June 01, 2011
— DrewM I meant to get to this earlier but you know...Weinergeddon.
Anyway, yesterday he took a Jersey State Police helicopter to watch his son's HS baseball game. Naturally, Democrats are outrageously outraged!
Turns out, it cost the taxpayers a grand sum of zero dollars.
Gov. Chris Christie has taken the state helicopter 35 times since taking office in January 2010, including to survey flood and storm damage, according to State Police.State Police Superintendent Col. Rick Fuentes released a statement arguing the flights don't cost the taxpayer anything.
Fuentes said the time police pilots fly the governor count as training time.
"It is important to understand that State Police helicopters fly daily homeland security missions, and use flight time for training purposes, more so lately as we acclimate our pilots to the new aircraft," Fuentes.
I don't begrudge governors and Presidents the odd perk that's beyond most people's reach. Nor do I care how much it costs any President to go anywhere, they need to be protected. But even with this not costing anything this was a mistake by Christie. The optics of a Governor who is basically making his bones on getting state spending under control using a helicopter to catch a few innings of his kid's game are simply horrible. In politics, facts are often irrelevant. This is especially true in a blue state like NJ where Republicans have to be purer than Caesar's wife. And honestly, there are a lot of busy parents with important jobs who have to miss their kids games or make other choices, why is a Governor so special?
So yeah, this is a mistake. A minor one to be sure but still a mistake.
That said, The Big Man is still my guy. Speaking of which....
And where did Christie have to rush off to? A dinner with big time Iowa Republicans who want to see him run for President. TChristie once again did say no but...he once again did something that make people say...hmmm. He's going to Iowa this summer.
“It was exactly what we intended it to be, short of him saying he’d run,” Iowa ethanol entrepreneur Bruce Rastetter said of the supper at the New Jersey governor’s mansion.“What we heard from him very clearly was the same response he has given publicly: that he made a commitment to New Jersey and continuing to work to solve their problems,” said Rastetter, a Hardin County Republican and one of the organizers of the effort to draft the reluctant Christie to run for president.
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However, Christie told the Iowans he has accepted an invitation from Iowa Gov. Terry Branstad to give the keynote address at an education summit here this summer. “So we’re excited his voice will be in Iowa in July and addressing education issues that are important to our state and our country,” Rastetter said.
You know Governor, Presidents have helicopters and even a really cool plane too. Just saying.
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Posted by: YRM (Go Heat, Go Canucks) at June 01, 2011 02:35 PM (UzBwz)
Posted by: t-bird at June 01, 2011 02:36 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Chris Christie at June 01, 2011 02:38 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: PR at June 01, 2011 02:38 PM (mr695)
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 01, 2011 02:39 PM (kUaEF)
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 01, 2011 02:39 PM (kUaEF)
Posted by: Shiggz at June 01, 2011 02:40 PM (mLAWK)
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 01, 2011 06:39 PM (kUaEF)
I agree with a lot of what you said but I didn't mean to start a Palin thread jacking, just made a small joke on how Christie threads some times turn out
Posted by: YRM (Go Heat, Go Canucks) at June 01, 2011 02:41 PM (UzBwz)
Posted by: George Orwell at June 01, 2011 02:42 PM (AZGON)
Also I agree the optics are horrible though it's brilliant if he wants to point to that and say "see not running!"
Posted by: alexthechick at June 01, 2011 02:44 PM (sf+iw)
Interviewer: Have you ever ordered the entire menu from Burger King?
Christie: i'm not going to answer that
Interviewer: Just answer the question, have you ever ordered the entire menu from Burger King?
Christie: I got work to do
Interviewer: Just answer the question
Christie: I got work to do sir
Interviewer: Just tell me if you ordered that whole menu?
Christie: I have to get to work
Posted by: YRM (Go Heat, Go Canucks) at June 01, 2011 02:44 PM (UzBwz)
Posted by: Huma Abedin at June 01, 2011 02:44 PM (AZGON)
Oh you bastard, now I want onion rings and an icee.
Posted by: alexthechick at June 01, 2011 02:46 PM (sf+iw)
Posted by: Chris Christie at June 01, 2011 06:38 PM (FcR7P)
Are you sure you can state that with complete certainty?
It's "certitude;" remember, Weiner is a pretentious New York City Dem.
Posted by: Rick at June 01, 2011 02:46 PM (L/O45)
He would also difuse the quitter meme.
how so? and he wouldn't have to quit to run for President
and no I don't think he's running
Posted by: YRM (Go Heat, Go Canucks) at June 01, 2011 02:47 PM (UzBwz)
Posted by: Mike Huckabee at June 01, 2011 02:47 PM (AZGON)
But remember, flying to NY or Chicago for "date night" is cute. Makes you a good husband.
Posted by: Warden at June 01, 2011 02:47 PM (lYg4F)
Posted by: w thomas at June 01, 2011 02:48 PM (HPcQF)
http://tinyurl.com/3uzv5cb
Let's see, where do I recall that unrealistic build up of a political newcomer from?
Posted by: jeannebodine at June 01, 2011 02:48 PM (nvlAW)
Posted by: Bored with the same old at June 01, 2011 02:50 PM (Tp+g9)
Posted by: rdbrewer at June 01, 2011 02:51 PM (J/2v7)
Posted by: w thomas at June 01, 2011 06:48 PM (HPcQF)
Thank you for not reading the article before posting your response.
Without people like you, the market for blood pressure medication would collapse.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 01, 2011 02:51 PM (bxiXv)
I think Christie is like Rubio plotting 2016. Who are they going to put up Hillary on oxygen? Biden? Weiner? They got nothing. I just hope they are right and we are all still around in 2016.
I dont want to hear jack shit about this until the lefty apologizes and pays back Pelosis monstrous 90000 mile flight bills.
Link to Fox News about Pelosi
http://tinyurl.com/4cdhw7r
Posted by: Shiggz at June 01, 2011 02:52 PM (mLAWK)
Posted by: Bored with the same old at June 01, 2011 06:50 PM (Tp+g9)
look at my previous comment on this:
just made a small joke on how Christie threads some times turn out
Posted by: YRM (Go Heat, Go Canucks) at June 01, 2011 02:52 PM (UzBwz)
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at June 01, 2011 02:52 PM (4Pf4C)
Posted by: Shiggz at June 01, 2011 02:53 PM (mLAWK)
Pelosi was third in line for the presidency.
She was an important leader and therefore needed to travel extensively.
Posted by: w thomas at June 01, 2011 02:53 PM (HPcQF)
I guess they are going to cheer Palin now since she ran on selling the governors private jet on ebay when she won and she did?
+1
She was an important leader and therefore needed to travel extensively.
if i'm correct, Boehner takes commercial
Posted by: YRM (Go Heat, Go Canucks) at June 01, 2011 02:55 PM (UzBwz)
Posted by: Anthony Weiner at June 01, 2011 02:55 PM (kUaEF)
Posted by: alexthechick at June 01, 2011 02:55 PM (sf+iw)
Posted by: Joefrog of the Stonecutters at June 01, 2011 02:57 PM (vKUhG)
Posted by: w thomas at June 01, 2011 06:48 PM (HPcQF)
Exactly! If he had any kind of class, he'd have buzzed ground zero. Now,If anyone needs me, I'll be on one of the six 747's we usually take, en route to a vacation in Spain with my wife. Gotta tighten those belts while the economy is slumpin'.
Posted by: The Drizzle at June 01, 2011 02:58 PM (ysCLj)
Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at June 01, 2011 02:58 PM (agD4m)
Posted by: Bugler at June 01, 2011 02:59 PM (VXBR1)
Look, can we just start talking about longbows now? I want to see if we can make Drew come yell at us.
Pollock! Pollock!
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 01, 2011 03:00 PM (eyh2h)
Posted by: alexthechick at June 01, 2011 06:55 PM (sf+iw)
Crossbows.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 01, 2011 03:01 PM (bxiXv)
Pelosi was third in line for the presidency.
She was an important leader and therefore needed to travel extensively.
Posted by: w thomas at June 01, 2011 06:53 PM (HPcQF)
If you are someones sockpuppet, you are brilliant. If you are serious, you are a delusional taintstain.
Posted by: The Drizzle at June 01, 2011 03:01 PM (ysCLj)
Posted by: Sarah Palin at June 01, 2011 03:01 PM (agD4m)
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at June 01, 2011 06:52 PM (4Pf4C)
That's for the Weiner.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 01, 2011 03:01 PM (LH6ir)
;">Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at June 01, 2011 06:58 PM (agD4m)
;">a very true comment if you ask me
Posted by: YRM (Go Heat, Go Canucks) at June 01, 2011 03:01 PM (UzBwz)
Posted by: Sarah Palin at June 01, 2011 07:01 PM (agD4m)
you don't read do you? I posted 2 comments that it was a joke on threadjacking, not starting crap about Palin who I posted a favorable comment about in this thread
Posted by: YRM (Go Heat, Go Canucks) at June 01, 2011 03:03 PM (UzBwz)
Posted by: nevergiveup at June 01, 2011 03:04 PM (7wmOW)
Posted by: Anthony Weiner at June 01, 2011 03:05 PM (kUaEF)
Posted by: Caramel Dildo at June 01, 2011 03:06 PM (SwkdU)
Posted by: George Orwell at June 01, 2011 03:06 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: UGAdawg at June 01, 2011 03:07 PM (/VjHB)
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 01, 2011 03:07 PM (kUaEF)
I just don't understand the irrational obsession around here with Rep. Weiner's personal life.
You folks need to lighten up. It's 2011 and people do all kinds of things now.
If he were a hypocritical family-values Republican, then I could see why a situation like this would merit media attention.
Posted by: w thomas at June 01, 2011 03:07 PM (HPcQF)
Posted by: Bobby Jindal at June 01, 2011 03:08 PM (FYCiJ)
Yes. Because the one thing the Moron Horde is known for is not having a sense of humor.
Posted by: alexthechick at June 01, 2011 03:08 PM (sf+iw)
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 01, 2011 03:08 PM (kUaEF)
Posted by: nevergiveup at June 01, 2011 03:08 PM (7wmOW)
Posted by: GW McLintock at June 01, 2011 03:09 PM (xj4/B)
as opposed to a newlywed? Married to one of Hillary's closest confidants? yeah I don't get it either.
Posted by: The Great Satan's Ghost at June 01, 2011 03:11 PM (UrPTC)
Posted by: Anthony Weiner at June 01, 2011 07:05 PM (kUaEF)
(holds up picture)
"Have you seen this Wiener?"
Posted by: Wiener Dude at June 01, 2011 03:12 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 01, 2011 03:12 PM (kUaEF)
Posted by: Sarah Palin (TM) at June 01, 2011 03:13 PM (FYCiJ)
Posted by: Dave at June 01, 2011 07:12 PM (HPcQF)
Google is your friend
sorry, I was curious because it sounded to sockpuppety to me
Posted by: YRM (Go Heat, Go Canucks) at June 01, 2011 03:13 PM (UzBwz)
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 01, 2011 03:14 PM (kUaEF)
Posted by: Soona at June 01, 2011 03:14 PM (z7aey)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 01, 2011 03:14 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 01, 2011 03:14 PM (TMB3S)
If he were a hypocritical family-values Republican, then I could see why a situation like this would merit media attention. Posted by: w thomas at June 01, 2011 07:07 PM
Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha!
Tell me you're not serious.
Marriage vows only apply to Republicans?
Standards of decency only apply to Republicans?
Professional conduct only applies to Republicans?
If it's not a big deal, why is he lying about it?
Posted by: Y-not at June 01, 2011 03:15 PM (pW2o8)
That is the most pathetic whine I have ever read in my entire life.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 01, 2011 03:15 PM (bxiXv)
Jeebus. Kids are murdered horribly Every.Single.Day.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 01, 2011 03:16 PM (UOM48)
Well, it isn't really a "big deal" IYKWIMATYD, which might be reason enough to lie about it,
. Seriously w thomas, you don't think this is inappropriate behavior?
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at June 01, 2011 03:17 PM (4Pf4C)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 01, 2011 03:17 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 01, 2011 07:15 PM (bxiXv)
how fucking stupid is the MBM?
Posted by: YRM (Go Heat, Go Canucks) at June 01, 2011 03:17 PM (UzBwz)
Posted by: YRM (Go Heat, Go Canucks) at June 01, 2011 03:18 PM (UzBwz)
Yeah but not necessarily by their own momsPosted by: nevergiveup at June 01, 2011 03:18 PM (7wmOW)
Posted by: George Orwell at June 01, 2011 03:18 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: andycanuck at June 01, 2011 03:19 PM (DUOUR)
There's one thing that's certain, however fucking stupid you think the MBM is, the MBM will find a way to be fucking stupider.
Posted by: alexthechick at June 01, 2011 03:19 PM (sf+iw)
It would be too easy, and boring after about 1 hr.
Posted by: chemjeff at June 01, 2011 03:20 PM (7mSYS)
Posted by: Charlie Gibson at June 01, 2011 03:20 PM (JMsOK)
how fucking stupid is the MBM?
Posted by: YRM (Go Heat, Go Canucks) at June 01, 2011 07:17 PM (UzBwz)
How many stars are there? How many grains of sand?
A whole fucking lot, that's how many.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 01, 2011 03:21 PM (bxiXv)
Just hook her up on the witness stand and be done with it.
And just this week in Savannah, they discovered a worthless POS "mother" and her POS "mom" who had deliberately starved a six year old special needs child down to.....16 pounds.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 01, 2011 03:22 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: moki at June 01, 2011 03:23 PM (dZmFh)
Posted by: George Orwell at June 01, 2011 03:23 PM (AZGON)
@105
It would be fun...just to be a LibTard!
Just think............No worries, and you get to throw out ridiculous statements without ever having to take responsibility for them.
Oooh, and you you don't have to be right about anything, and you still get respect...It would be awesome!
Posted by: Charlie Gibson at June 01, 2011 03:24 PM (JMsOK)
In general, I think any top executive should use the most efficient transportation available to him/her because his/her time is too valuable to the public to be screwing around with public transportation or traffic jams or what have you.
Still, Christie's mistake (and others before him) is so avoidable. Why in heck don't these politicians' staffers get in front of these stories? Shit, all they'd have to do is a have a program wherein top elementary students are rewarded with a ride in the chopper or something. They could do it twice a year and have a big media push explaining how it's not costing anything. That's how you inure the public to the usage of the copter for things that don't necessarily project the "optics" you want.
Posted by: Y-not at June 01, 2011 03:25 PM (pW2o8)
Moochelle will not be pleased. She's coming out with her new "plate" to replace our food pyramid.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 01, 2011 03:26 PM (UOM48)
Oooh, and you you don't have to be right about anything, and you still get respect...It would be awesome!
Posted by: Charlie Gibson at June 01, 2011 07:24 PM (JMsOK)
Oh, sure, you've heard of THAT!
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 01, 2011 03:26 PM (bxiXv)
Your science can be all sciencey instead of accurate.
Posted by: alexthechick at June 01, 2011 03:26 PM (sf+iw)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 01, 2011 07:14 PM (TMB3S)
I'm a little unclear on how having dinner with a guy means you support subsidies for his industry.
If Christie does run/take a position on it and comes out for them, yeah, that would be bad for him.
Posted by: DrewM. at June 01, 2011 03:27 PM (Fz+L5)
Posted by: George Orwell at June 01, 2011 03:29 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: nevergiveup at June 01, 2011 03:33 PM (7wmOW)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 01, 2011 03:33 PM (UOM48)
What the fuck's this shit?
Posted by: Messalina at June 01, 2011 03:33 PM (MMC8r)
My science is dazzling.
Our science is the greatest and only we have the true answer to the great question!
Posted by: Mutant Sea Otters from the Future at June 01, 2011 03:34 PM (3x5Cz)
If he makes a public apology then it'll be forgotten. 'Cause apologizing makes everything alright.
If you're a liberal, that is.
Posted by: katya, the designated driver at June 01, 2011 03:34 PM (/AKU5)
He put a muslim on the bench. UNFORGIVABLE.
Posted by: sablegsd at June 01, 2011 07:31 PM (AKS75)
What stand on Border Issues? Posted by: nevergiveup
Christie is against closing the border between New Jersey and Atlantis. Those damn fish people are terkin' er jibs!
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 01, 2011 03:34 PM (qaU+h)
Posted by: nevergiveup at June 01, 2011 03:34 PM (7wmOW)
Posted by: ErikW at June 01, 2011 03:36 PM (dbjue)
Posted by: mrs caesar at June 01, 2011 03:36 PM (DUOUR)
Posted by: Racefan at June 01, 2011 03:36 PM (FKnHb)
Posted by: Tony Horshak at June 01, 2011 03:38 PM (azgo2)
FYI, Caylee is the victim - Casey is the mother/perpetrator.
Posted by: Cathy at June 01, 2011 07:36 PM (xWFCX)
Thnx. Can't keep up.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 01, 2011 03:38 PM (UOM48)
Your science can be all sciencey instead of accurate.
Posted by: alexthechick at June 01, 2011 07:26 PM (sf+iw)
And speak truth to power. That would be amazing. We could all imagine ourselves being friends with a radical muslims too.
Posted by: Soona at June 01, 2011 03:38 PM (z7aey)
It is apparent now from what we are hearing constantly from Debbie Whats-her-name Schlitz, and also from Obama, that it is going to be cynicism and demagoguery, grandma over the cliff, all the way. And the drumbeat will get louder and more constant, with the MBM providing usual cover.
Christie is the only guy who can deliver our message. None of the others have the combination of charm and toughness to do it. None. Absolutely none.
He is the only one who can survive the firestorm the media will create with the meme the Dems will insist they push.
Posted by: I'm in a New York state of mind at June 01, 2011 03:40 PM (4sQwu)
Christie isn't running. Rubio isn't running. Ryan isn't running. Palin isn't running.
I think Palin is going to endorse Bachmann or Cain but is flirting with running to get her numbers up and make the endorsement that much more important to the result.
Posted by: Paper at June 01, 2011 03:41 PM (VoSja)
Posted by: nickless at June 01, 2011 03:42 PM (MMC8r)
I can't figure out for the life of me...why Christie says he won't run?
Not only can he win, he be the only one that can win!
Posted by: Jimi at June 01, 2011 03:42 PM (JMsOK)
Posted by: nevergiveup at June 01, 2011 03:42 PM (7wmOW)
Casey is the mother/perpetrator.
Posted by: Cathy at June 01, 2011 07:36 PM (xWFCX)
And should die by fire or a severe beat down by Big Bertha.
Posted by: Fish the Impaler at June 01, 2011 03:43 PM (cwFVA)
Proof of the glory of God's creation. Erin Grey, not the obscene twitters.
Posted by: alexthechick at June 01, 2011 03:45 PM (sf+iw)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 01, 2011 03:46 PM (UOM48)
#149
That is probably right, even though Cain is running second to only Romney in Iowa (tied with Palin) as of a poll today.
I don't think she would endorse Pawlenty and Romney is a definite no. Paul and Gingrich are 'no's as well.
I'd be very surprised if she didn't endrose Bachmann. Cain is possible though, because he has outsider credibility, and Palin does what she wants.
Posted by: Paper at June 01, 2011 03:47 PM (VoSja)
Yeah, but....he's no squish on fiscal matters, and I submit we need that above all things.
1. He can recant on the border.
2. He's not Pawlenty.
3. He's not Romney.
4. He hasn't quit.
5. He can beat you know who over the head extremely effing effectively.
6. He'll drive the unions apeshit in a way not seen since Ronaldus Magnus.
7. He can choose Marco Rubio and we cannot possibly lose.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 01, 2011 03:47 PM (gDbxE)
Too bad he has no other form of that.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 01, 2011 03:48 PM (gDbxE)
Posted by: chemjeff at June 01, 2011 03:49 PM (7mSYS)
Posted by: just a guess at June 01, 2011 03:50 PM (Ulptw)
Posted by: Mercedes at June 01, 2011 03:50 PM (SWgtT)
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at June 01, 2011 03:50 PM (8B3iX)
Posted by: nevergiveup at June 01, 2011 03:51 PM (7wmOW)
Posted by: chemjeff at June 01, 2011 03:51 PM (7mSYS)
I'm going to kill a few brain cells by watching Ghost Hunters on the USS Arizona at 8:00.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 01, 2011 07:46 PM (UOM4
Huh.Not sure how I think about that.
Posted by: ErikW at June 01, 2011 03:51 PM (dbjue)
Cain is going to need some major gaffes to not be a force in Iowa. The ones he has had so far aren't sticking, and he has walked them back with no real consequence. His polling is remarkably high for his name recognition.
Right now, I'd expect the top three in Iowa to be Bachmann, Cain, and Romney in some order.
Cain would be a weak general election candidate.
Posted by: Paper at June 01, 2011 03:51 PM (VoSja)
They don't have to be alive, you know.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 01, 2011 03:51 PM (gDbxE)
Posted by: nevergiveup at June 01, 2011 03:52 PM (7wmOW)
I can't figure out for the life of me...why Christie says he won't run?
Nancy Pelosi had a meeting with him and asked him not to...she had a 2lb pork chop hanging around her neck the entire time.
Posted by: Barbarian at June 01, 2011 03:52 PM (EL+OC)
They're using scuba or something?
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 01, 2011 03:52 PM (gDbxE)
Posted by: Soona at June 01, 2011 03:54 PM (z7aey)
I'm going to kill a few brain cells by watching Ghost Hunters on the USS Arizona at 8:00.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 01, 2011 07:46 PM (UOM4
Huh.Not sure how I think about that.
Posted by: ErikW at June 01, 2011 07:51 PM (dbjue)
----
I just need something to clear my head. Husband's out of town, kid Skyped me with more info on his deployment. I'm tired.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 01, 2011 03:54 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 01, 2011 07:52 PM (gDbxE)
Heh, that was my line of thinking too.
Posted by: ErikW at June 01, 2011 03:55 PM (dbjue)
Didn't Cain solidly win the last straw poll here?
I can see the appeal for a House or Senate seat. The Presidency is just a step too far, particularly for someone who has clearly not thought very deeply about foreign issues.
I don't see this hurting him in the primaries though. Voters are very conflicted about Afghanistan and Iraq, and I just don't think it will stick as a negative.
Posted by: Paper at June 01, 2011 03:55 PM (VoSja)
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at June 01, 2011 07:50 PM (8B3iX)
I agree and so we are going to have to do what the left does when they nominate a candidate that they all can't agree on - they decide to back that candidate regardless, because they see the Republicans as a larger threat. And they don't just back the candidate, they go all-out and try to drag him over the finish line by any means necessary. See: Kerry 2004. God help me, if Cain or Palin or Bachmann win the nomination, I'll vote and campaign for them, even though I don't think they have a snowball's chance in hell. I just wish the diehard Cainiacs or Palinistas or Bachmann-ites would do the same when it came to the Romneys or T-Paws or (shudder) Gingriches.
Posted by: chemjeff at June 01, 2011 03:55 PM (7mSYS)
#178
Most people end up voting for the candidate, but the problem comes in fundraising and volunteering.
It is one thing to ask someone to vote against Obama. It is another to ask them to give a maximum donation to that person's campaign. This is where you have to feel like the candidate represents you.
Posted by: Paper at June 01, 2011 03:57 PM (VoSja)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 01, 2011 03:58 PM (UOM48)
I just need something to clear my head. Husband's out of town, kid Skyped me with more info on his deployment. I'm tired.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 01, 2011 07:54 PM (UOM4
That wasn't a criticism on you, I know what you're going through.
I was just sayin' that everyone likes a good ghost story, that's all.
Posted by: ErikW at June 01, 2011 03:58 PM (dbjue)
Posted by: nevergiveup at June 01, 2011 03:58 PM (7wmOW)
Posted by: sifty at June 01, 2011 03:59 PM (2dbd9)
Posted by: sifty at June 01, 2011 07:59 PM (2dbd9)
I get a warm and fuzzy feeling when I remember all the great Scare Force One photoshops.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 01, 2011 04:00 PM (UOM48)
I'll say it right now: I don't like Palin, I think she is grating and irritating, I don't want her as President because it would be non-stop bullshit drama every single day, but God help me, if she wins the R nomination, I will donate the maximum personal donation to her and campaign for her like a banshee, because I WANT OBAMA OUT, PERIOD. Will the Palin folks say the same about, say, T-Paw?
Posted by: chemjeff at June 01, 2011 04:01 PM (7mSYS)
To my way of thinking, buzzing NYC with a billion dollar plane full of campaign donors is a little more serious than giving some pilots some stick time to get used to a new rig.
Posted by: sifty at June 01, 2011 04:02 PM (2dbd9)
I'm not going to be distracted by your stupid little miniscule questions.
Now watch this drive!
Posted by: Barry O. at June 01, 2011 04:03 PM (7mSYS)
I pledge to give the max in money and time to the Republican nominee ,with one caveat:
No Ron Paul.
Posted by: sifty at June 01, 2011 04:04 PM (2dbd9)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 01, 2011 04:05 PM (TMB3S)
Like you, I am not a Palinite, but outside of Paul (not going to happen), I will do EXACTLY what you said as well.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 01, 2011 04:05 PM (gDbxE)
Posted by: chemjeff at June 01, 2011 08:01 PM (7mSYS)
Absolutely. Especially if they have a conservative tone in their campaign. And that's key in this election. America is ready for conservativism now.
Posted by: Soona at June 01, 2011 04:05 PM (z7aey)
It's lovely to see more Rs confront Obama and not apologize for it.
Ryan vs. Obama: “Mr. President, the demagoguery only stops if the Leaders stop it."
“I could tell the president was nervous, because when he’s nervous, he talks on and on. Everybody else he gave about a three or four minute answers to. To Paul Ryan it was about 20 minutes,” freshman Rep. James Lankford (R-Okla.) said.
Obama's snide answer about demagoguery (generally): Peter King: “He said, ‘As someone who’s a socialist, who wants to have government-run healthcare … and who’s birth certificate is being questioned, I can empathize with that.'"
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at June 01, 2011 04:05 PM (8B3iX)
Posted by: chemjeff at June 01, 2011 04:07 PM (7mSYS)
Posted by: willow at June 01, 2011 04:09 PM (h+qn8)
Whining and self-pity is unbecoming in a five year-old, in the leader of the free world it is beyond pathetic.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 01, 2011 04:09 PM (gDbxE)
Stearns on O'Reilly just cracked me up. Talking about the Pentagon suffering 104 cyber attacks last year or something, and then Stearns said this "Weiner thing is a small example of that." Or words to that effect.
Funny stuff.
Posted by: Dave at June 01, 2011 04:10 PM (HPcQF)
Posted by: chemjeff at June 01, 2011 04:10 PM (7mSYS)
Posted by: zoeythegreat at June 01, 2011 04:11 PM (K7csO)
Posted by: Serious Cat at June 01, 2011 04:11 PM (bAySe)
Posted by: chemjeff at June 01, 2011 08:07 PM (7mSYS)
What are you talking about? In case you haven't noticed yet, Sarah has not declared candidacy.
Posted by: Soona at June 01, 2011 04:11 PM (z7aey)
Same here. I currently don't have a candidate-- though I'm leaning towards my gov. (Perry)-- but I will do my utmost to get whoever wins the GOP nod elected. This isn't a time to be sitting-out because another Ronald Reagan hasn't appeared. We simply can't survive another 4yrs of Obama.
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at June 01, 2011 04:13 PM (8B3iX)
I will work my ass off to elect anyone besides Obama.
Even Romney.
Posted by: Dave at June 01, 2011 08:12 PM (HPcQF)
Not me. If any northeast RINO liberal gets the nom, I'm going on a fucking 4 year bender in Costa Rica.
Posted by: Barbarian at June 01, 2011 04:13 PM (EL+OC)
The jokes just write themselves, don't they?
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at June 01, 2011 04:13 PM (3x5Cz)
Posted by: Dave at June 01, 2011 04:14 PM (HPcQF)
Posted by: YRM (Go Heat, Go Canucks) at June 01, 2011 04:16 PM (UzBwz)
Posted by: Serious Cat at June 01, 2011 04:17 PM (bAySe)
The libs predictably believe it was a wonderful answer to Rs "whining" about Mediscare. I'm sure Obama thought it was clever too.
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at June 01, 2011 04:18 PM (8B3iX)
Posted by: Serious Cat at June 01, 2011 08:17 PM (bAySe)
I know it's not a question for me but my answer would be it all depends on his record as President
Posted by: YRM (Go Heat, Go Canucks) at June 01, 2011 04:19 PM (UzBwz)
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at June 01, 2011 08:18 PM (8B3iX)
they should have brought charts and get in his face about facts/stats/numbers, when those are applied we win
Posted by: YRM (Go Heat, Go Canucks) at June 01, 2011 04:20 PM (UzBwz)
Posted by: Barbarian at June 01, 2011 08:13 PM (EL+OC)
like I told Vic, then gtfo
Posted by: YRM (Go Heat, Go Canucks) at June 01, 2011 08:15 PM (UzBwz)
Love ya, YRM, but Vic is a decent guy. Would you speak that way to your dad or grandfather? He's a granddad and deserves respect.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 01, 2011 04:20 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: OzJohnnie at June 01, 2011 04:20 PM (RJY0+)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 01, 2011 08:20 PM (UOM4
I love yah too Jane but it's a long story, unfortunetly Vic and me don't like each other, it happends
even amongst fellow righties we can't all get along 
Posted by: YRM (Go Heat, Go Canucks) at June 01, 2011 04:22 PM (UzBwz)
Posted by: jjshaka at June 01, 2011 04:22 PM (BBB/7)
chem, anyone but obama or r paul.
Posted by: willow at June 01, 2011 08:14 PM (h+qn
I wish, I'd kick them in the fucking nuts if I had the chance. Cocksuckers.
Posted by: ErikW at June 01, 2011 04:22 PM (dbjue)
Posted by: interested at June 01, 2011 04:22 PM (Vxlzu)
WTF? Why is Trump on Hannity again and why are they blowing each other?
Posted by: ErikW at June 01, 2011 08:12 PM (dbjue)
Self-fellatio gets boring after a while, too much bobbing up and down checking the mirror.
Posted by: The Robot Devil at June 01, 2011 04:22 PM (84oau)
Posted by: OzJohnnie at June 01, 2011 08:20 PM (RJY0+)
Reagan had huge state dinners and parties while the economy was getting out of a horrible recession, was he out of touch?
Posted by: YRM (Go Heat, Go Canucks) at June 01, 2011 04:23 PM (UzBwz)
Posted by: runningrn at June 01, 2011 04:23 PM (ihSHD)
The Senate is practically useless. This video would be hilarious if the times weren't so serious.
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at June 01, 2011 04:23 PM (8B3iX)
Hannity=Tool
Posted by: YRM (Go Heat, Go Canucks) at June 01, 2011 08:23 PM (UzBwz)
But, you're a Great American!
Posted by: Sean Hannity at June 01, 2011 04:25 PM (84oau)
Posted by: SJR2 at June 01, 2011 04:26 PM (oCbCP)
#225
It looks like a bunch of junior high students playing government, right up to the whispers reminding each other what to do.
Posted by: Paper at June 01, 2011 04:27 PM (VoSja)
The Rs did confront him, the question is whether it matters. More of them also need to be better about this in public. But that also presumes a majority of members in the House R Conference are serious.
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at June 01, 2011 04:27 PM (8B3iX)
If Romney wins, will you support his reelection? Against any primary challengers?
Posted by: Serious Cat at June 01, 2011 08:17 PM (bAySe)
It all depends on how big of a fuckup he was. If Romney wins and becomes Major RINO Squishy then yeah I will support primary challengers to bring him to the right.
But here's the thing: We will have a far greater impact in Congress than we will have on the Prez. So at the same time we should be working our butts off to get a conservative House & Senate. Imagine of Congress sends President Romney an ObamaCare repeal bill. He won't dare veto it. He will sign it. But that would only happen if the Senate gets 60 R Senators (which is actually possible this time around, but tough) and a conservative House.
Posted by: chemjeff at June 01, 2011 04:28 PM (7mSYS)
I just don't understand the irrational obsession around here with Rep. Weiner's personal life.
w thomas
By "personal life" you mean a sitting congressman sending pictures of his hard on to a coed? Yeah, I just don't get that either. But you can STFU about the flag on Sarah Palin's bus.
Posted by: kansas at June 01, 2011 04:29 PM (19Xlc)
Posted by: lowandslow at June 01, 2011 04:30 PM (GZitp)
#233
The Senate is incredibly important, but we don't have to get 60 to be ok. We can push through so much with the budget through reconciliation with a simple majority.
Posted by: Paper at June 01, 2011 04:30 PM (VoSja)
219 ChemJeff-
Funny you should mention that - about 3 days ago I posed that question at HA and everyone swore up and down that they would support the nominee- as long as they didn't smear St. Sarah.
Which for a lot of them will mean " No".
Well yeah. Because in a primary campaign, everybody smears everybody else. It ain't ping pong.
Posted by: chemjeff at June 01, 2011 04:30 PM (7mSYS)
Posted by: ÊÑÃÃÇä ÇáÚÑÈ at June 01, 2011 08:20 PM (eebIz)
i didnt understand a word of that, see if you can understand this.
Fuck You.
Posted by: Racefan at June 01, 2011 04:30 PM (FKnHb)
Their bosses don't care, why should they? I mean, I think they should but it's clear few others take this seriously.
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at June 01, 2011 04:35 PM (8B3iX)
I think he meant that the bar for "smear" is set rather low by some of her supporters.
Posted by: Y-not at June 01, 2011 04:35 PM (pW2o8)
This will be a Ruling Class vs. Plebs presidential campaign. It's going to be a political revolutionary struggle on the same level as the 1800 Adams-Burr-Jefferson bruiser and the 1828 Andrew Jackson- JQ Adams donneybrook.
I remember the 1980 race well. I was the election-night GOP observer in a predominantly left-wing precinct. As the ballots were being counted, the room was quiet except for the rustle of the tickets and the somber voices of the MSM anchors on the B&W television. Heh. And the Dems took that precinct 2.5 to 1, instead of the usual 4-1 ratio.
Palin 2012
For the win.
Posted by: mrp at June 01, 2011 04:37 PM (HjPtV)
Posted by: marine43 at June 01, 2011 04:39 PM (J6wcd)
#244
I never thought I would say this, but Alcee Hastings raises some excellent points about future legislation.
Posted by: Paper at June 01, 2011 04:46 PM (VoSja)
Until then, stfu.
Posted by: Unclefacts Luxury-Yacht at June 01, 2011 04:46 PM (6IReR)
Posted by: phreshone at June 01, 2011 04:48 PM (T3vCe)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at June 01, 2011 04:49 PM (mHQ7T)
Posted by: Hammer at June 01, 2011 04:50 PM (hVGDL)
Posted by: Ted Kennedy's Gristle Encased Head at June 01, 2011 04:53 PM (+lsX1)
Posted by: guy that did Ceasar's in the hallway when he wasn't lookin' at June 01, 2011 04:59 PM (PBwG0)
Posted by: guy that did Ceasar's in the hallway when he wasn't lookin' at June 01, 2011 04:59 PM (PBwG0)
#244
I never thought I would say this, but Alcee Hastings raises some excellent points about future legislation.
And what, pray tell, gives the government the right to search me and my belongings at the airport? What gives them the right to drug test federal employees?
As someone who spent her formidable years growing up in section 8 housing, I can assure you that there is very little by way of the humble and noble poor in those places. I know exactly 3 (THREE) people who carried on with their lives in such a way that their adulthoods are not scarred by drugs or crime or alcoholism (or all three).
My grandparents were poor despite my grandfather working his ass off so that he never had to take a handout. My mother and the other ladies in the 'hood, however, did and sold drugs all the while attending PTA meetings.
Do not be taken in by the stories of the noble poor. They absolutely exist, but my experience tells me they don't exist in the numbers you might have been led to believe.
Go ahead... lay it on me. I'm a cold-hearted bitch.
Yeah, yeah...here's a quarter.
Posted by: Clueless at June 01, 2011 05:03 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Supervisor 194 at June 01, 2011 05:06 PM (qpstS)
Racefan, I have my own favorite version.
Posted by: Clueless at June 01, 2011 05:11 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Annie Coulter at June 01, 2011 05:21 PM (BZEkR)
That chopper would have flown, for that period of time in approximately that area, and the Governor caught a right.
I spent two weeks in Acaupulco, doing nothing but chasing tale and drinking, PAID, after riding on a government transport (the USS Boxer) I dangled like a rider on whatever the amusement ride at the top of Rio is, but we called it "spy rigging" I have had a lot of experiences that most people would think of as entertainment but I can tell you this, the 2 times I worked "cover" (I was the com guy, for a nothing ambassador, in a non-hostile country) I took my job seriously, but the amabassader was emberassed by the attention.
Rightfully so, but he was a bigwig, we treated him like a bigwig for a frigging 4 mile trip, and he deserved it. That's what happens when you are a big wig.
Not to mention I also have been to many other countries flyging Military plains at a premium, because they were available, one of my friends hit 17 nations in 30 days. Are you gonna blame a Marine for doing something that is available? Christie needed protection so the state police thought "EH! Lets use it as a training exercise." That is what people who have shit to do do.
Stupid non story, and NOT bad optics, at least not with the military, or likely the cops. I say that the catchphrase for the election should be, "The President has the Academics behind him, WE have the Millitary, The Police, The fireman, we have Harsh men who do hard things behind us. I know who I would choose, and I hope the American people agree!"
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