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April 10, 2011

CAC's Sunday Art Thread- Duchamp, Moron Art, and other crap
— CAC

Very delayed edition.
After a long move, sketching, painting, tweaking a project, contacting a porn star for another mixed-media project, drinking,"falling" into a filing cabinet and a host of other things more important than blogging the art thread is here again.
First an introductory music video which both "gets" the bigger, sadder point of this weeks edition AND is the closest thing to actually seeing a Republican leadership meeting:

After the First World War, allegiances to many of the artistic traditions that had survived the challenges of cubism, expressionism, impressionism, fauvism and pure abstraction were shattered by a disillusioned, cynical generation of artists who inadvertently predicted much of what makes art "suck" in the eyes of today's majority. The most brilliant of these was Marcel Duchamp, whose horny woman-and-gay da Vinci two-for-one joke LHOOQ was blogged about here earlier:

Fountain, 1917. (photo from 1917 exhibition) Porcelain Urinal. Original lost, replicas at various institutions.

Funny thing is, I have had morons comment on this piece in multiple threads, and they actually sum it up well:

Duchamp ushered in modern art by establishing the idea of "ready made" art, which fit nicely with new developments in mass manufacturing, and it was an asshole, curmudgeonly comment on the modern age, anticipating the beatniks by several decades. He was a typical French misanthrope who stated that art has nothing to do with the artist once it's on display. The viewer gets to decide whether it's art, and they can "piss off." There was always punk.
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane

That's the idea. Or half the idea. Duchamp was the original "Art is whatever crap I put my name (or someone else's) on" guy. So when he did it, it was funny.
It worked like a Don Rickles joke. If you're an art-world dink who thinks you're in on Duchamp's joke, and you're like "He's doing me! I'm in the show!" you can laugh and have a good time when he says you look like a drunk Mexican gorilla, but it's funny because you look like a drunk Mexican gorilla.
Posted by: oblig.

Here's a thought on the Duchamp: In the novel Infinite Jest, one of the characters, a filmmaker, pulls a huge hoax on the art world. He comes up with a concept called "found drama". Basically it goes like this: You pick a name out of the phone book, and whatever that person does for the next two hours is the "drama". You don't have to know what they actually do. Just the act of designating the person is the "art". It makes a big splash in the art world, until he reveals that it's all bullshit, at which point everybody gets pissed at him. That's pretty much how I feel about "Fountain" (only Duchamp never let the cat out of the bag).
Posted by: Farmer Joe

When Marcel Duchamp created "Fountain" in 1917 under the pseudonym "R. Mutt" as part of his "readymades", he was making a deliberate swipe at Western mainstream "fine art" traditions of elevating anything to art simply by setting it on a pedestal. Apparently, modern "artists" never quite got the joke.
Posted by: The Ghost of Flannery O'Connor

To all of the morons who had commented on it in the original threads, I will add just a bit more. Duchamp was being profound by pushing the ever-expanding boundaries of art to its inevitable conclusion- one in which the actual ability or skill of the artist is deemed irrelevant by the simple pronouncement of a given "work" as art. He geniunely believed that the declaration of art, and an audience, mattered as much if not more than the artist or his actual work. In the hands of tongue-in-cheek Duchamp, this idea is both thoughtful and comical- we can take the proposition seriously, but simultaneously laugh at its implications humorously expressed.

As for the copycats and the beatniks whose "art" erronously shove themselves onto the Duchampian family tree,
I simply give you Salvador Dali's reaction to them:
The first person to compare the cheeks of a young woman with a rose was plainly a poet. The second, who repeated the comparison, was probably an idiot...People have already forgotten that the founder of Dadaism, Tristan Tzara, stated in his mannifesto in the very infancy of the movements: "Dada is this, Dada is that...Either way, it's crap." This kind of more or less black humour is foreign to the new generation. They are genuinely convinced that their neo-Dadaism is subtler than the art of Praxiteles.

*****
Moron Art of the Week

Remember, to share your works, send JPEGs with title, dimensions, medium and year HERE to see it on AoS and to have your fellow morons praise/laugh at you.

First up is moronette MWR:

Autumn Birch 2009. Watercolor and Acrylic on watercolor paper, 4" x 5".

The Port of Ensenada 2010. Digital Photograph, 5" x 7".

Manmountain Molehill found his inner Duchamp and gave us this readymade, created on election night 2008:

Shattered LCD, Found object- glass, liquid crystal, gravity. 12"x9"

Exurban Kevin channels his inner Freud:

Backyard Agave #2, 2010. Digital Photo.

Mojo sent me a whateverthefuckitis:

Triskelion, 2010. Strange attractor visualization.

and finally, billypaintbrush gives us a standard feature of the art thread- at least one boob:

Robe, 2005. Acrylic on canvas, 24" x 28".

I will leave you this afternoon with a work in progress that should get Kratos mad because it uses my favorite painting/printing surface:

Now go away.

Posted by: CAC at 11:59 AM | Comments (96)
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1 Boobies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That should get Moronland attention.

Posted by: some wench at April 10, 2011 02:23 PM (bqjJT)

2 Word Art. Especially that last line.

Posted by: sTevo at April 10, 2011 02:37 PM (VMcEw)

3 Is that One Boob in honor of the One in the White House?

Posted by: Pablo KissmyassO at April 10, 2011 02:37 PM (2CGdt)

4
Fountain, 1917. (photo from 1917 exhibition) Porcelain Urinal. Original lost, replicas at various institutions.

A statue of Buddha sitting cross-legged inside the fountain would make the sculpture complete.

Posted by: Kermit Gosnell at April 10, 2011 02:43 PM (7+pP9)

5 Sock off.

Posted by: Kermit Gosnell at April 10, 2011 02:45 PM (7+pP9)

"Fountain, 1917. (photo from 1917 exhibition) Porcelain Urinal. Original lost, replicas at various institutions."

... actually, very many institutions.

Thomas Kincaide devastated.

Posted by: Arbalest at April 10, 2011 02:46 PM (SR7E2)

7 it's funny 'cuz I've been thinking a lot lately about bidets and how the French are filthy stinky people

Posted by: Sunday Soothsayer with extra nuts at April 10, 2011 02:46 PM (UQjUb)

8 MWR-

Good on you, gurl!

And Charl Schwartzel who.......? Eh, whatever it ain't Tiger so I'll take it.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 10, 2011 02:50 PM (ijY7O)

"Fountain, 1917. (photo from 1917 exhibition) Porcelain Urinal. Original lost, replicas at various institutions."

Proof that Art seeks it's own level.

Posted by: Arbalest at April 10, 2011 02:50 PM (SR7E2)

10 Bidets make good drinking fountains because the water shoots straight up. I don't give a shit about Thomas Kincaide, Ruben Kincaid on the other hand.......

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 10, 2011 02:51 PM (yQWNf)

11 Only in Europe do people think they are clean because they just let a little water splash on their pooper. sick fucks

Posted by: Sunday Soothsayer with extra nuts at April 10, 2011 02:53 PM (UQjUb)

12
The first picture Autumn Birch with the centered giraffe neck must be on the Serengeti Plain during the fall?

Posted by: Fish the Impaler at April 10, 2011 02:55 PM (ZHsNw)

It's no surprise someone like Duchamp or anybody like DEVO can state it is ART and sell it.

Posted by: CatLady at April 10, 2011 02:57 PM (CyPWX)

14 I long for a return to the time when "Art" was the superlative of "craft".

Posted by: In Bed at April 10, 2011 02:58 PM (lT0LC)

15 >>>I long for a return to the time when "Art" was the superlative of "craft". That's a great point. What happened to the days when carpenters and other craftsmen were called "artisans?"

Posted by: Sunday Soothsayer with extra nuts at April 10, 2011 03:00 PM (UQjUb)

16 It's no surprise someone like Duchamp or anybody like DEVO can state it is ART and sell it. Posted by: CatLady Wish we could all live in your world but what would it do to property values?

Posted by: humphreyrobot at April 10, 2011 03:00 PM (EiH7n)

17 where's charles johnson's art fuckers?

Posted by: chuckie at April 10, 2011 03:00 PM (A/NNH)

18 Anyone been watching the Kennedy miniseries on Reelz (Directv)?? No wonder Caroline 'Ummm...Uhhhhh' Kennedy demanded the History Channel renege on its rights to broadcast it-- her Father looks like a bumbling hack. Definite precursor to Barry.

And I'm linking this just for fun.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 10, 2011 03:01 PM (ijY7O)

19
I find THIS spy art interpretation interesting.

Posted by: Fish the Impaler at April 10, 2011 03:01 PM (ZHsNw)

20 Been listening to Devo an awful lot the last few weeks, trying to get work done. They're less profound than they think (liberals decrying infantilizing society? Irony.), but some good stuff generally.

Posted by: nickless at April 10, 2011 03:01 PM (MMC8r)

21 heh, I was expecting MAD's Spy vs Spy

Posted by: Sunday Soothsayer with extra nuts at April 10, 2011 03:02 PM (UQjUb)

22 On the subject of "other stuff"

Charl Schwartzel of S. Africa wins The Masters

May the Schwartz be with you

Posted by: kbdabear at April 10, 2011 03:04 PM (vdfwz)

23 Did Tiger make enough for whore money?

Posted by: robtr at April 10, 2011 03:05 PM (MtwBb)

24 What happened to the days when carpenters and other craftsmen were called "artisans?" Posted by: Sunday Soothsayer with extra nuts at April 10, 2011 07:00 PM (UQjUb) Damnit. Now I'm trying to make a joke about "artisanal burritos". But, anyway, that's it, to me: If you do something well, you're a craftsman. If you do something exceptionally well, you're an artist. And to me, Warhol was the greatest artist in the P.T. Barnum mould. But it's not something I can admire any more than I can admire that Ted Kennedy was the greatest artist of the "murderin' women" mould.

Posted by: In Bed at April 10, 2011 03:06 PM (lT0LC)

25 Anyone been watching the Kennedy miniseries on Reelz (Directv)??

I have, certainly not the sycophantic treatment that we usually see. I hadn't realized that Papa Joe had rigged the congressional race, nor had I realized that Jackie used Dr. feelgood as well as Jack.

Posted by: some wench at April 10, 2011 03:07 PM (bqjJT)

26 Required viewing:
Roger Scruton - Why Beauty Matters
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65YpzZrwKI4

An excellent fisking of Duchamp and those who came after.

Posted by: butch at April 10, 2011 03:08 PM (uPUfN)

27 I don't think watching internet porn is classified as a "mixed-media project". (Even if you're videoing yourself at the same time.)

Posted by: andycanuck at April 10, 2011 03:09 PM (Y1DZt)

28 Wish we could all live in your world but what would it do to property values?

Posted by: humphreyrobot at April 10, 2011 07:00 PM (EiH7n)

I like that snark, maybe you got my point.

No such thing as property value since what, 2008?

Posted by: CatLady at April 10, 2011 03:10 PM (CyPWX)

29 (Warhol > Duchamp in the arena of telling people, "You're a sucker, buy this." and having them be proud to be called a sucker.)

Posted by: In Bed at April 10, 2011 03:10 PM (lT0LC)

30 25 The movie - no. It's honest.

The commentary - don't even bother. You see "journalists" and the likes of Carl Maltin joking that it was a 'gentleman's agreement' between the Press and JFK with all his lady friends. Wink and a nod. And these fools are laughing while they say that.They of course go on to say that Bush was the next political dynasty but the antithesis to the Kennedy's in virtually every way. And that scrunt, Joan London, she can't fawn enough. I swear she was going to start crying as she relived how they were the closest thing to Royalty we'd see in this country. Puke.

But if you can get past that, I think from what I've seen (only pieces here and there) it's been very fair.

I didn't realize Jackie left Jack during the middle of the Cuban Missile Crises.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 10, 2011 03:13 PM (ijY7O)

31 Does the Triskelion one cost 100 quatloos?

Posted by: andycanuck at April 10, 2011 03:14 PM (Y1DZt)

Artisan usually only applies to local food growers now, Sunday Soothsayer.

Posted by: Who Knows at April 10, 2011 03:14 PM (1cx/R)

33 >>> local food growers You mean gardeners?

Posted by: Sunday Soothsayer with extra nuts at April 10, 2011 03:16 PM (g73jP)

34 To me an artisan is someone who can take raw materials and create something that is both aesthetically pleasing and functional.

Posted by: Sunday Soothsayer with extra nuts at April 10, 2011 03:18 PM (g73jP)

It's the new name for local gardeners. The fancy name.

Restaurant talk...

Tender spring greens = first ones we could pull off.

Etc.

Posted by: Who Knows at April 10, 2011 03:19 PM (1cx/R)

36 raw materials such as wood, glass, marble, steel, etc. I have little use for canvas and paint.

Posted by: Sunday Soothsayer with extra nuts at April 10, 2011 03:20 PM (UQjUb)

37 is a florist an artisan?

Posted by: Sunday Soothsayer with extra nuts at April 10, 2011 03:21 PM (UQjUb)

38 So CAC, who is the 3 breasted chick? Did you find the chick from Total Recall for that?

Posted by: CDR M at April 10, 2011 03:21 PM (cqZXM)

39 there is no sicker smell than a florist shop it's the sweet smell of death

Posted by: Sunday Soothsayer with extra nuts at April 10, 2011 03:22 PM (g73jP)

40 #26 He doesn't actually fisk Duchamp. He recognizes that Duchamp was deliberately mocking art- what Scruton argues is that people took it literally and decided to forgo creativity for pure concept. The bastard son of this was minimalism, which critic Hilton Cramer credits with officially killing abstraction. Frank Stella seemed to agree in 'Working Space', that was a lecture back when I was still in diapers. The problem with Scruton and Hughes is they only see parts of the problem. Rejection of the concept of beauty contributed to art's decline. But so did the total devaluement of art for its artistic merit. Hughes is right that with blaming the ludicrous art market that has existed since the Sklar auction in 1970- art is now valued as a commodity and unfortunately the best self-promoters see their work explode everwhere, often without any merit other than how much it went for at auction. Damien Hirst's most recent sale valued his art higher than the works of Mondrian, Rembrandt, Braque, Dix, and Carravagio. That is totally fucking ludicrous. Robert Hughes and Roger Scruton though have a common enemy- a rotting, bloated shark in a tank being the "best" representation of BritArt.

Posted by: CAC at April 10, 2011 03:23 PM (JEVge)

41 Holy crap! I've been quoted on the front page of the art thread. I are a big shot art critic type person!

Posted by: Farmer Joe at April 10, 2011 03:25 PM (ZGhSU)

42 there is no sicker smell than a florist shop it's the sweet smell of death Posted by: Sunday Soothsayer with extra nuts at April 10, 2011 07:22 PM (g73jP) Yeah, that's the Lilidacea. Whole family smells like rotting flesh.

Posted by: In Bed at April 10, 2011 03:26 PM (lT0LC)

43 I'm not going to pretend I know a damn thing about art. I view artists as philosophers -- men and women sharing their perspective on life. Then I look at their work and judge how they are presenting their interpretation of "life" to me. Most of the time I disagree with it and reject it.

Posted by: Sunday Soothsayer with extra nuts at April 10, 2011 03:27 PM (g73jP)

44 I meant Liliacea.

Posted by: In Bed at April 10, 2011 03:27 PM (lT0LC)

34 -

I agree.

Posted by: CatLady at April 10, 2011 03:27 PM (CyPWX)

46 Did you find the chick from Total Recall for that? Posted by: CDR M at April 10, 2011 07:21 PM (cqZXM) It's the same breast primed and printed at slightly different angles. Unfortunately three breasted women don't exist. Or if they do exist they don't have DDs or better.

Posted by: CAC at April 10, 2011 03:28 PM (JEVge)

47 Unfortunately three breasted women don't exist.

I guess SOMEONE never saw Total Recall.

Posted by: Farmer Joe at April 10, 2011 03:28 PM (ZGhSU)

48 ""What happened to the days when carpenters and other craftsmen were called "artisans?"

Well the thing is the "art" part was wiped out in artisan, because now an idiot with an air nailer and a circular saw is a carpenter. Everything is bought as parts. There are very few plasterers, or cabinet makers, or furniture builders out there. There is very little art. I was taught by old masters, so I turned the skills to guitar building because that is one of the few areas left where you truly build something from nothing using traditional hand tools. When I did kitchens and baths years ago I saw the writing on the wall. The art was going away, only to be replaced by day laborers and power tools. Don't get me wrong, I love my power tools, but a lot of old world skills gets lost.

Perfect example, at least 75% of the known old world classical guitar builders were originally trained cabinet makers, including myself. It wasn't much of a leap because many of the tools and skills were the same. A dude today doing kitchens for home depot would not have 90% of the skills needed to build a guitar, because the skills for the tools needed were never learned. I'm in my 40's, but I learned from the last of the old breed. Those dude aren't around anymore. Everything today is cut and nail, but very little creating.

Posted by: Berserker at April 10, 2011 03:29 PM (gWHrG)

Of course you meant Liliacea.

It's the association with caskets and all. They're actually quite nice.

Posted by: Who Knows at April 10, 2011 03:29 PM (1cx/R)

50 I'm not going to pretend I know a damn thing about art. I view artists as philosophers -- men and women sharing their perspective on life. Then I look at their work and judge how they are presenting their interpretation of "life" to me. Most of the time I disagree with it and reject it. Posted by: Sunday Soothsayer with extra nuts at April 10, 2011 07:27 PM (g73jP) This makes you about 3 times smarter than the average art "critic" (who mostly uses their paragraphs to crawl up the latest thing's ass and never actually criticizes) and a dozen times smarter than a patron.

Posted by: CAC at April 10, 2011 03:30 PM (JEVge)

51 This is real art, Reich wingers, by an architect.

Posted by: dick moonbat fister IV at April 10, 2011 03:31 PM (Y1DZt)

52 Of course you meant Liliacea. It's the association with caskets and all. They're actually quite nice. Posted by: Who Knows at April 10, 2011 07:29 PM (1cx/R) No, I delivered flowers for a couple of years. Those things smell terrible. The only thing worse is being on an elevator with a lawyeress (inevitably wearing too much parfum) who has chipotle gas.

Posted by: In Bed at April 10, 2011 03:33 PM (lT0LC)

Sorry, In Bed, I have a different association with them.

Lily of the Valley is a nice, not over powering bulb. It's my favorite.

Posted by: Who Knows at April 10, 2011 03:42 PM (1cx/R)

54 This Schwartzel guy--wasn't he in District 9 ?

Posted by: USS Diversity at April 10, 2011 03:47 PM (gJNMj)

55 Real ArtÂ® is my boner ramming repeatedly into a knothole in a paling whilst ducks nibble my sumptuous behind.

Posted by: In Bed at April 10, 2011 03:49 PM (lT0LC)

56 You have a little button on top of your pointy head? Amazing!

Posted by: Excelsior! at April 10, 2011 03:51 PM (apRvb)

Now I know what to give hubby for his birthday.

Posted by: dagny at April 10, 2011 04:01 PM (burP8)

58 Wait til you see the submission for my pudding sculptures.

Posted by: Fritz at April 10, 2011 04:02 PM (ngf4R)

59 You know what art is?

Watching the stunning Elizabeth Taylor today on TCM. She was perfection.

Posted by: mpfs at April 10, 2011 04:07 PM (3TjSM)

While persuing other degrees I found myself also getting a BA and a MA in english because it was tremendously easy for me. In fact, I was sent on scholarship to Cambridge just to refine my area of expertise. I never took it very seriously, because, really being an "expert" in someone else's writing seemed stupid. Regardless, in the end, I'm well trained in English literature and poetry and know what is considered good.

My 16 year old writes the most beautiful poetry with seemingly no effort. His product is quite impressive and in fact shocks me in its depth and use of literary devices.

It's all crap. He throws it together like he would a ham sandwich and with about as much thought. He doesn't have a sensitive bone in his body and would be insulted to be told that he does. I'm going to compile it and see if I can get it published. If I do, we will be amused forever.

Posted by: dagny at April 10, 2011 04:08 PM (burP8)

61 58 Now I know what to give hubby for his birthday. BJ?

Posted by: USA at April 10, 2011 04:09 PM (YZISw)

62 My opinion has always been that Duchamp was one of the true geniuses of 20th century art. He had ideas and he acted on them. It is, however, easy to see the surface of his work and thus conclude that the surface is the main idea.

By contrast, Picasso did some brilliant paintings but by the middle of his career he was already "Picasso" and he stopped trying.

Abstract expressionism killed art, in my opinion. Art (to me) is a form of communication, and abstract expressionism turned it into a monologue. Most other art schools since have similarly become the artist talking to him/herself, "Look at what a clever genius I am!"

I haven't done any painting in weeks, due to Circumstances. The lack makes me want to hang myself even more.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at April 10, 2011 04:10 PM (IEJ4J)

63 Now I know what to give hubby for his birthday.
A duck?

Posted by: andycanuck at April 10, 2011 04:10 PM (Y1DZt)

64 Now I know what to give hubby for his birthday.

BJ?

Posted by: USA at April 10, 2011 08:09 PM (YZISw)

What else, I mean.

No, boob art!! He would love that.

Posted by: dagny at April 10, 2011 04:11 PM (burP8)

65 It's all crap. He throws it together like he would a ham sandwich and with about as much thought. He doesn't have a sensitive bone in his body and would be insulted to be told that he does. I'm going to compile it and see if I can get it published. If I do, we will be amused forever. Posted by: dagny at April 10, 2011 08:08 PM (burP

Add a legend of some lost works and get the literary world even more excited.

Posted by: eman: Japanese Babe Rescue Team at April 10, 2011 04:14 PM (dT+/n)

66 Found object- glass, liquid crystal, gravity

Fabulous!

Posted by: HeatherRadish at April 10, 2011 04:23 PM (0vDuM)

67 I enjoy it period. Sometimes i articulate it to myself why i like something.Some times articulating is just an excuse or gets in the way of something much deeper if there is any depth that is. As a kid, i liked The Monkeys. Later as i begin listening to really heavy music like Santana i put away my bubble gum music. Thankfully Mr Zappa cleared up my stuffy categoric drippy sinus concerns. Now when i happen to hear The Monkeys' music at the grocery store/nursing home/Solvent Green TV commercials, my senses come alive with my life of 1967. Junior high first date then lost love. Lost junior high school government/sports faith. I lost it all except for my parents/toys and my marbles. Now 2011, I might mindlessly hum to Day Dream Believer while operating my Destroy All Art Tectonic Plate Crusher Deluxe ll Machine while wearing my Art is Fiber t-shirt. DonÂ’t get me wrong, i love art but not over the legal approved amount of love. As China prepares for being the World leader, we will all be allowed to own one piece of approved art.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at April 10, 2011 04:25 PM (EiH7n)

68 Ahhh,titty painting.

Posted by: steevy at April 10, 2011 04:25 PM (i4nES)

69 Absolutely love Stattered LCD. And remind me to tell the story of why Fountain is important outside of being an early piece of modern art. There's a story behind the story of Fountain that's well worth retelling.

Posted by: Truman North at April 10, 2011 04:26 PM (8ay4x)

70 69 Ahhh,titty painting.

Looks like dividing cells to me, *shrugs*.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at April 10, 2011 04:30 PM (mFF/4)

There's a story behind the story of Fountain that's well worth retelling.

Tell Me more, I'm curious, even if it kills Me, I have a few lives left...

Posted by: CatLady at April 10, 2011 04:36 PM (CyPWX)

72 That's a pretty sad looking tata. Thus endeth my art appreciation and commentary.

Posted by: booger at April 10, 2011 04:42 PM (9RFH1)

73 boo bart

Posted by: sTevo at April 10, 2011 04:44 PM (VMcEw)

74 Hey, I also take pictures of caves and doorways, so it's always the same motif.

Posted by: ExurbanKevin at April 10, 2011 04:52 PM (toqoX)

75 So the art thread is more pathetic than the book thread

Posted by: dagny at April 10, 2011 04:58 PM (burP8)

76 76 Isn't that as it should be?

Posted by: steevy at April 10, 2011 05:04 PM (i4nES)

77 When all else fails, remember this.

Posted by: sTevo at April 10, 2011 05:06 PM (VMcEw)

78 So Kaydaffy has accepted the road map to peace according to drudge. Let me see... I predict Kdaff will still be in power until his son Saif can take over. Isn't that where we were just before all this started?

Posted by: TrueNorthist at April 10, 2011 05:08 PM (RQtDB)

79 So Kaydaffy has accepted the road map to peace according to drudge. Let me see... I predict Kdaff will still be in power until his son Saif can take over. Isn't that where we were just before all this started?

Posted by: TrueNorthist at April 10, 2011 09:08 PM (RQtDB)

Yeah but we got to kill some muslims so there's that.

Posted by: robtr at April 10, 2011 05:12 PM (MtwBb)

80 It would be funny if we announced that anybody within a mile of Kdaff would also be consider a target. And watch hundreds and thousands of people running away from him and his sons.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at April 10, 2011 05:13 PM (EiH7n)

81 We'll always have Tripoli...

Posted by: TrueNorthist at April 10, 2011 05:13 PM (RQtDB)

82 I suppose our CF-18's got to do something other than rot on the ground. I think they actually shot at something. Not people of course. Some cow or sumpin

Posted by: TrueNorthist at April 10, 2011 05:15 PM (RQtDB)

83 Not people of course. Some cow or sumpin

Posted by: TrueNorthist at April 10, 2011 09:15 PM (RQtDB)

Cows kill more people each year than nuclear energy. fuck the cows.

Posted by: robtr at April 10, 2011 05:17 PM (MtwBb)

84 85 They are delicious,however.

Posted by: steevy at April 10, 2011 05:21 PM (i4nES)

BRILLIANT!

Posted by: Guinness Marketing Dept at April 10, 2011 05:31 PM (yQWNf)

86 I won't tolerate lactose!

Posted by: humphreyrobot at April 10, 2011 05:38 PM (EiH7n)

87 Under the new peace plan, they partition Labia. Quadafi gets Labia Majora, and the rebels get Labia Minora.

Posted by: swamp_yankee at April 10, 2011 05:39 PM (ZIpcL)

88 Under the new peace plan, they partition Labia. Quadafi gets Labia Majora, and the rebels get Labia Minora. Posted by: swamp_yankee I don't know Latin. Who gets the clit?

Posted by: humphreyrobot at April 10, 2011 05:45 PM (EiH7n)

89 Anybody got an example of true musical artisanship, post 2010?

Posted by: CatLady at April 10, 2011 05:52 PM (CyPWX)

10:00 - The Killing on AMC is art.

Posted by: swamp_yankee at April 10, 2011 05:55 PM (ZIpcL)

91 I ain't fuckin no cow man. No way, no how. Guy could get sucked in there. Good fistin I'm told. Crisco wristwatch!

Posted by: TrueNorthist at April 10, 2011 06:11 PM (RQtDB)

Unfortunately, I remember this DEVO Douchbaggery as it occurred. In those days it seemed amusing for its novelty, and if you were chemically confused enough you might mistake it for something, well, far out ... But there was something disturbing about it to anyone who was emotionally honest enough to admit it to themselves. It was the perverse pleasure taken in being absurd to the point of being a complete waste of time, and yet here we were wasting it on silly horseshit like this simply because we had it to waste! Kind of like lighting candles with $100 bills and getting off on it cause we can!

These are the death chords of a civilization. No wonder Islam hates us ...

(SURA 2:29)

Posted by: 7HEAVENS at April 10, 2011 06:23 PM (tuCVl)

93 #48 " I'm in my 40's, but I learned from the last of the old breed. Those dude aren't around anymore." Maybe not in the U.S. but in many other countries that is stll a common skill. Here in Costa Rica, there are at least six professional luthiers that I can think of; two shops within walking distance of each other. You can buy a handmade classical guitar for about $200.00.

Posted by: Gulermo at April 10, 2011 07:03 PM (f+EPI)

94 Good Work Marcel Duchamp: Nude Descending a Staircase Maybe you will want to see my ? Computer Mirror Image: "THE BLUE BUTTERFLY IS 33YO NOW" Watch video http://www.flickr.com/photos/art2science/5436445783/

Posted by: Namirha at April 11, 2011 01:38 AM (xQy5K)

95 Open for best guesses as to what comment #105 is about. My first guess is that it is a warm welcome to all westerners to come and visit Gaza. Discounts on ~~coffins~~ hotel rooms and all you can eat kosher diner.

Posted by: TrueNorthist at April 11, 2011 07:04 AM (RQtDB)

96 The problem with ranting about the silliness of the art world is that there IS no art world. There are people wasting their time ad money on crap and trying to get famous by doing so. But they don't have their own world. Without the real world where things need to be useful or attractive to justify their creation or existence there would be no ability pretend that there is an art world where farts are valuable wisdom and twisted un-rhetoric is laudable. The art world is a wispy phantom that haunts the shadow of the real world's surplus. When that surplus vanishes, shrinks, or changes hands, the phantom is revealed to be nothing and it disappears from the view and minds of those fools who tried so fucking hard to see it that they lost their ability to see the real world the way it is and pitied and mocked those still could see it. Without the crazed market the fancy tulip bulbs are worthless. Without a buyer the art promoter is nothing. The real world is sometimes shifted momentarily by art but the shift is mortal and fragile. The supposed power of art is easily slain and the course of its social decrees easily reversed when the real world decides to make foolishness too expensive for anyone to afford.

Posted by: cackfinger at April 11, 2011 04:29 PM (HpG1y)

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