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October 08, 2011

Charlie "Oops My Taxes" Rangel Stirs Up The Draft Again
— Dave in Texas

Why does Charlie do this? (warning Huffpo link)

Because he loves the Democrat dependency on class.

That's it.

In 2002, over a year into the Afghanistan War, a National Geographic-Roper study showed that 83% of young adults could not find Afghanistan on a map. It is not a stretch to say 83% might be capable of this were there a real and imminent possibility of them being sent there. How can we entrust ourselves with making the tough decisions of sending soldiers into harm's way if we do not even know the most basic facts of the conflict? How might Congress change their decisions concerning war if it were their sons and daughters being sent? In this day and age, there is a vacuum in the immediate and personal need for people to be concerned about these issues because they have nothing to lose -- no stake in the game.

In 1942, a far greater number of American men who volunteered to fight as a Marine or a Soldier, or a Sailor, had no idea where Guadalcanal was. Most had never heard of Midway, or Guam, and Hawaii was some pearl in the ocean on a postcard.

They signed up anyway. To defend America. They had no idea where they would go. They did have a distinct purpose. The nation called, and they answered the call.

As do our Soldiers, Marines, Sailors and Airmen do today.

It's not about where on the globe, you simpering tax cheat. It's about us, and them. They give of themselves to honor the nation.

Charlie Rangel was a soldier and served in Korea. He knows exactly what I'm talking about. To his eternal shame, he discards that valuable and honorable service to tear down the nation that he once carried a rifle to defend.

Shameful. But that's Charlie.

via WilliamA

Posted by: Dave in Texas at 02:38 PM | Comments (63)
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1 Rangel has no honor.

Posted by: Harry at October 08, 2011 02:46 PM (gKhdR)

2 "Charlie Rangel was a soldier and served in Korea. He knows exactly what I'm talking about. To his eternal shame, he discards that valuable and honorable service to tear down the nation he once carried a rifle to defend."

This.

Oh, and according to Drudge, the OccupyAShower asshats are now shutting down the Air and Space Museum.

They have fucked with the wrong American on this one. I have now officially gone from "bewildered and amused" to "FILLY SMASH FILTHY HIPPIES!!!!"

Posted by: Filly at October 08, 2011 02:46 PM (8h+pG)

3 You can only have civil disobedience if you have something (like a draft notice in this case) to disobey. With an all volunteer force, you can't have people refusing to go in or burn their draft cards. It is impossible to really demonstrate against induction into the military if everyone going in is doing so of their own free will.

Charlie is attempting to recreate a 1960's draft environment so there can be something else to protest. If there is a draft, some of these "99%" scum will get draft notices and just add that as another item in their list of things to whine about.

Posted by: crosspatch at October 08, 2011 02:47 PM (ZbLJZ)

4 81 year old men can't be drafted.

Posted by: cherry pi, terrorist hostage taking SOB at October 08, 2011 02:51 PM (OhYCU)

The filthy hippies, some of them, at least, are getting paid - by a Soros-funded front group, natch. http://tinyurl.com/3e97868

Posted by: 141Driver at October 08, 2011 02:55 PM (fCaFf)

6 He is corrupt. But because he be black, he gets the Black Corruptocrat Pass, Just like Obama, Waters, Holder etc.

Posted by: pat at October 08, 2011 02:56 PM (UFxap)

7 I note that Lawrence O'Donnell will never be constipated now that Herman Cain tore him a new asshole. Larry was clearly insufficiently smug

Posted by: Doom am I, full-ripe, dealing death to the worlds, engaged in devouring mankind. at October 08, 2011 02:56 PM (TN9Wj)

8 Hey, hey, Ho, ho, we're not going to go, and fight Barack's war in Mexico!

Posted by: Leftard Protest Chant that will Never Be Heard at October 08, 2011 02:57 PM (zhcFw)

9 Hey, Ho, BHO, quanto Mexicanos hoy muerto!!

Posted by: Leftard Protest Chant that will Never Be Heard at October 08, 2011 02:58 PM (zhcFw)

10 Protest those greedy fat-cat bankers, and let Nazi-collaborator, billionaire investor George Soros take over their assets. Power to the people, which you smelly ones will discover does not include you.

Posted by: 141Driver at October 08, 2011 03:00 PM (fCaFf)

11
The repeal of DADT AND a draft?

Dear God.

Glad I had the honor of serving when I did.

Posted by: irongrampa at October 08, 2011 03:00 PM (SAMxH)

12 As do our Soldiers, Marines, Sailors and Airmen do today. As do our Coast Guardsmen.

Posted by: OhioCoastie at October 08, 2011 03:01 PM (roFKc)

13 Charlie, Charlie full of Graft, we won't go to your fascist draft!!

Posted by: Leftard Protest Chant that will Never Be Heard at October 08, 2011 03:02 PM (zhcFw)

14 He rolls out this reinstatement of the draft canard every time he needs some free press. It has zero chance of passing and he knows it.

Posted by: Vic at October 08, 2011 03:04 PM (M9Ie6)

15 How might Congress change their decisions concerning war if it were their sons and daughters being sent? I would say Congressmen like Reid and Pelosi might surrender our independence. THAT'S HOW.

Posted by: CoolCzech at October 08, 2011 03:04 PM (niZvt)

16 The repeal of DADT AND a draft?

Be as fabulous as you can be

Posted by: cherry pi, terrorist hostage taking SOB at October 08, 2011 03:04 PM (OhYCU)

17 You really need to know where Kaminski Park is to become a leader, too.

Posted by: Barry's World at October 08, 2011 03:05 PM (0It32)

18 I say we draft Rangel into the prison inmate corps - justice for his tax-cheating butt. You know how much liberals love "justice".

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at October 08, 2011 03:05 PM (21lBC)

In this day and age, there is a vacuum in the immediate and personal need for people to be concerned about these issues because they have nothing to lose -- no stake in the game

>>>> By this same token, the 50% of moochers who pay no taxes but endlessly clamor for the rich to pay "their fair share" also have no stake in the game, and need to pay higher taxes to rectify that.

Posted by: Trump at October 08, 2011 03:05 PM (hK2Ya)

20 How about we limit the draft to the sycophantic political class that doesn't even pay their taxes, Charlie?

Posted by: CoolCzech at October 08, 2011 03:05 PM (niZvt)

21 Frickin' aggravating. Steve Jobs drops dead, but the Charlie Rangels and George Soroses stick around like the clap.

Posted by: BuddyPC at October 08, 2011 03:07 PM (nSkOL)

22 18 I say we draft Rangel into the prison inmate corps - justice for his tax-cheating butt. You know how much liberals love "justice". Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at October 08, 2011 07:05 PM (21lBC) We could call it Tax Justice ("No Taxes, No Justice!"), Mon d'Afrique Cheri!

Posted by: CoolCzech at October 08, 2011 03:07 PM (niZvt)

20How about we limit the draft to the sycophantic political class that doesn't even pay their taxes, Charlie

>>> And uber-patriotic hollywood types. They wuv America so...

Posted by: Trump at October 08, 2011 03:07 PM (hK2Ya)

24 4 81 year old men can't be drafted. Posted by: cherry pi, terrorist hostage taking SOB at October 08, 2011 06:51 PM (OhYCU) Paint him orange and drag him behind a PT-17 at 9,000 feet. You'll see what one man can do, my friend.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 08, 2011 03:08 PM (UlUS4)

25 Duke Cunningham and John Murtha were both decorated veterans. That did not prevent them from degenerating into corrupt monsters.

Posted by: Wm T Sherman at October 08, 2011 03:09 PM (SYrAh)

26 Cholly wants to reinstate a draft at a time when we're about to leave both of the three theaters of war we're involved in and slash defense spending by how many billions? Yep, he's been talkin' to Biden.

Posted by: huerfano at October 08, 2011 03:09 PM (fecOD)

27 4 81 year old men can't be drafted. Posted by: cherry pi, terrorist hostage taking SOB at October 08, 2011 06:51 PM (OhYCU) Nowhere is it said they can't be Tarred & Feathered...

Posted by: CoolCzech at October 08, 2011 03:09 PM (niZvt)

28
If the Corps wants you to know where you're at, you would have been issued a map. Or a GPS device.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at October 08, 2011 03:10 PM (cYzZf)

29 By the way, I heard John Kerry served in Vietnam. Served his commie masters, that is.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 08, 2011 03:10 PM (UlUS4)

30 25 Duke Cunningham and John Murtha were both decorated veterans. That did not prevent them from degenerating into corrupt monsters. Posted by: Wm T Sherman at October 08, 2011 07:09 PM (SYrAh) Hell, even John Kerry was decorated, wasn't he? Pretty as a picture. Of Lurch.

Posted by: CoolCzech at October 08, 2011 03:10 PM (niZvt)

31 this tells ya the military's not with the Marxists. He needs more Hugo Chavezs in the pipeline

Posted by: Princetonprofessor at October 08, 2011 03:11 PM (9Tt1v)

Why does Charlie do this?

So the news can report "Congress is considering a bill that would reinstate the draft."

He knows it'll never pass. Last time, he even told his friends to vote against it. It's a stunt that won't hurt him.

Posted by: FireHorse at October 08, 2011 03:11 PM (gyHyY)

33
Charlie Rangel was a soldier and served in Korea.

On our side?

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 08, 2011 03:12 PM (/qkBU)

34 Speaking of Lurch Kerry, just how much hootch and what sort of porn does that man have to spent all night doing to get himself to mount Theresa in the wee hours of the morning to earn his keep, anyway?

Posted by: CoolCzech at October 08, 2011 03:12 PM (niZvt)

35 33 Charlie Rangel was a soldier and served in Korea. On our side? Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 08, 2011 07:12 PM (/qkBU) Not intentionally, I'm sure. Probably just kept shooting to save his tax-cheating ass.

Posted by: CoolCzech at October 08, 2011 03:13 PM (niZvt)

36 His constituents aren't brainwashed, they're braindead. Ignore him. The label on his ass says - for amusement purposes only-

Posted by: dr kill at October 08, 2011 03:13 PM (le5qc)

37 Charlie, Charlie, always smilin
Lives tax-free in the Virgin Islins

Posted by: pep at October 08, 2011 03:13 PM (6TB1Z)

38 Joined up with the Army in 1975, switched to the Navy in 1979 and retired. I do not want anyone in my squad or on my ship that is forced to be there. We had enough problems dealing with the volunteer slackers in my 22 years.

Posted by: Johnnyreb at October 08, 2011 03:14 PM (NNrYJ)

39 This is odd because just today I was wondering why I have not seen any "Stop the War" or "Get us out of Afganistan" signs among the unwashed. I always thought that whatever else they are complaining about that there would be a few anti war signs.

Posted by: chillin the most for Perry at October 08, 2011 03:16 PM (6IV8T)

A member of the House of Representives is a reflection of his/her district. I'm sure Charles Rangel represents his well. My congressman is James Moran.

OH GOD.....weeps

Posted by: stillers at October 08, 2011 03:18 PM (XG1L2)

41 I don't think the Cockupiers all buy what T Rangle is selling.

Posted by: soothie at October 08, 2011 03:19 PM (vanqS)

42 I think that knowing where something is on a map is a false standard.

I can know a lot of things about geo-political issues and culture and what is going on in the world and *why* without being able to be sure that I'm pointing to Afghanistan instead of Uzbekistan on a map.   I can know a whole lot about the History of Afghanistan, about Russian and English History there.   I can know it's mountainous and land-locked and that people tend to be Muslim and at least some of them speak Pashto.   I can know a whole lot about the Taliban and that Afghanistan shares a mountainous border with Pakistan.   I can know that we supply our forces overland through Pakistan. I can discuss the personalities and missteps involved between the US and Afghan president.

Knowing the map-geography does give some additional information, of course.

But it's simply not true that the map-location of Afghanistan is the *first* thing that anyone knows, like a doorkeeper to additional understanding.

(Actually, now I'm thinking of it... I wonder how many people who have been stationed in the country and fought there would miss it on a map.   They might know the interior quite well, even intimately, and still have to look twice or locate it only in relation to Pakistan.   Not finding it on an unmarked map means nothing at all.)

Posted by: Synova at October 08, 2011 03:23 PM (P0X9Q)

43 Student protests + draft talk = coincidence?

Posted by: Doc at October 08, 2011 03:28 PM (vvr5S)

44 Rangel, #occupyyourfuckinshinebox you twisted old fruit.

Posted by: sifty at October 08, 2011 03:33 PM (4CSeG)

I wonder if Cholly could have found Korea on a map before he went there.

For that matter, I wonder if he could do it now.

Posted by: gebrauchshund at October 08, 2011 03:37 PM (iYwUw)

46 I make it a habit to thank every single serviceman and woman for their sacrifice, and their service to the country.

Rangel is my sole exception.

Fuck you Chahlie.

Posted by: Unclefacts Out Of Commenting Retirement Just For This One Thing at October 08, 2011 03:37 PM (6IReR)

47 I can't wait until Chahlie Rangel and Susan Estrich come out with their next album of duets.

Gargling with Gravel was such a gem.

Posted by: sifty at October 08, 2011 03:41 PM (4CSeG)

48 edited by dave .. that is a despicable claim, and you may get the hell outta here now, Klansman anna

Posted by: anna at October 08, 2011 03:47 PM (CIcOf)

49 Rangel, #occupyyourfuckinshinebox rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrRRRRRAAAAAAA..... you know what, I don't even have the energy anymore.

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55 Imagine if we had a universal draft again- what huge group of young men would be entirely exempt from it and free to run around the country at will? The illegals- jeez I was just at a "Health Fair" in East L.A. today and for all the free stuff we throw at these people they'd have to be stupid NOT to come here-

Posted by: DAve at October 08, 2011 06:40 PM (FJVDe)

56 I think anyone who actually read the draft bills from the last major attempt in the 108th Congress would have no fear of reinstatement.

A close review of HR 163 (Rangel D-NY) and S 89 (Hollings D-SC) reveals the "twin" documents are not twins at all. But don't take my word for it, go to thomas.loc.gov and lookup HR.163 and S.89 from the 108th session and compare.

S.89 talks about "active duty and reserve" components while HR 163 talks about "active duty and reverse" components, in 5 different places. Yes, it says reverse (i.e. backward). The version of HR.163 that came to the floor of the House and was actually voted on, talks of "active duty and reverse" components. I don't know about you, but I assume that a reverse component would be in charge of retreats and surrenders (has a definite Democrat flair to it; reminds you of that Frenchmen John Kerry).

But from this, it is obvious that had the "twins" passed, there still would have been no draft. It is also obvious that nobody actually reads these bills.

By the way, Rangel's latest bill uses "reserve" but Hollings has retired so there is no "twin."

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58 Just a footnote, but there are plenty of assholes in the Army. Ask a soldier some day, and he'll tell ya.

Rangel was one of the assholes.

Posted by: Beverly at October 08, 2011 08:30 PM (AoIQr)

59 What percentage of Congress knows where Afghanistan is? I'm sure Charlie has already been over there checking out the tax-free mud-huts and caves.

Posted by: TWoPolitics at October 09, 2011 02:09 AM (YOZVY)

60 This is the lefty meme - they pound it on Morning Joe, trying to act like they truly give a crap about the military, while they {D's} do everything in their power to defund it. Sickening.

Posted by: Amy Shulkusky at October 09, 2011 03:29 AM (vGHzy)

61 Where's Monte Cassino?

Posted by: Bill_G at October 09, 2011 04:03 AM (HIbjt)

Very simply, it's the "Viet Nam Maneuver".

They can't get the average American to get excited about leaving (or not going to) Afgoofystan and Iraq because they not only don't have any family involved, 90% don't even KNOW someone in uniform.

In order to suck all the money out of the Treasury for buy votes from leeches and the incompetent they have to chop the military down to a couple of squads on the Presidential detail - window dressing. The Viet Nam Maneuver does this by using the draft to get more and more families involved directly. Then the anti-war protesters (read: Code Stink) can get some traction a la Viet Nam.

It's no more complicated than that. It sucks. It's un-American. But it's no more complicated than that.

Posted by: chuck in st paul at October 09, 2011 05:51 AM (EhYdw)

63 Just got into a huge argument with a friend of mine over this exact same issue. Wish I'd had this post a few days ago as confirmation for the points I had made.

Posted by: VaGal at October 09, 2011 06:43 AM (7pSU4)

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