1 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

2

So we can all vote for Perry now.

3

Sponge Bob could win running on the R side.

Why are you taunting us with the idea of a decent candidate?

 

4 Anybody but Sponge Bob!

5 I so heppy!

6 This:

http://tinyurl.com/8xh2ft9

Worth a watch.

7 Welcome back PA.

8 thank you purple avenger! thank you! thank you! thank you!

9 Only 54%???  What the SCOAMF is wrong with the rest?

10 Why are you taunting us with the idea of a decent candidate?

Like I said, if I'd declared for President earlier this year, I'd be the front-runner. For a month, anyway.

11 Even 19% of Dems don't think he deserves a second term. The indies are against a second term by 55%.

Judging from what the Occupoopers and their Hollywood buddies say, their disgust stems from the SCOAMF taking too long to turn America into a socialist shithole

12 But while they may disapprove of his handling of this issue, few Americans think the president is most to blame for the current state of the nation's economy. When asked to choose between the Bush administration, the Obama administration, Wall Street, and Congress, more Americans blame the Bush administration (22 percent) or Congress (16 percent) than Wall Street (12 percent) or Mr. Obama (12 percent), though 24 percent volunteer that a combination of all four is to blame.

13 Still, let's not take any chances. Pick the one who polls best against the SCOAMF and be done with it. Gingrich worries me a great deal.

14

Oh and PA, I would like to thank you for upholding the fine blog tradition of no new posts for hours and then back to back posts within minutes.  sniff  It brings a tear to the eye.

15 Oh, and to be clear: my campaign would be dressing up as a ham sandwich.

That's how sane we've all been this go 'round.

16 If he predeclared he make Plankton SecDef, I think we'd have something.

17 Sponge Bob does seem like a better candidate than Gingrich or Rombley

18 Sponge Bob is a friggin RINO

19 If he predeclared he make Plankton SecDef, I think we'd have something.

I hope you've got kids, 'cause -- even though I don't get that joke -- I can tell you've got some familiarity with the show.

20 And 33% still approve of Obama's handling of the economy... A 800 billion dollar stimulus for zero uptick-in fact a down tick in unemployment- was not enough!!!

21 Early for POTUS (an improvement over the current crop of candidates fer shure.

22 Vote Patrick, because, uh,...

23
nice to see PA posting again

24 We need to run a moderate!

25

Sponge Bob .... is.... Romney?

Kinda fits actualy...

Kinda squishy.... yep.... Overly nice... check... Spongey wears underwear, Romney secret Underwear...

This is kinda scary....

26 Sponge Bob campaigned to the left of Captain Planet.

27 So Perry doesn't have to worry about losing the votes those gay republicans who were horrified, horrified I say, by that ad.

28 Spongebob is woefully behind in the ground organization.

29 Well, let's not start sucking each other's dicks quite yet.

30 And 33% still approve of Obama's handling of the economy...

Its been said the Great Depression really wasn't so bad...if you had a job.

31 Only 54%???  What the SCOAMF is wrong with the rest?

I can speak to some of that. One of the wife's college friends is a single-issue voter. As long as the Democrats support abortion, she'll vote for them, even if they killed her grandmother in front of her.

Freakin' idjits.

32 Everyone please post your email addresses!  We promise it's not to throw you into a FEMA camp.

33 His approval rating is higher than his "deserves to be reelected" numbers.

34 7 Welcome back PA.

Posted by: Ben at December 14, 2011 01:26 PM (wuv1c)

We'll go blue. On another note, Corbett hasnt done enough.

35 I thought Sponge Bob already announced he wasn't running. Or are we hoping to draft him come convention time?

36 Perry's going to shock many come the Iowa cauci.

37 Krabby Patties today, Krabby Patties tomorrow, Krabby Patties forever!!!!

38 Further proof that only Mitt Romney can win the nomination. How does this prove that? Because I say so, damnit!

39 I'd vote for the laughing retard in the movie Wrong Turn over Obama

40 Spongebob is woefully behind in the ground organization.

Yea, but putting Plankton on team will drag in trillions of voters.

41 whoa! PA! Where you been?

42 So Perry doesn't have to worry about losing the votes those gay republicans who were horrified, horrified I say, by that ad.

I still haven't seen the add.  I've heard everything from "openly homophobic" to "ehh... that's a bit of a stretch."  Can the Morons fill me in?

43 Boom! Fo' shizzle ... represent!!!

44 On a serious note, if Obama is running under 50% in national polls - then he is getting crushed in the electoral college. California, NYC, etc. and the urban voter buoy his nationwide number -- but don't get him much in the electoral college. His one bright spot - holding CA will keep him above Mondale.

45 7 Welcome back PA.

Posted by: Ben at December 14, 2011 01:26 PM (wuv1c)

We'll go blue. On another note, I dont think Corbett has not done enough.

46

even if they killed her grandmother in front of her.

They are terrified that they might not be able to fuck random strangers without consequences.

Think about the mentality that it takes to see the United States of America fail because you want to promiscuously fuck people you have no permanent relationship with.

Just stunning.

47 Before I vote for Sponge Bob I'll need a picture of his wife?

If it's Jessica Rabbit I'm in!

48

Re Sponge Bob: 2 words

 

Birth Certificate

49 Maybe we can get that Krab guy for Treasury?

50

You need to hit rock bottom before you realize you have a problem. I'm going to need four more years for that.

51

I>>> still haven't seen the add. I've heard everything from "openly homophobic" to "ehh... that's a bit of a stretch." Can the Morons fill me in?

Yeah, i didn't get the "anti-gay" vibe either. He said something along the lines of, "If gays can serve in the military, then we should be able to saw christmas or pray openly" or something like that.

 

I didn't get how it was anti-gay. I thought he was asking why we are tolerant of one thing and not another

52 36 I thought Sponge Bob already announced he wasn't running. Or are we hoping to draft him come convention time?

Posted by: mugiwara at December 14, 2011 01:33 PM (f1TCK)

Mr. Crabb is much closer to what we need fiscally. Of course, Patrick is advising Obama now so he's not available. Turns out Sandy Squirrel is not good at debates.

53 I guess Perry makes some rather odd comparison between gays serving openly and the war on Christmas, LOL. Thats a fail in my book. He's still my guy, but it was a dumb fucking ad.

54 Apparently to the MBM, Bush never goes out style.

55 I refuse to lower myself to the level of Donald Trump.

56 I'd vote for the homosexual rapist redneck in Pulp Fiction, with the mongoloid from the movie Mask as his VP over Obama.

57

oh, PA= Purple Avenger, whoops, thought it was the state.

Speaking of spongebob Mr. Krabs would make an excellent Sec of Treasury of Federal Reserve Chairman.

58 Think about the mentality that it takes to see the United States of America fail because you want to promiscuously fuck people you have no permanent relationship with.

The alternative is having to acknowledge that men and women are different, which is so poisonous to feminism they kicked Summers out of Hah-vuhd for saying it.

59 What are you people complaining about? My house is underwater, too!

60 AllenG, basically we can tolerate gays in the military, but not prayer in school. Mitten's mobys can't handle it.

61

Yea, yea, PA!

 

whoa! PA! Where you been?

Posted by: ace

LOL. Gotta love the surprised look when PA walks in and Ace has forgotten he had the keys.

62 Stealing this election may be harder than the Democrats think.  But I'm sure they're up to the task.

63 54 I guess Perry makes some rather odd comparison between gays serving openly and the war on Christmas, LOL. Thats a fail in my book. He's still my guy, but it was a dumb fucking ad.

Posted by: Max Power at December 14, 2011 01:37 PM (q177U)

Did you watch the ad?  Why guess?

64 I'd vote for Jar Jar Binks over Obama. Yes I went there

65 Vote Spongebob Squarepants! A snail in every pineapple!

66 Just found this- New Iowa poll Perry in third place at-13% up from 7% in their last poll. However it's Insider Advantage-not the best polling co. Second poll to show significant improvement in Iowa for Perry-but the other poll was ARG...fwiw.

67 What a SCOAMF!

For the smartest man in the history of the universe, 0bama sure screws the pooch at least once a day. This is so going to be ridiculed.as much as the ATTACK WATCH.

68 Just stunning.

What's worse in this particular instance is the lack of self-awareness. The last time I talked to her, it was "abortion, abortion, abortion". I told her I wasn't going to argue abortion with her, and then she said, "Who brought up abortion?"

You did, two seconds ago, you nitwit. Aren't you even listening to what's coming out of your own mouth?

So I haven't talked to her since. My blood pressure's a little better for it.

69 How does the delegate split get determined in Iowa?

70 more Americans blame the Bush administration (22 percent)

22% of the voters are functionally retarded

71 Unfortunately, we're more likely to get Patrick than SpongeBob...

72 Well if your upset with the Perry ad- Newt actually said this- Newt Gingrich told a soldier who complained about the recent repeal of Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell during a town hall in Ames, Iowa this afternoon that “you can certainly reverse the president’s position on social engineering in the military” and suggested that the Obama administration has “extraordinary anti-military prejudice”: GINGRICH: I was underwhelmed when [Secretary of Defense] Leon Panetta proudly announced that 97 percent of the troops have now gone through sensitivity training. Somehow, that’s not why I thought we recruited people to be on active duty. [...] You have to start with the idea that this is an administration of extraordinary anti-military prejudice, that just hides it, okay? I mean, this president is not a commander in chief in any normal sense, he is a politician in chief. ****** But he didn't have enough money to put it in an ad...

73 What other President was awesome enough that he could spend over a trillion dollars on a "jobs" bill and unemployment goes up over 1.5%?

74 If ^you're^ upset with the Perry ad- Do you know Newt's position?

75 Stealing this election may be harder than the Democrats think.

I'm predicting a 5-7% MOF (Margin of Fraud), but it'll be concentrated in areas Obama is likely to take anyway.

I predict Philly and Chicago will have more votes counted than there are voters registered.

76 Purple!! Welcome back from the cold!

Loved your contribution here and only stopped checking your old blog for activity last year. Did you ever finish the Spit?

77 Posted by: tasker at December 14, 2011 01:40 PM (r2PLg)

Perry's problem is inertia.  There are too many people who are trend followers, they already have a trend they've latched onto (Newt) and Perry has not established a strong competing trend that is as visibly strong yet.  So inertia will keep them on their established trend until something happens to make them switch.

That may be a decent showing in Iowa, or it may be the Newt-plosion that I think may be starting.

78 Turns out Sandy Squirrel is not good at debates.

Well, she is from Texas, land of W and Perry.

79 22% of the voters are functionally retarded It's a mental illness. I use to fight a guy that said that....turns out he's been proven to be right about them-again-and again.

80 Tasked you can continue to post here but first you must blow me.

81 45 ...His one bright spot - holding CA will keep him above Mondale. Posted by: Jean at December 14, 2011 01:35 PM (WkuV6) 11 months is still a very long time to go.

82 Doesn't Newt know that it is now Commander AND Chief.

The w0n has so ordained it.

83 Vote for me and I'll get rid of the liberal lumberjack from Brawney.

84 Perry's problem is inertia. There are too many people who are trend followers, they already have a trend they've latched onto (Newt) and Perry has not established a strong competing trend that is as visibly strong yet. You've nailed it.

85 Purple at 78 - Safe bet on Philly. There are several areas in Philadelphia that not only count more votes than registered voters but more than the census records for total adults.

86 Perry's problem is inertia. Bingo. One gets the sense that people basically still want to vote for Perry, but are afraid that it would be a throwaway vote that helps Mitt. I think this is mentality is dumb for a variety of reasons, but it's real. I have a feeling that Iowa will be determinitive, one way or the other, for Perry.

87 50

Re Sponge Bob: 2 words

Birth Certificate

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at December 14, 2011 01:35 PM (SO2Q

Well.. no problemo?  Where he from? Hawaii? California?

88 America, are you sponge worthy???

89 81: "Imminent Newt-plosion!" That's what Newt says when he's about to blow a wad.

90 I have videos of Sponge Bob praising FDR.
Well, not whole videos, but soundbites that will make you cringe in disgust .

91 I'm still a big fan of Alvin Greene.  Ask yourself, is he more liberal than Mitt?

92 If we get too many voters on Manhattan, the island will just flip over.

93 Funny how this shit, both the approval rating and the reelect number failed to make it into the historic "first time in history we have ever seen this" special bullshit on NBC last night with "No Chin" Todd. 

Five minute segment on the election and the presidents numbers were never mentioned.  Of course they did manage to bring up the "high probability" of a third party run.  But the managed to compare Newt's numbers from 94 to Newt's numbers now.  Also, "worst congress ever," as an important factor. 

The pollster went so far as to say "three flawed candidates" when talking about Newt, Romney and Obama, but then everybody looked uncomfortable and they switched to Newt's personal numbers. 

94 grognard- What you think- if the voters have too much conflict in deciding between Newt or Mitt-would they default to another candidate...?

95 Did you ever finish the Spit?

Still working on it.  The muse just isn't there.  Built about 20 other things in the interim.

96

I'm single and ready to mingle ... where are all the hot spongettes????

A vote for a sponge is a vote for a sponge!

97 That's what Newt says when he's about to blow a wad.

Posted by: Joffen at December 14, 2011 01:47 PM (zLeKL)

If that's the case, I think I respect him more.

98 83 22% of the voters are functionally retarded

It's a mental illness.

I use to fight a guy that said that....turns out he's been proven to be right about them-again-and again.

Posted by: tasker at December 14, 2011 01:45 PM (r2PLg)

I came to a very depresing realization a couple of years ago...

By Definition, half of the Human population is of below average intelligence.

Voters are Human (or if Dem, some Dead Humans)..

Less than 60% of eligable voters vote... so you really only need 30.1% of the STUPIDEST eligable voters to vote for you, and you will always win the election.

This is one reason the Founders did not WANT a Democracy.

99 I guess Perry makes some rather odd comparison between gays serving openly and the war on Christmas, LOL. Thats a fail in my book. He's still my guy, but it was a dumb fucking ad.

Posted by: Max Power at December 14, 2011 01:37 PM (q177U)

Did you watch the ad?  Why guess?

I've been one of Perry's strongest supporters on here, I don't have an agenda. The ad, in my opinion, is a fucking train wreck. I'll still vote for him, If I get the chance, though. Anyway here's what it says:

"IÂ’m not ashamed to admit that IÂ’m a Christian, but you donÂ’t need to be in the pew every Sunday to know thereÂ’s something wrong in this country when gays can serve openly in the military but our kids canÂ’t openly celebrate Christmas or pray in school.
As President, IÂ’ll end ObamaÂ’s war on religion. And IÂ’ll fight against liberal attacks on our religious heritage.
Faith made America strong. It can make her strong again.
IÂ’m Rick Perry and I approve this message."

100 That's why they will need the promise of amnesty, To get out the new vote (illegals)

101 SpongeBob will do a better job driving out of the ditch than SCOAMF did.

102 I have a feeling that Iowa will be determinitive, one way or the other, for Perry. **** Looks like the Perry campaign might have the same feeling-the headlines today-are something to the effect-perry makes big push in Iowa.. Trouble is they shouldn't want too much of that sentiment-or expectation- the caucus in Iowa is open and PPP was saying something like 21% of them could be Dems and that since there is no action on the Dem side.... Plus there is the unusually streaky polling of Ron Paul this time around- talk about mucking up the works...

103 I think the narrative for Perry changes with a decent showing in Iowa, then in SC. My fear is an all out burnt earth attack from Mittens in FL on Social Security. An attack that could cost the Republicans not only the state in the Presidential election - but also a Senate seat.

104 streaky=steady

105 Stealing this election may be harder than the Democrats think.  But I'm sure they're up to the task.

Not a problem - guess who will be counting the votes.

106
I appeal to the purple states!

107 98 grognard-

What you think- if the voters have too much conflict in deciding between Newt or Mitt-would they default to another candidate...?

Posted by: tasker at December 14, 2011 01:48 PM (r2PLg)

No, they'll go with the one with the higher poll numbers, barring some major disqualifying event.

Trends are built.  Newt's was started well before Cain even had troubles with his past, because of debate performance.  It wasn't until Cain imploded that Newt's trend really gained all of that latent energy.

Perry is starting to rebuild now, but it will still take something extraordinary for people to disregard his several early miscues and gaffes, just as they disregarded Newt's many faults. 

108 Romeo13 So I take it-you like Alexander Hamilton as much as the guy I was talking about...heh.

109
I have a bad feeling about this.

110 This is great news. That Purple Avenger has a post! ::nora is very happy:: ~~waves to p.a.~~

111 Day 10 -- Drone Held Hostage

112 thereÂ’s something wrong in this country when gays can serve openly in the military but our kids canÂ’t openly celebrate Christmas or pray in school. ---- Let's break it down. "gays can serve openly in the military" Yes, that's true. "our kids canÂ’t openly celebrate Christmas or pray in school." That's what Perry is arguing, and you can make a strong case that this is true. He's not making a judgement on the former. He's saying "why can't we do both?" He's saying "X is true, and Y is true." He's not saying X is wrong.

113 I have a 5 point plan, and a body to go with it!

114 No, they'll go with the one with the higher poll numbers, barring some major disqualifying event. sh#t-that makes a lot of sense.

115 In another devastating poll for the SCOAMF;

Glee ratings plummet 23 percent from last year

116

Sponge Bob could win running on the R side

Even with his vehicular manslaughter convinction?

117 10 Like I said, if I'd declared for President earlier this year, I'd be the front-runner. For a month, anyway.
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at December 14, 2011 01:27 PM (bjRNS)

Change your name to "Cole" Slaw and choose as your running mate BBQ and you'd be a shoo-in!

118 My fear is an all out burnt earth attack from Mittens in FL on Social Security.

Romney would do well to avoid all discussion of SS.  He's not all that popular in FL as it is.  I really think FL has had its fill of Obama though and would hold its nose and go for him anyway.  The Obama bumper sticker concentration in (heavily Dem) Palm Beach county is pretty light so far.

119
and...

Human Cain is one BabaWawa's 10 Most Influential People

120 Well, no. Let's be clear. Perry's problem is that he had the worst opening campaign in recent memory. He killed the momentum he had leading up to his entrance and was terribly disappointing to people who were willing to back him.

Posted by: runninrebel at December 14, 2011 01:49 PM (N/1Dm)

Agreed, but though that was the root of the problem, it's different now that he's trying to claw back from it. Inertia is now his enemy. He lost his momentum (positive inertia) and now is trying to move stationary objects in the form of Newt Romney voters (negative inertia).

By positive and negative, I refer to the effect on Perry's numbers.

121

Don't call me a mongoloid, that's strictly for use against Joe Biden only!

 

I'd vote for Rube Walker over the SCOAMF. RUUUUBE! WALKER!!!

122
it should really be...

Barabara Walters' 10 Most Influential People...Who Would Agree To Be On My Stupid TV Show

123
Something tells me that Baba asks about a hundred people to be on the show and ninety of them say no.

124 @104 Posted by: Max Power at December 14, 2011 01:51 PM (q177U)

Fair enough - I was just wondering because the "guess" made it unclear whether you had actually seen the ad.

125 My fear is an all out burnt earth attack from Mittens in FL on Social Security. An attack that could cost the Republicans not only the state in the Presidential election - but also a Senate seat. oh gawd...I've been watching that senate race-for awhile Mack was outpolling Nelson... ^That would not be a good scenario. There's a plot line that has them duking it out till... Cali IIRC.

126

Yahoo has the story about Obama's poll numbers. The headline also points out that despite this, Zero still outpolls Newt by a signifigant number.

 

127

Sponge Bob could win running on the R side.

 

Gingrich kind of looks like Spongebob, in those episodes where Spogebob is somehow sick and therefore has lost most of his healthy, yellow color.  Suds, for instance.

 

Human Cain is one BabaWawa's 10 Most Influential People

Republicans are only safe to praise once they're dead or otherwise politically destroyed.

128 So how many car trunk fulls of democratic votes will have to be found at cemeteries to swing the 2012 election from whoever to Obama?

129

@65

George Lucas is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

If you overlook the original Star Wars and Empire and Raiders,  those were good.

Still don't understand why the dumbsh*t has to alter all his friggin movies after the fact... and even change the title of Raiders of the Lost Ark.  What the hell is wrong with the guy?

Wait, what was this thread about again....

 

130 I'm prepared for my opponents to say a lot of  "negative" things about me.
That I'm a cannibal. That I live among whale crap and crabs. That I'm incapable of a monogamous relationship. Do not be distracted by these scurrilous personal attacks.

131 Spongebob's not a flip-flopper.

132 Barry appeal is just becoming more selective.

133 Erick Erickson: Shut The Fuck Up.

134 113. Philadelphia can easily manufacture 100,000 fraudulent votes. And then there's Pittsburgh, Norristown and Chester, as well. Who will question? As HaveBlue noted, we have more votes cast in North Philly than there are ALL PEOPLE counted by the census. (including children) I personally think there are more votes cast in North and West Philly than there are non-broken windows in same. The Dem ward leaders can make up absentees ballots as much as required. We'd have to hold back all tallies for Lancaster and Chester Counties for days after the election to combat the Fraud Machine.

135 Even with his vehicular manslaughter convinction?

And with 20 dead hookers remains discovered buried under his porch...

136
who, Fritz Hollings?

137 Previous comment is what Erick is saying. It's actually pretty funny...and sad.

138 I want to know who the hell approves of the job Congress is doing.  They can't be polling that many Mexican drug cartel members. 

139 And on a side note, we now know approximately how often Ace updates passwords and such around here.

140 I am flip and I may flop ... but I don't flip-flop!

141

Yahoo has the story about Obama's poll numbers. The headline also points out that despite this, Zero still outpolls Newt by a signifigant number.

 

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at December 14, 2011 01:59 PM (YmPwQ)

I don't like Newt but polling against Obama when we still have 4 or 5 vanity candidates running is a losing proposition. We split our own vote.

142

Don't get cocky -Republicans can still fuck this up.

 

"Dislike for the Guy X" is not the same thing as "Wanting Guy Y's entire agenda enacted."

 

Republicans are just as capable of confusing those two things as Democrats are.

 

Look at 2008: much of Obama's vote was from Bush fatigue (and perhaps some taint by association with Foley, Cunningham, Craig, Brownie, Abramoff, [insert vaguely distasteful Republican shenanigans here].)

Liberals didn't get it: they thought Obama's election meant "You like us, you really like us!" they proceeded to assume O being elected meant that the electorate really wanted the entire liberal program: single-payer health care, middle-school abortion drive-up windows, weekly flag-burning ceremonies, the head of Karl Marx on Mount Rushmore [insert traitorous Liberal shenanigans here].  But it didn't really mean that. It was just distaste for Bush and the cloud of problems percieved to be accompanying Bush.

Fast forward to 2010: Republicans have a great election year that is largely due to distaste for Obama. Now, Republicans have two choices:

1. Look at the electorate's distaste for Obama and say, "You like us, you really like us!" and proceed to enact every treasured thing on the Republican and/or Conservative wish list. Eliminate the EPA, Department of Education, NPR, the Endowment for the Arts - just as a start. Press for a marriage amendment. Drill everywhere. Make gun ownership mandatory. Abolish welfare, affirmative action, interstate highways. Fuck it, let's just make taxation illegal.

2. Look at the electorate's distaste for Obama and understand that it is largely that: distaste for Obama, and disappointment with the economic picture. That doesn't mean that the Republican and/or Conservative wish list is invalid - just that you can't assume anti-Obama sentiment equals commitment to a conservative agenda. You still have to advocate for that agenda and convince people of its merits.

All of which means that we can't just say "VOTE FOR 'NOT OBAMA'." We need to put up someone specific. The voters may want "not Obama" but that doesn't mean they'll come out in droves to vote for a ham sandwich or a dog or Alan Keyes.

143 I am flip and I may flop ... but I don't flip-flop!

Posted by: Sponge Bob at December 14, 2011 02:05 PM (GvYeG)

Everybody knows sponges are from Greece, show us the birth certificate sponge.

144 Well, shoot!  We're going to have to bring out the big cannon now.  Our secret weapon, FLOTUS, other wise known as "The Caboose".  We will win with M.O.-mentum! 

145  Barry appeal is just becoming more selective.

Posted by: can't let go of old memes at December 14, 2011 02:01 PM (GTbGH)

Dyno-mite!

146 121 Glee ratings plummet 23 percent from last year
Posted by: kbdabear at December 14, 2011 01:56 PM (Y+DPZ)

Dare we saw that news was met with glee?

147 All of which means that we can't just say "VOTE FOR 'NOT OBAMA'." We need to put up someone specific. The voters may want "not Obama" but that doesn't mean they'll come out in droves to vote for a ham sandwich or a dog or Alan Keyes. --- Yes. It's sad that this needs to be explained. Why aren't we looking not only at who can beat Obama but who will make the best President? Sure, Newt might beat Obama. Then what? How will he govern? The only way to get a clue is to look at the candidate's record. There's no other way to know. This is the most important factor out of the two. I think Perry has the best record out of everyone. I also believe he can beat Obama.

148

"As Emeril would say--Bam!"

 

As Malik Shebazz would say--BOOM!  

Last election was nightsticks.  2012 could be dynamite sticks.  I shudder to think. 

 

149

Dare we saw that news was met with glee?

 

A fun, lighthearted show that was ruined by the creator's desire to inject a shrill, leftist political agenda.   

150

151 You must be one of those birthers ... are you a racist sea urchin?

 

151

The reason you hear about 100 ballots found in a car trunk....its plausible. There is a reason you never hear about 23,333 ballots in a car trunk.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at December 14, 2011 01:53 PM (OWjjx)

I'll call your 23,333 and raise you 50,000. And you can believe that.

152

Perry is starting to rebuild now, but it will still take something extraordinary for people to disregard his several early miscues and gaffes, just as they disregarded Newt's many faults. 

Posted by: grognard at December 14, 2011 01:53 PM (NS2Mo)

According to biographer Isaac Arnold, Abraham Lincoln's Cooper Union speech (Let us have faith that right makes might, and in that faith, let us, to the end, dare to do our duty as we understand it...) "probably did more to secure his nomination, than any other act of his life."

With nothing to lose, Perry needs to go for broke and make an all-or-nothing speech that matters, one that directly addresses the fundamental fork-in-the-road choice voters will be making and what the results would mean: euro-socialism or free market capitalism, the illusion of security or the promise of freedom. It needs to be a speech in front of a live audience, not a television spot because Perry's biggest perceived weakness is his lack of communication skills, whereas Barack Obama and--more immediately--Newt Gingrich are perceived to be masters of the form. In truth, neither Obama nor Gingrich are as good as all that, either in debate or rhetoric.

Perry has to show he has the stuff to beat Obama. He won't do it in warm, fuzzy and flag-waving TV spots extolling the virtues of school prayer.

153 When this video gets out, Spongebob is done.

154

I got sum junk in my trunk ... just sayin' ...

A vote for Bob is a vote for a job!

155 Why aren't we looking not only at who can beat Obama but who will make the best President?

Even if a R wins, there's a significant chance they become a 1-termer too and may not choose to run again, get primaried and beaten, or beaten by some other D making outlandish promises.

Our road back to sanity, if it ever happens, will take several decades, and there will be a lot of 1-term scapegoats to be blamed along the way.

156 The good news is Sponge Bob could win as an R. The bad news is we will doubtless nominate him.

157 163 - I don't think so.  The economy is in the shitter at the moment, but a turnaround is coming, and I don't think it is more than 6 years off.  Whoever holds the office when it lands gets credit.  If we get a pro-business R, it happens much faster than if we keep Barry.  Also, there is control of SCOTUS to consider as well.  It may well be a much more "lasting prize."

158 Obama and Holder speak interchangeably of US citizens as "the people" equated with illegal aliens, not only being given voter "rights" but new congressional districts to represent the newly arrived illegal alien population. The illegal residents might think that they're getting a free ride on the Democrat welfare wagon. But since the constitutional rights of US citizens are effectively being revoked by recent congresses and administrations, that pie in the sky isn't apple or mincemeat. It's just more humble pie.

U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder, in a speech in Austin last night, criticized the redistricting maps drawn by the Texas Legislature as discriminatory against Hispanics, requiring Holder's aggressive federal review of State Legislature redistricting as well as voter identification laws in Texas and other states.

...and from The UK Guardian:
The "tough" State of Wisconsin new law requiring voters to carry photo ID before they can cast their ballot is being challenged in a federal lawsuit that claims thousands of poor, black and elderly people could be disenfranchised.

DISENFRANCHISED, coming from Obama's great compassion for the most indigent, elderly black population in Chicago. Don't forget his pinstripe crime that gutted the tax funded refurbishment of the Altgeld Gardens federally subsidized housing, literally ransacking everything of value, down to the pre-existing pipes and sinks, and thieving the tax funds to remodel "awarded" through union contracts that never performed the work. Those poor, old black US senior citizens were left to freeze to death in Chicago.

159 Take Obama's sock off. Nothing there but a gutter.

160 then she said, "Who brought up abortion?"

You did, two seconds ago, you nitwit. Aren't you even listening to what's coming out of your own mouth?


This is the problem with trying to have just about any type of discussion with Democrats.  Most of the time they have no idea what they're actually saying, they just repeat the same mantra they've heard over and over.  Ask them to explain further what they just said, and you get the deer in the headlights look.  I've given up even trying to talk to my family about a lot of topics.

161 Long time no see.

Glad to see you posting again.

 

162 Repeat what others have said:

Only 54% - what has happened to our country?  It should be more like 80% (leave 20% for the welfare bums and brainwashed blacks as Cain put it).  I guess the amount of stupid in this country is higher than I expected.

163 It doesn't matter - we're all doomed anyway. . .

164 The economy is in the shitter at the moment, but a turnaround is coming, and I don't think it is more than 6 years off.

The problem is that the machinery of job creation hasn't just slowed down as in "normal" oversupply driven recessions, its been destroyed, eliminated, shutdown. 

I see industrial parks here in FL where there's 80% or more vacancy rates because the businesses that were in those buildings are flat out of business, and their office furniture and equipment and building contents have been hauled off to scrap yards and shipped to Chinese smelters.

The businessmen who ran those shuttered businesses for 20 or 30 years aren't going to risk trying again if they managed to escape with enough to retire on.  With the fickle nature of the Federal govt, you'd be a fool to buy into that game and be demonized as a greedy corporate whore.

Once bitten, twice shy.

165 It may well be a much more "lasting prize."

$19 trillion in a single global banker's debt  is not covered even by the grand total sum only amounting annually to $16 trillion in gross global product. (Not mentioning, all the other bankers are not covering their debts, either, which explains the trend to simply confiscate private accounts, or to confiscate entire central national banks as with the IMF in Libya and Syria.)

166 As for republicans screwing it up - I have heard more than a few times, "if (Romney, Perry, Newt, Paul) gets the nomination, then I'm not voting!" or "I'm voting 3rd party".  For those little children in that camp - GROW UP!  I hate Newt and I would vote for him in second over Obama. 

I have four kids - I can not stand to think of where our nation will be with 4 more years of Obama.

Also a 3rd party run by Paul, Trump or Palin - that would guarantee Obama 4  more years.

167 Here, this didn't seem to raise an eyebrow on the thread where I posted it:
He's letting the mask slip a bit more.
http://tinyurl.com/csarv8s

Obama: "Where Congress Is Not Willing To Act, We're Going To Go Ahead And Do It Ourselves"

168 Sponge Bob, he's one bad mother.

169

Barack Hussein Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

I denounce myself.

170 I think the number of people who'd say he shouldn't get a second term would be higher, but they don't see anyone on the horizon they really want in office. Reagan was able to capitalize on this last time, but this time around there's no Reagan, just a bunch of Doles.

171 There's a lot of shit a president can get away with via executive order and regulatory changes.  Nixon did a huge amount of domestic economic stuff without congress.

172 The mood of the public is foul and short tempered.  "Anybody but Bush" has morphed into "Anybody but Obama".

173 @178 - The current field does not have a Reagan - but it sure has some "better than Doles" running. 

174

Listen up, chumps, 'winning' elections is for losers.  Making sure the liberal Democrat is in office while retaining our purity is how the true winners roll.  Like me. 

I've been staying home and not voting in elections for decades.  Goldwater didn't get my vote.  Back then I was a Democrat.  Dole didn't get my vote.  That whole war hero thing bothered me.  If Dole was such as war hero how come he went and got his arm shot off, huh?  Of course I didn't vote for McCain.  Shit, punks, McCain wanted to make U.S. citizens out of all them Mexicans who wash the dishes at the restaurant I inherited from daddy.  Over your dead body would I allow that to happen.  Of course it goes without saying I never voted for either Bushleague candidate.  Hell, I didn't even vote for Reagan.  He was a former Democrat.  I couldn't support him.  As I said at the time to my mistress:  "Honey, when I became your shop steward here at the factory I knew we were meant to be together and I also knew I could never vote for Reagan.  Former Democrats politicos are not pure, like a former Democrat like me."

After thinking on this contest, while taking a No. 2, I've determined that I'm going to stay home and not vote next November.  Two reasons.  First, we need Obama in office to block his agenda and then to impeach him.  Second, we need to clear the field for the Sarah Palin to run in 2016.  Without the Sarah we're nowhere.  We're nothing.  Everyone else besides the Sarah is just a vaccine pimping, healthcare pandering RINO. 

Palin-O'Donnell, '16. 

175 Events that lead to Obama's re-election.

Late July 2012 - Chinese invade Taiwan

August 6 and 9 - 2012 Obama nukes Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Debbie Wasserman Shultz touts this on Fox news as "A proven winning strategy". Says Republican spending cuts "Left us no other military options".

August 14, 2012 - Obama goes on TV asks for return of nukes by Japan. Likens them to the drone lost in Iran earlier; "and we'd still like that returned too." Says he inherited mess from Bush.

Sept 7, 2012 In a day that will live in Infamy - Chinese invade Hawaii starting with an air raid at Pearl Harbor. Obama makes TV speech: "Let me be perfectly clear: we have drawn a line in the sand on the beaches in West LA." warns Chinese "Don't call my Bluff." Threatens to veto Declaration of War by congress. Announces he has ordered Hiroshima to be nuked again - "since the Chinese didn't get the message the first time."

Sept 9, 2012 Chinese Army invades LA. Chinese tanks make short work of The US Army - which no longer has tanks - since they abandoned all of them in Iraq. Obama orders Nagasaki to be nuked again - says on TV "Can you smell what Barack is cooking" Obama orders sea to retreat - to cut off Chinese naval supply lines.

Nov 6, 2012 With intense fighting in eastern Pennsylvania - Vice President Joe Biden goes on TV "You can't change a diaper on a horse in mid stream" .

Nov 7, 2012 Chinese army captures Washington DC. They award Obama as a Hero of Communist Victory -  he joins John Kerry as the only Americans so honored. Obama is appointed President for life by the grateful Chinese.

176 I would guess that this number is low if for no other reason than it only polls people who actually answer polls instead of hanging up in disgust or annoyance.

177

Point one: As regards "Perry needs to go for broke and make an all-or-nothing speech that matters, one that directly addresses the fundamental fork-in-the-road choice voters will be making and what the results would mean: euro-socialism or free market capitalism, the illusion of security or the promise of freedom"

Yes. Perry needs to focus on a list of TWO alternatives. Lists of three are apprently too complex for him. 

Point two: Everybody agrees that the right will VOTE against Obama. We see this in AOSHQ all the time: "I'd vote for a [cocker spaniel/ham sandwich/lump of toe-jam] over Obama." "I'd crawl over broken glass that was sprayed with Ebola germs and rabies-carrying fleas to vote against the SCOAMF." Yeah, yeah, we know.

Only a few of the 'rons have said anything like "If Romney is the nominee I'm staying home."

But voting aint' the whole picture. Sure, almost all of us are going to VOTE for the GOP nominee. Pretty much all of us held our noses and voted for McCain, right?

Okay, let's take it for granted that almost all of you will VOTE for (for example) Mittens if he gets the nomination. But will you donate? Will you fundraise? Will you go door-to-door? Make phone calls? Participate in get-out-the-vote drives? Probably not.

We'll grudgingly hold your noses and vote for him. But the enthusiasm will only be anti-Obama, it won't be pro-Romney. And that will make a difference.

Sad. I'ma go git drunk now.

178 54%??? How did CBS not bury this story?

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