1 phew........

2 Good.

3 Thank you, Governor Chrispy-Creme. Time to re-fill the donuts...

4 If the current field is not perfect, it is certainly crowded enough without Christie sucking the remaining of the oxygen out of the room.

5
Good²

6 He's a walking heart attack waiting to happen, anyway.

Plus, he's a RINO.

7 Dunno. What else would they say?

Ari Fleischer had a tweet saying his popularity is down in NJ. He probably won't be reelected. So it's now or never.

I don't know - I'm not sure how he's currently polling.

8 And Chaz Bono was so looking forward to hosting SNL.

9
Obama to Blacks: Rabble, Assemble!

10 dead locked convention baby

11 So when Palin gets in will there be a pudding thread here for us...?

For the record a pudding thread if she doesn't is fine by me too.

The day will be a hell of a read at this place though.

12 Sometimes people like hearing the truth.

I don't know about that.

13 Oh and Jennifer Rubin hardest hit.

Sheesh. That woman loves her some CC for a POTUS run.

14 Sounds like a solid "maybe" and possibly even a weak "probably" to me!

15 Ari Fleischer had a tweet saying his popularity is down in NJ. He probably won't be reelected. So it's now or never. I don't know - I'm not sure how he's currently polling. Posted by: lu at September 26, 2011 12:15 PM (pLTLS) I don't buy that. I'm from NJ and I think he would waltz back in if all things stay the same. Sure the teachers and some other unions are real vocal, but I think many voters for jooosey still are pretty happy with him.

16 That God we don't have to waste more time outing Fat Mitt the Gun grabbing Rino Prince.

17 Jewish janitors hardest hit.

18 I think He's doing a wonderful job where He is at.

Thank you Christie.

19 He's good right where he is. God Bless and keep him for a good man but he needs to step up his self-care.

20

I would have liked him to get in. I'd rather have a lot of good candidates(whether i agree with their policies or not).

As it stands, Perry and Romney are the only viable candidates.

The rest are just ankle biters and time wasters.

 

21 Now will people believe Christie is NOT running for prez?!!  Let. It.Go.

22

Many northeastern Republicans are using the conventional dating rules all men adhere to.

No means yes, and definitely no means probably or thinking about it.

23 Posted by: Ben at September 26, 2011 12:18 PM (wuv1c) Depends on your definition of "good."

24

Please. Enough now on 'Christie- will he or won't he?'

Same for Obuttmunch.

We're wasting pixels and electrons on both topics.

25 i wonder if scoamf would have said "take off your slippa's and put on your marchin' shoes" to a jewish audience........

26

We don't need another member of the circular firing squad right now. We need to be attacking Obama.

Christie is a squish on gun control, immigration, global warming, against drilling for oil, is leaning towards being against drilling for gas. We just don't need everyone shooting at the new kid on the block over his squish positions.

 

27 No Ann Coulter sockpuppet yet?

28

>>>Depends on your definition of "good."

 

Someone who could win at the national level.

I think Christie, Perry and Romney all could win at the national level. Regadless of what you think of their policies.

29 She will come from the north, a shotgun in one hand and a copy of the Constitution in the other. riding a Polar Bear named liberty.

30

truth is Chris Christie is the reason that "RINO" always get spelled out in caps, we had to make sure it was big enough to fit him...

 

31
They wanted me to go to Weight Watchers, I said no, no, no.

They wanted me to run for president, I said no, no, no, (wink-wink).

32 "Sometimes people like hearing the truth."

Maybe, but they don't like hearing that a particular candidate sounds stupid and unprepared.

I think that it speaks volumes about the current state of affairs among our political class that they can't memorize bullet points and spew them back to an audience.

Let's face it, there are no intellectual heavyweights among the current crop of contenders, and there aren't even any who are rhetorically nimble besides Newt.

33 Posted by: Ben at September 26, 2011 12:21 PM (wuv1c) And if the candidate wins at the national level, then what? Will he/she be Obama-lite? No thank you.

34 It is late for him to have gotten in, IMHO.

How is it that we've gotten into "____ was elected within the last two years and is kickin' a$$! ____ should run for President!" Talk about burning through your up-and-coming prospects for immediacy's sake.

35 Hey, the Dems ran a one-term senator and won.

Let's run Rubio.  He sure as hell won't fold in a debate like Rick Perry did, and he can spar with Romney and make him out to be the jerk he is.

36 No! Don't stop! Keep going! Don't stooooop!

37 I fail to see what the Christie draw is. Sure, he is great at attacking NJ teacher unions. He cut a bloated NJ budget...some.  Other than that, what else has he done?

He is made a lot of troubling statements just like Perry as well.

38

11So when Palin gets in will there be a pudding thread here for us...?

For the record a pudding thread if she doesn't is fine by me too.

The day will be a hell of a read at this place though.
-------

I like the word pudding and Palin in the same sentence. Pudding, Palin, & pole dancing would make a good sentence too.

39 There is a God.

40
The Truth?

Never heard of it.

41 Sometimes the truth "works. Ace has never been married. Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at September 26, 2011 12:22 PM (OWjjx) OOOh very true and that's sure to leave a mark

42 jimmah....you just want a pudding thread.....

43 Furthermore, I have no qualms whatsoever of how Rubio will come out in a one-on-one debate with the JEF.

44 I know that our picks of late have tended to kinda suck, but Christie has been in the limelight for what, a year? /

C'mon.  We can do better.  Let him govern.  Let him have a record to run (or not run) on before we start sucking at the dick of Mt. Christie.

45 Good! i'd like to see him get seasoned a little more as governor.

46 It's too late for the big man and it's too late for Sarah (who really should say "no" definitively if she wants to salvage her reputation). It's Romney, Perry, that short guy who likes gold, and whoever doesn't run out of money before March. That's how it should be.

47
And with that, there arose a great sad lowing from the rhino herd.

"Mmmmmuuuurrrrr"

48 Chris Christie, and no means no conjures up some shockingly repulsive scenes. Please never mention those two things in the same article ever again.

49 26

We don't need another member of the circular firing squad right now. We need to be attacking Obama.

Christie is a squish on gun control, immigration, global warming, against drilling for oil, is leaning towards being against drilling for gas. We just don't need everyone shooting at the new kid on the block over his squish positions.

 

Posted by: robtr at September 26, 2011 12:20 PM (MtwBb)

And don't forget he says we have no fears of sharia law here. 

50 Ace, When are you going to post something on those two assholes we just bailed out of Iran? I'm itchin' for some bitchin'.

51 The GOP doesn't need Mr Wonderful, they just need Mr Acceptable for the win.

52 I agree about the truth thing.  I liked how Gary Johnson approached the question about flights to Cuba.  Of all the non-sequiter questions they could have come up with, why that one to him, I dunno.

But anyway, he said, "well, I THINK I would support the flights, because trade makes friends......."  leaving it open, obviously to further information coming in, but making the point that with the relatively little that he knows about it at this point, this would be his judgement, instead of bullshitting some answer out.

Probably wasn't a subject he'd spent much time on, but he started with first principles "trade makes friends" and went from there.  If a candidate knows who they are, and has a firm grasp on their worldview, they don't have to know every detail about every possible situation ahead of time.  They apply first principles and their brand of common sense and can usually come up with a coherent, consistent approach to literally anything.

That's why it doesn't worry me if an executive isn't a policy wonk per se or doesn't have the names of every African head-of-state memorized.   What's needed is the knack to find talent to bring you facts, and the smarts to sort the facts efficiently, drill down to what is really important in the argument and disregard the rest, and then use good judgement to apply your principles to the facts.

That's what makes a good leader. 

53 Good. I hope this ends the speculation/wishcasting nonsense.

54
We could do a lot better wih fantasy prez candidates than Gov Christie.

For instance: Mike Pence.

55 49 And with that, there arose a great sad lowing from the rhino herd. "Mmmmmuuuurrrrr" Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 26, 2011 12:25 PM (EeYDk) Rhinos sound like cattle?

56 New CNN poll: Perry up 6, post-debate.

57 33
Let's face it, there are no intellectual heavyweights among the current crop of contenders, and there aren't even any who are rhetorically nimble besides Newt.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at September 26, 2011 12:22 PM (LH6ir)

Given the state of this country's education system and its products, matters and candidates by and large will only go downhill from here. There will be an outstanding person or two who will seek public office, but most will be of the nanosecond attention span types we now see texting, tweeting and facebooking at all times and to little avail.

58 CHRIS CHRISTIE IS A MUSLIM-LOVING GUN-GRABBING IMMIGRANT-BOOSTING NORTHEASTERN RINO SCUMBAG FAT SACK OF SHIT.  I'LL VOTE OBAMA OVER AN EVIL FAKE CONSERVATIVE LIKE HIM.  BETTER TO TAKE THE COUNTRY OFF THE CLIFF FASTER.

59 ...(and it would have worked for Perry, too): Try the truth.


Maybe Perry has, and that is my fear when it comes to his 'heartless' and 'err on the side of life' comments.


As for Christie, I've cooled on him.  He is a fiscal cleaning powerhouse, but he is too much of a nanny stater just like many we already have running.

60 51 Good news for us. Means he won't be coming here to campaign for our convention delegates. Phew. Posted by: Guam at September 26, 2011 12:27 PM (Zs83Q) Just make sure if he does come, you place him on the right side of the island.

61 What is wrong with saying, shortly after you've gotten in, "I don't yet have a good answer to that question. I'm still being briefed. I know that presidential candidates are supposed to come out of the box with positions on everything, but frankly, that's just not true. It requires some prepping and thinking, and I confess I haven't yet come to a good conclusion on this issue."

Or, "I used to know the answer to that question but I forgot it.  Sorry."

62
Shit, Mitch Daniels is a more attractive candidate than Gov Christie.

Tim Pawlenty, even,

63 59 New CNN poll: Perry up 6, post-debate. Posted by: MaxMBJ at September 26, 2011 12:28 PM (deaac) "Up" in what context? Over Bambi or over the next candidate in the GOP field? Link please.

64 Romney seems to be an intellectual heavyweight. Or at least a cruiserweight.

65 We could do a lot better wih fantasy prez candidates than Gov Christie.

Ok, I'll run.

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66 Christie is a RINO.
He is great for NJ.
A Mistake for Prez.
How about Cain winning straw poll in FL..   Hahaha.... I like Cain.  It aint over til the MamaGriz growls..

67 What is wrong with saying, shortly after you've gotten in, "I don't yet have a good answer to that question. I'm still being briefed. Didn't Herman Cain try that...

68

>>>I fail to see what the Christie draw is. Sure, he is great at attacking NJ teacher unions. He cut a bloated NJ budget...some. Other than that, what else has he done?

His draw is exactly what Perry has failed at, the ability to articulate ideas and concepts in a way that anyone can understand.

That and he's been fairly successfuly in getting cuts in a dyed in the wool blue state.

I should note that I think he's a bit liberal on a lot of issues that matter to me, however I'm not going to pretend he doesn't have any appeal or qualifications.

69 67 Romney seems to be an intellectual heavyweight. Or at least a cruiserweight. Posted by: ace at September 26, 2011 12:29 PM (nj1bB) He's smart enough, I just wish he didn't come off like a used car salesman.

70 >>>Romney seems to be an intellectual heavyweight. Or at least a cruiserweight.

RINO.

71 51 guam ok.....that was funny

72 Romney seems to be an intellectual heavyweight weathervane.

Fixed

73 BECAUSE WE CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!

Yeah, I'd have liked him to get in for the kicking @ss and taking names perception I have of him, but I don't think he'd be the answer to stopping the creeping blight of nannying us to death.

74 Christie will doubtless throw his weight behind Romney. That is an image I would now like to forget.

75 1. We shouldn't let our current micro-panic make us eat our seed corn. Christie needs time to achieve a record of success in NJ.

2. His positions on environmental regulation are, frankly, disqualifying in the present situation. The EPA needs to be reigned in and/or eliminated. Is Christie the man to do it? Not hardly.

76 Posted by: In before the True Cons at September 26, 2011 12:28 PM (D9z3D)

Why are you yelling? We already know you are an asshole.

77 72 Chris Christie is a RINO! Everyone who lives in New Jersey is a RINO! Anyone who can spell either New Jersey or Chris Christie is a RINO!
Posted by: The commentor who calls everyone and everything a RINO at September 26, 2011 12:31 PM (OWjjx)

New Jersey is a World Heritage RINO Preserve!

78 Romney seems to be an intellectual heavyweight. Or at least a cruiserweight.

Posted by: ace at September 26, 2011 12:29 PM (nj1bB)

Well, he's been campaigning for 5 + years, so he should be good at it by now.

I'm not impressed with his record when he was actually in politics.  That's his problem.

79
The best thing that Gov Christie offers is (which is the same thing Rudy offers) the "Fuck me?? Nooooo, fuck you" attitude that we desperately need in the GOP.

80 79 Christie will doubtless throw his weight behind Romney. That is an image I would now like to forget. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 26, 2011 12:32 PM (UlUS4) Not to mention the broken bones...

81 I should note that I think he's a bit liberal on a lot of issues that matter to me, however I'm not going to pretend he doesn't have any appeal or qualifications. Posted by: Ben at September 26, 2011 12:31 PM (wuv1c) His best qualification? He is very fast on his feet ( no pun intended) and would destroy the present Republicans in a debate and also that prick in the White House.

82 Posted by: joncelli at September 26, 2011 12:29 PM (RD7QR)

11 months before the convention? It may as well be the length of his erection.

83

>>>I'm not impressed with his record when he was actually in politics. That's his problem.

Indeed. If he had Perry's record on jobs, or Walker's on entitlement reform, I would be going door to door for Romney.

He's a decent candidate in terms of campaigning, speech giving and debating. It's the substance that bothers me.

84 Other than fat, what's squishy about Christie? I know Mark Levin doesn't like him. I just don't know why. I know teachers don't like him and that's a lot of fun.

85
My friends, for a small donation to my general coffers, I will mail you a red, white and blue, zircon encrusted clothespin for your nose, to be used at your discretion on November 6th, 2012.

Posted by: John McCain at September 26, 2011 12:32 PM (vbh31)

Okay.  That's funny.  Sad and true, but funny.

86 13 Oh and Jennifer Rubin hardest hit.

Sheesh. That woman loves her some CC for a POTUS run.


Her opinion changes according to which policy person is being pressed to run in a given month. 

87

""We don't need another member of the circular firing squad right now. We need to be attacking Obama.""

This.

 I like what christie is doing here in jersey, but the dude is a fucking RINO. Jersey is already a lost cause, its a state that has a minimum of 5-6 cities filled with obama voters. We'll never get less restrictive gun laws, or a laundry list of other cool things thanks to those shitholes. I would not wish that on the rest of the country. Christie if anything is a fat herman cain, you might get some financial relieve, but not a damn thing more.

88 44, I don't know if she will or won't. But if she does, She is right on the issues, she has class and grace, and she has an army of Red State Psychos willing to work there asses off to make it happen. I and a couple of million others could give two fucks what the supposed smart people say. I'm sure those smart people didn't count on Perry standing on a stage, not being able to put together a coherent statement on any subject. If she doesn't. Mt second choice has went from Bachman to Perry to Cain. The only thing I know for sure is it will never be Romney. OK, start the bashing. Just know, we are here, and there are many of us and we are not going anywhere.

89 Link to CNN poll: http://tinyurl.com/3pxe4wp

90 What is wrong with saying, shortly after you've gotten in, "I don't yet have a good answer to that question. I'm still being briefed.

Didn't Herman Cain try that...

Posted by: tasker at September 26, 2011 12:30 PM (rJVPU)

I knew somebody was pilloried for that exact thing.

Not to mention the various gotcha media questions about who is president of Nowhereistan that the Media likes trotting out every cycle.

91 I love Christie and would certainly vote for him if Perry was not running, but I don't think it's his year. The mood of the party is not right for a Christie run and he has so much to do in New Jersey still.  

92 Here's where Christie went astray: he allowed himself to be re-educated on global warming. Unforgiveable offense.

93 you know that clothes pin idea would be pretty clever.....i wish i felt like we wouldn't need to hold our noses...yet again...but i'd totally go to the polls with a red white and blue zircon encrusted clothes pin...i won't give another dime to mccain though.....asshole.....

94 It aint over til the MamaGriz growls..

Posted by: I am the Walrus at September 26, 2011 12:30 PM (dh5Eu)

Oh, spare us your masturbatory fantasies about Sarah Palin. After her every appearance. Palinistas all across the country retire to their parents' basements to wack off to the suggestive photos of Sarah that they carefully clip out of the newspaper.

95 who does levin like? who does savage like?

96

Indeed. If he had Perry's record on jobs, or Walker's on entitlement reform, I would be going door to door for Romney.

He's a decent candidate in terms of campaigning, speech giving and debating. It's the substance that bothers me.

Posted by: Ben at September 26, 2011 12:34 PM (wuv1c)

Exactly.  I'm asking the Romney supporters to show me why the conservative base should be excited about him and getting nothing of substance.  He needs the base along with Indies, but he has nothing fiscally conservative to fall back on.  Just the same old squishy leftist pandering and "what they want to hear" politics.  I'm really quite tired of that.

97

Sometimes the truth "works.

Ace has never been married.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at September 26, 2011 12:22 PM (OWjjx)

No shit!

98

What is wrong with saying, shortly after you've gotten in, "I don't yet have a good answer to that question. I'm still being briefed. I know that presidential candidates are supposed to come out of the box with positions on everything, but frankly, that's just not true. It requires some prepping and thinking, and I confess I haven't yet come to a good conclusion on this issue."

 

Essentially how Jesse Ventura won the governorship of Minnesota.

99 95 I know Mark Levin doesn't like him. I just don't know why ... Maybe cause Mark Levin is an angry person who doesn't like very many people? Posted by: Mallamutt Levin's anger is his gift. He can go from soft tone to full rant in under 10 seconds.

100 I had a long talk w/my brother yesterday. He's in a conservative stronghold in a suburb outside the city. Not a lot of politically active folks but they just started neighborhood Tea Party. He, like a lot of folks, watched the debates on Thurs and asked if I had started smoking dope. He was so turned off by Perry. I had to walk that back a bit. Anyway, he said a lot of the folks @ their first TP meeting were talking up Christie. Most of them wanted him to run and were pretty turned off by the other choices. Cain got some love but they were concerned that he'd never run a campaign.

101 ABBO: Any Body But Obama

102 who does the left hate the most? that's who i'll vote for......

103

Oh, spare us your masturbatory fantasies about Sarah Palin. After her every appearance. Palinistas all across the country retire to their parents' basements to wack off to the suggestive photos of Sarah that they carefully clip out of the newspaper.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at September 26, 2011 12:37 PM (LH6ir)

Jeez, can you guys realize that they are doing it just to yank your chain?

If you can't make a funny comeback, you should just drop it.

104 >>>who does levin like?

Mark Levin likes Orrin Hatch.  Yet dislikes Chris Christie.

You figure it out.

105 OK, start the bashing. Just know, we are here, and there are many of us and we are not going anywhere.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at September 26, 2011 12:35 PM (ZDUD4)

The "class" part of your comment is debatable, but I certainly agree that there are many Palin supporters, many of whom are energized.

But there aren't enough of you to elect her president.

106 101 who does levin like? who does savage like? Posted by: phoenixgirl at September 26, 2011 12:37 PM (eOXTH) Levin has not committed yet. He's definitely pissed at the circular firing squad debates and the fact that no one is going after King Putt. Puts no stock in conventional wisdom that Perry or Romney is the front runner and we can all go home now. We still have 13 months. For sure, he hates anything RINO. Savage I do not listen to.

107 who does the left hate the most? that's who i'll vote for......

Posted by: phoenixgirl at September 26, 2011 12:39 PM (eOXTH)

This week it is asthmatics.  I'm not sure who their candidate is.

108 Bob Dole's calendar is free...

109

But there aren't enough of you to elect her president.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at September 26, 2011 12:39 PM (LH6ir)

Then you should drop the god damn bile every day.

110 ABBO: Any Body But Obama

Posted by: nevergiveup at September 26, 2011 12:38 PM (i6RpT)

How about this body?

Perry! Perry!

111 Good point on canidates speaking the truth, Ace. My thoughts are of a simular vein. That is one good thing about when sh!t goes South; people start voting in individuals who can lead, and  not who can merely kiss the most babies.

112 112, Nope, but if she is the last one standing, are you going to vote for Obama? Stay home? I'll vote for Romney, I hate the phony prick, but if it's him or Obama, I put my shit aside and do whats right.

113

>>>The EPA needs to be reigned in and/or eliminated. Is Christie the man to do it? Not hardly.

New Jersey isn't Wyoming. We have brownfields here that you wouldn't fly over in a Kevlar hazmat suit. The EPA is about the only way we have to get this mess cleaned up, and the Big Man knows it.

I think the EPA has wandered far from their brief, but you still need them in these urban shitholes.

114

Levin can be a bit of a douche. His whole anger schtick can get tiring. He like Hannity because how can you not like Hannity. He's like the retarded runt puppy. He's cute, playful and nice. You may not care about his opinion or listen to his show, but it's hard to hate him. You're more indifferent.

 

As for Savage, who knows. I haven't listened to him in years. There are times where he'll take diametrically opposite opinions on the same issue in the same sentence.

115 I honestly think the winds are shifting Cain's way. He moved from implausible to hmm Saturday. Next step: maybe. By December it'll be full bore sloganeering. Something like "Cain's no McCain"

116

Good, we need him here. Despite his misgivings. Gun grabber/Eco-leaner (both remain to be seen) NJ is still in deep shit.

 

117 113 For sure, he hates anything RINO. Savage I do not listen to.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 26, 2011 12:40 PM (UlUS4)

I listen to Savage from time to time. As best I can tell, he's taken the "a pox on all their houses" position.

118 Anyone that listens to Savage is a masochist. All he does is yell at the people that actually give him rating. I have no idea how people can listen to that shit.

119 Chris Christie or Sarah Palin?

Who's the bigger tease?

120 Is it just the guys making the - "Ace has never been married" crack? Lie and you die. It's a simple motto , really.

121 Chris Christie or Sarah Palin?

Who's the bigger tease?

Posted by: EC at September 26, 2011 12:43 PM (GQ8sn)

Christie by about 150 pounds.

122 Posted by: Oldcat at September 26, 2011 12:39 PM (z1N6a)

Uh, and we yank right back.

123 By December it'll be full bore sloganeering. Something like "Cain's no McCain"

Posted by: MaxMBJ at September 26, 2011 12:42 PM (deaac)

Really? We just had a thread where Cain was calling on Republicans to be civil to Democrats....

124 Oh, spare us your masturbatory fantasies about Sarah Palin. After her every appearance. Palinistas all across the country retire to their parents' basements to wack off to the suggestive photos of Sarah that they carefully clip out of the newspaper.

Or save them for the ONT, "Leave boots and glasses on, Sarah"

125 Hannity's schtick gets old to me. Sometimes it seems like the rap on Elvis #248 in the Elvis impersonators' extravaganza ... he's just going through the motions.

126 Perry is a disappointment.  A life long pol who can't waltz all over super RINO Mittens.  It's still a long road, at this point of the last prez election cycle, Her Majesty WhatsherNameWithFatAnklesInPantsuits was all but certain to be the dem nominee, until she was undercut by a young chicago punk who played dirty in the caucus states...   Funniest thing about that is that there are boatloads of dems who remember well and will vote ABO for revenge.  Those dems aint staying home.

127 127, What 9% Vat?

128 His draw is exactly what Perry has failed at, the ability to articulate ideas and concepts in a way that anyone can understand.

How do we know? He hasn't had one of these "debates" yet. How will he respond when Chris Wallace asks him to explain his conflicting stance on AGW in less than 30 sec? How will he explain his 50 point financial recovery plan that Mitt Romney has in less than 30 sec?

This is what I simply don't seem to get folks here to understand. These debates are designed to make Republicans step on their dicks. Particularly the non-Romney Republicans.

129

I think Chrisie knows he has little chance of winning the GOP nomination b/c he is socially liberal.  His entrance would basically split Romney's vote more than anything else.

I think he is keeping his name/face in the picture as a shot for VP - which I think is a valid possibility.  He would make a great attack dog and could (big, huge maybe) put NJ or other NE states into play.

I think Christie's only real hope at ever getting the nomination is to win it from the Veep spot.  Otherwise, he is going to have to flip-flop on a lot of issues, a la Romney, to have a chance in the GOP primary.  And, he doesn't want to do that while he still may be interested in other NJ state-wide positions (re-election as Gov, U.S. Senate).

I like Christie and think he'd make a good president, but I think the social positions kill him in the GOP primary.  Personally, I'm always leery of the fiscal conservative / social liberal politician.  I myself am not a huge social conservative, but I have noticed that the Fiscal conservative/ social liberal types are the ones who tend to "grow" in office (i.e., lurch leftward). 

130 I'm still convinced that Michael Savage is a liberal doing a life-long performance art schtick/joke that clowns on conservatives.  I don't think he believes a single word he says.

131 Christie by about 150 pounds.

I think you're off by another 100 pounds.

132 Uh, and we yank right back.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at September 26, 2011 12:44 PM (LH6ir)

Not really

133

>>>Anyone that listens to Savage is a masochist. All he does is yell at the people that actually give him rating. I have no idea how people can listen to that shit.

Believe it or not, he was fairly entertaining at one point in time. I think his biggest appeal is to older men who listen to him because he reminds them of their since passed fathers or grandfathers.

As I said above, I haven't listened to him in years, so I'm not sure what the appeal is anymore.

134 i can't listen to hannity....

135 "Christie by about 150 pounds. Posted by: Oldcat" Seriously? Christie's got to weight 325. Palin, oh, maybe 125. Do the math.

136 Telling the truth is less complicated. Lying is for the super smart folks that can keep their story straight like- oh.... Obama and...... that super suave guy on "our side." In fact lying works for blondes with big boobs and.... Tall, wasp and handsome.

137

I think the EPA has wandered far from their brief, but you still need them in these urban shitholes.

Posted by: spongeworthy at September 26, 2011 12:41 PM (rplL3)

Total crap.  The EPA is a huge danger to America, and pointing to a few real problems in the vast collection of fake sites just proves the point.

138 133 Hannity's schtick gets old to me. Sometimes it seems like the rap on Elvis #248 in the Elvis impersonators' extravaganza ... he's just going through the motions.

Hannity got old on me 2 years ago. Use to listen to Steve Marlzberg but WOR replace him with David Patterson!

139 Meanwhile, back at the - our current CIC is campaigning and taking gullible rich people's money and taking questions from Lady Gaga like this .
(from Pajamas Media)

ABO.   

140 143, I was told there would be no MATH!!!!

141 @136
Yep.

142 In fact lying works for blondes with big boobs and....

THIS!

143 Hannity's schtick gets old to me. Sometimes it seems like the rap on Elvis #248 in the Elvis impersonators' extravaganza ... he's just going through the motions.

Posted by: MaxMBJ at September 26, 2011 12:44 PM (deaac)

I can't watch Hannity.  He just is not that bright.  He usually gets taken to the cleaners by any half-way intelligent liberal.  I agree with Hannity, but he is not a really smart guy.  He can't really do more than hit the talking points.

144 How do we know? He hasn't had one of these "debates" yet. How will he respond when Chris Wallace asks him to explain his conflicting stance on AGW in less than 30 sec? How will he explain his 50 point financial recovery plan that Mitt Romney has in less than 30 sec? This is what I simply don't seem to get folks here to understand. These debates are designed to make Republicans step on their dicks. Particularly the non-Romney Republicans. Posted by: Vic at September 26, 2011 12:44 PM (M9Ie6) The same way he told a teacher here in NJ at a public meeting who complained she could not support herself on her pay, that he would help her pack her desk and move is she thinks she can do better elsewhere. He is very nimble and is not afraid to call a spade a spade, so to speak

145 138 I'm still convinced that Michael Savage is a liberal doing a life-long performance art schtick/joke that clowns on conservatives.  I don't think he believes a single word he says.
Posted by: Jeff B. at September 26, 2011 12:45 PM (D9z3D)

He does when he's touting his books - "Abuse of Power is at #4 on the NYT's Best Sellers' List!"

146 Seriously? Christie's got to weight 325. Palin, oh, maybe 125. Do the math.

Eleventy-Hundred? Math is HARD!

147 96 Oldcat Ya I think Ace might be teeing us up....for the 9 iron.

148 Posted by: Monkeytoe at September 26, 2011 12:48 PM (sOx93) Hannity ain't Rush (or Levin). Good when reading a script, but off the cuff he sucks. No idea how to win a debate, most maddeningly against the liberal assholes he puts on the air.

149 Levin likes anyone who calls him Great One, Palin and Hannity. His Christie tone sounds like someone emailed pix of Christie in Olberman's bathtub. Just curious. I'd like to see that. Does all this internet love mean Christie is not squishy enough to fit in Olberman's tub?

150

Then you should drop the god damn bile every day.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 26, 2011 12:41 PM (z1N6a)

Bile? You call that bile? Just wait until that reality show drama queen from the northern wastelands declares for president. Then you will see bile, but not here. It will come from every major newspaper, every major TV news channel, and it will be unrelenting. Much of it will be unfair, and some of it will be lies, but it will destroy her.

151  I'm still convinced that Michael Savage is a liberal doing a life-long performance art schtick/joke that clowns on conservatives.  I don't think he believes a single word he says.

Posted by: Jeff B. at September 26, 2011 12:45 PM (D9z3D)

I don't know if I think he is a liberal, but he is definitely doing a character and total schtick.  I can't listen to him, it is all schtick.  I doubt very much that he believes 1/2 of what he says, or at least, doesn't believe it with nearly the passion he puts on.

152 EC Ya and I'm pretty sure Ace doesn't have either...

153 The same way he told a teacher here in NJ at a public meeting who complained she could not support herself on her pay, that he would help her pack her desk and move Holy shit, he out witted a public school teacher. Make that man President. Seriously, I am a Teacher, it aint that hard.

154 Hannity got old on me 2 years ago. Use to listen to Steve Marlzberg but WOR replace him with David Patterson! Posted by: The Robot Devil at September 26, 2011 12:46 PM (136wp) Went to school with Steve Malzberg. Good guy and pretty sharp when it comes to the issues. Replaced by David Patterson is an insult.

155 I don't go as far as Vic in this as I think debates matter. I just don't think they mean *everything*. Actually I don't think they mean much, but they mean something.

Clear as mud, eh?

156 The reason conversatives drool over Christie is quite simple: he can talk. This is our achilles heel, though I don't know why it has to be so. We can't talk, at least not on stage, not under pressure, not like Obama. My guess is 90% of the animosity towards Palin is rooted in her voice, her accent, her sentence structure style. Even our pundits, if you're honest about it, aren't good talkers. Limbaugh? Only when he's in his bunker. And even then, he can become a stuttering fool. Krauthammer? He is a stuttering, well, definitely not a fool but he has a stuttering problem. Fred uh, er, uh, Barnes? Steven Hayes is one of the exceptions and that's why he's a rising star. Reagan could talk, but he also could flop. Fact is, though, we do need someone who can talk in public. I saw Mitch Daniels on Greta the other night and I was shocked by how much he stumbled around. Books have been written on the power of the man of words in the African-American community. Look at how many preachers sit atop that culture: Jackson, Sharpton, Farrahkan, ML King, even Malcolm X. Cain is our talker. That's why I think he's going to get the nod. I'm done.

157

Bile? You call that bile? Just wait until that reality show drama queen from the northern wastelands declares for president. Then you will see bile, but not here. It will come from every major newspaper, every major TV news channel, and it will be unrelenting. Much of it will be unfair, and some of it will be lies, but it will destroy her.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at September 26, 2011 12:50 PM (LH6ir)

You have this on a hotkey, dude?

158 This is terrible news! Someone give me a piece of thread so I can hang myself!

159

What is wrong with saying, shortly after you've gotten in, "I don't yet have a good answer to that question. I'm still being briefed "]/quote]

Nothing in theory, but in practice ones milage may vary. ISTR you ripped Cain a new one for giving that very answer.

160 166, CBD, there is not a hell of a lot more they can do to her.

161 I'm so beside myself over this that I'm going to binge on pictures of fattening food!

162 Cain Marco Rubio is our talker. That's why I think he's going to get the nod.

You were 99% right on everything you said. Except for Cain. See the post below.

163 Christie has pretty much painted himself into a corner here.  If he gets in now, his word will always be questioned in the future.

Nope, Christie stays out.

No one seems to be considering this but, maybe he just doesn't want to be POTUS.  Brutal job, pay sucks and rough as hell on the family.  He may also feel a responsibility to the good people of NJ.

I'm not a HUGE fan of Romney, but a Romney/Rubio ticket is looking awfully compelling and well-balanced.  I'd pull the lever for that easily.

164 Seriously, I am a Teacher, it aint that hard.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at September 26, 2011 12:50 PM (ZDUD4)

LMAO!

165 Books have been written on the power of the man of words in the African-American community. Look at how many preachers sit atop that culture: Jackson, Sharpton, Farrahkan, ML King, even Malcolm X.

Cain is our talker. That's why I think he's going to get the nod.

I'm done.

Posted by: MaxMBJ at September 26, 2011 12:52 PM (deaac)

Maybe that community needs people who can act rather than talk

166 Went to school with Steve Malzberg. Good guy and pretty sharp when it comes to the issues. Replaced by David Patterson is an insult.

I'll have to see if another broadcast station picks him up. WOR is the same station that got rid of Beck's radio show. Must have had a change in management. Can't imagine what their ratings are now...

167 Holy shit, he out witted a public school teacher. Make that man President. Seriously, I am a Teacher, it aint that hard. Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at September 26, 2011 12:50 PM (ZDUD4) It's not only that he can outwit a Teacher, but he is not afraid to call bullshit bullshit.

168 The same way he told a teacher here in NJ at a public meeting who complained she could not support herself on her pay, that he would help her pack her desk and move is she thinks she can do better elsewhere. He is very nimble and is not afraid to call a spade a spade, so to speak

He wasn't limited to a 30 sec sound bite in responding to that scrunt.

169

The truth would win but telling the truth seems to never occur to either the candidates or their high-powered strategists. The truth is fairly straightforward: Obama and the people surrounding him are hardcore, old-school socialists, AGW is a lie, the stimulus was a gargantuan payoff to the Democratic Party's base, and the fiscal policies advocated by the Obama Administration are unsustainable even in the short-term. But telling that truth is only part of the problem. Some of the GOP candidates have major shortcomings, and those shortcomings need to be addressed.

Take Mitt Romney, for example. He and his people no doubt plan for every contingency, rehearse responses to every possible press query or debate scenario, conduct meticulous, multi-layered reviews of polling and focus group data, perform in-depth analyses of electoral maps, and so on. You know how Romney could win? He could deal head-on with why he does so badly at press-the-flesh and kiss-the-baby politicking.

ROMNEY: Hi, I'm Mitt Romney and I'm a candidate for President of the United States. Some of you voted against me in past primary and gubenatorial campaigns, and I think I know why. Truth is, I don't connect well with people. I never have. It isn't that I don't like people. I do. I like nearly everyone I meet. I just don't deal well with most of you on a one-to-one basis. I'm not good at small talk. Small talk bores me. Like I said, I'm not good at it and--even worse--I'm not good at faking it, either.

So let's cut the small-talk and get to the point: if you want ideas, I'm your guy. If you want smart and capable, that's me. President Obama went to Harvard. So did I--and unlike him, I'll even show you my transcripts because--unlike him--I'm not ashamed of my grades...

And so on. It would work.

170 Thank you Monkeytoe for #137. I'll go look at his social positions.

171 hmmm. Christie was an attorney general for the state-of course he can debate! However he anti gun and pro abortion,deal breakers in the must win south

172 MaxMBJ Hmmmm... I wonder if that's an effect of having the media as an enemy for years. Or, well someone told me they had a theory that Conservatives are just not attracted to journalism... Maybe you are correct; we suck at the wordy wordy..

173 The Coulter sockpuhpet is morbidly funneh.  I feel badly for laughing and I denounce myself, but great job!    

174 He wasn't limited to a 30 sec sound bite in responding to that scrunt. Posted by: Vic at September 26, 2011 12:55 PM (M9Ie6) He came back at her very quick and right to the point. Actually it was a 39 sec sound bite. But the point is he can think on his feet and talks pretty plain and direct english.

175 "Maybe that community needs people who can act rather than talk Posted by: Oldcat" Point taken but not just about the A-A community. Humankind, I submit, is seduced by the man of words. In the Bible, David was such a man ... but he was also a warrior. Warrior-poet. That's what we need. But don't discount the poet part.

176

You have this on a hotkey, dude?

Posted by: Oldcat at September 26, 2011 12:52 PM (z1N6a)

Funny.

It gets a bit tedious hearing the same thing every single day about how wonderful Palin is and how she has this grand, inscrutably clever plan to wow us all into voting for her for president.

She is a fucking politician with a great rack and a fine backside. She has some extremely attractive general policy positions, and a seemingly honest and fervent love for this country. I think everyone on this blog would stipulate to this

But...she has huge negatives that she hasn't done much to reduce, and it is pretty damned late in the game.

177 "I'm still convinced that Michael Savage is a liberal doing a life-long performance art schtick/joke that clowns on conservatives.  I don't think he believes a single word he says."

THIS!

I've felt this way for years. I'm not generally a big fan of the "this guy doesn't really believe what he's saying" shtick that liberals in particular like to occasionally try on Limbaugh, but I've long thought that Savage sounds more like a parody of a right wing extremist than the real thing.

He seems more like a WWE version of a talkradio host rather than a genuine conservative.

178 I don't go as far as Vic in this as I think debates matter. I just don't think they mean *everything*. Actually I don't think they mean much, but they mean something.

I think they men something, but it is mostly the Republican Party is going to have to find some other way to do debates that bypasses the MFM.

179 175 134 127, What 9% Vat?

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at September 26, 2011 12:44 PM (ZDUD4)

9 9 9 plan

9% personal tax rate

9% corporate tax rate

9% National sales tax (VAT)

No state taxes?

180 Seriously, if liberals weren't constantly throwing food at me I would have died from anorexia back in 1999.

181 The MSM wants to pick the nominee, and FL just told them to shove it.
I like that.  Can you imagine a SCOAMF vs Cain debate?  SCOAMF's entire campaign strategy would collapse, how could he shriek "RAAAAAACIST"?

182 175, You might want to look into that. It's not a vat, it's a Federal sales tax.

183 He wasn't limited to a 30 sec sound bite in responding to that scrunt.

Posted by: Vic at September 26, 2011 12:55 PM (M9Ie6)

Yes, because he is politically aware and understands that he can be easily ambushed in somebody else's venue. That's why he has been successful nationally. He is very careful when and where he speaks, and only seems to be off-the-cuff because it is planned well and he is, in fact, an excellent speaker with a nimble mind.

184

I don't go as far as Vic in this as I think debates matter. I just don't think they mean *everything*. Actually I don't think they mean much, but they mean something.

Clear as mud, eh?

To me, in the primaries the debates tell us how principaled their conservative positions are - if they stupid things that aren't conservative, it hurts them (like Perry's "if you have a heart" comment).

Also, the primary debates are good toward sizing up how a candidate will fare against Obama in a debate.  Again, at this point that hurts Perry.  I am not panicking on that, yes Perry has been bad, but I think he is still new to the national stage and these debates and will improve.  He probably will nevere become as smooth as Romney, b/c Romney has been preparing for this for more than 5 years.  If Perry doesn't improve dramatically, then that will kill his chances for the nomination.  We simply cannot have a nominee that is going to get creamed by Obama in teh debates in teh general election.

the other thing that debates do, is effect media and pundit coverage of the candidate.  The better and more credible a candidate seems in a debate, the more the media treats him like a credible, serious candidate.

However, as far as having a direct impact on primary voters, I doubt teh primary debates directly swing votes much more than 1-2%, if that.  they simply aren't watched by that many, and those who do watch, probably already have a candidate they support and the debate doesn't generally change that.

185 Chris Christie: NoToo bad;  I had hoped his entry would split the Romney vote so that Palin could get in safely, without too badly splitting the conservative vote.

186

Charlie Brown's Dildo: Perfect reactionary response. The EPA is a danger to America so it follows that Christie should, as governor of our state, be seeking to rein them in.

I suppose you have the money to do this:

http://tinyurl.com/od8bx8

187 Savage was quite taken with Trump.  I think culture (New York) overcame his ideology there.

188 I think they men something, but it is mostly the Republican Party is going to have to find some other way to do debates that bypasses the MFM.

What I said the other day was that I would be concerned if he was tongue-tied during every townhall, meet & greet, and interview he did. That would make him unfit for the national stage.

As it is, I'm not happy with debate #3 but I really think that people are overreacting to debate #1 and debate #2. I think expectations were way too high on #1 and then even more on #2 when he, once again, didn't "knock it out of the park".

ps...good to see you as the top commenter last week

189 I hear those deep-pocket establishment Republicans offered Christie his very own Dairy Queen. Christie was offended. He asked them, "but what if I'm outta town?" Seriously, what DO the New World Order fella's see in Christie that makes him so attractive to them?

190 We would learn more about Romney if he would answer a yes or no question. But then he would have to tell the truth. We can't have that now can we?

191 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at September 26, 2011 12:58 PM (LH6ir)

You have written 20 times as much about her in this post than anyone else.

192 Seriously, if liberals weren't constantly throwing food at me I would have died from anorexia back in 1999.

Hol.E.Shit.

Funneh stuff, right there!

193 Maybe you are correct; we suck at the wordy wordy..

Posted by: tasker at September 26, 2011 12:56 PM (rJVPU)

 

I beg your pardon.  Take that back!

194 We already have enough moderates in the race.  Christie can do us more good where he is.

195 ***yanking chain***Plus, Romney seems kind of boring.  You'd want to bring a pillow to one of his press conferences so you could take a snooze.***running away***

Yes, Vic, congratulations for top commenter spot! 

196

The reason conversatives drool over Christie is quite simple: he can talk. This is our achilles heel, though I don't know why it has to be so. We can't talk, at least not on stage, not under pressure, not like Obama. My guess is 90% of the animosity towards Palin is rooted in her voice, her accent, her sentence structure style

I'm guessing the reason conservatives generally don't sound that good is that it is much easier to sell b.s. about how the gov't is going to solve all your problems than it is to sell the ideas of personal responsibility, liberty (i.e., having to face teh consequences of your own choices) and allowing the market to respond to problems as the most efficient method.

It's much easier to claim that teh gov't can make all kids einsteins trhough public education if we just raised taxes a little more on the rich than to say - you know what, some kids just aren't that smart and are going to have to make careers out of unskilled labor, no matter how much money we pump into public education.

197 People have made comments about some of the squishier R canidates being gungrabbers. If Obama and the leftardians don't have the balls to try while in power; what makes you think a RHINO would? Guns, the new Third Rail.

198 "My guess is 90% of the animosity towards Palin is rooted in her voice, her accent, her sentence structure style"

Which, if true, is completely ridiculous because her voice is fine. She just has a midwest accent. But I doubt it's true, anyway. 90% of the animosity toward Palin is rooted in the fact that she didn't kill her baby and she isn't a liberal.

199 LOL, I don't have a life.

200 Maybe he thinks he isn't ready on foreign policy issues.  If he's going to run, he probably wants to do it with the best possible preparation.  I reckon he'll be a pretty formidable candidate in either 2016 or 2020.  Until then, I think it's time people leave him alone.  He doesn't want to run and he isn't going to run.

201 What is wrong with saying, shortly after you've gotten in, "I don't yet have a good answer to that question. I'm still being briefed

Screw that.  "I plead the 5th"

202 Let's start with Kennedy, the first pres I remember, and do a Can talk, can't talk list. Kennedy: "Ask not ..." ... Can Johnson: "I will not seek ..." ... Can Nixon: "I'm not a crook" ... Can't Ford: "I am pardoning ..." ... Can't Carter: "You'll notice I'm wearing a sweater" ... Mixed bag Reagan: "I will not make my opponent's inexperience an issue ..." Can George H.W. Bush: "This Japanese food sucks ... whoosh" ... Can't Clinton: "I feel your clitor, er, pain" ... Can George W. Bush: "Misunderestimate" ... Can't Obama: "Acted stupidly" ... Mixed bag Tally: Dems that can talk: 3 - 0 - 2 Repubs: 1 - 4 - 0 I rest my case.

203 '90% of the animosity toward Palin is rooted in the fact that she didn't kill her baby and she isn't a liberal. Posted by: Kensington" The reaction against her began long before much was really known about her positions. It began when she made her first appearance in Dayton and especially after the convention speech.

204 >>>Savage was quite taken with Trump.  I think culture (New York) overcame his ideology there.

Or maybe he is indeed the Moby that many suspect he is, and so was pushing Trump precisely because he is/was the havoc-wreaking "GOP loses" candidate that liberals love and want.

Seriously, this isn't hard to figure out.

205 Posted by: spongeworthy at September 26, 2011 01:02 PM (rplL3)

The Federal EPA has to get involved in cleaning up a gas station? Give me a break.

NJ has an EPA, and they are sufficiently fanatical to cause huge problems without a federal version.

The vast majority of EPA efforts are to mitigate minor problems. Chromium in the groundwater? Oh, no! It doesn't cause human illness, but let's clean it up to the tune of billions, because that's how we justify our existence.

PCB in the stable silt at the bottom of the river? Dredge it! Stir it up! Spread it all over the fucking place...because that's how we justify our existence.

206 Posted by: Oldcat at September 26, 2011 01:03 PM (z1N6a)

So word count is some measure of...what?

207 Sorry for the OT, but I want to make sure our Emerald City morons-ettes are all OK.  Just heard there was an explosion in a Seattle suburb about 2 hours ago.  Will be praying for everyone involved.

208

Truth is a good idea.  Here's another truth:

 

"I would never make that kind of decision without being briefed on America's up-to-the-minute intelligence sources and without consulting the finest minds in America's military.  No one who has America's best interests in minds is going to commit to a course of action for such a dangerous situation in a 30-second soundbite.  That said, here are some general thoughts.  First, my administration would work to prevent the Taliban from ever getting nukes in the first place. . . ."

 

 

209

209 ...."My guess is 90% of the animosity towards Palin is rooted in her voice, her accent, her sentence structure style"

Which, if true, is completely ridiculous because her voice is fine. She just has a midwest accent.

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No. It's not a midwest accent. ....If anything, it's an Alaska-Canadian type accent. Which is why it sounds so foreign to so many people down here in the lower 48.

It's when she all-of-a-sudden goes from an even cadence in her speaking ---to going up a couple of octaves....and then cascading back downward in that sing-song way that she does. ....That is what is severely off-putting.

I've lived in the midwest all my life. ....and that is not a midwest accent.

210 The Republicans do, in fact, have some rhetoricians; however, most of them are lawmakers who do not yet (or never will) possess the experience to run for president.

211 >>>I've lived in the midwest all my life. ....and that is not a midwest accent.

Well, if you've ever spent any time in Wisconsin or Minnesota (as I have), then...yeah, there's definitely a similarity.  But it's definitely NOT an accent you'd hear in Illinois or Missouri or Kansas, if that's the "Midwest" you're thinking about.

Either way, I can't fucking stand it anymore.

212 "I've lived in the midwest all my life. ....and that is not a midwest accent."

I grew up in the Midwest and lived there for almost thirty-five years. She sounds like any number of women I've known. It's "off-putting" if you want it to be off-putting, but there's nothing inherently, objectively off-putting about her voice.

213 "But it's definitely NOT an accent you'd hear in Illinois "

My aunt who lived her entire life in Chicago sounded like that.

214 >>>My aunt who lived her entire life in Chicago sounded like that.

Huh.  I've spent tons of time in Chicago and the (northwest) suburbs, and I've never heard that accent there.  Go figure. 

Anyway, we basically agree: for me it's the sort of accent that turns up all the time in Wisconsin and Minnesota as well.  You say you've heard it in northen Illinois.  We'll split the difference and say it's common in the upper Midwest.

215 220 209 ...It's when she all-of-a-sudden goes from an even cadence in her speaking ---to going up a couple of octaves....and then cascading back downward in that sing-song way that she does. ....That is what is severely off-putting.

Yes. It's her tone and pitch.

216

>>>The Federal EPA has to get involved in cleaning up a gas station?

Obviously I don't think we need the EPA to clean up our gas stations. But it would be stupid for Christie to do as you suggest and tell them to fuck off rather than paying for the NJDEP to clean up our gas stations.

217 Depends on your definition of "good."

 

Someone who could win at the national level.

Yeah, like me!  I won!

218 "Huh.  I've spent tons of time in Chicago and the (northwest) suburbs, and I've never heard that accent there.  Go figure. "

Maybe it's significant that I spent almost a decade on the east coast as well. It's possible that this has given me an ear for accents that someone who has only lived in the same geographic area their whole life might not have. I dunno.

219 Ace, I'm hoping that your "Alas" was ironic/sarcastic.

Chris Christie is way out of sync on immigration, ObamaCare, "global warming" and -- worst of all -- accommodations to radical Islam. Indeed, he has actively and vociferously defended people who want to replace our Constitution with sharia and have said so.
http://tinyurl.com/655fhwg

Christie is in bed with our #1 enemy. Screw him.

220 Good God, how many times does this man have to say "no" before it sinks in??

221 Pushing Christie at all was stupid to begin with.  He has a lot of work left in NJ.  I supported Daniels before his whore wife fucked it all up, because Daniels might not have FINISHED his work, but he was Term Limited out of Governor in Indiana.  Mitch had done what he could here, Which was a lot, and had no further to go because of legislation.  

Christie has a lot more he can do in NJ, and to abandon it would be selfish right now.

222 Posted by: Kathy from Kansas at September 26, 2011 02:09 PM (2AfqM)

you would be so blessed to have Chris Christie as your president but you are so filled with the rhetoric that the MSM wants you to be filled with, you wouldn't know a good thing if it fell right into your lap.

Please write something supporting all the charges against Mr. Christie, me and annie are waiting for it

223 I hear John McCain is available. He's got that Viet Nam thing going for him.

224 perhaps it's too late to comment on this thread, but Cain is one who is honest and has already answered questions to the effect, "I don't have all the information on that, but I will have an answer for you in short order".  But somehow he's unelectable.
Before the FL straw poll results came out, I ordered bumperstickers and yardsigns from Cain.

So, I'm voting for the guy I'd like to see have the job. In the general, I'll vote anybody but SCOAMF.

225 >>>Maybe it's significant that I spent almost a decade on the east coast as well. It's possible that this has given me an ear for accents that someone who has only lived in the same geographic area their whole life might not have. I dunno.

Well, except for the fact that I was born and raised (and currently live) on the East Coast myself.  So, maybe not so much.

226 213

Put LBJ in the "can't" category - his public speeches were brutal, much like Ford's, and his major accomplishments were done moreso by convincing Congresscritters behind doors than convincing the American people.

Really, since the advent of the TV era, we've only had 3 great Prez communicators: JFK, Reagan, & Clinton.

Captain Kickass gave some great speeches during the campaign but has been revealed as a SCOAMF

227 It's like Glenn Beck says..."The truth has no agenda." All we the people fucking want is the truth and some real solutions. No hocus pocus. Even if it makes me angry I would rather have the truth.

228 Awww, he doesn't really really mean it...

229 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

230 Wow this is soo helpful I have been trying to figure this out on my own for a long time now. Hopefully making this change will help encourage discussion on my blog.