November 28, 2011
— Ace Yeah, I wasn't posting this, but now he's issued a statement which all but confesses an affair, so:
Mr. Cain has been informed today that your television station plans to broadcast a story this evening in which a female will make an accusation that she engaged in a 13-year long physical relationship with Mr. Cain. This is not an accusation of harassment in the workplace – this is not an accusation of an assault - which are subject matters of legitimate inquiry to a political candidate.Rather, this appears to be an accusation of private, alleged consensual conduct between adults - a subject matter which is not a proper subject of inquiry by the media or the public. No individual, whether a private citizen, a candidate for public office or a public official, should be questioned about his or her private sexual life. The public's right to know and the media's right to report has boundaries and most certainly those boundaries end outside of one's bedroom door.
Mr. Cain has alerted his wife to this new accusation and discussed it with her. He has no obligation to discuss these types of accusations publicly with the media and he will not do so even if his principled position is viewed unfavorably by members of the media.
It is interesting, and possibly even laudable, the I-won't-lie position.
Of course, the woman herself is talking on the news and likely has proof (email, etc.) of the relationship, so lying is probably not really even an option.
So it's really not laudable. It's just standard, now that I think about it.
Thanks to JohnE for that statement.
Whoops! Sorry, double-posted Drew.
Dang.
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Posted by: steevy at November 28, 2011 01:50 PM (7WJOC)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at November 28, 2011 01:50 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at November 28, 2011 01:51 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Lincolntf at November 28, 2011 01:51 PM (Qjh0I)
You interpret this as a confession?
I'm not so sure. To me it reads as a non-denial for the purpose of not giving the satisfaction of a true denial.
Posted by: planned soothsayer at November 28, 2011 01:51 PM (0k+KI)
Posted by: Ms Choksondik, hoping for a Perry miracle at November 28, 2011 01:52 PM (fYOZx)
Posted by: Methos at November 28, 2011 01:53 PM (sOXQX)
And I'm sorry, but as a conservative (both fiscal & social), I hold the people I elect to office to a higher standard... I was a Cain fan, now he's dead to me...
Posted by: Joshua at November 28, 2011 01:53 PM (Fn1aX)
So he personally denied it after saying he wouldn't discuss it? Or did he deny it on CNN before he issued a statement which said "He has no obligation to discuss these types of accusations publicly with the media and he will not do so even if his principled position is viewed unfavorably by members of the media."
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at November 28, 2011 01:54 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: CoolCzech at November 28, 2011 01:54 PM (niZvt)
Ron Paul and Jon Hunstman are the other two guys I'm not voting for over Mitt Romney. Perry, Gingrich? Absolutely. But not the national sales tax creating 999 one trick pony.
Posted by: Naqamel at November 28, 2011 01:55 PM (UMwMT)
Posted by: jaaayyyy at November 28, 2011 01:56 PM (2qDRX)
Posted by: CoolCzech at November 28, 2011 01:56 PM (niZvt)
Been trying to tell Ace that for a long time... he is still antsy that Cain needs to be our of the race ASAP.
Posted by: Shiggz - Newt (tentatively) at November 28, 2011 01:56 PM (I9fXA)
Posted by: Y-not at November 28, 2011 01:57 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: CoolCzech at November 28, 2011 01:57 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Tonawanda at November 28, 2011 01:57 PM (fgysf)
Posted by: Kal Penn at November 28, 2011 01:58 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: ace at November 28, 2011 01:58 PM (nj1bB)
WHERE IS THE THREAD WISHING CANCER ON BERNIE FINE OF SYRACUSE?
I guess we just wish cancer on ENABLERS of pedophiles, not ACTUAL pedophiles.
STILL WAITING
Posted by: wiseup at November 28, 2011 01:58 PM (j/wD+)
He is not a good man.
Posted by: laceyunderalls at November 28, 2011 01:58 PM (pLTLS)
Posted by: CoolCzech at November 28, 2011 01:58 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Slick Willie at November 28, 2011 01:58 PM (smit2)
Posted by: SethPower at November 28, 2011 01:59 PM (e6MoS)
She's named Ginger but looks more like Natalie from Facts of Life.
I concur, ol' chum.
And this is what's most disappointing. She's not even hot.
Posted by: planned soothsayer at November 28, 2011 01:59 PM (0k+KI)
Posted by: ace at November 28, 2011 01:59 PM (nj1bB)
Posted by: CoolCzech at November 28, 2011 01:59 PM (niZvt)
Now, now, CoolCzech. Don't be hasty! Be nice to the moronette who (on an earlier thread) expressed a willingness to consider doing the nasty with a certain accountant if he were wrapped in bacon and swimming in a vat of Valu-Rite...
Posted by: Y-not at November 28, 2011 02:00 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 28, 2011 02:00 PM (UlUS4)
Posted by: jaaayyyy at November 28, 2011 02:00 PM (2qDRX)
Posted by: Governator at November 28, 2011 02:00 PM (I9fXA)
I concur, ol' chum.
And this is what's most disappointing. She's not even hot.
I like big butts and I don't deny.....
Posted by: Herm Cain at November 28, 2011 02:01 PM (smit2)
Posted by: jaaayyyy at November 28, 2011 02:01 PM (2qDRX)
Posted by: Lojack at November 28, 2011 02:01 PM (AMNW2)
Here is the response I agreed to... I don't see how that justifies your response at all.
Posted by: Shiggz at November 28, 2011 02:01 PM (I9fXA)
Posted by: Cainiac No. 35 at November 28, 2011 02:01 PM (97AKa)
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at November 28, 2011 02:02 PM (+lsX1)
Posted by: al-Cicero, Tea Party Jihadist at November 28, 2011 02:02 PM (QKKT0)
How did I miss THAT???
BTW, it wouldn't be nasty, but sweet as maple-flavored bacon fried to a perfect crisp :8Posted by: CoolCzech at November 28, 2011 02:02 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Newt at November 28, 2011 06:01 PM (hXJOG)
Whoa, dont even dare to think about that!
Posted by: Elize Nayden, Newtist at November 28, 2011 02:03 PM (97AKa)
Posted by: nevergiveup at November 28, 2011 02:03 PM (eCnLg)
Apparently you have a life and do not spend every waking moment here! ;-)
Posted by: Y-not at November 28, 2011 02:04 PM (5H6zj)
Yep, wasn't all impressed with the previous accusations, but when someone says a 13 year affair, they're gonna have proof. Emails, phone calls, gifts, pictures, a blue dress....
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 28, 2011 02:04 PM (JYheX)
Posted by: laceyunderalls at November 28, 2011 02:04 PM (pLTLS)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at November 28, 2011 02:04 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: Peaches at November 28, 2011 02:04 PM (eIczx)
Posted by: DrewM. at November 28, 2011 02:04 PM (dw7rB)
Question, Cain obviously knew this was out there:
1. Why did he not have it tied down?
2. If he didn't have it tied down, why did he run knowing it might come out?
Incredible.
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 28, 2011 02:05 PM (uVlA4)
Posted by: steevy at November 28, 2011 02:05 PM (7WJOC)
So he'll be actively campaigning for the Moron vote?
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at November 28, 2011 02:06 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at November 28, 2011 02:06 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: Rob Roy at November 28, 2011 02:07 PM (suUGi)
Posted by: steevy at November 28, 2011 02:07 PM (7WJOC)
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at November 28, 2011 02:07 PM (+lsX1)
Actually, it is a proper matter to discuss. I see this as "if you can't keep your promise to your own wife to 'be faithful to her alone', than I how can I ever trust you on anything, especially your '9-9-9' plan"?
How can he drag his family through crap like this?
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at November 28, 2011 02:07 PM (UR5vq)
Then there are still 4 or 5 others sucking what little oxygen there is out of the runup to the GOP primaries.
Posted by: M. Murcek at November 28, 2011 02:07 PM (ToZXn)
You know, I'm thankful to the MSM for dragging this stuff out before the primaries. They're too full of hate to be proper Machiavels.
Meanwhile, Mitt Machiaviellomney has just arranged for Arpaio to endorse Perry before Newt gets too far out in front . . .
Ugh, I hate this race.
Posted by: Emperor of Icecream, Cultist for Jesus at November 28, 2011 02:07 PM (epBek)
Mr. Cain, I'm sorry if this isn't true, or if it is "taken out of context," or whatever. My main concern is getting SCOAMF out of office, and electing someone who is actually conservative to replace him. You remaining in the race damages the chances of both.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at November 28, 2011 02:08 PM (8y9MW)
When Cain and his campaign were confronted with sexual harassment allegations during his tenure at the National Restaurant Association, they declined to respond directly for 10 days. Cain responded preemptively to this latest accusation during an interview with CNNÂ’s Wolf Blitzer less than two hours before the Atlanta station was set to air its report.
“This individual’s going to accuse me of an affair for an extended period of time. I don’t want to specify because I don’t know what’s in the story. Secondly, it is someone that I know who is an acquaintance that I thought was a friend,” Cain told Blitzer.
“It was obviously someone who was supposed to be a friend but obviously they didn’t see it as a friendship,” he added.
Cain said he had not had an affair, or had sex with the woman.
Posted by: Y-not at November 28, 2011 02:08 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Herman Cain at November 28, 2011 02:08 PM (97AKa)
Me too! El Rické is the obvious choice for disaffected fans of the serial rapist uh, Mister Cain who are looking for a candidate of pure dignity and class and we look forward to having them!
Posted by: Perry Supporter Digging Eagerly Through 15-Year-Old Hotel Records at November 28, 2011 02:08 PM (YFnYe)
Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 28, 2011 02:08 PM (kTXf4)
The above link is to an American Thinker article on the FOIA information on the Fed. It is O/T, but interesting and scary, and should be read.
Posted by: chillin the most for Perry at November 28, 2011 02:08 PM (6IV8T)
Posted by: Elizabeth at November 28, 2011 02:09 PM (QKKT0)
Posted by: runninrebel at November 28, 2011 02:09 PM (i3PJU)
Posted by: The Hermanator at November 28, 2011 02:10 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: nevergiveup at November 28, 2011 02:10 PM (eCnLg)
Herman Cain's anagram: RNA MACHINE
He's obviously programmed to spread his seed far and wide.
Posted by: Lincolntf at November 28, 2011 02:10 PM (Qjh0I)
We're coming to a point very close to where Herb Cain's endorsement (and ensuing campaigning for) of the nominee will be detrimental.
This is not good.
Posted by: planned soothsayer at November 28, 2011 02:10 PM (0k+KI)
Posted by: ace at November 28, 2011 02:10 PM (nj1bB)
Isn't that the case for Arnold's mistress too?
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at November 28, 2011 02:11 PM (UR5vq)
Posted by: SethPower at November 28, 2011 02:11 PM (e6MoS)
Posted by: ace at November 28, 2011 02:11 PM (nj1bB)
The Cain has gone Hindenburg.
What other high flyin' "conservative" zeppelins of hot gas are still flying around now?
Posted by: CAC at November 28, 2011 02:11 PM (fv2m3)
This is not good.
----
Well, unless he's in the bag for Mitt.
Posted by: Y-not looks on the bright side at November 28, 2011 02:12 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Pooter Hound at November 28, 2011 02:12 PM (le5qc)
Posted by: nevergiveup at November 28, 2011 02:12 PM (eCnLg)
This is my big moment.
Posted by: As If You Didn't Know By Now at November 28, 2011 02:13 PM (YFnYe)
Posted by: SethPower at November 28, 2011 06:11 PM (e6MoS)
and endorse Mitt Romney over "that charlatain Perry or that devilish Newt".
On the upside, looks like Mitt Romney is now down 1 fingerpuppet.
Posted by: CAC at November 28, 2011 02:13 PM (fv2m3)
Posted by: SethPower at November 28, 2011 02:13 PM (e6MoS)
Posted by: Dr Spank at November 28, 2011 02:13 PM (Sh42X)
So... huh? He denies it but then says he won't discuss it? (Hint, Herm: denial is "discussing" the issue). Or does he just mean he won't discuss it any more? Also, short of "Let me stick my pizza topping in your conveyor oven," how do emails or cell-phone records "prove" anything other than correspondence?
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at November 28, 2011 02:14 PM (8y9MW)
Eat your heart out, Breitbart, I know you're lurking on this one.
Posted by: Peaches at November 28, 2011 02:14 PM (eIczx)
Posted by: t-bird at November 28, 2011 02:14 PM (FcR7P)
Even during his rise, it was clear Cains massive flaws meant he had essentially zero chance of making through the gauntlet to the nomination.
We also agree that he potentially is a liablity to the movement sorta like the witch lady. What we disagreed about and you have never once responded to was how best to handle his exit.
-You have always wanted him out ASAP. Didn't care if it paralleled the medias strategy.
-I perceived right away that since conservatives are going to be unhappy about Romney (plenty justified) that it would be much smarter to handle Cain thus:
1. Not have Republicans joining with the leftist media to bring down Cain.
2. Leave Conservatives to leave Cain in their own way and time.
I have always thought your approach to Cain would be more befitting if his poll numbers were leading 2 weeks before the primaries. I think have been quite well proven that we did have time to let Conservatives go through their process of abandoning Cain in their own time and way.
Posted by: Shiggz - Newt (tentatively) at November 28, 2011 02:14 PM (I9fXA)
Are you trying to split the Huntman vote for the dem nomination?
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at November 28, 2011 02:14 PM (UR5vq)
As a guy, let me say my down deep biological instinct says "way to score, dude"
As a voter, let me say "get out".
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 28, 2011 02:14 PM (JYheX)
Posted by: steevy at November 28, 2011 02:14 PM (7WJOC)
Posted by: nevergiveup at November 28, 2011 02:14 PM (eCnLg)
Yes, Newt had an affair too, but that isn't the problem here. Cain has shown himself to be completely incompetent when it comes to managing these eruptions.
Why we ever believed being a CEO for a company that sells pizza prepared one to be POTUS I will never know. I mean, it's pizzas.
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 28, 2011 02:15 PM (uVlA4)
Posted by: Countrysquire at November 28, 2011 02:15 PM (+RWhm)
Posted by: laceyunderalls at November 28, 2011 02:15 PM (pLTLS)
Posted by: Illegal Aliens at November 28, 2011 02:15 PM (YFnYe)
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 28, 2011 02:16 PM (uVlA4)
Posted by: Jared Loughner at November 28, 2011 02:16 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: Herman Cain at November 28, 2011 02:16 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: People With Memories Longer Than Three Months at November 28, 2011 02:17 PM (YFnYe)
Posted by: Soona at November 28, 2011 02:17 PM (XSlLt)
Posted by: nevergiveup at November 28, 2011 02:17 PM (eCnLg)
Posted by: Fritz at November 28, 2011 02:17 PM (FabC8)
Posted by: USA at November 28, 2011 02:18 PM (6Cjut)
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 28, 2011 06:15 PM (uVlA4)
No no no. Still time for conservatives to drive the Newt Blimp into a mountain covered in power lines, at the moment the next great conservative hope arises.
Newt does have odds working in his favor though- the only "NOT-MITT"s left are Roemer, Johnson, Paul, and Huntsman. He has a 1 in 5 chance of remaining the anti-Romney.
Posted by: CAC at November 28, 2011 02:18 PM (fv2m3)
I'm not really sure we agree with this.
Posted by: Herman Cain's family at November 28, 2011 02:18 PM (pLTLS)
I never clicked on the "web-divas.com" logo on the sidebar.
It goes to Japanese Pron!
Srsly, NSFW.
Posted by: Clutch Cargo at November 28, 2011 02:18 PM (Qxdfp)
Newt just asked Herman Cain to join him for a night of old fashioned carousing and whoring.
Just like they used to do it in the days of Lincoln and Douglas.
Posted by: soothsayer at November 28, 2011 02:19 PM (0k+KI)
Posted by: Mark Block at November 28, 2011 02:19 PM (tBMfq)
Posted by: nevergiveup at November 28, 2011 02:19 PM (eCnLg)
That's why I'm done with Cain. Too much knee-jerk stupid from Cain.
Posted by: Dang at November 28, 2011 02:19 PM (BbX1b)
Posted by: Herman Cain, Sex Machine at November 28, 2011 02:19 PM (Sh42X)
Posted by: palerider at November 28, 2011 02:20 PM (dkExz)
Like The Newt?
Posted by: MrScribbler at November 28, 2011 02:20 PM (HkOAc)
Posted by: nevergiveup at November 28, 2011 02:20 PM (eCnLg)
Posted by: Herman Cain at November 28, 2011 02:20 PM (jAqTK)
I don't care if it's true or not (as far as the race is concerned- obviously for his marriage and the damage it does to his reputation I care). What I care about is (again) his obvious mishandling of the issue.
So, apparently, a day or so ago (timeline, anyone?) he denies it (before the accusation has even been aired). Now, he releases an infamous "non-denial denial," which, among other things, says he won't "discuss" it. Why not just stick with the denial? "No, it didn't happen."
I'll say it again: the accusation sounds week (why not bring it up a couple of weeks ago?), but the "denial" reeks of guilt as well.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at November 28, 2011 02:21 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Jon at November 28, 2011 02:21 PM (gkCyJ)
Posted by: Soona at November 28, 2011 02:21 PM (XSlLt)
Posted by: Newt Gingrich at November 28, 2011 02:22 PM (tBMfq)
I dont think anyone will drop out before Iowa at this point. And considering how caucuses work, Im not so sure that this is a bad idea. If Cainias lose the first round of the caucus as a group, maybe their votes can be delivered easier to the candidate that Cain would endorse if this was a normal primary. But I have never been to a caucus, can somebody enlighten me?
Posted by: Elize Nayden, Newtist at November 28, 2011 02:22 PM (97AKa)
Maybe we can start whittling down the field to just 4 or 5 guys. Based on #s, with Cain gone we get: Gingrich, Romney, Paul, Perry, and ___bottom tier candidate who gets an unexpected post-Cain boost___.
Posted by: wooga at November 28, 2011 02:22 PM (vjyZP)
Posted by: Herman Cain at November 28, 2011 02:22 PM (QcFbt)
Posted by: nevergiveup at November 28, 2011 02:22 PM (eCnLg)
On topic, I don't see why Cain's support, much of which came from Perry, automatically goes to Newt.
Posted by: Y-not looks on the bright side at November 28, 2011 02:23 PM (5H6zj)
Like The Newt?
Posted by: MrScribbler at November 28, 2011 06:20 PM (HkOAc)
Unless there are photos of Newt boinking (unwilling) farm animals, there's nothing new there. It's a plus that his personal crapweaselry is already in the public domain.
Posted by: Peaches at November 28, 2011 02:23 PM (eIczx)
Posted by: Tjexcite at November 28, 2011 02:23 PM (9D5EX)
She showed us some of her cell phone bills that included 61 phone calls or text messages to or from a number starting with 678. She says it is Herman Cain's private cell phone. The calls were made during four different months-- calls or texts made as early as 4:26 in the early morning, and as late as 7:52 at night. The latest were in September of this year.
“We've never worked together,” said White. “And I can't imagine someone phoning or texting me for the last two and a half years, just because.”
We texted the number and Herman Cain called us back. He told us he "knew Ginger White" but said these are "more false allegations." He said she had his number because he was "trying to help her financially.”link
Posted by: Herman Cain's family at November 28, 2011 02:23 PM (pLTLS)
13 years is a helluva long "affair". A lot of marriages don't last that long. I have a hard time believing that his wife didn't get wind of this during this period. So what is this Ginger's angle? She carries on a affair with a married man but duty now comples her to squeal on him out of love of country?
Either way he's done. Karma is a bitch.
Posted by: Cheri at November 28, 2011 02:23 PM (G+Wff)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at November 28, 2011 02:23 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: Shiggz
Well, I for one will sleep more soundly knowing that you've maintained a consistent position in the comments of someone else's blog.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 28, 2011 02:24 PM (mIucK)
Posted by: Anita Perry at November 28, 2011 02:24 PM (YFnYe)
Posted by: nevergiveup at November 28, 2011 02:24 PM (eCnLg)
Posted by: Doctor Fish at November 28, 2011 06:21 PM (Lt/Za)
Bill or Hillary?
Posted by: ErikW at November 28, 2011 02:25 PM (7/c9/)
Posted by: Pizza Delivery - Starring Danny Glover as Herman Cain at November 28, 2011 02:25 PM (BbX1b)
Could have something to do with me being a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable, uh, um.... dang. Sorry.
Posted by: El Rickster at November 28, 2011 02:25 PM (YFnYe)
Yeah, Gain is saying the Perrys had a rock with the phrase "Hoiman Gain's a horndog" painted on it and they did nothing about it for years...
Posted by: M. Murcek at November 28, 2011 02:26 PM (ToZXn)
13 years is a helluva long "affair". A lot of marriages don't last
that long. I have a hard time believing that his wife didn't get wind
of this during this period.
She probably "knew". She might not have had any direct proof, but she probably knew.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at November 28, 2011 02:26 PM (UR5vq)
@5: "Disappointing broad. She's named Ginger but looks more like Natalie from Facts of Life. False advertising."
Underestimate the attractiveness of easy, pudgy brunettes at your own risk, pal.
Posted by: Bill Clittin' at November 28, 2011 02:27 PM (jAqTK)
Posted by: laceyunderalls at November 28, 2011 02:27 PM (pLTLS)
I don't have a moral objection to Cain. I simply prefer a candidate who creates an image grounded in reality. It's a sign of intelligence.
As a former pussyhound I'm okay with pussyhounds. But pussyhounds must develop an image that prepares people for that reality. I mean you can't keep a 13 year affair secret.
Posted by: runninrebel at November 28, 2011 02:27 PM (i3PJU)
Posted by: Herman Cain at November 28, 2011 02:28 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at November 28, 2011 02:28 PM (AZGON)
Oh, wait. He is handling this about half as well as he did the previous allegations. So that's why he is ignoring all the early states--he's got them all wrapped up!!!
Posted by: Herman Cain--Endorsing Romney on 3-31-12 at November 28, 2011 02:28 PM (ycMO4)
-Currently I would give Newt a 30% to Mitt 70% chance of winning.. that's the highest not Romney I would have guessed since pre-Perrys first debate. Again to me that's a good sign.
Posted by: Shiggz - Newt (tentatively) at November 28, 2011 02:28 PM (I9fXA)
Posted by: Jean at November 28, 2011 02:28 PM (kUxiO)
Posted by: Noah Bawdy at November 28, 2011 02:28 PM (dCjum)
@9: "the thing that I don't get is that, if you're fooling around on the side, how can you event **think** of running for President... the odds of this type of thing coming out are probably greater than 90%... and will most likely not only torpedo your chances of winning, but will also pretty much destroy your marriage..."
Or maybe not....
Posted by: Bill Clittin' , Zombie John F. Kennedy, and Zombie Robert F. Kennedy at November 28, 2011 02:29 PM (jAqTK)
Posted by: Mittens RomRom at November 28, 2011 02:29 PM (+RWhm)
Pataki
Giuliani
Palin
Daniels
Christie
Pawlenty
Bachmann
Perry
Cain
Gingrich/Rubio!!!
(are we still on Rubio as VP?)
This is getting sad.
Posted by: CAC at November 28, 2011 02:29 PM (fv2m3)
Posted by: Peaches at November 28, 2011 06:23 PM
Ooooh, that's comforting!
Maybe in the New Age, where a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure can be elected without anyone knowing a damn thing about his past -- except what Bill Ayres told us -- this qualifies as a pass for The Newt, but I think he has a hell of a lot of crapweaselry that disqualifies him, too.
Does being a Great American and True Conservative (sometimes) mean he doesn't have to be honest and moral? That doesn't work for me.
No Cain, no Mutt Romney, no Newt.
Misstatements, Tardasil and misinterpreted actions in Texas notwithstanding, Perry sure as hell looks like the only way to go.
Posted by: MrScribbler at November 28, 2011 02:30 PM (HkOAc)
Because the sin is not having no standards, it's espousing standards you know you can't meet?
Posted by: nickless will probably get accidentally banned again soon at November 28, 2011 02:31 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: CAC at November 28, 2011 06:29 PM (fv2m3)
The Mayans may have been right about that whole 2012 thing for a whole bevy of reasons.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at November 28, 2011 02:31 PM (UR5vq)
I am guessing this started with poor lighting.
Then a woman answered the door for a pizza delivery, and demanded from Cain "where's the sausage"
Cue brown chicken brown cow, and 13 years later...Presidential timber?
Posted by: CAC at November 28, 2011 02:31 PM (fv2m3)
Posted by: M. Murcek at November 28, 2011 02:32 PM (ToZXn)
Posted by: MrScribbler at November 28, 2011 06:30 PM (HkOAc)
Let me tell you what I think of Herman Cai..hey, are you psychic?
Posted by: Sean Hannity at November 28, 2011 02:33 PM (fv2m3)
Answering for them: They're not, but their support for him was never about logic in the first place.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at November 28, 2011 02:33 PM (8y9MW)
Not one.
Perry is a strong Christian in a time when Christians and Christian values are under attack at home and abroad.
Posted by: Pecos, All Perry, all the time at November 28, 2011 02:33 PM (2Gb0y)
Let's face it- there's a word for someone who has an established pattern of saying and doing dumb things repeatedly. It's called "stupid".
I didn't want to believe it, but he's convinced me- the guy is just plain fucking stupid. No, his educational background decades ago doesn't change that.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at November 28, 2011 02:33 PM (SY2Kh)
Former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney, who charged Republican presidential primary rival Newt Gingrich with proposing “amnesty” for certain illegal immigrants, took a nearly identical position in a 2006 Bloomberg interview, saying some foreigners who entered the U.S. illegally should be allowed to remain and gain legal status.
Romney, who at the time hadn’t yet declared his first presidential candidacy for 2008, told reporters and editors in Bloomberg News’s Washington bureau that the 11 million immigrants who entered the U.S. illegally “are not going to be rounded up and box-carred out.” Law-abiding people who pay taxes, learn English and don’t rely on government benefits should be allowed to “get in line” to apply for citizenship, he said.
“We need to begin a process of registering those people, some being returned, and some beginning the process of applying for citizenship and establishing legal status,” Romney said during the March 29, 2006, session.
Posted by: Y-not at November 28, 2011 02:33 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at November 28, 2011 02:34 PM (AZGON)
If so, can he not be open to prosecution for paying for prostitution?
Oh, and to all the faith-based types who loved the pastor gospel singer Cain? Suck it.
Posted by: Random at November 28, 2011 02:34 PM (YiE0S)
Posted by: Countrysquire for Perry at November 28, 2011 02:34 PM (+RWhm)
Posted by: CAC at November 28, 2011 06:29 PM (fv2m3)
The Mayans may have been right about that whole 2012 thing for a whole bevy of reasons.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at November 28, 2011 06:31 PM (UR5vq)
So, how deep do I have to sink the bunker in order to survive a catastrophic asteroid strike?
And will there be ventilation issues?
Posted by: ErikW at November 28, 2011 02:34 PM (7/c9/)
I guess you missed the 'gay' rumors.
Posted by: nickless will probably get accidentally banned again soon at November 28, 2011 02:34 PM (MMC8r)
Gingrich/Rubio!!!
(are we still on Rubio as VP?)
Posted by: CAC at November 28, 2011 06:29 PM (fv2m3)
Nope, Rubio should be Senator for a while and Newt needs an accomplished Gov as Veep, since he lacks executive experience.
Posted by: Elize Nayden, Newtist at November 28, 2011 02:35 PM (97AKa)
Posted by: Peaches at November 28, 2011 02:35 PM (eIczx)
I am guessing this started with poor lighting.
Then a woman answered the door for a pizza delivery, and demanded from Cain "where's the sausage"
Go on.
Posted by: Penthouse Forum at November 28, 2011 02:35 PM (QKKT0)
The end of Old Yeller was "sad".
What we're seeing now is closer to the Hindenburg disaster.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at November 28, 2011 02:36 PM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: Soona at November 28, 2011 02:37 PM (XSlLt)
Posted by: Lojack at November 28, 2011 06:01 PM (AMNW2)"
When she calls Hillary for advice, you know his goose is cooked.
Posted by: prettypinkfluffypanties at November 28, 2011 02:37 PM (2RIoM)
Shocka!
Of course BW could have picked Mutt's statement from another day and gotten a third opinion from him.
Posted by: MrScribbler at November 28, 2011 02:37 PM (HkOAc)
Posted by: Pat Fuckin' Caddell at November 28, 2011 02:37 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: Shiggz - Newt (tentatively) at November 28, 2011 02:37 PM (I9fXA)
What we're seeing now is closer to the Hindenburg disaster.
Oh, the HERMAN-ITY!
Posted by: nickless will probably get accidentally banned again soon at November 28, 2011 02:38 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Lojack at November 28, 2011 02:38 PM (AMNW2)
Posted by: Yojimbo at November 28, 2011 02:38 PM (akKXh)
Gay rumors!?... No freakin way that man is gay.
Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp
Has your gaydar been calibrated recently?
Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 28, 2011 02:38 PM (D8lbf)
Posted by: CoolCzech at November 28, 2011 02:39 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Pat Fuckin' Caddell at November 28, 2011 02:39 PM (AZGON)
Then gird our loins.
I find it really hard to fathom how social con types who moved to Cain from Perry would shift to Newt or Mitt. I don't know how many folks like that there are, but I would think hope with Perry's improved communications strategy (better debate performances, detailed policy plan rollouts, and tv and radio ads) they might give him a second look. His record is still the most solid out there.
Posted by: Y-not at November 28, 2011 02:39 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Jean at November 28, 2011 06:28 PM (kUxiO)"
Heh! Did you know what you did there?
Posted by: prettypinkfluffypanties at November 28, 2011 02:39 PM (2RIoM)
Is that how you pay for sex without being charged with prostitution?
Posted by: Jimmuy at November 28, 2011 02:40 PM (ycMO4)
sort of on the topic, have any of you morons seen the movie A Guide for the Married Man? Watched it on HBO today with Erinn, absolutely hysterical. Also, whole lot of T&A for 1967. Especially the waitress in the opening credits pouring coffee.
If any of you morons actually remember it though from when it first came out, you are due for your visit to Soylent Green...
Posted by: CAC at November 28, 2011 02:40 PM (fv2m3)
Posted by: MDH3 at November 28, 2011 02:40 PM (GKyUC)
So, how deep do I have to sink the bunker in order to survive a catastrophic asteroid strike?
If we use Deep Impact as an example, you'll have to prepare to live in the limestone caves in Missouri for at least two years.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at November 28, 2011 02:40 PM (UR5vq)
Posted by: CoolCzech at November 28, 2011 02:40 PM (niZvt)
Nuthin'
Posted by: Texas Media at November 28, 2011 02:41 PM (tBMfq)
Pay no attention to this part here. That boy uh, Herman is clearly guilty and we're all very, very disappointed in him.
"Before our interview, we checked into Ginger WhiteÂ’s background. We found she filed a sexual harassment claim against an employer in 2001. That case was settled. We also found a bankruptcy filing nearly 23 years ago in Kentucky, and a number of eviction notices here in DeKalb County over the past six years. The most recent happened this month."
Posted by: Prick Rarey at November 28, 2011 02:41 PM (YFnYe)
Posted by: Pat Fuckin' Caddell at November 28, 2011 02:41 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: CoolCzech, Wrapping His Member in Extra Thick Bacon at November 28, 2011 02:42 PM (niZvt)
Nuthin'
Rick's not really the banging type at all.
*sigh*
Posted by: Anita Perry at November 28, 2011 02:42 PM (YFnYe)
Posted by: Y-not at November 28, 2011 02:42 PM (5H6zj)
My gaydar is usually spot on.... after I turned a man gay in the late 80's... I can usually spot em.
Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp at November 28, 2011 06:40 PM (qjUnn)
Ouch. I turned a lesbian straight in 2003, but that's more a postive thing than your scenario.
I defer to your calibration.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 28, 2011 02:42 PM (D8lbf)
Posted by: CoolCzech at November 28, 2011 02:43 PM (niZvt)
Something about cheating on his wife who had cancer, and even had a kid during the primary process.. which the media covered up. No, no bias or anything detected.
I'd like the two stooges who appear on fox news watch (used to be a good show, then the lefty panel members went full partisan retard), anyway, the two stooges who always say "wait, wait a minute! liberal bias? ha! That sounds like some kind of wacky conspiracy theory there! haha"
That show is so sickening now that I sometimes watch in disbelief.. wondering if i'm in some alternate reality, or even mentally ill. Nope. Turns out, the panelists are. Its funny when Colmes is on the show.. his hyperbolic defenses of all things liberal are so over the top that not even the host pays attention to what he's saying .. they just move on. HAHA
The whole 'Liberal bias? That there sounds like some wacky conspiracy theory! beam me up scottty!" thing is so maddening, I wish someone would rebut it, or just hit the offensive idiot over the head repeatedly with a chair until the whole studio is covered in blood. That line makes me sick. Its so obviously the last defense when you've lost an argument when 'racist!' doesn't fit the context.
Posted by: What a Jerk at November 28, 2011 02:44 PM (bcmD0)
So it's really not laudable. It's just standard, now that I think about it.
Could have taken the John Edwards approach...
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at November 28, 2011 02:44 PM (1hM1d)
Nuthin'
So much "Nuthin'" in fact, that all their smears in the last cycle had to begin with the admission that there was no evidence for the smears. It was really kind of funny.
Pay no attention to this part here. That boy uh, Herman is clearly guilty and we're all very, very disappointed in him.
Ah, yes, the old "His accuser is not pristine" defense. That's awesome. Let me know when you move on to the "But he pinky-swears he didn't do it" defense.
Or, you know, we can wait until the actual facts come in. How about that?
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at November 28, 2011 02:44 PM (8y9MW)
It's not the reason I didn't want Cain to be the nominee. I do not think he's qualified. He certainly has some skills and talents that could be valuable, but he's lacking in too many areas to be POTUS.
As far as the sex stuff - really, who cares? Cain and 50% of married people have had affairs. While it's not the right thing to do, it's really between Cain and his wife. I don't think it matters one bit in terms of someone being POTUS material or not.
Posted by: mike bell at November 28, 2011 02:44 PM (Kz6PE)
Except for that cartoon of Michael Vick laughing to the point of tears while holding a copy of Old Yeller. The caption said "I love a happy ending..."
Posted by: M. Murcek at November 28, 2011 02:44 PM (ToZXn)
Posted by: Gaynold at November 28, 2011 02:45 PM (AMNW2)
-One ace has been on my ass for weeks accusing me of being on the Cain Train, because I didn't agree with his preferred strategy for Cains exit.
-Mayhaps taking my opinions that I write and expect other to reads seriously, is a flaw. Nice to know you couldn't give a shit less what you write and if it contradicts anything yourself.. skipping your comments as mere unthinking verbal vomit should save me some time in the future... so thanks for revealing yourself as such.
Posted by: Shiggz - Newt (tentatively) at November 28, 2011 02:45 PM (I9fXA)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 28, 2011 02:45 PM (r4wIV)
Posted by: Y-not at November 28, 2011 02:46 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Y-not at November 28, 2011 06:42 PM (5H6zj)
Well, unless you count all the people here who have their mouths attached to my cock, darlin'.
Posted by: Rick Perry at November 28, 2011 02:46 PM (YFnYe)
Posted by: Spike at November 28, 2011 02:46 PM (g/arr)
It's beginning to appear that Cain has a fetish for the poor, bankrupt, can-you-spare-me-a-dime types.
Posted by: prettypinkfluffypanties at November 28, 2011 02:46 PM (2RIoM)
Posted by: CoolCzech at November 28, 2011 02:47 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Countrysquire for Perry at November 28, 2011 02:48 PM (+RWhm)
Thank you. I dont have much to offer the Moron crowd except my humiliating past.
Well, your wit counts. That's something.
And the boobehs too. Never forget the boobehs.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 28, 2011 02:48 PM (D8lbf)
Posted by: nevergiveup at November 28, 2011 02:48 PM (eCnLg)
If we use Deep Impact as an example, you'll have to prepare to live in the limestone caves in Missouri for at least two years.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at November 28, 2011 06:40 PM (UR5vq)
Just googled that, I might have to make a road trip. It appeals to the geek in me!
Posted by: ErikW at November 28, 2011 02:49 PM (7/c9/)
Newt has the intellect to get the job done, and we're not seeing that from Perry. Maybe from Romney. Not from Perry.
Newt's got the potential, in a way I don't think anyone else has, to be one of the great American Presidents.
Posted by: Random at November 28, 2011 02:49 PM (YiE0S)
Posted by: Herman Cain at November 28, 2011 02:49 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Spike at November 28, 2011 06:46 PM (g/arr)
ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
Posted by: prettypinkfluffypanties at November 28, 2011 02:49 PM (2RIoM)
Posted by: No Whining at November 28, 2011 02:50 PM (vR1fn)
She didn't call it off and hell hath no fury...? If this is true, that would be my guess.
Posted by: Slublog at November 28, 2011 02:50 PM (7pUHU)
Posted by: I'm Rick Perry, Bitch! at November 28, 2011 02:50 PM (MMC8r)
Wow. Turning a guy off from asking you for another date is one thing. Turning a guy off from the entire female gender -- that's really something.
Must've been quite a relationship.
Posted by: al-Cicero, Tea Party Jihadist at November 28, 2011 02:50 PM (QKKT0)
Posted by: Lojack at November 28, 2011 02:50 PM (AMNW2)
Posted by: Countrysquire for Perry at November 28, 2011 02:51 PM (+RWhm)
-----
Are you a social conservative?
I'm not really talking about all of the Perry to Cain support, just the ones who seemed to be attracted to Cain because they thought he was conservative, both fiscally and socially. To me, if you are weighing social conservative issues, it would be hard to go to Newt or Romney.
Posted by: Y-not at November 28, 2011 02:51 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: nevergiveup at November 28, 2011 02:52 PM (eCnLg)
Posted by: Herman Cain at November 28, 2011 02:52 PM (niZvt)
Until the "evangelical right" puts the "family values" litmus tests away, we on the right will be subjected to an endless stream of Elmer Gantrys.
Posted by: M. Murcek at November 28, 2011 02:52 PM (ToZXn)
Posted by: zoomwsu at November 28, 2011 02:52 PM (gStwB)
Big FU's to whoever is responsible for this sad state of affairs.
Whats next Community gets canceled and "whitney" gets a second season? I am about ready to start rooting for the asteroids and aliens in disaster movies.
Posted by: Shiggz - Newt (tentatively) at November 28, 2011 02:54 PM (I9fXA)
Posted by: Conservative Crank at November 28, 2011 02:54 PM (1zwZo)
For a stage 4 cancer survivor, he is surprisingly frisky.
Upside of Cain as President: he passes his physical
Downside of Cain as President: he rediscovers Bill Clinton's humidor.
Thanks, I'll pass.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 28, 2011 02:54 PM (D8lbf)
Not one.
Perry is a strong Christian in a time when Christians and Christian values are under attack at home and abroad.
Posted by: Pecos, All Perry, all the time at November 28, 2011 06:33 PM (2Gb0y)
Really? You have that much faith in the demotards that they won't pull whatever the hell they have to? All they have to do is find a few women that will say when he was just a governor, it wasn't that important to them to spill the beans, but now, NOW, that he's running for prez, people just need to know.
If you think, for one minute, that they aren't stockpiling and planning shit, you're naive, to say the least.
Posted by: Steph at November 28, 2011 02:54 PM (5xARG)
Meh, he's just doing it wrong.
Get in office first, then fuck them silly.
Posted by: Gmac at November 28, 2011 02:55 PM (binay)
Nonsense, JJS. It was just that you were so irresistible he couldn't help but be attracted to you. You're so fabulous, even teh ghey men are powerless when confronted with your charms. They may not be able to finish what they start, but they nonetheless can't help but give it a go.
Posted by: MissTammy at November 28, 2011 02:55 PM (SsG4J)
Why do successful executives have sex with fat fugs?
Clinton, etc.
And 13 years? That's not an affair, that's bigamy.
At least Mitt's "sister wives" aren't going to be a real surprise (sweet lord, Flipper better not be the nominee).
Posted by: imp at November 28, 2011 02:55 PM (UaxA0)
Posted by: Clutch Cargo at November 28, 2011 02:56 PM (Qxdfp)
Helloooooo! The statements of Cain's own people are "evidence." And pretty damning evidence, if they're reported correctly.
Posted by: al-Cicero, Tea Party Jihadist at November 28, 2011 02:56 PM (QKKT0)
Posted by: Spicoli at November 28, 2011 02:56 PM (JMsOK)
Crap. Cain was good bait for the LSM. They'll turn their guns on Gingrich and Romney now.
Unless... Let's all turn the polls to Ron Paul! He's entertaining!
Posted by: HoundOfDoom at November 28, 2011 02:57 PM (KhioZ)
I've read a number of articles, post and comments on this latest accusation and have not seen one, NOT ONE actual piece of evidence.
Evidently, denial is a river on AoSHQ
Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 28, 2011 02:57 PM (D8lbf)
I convicted him on his utter know-nothing attitude on policy.
Any Don Juanism is just a circus at this point.
Posted by: nickless will probably get accidentally banned again soon at November 28, 2011 02:57 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 28, 2011 02:57 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Herman Cain at November 28, 2011 02:58 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Rex Harrison's Hat at November 28, 2011 02:58 PM (4136b)
Posted by: MissTammy at November 28, 2011 02:59 PM (SsG4J)
Posted by: Take 'em all down...GO MITT at November 28, 2011 02:59 PM (MbeEN)
Posted by: Jones at November 28, 2011 03:00 PM (8sCoq)
I'm pro-life.
I'm not really talking about all of the Perry to Cain support, just the ones who seemed to be attracted to Cain because they thought he was conservative, both fiscally and socially. To me, if you are weighing social conservative issues, it would be hard to go to Newt or Romney.
Well it would have been impossible to go for Cain, except for that whole "faith" thing, that gets in the way of thought and evidence. If they could go for pro-choice Cain, Newt should be fine 'em -- he's certainly fine by me. The next President should be transformative, to counter Obama's revolution, and take things further toward the ideals America was founded upon.
Newt understands them, and has the smarts to cream Obama in a way Perry lacks.
Posted by: Random at November 28, 2011 03:00 PM (YiE0S)
Does it matter?.....Cain wasn't going to be the nominee regardless. Although, you could tell the Media, and Obama were scared to run against him.
He just doesn't have the chops yet!
Posted by: Spicoli at November 28, 2011 03:01 PM (JMsOK)
Can we be done with Cain now? He's muffed some foreign policy 101 stuff, he's got the stink of infidelity on him, and he's got no legislative experience.
I hear Godfather's is still offering franchising opportunities.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 28, 2011 03:01 PM (D8lbf)
Posted by: Idiot Redneck Conservative Who Also Cheats On His Wife at November 28, 2011 03:01 PM (s7mIC)
Posted by: Herman Cain at November 28, 2011 03:01 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: nevergiveup at November 28, 2011 03:01 PM (eCnLg)
Posted by: James Carville at November 28, 2011 03:01 PM (Te1S8)
Posted by: M. Murcek at November 28, 2011 03:02 PM (ToZXn)
Posted by: CoolCzech at November 28, 2011 03:03 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Y-not at November 28, 2011 06:39 PM (5H6zj)
Why should this affair move anybody from Cain to Newt? What, Newt's three affairs are so much better because he dumped his wives because of them? I don't get it.
Posted by: lowandslow at November 28, 2011 03:03 PM (GZitp)
That's a somewhat de-bunked thing that was put out there. Cain spent $1 million of his own money trying to get blacks to vote pro-life, apparently. It's true he garbled his response on abortion, but I think he's basically a "personally opposed, but..." flavor of guy. At least as good as Mitt.
And there's more to being a social con than abortion. Cain definitely played up the minister angle in his campaign.
Posted by: Y-not at November 28, 2011 03:03 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: nevergiveup at November 28, 2011 03:04 PM (eCnLg)
Posted by: CoolCzech at November 28, 2011 03:04 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Warden at November 28, 2011 03:04 PM (A4O7+)
“I mean, there’s a certain amount of growth that’s inevitable, and that people will look at new situations and new circumstances. But I had over my entire career a 90 percent voting record [from] the American Conservative Union. I don’t think anybody thought of me as anything less than a solid conservative.”
umm, Newt, how about when you were spooning with Nancy on the couch? some of us were thinking you were something less than a solid conservative at that moment
Posted by: chemjeff-wino at November 28, 2011 03:05 PM (s7mIC)
Social Issues are pointless for this election. As far as I am concerned, concede all the social issue to the Left's position, prevent the narative from being focused on them, because that is how the Left always pulls these victory's out. The population always gets sucked in these topics, and default to the Left anyway, so confuse them, but just taking the same positions.
We have bigger Fish to Fry. The social issues are stuff we can fight over when we are Fat an Happy....right now we are starved and scared.
Posted by: Spicoli at November 28, 2011 03:05 PM (JMsOK)
Posted by: nevergiveup at November 28, 2011 03:06 PM (eCnLg)
Perry's stumbles have primarily come when he's attacked from the right.
As governor of Texas he's taken on Obama in a way that none of them (except Bachmann) have.
Posted by: Y-not at November 28, 2011 03:06 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Lojack at November 28, 2011 03:07 PM (AMNW2)
You do realize Mitt is not what you call rock-solid on energy issues, right?
Posted by: Y-not at November 28, 2011 03:07 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: asdf at November 28, 2011 03:08 PM (ZUqYq)
Cain lied about it too, today, on CNN.
He presented himself, in part, as a good, moral, Christian man, a pastor, a gospel singer, etc. He used his wife for her public support after receiving 4 sexual harassment allegations. And now this. Cain is finished, but millions of dollars richer due to campaign contributions and book sales (including by his campaign itself).
Those who supported Cain based on his character: he simply was NOT a good guy.
*quoted from "takeamericabackin10" commenting at Hot Air
Posted by: Random at November 28, 2011 03:09 PM (YiE0S)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at November 28, 2011 03:09 PM (AZGON)
It was all just pillow talk.
Posted by: Not Drinking Nearly Enough at November 28, 2011 03:09 PM (HtUdo)
This doesn't really surprise me, to be honest
In fact, I suspect that this was the real motivation between Herman Cain's only official accuser -- ie, they had a consentual affair and she decided to accuse him of sexual harrassment to get back at him for breaking it off. It was really the only way I could reconcile the specific amount of detail she gave regarding the hotel stay with her attempts to flirt with him not six months ago and the unbelievable parts of her story (specifically, the "stimulus package" line. At the time the line would have been uttered, in 1997, that joke simply would not have made any sense -- kinda like hearing a Bryan Adams song in a movie about the Robin Hood or the Three Musketeers).
Posted by: Sean P at November 28, 2011 03:09 PM (M3QBc)
Posted by: nevergiveup at November 28, 2011 03:10 PM (eCnLg)
Posted by: Y-not at November 28, 2011 07:07 PM (5H6zj)
yup, he's even more sucked in by the enviro-nonsense
Posted by: chemjeff-wino at November 28, 2011 03:10 PM (s7mIC)
This just proves that all Republicans are HYPOCRITES about sex and that GAY PRIDE parades where grown men suck each other's cocks in front of children are awesome and NORMAL, you racist WINGNUTS!!!
Posted by: Warden at November 28, 2011 03:10 PM (A4O7+)
"less than a solid conservative at that moment"
O.K., but let's just face it. Conservatives are not going to get what they want this time around period. The best bet is for Newt to take the Conservative momentum, and not screw us over. Romney is soft, easily foldable, but I think will hold the line on some issues that are in line with Conservatives.
Posted by: Spicoli at November 28, 2011 03:10 PM (JMsOK)
Posted by: steevy at November 28, 2011 03:11 PM (7WJOC)
As one of the big early Cain supporters (and by early, when this Pollutico slime-job started), I am officially abandoning him.
Actually, I wasn't going to vote for him anyway. But our love affair, it is over.
Posted by: Truman North at November 28, 2011 03:11 PM (G5JPI)
Posted by: Y-not at November 28, 2011 07:06 PM (5H6zj)
Don't deny me the pleasure of watching Newt follow Obama across the country, rebutting everything Obama says. The pressure on Obama to respond to that will grow immensely. Then don't deny me my Lincoln-Douglas-style Newt/Obama debates!Posted by: Random at November 28, 2011 03:11 PM (YiE0S)
Posted by: nevergiveup at November 28, 2011 03:12 PM (eCnLg)
Posted by: steevy at November 28, 2011 03:13 PM (7WJOC)
I really don't understand why they didn't have an obligation to turn it over to the police. There'd be no worries about lawsuits for doing that. Frankly, if it was authentic, they sure as shit were morally obligated to do something about it and if it was not authentic, then that was also evidence of a different type of crime (possible extortion by the accuser).
Posted by: Y-not at November 28, 2011 03:13 PM (5H6zj)
IDF confirms at least three Katyusha rockets explode in Western Galilee, search area for forth rocket; no injuries reported, but several structures sustain damage. IDF forces respond with artillery fire on Lebanon
Just saw that. Either some Hezzie prematurely blew his wad or Iran is trying to retaliate for the loss of several of its missile bases.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at November 28, 2011 03:13 PM (UR5vq)
Posted by: nevergiveup at November 28, 2011 03:13 PM (eCnLg)
Really? I read that the University knew about them, but not that the police did.
Posted by: Y-not at November 28, 2011 03:13 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: I'm in a New York state of mind at November 28, 2011 03:15 PM (ndp2I)
Posted by: nevergiveup at November 28, 2011 03:15 PM (eCnLg)
Posted by: steevy at November 28, 2011 03:16 PM (7WJOC)
That's not good for Syracuse, imho. They had a conflict of interest. They should have turned it over to the DA or the state police or someone years ago.
Posted by: Y-not at November 28, 2011 03:16 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: zoomwsu at November 28, 2011 06:52 PM (gStwB)
Agree. I am really starting to see how the SCOAMF got elected in 2008. People don't want proof or facts. They just want to BELIEVE.
Show me some irrefutable facts that Cain had this affair and I'll write him off my "good man" list. Otherwise I'll just consider most of you no better than the 52%.
Posted by: Soona at November 28, 2011 03:16 PM (XSlLt)
Posted by: Truman North at November 28, 2011 07:11 PM (G5JPI)
Kiss me you fool!
Posted by: Rick Perry at November 28, 2011 03:16 PM (nEUpB)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at November 28, 2011 03:17 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: CoolCzech at November 28, 2011 03:17 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Y-not at November 28, 2011 03:17 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: steevy at November 28, 2011 03:18 PM (7WJOC)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at November 28, 2011 03:18 PM (AZGON)
Well, he did found the Democratic Party.
Posted by: Not Drinking Nearly Enough at November 28, 2011 03:18 PM (HtUdo)
"Otherwise I'll just consider most of you no better than the 52%."
Ahhh-C'mon! It doesn't matter regardless, Cain didn't have a chance to get the Nod. His is very weak on foreign policy, the 9-9-9 Plan has some major flaws that he would have been forced to change, and nobody really believed he had the Chops to take it to Obama during the general. He was always "possible running mate status," the only difference now, is that he has no shot at becoming the VP.
Posted by: Spicoli at November 28, 2011 03:19 PM (JMsOK)
Posted by: nevergiveup at November 28, 2011 03:20 PM (eCnLg)
But the only important issue is that Israel did not use "proportional force" when reacting to what was clearly a political message. Hezbollah didn't mean to hurt anyone!
Posted by: 6.9 billion anti-Semites at November 28, 2011 03:20 PM (nEUpB)
So, if I come forward and say a woman is going to come forward and claim I had a cup of coffee with her, will you blog about me?
Because I can do that.
Posted by: JON HUNTSMAN at November 28, 2011 03:20 PM (Qxdfp)
Nice lips, though, for a granny.
Not what I'd call a GILFTHHDMPA (Granny I'd Like To Fuck Then Have Her Destroy My Presidential Ambitions).
Posted by: nickless will probably get accidentally banned again soon at November 28, 2011 03:20 PM (MMC8r)
So he knocked up some slave chick too? Whoa
Posted by: Zombie Tom Jefferson at November 28, 2011 03:20 PM (s7mIC)
Did you folks see the link I posted this morning about the University of Utah professor (of materials science and engineering) who was arrested yesterday when his cabin-mate saw him viewing child pron on his laptop while he was in first class?
Lovely.
Posted by: Y-not at November 28, 2011 03:21 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: steevy at November 28, 2011 03:21 PM (7WJOC)
Posted by: Lojack at November 28, 2011 03:22 PM (AMNW2)
The previous psuedo messiah exposed as turd, and no McCain insight.
However, the world is inconceivably worse in so many ways. The currency and middle east crisis under Carter will seem as nothing compared to what has been sewn and is irreversibly growing today.
Realistically even McCain or Reagan could have stopped the middle east from rising up against western funded tyrants.. (Just as I think, Daniel prophesied) but what Obama has accomplished through encouragement and passivity and the CNN types cheered...will be cursed in history matching only my old but cherished NY Times article praising "how Hitler had learned his lesson while in prison and peace would again come to Europe."
Posted by: Shiggz - Newt (tentatively) at November 28, 2011 03:22 PM (I9fXA)
Posted by: nevergiveup at November 28, 2011 03:22 PM (eCnLg)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at November 28, 2011 03:22 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: steevy at November 28, 2011 03:23 PM (7WJOC)
Posted by: Herman Cain's as-yet-undisclosed Thai tranny porn habit at November 28, 2011 03:23 PM (s7mIC)
Posted by: nevergiveup at November 28, 2011 03:23 PM (eCnLg)
Posted by: CoolCzech at November 28, 2011 03:24 PM (niZvt)
She says he gave her his newly-published book, Leadership is Common Sense, and he wrote: “Miss G, you have already made a 'big difference!’
"In my pants."
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 28, 2011 03:24 PM (oBrVT)
Yes and it is very sickening that this pedo was so brazen to do that on an airplane and expect to get away with it.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at November 28, 2011 03:24 PM (UR5vq)
Posted by: steevy at November 28, 2011 03:24 PM (7WJOC)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at November 28, 2011 03:24 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: CoolCzech at November 28, 2011 03:26 PM (niZvt)
Anybody read the story about Bill Frist possibly being an Obama Lover? Apparently from the runors, Obama only likes the BJ's from Older White Men.
If we are gonna argue over lover affars, we should vetting Obama's love story. As far as I can tell, Obama is a straight up CakeBoy. There is too much out there now for me to change my mind.
It all makes perfect sense. How come this is the news story of the century?
Posted by: Spicoli at November 28, 2011 03:26 PM (JMsOK)
Ahhh-C'mon! It doesn't matter regardless, Cain didn't have a chance to get the Nod. His is very weak on foreign policy, the 9-9-9 Plan has some major flaws that he would have been forced to change, and nobody really believed he had the Chops to take it to Obama during the general. He was always "possible running mate status," the only difference now, is that he has no shot at becoming the VP.
Posted by: Spicoli at November 28, 2011 07:19 PM (JMsOK)
As I said in the pre-double post, it doesn't matter to me whether he's going to be the nominee or not (I'm a Perry or Newt guy), I don't like seeing a fellow conservative bashed like this without any proof. I think this blog is setting a bad precedence.
Posted by: Soona at November 28, 2011 03:26 PM (XSlLt)
Posted by: CoolCzech at November 28, 2011 03:26 PM (niZvt)
I'm surprised that he didn't pull IT out.
Posted by: toby928© at November 28, 2011 03:28 PM (GTbGH)
dude, it is 'anything goes' at the HQ
I don't know if there is anyone who is immune from the wrath and/or snarkitude of the Moron Horde
Posted by: chemjeff-wino at November 28, 2011 03:29 PM (s7mIC)
"will be cursed in history"
Yep....We don't exactly know what the uprising in the Middle East are really all about. Obama could have just passively allowed a three-headed monster to be born that could grow to the size of the planet, and destroy everything in it's path.
Time will tell!
Posted by: Spicoli at November 28, 2011 03:30 PM (JMsOK)
To quote myself from the other thread: Hmm, a non-denial denial. Historically followed by a forceful denial, then a semi-walkback, then a return to strong denial with polygraph.
On schedule I'd say.
Posted by: toby928© at November 28, 2011 03:30 PM (GTbGH)
Posted by: jewells45..teapartyterrorist at November 28, 2011 03:31 PM (Z71Vg)
She says he gave her his newly-published book, Leadership is Common Sense, and he wrote: “Miss G, you have already made a 'big difference!’
Well, damn, that just seals it. Proof...proof, I tells ya that he was beating that like a blender.
And, no, I'm not for Cain, and never have been. This is just getting ludicrous.
Posted by: Steph at November 28, 2011 03:32 PM (5xARG)
Posted by: blue bonnet at November 28, 2011 03:36 PM (oZfic)
All republicans who may run against Obama are racist rapists who are having affairs.
They've pretty much admitted it.
Posted by: Z Ryan at November 28, 2011 03:36 PM (tsC/8)
Posted by: toby928© at November 28, 2011 03:40 PM (GTbGH)
I don't know if there is anyone who is immune from the wrath and/or snarkitude of the Moron Horde
Posted by: chemjeff-wino at November 28, 2011 07:29 PM (s7mIC)
I'm the first one to say that I love the brutal snarkitude of the moron horde. But only when there's a common truth or facts backing it up. Like leftards suck the big one. That's a common truth. Or that Barky is a SCOAMF. We've all got facts to back that up.
But to tear apart a conservative who's on our side from just accusations or hearsay is defeating the goal that many of us want; a conservative WH and congress. We can't do that if we insist on eating our own.
Posted by: Soona at November 28, 2011 03:41 PM (XSlLt)
Posted by: blue bonnet at November 28, 2011 03:44 PM (oZfic)
For me? this is important because its a matter of character.
Why should I believe your VOW to God, during the oath of Office, if you've broken your Marriage Vows?
As we've seen with Obama... the wrong person as President can really wreck this country... as there are very few actual Limits put on his power... and ALL of those limits come from the Federal Government...
ergo... for me, the character of the candidate IS very important.
Posted by: Mars at November 28, 2011 03:45 PM (NtXW4)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, still for perry at November 28, 2011 03:46 PM (SH3gZ)
Personally, I think this whole campaign season has had far too much jumping all over the candidates -- all of the candidates (except one, frankly) -- based on allegations and rumors and generic missteps. But I don't think Cain has gotten it any worse than most of them. The result of this feeding frenzy has been to play into the Romney campaign strategy, which does not make me happy.
But a woman has apparently come out on the record with allegations she claims she can prove, so covering the story -- particularly scrutinizing Cain's handling of it (in light of how badly he's handled some other things) -- seems relevant to me.
Posted by: Y-not at November 28, 2011 03:47 PM (5H6zj)
Yes and it is very sickening that this pedo was so brazen to do that on an airplane and expect to get away with it.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at November 28, 2011 07:24 PM (UR5vq)
Soooo... that makes it First Class Porn?
Posted by: Shecky Rimshot, try the veal at November 28, 2011 03:48 PM (NtXW4)
Posted by: BurtTC at November 28, 2011 03:51 PM (Gc/Qi)
Well, whether her story is true or not, there's something funky about a woman making these claims who has lost a stalking and defamation case before. One her business partner brought against her and won.
Face it, Cain was never going to win the nom, but this is just the beginning of the nasty crap to come. Ole Herm won't be the only one that will face whatever they can dig up, lie about, and use to defame.
Posted by: Steph at November 28, 2011 03:57 PM (5xARG)
Check the link at HA. She has phone records that include 61 calls and text messages to and from Cain's personal cell phone number over the space of 4 months. The reporter doing the story sent a text to the number, Cain called back.
Of course, he was "just trying to help her financially". At 4am. 61 times.
If she has a checkered past... what do you expect from a woman who knowingly had an affair with a married guy? Rich women don't need sugar daddies.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at November 28, 2011 04:05 PM (SY2Kh)
It pisses me off, though. Obama is rumored to have had an affair, too, and the rumor is that the woman was taken out of the country.
Posted by: sydney jane at November 28, 2011 04:05 PM (D1A3M)
Posted by: Jean at November 28, 2011 04:06 PM (tvOF2)
Posted by: Jean at November 28, 2011 08:06 PM (tvOF2
Then they start blaming it on Perry
Posted by: buzzion at November 28, 2011 04:08 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: Jean at November 28, 2011 04:09 PM (tvOF2)
Posted by: Ken Royall at November 28, 2011 04:11 PM (9zzk+)
--------
Because Cain has worn his Baptist minister badge on his sleeve this entire campaign and Newt has not. And, Cain has had to fend off (at least) a couple of sexual harassment allegations in his career, so that calls into question his conduct with women.
IIRC during the first debate (the one where Bachmann mentioned her two dozen kids every five seconds and all the rest of them went on and on about their home lives) Newt kept his mouth shut. He has not pretended to be the paragon of virtue. How could he? Plus, he has apparently reformed and become a more religious person in his personal life.
Posted by: Y-not at November 28, 2011 04:22 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Herman Cain at November 28, 2011 04:40 PM (Rxume)
Posted by: Ken Royall at November 28, 2011 08:11 PM (9zzk+)"
Good point Ken, here here. I say we should forget about all this sex talk, except of course gay sex and prostitution as that's still wrong.
Posted by: Herman Cain at November 28, 2011 04:43 PM (Rxume)
Posted by: And So It Goes ePub at November 28, 2011 04:48 PM (idNQ6)
Thanks, I clicked on your link.
Posted by: Herman Cain at November 28, 2011 04:54 PM (Rxume)
I wonder how those who donated to him feel now?
Kinda like they been bit by the ol' ponzi scheme.
Cain is a jerk.
Posted by: TypicalWhitey at November 28, 2011 05:03 PM (xeVap)
Posted by: Zombie Donald Young, TUCC Choir Director at November 28, 2011 05:04 PM (e6MoS)
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Posted by: teh wind at November 28, 2011 05:11 PM (GkYyh)
I'm gonna be living the high life off of all of you suckers' sweet, sweet campaign donations. Hell, the book sales are just gravy at this point.
Posted by: Herman Cain for America at November 28, 2011 05:11 PM (Jl3Mu)
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Posted by: cackfinger at November 28, 2011 05:24 PM (a9mQu)
If it was bad enough for Clinton...
If it was bad enough for Clinton...
It's bad enough for Cain....
Posted by: SethPower at November 28, 2011 05:25 PM (e6MoS)
Posted by: The Beauty and the Sorrow ePub at November 28, 2011 05:26 PM (05OZP)
I am conservative and believe in imaginary beings whom tells me not to love sex and money, and I do the opposite instead?
Posted by: Herman Cain at November 28, 2011 05:27 PM (hGBoP)
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Posted by: Gooner at November 29, 2011 12:12 AM (MJrvg)
Being wed, what goes on in our bedroom is one thing. What goes on in the other women's bedrooms with my husband is not sanctified as "private" or off limits from public scrutiny of anyone seeking elected office.
Posted by: Mrs. Cain at November 29, 2011 03:18 AM (lpWVn)
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