

Posted by: Polliwog, Teahada hobbit at August 08, 2011 05:09 PM (YLw8r)

5 Send JEF to London. He can give a speach and all will be well.

Posted by: teh wind at August 08, 2011 05:10 PM (GkYyh)

it'll be coming here soon enough i'm afraid

i hope not....

but

Posted by: navycopjoe at August 08, 2011 05:10 PM (R7NIt)

7 5 Send JEF to London. He can give a speach and all will be well.

Posted by: teh wind at August 08, 2011 09:10 PM (GkYyh)

Have him pull for the rioters and it just might.

Posted by: Where're my ping pong balls? at August 08, 2011 05:11 PM (XIXhw)

8 I can't remember hearing anything about the nominal cause of this one.

Posted by: Polliwog, Teahada hobbit at August 08, 2011 09:09 PM (YLw8r)

It's Ramadan. They're "youths."

Posted by: not the droid you seek at August 08, 2011 05:11 PM (xc/va)

9 Here, let me handle this. I'll have this sorted out in a jiffy.

Posted by: Albert Pierrepoint at August 08, 2011 05:12 PM (QINKF)

Riots in Hackney, Tottenham, Croydon, and Ealing---this stuff is spreading.

These urban "yutes" are picking up tips from the young black A holes in Philadelphia and in Wisconsin. So far in London they've put 55 policemen in hospital. About time to break out the live fire ammunition and have a few more flipping funerals for these "yutes".

Posted by: Comanche Voter at August 08, 2011 05:12 PM (3ESDJ)

11 Don't want copycats in the US...

Posted by: Popcorn at August 08, 2011 05:12 PM (v/TKI)

12 The Kent State Solution would fix this shit quick.

Anarchists and muz both are cowards to the core.

Posted by: sifty, Knight Teamplar and Tearrorist hobbit at August 08, 2011 05:13 PM (ECjvn)

13
It's pretty amazing that there are major riots going on in a world capital and the media won't tell us anything about them, out of a belief we can't handle it.

The same people won't reshow video from 9-11, but did spend endless amounts of time showing Abu Ghraib pictures...

Posted by: 18-1 at August 08, 2011 05:13 PM (FBr/C)

The evidence so far points to more ignominy for the rudderless Met, as doubts emerge over whether Mark Duggan, whose death inspired the initial riots, fired at police.

Or I could actually read the linked article, like that's ever going to happen.

Posted by: Polliwog, Teahada hobbit at August 08, 2011 05:14 PM (YLw8r)

15 Good.Let London burn.The left has destroyed Western society.

Posted by: steevy at August 08, 2011 05:14 PM (eNbP/)

16 "World Capital?" Does capital of Britainstan really count as a "world capital"? Not that these riots could have ANYTHING possibly to do with the Religion of Peace...

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 08, 2011 05:14 PM (kUaEF)

17 If I was a rioting youth I wouldn't be intimidated by that accent either - it's like a riot in a theme park!

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at August 08, 2011 05:14 PM (+lsX1)

18 I can't read any of the first links ace...it's asking me to register.

Posted by: Tami at August 08, 2011 05:14 PM (X6akg)

19 In world socialism, all people are equal. But political leaders and the media are more equal than the rest.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at August 08, 2011 05:15 PM (SnXrr)

20 this is what the socialists raised.....youths who riot at the drop of a hat.....i'm glad i'm old and cranky raised correctly by God fearing right wing religious bitter clingers........

Posted by: phoenixgirl at August 08, 2011 05:15 PM (eOXTH)

21 So far in London they've put 55 policemen in hospital. About time to break out the live fire ammunition and have a few more flipping funerals for these "yutes". Posted by: Comanche Voter at August 08, 2011 09:12 PM (3ESDJ) Word. The Brits need to drop the Unarmed Constable BS and grow a pair.

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 08, 2011 05:15 PM (kUaEF)

22 From a reader writing in to Insty:

As an American in London, I am seeing it first hand. Your statement about the welfare stateÂ’s death convulsions are true Â— there is a small business owner on BBC news talking now about a restaurant of his getting trashed in Ealing, a rather nice part of West London. He noted that despite all the talk of this being a response to poverty, the looters are wearing designed tracksuits and communicating by I-Phones.

Posted by: beedubya at August 08, 2011 05:16 PM (AnTyA)

23 3 Kate at sda links to a frightening google map overlay.

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 08, 2011 09:09 PM (1W/cK)

The site is close to Bush road and Beck road! I knew it!

Posted by: Lefty McLibtard at August 08, 2011 05:16 PM (xc/va)

24 And S&P actually thinks Britain is in better shape than the US for investment purposes? Really??

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 08, 2011 05:16 PM (kUaEF)

25 Gosh darn it, just when President Obama was going to solve our problems in the U.S., another world disaster happens like the London riots happens, that will prevent him from saving us. He tries so hard to save us, and it so unfair that these horrible incidents around the world, like the Japanese earthquake, or the Texas drought, or the Arab spring, or those horrible ATMs spreading over the planet and devouring jobs, prevents him from working his special magic to save us all.

Posted by: Obama Supporter at August 08, 2011 05:17 PM (eMcW8)

26 I can't remember hearing anything about the nominal cause of this one.

It's Monday. Amy Winehouse just got a 15-day sobriety chip. Global warming. Who cares? Setting shit on fire is fun!

and the telegraph seems to obliquely confirm that with the euphemism "underclass."

This "underclass" has Blackberries.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at August 08, 2011 05:17 PM (0vDuM)

27 Honestly, if britain burned to the ground overnight I wouldn't give two shits. They're all slaves to socialism, it'd be better if they all committed mass suicide.

Posted by: Tangonine, Tea Party Terrorist at August 08, 2011 05:18 PM (x3YFz)

28 These riots will inevitably continue until the Brits take a balanced approach and the police offer up their fair share.

Posted by: SlaveDog at August 08, 2011 05:18 PM (PidTa)

29 The left has ruined the whole fucking world.Time to burn it down and build a new one.

Posted by: steevy at August 08, 2011 05:18 PM (eNbP/)

Disaffection is tied to economics and energized by common circumstance and manipulated by anarchists.

Ace, nothing is going to make sense as this economic witches brew and destabilization spreads.

Posted by: journolist at August 08, 2011 05:19 PM (Fb9Q0)

31 18 I can't read any of the first links ace...it's asking me to register.

Posted by: Tami at August 08, 2011 09:14 PM (X6akg)

Yeah, that FT site wants you to register to read the article. And if you look registering allows you the ability to read 10 articles per 30 days. What a wonderful site.

Posted by: buzzion at August 08, 2011 05:19 PM (GULKT)

32 Interesting, the telegraph article insists that the only solution is more social democracy. Example:
the view is gaining ground that social democracy, with its safety nets, its costly education and health care for all, is unsustainable in the bleak times ahead. The reality is that it is the only solution.

Posted by: Where're my ping pong balls? at August 08, 2011 05:20 PM (XIXhw)

33 I step out of lurking to report right in the thick of the city. ItÂ’s been a bit . . . un-nerving here in North London tonight. Went out in the garden about 10 PM and could hear several sirens, mostly in the distance or travelling from north to the south. A couple of them went screaming by the house. There hasnÂ’t been any nonsense evident in this neighbourhoodÂ–and we have no reason to think it will occur. But it could. We hope it wonÂ’t. Talked to the neighbour (who is a London LFC fan and a tough old dog) and weÂ’re all safe w/ home security and watching each othersÂ’ backs. CanÂ’t come up with anything more profound to say other than prayers for All of Us, and special ones for the people who will suffer for a long time as a consequence of the lawlessness weÂ’re sitting in right now. There are a lot of decent people out there tonight who won't have a job to go to, who will have to live with the scars of this for a long time, and who can get very few answers to their questions other than "It was lawless recklessness by a bunch of jackals who tweeting and acting on impulse." Pah.

Posted by: Mark The Lurker at August 08, 2011 05:20 PM (0PjMy)

London Financial Times FT has a paywall.

Go direct to BBC or Sky Television.

Posted by: journolist at August 08, 2011 05:20 PM (Fb9Q0)

35 "It's pretty amazing that there are major riots going on in a world capital and the media won't tell us anything about them, out of a belief we can't handle it."

The media is worried about not being able to handle us.

Posted by: davidt at August 08, 2011 05:20 PM (8Pgd/)

36 27 Yep.They lectured us for years with their smug sense of superiority.No armed citizens,no death penalty,National Health Service,so much better than you yanks,what?

Posted by: steevy at August 08, 2011 05:20 PM (eNbP/)

37 are these british youths or "asian youths"....

Posted by: phreshone at August 08, 2011 05:20 PM (T3vCe)

38 I can't remember hearing anything about the nominal cause of this one. Posted by: Polliwog, Teahada hobbit at August 08, 2011 09:09 PM (YLw8r)

Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

Posted by: Alfred Pennyworth at August 08, 2011 05:22 PM (FBr/C)

39 Mark, I was in London last October, and walked the streets by myself while husband was in meetings, with no fear. I am heartsick to see this.

I can't help but think someone has orchestrated it through social media.

Prayers for all of you.

Posted by: Miss Marple at August 08, 2011 05:22 PM (Fo83G)

40 OT but, Speaking of youth riots... Did you see over on Drudge where Michigan has awakened and kicked 30k college kids off food stamps. The whining is pathetic: We should be studying, not worrying about where we're getting our next meal, blah, blah, blah.

There's a reason that I'm in my 40s and still working on my degree. It's because when I was young I worked two and three jobs at a time to feed myself and my daughter. After spending my youth in section 8 housing and on food stamps, my pride would not have permitted me to accept food stamps as an adult.

Guess I'm the sucker, huh?

Posted by: Bobo Main at August 08, 2011 05:22 PM (piMMO)

41 The ironic thing is that the muslim neighborhoods in Londonistan are relatively tranquil. This is pure "life at the bottom" smash and grab idiocy and criminality.

Posted by: Annoyer of Liberal Acquaintances at August 08, 2011 05:23 PM (nTjSs)

Seriously: In half a century, when kids are asking us what the fuck happened to Western society, what are we going to say? That the professors and the lawyers allied with the street thugs and religious nutcases to burn it all down?

They're going to look at us with their mouths open and say, "But that doesn't make any sense! Why would they do that?" And for lack of anything better to say, we'll tell them the allegorical story of the scorpion and the frog. Maybe they'll understand, a bit.

Then they'll turn to leave, then stop and turn back around... "Oh, Grandma/ Grandpa, I almost forgot. Where were the rest of you when all this went down?"

Sorry, just feelin' a bit blue. And pissed.

Posted by: Secundus at August 08, 2011 05:23 PM (jUFEy)

43 All it needed was an excuse that had nothing to do with anything big. I was thinking that this would of happened durring the royal wedding but they had so much contol that no big crouds could grow and the bobbies where shoulder to sholder everywhere. The 2012 olympics in London will be in full lockdown

Posted by: tjexcite at August 08, 2011 05:23 PM (/QtpF)

London is a financial center of the world, waning as it were but as Ace points out ---- not a word much over here this side of the pond.

I sense the whole globe is on high alert of fire.

Posted by: journolist at August 08, 2011 05:24 PM (Fb9Q0)

45 Posted by: Mark The Lurker at August 08, 2011 09:20 PM (0PjMy) Good luck and Godspeed, sir! I may be frustrated with what's become of modern Britain since Thatcher's day, but I've always had a great love of all things British. Be safe.

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 08, 2011 05:25 PM (kUaEF)

46 @37 There's a difference?

Posted by: teh wind at August 08, 2011 05:25 PM (GkYyh)

47 And stay safe, Mark the (Former) Lurker.

Posted by: Secundus at August 08, 2011 05:25 PM (jUFEy)

48 Watching that live coverage on BBC makes it feel like I'm watching Shaun of the Dead....'you can stop the attackers by removing the head or destroying the brain...I'll repeat that....by removing the head or destroying the brain.'

Posted by: CanaDave at August 08, 2011 05:27 PM (0fQve)

49 The police need to be allowed to do their jobs. If that doesn't happen, call-out the army.

Posted by: 80sBaby at August 08, 2011 05:27 PM (o2lIv)

Mark in U.K.,

Thank you for the report.

Are prayers are with you and your country at this hour.

Posted by: journolist at August 08, 2011 05:27 PM (Fb9Q0)

London's burning dial 9-9-9-braaaaaaaaaaaaaaiiiiins

Posted by: Zombie Joe Strummer at August 08, 2011 05:27 PM (xy9wk)

52 Posted by: Mark The Lurker at August 08, 2011 09:20 PM (0PjMy)

Not trying to be a tallywhacker, but it suck about your gun laws

Posted by: beedubya at August 08, 2011 05:28 PM (AnTyA)

53 So ya thought ya might like to go to the show...

Posted by: Pink at August 08, 2011 05:28 PM (FUEui)

54 They're going to look at us with their mouths open and say, "But that doesn't make any sense! Why would they do that?" And for lack of anything better to say, we'll tell them the allegorical story of the scorpion and the frog. Maybe they'll understand, a bit. Posted by: Secundus at August 08, 2011 09:23 PM (jUFEy) They thought if they wrecked the "existing order" they'd get power, instead they got rubble. That's what it always is, from the small to the large, every aggressive, undermining, destructive act by the non-insane is an excercise in power and control - the core motivations vary somewhat, but from the petulant child who cries "racist" in public to shut down an argument to the politician who obliquely urges censorship to the "community organizer" who plans street mayhem, it's all about "I'm the one who has power here!" Enough people have and act off that instinct that human history is pretty much a history of bloodshed. Oh, shit, I was supposed to be cheering you up, wasn't I? Sorry.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 08, 2011 05:28 PM (bxiXv)

55 Am I going to have to go abroad to show off my outfit and get those yahoos organized or something?

Posted by: Lord Humungus Wasteland Teahadi at August 08, 2011 05:28 PM (Yv6gq)

56 33 I step out of lurking to report right in the thick of the city. ItÂ’s been a bit . . . un-nerving here in North London tonight. Went out in the garden about 10 PM and could hear several sirens, mostly in the distance or travelling from north to the south. A couple of them went screaming by the house. There hasnÂ’t been any nonsense evident in this neighbourhoodÂ–and we have no reason to think it will occur. But it could. We hope it wonÂ’t. Talked to the neighbour (who is a London LFC fan and a tough old dog) and weÂ’re all safe w/ home security and watching each othersÂ’ backs. CanÂ’t come up with anything more profound to say other than prayers for All of Us, and special ones for the people who will suffer for a long time as a consequence of the lawlessness weÂ’re sitting in right now. There are a lot of decent people out there tonight who won't have a job to go to, who will have to live with the scars of this for a long time, and who can get very few answers to their questions other than "It was lawless recklessness by a bunch of jackals who tweeting and acting on impulse." Pah.

Posted by: Mark The Lurker at August 08, 2011 09:20 PM (0PjMy)

Guess you should have been able to carry a firearm? I'm sure it sucks, but,

"In democracy you get the government you deserve. Alternately you deserve the government you got."
~Josef Heller

Posted by: Tangonine, Tea Party Terrorist at August 08, 2011 05:28 PM (x3YFz)

57 I am also an American in London (I have been here for several years) and I can say that the neighborhoods in which this is happening, for the most part, are not 'muslim' ones. In fact, if you read the Telegraph's account, a large group of Turkish youths (100+) confronted a similarly large group of black youth who seemed to be trying to break into shops in Stoke Newington, an area with a lot of Turkish shops. Also, a group of 'youths' apparently tried to break into an Islamic bank near Whitechapel, but were chased of by a group of muslim youth who had gathered to guard the nearby East London Mosque. There does seem to be a characteristic trait shared by the criminal looters, but it is not an Islamic one. It is, no doubt, coordinated, and although I have friends and colleagues who have chosen to live in or near these neighborhoods, I have not, so I can not send you any first had pictures of the action.

Posted by: Charles at August 08, 2011 05:29 PM (7gkxN)

58 Not trying to be a tallywhacker, but it suck about your gun laws Posted by: beedubya at August 08, 2011 09:28 PM (AnTyA) YOU LEAVE MARK'S TALLY ALONE!

Posted by: Chris Crocker at August 08, 2011 05:30 PM (bxiXv)

59 Mark The Lurker--thanks for the update. Take care!

The 2012 olympics in London will be in full lockdown

I'd forgotten about those.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at August 08, 2011 05:30 PM (0vDuM)

60 @42 Just heard a bit ago on the news that one of the flash mobs is also acting up in Tower Hamlets--this is the area where gays have been attacked by Muslims--and one quick mention was made that "Asian youths" were also caught up in the violence. Who knows? There seems to be coordination by 'somone" in all of this--Twitter is playing a huge part. The police have warned that the full Big Brother of the UK will be called in to investigate all the tweets, CC cams, etc. I'd hate that job of going through billions of footage of dirt bags doing Bad Things. Ai, yi, yi.

Posted by: Mark The Lurker at August 08, 2011 05:30 PM (0PjMy)

61 Mark ad Charles, what are residents being told about the situation? Are you receiving any sort of instructions or updates? How long do they expect this to go on?

Posted by: Bobo Main at August 08, 2011 05:32 PM (piMMO)

62 It's not the muslims THIS TIME,because they didn't get their orders yet.They are waiting to get better numbers before they make their move.

Posted by: steevy at August 08, 2011 05:32 PM (eNbP/)

63 I say again ...

Posted by: Albert Pierrepoint at August 08, 2011 05:32 PM (QINKF)

64 but I've always had a great love of all things British

Does that include beans on toast...and Wham! ?

Posted by: beedubya at August 08, 2011 05:33 PM (AnTyA)

65 See? This is why I live in Colorado Springs. We have about 9,000 concealed carry permits out. Would. Never. Happen.

Posted by: Tangonine, Tea Party Terrorist at August 08, 2011 05:33 PM (x3YFz)

66 Am I going to have to go abroad to show off my outfit and get those yahoos organized or something?

Posted by: Lord Humungus Wasteland Teahadi at August 08, 2011 09:28 PM (Yv6gq)

This is why Breitbart only reads the comments.

Posted by: SlaveDog at August 08, 2011 05:34 PM (PidTa)

67 "In democracy you get the government you deserve. Alternately you deserve the government you got." ~Josef Heller Posted by: Tangonine, Tea Party Terrorist at August 08, 2011 09:28 PM (x3YFz) I've always hated that quote. It's collectivist, it assumes the sheep deserves what the wolves vote to have for dinner. If you try to apply it to history you immediately start running into horrific comparisons.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 08, 2011 05:34 PM (bxiXv)

68 A bit of machine pistol fire will take the confidence right out of a body.

Posted by: toby928™ at August 08, 2011 05:34 PM (GTbGH)

69 Britain, you've got red on you.

Posted by: Shaun at August 08, 2011 05:34 PM (ECjvn)

70 We've had mass black flash-mob crimes in Wisconsin, Illinois, Iowa, and elsewhere in that last three months, too. Our press (and our LEAs) don't think we can handle being told about them, either.

But I'm sure Holder is on the case...

Posted by: Rod Rescueman at August 08, 2011 05:34 PM (HwE/1)

This is clealy a 2nd Amendment issue.

Riots don't happen here because you might get your ass shot off.

Unless you live in Seattle or something.

Posted by: ErikW at August 08, 2011 05:34 PM (KsdMI)

In the hangover of the violence that spread through London, the uprisings seemed both inevitable and unthinkable. Over a few days in which attacks became a contagion the capital city of an advanced nation has reverted to a Hobbesian dystopia of chaos and brutality.

...

I read that in a BBC reporter's voice. The one they all use, that conveys a sense of enthusiastic Â… dismay.

Posted by: Michael Smith at August 08, 2011 05:35 PM (2Oas0)

@12: "The Kent State Solution would fix this shit quick."

Awfully sorry, old chap, but we tried that in Nor'n Ireland. Bloody Sunday and all, you might have heard of it. Anyway, turned out to be a bit of an "own goal," I'm afraid - drove IRA recruiting right smack through the roof. Put us in a sticky wicket for decades.

Posted by: Sir Nobby Dorrington-Smythe at August 08, 2011 05:35 PM (xy9wk)

74 52

London's burning dial 9-9-9-braaaaaaaaaaaaaaiiiiins

Posted by: Zombie Joe Strummer at August 08, 2011 09:27 PM (xy9wk)

I'm listening to that as I type this.

England is messed up in so many ways, but I'll always have love for the English.

Posted by: Where're my ping pong balls? at August 08, 2011 05:35 PM (XIXhw)

Oh, shit, I was supposed to be cheering you up, wasn't I? Sorry.

Yeah. They say those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. But I think we're doomed to repeat it anyway, because if history teaches us anything, it's that humans don't change. The same impulses that drove ancient Romans to burn cities down still drive people today; the only difference is the Roman didn't have Twitter and Facebook, and were a bit more up front about what they wanted.

Thanks for the input, Charles. Stay safe.

Posted by: Secundus at August 08, 2011 05:36 PM (jUFEy)

76 Kind of looks like the apocryphal world depicted in "Camp of the Saints" is emerging on a daily basis.

Posted by: Major Kong at August 08, 2011 05:36 PM (c2Xsm)

77 Heard a police spokesperson on the BBC call the youth activity "disorder", not rioting or looting. Unbelievable that they let rioting/looting go on for more than one night and didn't suspect it would gain a life of its own as an activity. Crazy.

Posted by: snowcrash at August 08, 2011 05:37 PM (jlpEh)

78 69 "In democracy you get the government you deserve. Alternately you deserve the government you got."
~Josef Heller

Posted by: Tangonine, Tea Party Terrorist at August 08, 2011 09:28 PM (x3YFz)

I've always hated that quote. It's collectivist, it assumes the sheep deserves what the wolves vote to have for dinner.

If you try to apply it to history you immediately start running into horrific comparisons.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 08, 2011 09:34 PM (bxiXv)

I agree, in a democracy, the sheep is fkd. This is why we have a republic. Sort of.

Posted by: Tangonine, Tea Party Terrorist at August 08, 2011 05:37 PM (x3YFz)

79 England is messed up in so many ways, but I'll always have love for the English.

They gave us Locke, Hume, Burke..

...and Pippa Middleton

Posted by: beedubya at August 08, 2011 05:37 PM (AnTyA)

80 I grew up in MN/WI and believe me, I'd have been on a 2nd Amendment shopping trip to Farm & Fleet (Fart & Fleem) and would have bought much more than jerky and a garden thermometer. There's been lots of talk tonight about moving back to the States/WI, but I understand you had the WI State Fair that looked a lot like London tonight? All of this has the same "flavor." There are communites and they seem to have organizers. Hmmm. Think the two are related somehow?

Posted by: Mark The Lurker at August 08, 2011 05:37 PM (0PjMy)

81 There seems to be coordination by 'somone" in all of this--Twitter is playing a huge part.

Yeah, there's a lot of social media coordination going on here. The people sending out these tweets and blackberry messages are going to be easy to find, and no doubt the crown prosecution service is going to be looking to make examples.

Posted by: Ace's liver at August 08, 2011 05:38 PM (XIXhw)

82 78 Kind of looks like the apocryphal world depicted in "Camp of the Saints" is emerging on a daily basis.

Posted by: Major Kong at August 08, 2011 09:36 PM (c2Xsm)

got ammo?

Posted by: Tangonine, Tea Party Terrorist at August 08, 2011 05:38 PM (x3YFz)

Welcome to the tipping point.

Posted by: journolist at August 08, 2011 05:38 PM (Fb9Q0)

84 They're going to have to sack up, call in the army and let them do their thing (shoot some yutes.)

As for this coming here, it already has. This isn't much of a leap from the recent events in Milwaukee. I'm just waiting for the shit to really hit the fan when one of these yutes over here tries the "pull a man out of his car for a bit of the ol' ultraviolence" routine on an armed citizen. That scenario is just a matter of time.

Honestly, the whole Wisconsin fair thing has me thinking I don't roll deep enough on ammo. 7+7+1 .40cal seemed sufficient a week ago.

Posted by: DanInMN at August 08, 2011 05:39 PM (kIgEM)

85 Yeah, there's a lot of social media coordination going on here. The people sending out these tweets and blackberry messages are going to be easy to find, and no doubt the crown prosecution service is going to be looking to make examples.

Aaannnd there's your justification for tracking communications.

Posted by: Obama's Civilian Defense Force at August 08, 2011 05:39 PM (piMMO)

86 One of their dailies had reported that Tottenham, where these 'festivities' first broke out, is a black neighborhood. Apparently there have been other instances in the past of festivities there per the report. Sorry no linky.

As to the new areas flaring up, I haven't seen diddly on who's to blame other than yoots. If it was muslims, their press euphemism for that group is 'Asians'.

Posted by: GnuBreed at August 08, 2011 05:39 PM (ENKCw)

87 82 I grew up in MN/WI and believe me, I'd have been on a 2nd Amendment shopping trip to Farm & Fleet (Fart & Fleem) and would have bought much more than jerky and a garden thermometer. There's been lots of talk tonight about moving back to the States/WI, but I understand you had the WI State Fair that looked a lot like London tonight? All of this has the same "flavor." There are communites and they seem to have organizers. Hmmm. Think the two are related somehow?

Posted by: Mark The Lurker at August 08, 2011 09:37 PM (0PjMy)

The left keeps throwing gas on the race fire... all bets are off.

Posted by: Tangonine, Tea Party Terrorist at August 08, 2011 05:39 PM (x3YFz)

88 Was it Snoop Dogg or Dr. Dre, I can never remember, that said... "rat-a-tat-tat tat-a-tat like that, never hesitate to put the underclass on his back"...

Posted by: Brock O'Bama at August 08, 2011 05:40 PM (/WZ6r)

89 You betcha!

Posted by: Major Kong at August 08, 2011 05:41 PM (c2Xsm)

U.K. Mark,

We would welcome you back States side anytime brother.

It's Fleet Farm and they got it all.

There seems to be the waft of an outside catalyst provoking this. Something smacks of an inorganic nature to it but I don't know.

Whatever the influence may have been, it is happening and whoever or whatever cause is influencing this must conclude the world is in a hyper-state of influence and has summarily reached a virtual tipping point.

Please provide comment.

Posted by: journolist at August 08, 2011 05:41 PM (Fb9Q0)

91 Bobo Main I have not heard anything from the authorities. I don't think that there is any reason to. For the most part, to me, it seem like it is certain neighborhoods devouring themselves. And like I said before, I don't live in those neighborhoods nor do I frequent them. Though I will say that London, even with this stuff going on, is generally safer than any major city that I have lived in in the US. I grew up in Houston, and have lived for a considerable amount of time in Atlanta, Tampa, and San Francisco, and there I always knew which parts of town I should NEVER visit. It is not the same here in London. And even with these riots, I will not feel unsafe in the neighborhoods in which they are happening if I go to them tomorrow (just maybe not right now). Like I said, it seems to me like a self-devouring of some people, used by other people (gangs and anarchist/far-left socialists) to try to advance their goals. In the end, there will be less sympathy for these people here. The downfall of Britain due to multi-culti sentiment may be exaggerated.

Posted by: Charles at August 08, 2011 05:42 PM (7gkxN)

92 88 One of their dailies had reported that Tottenham, where these 'festivities' first broke out, is a black neighborhood. But I thought "black neighborhoods" could only exist in societies with a long pattern of discrimination against blacks? Wasn't that was Holder's Department of Social Justice argued??

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 08, 2011 05:42 PM (kUaEF)

93 The evidence so far points to more ignominy for the rudderless Met

It wasn't us, it was the Yankees.

Posted by: Mets Fan at August 08, 2011 05:42 PM (4nfy2)

94 The BBC is being quite "objective" tonight. The Police Commissioner has said the right things: we deplore this--go home--parents, do you know where your children are?--the CC coverage works just fine and we will find you and there will be consequences. Same with Twitter (Blackberry has also agreed to help find the perps.) It's disgusting and grievous to see furniture stores, vehicles (including firetrucks), and people's private residences in roiling flames. God be with their families.

Posted by: Mark The Lurker at August 08, 2011 05:43 PM (0PjMy)

95 FORE!

Posted by: Barack Obama at August 08, 2011 05:43 PM (x3YFz)

96 Seriously: In half a century, when kids are asking us what the fuck happened to Western society, what are we going to say? That the professors and the lawyers allied with the street thugs and religious nutcases to burn it all down?

All this reminds of that interview with John Cleese where he says London is no longer an English city so he lives in an English version of Podunk.

No shit, you unfunny, untalented fuck knuckle. You and the rest of the "enlightened set" did everything you could to tear down tradition and create what London is today.

Posted by: beedubya at August 08, 2011 05:43 PM (AnTyA)

97 Must be those damned Lutherans again.

Posted by: Dick_Nixon at August 08, 2011 05:43 PM (IEEUv)

98 Best thing about the BBC Live Stream: the volume control goes to 11.

Posted by: Beck at August 08, 2011 05:44 PM (wlndU)

99 That's racist.

If they're not white and christian then the media acts like they don't exist.

Posted by: That's Mr Hobbit to you at August 08, 2011 05:44 PM (sbaXF)

100 Cal week officially call August 2011 the Month of Fuck?

Posted by: tangonine, Tea Party Terrorist at August 08, 2011 05:45 PM (x3YFz)

101

Heard a police spokesperson on the BBC call the youth activity "disorder", not rioting or looting.

Posted by: snowcrash at August 08, 2011 09:37 PM (jlpEh)

Or buildings in flames. The British have been completely neutered.

Posted by: ErikW at August 08, 2011 05:45 PM (KsdMI)

102

Apologies if previously posted posted, impressive photos of London riots

http://tinyurl.com/42r9oc7

Posted by: snowcrash at August 08, 2011 05:46 PM (jlpEh)

103 The yobs will be bitching tomorrow, when all that's left is rubble, the the government needs to rebuild.

Posted by: Bob Schieffer with a bottle of Viagra and the NewYork Times concealing his lap at August 08, 2011 05:46 PM (ijjAe)

104 >There's been lots of talk tonight about moving back to the States/WI, but I understand you had the WI State Fair that looked a lot like London tonight?

Yes, it does sound a lot like it Mark. But, the difference is Wisconsinites will be able to carry in 3 months. Minnesotans already can. Iowans can as January 1, 2011. None of these "flash mobs" have happened where people can defend themselves, yet. I suspect it will only happen once.

Posted by: DanInMN at August 08, 2011 05:46 PM (kIgEM)

105

OT -- SPX futures down 18 pts....ouch

Posted by: Olliander at August 08, 2011 05:47 PM (6UZWM)

106 Oh look, there's a reference to a book that blames the rich people! And then she mentions just how prophetic it is! There's a shocker!

I suppose we'll soon be hearing from the LSD/MSM about how we could be London if we don't do something right away about the "social injustice" in this country. The fact that England is much farther down the Socialist black hole than we ever were will make no never mind to them. Much like none of the chaos that came about in the other heavily socialist countries that flat out vaporized their financial abilities to support said system. One would assume that the current events over there would make someone understand that the warm and fuzzy idea of socialism doesn't work. You run out of money at some point, like they did. And they ran out while enjoying the convenience of having large numbers of American military stationed in their countries, greatly reducing their need to budget for their own defense.

Ya know, one time when I was young, I pissed into the wind and my shoes got wet. After that, I made sure to piss with the wind at my back. I can only assume that the liberal buffoons who are trying to push this crap down our collective throats must like having wet feet.

Posted by: GVii at August 08, 2011 05:47 PM (nLe8v)

107 I'm just waiting for the shit to really hit the fan when one of these yutes over here tries the "pull a man out of his car for a bit of the ol' ultraviolence" routine on an armed citizen.

That happened near Mobile after the Rodney King/Reginald Denny thing. The victim drove to the police station and said I don't know what the hell just happened but some guy tried to drag me out of my pickup truck at the stop light. The police said Where is the guy? The man replied He's still laying back in the intersection. I didn't check to see if he was dead, I just got the hell out of there.

Posted by: toby928™ at August 08, 2011 05:48 PM (GTbGH)

108 Well, Charles, a bit of taking out the rubbish might be a good thing. Let them destroy themselves and leave the rest, the good folk such as yourself, with fewer scoundrels with whom to contend when it is over.

I've never been to London but do so hope to visit some day.

Posted by: Obama's Civilian Defense Force at August 08, 2011 05:48 PM (piMMO)

109 I wish the Queen would use her power to disband parliament and call for new elections, and in the meantime order the Royal Marines to fix bayonets on the enemies of Britannia.

Posted by: Bob Schieffer with a bottle of Viagra and the NewYork Times concealing his lap at August 08, 2011 05:49 PM (ijjAe)

110 108 We like golden showers.

Posted by: MFM at August 08, 2011 05:50 PM (eNbP/)

111

>>"It's pretty amazing that there are major riots going on in a world capital and the media won't tell us anything about them, out of a belief we that terminally, willfully naive, race-blind liberals of every stripe can't handle it."

Just needed a bit of editorial tweaking there. You're welcome.

Posted by: Commissioner Gordon at August 08, 2011 05:50 PM (L00d6)

112 The yobs will be bitching tomorrow, when all that's left is rubble, the the government needs to rebuild.

That's what happened after the Rodney King riots, and they got the money, too. Not only that, the government forced grocery store chains and banks to reopen branches in those areas.

Posted by: Ace's liver at August 08, 2011 05:51 PM (XIXhw)

113 Having read the comments here from those who are in Once Great Britan and also having read about the flash mobs here in the US, all I can say is that I'm glad that I stocked up on .45 ACP, 7.62x54R, and 7.62x51.

Posted by: akornzombie at August 08, 2011 05:51 PM (0Epuf)

114 109 I'm just waiting for the shit to really hit the fan when one of these yutes over here tries the "pull a man out of his car for a bit of the ol' ultraviolence" routine on an armed citizen.

That happened near Mobile after the Rodney King/Reginald Denny thing. The victim drove to the police station and said I don't know what the hell just happened but some guy tried to drag me out of my pickup truck at the stop light. The police said Where is the guy? The man replied He's still laying back in the intersection. I didn't check to see if he was dead, I just got the hell out of there.

Posted by: toby928Â™ at August 08, 2011 09:48 PM (GTbGH)

try dragging me out of my car and you're going to have a canoe for a head.

Posted by: tangonine, Tea Party Terrorist at August 08, 2011 05:52 PM (x3YFz)

115 I agree with you, Charles, that this seems to be groups that are self-devouring their communities. I disagree, however, that the multi-culti is exaggerated. I think Britain is finally waking up to how MANY different racial stews they have to sort out. And this still is, for the most part, a safe city. Even tonight, even now at 02.50 in the morning, I'd walk up to the High Street to buy a pint of milk. London's like that. But will it remain like that? Tonight in thinking through what's happened today, I can smell The Doom.

Posted by: Mark The Lurker at August 08, 2011 05:53 PM (0PjMy)

116 115 Having read the comments here from those who are in Once Great Britan and also having read about the flash mobs here in the US, all I can say is that I'm glad that I stocked up on .45 ACP, 7.62x54R, and 7.62x51.

Posted by: akornzombie at August 08, 2011 09:51 PM (0Epuf)

Dammit, .303 is expensive.

Posted by: Ace's liver at August 08, 2011 05:54 PM (XIXhw)

117 I'll be carrying both (yes, both) my sig p229 and my glock 30 from now on.

Posted by: tangonine, Tea Party Terrorist at August 08, 2011 05:55 PM (x3YFz)

118 panic in the streets of london
i wonder to myself could life ever be sane again?
so u run down to the safety of the town, but there's panic on the streets of carlisle
dublin.dundee, humberside

Posted by: zombie judy garland at August 08, 2011 05:57 PM (FduBR)

119 Dammit, .303 is expensive.

Posted by: Ace's liver at August 08, 2011 09:54 PM (XIXhw)

Tell me about it. I suggest you get an Ishy Enfield in 7.62 - all the joys of a Lee, with the commonality of 7.62 NATO.

Posted by: akornzombie at August 08, 2011 05:57 PM (0Epuf)

120 No blackout here.

Check your Public Television station(s).

I can watch BBC World News and BBC World News America, in addition to Journal from DW-TV, France 24 News, and the AOSHQ favorite, Al Jazeera English News.

Posted by: Chuckit at August 08, 2011 05:58 PM (DHcc4)

121

...and we have lots of guns that are locked and loaded that aren't concealed.
Good to see another moron / Tea Party Terrorist here.

================

See? This is why I live in Colorado Springs. We have about 9,000 concealed carry permits out. Would. Never. Happen.
Posted by: Tangonine, Tea Party Terrorist

Posted by: jaggedskye at August 08, 2011 06:03 PM (HwMXR)

122 Singing- "Nobody knows what it's like to be a dustbin in Shaftsbury... with hooligans..."

Posted by: Darth Randall at August 08, 2011 06:04 PM (O/onO)

123 Well Mark (before I go to bed as you know what time it is here, and as some of us in this city have work to do tomorrow that does not involve selling stolen plasma screen tvs), I will agree with you that this country (kingdom?) does have many different racial, ethnic, and cultural conflicts and potential conflicts that they need to sort out and which will not be sorted out by Cameron's 'Big Society', but what I was meaning to say was that this past week's events will more than likely end up bolstering the idea that people here need to get with the program or get out rather than leading to more overt sympathy and social programs for so-called 'marginal' or 'at-risk' groups. And if I am wrong, and the opposite occurs, I am so effin outta here. Anybody got any suggestions to where I can go to?

Posted by: Charles at August 08, 2011 06:04 PM (7gkxN)

124 One "wish" we talked about tonight is that Cameron has called his holiday short and is flying back to London to deal with the racial riots. I wish that he'd get off the plane and announce that from this moment on, he's re-instituting Capital Punishment, and anyone whose criminal acts result in a loss of life will be hanging on a gibbet on Tower Hill. These kids quite literally consider an ASBO (Anti-Social Behaviour Order) a badge of honour. They laugh on camera when warned about them. They know it will be a six-month suspended sentence and/or attending a government run camp where they will be told that there are gentler, nicer ways for them to vent their anger. These places need lots of sports equipment, furniture, and copious amounts of tea and biscuits at hand. Sometimes they even take some of the more troubled Yoots on trips to the south of Spain to aid in their therapy. Tower Hill and gibbets for the worst--hard labour for the the second tier. Can we borrow Sheriff Joe Arpaiho? (He's too busy. Sigh.)

Posted by: Mark The Lurker at August 08, 2011 06:07 PM (0PjMy)

125

This is the FSA (Free Shit Army) on the warpath.

That is coming here, make no mistake. As the Ponzi collapses, the FSA will go feral.

Posted by: publius(NotBreitbartPublius) at August 08, 2011 06:07 PM (VVB18)

126 Rise of Planet of the Apes opened in London this weekend too! YAY!!!

Posted by: Swiftsure at August 08, 2011 06:11 PM (FAVN+)

127
BBC 2322:

Former London mayor and future mayoral candidate Ken Livingstone tells the BBC that the anger is fuelled by disengagement.

"There is a level of despair out there. We have got to have a government that speaks to the whole community, not just the layer at the top."

Good Lord, "Red Ken" is still around?

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 08, 2011 06:11 PM (EeYDk)

128 It's pretty amazing that there are major riots going on in a world capital and the media won't tell us anything about them, out of a belief we can't handle it.

They're worshipers of Jack Nicholson.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at August 08, 2011 06:14 PM (UF15p)

129 Oh, so it's being caused by "disengagement."

Sure.

Or maybe, just maybe, it's happening because it can, and the perps rioting pieces of sh*t know that the police/ normal citizens don't have the means to stop them.

Posted by: shibumi at August 08, 2011 06:16 PM (z63Tr)

130 All I can say is that Glenn Beck is a prophet. I swear he was saying exactly what is happening now would happen a year ago. He is a modern day John the Baptist.

Posted by: Bill Mitchell at August 08, 2011 06:18 PM (uVlA4)

131 Red Ken is still around. (I saw him buying eggs at the local Waitrose store a couple weeks ago--to go home and suck them dry?) He speaks a few words of poo gas once in awhile and then goes back to his private life, but he's still out there. Have you heard Boris, the new mayor? Have you SEEN Boris Johnson? Goofball extraordinaire, but the man has and is bringing business to London. He's all over the map like a mad woman's shit, but ultimately he's a big improvement on Ken. You'll see him plastered all over the 2012 Olympics.

Posted by: Mark The Lurker at August 08, 2011 06:19 PM (0PjMy)

132 I can't remember hearing anything about the nominal cause of this one.

Some thug was killed by police during a shootout.

Posted by: Lauren at August 08, 2011 06:25 PM (Ws7wI)

133 Also, I recommend everyone watch Harry Brown on netflix.

Posted by: Lauren at August 08, 2011 06:26 PM (Ws7wI)

134 "Youth" riots? Yeah, them youths at it again!

Posted by: Sal at August 08, 2011 06:32 PM (v5IXp)

135 Sophisticated and enlightened, we are, you imperialistic dolts.

Posted by: Eurotrash Loser at August 08, 2011 06:36 PM (iRlbA)

136

He noted that despite all the talk of this being a response to poverty, the looters are wearing designed tracksuits and communicating by I-Phones.

Posted by: beedubya at August 08, 2011 09:16 PM (AnTyA)

I can't believe nobody said this: free obama phones for all!!!

Posted by: Cicerokid at August 08, 2011 06:37 PM (DdES4)

137

Um, odd there has not been any reported flash mobs or youth riots in Texas. I think the flash would be short-lived along with a few youths.

135 I can't remember hearing anything about the nominal cause of this one.
Some thug was killed by police during a shootout.
Posted by: Lauren at August 08, 2011 10:25 PM (Ws7wI) I read that the British police were cracking down on a black dude with a gun (described as a "29 yo father of 4"which makes him seem pitiful) in a heavily black populated part of London. There was a bullet in the radio of one of the police, proving they were returning fire. Yet...how dare they arrest a black dude? Honestly, at this point, it just becomes mob mentality of looting and burning, as this is the third straight night. If you polled 90% of these thugs they would not give the original reason for the riot tonight. Look up Watt's Riot in LA from 1965 and you will see this is old news.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky at August 08, 2011 06:39 PM (FnRYN)

138

For a society already under severe economic strain, the rioting raised new questions about the political sustainability of the Cameron governmentÂ’s spending cuts, particularly the deep cutbacks in social programs. These have hit the countryÂ’s poor especially hard, including large numbers of the minority youths who have been at the forefront of the unrest.

- New York Times...straight news article, not opinion or even one of those opinion maslked as reporting "news analysis" articles.

For those who can't hear the liberal dog whistle, it means "The Tea Party did it".

Posted by: cleaningmygun at August 08, 2011 06:42 PM (YVgim)

139 Look at the film of the riots. The 'youths' aren't White or 'Asian ' ( British media term for Arabs )

Much dancing around the Obvious, there is

Posted by: SantaRosaStan, uberhaupt nicht ein Nazi at August 08, 2011 06:45 PM (UqKQV)

140 Posted by: cleaningmygun at August 08, 2011 10:42 PM (YVgim)

If you only knew of the incredible crimes and riots that took place doing the Great Depression.

Posted by: Sal at August 08, 2011 06:46 PM (v5IXp)

141 78 Kind of looks like the apocryphal world depicted in "Camp of the Saints" is emerging on a daily basis.

Posted by: Major Kong at August 08, 2011 09:36 PM (c2Xsm)

Ah yes. The reality is not nearly as overwhelming as the book, but the end result may be very similar.

Posted by: Cooter at August 08, 2011 06:46 PM (C06Qq)

142 Before the weekend I commented to a friend that I had the feeling we were reaching a boiling point where a wrong sideways glance could set it all off. He joked that I read too much Dalrymple.

Posted by: fb at August 08, 2011 06:51 PM (7UHMz)

143 Fifty years ago young British men fought to keep London from burning. Now they're fucking setting it on fire.

Posted by: Trimegistus at August 08, 2011 06:52 PM (dsnMP)

144

I wish that he'd get off the plane and announce that from this moment on, he's re-instituting Capital Punishment, and anyone whose criminal acts result in a loss of life will be hanging on a gibbet on Tower Hill.

I'm rested and ready to tackle the backlog. Bring 'em on.

Posted by: Albert Pierrepoint at August 08, 2011 07:09 PM (QINKF)

145 Still waiting on Britain to elect their first Brit of African descent as Prime Minister.

They were so proud of us doing so. Said it would solve all of our nasty racial division.

Posted by: sifty the Tearrorist at August 08, 2011 07:12 PM (ECjvn)

146 think i give a shit?

Posted by: D. Hopper Badger at August 08, 2011 07:34 PM (kBWjM)

147 Fifty years ago young British men fought to keep London from burning. Now they're fucking setting it on fire.
-------------------

They're not British.

Posted by: Essex at August 08, 2011 07:40 PM (v5IXp)

148 There are no doubts that he shot at a cop who would have been dead but for the fact that the bullet hit and embedded in the radio he was wearing.

Posted by: mike at August 08, 2011 08:00 PM (Qg0Un)

149 When is Obama going to announce we are supporting the rebels?

Posted by: Huey at August 08, 2011 08:30 PM (RwnNj)

150

Not original but apt and damned funny: Religion of Pieces

Off topic, but the purveyers of hate are justifying the Wisconsin thuggaries at the State Fair as freedom of association and freedom of expression.

Posted by: medulla oblongata at August 08, 2011 08:30 PM (sNgH6)

151 What Essex 150 said ... which is what my grandfather told me 25 years ago. "They're not British, and they don't want to be British, but Britain imported them"

Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at August 08, 2011 08:41 PM (aEzwb)

152 wogs

Posted by: torabora at August 08, 2011 09:26 PM (Mvp1M)

153 Frickin' AP-Pravda reflects the talking points from our own scurrilous, demonizing, lying Leftist media by quoting a very ignorant and stupid <i>anarchist</i> protester:

"This is the uprising of the working class. We're redistributing the wealth," said Bryn Phillips, a 28-year-old self-described anarchist, as young people emerged from the store with chocolate bars and ice cream cones.

Phillips claimed rioters were motivated by distrust of the police, and drew a link between the rage on London's street and insurgent right-wing politics in the United States. <b>"In America you have the tea party, in England you've got this,"</b> he said.

What a fabulous display of totally twisted Leftist "thought". (I'm not sure these imbeciles can actually think.) Phillips can't even understand the basic correlation between opposing ideas, i.e. "redistributing the wealth" and the Tea Party's complete, indisputable opposition to it.

Good grief! AP/Pravda doesn't allow comments.

Posted by: fava beans and a nice chianti at August 08, 2011 09:31 PM (r1b5V)

154 121 Posted by: zombie judy garland at August 08, 2011 09:57 PM (FduBR)

I was thinking more:

Geezers need excitement
If their lives don't provide it then
They might incite violence.
Common sense
Simple common sense.
(The Streets, "Geezers Need Excitement")

Posted by: Bender Bending Rodriguez at August 08, 2011 10:32 PM (1H47k)

155 I'm watching rioters in London looting a convenience store on CNN. Am I racist for noticing that all the looters are black? The rioters chased the CNN crew off. They came back five hours later to the shop which was picked clean of everything.

Posted by: Tantor at August 08, 2011 10:35 PM (790qt)

156 There are so much to learn from your post here, Uma, well done.

Posted by: Domestic Violets Audio Book at August 09, 2011 04:35 AM (fo+co)

157 Wow. Same people. Every time.
Every. Single. Time.
Ain't PC Just Wonderful?

Posted by: drolmorg at August 09, 2011 07:36 AM (QygYK)

158 ..'you can stop the attackers by removing the head or destroying the brain...I'll repeat that....by removing the head or destroying the brain.' I know it's from a movie, but I just bet that would work ...

Posted by: Steve Johnson at August 09, 2011 11:26 AM (lr+d3)

159 37 are these british youths or "asian youths"....

Posted by: phreshone at August 08, 2011 09:20 PM (T3vCe)

======================

Immigrant youths living in ethnic slums. Blacks and Muslims. The result of an unchallenged tribal belief that "We are the only group that's worthwhile, and this place we immigrated to has an absolute obligation to provide what we need, as well as everything we want, while we (of course) have no corresponding obligation to adapt ourselves in any way to the society and customs of the country we've moved to. Now we're going to show you how strong we've become on your dollar (or pound, or euro): we DEMAND respect, we DEMAND cultural autonomy, and we DEMAND continued tribute from this host society we've chosen to parasitize. Ha ha ha."

Posted by: A_Nonny_Mouse at August 09, 2011 11:58 AM (hq0VE)

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