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December 12, 2011

"But so far as liberalism goes, this is a pretty devastating graph"
— Ace

So says Ezra "Expanding the welfare state decreases deficits" Klein.

Via @danriehl, @jimpethokoukis, and @therickwilson. And also, I guess, @everyoneelseontheinternet

I think Jonah Goldberg linked, for some reason, this old post, containing the single greatest Daily Kos "diary" entry ever.

The hot tears, they do flow.

Posted by: Ace at 04:29 PM | Comments (131)
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1 Foist!

Posted by: Ron Paul! at December 12, 2011 04:31 PM (TCyyS)

2 1965 That's, like, a hunnert years ago.

Posted by: E. Klein at December 12, 2011 04:31 PM (MMC8r)

3 Less than 10% for big labor. W.A.F.!!

Posted by: Bob Undead Saget at December 12, 2011 04:31 PM (dBvlk)

4 I just bought another dozen 100 watt light bulbs. screw you WH.

Posted by: poljunkie at December 12, 2011 04:31 PM (XuiJf)

5 Ezra K. lost 50% of his penile brains.

Posted by: CoolCzech at December 12, 2011 04:32 PM (niZvt)

6 That's a pretty weird dip in big government circa 2002. Was that when Enron went to shit?

Posted by: Christina Hendricks's Mighty Jugs Supports Rick Perry's Hair for President at December 12, 2011 04:32 PM (TCyyS)

7 Interesting that it dropped right after 9/11

Posted by: William Amos at December 12, 2011 04:33 PM (NTnm3)

8 That is a green outline of Bob Dole's member at the 3 hour mark, folks.

Posted by: Bob Dole at December 12, 2011 04:33 PM (niZvt)

9 So 9/11 bought "big government" about 10 years of good will, but it's gone now. Interesting.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 12, 2011 04:33 PM (Lpdzt)

10 Business and government are mirror-images.

Posted by: nickless will probably get accidentally banned again soon at December 12, 2011 04:34 PM (MMC8r)

11 >>>That's a pretty weird dip in big government circa 2002. Was that when Enron went to shit? no it was 9/11. Government confidence was boosted only due to first responders and the military. The strong men, not the pencil-necked economy-planners and tax lice.

Posted by: ace at December 12, 2011 04:35 PM (nj1bB)

12 Ace, Ypu'll be pleased to know I asked Iran to return your 50 percent missing penile worms, asshole.

Posted by: Barry Obama at December 12, 2011 04:36 PM (niZvt)

13 I'm not so sure there's much of a difference between Big Government and Big Labor.

And thanks to "too big to fail" and all that, Big Government and Big Business are blurring together, too.

As I see it, the biggest threat is Big Bigness.

Posted by: sandy burger at December 12, 2011 04:36 PM (ErTq7)

14 So, do you think Jonah is unaware that Che Che is satire? Surely not.

Posted by: toby928© Perrykrishna with tattooed knuckles at December 12, 2011 04:37 PM (GTbGH)

15 was che-che satire? I don't remember that being proven. Was that proven?

Posted by: ace at December 12, 2011 04:39 PM (nj1bB)

16 tax lice

Nice.

Posted by: toby928© Perrykrishna with tattooed knuckles at December 12, 2011 04:39 PM (GTbGH)

17 Was that proven?

I think so. I'll google.

Posted by: toby928© Perrykrishna with tattooed knuckles at December 12, 2011 04:40 PM (GTbGH)

18 That graph doesn't add up to 100%, btw. 2% ... out there .. Lurking. Fear the unknown unknowns, Mr. Klein. Fear them.

Posted by: BumperStickerist at December 12, 2011 04:41 PM (h6mPj)

19 But cutting funding and reducing the size of government, we feel that isn't the hill to die on. Next hill...over there on the ridge....THATS the one.

Posted by: Concerned Republican in Congress at December 12, 2011 04:42 PM (FIDMq)

20 So 9/11 bought "big government" about 10 years of good will, but it's gone now. Interesting.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 12, 2011 08:33 PM (Lpdzt)

Why do you think we were so gleeful?

Posted by: Bush Administration at December 12, 2011 04:42 PM (Smq5r)

21 That graph doesn't add up to 100%, btw.

We are the 98%!!!

Posted by: Occupy Gallup at December 12, 2011 04:43 PM (ErTq7)

22 That Kos entry might be, simultaneously, one of the most pathetic and funniest things I've read on the web.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 12, 2011 04:43 PM (piMMO)

23 How dare you doubt the tears of Little CheChe!

Posted by: Medium CheChe at December 12, 2011 04:44 PM (8tNDt)

24 The funniest thing to me is that the highest level was when Bill Jeff was in office.

Posted by: William Amos at December 12, 2011 04:45 PM (NTnm3)

25 Ya the name CheChe and Little Che Che-although with liberals it's pretty hard to do satire...

Posted by: tasker at December 12, 2011 04:45 PM (r2PLg)

26 1965 That's, like, a hunnert years ago.

Posted by: E. Klein at December 12, 2011 08:31 PM (MMC8r)

Like, fer shure!

Posted by: Meggie Mac at December 12, 2011 04:45 PM (FP6bs)

it's weird, when ace puts in a link, my popup blocker won't let me open it.

with the loggers of cob, I don't have that problem.

Posted by: garrett at December 12, 2011 04:46 PM (Smq5r)

28 I think my daughter could tell something was wrong.

You don't say.

Posted by: really ... at December 12, 2011 04:46 PM (X3lox)

29 I think Katrina is what ended the 9/11 bounce.

Posted by: William Amos at December 12, 2011 04:46 PM (NTnm3)

30 Maybe the 2% are with me. In the wasteland. I noticed we were not mentioned. Come visit!

Posted by: Lord Humungus at December 12, 2011 04:47 PM (Yv6gq)

31 Apparently there were multiple CheChe posts with virtually the same lines so probably satire. I seem to remember CheChe confessing somewhere. I could look further, except I'm too lazy. Maybe after another beer.

Posted by: toby928© Perrykrishna with tattooed knuckles at December 12, 2011 04:47 PM (GTbGH)

32 I think my daughter could tell something was wrong.

You don't say.

Posted by: really ... at December 12, 2011 08:46 PM (X3lox)

She was right, Bush should have invaded Chicago.

Posted by: robtr at December 12, 2011 04:47 PM (MtwBb)

33 I think Little CheChe is Alec Baldwin's pet name for his...iPhone...

Posted by: tasker at December 12, 2011 04:48 PM (r2PLg)

34 I'm not so sure there's much of a difference between Big Government and Big Labor.

There isn't, at least on the D side of the aisle.

Posted by: wytshus at December 12, 2011 04:49 PM (qzlmO)

"When I finished her lower lip started to tremble and her eyes began to fill with tears, Â“DaddyÂ” she said, Â“why am I bleeding?Â”

Posted by: garrett at December 12, 2011 04:49 PM (Smq5r)

36 I believe AoS covered that DK diary entry back then.

Posted by: Seth at December 12, 2011 04:50 PM (e6MoS)

37 You see, he wasnÂ’t sure if he was going to be arrested today or not, and so he planned Mr. BushÂ’s trip ahead of time just in caseÂ…Â”

So since this is prior to the fictional Plame caper, what were liberals claiming Rove had done illegally in 2003?

Posted by: 18-1 at December 12, 2011 04:50 PM (3aXbg)

38 As I see it, the biggest threat is Big Bigness.

Don't worry, I'll fix it.

Posted by: Your friendly neighborhood emerging debt singularity at December 12, 2011 04:50 PM (sOXQX)

39 Big Labor/Big Government = two sideso f the same coin. The unions are so embedded into the sandy vaginas of big government that it would take the blow torch powered by a thousand suns to burn them out.

Posted by: Christina Hendricks's Mighty Jugs Supports Rick Perry's Hair for President at December 12, 2011 04:50 PM (TCyyS)

containing the single greatest Daily Kos "diary" entry

That's the most pathetic thing I've ever read.

Posted by: ErikW at December 12, 2011 04:52 PM (cBYLQ)

41 That graph doesn't add up to 100%, btw.

2% ... out there ..

They're worried about me.

Posted by: Big E.T. at December 12, 2011 04:52 PM (sOXQX)

She was right, Bush should have invaded Chicago.

Posted by: robtr at December 12, 2011 08:47 PM (MtwBb)

Somebody should have. Instead, Chicago ran its own little coup on the US.

"Daddy CheChe, what is The Chicago Way?"

"That's just a street, darling. Nothing to worry yourself about."

Posted by: really ... at December 12, 2011 04:52 PM (X3lox)

43 Holy cow, it is old. AoSHQ June 13, 2006 "Tears of Shame"

Posted by: toby928© Perrykrishna with tattooed knuckles at December 12, 2011 04:53 PM (GTbGH)

44 SideBar: Sharp Knees: Old Interview of Karen Gillian on Craig Furgusen

Furgusen? Furgusen?

WTF spells his name Furgusen. Keerice and Beans.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 12, 2011 04:54 PM (mIucK)

45 Okay I'm a pretty young dude, what's up with all the Big Labor hate back in the late sixties and early seventies? I get the lack of it now, I don't think people equate public unions with private unions for some strange reason.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at December 12, 2011 04:54 PM (tKFT6)

46 War loving extremists, we can't afford another war.

Posted by: Ron Paul will Take Iowa at December 12, 2011 04:54 PM (iJ83s)

47 Holy cow, it is old. AoSHQ June 13, 2006 "Tears of Shame"

That's hardly culturally relevant any more.

Posted by: Some silly chick under the delusion that she's relevant at December 12, 2011 04:55 PM (sOXQX)

48 we can't afford another war.

We'll make it up in volume.

Posted by: toby928© Perrykrishna with tattooed knuckles at December 12, 2011 04:55 PM (GTbGH)

49 Okay I'm a pretty young dude, what's up with all the Big Labor hate back in the late sixties and early seventies?

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at December 12, 2011 08:54 PM (tKFT6)

Labor was much stronger back then. More to hate.

Posted by: really ... at December 12, 2011 04:55 PM (X3lox)

50 Here iss another CheChe: "I don't think I've ever seen such a look of misery and dejection on the face of my daughter as I just did a moment ago. She just couldn't understand why the President would be spying on everyone. 'Even my Grandma?' she asked pitifully. I sat down with her on the sofa and (as calmly as I could) tried to explain to her why the President has ordered a group of spies to collect information on every American. 'And yes honey, even Grandma,' I was forced to say." **** Ha!

Posted by: tasker at December 12, 2011 04:55 PM (r2PLg)

51 I never ever comment. i believe I am what you all call a troll or maybe lurker. But I do read most comments. I have lost ever Mfing thing I have. House credit, job everything. My credit 8 months ago was 750 good but not great. Today maybe I am at 400. I li9ve in good old Illinois, We have been BONED as Ace would say. Actually totally fucked.I guess what I have to say may piss alot of you off, but I think it needs to be said. I don't give a fuck if Romney signed healtcare, I don't give a fuck if Newt banged all his advisors, and I don't give a fuck if Perry wants to pray.... It doesn't matter.!!! What matters is my kids, my grandkids. What matters is getting that SCOAMF out...Is that the right letters for a Studdering clusterfuck of a miserablefailure. I am 51 years old and I can tall you morons that finding work has been tedious... Who gives a flying fuck if we only agree with a candidate only 50% of the time.Or maybe even 60 percent. My question is , How often you agree with bambi and this administration.? We will truly be fucked if he wins again. Can you say Marxist ???????? I guess what I am getting at is a quote that just popped into my head reading commens in the Perry thread... A house divided against itself will fail;... We have 2 months at most to become a "team" Nothing matters but beating obama. Or we will be boned totally with a cattle prod.... We need to get our act together... Thhe canidates need to attack bambi with every thing we have and we have alot. So lets stop bickering about our possibilities and go after our enemy.. I am tired and I am scared, but I will not falter. I will improvise, adapt and overcome....So quit bitchin about our candidates and hiold fuckin hands.. We are BONED if we don't

Posted by: pull the cattleprod outtamy ass at December 12, 2011 04:56 PM (E504d)

52 There are a lot of little cheche posts. Here's one --------------------- I don't think I've ever seen such a look of misery and dejection on the face of Barack as I just did a moment ago. He sat down with me on the sofa and (as calmly as he could) tried to explain to me why the Republicans want to starve little children and take Social Security away from the elderly in order to give coporoate jet owners wads of cash. He tried to keep his voice steady, but it became increasingly difficult - the rage and feelings of helplessnes were just too much. I could tell something was wrong. I found myself at such a loss for words - nothing made any sense; nothing makes sense anymore. I finally had to admit, "Barry, I just don't know - I don't know what's going on in this country anymore..." When he finished my lower lip started to tremble and my eyes began to fill with tears, "Michelle" he said, "why are the Republicans doing this to the country?" Well, that was it for me: I finally fell apart. I just fell into his arms and we both began sobbing for several minutes. He had to comfort me and get me back on my feet. Sometimes I just think itÂ’s too much, but seeing the strength in Barack's voice helped me to get through. ---------- http://thevimh.blogspot.com/2011/07/michelle- obama-channels-her-inner.html

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at December 12, 2011 04:56 PM (DxKBi)

53 They're worried about me.
Posted by: Big E.T.

You don't say...

Posted by: Big Tinfoil at December 12, 2011 04:57 PM (HfydS)

54 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.Fuck you clarence,I said it again and I'll keep on saying it.

Posted by: steevy at December 12, 2011 04:57 PM (7WJOC)

55 Oh, and if you want to compare the dangers from big government and big business, arguably the worst action of any business was Bhopal (ignoring the role of the Indian government in the debacle) which killed about 10,000 people.

By contrast, Rummel identifies 21 governments that killed at least 100k people in the 20th century - or 10x the scope of Bhopal, with the worst, the PRC killing about 4 order of magnitude more people.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 12, 2011 04:57 PM (3aXbg)

56 Okay I'm a pretty young dude ------++++----- How you doin'?

Posted by: Barney Frank at December 12, 2011 04:59 PM (Smq5r)

57 Gawd-this is the full entry doesn't the tag line give it away? **** Tears of Shame (26+ / 2-) I don't think I've ever seen such a look of misery and dejection on the face of my daughter as I just did a moment ago. She just couldn't understand why the President would be spying on everyone. "Even my Grandma?" she asked pitifully. I sat down with her on the sofa and (as calmly as I could) tried to explain to her why the President has ordered a group of spies to collect information on every American. "And yes honey, even Grandma", I was forced to say. I tried to keep my voice steady, but it became increasingly difficult - the rage and feelings of helplessnes were just too much. I think my daughter could tell something was wrong. I found myself at such a loss for words - nothing made any sense; nothing makes sense anymore. I finally had to admit, "Honey, I just don't know - I don't know what's going on in this country anymore..." When I finished her lower lip started to tremble and her eyes began to fill with tears, "Daddy" she said, "why are the Republicans doing this to the country?" Well, that was it for me: I finally fell apart. She just fell into my arms and we both began sobbing for several minutes. For once she had to comfort me and get me back on my feet. Sometimes I just think it's too much, but seeing the strength in my young daughter's voice helped me to get through. GIT-R-DONE! - Larry the Cable Guy by CheChe on Thu May 11, 2006 at 09:55:08 AM PDT

Posted by: tasker at December 12, 2011 05:00 PM (r2PLg)

58 Okay I'm a pretty young dude, what's up with all the Big Labor hate back in the late sixties and early seventies? Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at December 12, 2011 08:54 PM (tKFT6)

Around that time there was no functional difference between the mob and the unions. Hoffa, for example, disappeared in '75.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 12, 2011 05:00 PM (3aXbg)

59 Whether CheChe's post is authentic or satire, the really important point about it is that it is so believable. That is precisely how leftists think - demonstrated on an almost daily basis - and is precisely why they are so impossible to reason with and equally, why they are so dangerous.

Posted by: LGoPs at December 12, 2011 05:00 PM (lHn6+)

60 While we're talking about shit an' shit, FUCK Hawaii Five-O and the ignorant, selfish Hollywood douchebags involved with it's production:

http://tinyurl.com/87u7ucz

Posted by: Comatosarian at December 12, 2011 05:00 PM (sTS/8)

61 Fk off RayKon, everyone knows war is good for the econommy.

Posted by: Stuppid Libs at December 12, 2011 05:00 PM (wUHf4)

62 We oft talk about the power of the MSM but when I see a graph like this or the ones about gun control, I think it shows the limits of media power. The media can full press only a few issues at a time, When they switch to a new one, the worry over previous "issues" rebalances more in line with what peoples experience with reality supports. Recently, wimmin and race issues have very much taken a back seat to gay issues.

The media would love to full press big labor, homeless, wimmin, race, gay, class, war, environment, etc... issues all at once fear-mongering people into supporting special privileges and government expansions, but c'mon you can only fit so much mockery and talking points into a 20 minute episode of this weeks, "The Office."

Posted by: Shiggz - Newt 2012 at December 12, 2011 05:01 PM (RfvTE)

63 You don't say...

Posted by: Big Tinfoil at December 12, 2011 08:57 PM (HfydS)

Ooo, I think I found my next bubble!

Posted by: Big Bernanke at December 12, 2011 05:01 PM (sOXQX)

64 #58 Hey barn got a cattle prod

Posted by: pull the cattleprod outtamy ass at December 12, 2011 05:01 PM (E504d)

65 Around that time there was no functional difference between the mob and the unions.

Plus Ã§a change...

(Only half kidding.)

Posted by: sandy burger at December 12, 2011 05:02 PM (HfydS)

66 Weeeeee! If I stare at those lines too long i get dizzzy!

Posted by: Diane Sawyer at December 12, 2011 05:03 PM (FP6bs)

67 I'm not sure I see a functional difference between the mob and government right now.

Posted by: toby928© Perrykrishna with tattooed knuckles at December 12, 2011 05:03 PM (GTbGH)

46 Okay I'm a pretty young dude, what's up with all the Big Labor hate back in the late sixties and early seventies?

Two words: Jimmy F'n Hoffa. OK, three sorta.

Contrary to what you were probably told in either or both HS/college, he was not the widely beloved, admired labor leader. I don't know if the few public unions in place at the time, like AFGE, even had bargaining power. Just conduits for comlaints mainly.

Posted by: L Rob in OK at December 12, 2011 05:03 PM (7yvLv)

69 #35, um that's disturbing.....

Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston training for the ONT mudwrestling match at December 12, 2011 05:03 PM (ijjAe)

70 hmmm...Devils v Lightning or Rams v Seasquawks?

Posted by: garrett at December 12, 2011 05:04 PM (Smq5r)

Posted by: L Rob in OK at December 12, 2011 09:03 PM (7yvLv)

Malkin has a story on the union thugs with a short video that says it all.

Posted by: Cicerokid at December 12, 2011 05:05 PM (FP6bs)

72 Whether CheChe's post is authentic or satire, the really important point about it is that it is so believable. Posted by: LGoPs

She's totally cereal, man.

May 11 "I don't think I've ever seen such a look of misery and dejection on the face of my daughter as I just did a moment ago. She just couldn't understand why the President would be spying on everyone. 'Even my Grandma?'

April 27 "I don't think I've ever seen such a look of misery and dejection on the face of my daughter as I just did a moment ago. I sat down with her on the sofa and (as calmly as I could) tried to explain to her why the Senate Republicans want to drain the treasury in order to give every American a $100 check.

June 13 "I don't think I've ever seen such a look of misery and dejection on the face of my daughter as I just did a moment ago. She just couldn't understand why the President would be going to Iraq when so many things are wrong in this country."

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 12, 2011 05:05 PM (mIucK)

comlaints

OR complaints.

Posted by: L Rob in OK at December 12, 2011 05:06 PM (7yvLv)

#35, um that's disturbing.....

You are telling me?

Posted by: Little Che-Che at December 12, 2011 05:06 PM (Smq5r)

75 I don't know... Remember Jon Stewart on Crossfire? "You're hurting the country!" So yes, they can be that unmanly on purpose. I'm going to call this one PLAUSIBLE.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 12, 2011 05:06 PM (0yt4x)

76 72 hmmm...Devils v Lightning or Rams v Seasquawks?

Posted by: garrett at December 12, 2011 09:04 PM (Smq5r)

----

Well, the Rams v Seasquawks is not an actual NFL game game. It usually takes two real teams to play a game. Unfortunately, there's only one sorta real NFL team on the field.

Posted by: Racist, Right-Wing Terrorist...or Tea Party Member for short at December 12, 2011 05:06 PM (276MX)

GIT-R-DONE! - Larry the Cable Guy

Speaking of whom, his show Only in America I consider damned entertaining. Guy's a patriot, even though he has a hard time keepijng the fake accent.

Posted by: USS Diversity at December 12, 2011 05:06 PM (PddVe)

78 That Big Labor percentage is not high enough.

Posted by: chemjeff at December 12, 2011 05:06 PM (qVUxp)

79 Sure, people don't trust Big Government to get their checks out on time. That's the threat.

Posted by: huerfano at December 12, 2011 05:07 PM (7wEgI)

80 Damnit his accent is fake?

Posted by: tasker at December 12, 2011 05:07 PM (r2PLg)

81 63 I don't watch that POS anyway and never will.

Posted by: steevy at December 12, 2011 05:07 PM (7WJOC)

82 Just the other day people here were calling hawii five-o one of the most conservative shows on television. But then others were calling Stewart Colbert "Classical Liberals."

Speaking of Political TV

The Middle has started pandering to leftists
Last Man Standing is what I would call practical social conservative.
Raising Hope is what I would call practical leftists (Hispanic Catholic Democrat)
Community is Hillary leftist
Archer could be a show filmed in the teenage mind of a young Dick Cheney.
Chuck is as conservative as TV gets these days.

Posted by: Shiggz - Newt 2012 at December 12, 2011 05:08 PM (RfvTE)

83 The MSM is our enemy, they fucking tell you how beautiful the sea is , even when a hurricane approaches, They have the upper hand. And I simply base my words on facebook friends. Just look at the # "s It is a good factor.

Posted by: pull the cattleprod outtamy ass at December 12, 2011 05:08 PM (E504d)

84 I'll tell you a truth; the Media can talk a good economy down, but it can't talk a bad one up. When you've got no job, all the happy talk and Prosperity Montages just makes you angrier.

Posted by: toby928© Perrykrishna with tattooed knuckles at December 12, 2011 05:10 PM (GTbGH)

85 That graph looks like Joe the Camel .

Posted by: Norm MacDonald at December 12, 2011 05:10 PM (npr0X)

86 Right now the most serious threat to the country is Mila Kunis and Justin Timberlake.

Posted by: Joffen at December 12, 2011 05:10 PM (zLeKL)

87 Around that time there was no functional difference between the mob and the unions.

Plus Ã§a change...

(Only half kidding.)

Posted by: sandy burger at December 12, 2011 09:02 PM (HfydS)

Yep. Hoffas and Daleys. You still can't swing a dead cat without hitting one of them. In fact, there are more of them now than ever.

Posted by: really ... at December 12, 2011 05:11 PM (X3lox)

88 @ 85 Just the other day people here were calling hawii five-o one of the most conservative shows on television....

Whether the Five-O story lines are "conservative" or not, when the production crew starts dissing WWII veterans (if the KOA story is true as the account says, and I have no reason to disbelieve it) in order to get their "product" out on time, they can go fuck themselves. Repeatedly.

Posted by: Comatosarian at December 12, 2011 05:12 PM (sTS/8)

89 Oops. I was supposed to paste the "Hoffa Era" comment, instead. You all know what I meant ...

Posted by: really ... at December 12, 2011 05:12 PM (X3lox)

90 Its clear people don't yet understand that most of big Labor is now the hive mind of big government.

Posted by: Shiggz - Newt 2012 at December 12, 2011 05:12 PM (RfvTE)

91 *awwww...little CheChe stories. Good times.....good times...

sniffle.

Posted by: prettypinkfluffypanties at December 12, 2011 05:12 PM (2RIoM)

That's the most pathetic thing I've ever read.

Posted by: ErikW at December 12, 2011 08:52 PM (cBYLQ)

Apparently you've not Bill Ayer's book "Dreams From My Father"?

Posted by: Unclefacts Out Of Commenting Retirement Just For This One Thing at December 12, 2011 05:12 PM (6IReR)

93 Or Joe Camel , whatever works .

Posted by: Norm MacDonald at December 12, 2011 05:13 PM (npr0X)

94 >>>We have 2 months at most to become a "team"

That's not really true. If the candidates would keep to clean, substantive, conservative attacks on each other and not defame each other, we have plenty of time. We become a team at the convention.

I'm sorry to hear about your job and other woes. Lots of us have gone through it or are going through it. It blows. Hang in there.

Posted by: Y-not, Vote for Rick or the puppy gets it at December 12, 2011 05:13 PM (5H6zj)

95 Gawd! How I love hippy tears. If that's wrong.I don't want to be right.

Posted by: HomeSkolled, who detests Mittens enough to vote for Gingrich at December 12, 2011 05:13 PM (F2aGs)

96 So jumbo jogging shrimp, can we have a barbecue.. I have no idea how to respond to you ..????????Ha ha but i wouldn;t mind a shrimp on the barb-e-cue

Posted by: pull the cattleprod outtamy ass at December 12, 2011 05:15 PM (E504d)

97 God damn libs are killing jobs with regulations. Fracking, creates lots of jobs through water cleanup, but know, the stinkin libs hate earning there own monney, through real work, so they regualte to kil jobs, so they wont hav to work. Thanks libs.

Posted by: Stuppid Libs at December 12, 2011 05:15 PM (wUHf4)

98
I have been quite impressive with your posts, keep up the great work.

Posted by: 1,000 Places to See Before You Die ePub at December 12, 2011 05:16 PM (NIv3S)

99 6 That's a pretty weird dip in big government circa 2002. Was that when Enron went to shit? Booooooooooosh!

Posted by: rickb223 at December 12, 2011 05:16 PM (zV9vI)

100 63 While we're talking about shit an' shit, FUCK Hawaii Five-O and the ignorant, selfish Hollywood douchebags involved with it's production:

http://tinyurl.com/87u7ucz

Posted by: Comatosarian at December 12, 2011 09:00 PM (sTS/

I could see one asshole director or producer but it seemed like the whole fuck'n crew was indifferent to dishonoring both the dead and the living. Just pathetic.

Posted by: lowandslow at December 12, 2011 05:19 PM (GZitp)

101 Just the other day people here were calling hawii five-o one of the most conservative shows on television.

In the fannish part of my internets life, I have to put up with people being horrified, utterly horrified, that an American show with cops and military guys in it would portray the cops and the military guys as heroic and in the right.

Om nom nom lib tears. It's what's for dinner.

Posted by: alexthechick at December 12, 2011 05:19 PM (Gk3SS)

102 Y-not, Just a simple questions Are the candidates keeping it clean?/ And if not, don't you think we should be going after the admin in power....We have to fight with the MSM... They r for this admin.500 million people watch good old Brian williams and david gregory ....We need to get the word out now

Posted by: pull the cattleprod outtamy ass at December 12, 2011 05:22 PM (E504d)

103

Most middle class Americans are turning into fucking whining welfare cases.

I don't buy the graph, sadly.

Posted by: Mr. Wonderful at December 12, 2011 05:22 PM (5V3OV)

104 Posted by: pull the cattleprod outtamy ass at December 12, 2011 08:56 PM (E504d)

Can't say I disagree w/ you. The SCOAMF must go. Whomever gets the R nomination, I will vote for them. Nothing -- nothing -- would be worse than 4 more years of this communist country wrecker.

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 12, 2011 05:23 PM (ycuSb)

105 " So 9/11 bought "big government" about 10 years of good will, but it's gone now. Interesting. Yes. Yes it is. In addition to PNAC telegraphing their desire for a "new Pearl Harbor" 9/11 allowed nanny-statist neo-cons to sac-suck the treasury dry. See, to be a neo-con is to be a warmonger is to be big government tax and spend liberty abhorring asshole. War wanking wedgie begging buttheads lousing up the economy and Leninizing the land to and fro. A Ron Paul administration would put America First. Small government. States rights. You know, man stuff.

Posted by: ICBM/Buttplug Matrix Investigator at December 12, 2011 05:23 PM (xx2Hb)

106

Oh my God, those CheChe posts were amazing.

Damn. Good times, good times.

Posted by: Dave in Texas at December 12, 2011 05:26 PM (PjVdx)

107 i'm pretty sure Ron Paul didn't mind larding up bills to take home to his constituents. it's ok than right? if Paul did it?

Posted by: willow at December 12, 2011 05:26 PM (h+qn8)

108 is it actually on Kos i hate to click?

Posted by: willow at December 12, 2011 05:27 PM (h+qn8)

109 Shitty movie over. All is well.

Posted by: Joffen at December 12, 2011 05:28 PM (zLeKL)

110 is it actually on Kos i hate to click?

Posted by: willow at December 12, 2011 09:27 PM (h+qn

Yes, avoid the stupid.

Posted by: ErikW at December 12, 2011 05:30 PM (cBYLQ)

111

FIFY.

I donÂ’t think IÂ’ve ever seen such a look of misery and dejection on the face of my daughter as I just did a moment ago. She just couldnÂ’t understand why the President would be going to Iraq when so many things are wrong in this country. Â“DoesnÂ’t Mr. Bush Obama care about us anymore?Â” she asked pitifully.

I sat down with her on the sofa and (as calmly as I could) tried to explain to her why the President seems to be abandoning his country. Â“Honey, I think his boss, Mr. Rove Soros, sent Mr. Bush Obama out of the country to the golf course in order to keep himself out of the newspapers. You see, he wasnÂ’t sure if he was going to be arrested impeached today or not, and so he planned Mr. BushÂ’s Obamas trip golf game ahead of time just in caseÂ…Â”

I tried to keep my voice steady, but it became increasingly difficult Â– the rage and feelings of helplessness were just too much. I think my daughter could tell something was wrong. I found myself at such a loss for words Â– nothing made any sense; nothing makes sense anymore. I finally had to admit, Â“Honey, I just donÂ’t know Â– I donÂ’t know whatÂ’s going on in this country anymoreÂ…Â”

When I finished her lower lip started to tremble and her eyes began to fill with tears, Â“DaddyÂ” she said, Â“why are the Republicans doing this to the country?Â” Well, that was it for me: I finally fell apart. She just fell into my arms and we both began sobbing for several minutes.

For once she had to comfort me and get me back on my feet. Sometimes I just think itÂ’s too much, but seeing the strength in my young daughterÂ’s voice helped me to get through.

Posted by: shibumi at December 12, 2011 05:30 PM (z63Tr)

112 Read the HQ take. AoSHQ June 13, 2006 "Tears of Shame"

It's hard to believe that comment numbered in the dozens back then.

Plus, I like the old names.

Posted by: toby928© Perrykrishna with tattooed knuckles at December 12, 2011 05:31 PM (GTbGH)

113 There's still hope, Willow. Otherwise what the fuck are we all here for?

Posted by: Joffen at December 12, 2011 05:31 PM (zLeKL)

114 Oops.

"Democrats" instead of "Republicans."

Posted by: shibumi at December 12, 2011 05:31 PM (z63Tr)

115 105 Y-not, Just a simple questions Are the candidates keeping it clean?

Well, being a Perry supporter, I'd say "no." He was accused of all sorts of nonsense by Bachmann, Romney, and helpful pundits like Michelle Malkin.

But that's the hand we were dealt.

However, I do not think that anything good comes from putting an artificial time-frame of two months or whatever for us to achieve unity. The act of voting is not about building consensus or even for building unity. It's about expressing your preference to the candidates and also to the party. The time for building unity is at the convention.

I've been told for months now I need to shut up and get behind Mitt (not saying you're saying that, btw). Well, that's making me disinclined to vote for Mitt. I'm going to vote my conscience in the primary and donate to the candidate I prefer until he wins or drops out.

Posted by: Y-not, Vote for Rick or the puppy gets it at December 12, 2011 05:32 PM (5H6zj)

116

Apparently you've not Bill Ayer's book "Dreams From My Father"?

Posted by: Unclefacts Out Of Commenting Retirement Just For This One Thing at December 12, 2011 09:12 PM (6IReR)

Don't need that. I know eveil when I see it.

Posted by: ErikW at December 12, 2011 05:33 PM (cBYLQ)

117 Joffen, i guess our main deal in life is to do well, with what our circumstances are?

Posted by: willow at December 12, 2011 05:33 PM (h+qn8)

118 shibumi, omg i remember that one!

Posted by: willow at December 12, 2011 05:35 PM (h+qn8)

119 O/T here -- CSPAN isn't going to re-broadcast the Gingrich-Huntsman debate, but a commenter at HotAir provided a link where you can watch the whole thing.

I'm 26 minutes into it (78 minutes long).
It's actually quite mentally stimulating.
Both guys make some interesting points.

It's on foreign policy, in a "Lincoln-Douglass" format.

LINK

Posted by: jwb7605 at December 12, 2011 05:38 PM (Qxe/p)

120 or whatever circumstances we find ourselves in.* sorry i was typing like i was chewing on a starburst or something
.garble.

Posted by: willow at December 12, 2011 05:39 PM (h+qn8)

121 Big Labor and big business should be swaped. If the union democrat machine had it's way - everything would be unionized - which is basically another tax that goes straight ot democrat coffers.

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at December 12, 2011 05:40 PM (O7ksG)

122

Like everything good and wonderful on the web, that "greatest Daily Kos diary ever" seems to be a parody:

http://tinyurl.com/7tdh8mg

Posted by: CJ at December 12, 2011 05:57 PM (9G+G5)

123 Thank you for the good writeup. It in fact was a amusement account it. Look advanced to more added agreeable from you! However, how could we communicate?

Posted by: Sketching Light epub at December 12, 2011 06:08 PM (hy0BP)

124 Yep! I was agreed, I'll keep in touch to your blog.

Posted by: Something to Hold ePub at December 12, 2011 06:21 PM (z18f4)

125 #52 Well said! We will have to pull together and it is going to be tough even with a very good candidate of our dreams, which most of us won't get.

So, as pull the cattleprod etc. says, let's quit fighting. Unless you are in Iowa, the caucuses are going to be decided by what the people in Iowa say, not us.

And might I add, the media is yanking our chains and manipulating this election for all it's worth. Just pick who you like, support them, and then accept whoever the winner ultimately is.

Obama must be defeated!

Posted by: Miss Marple at December 12, 2011 06:50 PM (GoIUi)

126 The "cheche" posts were debunked as a hoax long ago: http://www.samizdata.net/blog/archives/2006/06/weirdest_father_1.html

Posted by: docweasel at December 12, 2011 06:59 PM (J0twV)

127 Do weasels even read the comments? Or are you guys the anti-Breitbart?

Posted by: toby928© Perrykrishna with tattooed knuckles at December 12, 2011 07:38 PM (GTbGH)

128 Bumping the "big government" line above up against the "us gov as a percentage of gdp" line in another chart on-hand with the same timeline restores my faith in about 64% of the american public.

Posted by: Chart Fu at December 12, 2011 07:45 PM (RxLT6)

129 Posted by: Some silly fat chick under the delusion that she's relevant at December 12, 2011 08:55 PM (sOXQX)

FIFY

Posted by: John P. Squibob at December 12, 2011 08:09 PM (7ctQW)

130 Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. - C.S. Lewis

So this poll shows that people "get" this.

Posted by: rockhead at December 12, 2011 10:02 PM (ZMHGo)

131 This web site is my breathing in, really fantastic pattern and perfect subject matter.

Posted by: French Ducks in Venice ePub at December 12, 2011 10:39 PM (5wI0l)

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