September 16, 2011

Cartoons vs. Human Beings
— LauraW

Before the Iraq war, a lefty friend of mind told me that rethuglikkkan scum, such as yourselves, see the world in a very superficial way. Shallowly, and in stark contrasts. Cartoony. Apparently we lack the cognitive delicacy that lefties exhibit when they examine the state of the world with extreme sensitivity and discernment, then march around in hot pink, throwing urine-filled balloons at police.

But I digress.

Read the whole thing.

This is an absorbing and well-written piece conveying the perspective of a liberal journalist who has known the Bush family off and on for a couple decades.

Technically it's about the way Dubya changed over time. But the best thing about this article is how it puts almost-palpable flesh on the former president.

Fact is, we all create mental caricatures of public figures; we must. After all, we don't know them. Just their faces, and some generalities about them.

In my academic cocoon, Bush was called a stupid warmonger trying to avenge his father’s failure to oust Saddam Hussein, a stupid warmonger trying to make the world safe for Big Oil, a stupid warmonger trying to prop up his sagging popularity. I told colleagues that I believed Bush—right or wrong—sincerely considered Iraq a deadly threat to the United States, period. My view got me labeled a Bush conservative. Then one morning I got into my academic office building’s elevator and saw this scratched into the paint: “Kill Bush.”

I had to catch my breath: Was this America?


Walt Harrington does a great job of letting us get to know George W. as he knew him.
Over his TWO (ahem) terms, we got the idea that Dubya is a loyal friend to people whom he respects. So that was real, not a caricature or legend.

Well, Walt seems to be a kindred spirit.

“I have told various George W. haters that they had best not underestimate the man,” I wrote, “that he’s smart, thoughtful in a brawny kind of way and, most of all, a good and decent man. … What I’ve never mentioned is that I didn’t vote for George W. I disagree with him on the Supreme Court, environment, abortion, the death penalty and affirmative action. So I voted against this good and decent man. It pained me to do it. … It baffles me that grown people must convince themselves that those with whom they disagree are stupid or malevolent.”

The best parts, the personal bits, are at the link. Recommend. The article is a little long but goes fast because of all the nifty fresh anecdotes. If you like that sort of thing.

Frankly, contemplating the difference between spin and reality made me start to wonder some things about Obama. Even had the beginnings of a charitable thought. But then I said, "NAAHHHHH...."

Thanks to Vmax.

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1
in!

Posted by: soothsayer at September 16, 2011 07:41 AM (sqkOB)

2
Henry Waxman is a caricature of himself.

Posted by: soothsayer at September 16, 2011 07:42 AM (sqkOB)

3 Liberal is just another word for projection. What they accuse you of is what they are doing/want to do.

Posted by: Have Blue at September 16, 2011 07:43 AM (IKTC8)

4

We have been told for the past three years how brilliant Obama is.   How educated, how erudite!   Why, he went to Columbia, don't you know, and Harvard Law, and he taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago.   


Meanwhile, we've also been told that President George W. Bush was a dunce, a man who lacked curiosity.   Uncurious George, they called him.   He didn't read, he didn't think, he couldn't understand.  


To me, the best parts of Harrington's article are the parts where he describes Bush's reading habits:    

He certainly enjoys reading and talking about books. And his friends know it. On his desk is a stack of books that have come as gifts: All Things Are Possible Through Prayer; Basho: The Complete Haiku; Children of Jihad; and Theodore Roosevelt’s Letters to His Children. To the pile, I add my own gift, Cleopatra by Pulitzer Prize–winning author Stacy Schiff. Right now, Bush is reading Ron Chernow’s Washington: A Life, a biography of the first president. “Chernow’s a great historian,” Bush says excitedly. “I think one of the great history books I read was on Alexander Hamilton by Chernow. But I also read House of Morgan, Titan, and now I’m reading Washington.”


He mentions David HalberstamÂ’s The Coldest Winter, a book about the Korean War that he read before a visit last year to Korea, to give a speech to evangelicals. “I stand up in front of 65,000 Christians to give a speech in South Korea Â… ,” he says, “and IÂ’m thinking about the bloody [battles] fought in the Korean War.” HalberstamÂ’s book—coupled with earlier readings of David McCulloughÂ’s Truman and Robert BeisnerÂ’s Dean Acheson, a biography of TrumanÂ’s secretary of state presented to him by BushÂ’s own secretary of state, Condoleezza Rice—gave the event deeper resonance. The decisions of the unpopular President Harry S Truman, he realized, made it possible for a former U. S. president to speak before freely worshipping Koreans 60 years later. “So history, in this case, gave me a better understanding of the moment, and Â… put it all into context—the wonder of the moment.”

I tick off a partial list of people Bush has read books about in recent years in addition to Washington, Truman, and Acheson: Abraham Lincoln, Andrew Carnegie, Mark Twain, Huey Long, Lyndon Johnson, Theodore Roosevelt, Andrew Mellon, Dietrich Bonhoeffer, Ulysses S. Grant, John Quincy Adams, Genghis Khan.


“Genghis Khan?” I ask incredulously.


“I didn’t know much about him. I was fascinated by him. I guess I’ve always been fascinated by larger-than-life figures. That’s why I’m looking forward to reading Cleopatra. I know nothing about her. … But you can sit there and be absorbed by TV, let the news of the moment consume you. You can just do nothing. I choose to read as a form of relaxation. … Laura used to say, ‘Reading is taking a journey,’ and she’s right.”


Meanwhile, and please take this with a grain of salt, here's a description from Ulsterman's anonymous (and potentially fictitious) "White House insider" about Obama's reading habits:

And that desk, itÂ’s a mess.  Magazines spread out all over it.  Stupid shit too.  Real low brow reading material the president is into.  People.  Rolling Stone.  Lots of those tabloid things.  The most common thread with this shit is itÂ’s about the president.  If itÂ’s about him, heÂ’s gonna read it.  Good or bad – doesnÂ’t matter.  If somebody is talking about him, heÂ’s reading it.  HeÂ’s watching it.  Whatever.  The guyÂ’s self-obsession is off the f**king charts.


Again, maybe this stuff isn't true.   Maybe "Ulsterman" is just making it all up.   But it rings true to me.  

Now, compare and contrast the two men.   Who exactly is the smart one and who is the dummy?

Posted by: The Regular Guy at September 16, 2011 07:43 AM (qHCyt)

5 THIS IS JUST LIES BUSHITLER IS A DUMMIE ALL MY SMART FRIENDS KNOW THIS YOU ARE A RETHUGLICAN SHEEPLE AND SHOULD BE IN A KAMP FOR RETHUGLICAN SHEEPLE MY HONEY OBAMA WILL TRIUMPH HAVE A NICE DAY!

Posted by: KayInMaine, Unplugged and Unlithiumed and Proud of It! at September 16, 2011 07:48 AM (2PTT7)

6 Laura nice article.

I think the lampooning and pigeonholing of Bush as psycho warmonger is funny.  His dream was bringing the troops home from the round-robin middle east deployments that had existed since his Dad failed to take down Hussein.  He was horrified at how often Clinton had deployed 10th Mountain.

Fate and history have a habit of getting their way.

Posted by: sven10077 at September 16, 2011 07:48 AM (AEIYh)

7 Not to worry, lefties with their depth of intellectual understanding and the profundity of their cognitive processes, will read this and not have a fucking clue about what this guy is even hinting at.  G.W. Bush, like Ronald Reagan, will always be an idiot to them and Bill Clinton will always be the president that they would have died to change places with Monica Lewinsky with and Barack SCOAMF Obama will always be the president with whom they wait eternally with for those they've been waiting for.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at September 16, 2011 07:48 AM (jx2j9)

8
All we need to know about the Left's mindset is this: They have kinder words for Al Qaeda and the Taliban than they do about President Bush.


Posted by: soothsayer at September 16, 2011 07:48 AM (sqkOB)

9 Hell, I disagreed with GWB on a lot if things myself: "compassionate" conservatism, Harriet Miers, Medicare Part D, etc. But I never doubted that he was a good and decent man who loved this country. Unlike a certain SCOAMF.

Posted by: Andy at September 16, 2011 07:48 AM (uI4yi)

10 ... a lefty friend of mind ...

Oxymoron much?

Posted by: Piñon Farmer at September 16, 2011 07:49 AM (IzuWw)

11 4 TRG,

nah it is likely true....

all you need to know about Bush the younger is he went to one of John Boyd's lectures on the OODA loop....

Bush has far more disciplined reason than Obama, went hand in hand with being a decent fighter pilot.

Posted by: sven10077 at September 16, 2011 07:49 AM (AEIYh)

12 Libs heads would blow up at some of this.  In their pathetically insecure world they have to be thought of as the most intelligent people or their entire world would come crashing down around them; which produces some of the most stunning disconnects possible such as a scientific retard like Gore being considered an expert on global warming.

The SCoaMF is as dumb as a plank; I realized that pretty early on and haven't seen or heard anything subsequently to alter my opinion.  GWB is smart enough not to care about what people think of his intelligence.

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 16, 2011 07:50 AM (RKzwg)

13 But I saw Bush on Family Guy as a coked up drunk !

Posted by: proud dum-dum at September 16, 2011 07:50 AM (Y+DPZ)

14 The President of the United States keeping up with the Kardashians and wondering with People mag if Aniston is pregnant?  Why am I not surprised?

Posted by: Katy Beth at September 16, 2011 07:50 AM (q3bmE)

15 Remind me again what Obama read on his vacation. 

Posted by: NC Mountain Girl at September 16, 2011 07:51 AM (rRnVk)

16 Dubya was an average President, but as a man? up there as one of the best in respect to personality, character, and humility

Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Perry Guy) at September 16, 2011 07:51 AM (yAor6)

17 I read it when I saw a link yesterday, from Insty. Go read, as LauraW says, it's more than worth the time.  Cheers to Harrington for describing the man, not just the politician.

Posted by: Retread at September 16, 2011 07:52 AM (o/h26)

18 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at September 16, 2011 07:53 AM (fyOgS)

19
The racist CBC (congressional black cocksuckers), a group of assholes who never said anything but vitriolic bile about President Bush, traveled to Cuba several years ago.

The CBC came back and reported how wonderful Fidel Castro was. They could not stop complimenting Castro.

These people are sick and they are evil rotten bastards.

Posted by: soothsayer at September 16, 2011 07:53 AM (sqkOB)

20

What's wrong with seeing the world as a series as stark, superficial contrasts?

RAWN PAWL!!!1!

Posted by: The Guy Who Brings Up RAWN PAWL!!!1! at September 16, 2011 07:53 AM (Vy1lZ)

21 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at September 16, 2011 07:53 AM (8y9MW)

22

Actually, my favorite bit in the article was how mystified the author was that people feel the need to demonize their opposition.  I was deeply amused by how he could possibly be mystified.  The saying that Republicans think Democrats are wrong while Democrats think Republicans are evil has been around for ages and ages. 

 

 

Posted by: alexthechick at September 16, 2011 07:53 AM (VtjlW)

23 Like Rush, I have already read and studied enough about the liberal mind such that I know them like every inch of my glorious naked body.  I don't need to know any more.  The 10 or 15 minutes I would spend to see what this guy has to say about RinoBush is 10 or 15 minutes I'll never get back.

Posted by: Ugknown at September 16, 2011 07:54 AM (F1JEL)

24 Good point, Alex.

Posted by: lauraw at September 16, 2011 07:55 AM (zSMrI)

25 Heh It's actually rethugikkkant scum! Btw, bad time for my money bomb?

Posted by: Navycopjoe aka uber palinista at September 16, 2011 07:56 AM (iGzDt)

26 Harrington did a helluva great job with that piece. Dubya may not have been a great president, but he's an amazingly good man.

I doubt anyone can or will write (at least with a straight face) a similar article about the stuttering clusterf*** of a miserable failure. He's a failure as president and, so far as anything I've seen or heard suggests, a failure as a human being, too.

Posted by: MrScribbler at September 16, 2011 07:56 AM (YjjrR)

27 Laura always brings the goods. 

Posted by: mikeyboss at September 16, 2011 07:58 AM (MX5qJ)

28
and speaking of cartoonish descriptions that demonize political opponents...

Remember when NPR hired that jackoff to make a "humorous" cartoon video on "How To Speak Teabag?"

Remember how funny that was? It was nasty and mean and not even close to containing a kernel of truth.

Posted by: soothsayer at September 16, 2011 07:58 AM (sqkOB)

29 I especially appreciated his comments from when he and President Bush had a long private conversation on the Truman Balcony. That also says something about President Bush, that he took the time to talk to the author when he did not have to do so.

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at September 16, 2011 07:58 AM (o2lIv)

30
And what's really funny is that it was brought to us by the same people who are always pointing and shrieking "racist!" at us.

Posted by: soothsayer at September 16, 2011 07:59 AM (sqkOB)

31

A.  Dubya is not a dumby.  This is the greatest of BDS practitioners lies.

B.  I am fascinated with the phenomenon currently on display:  Wild-eyed, factually deficient conspiracy theories linking Bush, oil companies, Halliburton,a nd the X-Files secret cabal that really rules everything vs. actual, easily verified malfeasance.  And the lefties won't even acknowledge the hypocrisy.  But we're the simpletons.  Ok, then.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 16, 2011 08:00 AM (B+qrE)

32 He's a failure as president and, so far as anything I've seen or heard suggests, a failure as a human being, too.

I think this is actually (sadly) part of why his personal favorability is still relatively high (still in the 50's last I heard- as opposed to Job Approval).  The American people don't like to think of our President as Evil.  It took 6+ non-stop years of demonization from the press (and zero push-back from the president) finally to convince people that GW was "bad," and a "thug."

Despite the evidence of their eyes and ears, the average American just doesn't want to believe that Barack Obama is a bad person.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at September 16, 2011 08:00 AM (8y9MW)

33 "And what's really funny is that it was brought to us by the same people who are always pointing and shrieking 'racist!' at us." There is no hypocrisy or inconsistency there. Baseless charges are baseless charges.

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at September 16, 2011 08:01 AM (cbyrC)

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at September 16, 2011 08:02 AM (jx2j9)

35

#11: all you need to know about Bush the younger is he went to one of John Boyd's lectures on the OODA loop....

An invitation for which I would have killed.  And one to which the present occupant of the White House would have responded: "Who?"

Pop Quiz: What US military service which took Air Force Officer John Boyd's thinking to heart in transforming its way of fighting?  Answer hidden below:

The United States Marine Corps

Posted by: sherlock at September 16, 2011 08:02 AM (DPvCq)

36 Who decoorates their house with pictures of themself?A SCoaMF.

Posted by: steevy at September 16, 2011 08:03 AM (fyOgS)

37 Maybe the RINO yellers will note a similarty. Probably not.

Posted by: polynikes Texan for Romney at September 16, 2011 08:03 AM (efZ1v)

38 Despite the evidence of their eyes and ears, the average American just doesn't want to believe that Barack Obama is a bad person.


Of course they don't...they elected the man.

Posted by: GMan at September 16, 2011 08:04 AM (sxq57)

39 Remember, it's the reality-based left that worships people like Paul Krugman, who's grand idea for getting this country back on the path to fiscal health is... ummm... for us to be attacked by aliens.

Who's the shallow, cartoony ones again?

Posted by: wiserbud at September 16, 2011 08:05 AM (3Okgs)

40 "Before the Iraq war, a lefty friend of mind told me that rethuglikkkan scum, such as yourselves, see the world in a very superficial way. Shallowly, and in stark contrasts. " Yeah, this is one of the attitudes that I particularly despise in liberals. They really believe that liberals are more open-minded than conservatives. That liberals, geniuses that they are, are more able to see past the surface, at all of the nuances and grey areas. But if you oppose the big spending policies of a black president you are racist. If you believe that building a mosque within a few blocks of ground zero is insensitive, you are Islamaphobic. And of course, I'm homophobic, because as a traditional Catholic, I think marriage is between a man and a woman. And if you are against killing fetuses in the womb you are anti woman, or as Jineene Gahrhofallow would say, have Stockholm Syndrome. Yup, these are the people who see all the nuances and aren't superficial in their views.

Posted by: nerdygirl at September 16, 2011 08:05 AM (OR6d2)

41
maybe Ace's first post will be about that nifty one-sentence bill that was just passed in the House...

Posted by: soothsayer at September 16, 2011 08:05 AM (sqkOB)

42

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at September 16, 2011 12:02 PM (jx2j9)

I'm with that guy.  I'm not much of a brand loyalty guy, but I will glady refuse to buy a certain brand.  I drive a Chevy now because I owned it before they became Government Motors.  But when the time comes to get a new car I'll either get a Ford or something foreign. 

Posted by: yinzer at September 16, 2011 08:06 AM (/Mla1)

43 36 Sherlock,

Correct on who understood the conflict pattern thesis the best thus far....

I wish Boyd were alive to give his analysis of how to defeat AQ...

I think economics coupled with Mossad tactics would have been the answer.

Posted by: sven10077 at September 16, 2011 08:07 AM (AEIYh)

44
Princeton invited Achmadinijihad to speak.

But if Ann Coulter or Don Rumsfeld want to speak at Princeton...

Posted by: soothsayer at September 16, 2011 08:07 AM (sqkOB)

45 maybe Ace's first post will be about that nifty one-sentence bill that was just passed in the House...

What nifty, one-sentence bill would that be?  "The [Actual name of ObamaCare bill] is hereby repealed"?  Please?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at September 16, 2011 08:07 AM (8y9MW)

46 I especially appreciated his comments from when he and President Bush had a long private conversation on the Truman Balcony. That also says something about President Bush, that he took the time to talk to the author when he did not have to do so.

Wouldn't you have loved to have been a fly on the wall during that conversation?

W sounds humble enough to search for guidance, and that makes all the difference. SCOAMF is sure it is we who need guidance, not himself.

 


Posted by: Retread at September 16, 2011 08:08 AM (o/h26)

47

/Looks at Jessica Rabbit...

sometimes, its not so bad being a Toon....

Posted by: Roger Rabbit at September 16, 2011 08:08 AM (NtXW4)

48

I had charitable thoughts about President Obama yesterday, when I watched the presentation of the Medal of Honor to Marine Sargeant Dakota Meyer. The ceremony was moving, and President Obama handled it with warmth, grace, and decorum.

It is wrong to dehumanize our opponents. First, because empathy and compassion are virtues and acquiring virtue makes us better, closer to God and more fully human. Second, because if we view those we oppose as two-dimensional characters, we are unable to accurately understand their motivations and actions. You can't beat them if you don't know them.

Posted by: troyriser at September 16, 2011 08:09 AM (vtiE6)

49 BWAHAHA Reid is about to tip the hand on how much power Barry wields.....

over at Tepid they are pleading with Reid to force Boehner to come to Barry....

we'll know by next week what's up with the real power play....

if Reid allows Boehner to win the Senate donks are in survival mode

Posted by: sven10077 at September 16, 2011 08:09 AM (AEIYh)

50 "Society loses the value of objects unnecessarily destroyed," and at this aphorism, which will make the hair of the protectionists stand on end: "To break, to destroy, to dissipate is not to encourage national employment," or more briefly: "Destruction is not profitable."

F. Bastiat

Posted by: SantaRosaStan, uberhaupt nicht at September 16, 2011 08:09 AM (UqKQV)

51
the anti-government interference bill that prevents Obama's radical NRLB from ordering around businesses.

Posted by: soothsayer at September 16, 2011 08:09 AM (sqkOB)

52 Oh, for the record, I bought a 2009 ford fusion, best car I have ever owned. Suck it JEF And Da Bears!!!!!

Posted by: Navycopjoe aka uber palinista at September 16, 2011 08:10 AM (iGzDt)

53 Obama would read a little more but he's got a heavy schedule of parties, golf, and admiring his own reflection in the mirror.

Posted by: al-Cicero, Tea Party Jihadist at September 16, 2011 08:10 AM (rtM7G)

54 54 NCJ,

Maybe...they ran martz's O better for sure....

you a fan of the OODA loop?

Posted by: sven10077 at September 16, 2011 08:11 AM (AEIYh)

55 Posted by: troyriser at September 16, 2011 12:09 PM (vtiE6)

I'm not 'de-humanizing' the Obamoids.  I'm trying to destroy them before they destroy me and my country


Posted by: SantaRosaStan at September 16, 2011 08:12 AM (UqKQV)

56 And Da Bears!!!!!

Navycopjoe, you're going down!!!

Posted by: EC at September 16, 2011 08:12 AM (GQ8sn)

57 I note the author was against the death penalty. He would be happy to know that the the police just captured Edward Corliss who killed a store clerk not long ago. He was on parole after serving a 'life sentence' for killing another clerk in 1971. Pro Choice Anti Death Penalty. the logic is faulty even with the reasonable ones.

Posted by: polynikes Texan for Romney at September 16, 2011 08:12 AM (efZ1v)

58 Frankly, contemplating the difference between spin and reality made me start to wonder some things about Obama. Even had the beginnings of a charitable thought. But then I said, "NAAHHHHH...."

I don't doubt that Obama wants to make the country better; but his manner of doing it never ever works. Socialism/fascism whatever you wanna call it just doesn't work. Giving power to unions over companies isn't a way to create jobs or get the country moving. I don't think he's evil.

Well, yeah I do. Actually.

Posted by: lorien1973 at September 16, 2011 08:13 AM (usXZy)

59 60 Yep.

Posted by: steevy at September 16, 2011 08:14 AM (fyOgS)

60 Posted by: soothsayer at September 16, 2011 11:58 AM

That's Mark Fiore, Pulitzer Prize laureate: The Pulitzer Prize committee, in a statement, said that "his biting wit, extensive research and ability to distill complex issues [on the Web site] set a high standard for an emerging form of commentary."

Posted by: Henry Waxman at September 16, 2011 08:14 AM (2/g18)

61 Everything that leftists say and write on MSNBC and elsewhere has to do with dehumanizing the opposition.

That's how they are able to so easily call us racists, terrorists, homophobes, hostage takers, and such.  Even the vice President.

Ultimately, this is how Germans were able to load people onto trains by the million.  They were not "people" to them.  They were sub-human.

Never forget that they have declared war on us, with the President's blessing.

Posted by: cherry pi, terrorist hostage taking SOB at September 16, 2011 08:15 AM (OhYCU)

62

#36 I believe there is a statue of Maj. Boyd at that service's War College Museum or equivalent.

BTW: he eventually made Colonel, but he seems to always be known as "Major", for the rank he held when he was leader of the USAF Fighter Weapons School, where he got the nickname "40-second Boyd".

Which was how many seconds it took him to get on your 6, in position to shoot your ass down.

Posted by: sherlock at September 16, 2011 08:15 AM (DPvCq)

63 But I saw Bush on Family Guy as a coked up drunk !

The two times I remember Bush showing up on Family Guy, the "super devil" episode and the one with the cutaway where he wants to do coke with his National Guard CO, they accidentally made him seem like a swell dude.

I think what happened is they couldn't come up with a way to make Bush a retarded supervillain (too nuanced), so they made him hospitable—which = dumb and evil, to the kind of people who write TV shows (L.A. transplants from the East Coast), because it's the opposite of how they are.

Posted by: oblig. at September 16, 2011 08:16 AM (xvZW9)

64 57. Long time no read editor!! How's the world's cutest baby girl?

Posted by: Navycopjoe aka uber palinista at September 16, 2011 08:18 AM (iGzDt)

65 Compare this description of Bush to SCOAMF who Chrissy Matthews tells us has an IQ of 160.  Obama is, of course, a deep thinker.  That's why his better-than-Lincoln speeches always, always, always have a reference to corporate jets and putting school teachers to work.  Such original thought is simply brilliant.  To understand the genius of the SCOAMF's mind, one needs only read the many articles he contributed to Harvard Law Review while serving as its president or review the long list of scholarly publications he authored while serving as a "professor" of Constitutional law at the University of Chicago.  Of course the testimonials to his excellence in the classroom are many.  From the mounds of evidence, it is readily apparent that Barack Obama is a... drumroll, please... stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: Peregrine Took, Hobbit Barbariarian at Biden's Gates of Mordor at September 16, 2011 08:18 AM (64S5N)

66

Before the Iraq war, a lefty friend of mind told me that rethuglikkkan scum, such as yourselves, see the world in a very superficial way. Shallowly, and in stark contrasts. Cartoony

 

That's funny.  I've always said the landscape of the liberal mind was drawn in crayon.

Look at the caricatures of Republicans in movies if you want to see cartoony.

Like someone said.....  Projection.

Posted by: eleven at September 16, 2011 08:18 AM (fsLdt)

67 OBAMA 2012: BUFFOONS ARE PEOPLE TWO!

Posted by: Sub-Tard at September 16, 2011 08:19 AM (0M3AQ)

68 I believe that there is something peculiar in Obama's upbringing and education that makes him a nihilist. He has utter contempt for those who aren't members of what he defines as the Elite, and he aims to cause them injury. As somebody's butler once said, "some men just want to watch the world burn." Obama is one of them.

Posted by: al-Cicero, Tea Party Jihadist at September 16, 2011 08:19 AM (rtM7G)

69

68 Compare this description of Bush to SCOAMF who Chrissy Matthews tells us has an IQ of 160.  Obama is, of course, a deep thinker.  That's why his better-than-Lincoln speeches always, always, always have a reference to corporate jets and putting school teachers to work.  Such original thought is simply brilliant. 

 

Hey is trying to emancipate us from those evil ATMs and corporate jets. Of course he is Lincolnesque (I pray that he can spell and pronounce Lincolnesquse).

Posted by: Sub-Tard at September 16, 2011 08:21 AM (0M3AQ)

70

George W. Bush? That guy is a coked-up drunk!

Posted by: Brain Griffin, Family Guy Dog at September 16, 2011 08:22 AM (Vy1lZ)

71 Going back to caricatures of George Bush, I highly recommend a gander at the "In My World" archives at imao.us. It is an absolutely hilarious version of history where George Bush is a dumb, Xbox playing hick who has only the most superficial understanding of what is going on around him. Yes, I know it sounds like all the caricatures that the left has thrown at him, but the point is that FrankJ takes these things to their reductio ad absurdum conclusions. Where else could you have a monomaniacal Condi Rice taking over the US using her giant robots and then running the country from her volcano hideout just outside DC? (With Jenna and Barbara as her faithful minions, and OH BOY, do they get in trouble when Laura gets there to clean things up). Or a blind samurai acting as the primary Secret Service agent keeping the President from harm? Seriously, I cannot recommend the series enough.

Posted by: David, infamous sockpuppet at September 16, 2011 08:24 AM (UtoLw)

72 There are many examples of "Republicans suck!" in films that I've seen recently.  An xample comes to mind:

Julie and Julia
A scene where Amy Adams misses a deadline to her boss and she's in tears begging him for more time to finish her story.  Her boss says, 'don't worry I won't fire you.  I'm not a Republican."

I saw that scene and had to stop and think how fucking out of place that line was.  It was so far left field that I had to stop watching it with the wife and go upstairs to play some Battlefield Bad Company 2.

Posted by: EC at September 16, 2011 08:26 AM (GQ8sn)

73 Alinsky tells Obama:

The goal is to foment enough public discontent, moral confusion, and outright chaos to spark the social upheaval that Marx, Engels, and Lenin predicted

 -- a revolution whose foot soldiers view the status quo as fatally flawed and wholly unworthy of salvation.

Thus, the theory goes, the people will settle for nothing less than that status quoÂ’s complete collapse

----

So he views himself a glorious hero.

Posted by: cherry pi, terrorist hostage taking SOB at September 16, 2011 08:26 AM (OhYCU)

74

Great piece--the guy makes no bones about the duality of disliking his policies (though he doesn't belabor the point) yet liking the man, and that glimpse of the Truman Balcony conversation would show people who can see through their biases that Bush did have a mind of his own, he was not just a puppet of Cheney and Rumsfeld.

Best president ever?  Nah, would still go with Washington, Lincoln, Reagan in some order, but he was pretty good, and a far sight better than anyone else who was willing to even campaign at the time.  Certainly much better Obama has been so far.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at September 16, 2011 08:27 AM (vNpDB)

75 Anyone remember the book, Death of a President?  Leftists could imagine assassinating Bush.

Posted by: cherry pi, terrorist hostage taking SOB at September 16, 2011 08:28 AM (OhYCU)

76 It baffles me that grown people must convince themselves that those with whom they disagree are stupid or malevolent.

I don't think leftists are stupid, but I've no doubt that they are malevolent.  I'm not referring to the useful idiot type leftists, who goose step to the beat of the leftist drum without understanding what they are marching for.  I'm talking about the ones who call the tune.

I believe them to be malevolent because that is what their actions demonstrate.  When someone consistently tells harmful lies and consistently works to destroy civilization itself, then that person is malevolent.

It was not always so.  Once upon a time, long ago at this point, there were leftists of good conscience.  Those days have long passed and those leftists have either died or departed with the left to become libertarians.  All that remain today are Marxists and Gramscians.

Some Americans call them traitors, implying treason to the United States, but that doesn't nearly do them justice.  They are traitors to the entire human race. 

Posted by: Lee Reynolds at September 16, 2011 08:28 AM (zkRoG)

77 Awww.... Bush is a "smart, thoughtful in a brawny kind of way and, most of all, a good and decent man." Well, if he's so damned smart, why did he act like such a fucking idiot for 8 years? If Bush had any degree of political deftness about him, Cheney (or someone similar) would now be president, Obama would still only be that punk-ass senator from Illinois, and I wouldn't still have to register with the authorities to buy Sudafed at the fucking grocery store. Yeah, on 10 September 2001 it was all fun and games and having a Texas grown Frat boy in the White House seemed right. But it was a different world the next day, and the frat boy lacked the mental cajones to rise to the task. But it's not all his fault. In the final analysis, we do indeed get the government we deserve. Always. Without fail.

Posted by: SuperMag at September 16, 2011 08:29 AM (RkOLP)

78 Once upon a time, long ago at this point, there were leftists of good conscience.

Leftists were never of good conscience.  However, they have taken over the Democratic party and a TV network.  The moderate Dems have been driven out.  The country will be better off if these moderates return to power.

Posted by: cherry pi, terrorist hostage taking SOB at September 16, 2011 08:32 AM (OhYCU)

79 81 Once upon a time, long ago at this point, there were leftists of good conscience.

Leftists were never of good conscience.  However, they have taken over the Democratic party and a TV network.  The moderate Dems have been driven out.  The country will be better off if these moderates return to power.
Once upon a time there were actual Liberals of good conscience. Unfortunately, they all reside in the Repugnican party today. Too bad about that individual rights concept of law and justice. Social justice is so much sexier and financially rewarding.

Posted by: Sub-Tard at September 16, 2011 08:34 AM (0M3AQ)

80 Anyone remember the book, Death of a President?

They made the movie too.  Someone tell me we can remake again with Obama in it.  Please, I want to have a good laugh.

Posted by: EC at September 16, 2011 08:37 AM (GQ8sn)

81

If Bush had any degree of political deftness about him, Cheney (or someone similar) would now be president, Obama would still only be that punk-ass senator from Illinois, and I wouldn't still have to register with the authorities to buy Sudafed at the fucking grocery store.

Posted by: SuperMag at September 16, 2011 12:29 PM (RkOLP)

I'm calling "fail" on that revisionist view.  Anti-incumbent fever was hot because of an economy that was beginning to tank, and Bush was pursuing the proper policies regarding Iraq and Afghanistan, though they were domestically unpopular.  Cheney was never going to run, and the most conservative primary candidate (teh Fred) turned out to be a weak horse.  It's the fault of the people who kept voting for Huckabee, Romney, and McCain (and the Paulbots, naturally) that we ended up with a squsih candidate, who was inevitably going to be crushed by a candidate who was different from the establishment and was consistent in message playing on the polls that showed what the population was angry about.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at September 16, 2011 08:37 AM (vNpDB)

82

Frankly, contemplating the difference between spin and reality made me start to wonder some things about Obama. Even had the beginnings of a charitable thought.

There's one good thing that sticks out in my mind about Obama. When he was campaigning, he was autographing everything, especially his book. He was the rock-star candidate in 2008, and there was a good chance of his becoming president. (A very good chance, it turned out.) That he was generous with his autograph was a nice thing he did for his fans/supporters.

Then he heard about a guy following him around, collecting his autograph and selling the signed items on eBay. Eventually, Obama spotted the guy, and when the guy asked him for his autograph, Obama said no. It seemed like a genuine, unstaged thing. I thought at the time that if Obama could say no and embarass a douchebag and piss him off while campaigning, then maybe he has the backbone and character to deny our nation's rivals when their douchebag leaders go too far with their requests.

Candidate Obama took a risk to do the right thing back then. I'm still waiting for that guy to be our President.

Posted by: FireHorse at September 16, 2011 08:37 AM (F5OMl)

83 I'm calling "fail" on that revisionist view.

That and a lot of what was wrong with the Bush 43 White House lies at the feet of "The Architect".  I turn the channel when he comes on FNC now.

Posted by: Ian S. at September 16, 2011 08:39 AM (tqwMN)

84 I saw that scene and had to stop and think how fucking out of place that line was.  It was so far left field that I had to stop watching it ...

I used to read everything Stephen King wrote.  But  i his last few books, he just had to throw in some mindless little attack on Bush and Republicans.  Completely out of place and had absolutely nothing to do with the story whatsoever.

Each time, I simply closed the book and never picked it up again.  Totally took me out of the story and just pissed me for for it's peevishness. 

Actually sent the latest book back without even opening it and canceled my subscription to the Stephen King Library.

Posted by: wiserbud at September 16, 2011 08:47 AM (3Okgs)

85 This is why I generally hate partisan political humor.  At some point, WE GET that Bush sounds dumb!  Geez.  Humor should be about laughing at stuff, not coercing people to think a certain way.

I remember when Allahpundit posted a link to the South park clip about Bush admitting he did the September 11th attacks.  Instead of portraying him as dumb, he was portrayed as an evil genius.  What I remember is that some people in the youtube comments were just plain confused.  'He's Bush.  He's suppose to be dumb.  He's suppose to be against free speech.' 

Partisan humor just seems to be an excuse for comedians to be lazy.  "Boy, that guy I don't like sure is stupid and or evil, huh?"  (applaud)

Posted by: Anony at September 16, 2011 08:47 AM (7ahtU)

86

Yeah, I read that article on a tip from Insty (heh) yesterday, Laura.  I had tears in my eyes when I finished it, which quickly turned to rage that such a good man - despite his many failures, the greatest of which was not punching back twice as hard at the left - * remains the equivalent of a turd in the toilet bowl to the fucking 52% that put Preznit Sutterfuck in office.

One part of the article I enjoyed was when GWHB, as VP, was trying to set up a meeting with the author and coudn't do it because of conflicting schedules.  It took W to call and say "you know, when the Vice President invites you to lunch,you accept the invitation."  If for some reason I got a call to have lunch with 41 or 43, I'd be there with bells on.  Hell, I might even lunch with the Syphilitic Hillbilly, just to get drunk and maybe snag some tail.  But if the SCoAMF called?  I would deliberately make sure Barky himself was on the line so I could tell him to eat shit and die.

Lorien @ 61 says, "I don't doubt that Obama wants to make the country better."  Sorry to bust your bubble, but I do.  In a very basic way, he isn't an American (and not in any Birther way).  He doesn't understand the American spirit.  He doesn't understand our founding documents.  He has no connection with people outside of a small circle of ass-kissers, Marxists and 'intellectuals.'  He doesn't like us.  He doesn't like America.  He is a worthless, malignant, thin-skinned, immature spoiled brat.

And a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure.

*in my darkest thoughts, I imagine history damning Dubya for not hanging the entire Democrat leadership for treason.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Clitoris at September 16, 2011 08:50 AM (zF6Iw)

87 Character assassination will forever be in politics because it works. It's an extremely effective tactic.

If you do it right it's amazing. Ideally your supporters will hate your opponent so much, that even when he makes sense that will just be more evidence of his tricksy, lying nature.

In Pakistan muslims aren't vaccinating their kids against polio because they're convinced it's a Western plot to poison their kids. (In America it's stupid rich women convinced it's a Big Pharma plot.)

And what's the best evidence? When some do-gooder Westerner goes on and on about trying to save the kids from polio! Hah! What a give-a-way. If your real goal was to poison muslim kids, what better front than to masquerade as a doctor trying to help them!

If you get the mind-poison in just right there's  nothing the other side can say to convince you they are decent people, let alone have anything reasonable to say on policy.



Posted by: Clubber Lang at September 16, 2011 08:54 AM (QcFbt)

88 I find it amazing that someone who got to know W, liked him, and most  importantly, respected him, would vote instead for a Gore or Kerry.

Posted by: Peregrine Took, Hobbit Barbariarian at Biden's Gates of Mordor at September 16, 2011 08:56 AM (64S5N)

89

Clubber Lang, 90:  Character assassination will forever be in politics because it works.

I couldn't help but notice that you're named after a Chicagoan.

Posted by: FireHorse at September 16, 2011 08:58 AM (F5OMl)

90

The two times I remember Bush showing up on Family Guy, the "super devil" episode and the one with the cutaway where he wants to do coke with his National Guard CO, they accidentally made him seem like a swell dude.

There was also the time Brian yelled up to the treehouse and told him that he had to go to New Orleans after the hurricane, and Bush yelled, Go away! I'm reading Superfudge!"

(And there was the time when he made the Slinky go down the stairs.)

Posted by: FireHorse at September 16, 2011 09:05 AM (F5OMl)

91 Interesting, how impressed the author was with Bush on a personal and intellectual level.

I used to be part of an academic department in which two members (an '80s era Soviet emigre and I) were to the right of center.  The rest ranged from liberal to angry left, and they got angrier as the Iraq war got underway, and went on.  The division to which I belonged was small, cozy and particularly angry.  I got called out a lot for being out of step.

They really hated George Bush, and you could get an automatic belly laugh for the most witless comment about his stupidity.

Our chair won a presidential medal around 2005 or 2006, I forget.  A lot of his colleagues sympathized with him: such an honor, too bad he had to receive it from that idiot in the White House.

He went to DC, had some time with the President, talked about him one to one.  He came away with a respect for him that sounded much like Harrington's. He still wasn't a supporter politically, but he never again made Bush-is-stupid jokes.

Posted by: JPS at September 16, 2011 09:05 AM (axSVP)

92 Whoops - should read, "talked with him one to one."

Posted by: JPS at September 16, 2011 09:06 AM (axSVP)

93 Nifty anecdote, JPS.

Posted by: lauraw at September 16, 2011 09:24 AM (zSMrI)

94 Wow.  Tried reading it, but that might be the worst looking font in the history of the web.  Maybe it's just the way it's being rendered in Firefox 3.6, but I had to copy the whole thing and paste it into Wordpad.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at September 16, 2011 09:29 AM (HwE/1)

95 Some Americans call them traitors, implying treason to the United States, but that doesn't nearly do them justice. They are traitors to the entire human race.

Posted by: Lee Reynolds at September 16, 2011 12:28 PM (zkRoG)

 

Well said.  Well said indeed.

Posted by: Reactionary at September 16, 2011 09:31 AM (xUM1Q)

96 This piece is a triumph, laying waste to the decade of unapologetic bullshit and intellectual dishonesty I endured as a conservative, and hitting in the face (with a shovel) those who insist that I'm somehow wrong for having characterized the American left as thoroughly repugnant pieces of petulant shit.

There is no argument to be had with people who genuinely believe you advocate the wholesale murder of others for profit. The only thing you can hope to achieve in dealing with them is their electoral annihilation.

Posted by: GayPatriotMidwest at September 16, 2011 09:41 AM (PET8M)

97 I always thought Bush was smart.

The reason is because my father grew up in Texas.  Most of his life he swore like a trooper, drank a lot of beer, and worked blue collar jobs. 

Most people didn't know that he had to drop out of pre-med at IU during the Depression,  or that he had won 2 Bronze Stars (including one for organizing the street people of Naples into a repair plant for the 5th Army, made possible because he had taught himself Italian).

They didn't know that the guy with the lingering Texas accent married a woman who ended up as dean at a college.  That he wrote parody sonnets for fun,  and read in bed every night (just like W).

The people who say Bush is stupid have a very limited view of life.  I sort of feel sorry for them,  except when they are trying to destroy my country,  which seems like most of the time, lately.


Posted by: Miss Marple at September 16, 2011 09:58 AM (Fo83G)

98 Bob Turner asked that his office be disinfected.  hehe

I like the last line in that article.  It seems to be happening more and more, naked pictures of celebs and others getting out on the internet.  I can guarantee that no naked pictures of me or Mrs. Marauder will make it to teh intartubes.  Why?  Because I DON'T TAKE NAKED PICTURES OF MYSELF!!  (And the world is forever grateful for that...)

Good Lord, what are some of these people thinking?

Posted by: Lone Marauder at September 16, 2011 10:03 AM (/bVuS)

99 It's a good piece. dubya comes across as a bit more cocky, before he was elected, than I had imagined him to be, and much more involved in his father's presidency.

Posted by: long toss at September 16, 2011 10:06 AM (bd1FS)

100 Read an article?  Don't you know how intellectually incurious we conservatives are?

Posted by: huerfano at September 16, 2011 10:07 AM (263hv)

101

So i'm curious if the author, who couldn't bring himself to vote for a good and decent man with whom he did not agree, would somehow find the "courage" to vote for an evil and despicable man with whom he did?

 

Posted by: fretless at September 16, 2011 10:15 AM (v3pYe)

102 I find it amazing that someone who got to know W, liked him, and most  importantly, respected him, would vote instead for a Gore or Kerry.

Posted by: Peregrine Took, Hobbit Barbariarian at Biden's Gates of Mordor at September 16, 2011 12:56 PM (64S5N)

If it gets out you voted for Bush, you lose your job.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 16, 2011 10:19 AM (z1N6a)

103 The one redeeming thing I keep remembering about Obama was when he called Kanye West a jackass in an unscripted moment, after West had crashed Taylor Swift's award reception.

Posted by: mikeyboss at September 16, 2011 10:24 AM (MX5qJ)

104

50

I had the same reaction.  I think Obama is a SCOAMF but I have to admit that his actions at the ceremony seemed warm and sincere.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop at September 16, 2011 11:35 AM (M0NzJ)

105 100-Miss Marple, your dad sounds a lot like mine. He had to quit school in the 9th grade to work on a CCC project his mother signed him up for, because she didn't like him. When he turned 16, he joined the army, where they found out he spoke fluent Russian, German, and learned Italian from the POW's he guarded and cooked for. They then tested him, and sent him to MIT for electrical engineering, and then all the records disappear. He cussed, but didn't drink after he became a Baptist, delighted in hanging out at the feed store on Saturday mornings before we went out to work the cattle, and died in my mother's arms. But he would have been considered a yokel by the credenticrats of today. So, my hat is off to your dad, and to the lady you have become, because of him. I hope I do my dad proud as well.

Posted by: moki at September 16, 2011 12:07 PM (dZmFh)

106 91 I find it amazing that someone who got to know W, liked him, and most  importantly, respected him, would vote instead for a Gore or Kerry.

Posted by: Peregrine Took, Hobbit Barbariarian at Biden's Gates of Mordor at September 16, 2011 12:56 PM (64S5N)


This and


104

So i'm curious if the author, who couldn't bring himself to vote for a good and decent man with whom he did not agree, would somehow find the "courage" to vote for an evil and despicable man with whom he did?


It boggles my mind. If Gore and Kerry had been what anyone could possibly consider in any way either good or decent, well, fine. They weren't, everybody knew it, and yet he still voted for them. If the donks ever nominate someone I believe to be a "good and decent" man, and the 'pubbies are running a venal, narcissistic SCOAMF, I'd vote for the donk. When a 9/11 happens, I want a good and decent, honest man (or woman) to be the one who picks up the phone. Can you imagine if Bambi had been in office in 2001? Only upside I can conceive is that the WTC wouldn't still be a hole in the ground, although I'm not sure a 500 ft statue with a plaque that begins "My name is Obamamantis.." would be an improvement....

Posted by: Whovian at September 16, 2011 04:26 PM (L9pfS)

107 I have been quite impressive with your posts, keep up the great work.

Posted by: Storm’s Heart AudioBook at September 16, 2011 05:41 PM (EYYAV)

108

Libtards put on the mantle of Intellectualism so that they can feel superior to us 'ordinary folks'. Mostly they do that BECAUSE they're inferior in skills both useful and mental.

They still heartily believe in catastrophic AGW even after all the countervailing real science has shown it to be of such a low effect that it is indistinguishable from the noise in the temperature data while a number of actual effectors such as the Iris Effect, the PDO, the ADO, the ENSO, cosmic rays, solar variability, orbital variability, axis wobble, etc., etc. are PROVEN to afffect the climate. QED.

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