1 Amazing stuff indeed.

2 What does "conservative" mean in Canada as compared to US?

3 I'm gonna try and look for some Liberal schadenfreude!

4 It means good! Harper is about the only world leader not dancing the AGW jig, odd thing, most Canadians are very conservative but love the Liberals, untill now, look what Rob Ford is doing in Toronto.

5 So Canada as a back up plan if for some reason Obama wins reelection in 2012?

6

Been following this closely for the last month.  It seems that Soros money was behind the leftists in Canada and it's money wasted.  Boo hoo.

Conservative ideas on the rise in the Western world people.  Yes.

7 What does "conservative" mean in Canada as compared to US? The Democratic Party. The Liberals are the...Pelosi wing, and the NDP would be the Kos crowd.

8 I won.

9

Why? No matter where you are, libtards suck.

Speaking of suck:

Obama - the anti-war president, is all pro-war now.

10 I'll say this about the NDP:  They're frank and no B.S. about their socialism.  The Liberals (and too often the Tories) far too often fight for the same squishy middle ground and ape positions of the other.  At least Layton will be an honest broker, even if a lefty one.

11 The joke going around before the election was the NDP candidates in Quebec thought it would be neat to be in an election before they had to go out (ooot?) and get a summer job. Jack! Layton, head of the NDP is a hardcore socialist, and not to be trusted, especially near Asian sex trade workers.

12 Congratulations to Stephen Harper and the Conservative Party! It will be interesting to see how they govern now that they have a majority.

13 2 What does "conservative" mean in Canada as compared to US?

Posted by: rae4palin at May 02, 2011 11:03 PM (G4RRM)

--A lot of them are more fiscally conservative than W., that's for sure.

14 5 So Canada as a back up plan if for some reason Obama wins reelection in 2012?

Posted by: Nate at May 02, 2011 11:06 PM (BBlzg)

--Canada is my plan, period.

15 12 Congratulations to Stephen Harper and the Conservative Party! It will be interesting to see how they govern now that they have a majority.

Is there a Canadian take on "gravitas"? 

16 How much has the NDP sold out though to those in Quebec to score a lot of riding pickups, and what will that mean to the leadership of the party, and their long-term viability as the opposition. I don't know enough about Canada's parties to say for certain, but it seems to me having parachute candidates, or having true French candidates in Quebec as a significant bloc could cause ruffles. But then again they could fall in line like the "blue dogs" do here with the Democrats.

17 Oh, look, it's Iggy.

18 I could think of a lot worse things than putting the first 40 people in various districts' phone books into office.....

....like leaving the perennial parasite class in power.

19 Yeah, the pollsters really pooched this one. Just like they did with the Toronto mayoral election.

20 I don't know enough about Canada's parties to say for certain, but it seems to me having parachute candidates, or having true French candidates in Quebec as a significant bloc could cause ruffles.

But then again they could fall in line like the "blue dogs" do here with the Democrats.

Posted by: Doc at May 02, 2011 11:11 PM (jGXQI)

--They owe Layton big time; he gets a lot of credit for the surge.  I'm just glad the NDP gains were at BQ/Grit expense.

21 Amazing, I was just watching how a green candidate that encouraged Cap and Trade was kicking ass with young voters (that don't vote) and conservatives were dying octogenarians ( That do vote).

22 How much has the NDP sold out though to those in Quebec to score a lot of riding pickups, and what will that mean to the leadership of the party, and their long-term viability as the opposition.

Meh, they're mostly Communists over there. Whether they have a separatist Communist trying to wheedle free government cheese out of the rest of the country, or a non-separatist Communist trying to the exact same thing, the important thing is the steady flow of stolen cheese.

23 France and Canada conservative while the USA slips into socialism.  Bizarro world indeed.

24 Liberals are now taking up the old Tory sport of keelhauling their leader. Iggy, if expected, gets shafted by the caucus, it'll be the third leadership change in seven years. Back to Haavahd for you, Count Iggy.

25 Ignatieff says he'll be happy to play whatever role the party wants him to going forward. My guess is they'd like him to the play the role of the guy they never see again.

26 +25 net pickup for the Tories so far.

27

Canada has done a great job in the last decade or so in reducing their national debt (particularly relative to GDP). We would do well to follow their example on this.

Congrats to conservatives there. We need some of that.

28 Now Canada has a Far Right vs. Far Left with nothing in the middle.

29 --They owe Layton big time; he gets a lot of credit for the surge. I'm just glad the NDP gains were at BQ/Grit expense. -- Ah, ok. I mean, I know BQ was the official opposition to the Liberals for a while in the 1990s when the PC party imploded post-Mulroney. I figured some of the movement could be from BQ -> NDP for a payoff.

30 How stupid are the Canadian Liberals to have turned their party over to an academic/activist, with no politcal experience and has spent most of his adult life outside of the country?

That's just insane.

And this neophyte crashes the Conservative minority government only leads to a Conservative majority and the destruction of his own party.

Oops.

31 LMAO at some Canadian lefties comments, whining that Harper will turn Canada into a Baby USA.

Uh, looks who's running the show, folks.  Bush is long gone. . . .

32 Ignatieff lost his seat, as did Gilles Duceppe, leader of the Quebec separatists.

33 How stupid are the Canadian Liberals to have turned their party over to an academic/activist, with no politcal experience and has spent most of his adult life outside of the country? That's just insane. -- To think if they had just looked to the South...

34 It looks like the Conservatives lost in a lot of places while still gaining seats. Is the country stratified like the US now with one party completely dominating certain areas?

35 Doubling down: Iggy seems to be saying he won;t step down.

36 This guy is a true liberal...sure we lost but that's because we're just too damn good.

37 The Canadian media tried so hard to destroy Harper and it simply didn't work. Of course, Iggy did his part by self-destructing but it's wonderful to see media propaganda doesn't always work.

38 Doubling down: Iggy seems to be saying he won;t step down. Like I said, Liberals are the Pelosi Democrats.

39 Damn Iggy, I am seeing why you lost.

40 Conservative Majority, yayyyyyyyyy!

41 Per NationalPost.com, as of right now: Leading/Elected (155 needed for majority) -- Conservatives 168 NDP 102 Liberals 33 Bloc Quebecois 4 Greens 1

42 No more elections for 4-5 years, yayyyyyyyyy!

43 Jack! Layton, head of the NDP is a hardcore socialist, and not to be trusted, especially near Asian sex trade workers.

Posted by: Bruce at May 02, 2011 11:09 PM (/G5uz)

I still can't get over that. Who the fuck rides a bicycle to a massage parlor?

44

It's not a wave, wingnuts.

And Obama is a shoe-in in 2012!

45 ("Bloc Quebecois" is the plural of "Bloc Quebecoi.")

46 Well now.  Glad I just converted a bunch of fiat to Canadian fiat.

I don't understand why I don't see a bunch of border businesses advertising that they take Canadian at par, like they did in my youth. If I owned a business within 100 miles of the border, that is all I would take right now. That, and silver.

47

Layton used to live in my home town...fucker used to drive around in a black Ferrari to impress the chicks...nobody was really impressed, even back then (this was in the 80's).

That's the hypocrite head of the socialists in Canada.

48 36 It looks like the Conservatives lost in a lot of places while still gaining seats. Is the country stratified like the US now with one party completely dominating certain areas?

Posted by: Rocks at May 02, 2011 11:24 PM (th0op)

--All but one riding in Alberta are Tory.  Toronto had been a traditional Grit stronghold, but decided enough was enough.

The story may be that the Tories made big inroads among immigrant communities this time.

49 Seriously, how shitty is prime-time TV when the Canadian election coverage on C-Span is the most interesting thing on?

50 fucker used to drive around in a black Ferrari to impress the chicks... But were his disco-dancing skills better than Assange's?

51 Layton used to live in my home town...fucker used to drive around in a black Ferrari to impress the chicks

Hahaha, really? Fucking champagne socialists.

52 I predict major loses for conservatives everywhere!

53 54 I predict major loses for conservatives everywhere!

Posted by: Greg, Lifelong Conservative at May 02, 2011 11:34 PM (u8JAM)

Take off!

54 Hey how come no one is mentioning the Green Party is looking at a 100% increase in members?

55

Weren't the Canadian Conservatives all but wiped out a few years ago? And the Frog Bloc was going to take Quebec out of Canada?  

All the pundits declaring the Tories were finished and now they have won 3(guessing?) elections in a row now? 

Funny how things change.

56 But were his disco-dancing skills better than Assange's?

Posted by: Stumbo at May 02, 2011 11:32 PM (dPaNC)

I was in high school at the time...never saw his disco dancing skillz...bet he tried though.

Hahaha, really? Fucking champagne socialists.
Posted by: Waterhouse at May 02, 2011 11:32 PM (Spzxr)

I don't know why lefties don't see through their leader's drooling lust for money and power...it's a deliberate kind of blindness.

 

57 No CSPAN HD?

58 Ignatieff takes Canada's Natural Governing Party out for a beer and to its worst defeat ever, but mostly to its worst defeat ever.

59 If I had known the tape I just sent out was going to be my last message I wouldn't have used it to congratulate the Liberal Party.

60 Harper 2012?  He won't need to release his birth certificate until his 3rd year in office.

61

Weren't the Canadian Conservatives all but wiped out a few years ago? And the Frog Bloc was going to take Quebec out of Canada?

All the pundits declaring the Tories were finished and now they have won 3(guessing?) elections in a row now?

Funny how things change.

Posted by: Log Cabin at May 02, 2011 11:36 PM (h+Bqe)

Yep, two minorities and now this majority gov't.  The Conservatives were wiped out in the 90's thanks to former Prime Minister Brian Mulrony, who was what you'd call a 'Red Tory' which means really communist.  They deserved to be wiped out after that bastard.

Anyway, they wandered the frozen wastes for 10 years, learned their lessons and rebuilt the party and now they're good.

62 Welcome to the rest of Canada, Quebec!

63 Would someone tell me if this is a big fuckin' deal?

64 Epic day! The end of Osama The end of the BQ Party The biggest historical defeat of the Liberals EVER And...this will be the END of the Long Gun Registry...it'll be interesting to see how many admit how many guns they actually have now...you know...those ones which were lost. It's now going to be Capitalist vs Communists in the House of Commons...should be fun.

65 Go Quebecois! You can do it... you can do it all night loong!

66 Do they have high speed rail yet?

67 I can't wait to get Mark Steyn's take on these elections tomorrow.  The gleeful snark will be biting and brilliant, as always.

68 Now only 2 seats for BQ.

69 It's the Lib's own fault for choosing as their Prime Minister candidate a guy who spent most of his adult life living in the US and has stated he intends to return thier if he doesn't win.  Imagine if the Dems had run a candidate for President who wasn't really American and didn't seem to care about America.... oh wait.

70 69 I can't wait to get Mark Steyn's take on these elections tomorrow.  The gleeful snark will be biting and brilliant, as always.

Posted by: MWR at May 02, 2011 11:42 PM (CA2NO)

--Unless and until those star chamber "human rights" courts are abolished, Steyn will be tentative.

71 Hahahaha.. I just read a "diary" over at Daily Kooks that spanned the afternoon then into this evening..

It started out all hopeful, quoting stats like the Conservatives have only a 10% chance at majority.. lol!  The mood as I went through the comments as time went on went sour.. very sour.   How nice!  (is that schadenfreude???) 

Libtard pricks..  they are blind as to which way the winds are blowing..  Let's do the same here next year!

72 NDP=No Damn Pudding?

73 Ce soir, on danse a Naziland! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyiGpzUHjbM

74 70 Edit: They changed it back to 3, though it really doesn't matter.

75 I know it's probably liberal as hell but Montreal is my favorite city. It's like NYC but clean and with nice people.

76 It's funny to listen to all the losing party members talking about how Canadian's want change...and that THEY are the change which is wanted...dude...you just got tossed...don't let the door hit you on the way out!

77 Posted by: Log Cabin at May 02, 2011 11:36 PM (h+Bqe)

Yeah, in '93 the Conservatives went from the majority with Mulroney to 2 seats. Took about a decade until Harper got them back on the map.

78 Hey Mikey, how my ass taste?

79 Libtard pricks.. they are blind as to which way the winds are blowing.. Let's do the same here next year! -- The lady on the CBC (via CSpan2) just discussed how Quebec is moving in a different direction than the rest of the country and took many shots at Harper and Conservatives for not doing more to appeal to them. Not mentioned: Other wins by the conservative party and having a majority government. Or how Quebec could just be different, just in a new way I guess.

80

Peter what's his face, the guy who has anchored the CBC news forever, is actually pretty good. I know he's a lib, but he's actually more even handed than any of the American network anchors.

I am impressed by the news coverage the Canadians get. It seems more factual and less opinion driven than ours in the states. Or maybe tonight is an exception. 

 

81

Anyone watching those GOP debates soon. I'm not.

82 Actually, for them, it's pudding galore, FJ. Their best showing ever, by a mile. (Er, by 1.6 kilometres.)

83 74 NDP=No Damn Pudding?

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at May 02, 2011 11:45 PM (qIHlG)

 

New Democrat Party...commies in other words

84 The BBQs got it torn off.

85 Took about a decade until Harper got them back on the map. Let's also give some credit to Manning and Day.

86 Fuck, dumbass VP sock off.

87 the strongest seperatist movement is now outside of quebec, it's the good-riddance movement. those bastards have been blackmailing english canada for years with the threat of separation, and provinces like alberta are forced to pay them huge amounts to stay. now quebec goes all out socialist to demand even more money. i think they'll be surprised, that if they throw a fit and threaten to separate again, the rest of canada will be happy to see them go.

but at least the BQ leader, unlike Ignatieff, has the class to step down.

88 Duceppe just resigned!

89 I salute our neighbors to the north.  There is hope that we will all not go to the socialist whirlpool just yet.

90 Is he gonna start a civil war now?

91 In other news, les Assassins des Fauteuils Rollents [sic] got shut out.

92  Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson is a fan of Mr. and Mrs. Obama, as he revealed on this evening's broadcast of WWE Raw.  Shop/watch accordingly.

93

I am impressed by the news coverage the Canadians get. It seems more factual and less opinion driven than ours in the states. Or maybe tonight is an exception.

Posted by: Log Cabin at May 02, 2011 11:47 PM (h+Bqe)

It's only since the Conservatives have been in, especially at government owned CBC where they're not going to put up with Liberal propaganda at their expense.

Foaming at the mouth liberals have been embarrassing themselves for a while though, so that helps   ...finding themselves in a mostly Conservative country makes them think twice about biting the hands that feed their advertising budgets, heheh.

With most people, I think Harper has earned their respect...he's not extreme in any direction, so bashing him the way George Bush was bashed is bad for business.

94 Mark Steyn: "Liberal Party of Canada Buried at Sea after Dying in Firefight"

95 No Drew, Ken Dryden losing is not a shame.  He was a pompous gas bag for the Liberals.  Good riddance.

96 But did you see that the polls were correct about the conservatives being wiped out in Québec, mes amis? Les polls, she is never wrong and conservatives have lost again.

97 Welcome to the rest of Canada, Quebec!

Posted by: oleg at May 02, 2011 11:40 PM (/IuX+)

Yes, that!  Kudos, oleg.  _{Even if you are a filthy Scandi . . .}

98 Hm.  George Bush wasn't an extremist.  And yet, he was tarred and feathered.

99 Elizabeth May, Leader of The Green Party.

100 What's British Columbia like politically?  I know the three prairie provinces are much more conservative than Ontario and Quebec, but I really don't know much about BC.  I just assume that anything that close to Seattle has got to be liberalcratic by default, but that may just be my natural yankee cynicism. 

101 They did better then the Quebecy separatists.

102 I wasn't saying George Bush was an extremist...sort of reads that way...didn't mean it that way though

103 Grand total of Canadian Parliament? Unicameral?

104 Break out the Hidden Agenda!

105

I am impressed by the news coverage the Canadians get. It seems more factual and less opinion driven than ours in the states. Or maybe tonight is an exception.

Posted by: Log Cabin at May 02, 2011 11:47 PM (h+Bqe)

It's only since the Conservatives have been in, especially at government owned CBC where they're not going to put up with Liberal propaganda at their expense.

Foaming at the mouth liberals have been embarrassing themselves for a while though, so that helps   ...finding themselves in a mostly Conservative country makes them think twice about biting the hands that feed their advertising budgets, heheh.

With most people, I think Harper has earned their respect...he's not extreme in any direction, so bashing him the way George Bush was bashed is bad for business.

Posted by: CanaDave at May 02, 2011 11:53 PM (L0hDQ)

--It's only a couple weeks old, so I'm not sure if any Americans can get it, but the Sun News Network has been great.  It follows a similar format to Fox News, with talk shows in prime time.  Even there, though, I think the talk shows have more substance than O'Reilley and Hannity have.  Ezra Levant and Caldwell are my favorites.

106 94 Fat Rat Assassins?

107 Lizzie May wins a seat

108 Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at May 02, 2011 11:54 PM (qdBf5)

I like Mark Steyn, a lot. I don't like that post.

109 BC is 21 Conservative, 12 NDP, 2 Liberal and 1 Green Currently...pretty strong lean towards the Conservative side.

110 So Canada is going conservative and we are going socialist.....

But Mommy, I don't want to move to Canada, its cold up there.

111 A very obscure reference, FJ. Sorry. (But you can Google it, if you're interested.)

112 Grand total of Canadian Parliament? Unicameral?

There's a Senate as well. Unelected - Senators are appointed, as others die off or live past 75, by the government then in charge. Currently there's a tiny Conservative majority.

113 104 What's British Columbia like politically?  I know the three prairie provinces are much more conservative than Ontario and Quebec, but I really don't know much about BC.  I just assume that anything that close to Seattle has got to be liberalcratic by default, but that may just be my natural yankee cynicism. 

Posted by: MWR at May 02, 2011 11:55 PM (CA2NO)

--Kinda like a lot of states: conservative in the hinterland, liberal or up for grabs on the coast.  I bet the Tories found a way to win with immigrants this time and it paid off huge.

114 Interesting. Senator for life.

115 One very happy Canadian here.

Surprised, too. This election shifted dramatically in the past 72 hours. Going in, Conservatives were looking at another minority govt. Then the "centrist" Liberals - Canada's oldest and most "establishment" party - completely disintegrated almost overnight. As in, gone baby gone. Same with the separatist Bloc Quebecois. The hard-left NDP (New Democrats) swept up all of those votes.

The good news is that Canadians decided a minority coalition led by the left-wing NDP was just too damn dangerous. So the Conservatives won more support than they would have under "normal" conditions. But the NDP is so radical (eg, a Provincial arm of the party considered disallowing white men from running for office - I shit ye not) that enough people up here got "scared straight."

As the official Opposition, the NDP will be an unmitigated disaster. Take everything you know about "community organizers," then subtract the Ivy League degrees and you'll get a sense of what I'm talking about.

America dodged one here, too. With the NDP leading a coalition govt you could have said goodbye to all support overseas (ie, Afghanistan). The $80 billion contract for new F-35's would have been scrapped. Trade would come under scrutiny. The whole nine yards. Cuba north.

And while I'm gloating... you think media bias is bad in the States? Up here we have a national, state-run media organization (imagine NPR, but constantly on in almost every home). Listening to the election coverage, you would have been very surprised to even learn there was such a thing as the Conservative party. Almost a media blackout. Even tonight, with a historic win, all cameras are pointed at the damn, dirty commies.

Anyway. Time to get drunk. Nighty-night.

116 107 Grand total of Canadian Parliament? Unicameral?

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at May 02, 2011 11:56 PM (qIHlG)

--Go to elections2011.canoe.ca.  Lots of handy pull-downs.  308 total seats in Commons.

117 Thanks, logprof and Brian in BC!

118 Now changed to +22 net gain for Tories.

119 So... Iced Tea party?

120 Nice election map here

121 Oh, and btw... Ken Dryden earned his reputation as a hockey legend. But as a politician, he's something of an asshat. Nice guy, but still... don't shed a tear.

122 112 I like Mark Steyn, a lot. I don't like that post.

He was incredibly heavy-handed on the metaphors and I don't think he should have used the comparison. But I don't think he meant it in a bad way.

123 118 Interesting. Senator for life.
Totally, erah, different from erah, what we heah have.

124 123 So... Iced Tea party?

Posted by: Truman North at May 03, 2011 12:04 AM (8ay4x)

 

Excellent...maybe they'll lower our damn taxes now...

125 So, how much power does the Senate have in Canada?  Is it a debating club, do they have veto power, or can they actually initiate legislation?

126 There's a Senate as well. Unelected - Senators are appointed, as others die off or live past 75,

So same as in the states then.

127 Steyn isn't going to be as objective on Canadian stuff as he is elsewhere...especially about Liberals, creators of 'human rights commissions'...

128 Iogprof,

BC is split three ways: In the resource-based, rural regions it's pretty much a conservative/ndp split (rednecks vs. hippies/unemployed). Downtown Vancouver is a long-time Liberal stronghold, but that makes it unique in the entire west. The nicer suburban neighbourhoods surrounding the city are hard-core Conservative.

So pretty much what you'd expect anywhere, really.

129 It's the funniest election ever.  Poor little Libs and the Bloc.
It's great.

130 Sweet Ujjal Dosanjh defeated! Total self-obsessed tool who never found it problematic to change parties to stay in power.

131 Woohoo!

Now to reread the thread to grab questions to answer.

BTW, Log Cabin, the party that was blown away from the then-largest majority to just two seats was the Progressive Conservative Party. (Yes, it really had that oxymoronic name.) They were beholden massively to Quebec and were our Red Tory RINOs. In the aftermath of the defeat the truly conservative Reform Party grew and eventually regrouped with the more-conservative members of the former PCs to form today's Conservative Party of Canada [CPC]. They won a minority government that held for 3 years (the longest-lived minority government in hoser history) and then increased their seat count but still had a minority by 12 seats for the past 2 years. The Bloq and the Liberals [nicknamed the Grits] forced this election over nothing and were massively punished. They had figured that it would be another minority government but that the Governor-General (the Queen's representative) would ask the two or three opposition parties to form a government instead of the CPC (which would have been unprecedented in Canada or any other Western self-governing Dominion or at Westminster). So them getting burned by this is massively sweet.

Another irony is that as a minority government the CPC did alot of real compromising with the Opposition (unlike Obama) so they were getting a pretty liberal CPC policy out of it, so the lib-left blew that sweetheart situation too.

132 Congrats, BC -- and all Canadian M&Ms! -- on taking the first steps back to political sanity.  Hopefully we here in the US will do the same and vote Jugears McFuck out of office in 2012, along with all of his politihack sycophants.  I look forward to watching the NDP make epic fools of themselves on national televion up in the Great White North. 

133 My kind of system.

134 118 Interesting. Senator for life.
Them ice n******s got some good ideas up there!

135 Iced Tea party? Good one.

136 Truman North,

Senate is pretty much the equivalent of a cushy job at a Democratic law firm. How establishment boys get rewarded. No real power to speak of in practical matters.

137 So will Harper return to his roots now that he has a majority, or will he move only slightly right?

138 So, not much different from England, where Lords has been neutered.

139 Sorry to see Green party hippy chicks are just as disgusting to look at North of the border.

140 129 So, how much power does the Senate have in Canada?  Is it a debating club, do they have veto power, or can they actually initiate legislation?

Posted by: Truman North at May 03, 2011 12:06 AM (8ay4x)

--Closer to the House of Lords in the UK than the U.S. Senate.

141 Doh.

142 Oh my.

143 A Hitler video responding to the Canadian elections would be epic.

144 Green party hippy chick: "We proved Canadians want change in politics." By winning 1 seat?

145 147 Never happen.

146 Other is green?

147 The lovely and intelligent woman I'm sorta-kinda married to: "Harper... a 'Conservative' in Canada... what would that make him here?" Me: "Approximately Scott Brown."

148 Green Party was a sympathy vote. She wasn;' invited to the leaders' debate and Gaia was displeased. The people in her riding literally felt too embarrassed to not vote her in. She is now the leader of her party... and it's sole MP. Fricking hilarious.

149 Canadian Tories are wet Tories.  There are no Thatchers there.

150 The Senate has veto power, but it's rarely exercised. They generally make small changes to legislation, and mostly don't initiate it, though they have that power. A debating club is the best way of putting it, although Senators prefer the phrase "chamber of sober second thought".

151 A Hitler video responding to the Canadian elections would be epic. Or another "JesusLand" cartoon?

152 Posted by: andycanuck at May 03, 2011 12:07 AM (Y1DZt)

Thx for the insight.

153 Considering that the NDP is to the left of the Liberals, I am not sure this is all that great in the long run.

154 149 147 Never happen.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at May 03, 2011 12:12 AM (qIHlG)

--Which is why it would be epic.   The very idea of Hitler getting worked up over Canadian elections is hilarious.

155 "we can embrace what's possible, and even what's impossible"

um...

156 Do NDP and the Libs form a voting block?

157 I just can't handle listening to some of these politicians speak...shut up Elizabeth May...please...all the hippies voted for you, they must have been running VW mico-busses directly from the grow-ops to the polls!

158 Lizzie May elected.  Five years for me to prepare my ears for that screeching hag's appearance at the Leader's Debate in 2016.

159 It really is sad how little I know about Canadian politics, considering all y'all are our neighbors and long-time friends.  Thanks for answering our questions, Canadian Morons.  The fact that y'all are still sober enough to write grammatically correct sentences and cogent prose is a testament to Canadian blood alcohol tolerance. 

160 Do NDP and the Libs form a voting block? Yes, much of the time. Layton (NDP leader) liked to get the Liberals to move further left to get his support.

161 For the record (imo) the Conservatives are more like centrist Democrats in the States. We don't really have what you'd call a Republican party. The Liberals are more like left-wing Dems. The NDP is pretty much the Communist Party. Bloc Quebecois is the worst, agitating elements of the left-wing Dems with a separatist agenda (except, strangely, they expect the rest of Canada to continue sending $17 billion a year to them in transfer payments after they form their own nation).

162 A Hitler video responding to the Canadian elections would be epic.

Posted by: logprof at May 03, 2011 12:11 AM (a2hxi)

Or possibly a Taiwanese animation.

163

Jeez they got crushed.

I never knew western canada was so conservative. at least by canadian standards. I always knew about Alberta, but British Columbia?

That's awesome. Congrats to our canuck morons. It looks like Harper has a large majority and the libs and dems misjudged the results of their no confidence vote.

164 So who are the candidates to replace Ignatieff? Will the new leader likely be Bob Rae?

165 crosspatch,

The NDP is simply going to implode. It's like giving the keys to the family car to your son. And he's six.

166 even the cities go conservative in canada.

167 It looks like Harper has a large majority and the libs and dems misjudged the results of their no confidence vote.

This is just like when Amidala moved for a vote of no-confidence in Chancellor Valorum.

168 Right now Canada has the most conservative leadership in the G8 I suspect. 

169

I seem to remember watching a tv show or movie where the line ,"Sir Quebec's got the bomb" was a laugh line. I can't remember what it was from for the life of my but I remember laughing my ass off.

I guess the Q bloc was actually a formidable force at one point

170 MWR...thanks...some of us alternate our beverage of choice with Hoppes 9 shots to mellow it out.

171 The NDP is simply going to implode. It's like giving the keys to the family car to your son. And he's six.
Posted by: BC at May 03, 2011 12:19 AM (Tb8bu)

and drunk

this should be fun

172 Although the Senate has not done anything in decades, it actually can block legislation from the House.  It cannot, like the US Senate and UK HoL, initiate money bills.

If you want a smart guy in your cabinet without running him in an election, appoint him to the Senate, since Senators can serve in cabinet.

The Senate can be interesting after elections where the HoC changes hands, since the Senate majority will reflect the prior party for at least the next year or two. 

173 I forget how the details work. Doesn't the winner have to go to England and prostrate themselves before the queen of england or something like that before they take control of the government?

174 Good night all, and a pat on the back to all M&M's in Canada!

(I'm actually in Dallas at the moment, returning to the 'Peg next week.)

175 Heh. The CBC says Brosseau, the woman who's never been near her riding, won.

Man, they just wanted the Libs and BQ out.

176 BC, you're totally correct...the NDP is going to be a complete gong show in the HOC...I still think Layton looks like the guy on late night TV who sells the "Learn Excel" DVD's (and Stalin...but that's a gimmie).

177 168 So who are the candidates to replace Ignatieff? Will the new leader likely be Bob Rae?

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at May 03, 2011 12:19 AM (qdBf5)

 

My guess would be Justin Trudeau...he's the son of the Liberal's demigod Pierre Trudeau who dragged us so far left, playing footsie with the NDP.  He's going to be a problem, just watch...they'll be like your libs are over Obama.

178 O Canada!  I'm so happy to see what's going on up north.  Seems like it was only a few months ago that we kicked the lib's tails here, yet we can't seem to act like we know how to win.

SDA is hoppin' tonight!

179 153 Canadian Tories are wet Tories.  There are no Thatchers there.

Posted by: Truman North at May 03, 2011 12:13 AM (8ay4x)

True, but Harper always stands up for Israel and does other classy things that always make me wish our President had some class. Sigh..

180

and drunk

this should be fun

Posted by: That guy next door that keeps to himself & doesn't say much

You gave him the beer, didn't you?

181

"What's a massage parlour?"

Paraphrasing a quote atttibuted to the Leader of the Official Opposition, when found on a bed, naked, by Toronto police as an Asian massage "therapist" is seen tossing wet Kleenex' into a garbage pail. 

 

Jack! Layton...think of him as Al Gore without the third chakra 

182

I seem to remember watching a tv show or movie where the line ,"Sir Quebec's got the bomb" was a laugh line. I can't remember what it was from for the life of my but I remember laughing my ass off.

I guess the Q bloc was actually a formidable force at one point

Posted by: Ben at May 03, 2011 12:22 AM (DKV43)

 

Before all the separatist shit happened in the 70's, Montreal was Canada's business captial.  Everything left after that, then Toronto became the business captial.  These days, I think Calgary is vying for that role.

183 81 168 

My guess would be Justin Trudeau...he's the son of the Liberal's demigod Pierre Trudeau who dragged us so far left, playing footsie with the NDP.  He's going to be a problem, just watch...they'll be like your libs are over Obama.

The CBC showed him earlier and he looked incredibly young. Is he a lot like his father, or are they just wish-casting?

184 177 I forget how the details work. Doesn't the winner have to go to England and prostrate themselves before the queen of england or something like that before they take control of the government?

Posted by: Ben at May 03, 2011 12:24 AM (DKV43)

I think it's enough to prostrate themselves before the Governor General, the queen's representative in Ottawa.

185 Ben, the Queen's representative the Governor General basically "rubber stamps" the election results...more or less.

186 Clearly these flag waving patriotic Canadians are just biased and cannot think for themselves. It's just disgusting to see.... Wait, these are the liberals?!?! Clearly these flag waving patriotic Canadians love their country and are so happy to see the Conservatives lose seats tonight, even if they won a majority government. It's yet another vote for change, and I am so happy to see it.

187

time to hit the sack.

You guys should overthrow your Parliamentary Democracy and install the three Staal brothers as a Triumverate.

You would be set on defense, offense, and defensive-offense.

188 It's hard to know how conservative Harper will really be. Up till now he was hostage to the leftists and he played it coy. Now he pretty much can do whatever he pleases with this majority. I believe he used to be a true small gov conservative, but he's been in Ottawa for so long already.

189

Ben, the Queen's representative the Governor General basically "rubber stamps" the election results...more or less.

I know, I was just giving you guys a hard time. I like Canada. Thanks for hockey and Sidney Crosby.

190 I seem to remember watching a tv show or movie where the line ,"Sir Quebec's got the bomb" was a laugh line. I can't remember what it was from for the life of my but I remember laughing my ass off. It was the Simpsons. It's the episode where Homer changes his name to Max Power, and they attend a lefty fundraiser. Marge was dancing with Clinton at the time.

191

It was the Simpsons. It's the episode where Homer changes his name to Max Power, and they attend a lefty fundraiser. Marge was dancing with Clinton at the time.

Thank you good sir. Now I can sleep peacefully.

192 Ben, the Queen's representative the Governor General basically "rubber stamps" the election results...more or less. I know, I was just giving you guys a hard time. I like Canada. Thanks for hockey and Sidney Crosby. Feel free to keep Celine!

193

The CBC showed him earlier and he looked incredibly young. Is he a lot like his father, or are they just wish-casting?

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at May 03, 2011 12:29 AM (qdBf5)

http://tinyurl.com/3tf7fnu

194

@191

When it comes to conservatism, those are nice, but a franchise tender beats all.  Reagan had a wicked glove hand.

195 Feel free to keep Celine!

Tell you what: You keep me supplied with poutine and I wont send her back.

196

The CBC showed him earlier and he looked incredibly young. Is he a lot like his father, or are they just wish-casting?

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at May 03, 2011 12:29 AM (qdBf5)

 

It's the name, Trudeau...doesn't matter what he's like...they want to re-live their glory days.  It's starting to fade though (the name brand), so I imagine they might get desperate and run him.

Anyway, this is just guessing but I knew the first minute I saw Obama and the fawning way the media pukes talked about him that he was going to be trouble.

197 197 http://tinyurl.com/3tf7fnu

I can see why they like him.

198

This was the first campaign in a dog's age that didn't feature some Tory candidate saying something incredibly stupid...

Kudos to the campaign managers for keeping a tight lid on the messaging.  Some call it dictatorial.  I call it winning, duh.

199

I realize the Tories are what we consider rinos here in the US. But I have heard that Canada is actually more business friendly than Obamamerica. I believe they have a lower corporate tax rate than us. I am damn sure that the ruling party up there is not brazenly destroying the national currency like Obama is. I bet the Canucks are drilling for oil, too.

I'm a conservative and I like my politicians right-wing, but I'll take rinos over commies any day of the week.

200 Just like they did with the Toronto mayoral election.
Rob Ford is a Chris Christie-like fiscal conservative. He won hugely getting both the 25% or so of regular voting population that votes CPC and the ethnic vote that are anti-crime and didn't care for his opponent, the former-provincial-Liberal ex-cabinet minister who was an elitist homosexual. (Who was the MSM's darling, of course, and who spent the election wishcasting that the uncouth Ford would lose. They tried smearing him with all sorts of attacks over his obesity, claims of wife-beating etc.)

It looks like the Conservatives lost in a lot of places while still gaining seats. Is the country stratified like the US now with one party completely dominating certain areas?
No, Rocks, so you don't have to worry about that as the CPC seat gain was evenly-spread everywhere except Quebec, including big gains in liberal Toronto and Vancouver.

I still can't get over that. Who the fuck rides a bicycle to a massage parlor?
A leftist city councillor in downtown Toronto so, you know, an asshole.

Seriously, how shitty is prime-time TV when the Canadian election coverage on C-Span is the most interesting thing on?
Tell me about it, Log Cabin. The election cancelled Monday Night Curling tonight!

Do they have high speed rail yet?
Actually, our Liberals were going to push for a high-speed rail line from Quebec City (at the mouth of the St Lawrence) to Windsor (Detroit); undoubtedly with corrupt Quebec firms mysteriously winning the contracts and undoubtedly making kickbacks to the federal and Quebec Liberals.

Peter what's his face, the guy who has anchored the CBC news forever,
Peter Kent, the Gulf War's "Scud Stud" Arthur Kent's brother.

now quebec goes all out socialist to demand even more money.
But with virtually no seats in the Government, so they won't be able to pull their usual "give us what we want or we leave" blackmail.

Is he gonna start a civil war now?
Assuming you're discussing Quebec, the answer is 'no' because while the Dippers are Reds and they were promising special treatment for Quebec (at least when they were talking in French and that the MFM wasn't discussing after translating to English) they are still a federalist party and not a separatist one. Besides which, the Rest of Canada [ROC] wouldn't fight to keep them from separating--nowadays we'd boot them out.

What's British Columbia like politically?
Leftist in and around Vancouver but conservative in the interior. It's sort of like California [British California!] in that, but our first-past-the-post riding system and the like means that the conservative hinterland isn't flooded out by the townies' votes as L.A. screws CA's red districts.

Grand total of Canadian Parliament? Unicameral?
Bicameral with a 106-seat appointed Senate with next to no real powers. (I know alot of GOPers want the elected Senate amendment tossed, but in Canada with so many Grit and Red Tory governments appointing senators for life or up to age 75... now reduced to IIRC 12 years but only for new appointees... they were massively corrupt and useless. Maybe term limits and having real power as the U.S. Senate does would work out better with appointees in the States, but here conservatives want the Senate Triple-E elected; effective; and equal. [Equal because the appointees could come from anywhere and in any number so Quebec and the low-population Atlantic Provinces were massively overrepresented; Alberta with a growing population and oil and resource dollars had very few appointees.]

And a House of Commons that makes all the legislation is around 308 seats but more seats are supposed to be coming when Western and Ontario population growth is taken into account in drawing up new ridings. (Your guys are doing this in Wisconsin if I'm not mistaken, as an American example; and nationally too I think which is why it was especially important to take control of the House of Reps too?)

Now back to the rest of the thread.

201 Log Cabin, the banking system is definitely better. something about not forcing banks to give loans to people with no assets. apparently, that's not a good business plan.

202

I'm a conservative and I like my politicians right-wing, but I'll take rinos over commies any day of the week.

Posted by: Log Cabin at May 03, 2011 12:40 AM (h+Bqe)

Time will tell, having a majority is a whole different ball game.  For my part, I hope he uses it to roll back all the social shit to the year 1881 or so

203

Weird times, my friends.  The NDP the official opposition?  How terrifying is that?  I worry that if Harper doesn't kick ass over the next few years, we will be heading for an NDP government.  Man!

And Log Cabin 1240 - oh yeah we're drilling and mining oil.  My Canadian oil stocks are doing great, especially today!!!

204 How long until Harper speaks? Been a fan of his since '05. He was also one of the world leaders whose joint-pressers I wanted to watch when Bush 43 was president.

205 Kind of amusing how pouty the liberals/NDP are being right now. Kind of like when Dems lose here. Lots of whining and disbelief.

206

The way I see it, until you get rid of jug-ears, you're our Canada!!!

Isn't it horrible?

207 Layton reminds me of a banty rooster.

208 Don't feel too bad for Ken Dryden.  He's a statist asshole, and not nearly as clever as he thinks he is.  I remember a debate I watched a few years ago between Dryden and Conservative Rona Ambrose about national daycare (the Liberals have been pushing this for decades now).

She was selling a $1K/kid/year tax credit for parents to use as they chose- day care, day homes, paying a family member, offset cost of stay-at-home-parent, whatever they wanted.  The Liberals wanted the Obamacare version of national daycare, where Canadians would shuffle their progeny off to government warehouse for even more time so both parents could work and pay more taxes.  They've tried it in Quebec (natch) and it's been a giant boondoggle money pit.

The conservative Ambrose was extolling the virtues of choice (I realize that more government cash isn't really conservative, but whatevs, this is Canada and we expect to be bribed with sweet government loot) and Dryden actually argued that this tax credit was not a good idea, because, I quote, "This doesn't encourage desired behaviors".

Well, that quote is from memory actually, and I'm trending towards hammered, but I've despised that Dryden asshole ever since, even though his hockey career should have cemented his national hero status.

Anyways, WOOOOOOOO!  <flashes boobs at concerned husband>

209 Huge, huge night for us Canadian conservatives.  Harper has had to shift centre-left to maintain his minority gov't so will be great for him to have the majority.  Lefties will be terrified of his "hidden agenda" and the idiotic Canadian media are shitting their pants. 

The other significant event is that the Bloq Quebecois (separatists) are finished.  While I would never vote for the NDP, at least they don't have an active interest in splitting up the country like the Bloq.  Good riddance to those asshats.

I'm getting drunk on Crown Royal to celebrate

210 207

Weird times, my friends.  The NDP the official opposition?  How terrifying is that?  I worry that if Harper doesn't kick ass over the next few years, we will be heading for an NDP government.  Man!

Posted by: Erik Larsen at May 03, 2011 12:44 AM (GHvcJ)

But they will have less influence in the next five years then they did the last couple, when Harper had to make his policy with them in mind because of his minority position. no?

211

The single mother who lives in Gatineau, Que., and works in Ottawa as an assistant manager of a OliverÂ’s pub at Carleton University in Ottawa is a classic parachute candidate.

Any relation to Christine O'Donnell?

212 Also, my livelihood, like everyone I know in Alberta, depends on sweet sweet hydrocarbons, and we can all dig in and invest knowing there won't be any NEP style carbon tax horseshit in the next half-decade...

213 Adrian, excellent point.  I agree - BUT - the press used to just bounce between Harper/Conservatives and Ignatieff/Liberals for comments and policies, and just pat the NDP on the head every once in a while for balance.  But now we're gonna hear a lot more from Layton/NDP, and that makes me puke a bit in my mouth.  Let alone we now have our first "Green Party" member of parliament.  Ouch!

214

The other significant event is that the Bloq Quebecois (separatists) are finished. While I would never vote for the NDP, at least they don't have an active interest in splitting up the country like the Bloq. Good riddance to those asshats.

I'm getting drunk on Crown Royal to celebrate

Congrats, Canada!

Please tell my that Canada makes better whisky than Crown Royal though.  I was once suckered in by the fancy bottle.  Once.

Also, you don't know how much it sucks that we can no longer make stupid jokes about Canadian currency being less valueable.

215 Did you guys send this Ignatieff fellow up here from Harvard on a snipe hunt or something? I think you can take him back now. We're done with him.

216 Ah ha!  I see a few fellow SDA over hear gloating!

"I'm getting drunk on Crown Royal to celebrate"

We all are.

217 hear -- here.. blame the Crown Royal..

218 harper's about to speak

219

Didn't vote.

Don't care.

I live in a country that has "Human Rights Commissions." They FOREVER lost me there.  I want this country to burn!!  We need a cleansing fire.

When I make a new life for myself in South Korea, I'll always pay tribute to those Canadians and Americans that helped South Korea be free.

Canada had freedom and pissed it away. Fuck them.

I'm giving up American citizenship in a couple of weeks. I'm drinkng heavily now. To me, that's a horrible thing. But Canadian citizenship, giving that up, I'll celebrate like a Palestinian on 9/11...

The only reason I won't be turning around and giving Canada a HUGE fuck you is because I'll want to be at my parent's funeral. Aside from that, I want all non-Alberta Canada to burn.

220 Considering that the NDP is to the left of the Liberals, I am not sure this is all that great in the long run.
Here's what I wrote about that at Kate's SDA blog, crosspatch.

...alot of the Dippers' QC seats, face it, have idiots in them with no real connection to their constituents. Those Quebeckers won't be voting NDP again (like Ontarians won't be fooled by the provincial NDP again). At the same time the QC wing of the NDP will be pretty strong and Jack in placating them will piss off his anglophone blue collar voters in the ROC. So I can see them losing half their seats to the Grits four years from now (with or without a Bloc rebirth) and not gaining another 40 seats to become the new government. They'll also have to defend their ludicrous leftist policies for the next four years; something they've never had to do ever in the past as the fourth party. [Disband the Canadian Forces? Forced nationalization of large businesses? The government owning every drop of water in the country, even rain water? etc.]

And the CPC not being beholden to Quebec in any way, shape or form means that liberal-leftist Quebec won't be overly-influencing policy the way they did in the Progressive Conservative governments' days.

Do NDP and the Libs form a voting block?
It doesn't matter with the CPC majority, but the Libs are probably pretty pissed at the Dippers over the wipeout so they probably won't cooperate. There is one possibility, the new leader of the Libs will undoubtedly be Bob Rae who used to be an NDP commie who fluked off an election win to become Premier of Ontario in the early '90s. (Where he and the Dippers completely wiped out the economy affecting it to this day.) He may try to merge the two parties (although he'd have no leverage to do so) into one liberal-leftist party similarly to the way the CPC was formed but there are alot of blue Liberals who would switch to the CPC if they tried to merge with the NDP. (Christian blue collar types; those who stupidly think the Liberals are still the 19th Century Liberals they started out as etc.) BTW, Justin Trudeau lost his seat too I'm pretty sure.

Right now Canada has the most conservative leadership in the G8 I suspect.
And Israel's biggest supporters.

"Sir, Quebec's got the bomb" was a laugh line.
Luckily, Ontario and New Brunswick have nuclear power while Quebec has (alot of) hydro.

I forget how the details work. Doesn't the winner have to go to England and prostrate themselves before the queen of England or something like that before they take control of the government?
No, the Governor-General asks the leader of the winning party to form a government. What you might be thinking about is that up until something like 20 years ago Canada used to have to send all its legislation once a year to the UK where the UK House of Commons rubber-stamped it. It was so little of a formality since 1924 that UK MPs usually wouldn't show or only backbenchers would show up and give speeches about unrelated UK legislation items.

Man, they just wanted the Libs and BQ out.
Yes, See my comment at top, above.

Hoser jokes: So will Gerard Kennedy be using a food bank now? And it looks like Jack and Olivia will be moving to Stornoway but why not? They're used to living in subsidized housing.

221 Vive Jay Sherman!  Vive Quebec!

222 The conservatives are always expected to do all the pandering. *sigh*

223 "Hockey Legend Ken Dryden, who went into Liberal Party politics after his Hall of Fame career, apparently lost. That's a shame." I helped contribute to that

224 Amazing how entire CBC team agrees Harper's speech has to be about liberals like them and how he plans to suck up to them. I think they'd like him to appologize to them for having the temerity to win.

It's as if the whole voting thing never actually happened.

225 227 "Hockey Legend Ken Dryden, who went into Liberal Party politics after his Hall of Fame career, apparently lost. That's a shame."

I helped contribute to that

Posted by: Johnny at May 03, 2011 01:10 AM (FYwGn)

Cheers!

226 @223 Canadian Infidel

Good luck.  Good bye. And good riddance.

I think we'll survive without you.

mhb23re
at gmail d0t calm

227

PS - if you guys don't have the time and money to get to France, go to Montreal - an awesome city with beautiful girls (and guys I suppose too).  Different architecture, different history, good times!

228 the reason i'm not in politics (one among many): if i were harper right now, i'd roll out a barrel of oil and drown a pelican in it.

229 232, I'm with you.  I'd fill all my used tires with diesel and brighten up the neighborhood.

230 228 Amazing how entire CBC team agrees Harper's speech has to be about liberals like them and how he plans to suck up to them. I think they'd like him to appologize to them for having the temerity to win.

It's as if the whole voting thing never actually happened.

Posted by: DrewM. at May 03, 2011 01:12 AM (dXPup)

Heh, the CBC is like Pravda... I listen to them every day, which makes me about 1/3 the local radio audience.  You have to read between the lines to figure out what the truth is.  Plus, I'll totally enjoy my commute tomorrow, when their Political Panel ("The whole spectrum!  Commie to Far Left") gets to choke on their own tongues explaining how this really was a giant victory for Team Lefty.

For lo, though the NDP has tripled in size, it really doesn't matter for practical purposes as the Conservatives now run the show.

231 Harper seems more animated each time I see him.

232 Something else that just struck me about the NDP in Quebec not having a chance to win the election four or so years from now is that for the next four or so years Quebeckers are going to be kicking themselves for not backing the strong horse winner and, so, losing out on alot of government pork. That's going to sting very badly and they're going to want to get back onto the gravy train even if its flow is radically reduced by the new CPC majority.

BTW, Rob Ford won the Toronto mayoralty by campaigning against the Gravy Train. The TEA Partiers should push that 'narrative' alot from municipal, to state to federal races.

233 at least his translator sounds normal, usually they give him a flamboyantly gay guy.

234

Posted by: mhb at May 03, 2011 01:13 AM (ptYfv)

Yeah you will survive without me.

Don't care. Enjoy the increaingly high taxes. Don't let your children drive their bikes on the wrong side of the street (THERE'S FUCKING DRAWINGS ON THE ROAD TELLING THE KIDS WHAT SIDE OF THE ROAD TO RIDE ON!!)

I hate and loathe the DOOM thread but it just makes me happy thinking Canada and all of the anti-Americans up there will burn. I hope it's horrible.

For me, the worst part is Remembrance Day. I always wonder if Human Rights Commissions are what they gave their lives for.

In my mind, no.

But I'll always give thanks for them in Korea. I hope Canada burns. FUCK you.

235 Peter what's his face, the guy who has anchored the CBC news forever,
Peter Kent, the Gulf War's "Scud Stud" Arthur Kent's brother.

Not Peter Mansbridge?

236 notice the conservative audience is the ONLY one out of all the speeches that didn't jeer and boo when the opposing party leaders were mentioned. yeah, we're totally the party of hate.

237

Harper and Yo-Yo Ma

http://tinyurl.com/ybgtxz5

238 Harper being classy in showing respect for the other sides. Imagine Obama trying that...

239 If we get rid of the HRCs, Canadian Infidel, will we still need to go fuck ourselves or will you cut us some slack?

240 Adrian - I noticed that too!   It's hard being classy all the time - but we have no choice.  Those other guys can be tools and miscreants - but I'm just glad I'm not like them.

241 That's one of the things I've always liked about Harper, is that he seems to be unapologetic about Canada. Wish I could say the same about Obama and the U.S.

242 Black Mamba, I've been spending more and more time here, it's such a cool site, and the comments make me howl.  Good to see you again! 

243 Harper's son has Bieber hair? Heart-ache.

244

But I'll always give thanks for them in Korea. I hope Canada burns. FUCK you.

Posted by: Canadian Infidel at May 03, 2011 01:23 AM (GKQDR)

Whoah, friend.  We totally have problems here, and we are a little ennervated culturally at the moment, but that's a bit harsh   I don't really want to burn, and i really don't want to move to Korea.  We can fix a bunch of this.  Maybe.  Best of luck in your future endeavors.

245 Yes, I love lurking here and stealing their links.  If it weren't for SDA I might aspire to weasel my way into moronness, but even I have only so much time to waste online.

246

BlMa, the sock-puppeteers here are teh awesome!

247 Not Peter Mansbridge?
He's the CBC anchor. Peter Kent was a Global TV news anchor (that I thought was the reference) who's Arthur Kent's brother. I assumed, despite the CBC reference, that Peter Kent was being referenced as he had won his seat for the second time.

248 ^{247 Harper's son has Bieber hair? Heart-ache.
Posted by: Adrian}

Bieber is Canadian.

249 And they let you say "fuck"!  Kate doesn't let us say "fuck".

250 249 Yes, I love lurking here and stealing their links.  If it weren't for SDA I might aspire to weasel my way into moronness, but even I have only so much time to waste online.

I know you're not talking to me but that's interesting, because I've been reading SDA for awhile now and it reminds me of here.

251 Harper's son has Bieber hair? Heartache.
The five years or so ago of Harper's first minority government there was a photo op of him and his wife dropping their son off at his new Ottawa-area school. Rather than embarrassing his young son by kissing good-bye, Harper shook his hand instead. The MFM went ape, psychoanalyzing him (as was often done to Bush 43) and declaring him a borderline sociopath who cold-heartedly couldn't show affection for his son.

252
I "understand" parliamentary government, but I don't really "get" it. Declare no confidence in the government --  dissolve it -- call elections whenever you want -- form coalitions -- have both a president and a prime minister.

But anyway, I know I'm glad the conservatives won.

253 243 If we get rid of the HRCs, Canadian Infidel, will we still need to go fuck ourselves or will you cut us some slack?

Posted by: Black Mamba at May 03, 2011 01:27 AM (tSxym)

Eliminate all redistribution of wealth, pay only for a strong military, roads and that needed for economic infrastucture.

Deny climate change, eliminate all climate change funding, realise as a country that Islam is a religjion of hate, mock the pedophile Mohammed for marrying a 6 year old and fucking a 9 year old and maybe we'll talk.

I loathe the fact that I'm going to be giving up American citizenship in about 2 weeks. I'm going to be sad and horribly pissed off when I do that simply because I fear a future broke US government. But Canadian citizenship - the Liberals raised a great  'citizen of the world.' I'll give that in moment seeing what the country is like now.

254 Yeah, that was funny andycanuck - Harper said afterwards that he didn't want to embarrass his son.  He's an awesome guy, and I mean, both!

255 You should join us up in the expletive-free north, Miss 80s.  Bear in mind that, elections aside, we don't really care about Canadian politics either.

256 Meh, only Canadians left here - but you Americans would love Laureen Harper, the Prime Minister's wife.  She is real, genuine, and teh awesome.

257 Black Mamba, how did the Maritimes and NF vote?  I'm too lazy to check

258 And, can we all be officially sick about the Green Party?  With their one member?  ((

259 NDP 31, Lib. 11, PC 10.

260 As a long time conservative, I voted for Mulroney, I am saddened tonight by the Conservative's election tonight. Mr Harper is just too far to the right, and does not represent the common sense conservative values of Canadians.

I do hope that Mr Harper reaches out to members of the minority party by enacting the NDP's common sense proposals.

261 Well, that's Nova Scotia.  I'm too lazy to look up the other ones, but they'll all be sucky lefty too.

262

Tonight we Redneckians have declared victory over the pussies who call themselves something else....ahem.

I raise a toast of destilled schnaps destilled in my private oak casks, and make my hands look like pistolas and shoot pretend bullets into the sky!

Now we dance, bitches, to the Conservative tune...hehe....secret agenda?  No!  We just like to dance, okay?

I am drunk, yes.

 

Go Canada Go!(Works great at Hockey games too!)

 

 

263 259 You should join us up in the expletive-free north, Miss 80s.  Bear in mind that, elections aside, we don't really care about Canadian politics either.

So what are the primary topics on SDA when there isn't an election? I also started thinking of my Canadian friends and a number of them really aren't as political as people down here in Texas. We are incredibly opinionated down here.

264 Prairie Dog: another great hockey chant:
Da, da, Canada; nyet, nyet, socialist

[Assuming your old enough and sober enough to remember 1972.]

265 Assuming you're old enough...
and I haven't been drinking!

266

Nyet Nyet Soviet!!!!

Nyet Nyet Soviet!!!

267 264 As a long time conservative, I voted for Mulroney, I am saddened tonight by the Conservative's election tonight. Mr Harper is just too far to the right, and does not represent the common sense conservative values of Canadians.

I do hope that Mr Harper reaches out to members of the minority party by enacting the NDP's common sense proposals.

Posted by: Concerned Canadian Christian Conservative at May 03, 2011 01:44 AM (eKuOw)

Bravo!  Delightful.  Claiming to have voted for Kim Campbell, however, would have cemented your Progressive Conservative bonafides beyond doubt, however.

268 @245 "That's one of the things I've always liked about Harper, is that he seems to be unapologetic about Canada. Wish I could say the same about Obama and the U.S." Me too when I see Harper. There is a cpc ad where he uses these lines about Canada: "Honorable in our dealings, faithful to our commitments, loyal to our friends, by turns, a courageous warrior, and a compassionate neighbor." I wish an Obama speech could be that good.

269 Fixed that for ya my friend...haha!

270 "So what are the primary topics on SDA when there isn't an election?"

Same as here.  Not much difference other than the number of comments.
I prefer SDA though, my attention span is short and can't handle reading though so many comments.

271 ChrisinMB - don't tell anyone - but the comments are more funny here

272

Erik, I take it all back, New Brunswick went heavily Tory, and I think they gained in Newfoundlandandlabrador, although, being an idiot, I can't find it in a form that's colourful enough and doesn't require reading.

Miss '80s, we pretty much just bitch about Obama, and giant windmills.  There is a heavy Scandi presence, as you can tell.

273 Well, my hats off to you, Canadians! I hope the Tories make some actual changes, not just slow the slide to socialism. Harper has made some noise about further lowering of corporate tax rates and less subsidies to the provinces, but we'll see how that goes. It's got to be better than the quasi Marxist horror show in the White House right now.

274

Black Mamba, it's 3 AM in Halifax - but for Americans listening, that's another great Canadian city!   Totally beautiful.

And try visiting Newfoundland and Labrador - you might need a translator - here are some phrases in English, but with a Newfie accent

http://tinyurl.com/ydzo8oq

275 Another thing that's interesting to me is that, even though both the BBC and the CBC are leftists, they both provided better coverage for the UK and Canadian elections, respectively. Great graphics, pretty good at reporting actual results, and it was clear when they were injecting opinion.

Still don't quite understand the rule about election coverage, though. Is that basic idea that they're not allowed to report until all the polls are closed and receive punishment if they break the rule?

276 I know, I have to be up in about 15 minutes (I love how even the spam can't be bothered with this little Canadian thread here on Ace :-)

277

Still don't quite understand the rule about election coverage, though. Is that basic idea that they're not allowed to report until all the polls are closed and receive punishment if they break the rule?

Yup.  We get our info from a British site.

278

Miss'80sBaby - yeah, they are not allowed to report, because it may skew the results of the election.  but punishment?  ha ha, you're kidding right?  the CBC are the more far left version of NPR - therefore they are exempt from punishment, because they are on the side of the angels

279 Yes, congratulations to you all for a conservative victory! I'll be interested to see how Harper governs now that his hands are untied, but that's for later.

280 "ChrisinMB - don't tell anyone - but the comments are more funny here"

yeah, agreed.  This is my second home even though I very rarely speak up here.

"Is that basic idea that they're not allowed to report until all the polls are closed and receive punishment if they break the rule?"

Yeah, and it's amusing that the CBC broke the rules this time!

281 Erik!  The neutrality of the CBC is beyond question! 

282 I think Colby Cosh had hit the 160-seat number on the head.

Harper's center-right, which is about as far right as Canada's been prepared to go since, say, WWII.   He's more consistent and principled than, say, Cameron over in the UK, who might have a decent streak of fiscal conservatism but is a hardcore warmist, not too inclined to dismantle the statist command-economy structures New Labour spent a decade erecting, and a little too fond of the Big Europe/global governance thing in general.

All politics may be local, but the boffins at the Australian Labor party can see their future in the Canadian results; the 'new' purer leftists strip the enviroloons and the academics and the other hardcore left-fascists from the 'old' labor-left party, while the center-right party picks up big chunks of the working class in reaction.

Eat your greens, but for God's sake don't vote for the buggers.

283 282 Miss'80sBaby - yeah, they are not allowed to report, because it may skew the results of the election.  but punishment?  ha ha, you're kidding right?  the CBC are the more far left version of NPR - therefore they are exempt from punishment, because they are on the side of the angels

Speaking of the CBC, I'm loving how they're trying to paint Iggy as having run a pretty good campaign. From what I saw (which obviously wasn't as much as you all), his campaign managers allowed him to botch the entire thing.

As for punishment, I saw that Twitter was affected and some reports were blocked, but I wasn't sure whether anyone outside of the CBC actually got punished. Empty threats for the other outlets?

284 Harper is a no BS kind of guy.  I golfed with his mother-in-law, who had nothing but great things to say about him (that says a lot).   She told me so many anecdotes about him and his wife - I'll vote for them after I'm dead (do you hear me, my children??)

285 and it was clear when they were injecting opinion.
Their lips were moving?

286 And, I think that Ujjal Dosanjh, a Liberal who lost tonight, is a great guy and a great Canadian 

287

Posted by: Erik Larsen at May 03, 2011 02:18 AM (GHvcJ)

I'm happy he won too.

We still need that cleansing fire though and when DOOM comes.....

288 http://www2.macleans.ca/category/blog-central/canada-blog/colby-cosh/

I'm sure Steyn will be a good read tomorrow or thereabouts as well.

289

Miss80'sBaby - I think that Ignatieff is bright and likely personable in private.  He reminds me of the Adlai Stephenson anecdote.  A woman came up to Stephenson, and said "Any intelligent person would vote for you".  His response, "Well, the problem madam, is that I need a majority". 

Not that I'm an Ignatieff supporter - far from it - but politics and charisma are intertwined - and Iggy has no charisma!!

290 heh, lots of SDA-ers here

291 I really wish leftists would apply all those concerns for unchecked power they have for police and military and try applying it to the rest of government.  Decades of public school conditioning guarantees few ever will.  I see leftists relationship with statism like Siegfried and Roy relationship with those tigers.  "No look we feed them and are nice to them they would never hurt us, they are tamed and loyal and would only protect us they aren't wild animals..blah blah (wait a few years) blah blah blah... MUNCH!"

To me America and Canada are worth trying to save but at this point I think plans for how to rebuild are more relevant.
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Speaking of Senators, b4 the 17th amendment American Senators were chosen by the State governors.  Thus:

*States had the Senate to protect them
*House was locally elected people 1 rep for every 10k people (until 1911)
*White house with limited executive power was the collective filtered through the electoral college.
*no such thing as Damn Czars!

With 10k people congressmen really could know and serve their people and vice versa.  (hard to imagine today)   Just imagine, a division of powers among the the people and the government.   What a glorious constitution we were handed.  No one even remembers the "super important" crisis or why we sold it off peace by peace over the years just like Esau and his Damn pottage.  America was destined for crash when in the 60's those who respect the Constitution lost total control of education and the media/culture to those outright hostile to it.   The airplane is broken all that's left now is the rest of the fall and the landing.

292

Come to think of it, have we seen The Count's Birth Certificate? (The running joke, for any morons who might concievably be reading, is that Ignatief is more American than anything else). And yes, he really is a count.

I doubt he's a great guy; arrogant, power hungry, believes in nothing, obviously.  At least Layton's probably a real commie.

293 I heard that Quebec had a big change and that the green party lost all their seats.

I wasn't around but did you guys see the prez's remarks at the WH correspondent's dinner and Seth meyer's remarks.  Wow did seth hammer donald trump and did the prez zing michelle bachman.

The fact that they are the left's top candidates makes me leary of both of them.

link

link

294 Hey BlMa, time for you to get up! 

295 And, for those of you late to the Canadian party, I've had a huge crush on BlMa forever, and she tolerates me, even though I'm a dirty Scandi.     :-0

296 True, that. 

297 The Scandi thing and the bedtime thing.

298 NN, BlMa!  See you in my dreams!  xoxoxox  

299

But,. have any Americans watched Harper on the piano?

http://tinyurl.com/ybgtxz5

300 It's been a good twenty-four hours for Western secular democracy.

301 303 But,. have any Americans watched Harper on the piano? http://tinyurl.com/ybgtxz5

Saw that while looking for speeches surrounding the contempt of parliament charges and was surprised. I remembered he had a reputation for being rather dry, so seeing how animated he was during that performance surprised me.* Still, I would rather have a boring but knowledgeable economist who loves his country than someone like Obama who is all style but no substance. 

_{*He really isn't so "dull" as he appears.}

302

Night Erik :-) (I would do a smiley face but I don't know how to make the wavy line.)

You know, it occurs to me that if Kate does close down comments, as she periodically threatens to do, Ace and co. might wind up with a influx of Canadians who'll have to learn how to be funny before he finds an excuse to ban us for being so, well, Canadian. Andycanuck will probably avoid eye-contact and claim he never really knew us all that well.

303 I'm out. Congratulations to all the Canadian conservatives who worked hard to make this happen. Wishing you all the very best.

304

Miss80'sbaby - watch a nice clip of Harper here

http://tinyurl.com/6ylbj7

305 mulberry bags,

i don;t like your style, dude

306 who doesn't like mulberry bags?  I hope they are what I think they are

307 'Today SNAP released the most recent food stamp numbers. Not surprisingly, we just saw another all time high 44.2 million poverty-level Americans relying on government funding for day to day sustenance.'

308 The strange thing is that mulberry bags makes a very cogent point.  Right, I really am off now.  (Bonus points; what is the name for a collective gaggle of Canadians - you know, like a murder of crows?  A "compromise" of Canadians?  An "aboot" of Canadians? An "NDP" of Canadians?) 

309 A "roof" of Canadians?  "Sneakers" of Canadians?  I am bilingual CDN/AMN

310 they changed the name of "food Stamps" to SNAP and they changed the requirements:  "Households may have $2,000 in countable resources, such as a bank account, or $3000 in countable resources if at least one person is age 60 or older, or is disabled.  However, certain resources are NOT counted, such as a home and lot, the resources of people who receive Supplemental Security Income (SSI), the resources of people who receive Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF, formerly AFDC), and most retirement (pension) plans."

311 I'd never disavow you, Black Mamba, although that's what St Peter said too.

312 I agree with everything you guys are saying but I still want to point out that the bes plumber is New Zealand! so for any of your plumbing needs just in case your in New zeland call 0508 446 892

313 Fuck I'm drunk, now.

Good couple days, histrionically-speaking.

314 BC, yeah, I get that - Bin Laden, Conservative majority, a few other things, good times.

315 need gas fitting? visit us www.gasfitter.co.nz

316

"Update: Hockey Legend Ken Dryden, who went into Liberal Party politics after his Hall of Fame career, apparently lost. That's a shame."

No it's not; he's a Liberal. Being a great NHL goaltender doesn't confer special status on Ken Dryden. His constituents don't support him, and today he's gone.

317 You gotta like how the so-called conservative that voted for Mulroney and thinks Harper is to far to the right lets us all know just how serious he is with his name. Concerned (see, it's serious) Christian (religious, so he can't be lying) Canadian (just incase you thought he was still lying, he isn't) Conservative (now if you don't believe him you're just crazy). Sometimes, the plants are just to easy to spot. You can't be THAT over-the-top with your SN when trying to pretend you are something you're not.

318 More OBL fever at AT:

In other words, Obama is the beneficiary of tactics he campaigned against -- that were performed at a location he campaigned against.

The adults won. The kids were along for the ride kicking and screaming. Americans' curiosity with how this all went down will bring this to light.

Lets hope.

319 When Harper receives that custom-framed, autographed portrait of Obama striking a pose, - only then will he know he's reached the f*cking big time, baby.

320 "What is it, Iggy? What are we going to do?" Ignatieff takes dramatic drag on cigarette "We're going to kill the Conservative Party, Farooq." "You idiot! You've killed us!"

321 I'll be interested to see what, if anything, the Cana-Cons do to address the absurdity that is the Human Rights commissions.  If they take care of that affront to liberty, I'll have some hope for our northern neighbor. 

322 Congratulations to Stephen Harper and his new Conservative majority. Quebec is worth a visit for their famous smoked meat. www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXjdwAbBa5c

323 No it's not; he's a Liberal. Being a great NHL goaltender doesn't confer special status on Ken Dryden. His constituents don't support him, and today he's gone. It's a good day for Canada when liberalism is hated more than hockey is loved.

324 Hell, if they wanted to reward Ken Dryden's Hockey Awesomeness they should have just parked him in the Senate like every other crony in Canada.

325 So it looks like the Tories ended up netting +24 seats.

Awesome.

326 "You idiot! You've killed us!"

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 03, 2011 07:44 AM (U9jjw)

Do I still get to see Montana?

327 A little discussion of the Canadian election from Zero Hedge.

328

Hurray for Mr. Harper!

What a humiliation for the Liberal Party. I knew they were going down, but I don't think anyone thought that it would be of such historic proportions. Anways, that what you get when you force an election that nobody wants. A huge, crushing backlash...

By the way, Iggiot is making an announcement at 10:00am EST. It's likely that he'll be throwing in the towel. Hopefully, he'll return to the US with his sights on utterly destroying your "Liberal Party" too   

329 I watched the Canadian Liberals on "Democracy Now" this morning. What a bunch of whining, deluded fools! They believe in "Democracy Now" but recoil when Conservatives get elected. Allez Monsieur Harper!

330 The NDP is essentially a Communist party. The reason they were able to snuff out the Liberals is that the LP had gotten so leftist itself that it had become mere Communist-Lite, and Communists never want Lite. As for the Conservatives, Harper is more like Joe Lieberman that GWB, let alone Reagan. It's a good thing he won, but the bad news is that sometime in the next 10 years, the NDP, with the Liberals out of the way, will win power and turn Canada forever Communist. Meanwhile, the current government in Mexico, the National Action Party, is much like the late Liberal Party, desperately trying to hold onto the far Left against the extreme Left. The extreme Left is represented there by the Democratic Party, another Communist group. The next election will most likely go Democrat there. With Mexico and Canada both Communist, they will be able to launch a pincer attack on an America weakened by both the budget deficit and by a Fifth Column ready to commit murder, sabotage, and rape in support of the Communist invaders. With our country seeded thoroughly with cowards and traitors, it is highly unlikely that America will win that war. The resulting Communist North American state will then last till the end of time, since it will be more powerful than any potential outsider, and Communist regimes cannot be overthrown from within without aid from outside.

331 ^{323 You gotta like how the so-called conservative that voted for Mulroney and thinks Harper is to far to the right lets us all know just how serious he is with his name. Concerned (see, it's serious) Christian (religious, so he can't be lying) Canadian (just incase you thought he was still lying, he isn't) Conservative (now if you don't believe him you're just crazy). Sometimes, the plants are just to easy to spot. You can't be THAT over-the-top with your SN when trying to pretend you are something you're not. Posted by: Rich}

That is a sock and an AoSHQ meme. Back during the 2008 elections many Concerned, Christian, Conservatives showed up to state that there was no way that they could ever vote for McCain because of Sarah Palin. Most said they had voted for a previous Republicans from Goldwater through W

332 Damn sock.

333

Ken Dryden losing isn't a shame.  He is a liberal.  Whenever a liberal loses, it's grounds for celebration.

Even if he was the greatest goalie other than Hasek to ever play the game.  He's a liberal.  We are happy when liberals lose.  No exceptions.