August 03, 2011
— Ace I won't do this all day again. I'll just recap what has been said and move on.
A good video compilation of the various slurs here, at Big Journalism.
Taranto first recaps the ghoulish joy with which liberals greeted the shooting of Gabby Giffords-- exemplified by Jonathan Alter, for example, plotting out future political strategy...
Sad to say, if Giffords had died, she would have been mourned and soon the conversation would have moved on. But Giffords lives, thank God, which offers other possibilities. We won't know for weeks or months whether she can function in public. If she can, she will prove a powerful referee of the boundaries of public discourse--more influential, perhaps, than the president himself.
...then turns to their current posture:
"Terrorist," "racist," "uncivil," "insane," the list goes on--in this context, these words have no real meaning. They are mere epithets. The Obama presidency has reduced the liberal left to an apoplectic rage. His Ivy League credentials, superior attitude, pseudointellectual mien and facile adherence to lefty ideology make him the perfect personification of the liberal elite. Thus far at least, he has been an utter failure both at winning public support and at managing the affairs of the nation.Obama's failure is the failure of the liberal elite, and that is why their ressentiment has reached such intensity. Their ideas, such as they are, are being put to a real-world test and found severely wanting. As a result, their authority is collapsing. And if there is one thing they know deep in their bones, it is that they are entitled to that authority. They lash out, desperately and pathetically, because they have nothing to offer but fear and anger.
The House erupted in applause as Arizona Rep. Gabrielle Giffords returned to DC and voted in favor of the bill. It was her first appearance on Capitol Hill since being shot last January.Meanwhile, some wonderful news: Thanks to America's superlative medical system, Rep. Giffords has recovered sufficiently that she returned to Congress last night to cast a vote on the debt deal. She looked frail and shaky as she exchanged greetings with colleagues from both sides of the aisle, but she also talked and waved and seemed completely alert. Even watching at home on C-Span, it was hard not to be moved. "The #Capitol looks beautiful and I am honored to be at work tonight," Giffords tweeted last night.
Giffords voted "yes" on the bill--the one to which the Tea Party "terrorists" had forced the president to agree.
It’s almost hard to recall how the left howled about “civility” in the wake of the Tucson shooting horror. But that was then, and the standards the left sets for the right is one it hardly adheres to. We had Vice President Joe Biden’s now-denied comments casting Republicans in the role of “terrorists.” And then the hometown newspaper for liberal elites got into the act.There’s no denying the depths — and hypocrisy — to which the New York Times opinion section has sunk.
Liberal (ish?) Charles Lane at the WaPo at least has the guts to call a spade a spade.
I'm omitting his various "to be sures" here -- his declaration of bona fides of opposition to the Tea Party agenda -- because they're not relevant, but they do paint him as part of Team Liberal.
If liberals believe anything, it is that the right is either solely, or mostly, responsible for the degradation of political discourse in America. And they are surely correct to condemn such ugly rhetorical excesses as the Obama-is-Hitler placards that flowered across the land in the summer of 2009.But liberals are in deep, deep denial about their own incivility issues. Consider the “terrorism” analogy now being aimed at the Tea Party by Democratic members of Congress — in the acquiescent presence of the vice president, no less — and by some journalists who sympathize with the Democrats. To pick just one example of the genre, today’s New York Times carries Joe Nocera’s column, “Tea Party’s War Against America.”
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I’m puzzled. The Times editorial board only recently condemned “many on the right” for “exploit[ing] the arguments of division,” and “demonizing immigrants, or welfare recipients, or bureaucrats.” Right-wingers, The Times notes, “seem to have persuaded many Americans that the government is not just misguided, but the enemy of the people.”
So how can it be okay for Times columnists to demonize the Tea Party and try to persuade Americans that they are not just misguided, but the enemies of the people?
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There are real terrorists out there: Hezbollah, Hamas, al Qaeda, Iran’s rulers. Yet some of the same people who are slapping the “terror” label on the Tea Party and condemning Obama for dealing with them also advocate outreach to Mideast terrorists, if not to negotiate with them, at least to understand of what makes them tick.
Nocera’s colleague Tom Friedman, for example, has excoriated the Tea Party as the “Hezbollah faction” of the Republican party but has also argued that the U.S. must not isolate Mideast radicals if they are “change agents who are seen as legitimate and rooted in their own cultures.”
“They may not be America’s cup of tea,” Friedman instructed. “But we need to know about them, and understand where our interests converge — not just demonize them all.”
ShouldnÂ’t progressives extend the Tea Party that same courtesy, given that they are at least, you know, Americans?
Terrorists are not terrorists, and must be understood, but non-terrorists are in fact terrorists, and should be treated as "the Other," demonized, and dismissed.
Got that?
Bill O'Reilly and Krauthammer debate whether this is all orchestrated and coordinated. Krauthammer doesn't think so (video at the link).
“Well, it certainly is a spitting and the sputtering of people who are, who’ve been deeply defeated,” Krauthammer said. “I mean, they were routed. They were up against a small minority of one half of one-third of the Congress and they got — they lost everything. They got routed. Look, this was their Agincourt, you know, Henry V outnumbered by the French, three to one. The opposition, the liberals, hold the Senate. They hold the White House. They hold the media, which had been leaking and parroting the White House line all the way through, and they still got defeated.“I think this is sort of a pathetic response. If you have no arguments, what do you do? Ad hominems. You attack, you throw names out. But I have one slight disagreement with you [about this] being a conspiracy [coordinated through left-wing mailing lists of a type similar to Jornolist]. I don’t think these people have the wherewithal to orchestrate a three-car motorcade. The reason for the repetition is lack of intelligence and lack of originality. These are people who are slothful.”
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“Look, what it means to me is you’ve got people with no intelligence, no originality, no imagination,” he said. “They are sputtering. They have lost. No arguments. What do they do? They want ad hominems. They want epithets. So, somebody uses it on the air — ‘Ah ha, that’s a good one. I’ll use it.’ I don’t credit them [with] the intelligence or the sort of, what it takes to put together a conspiracy.”
I don't know if it's a conspiracy so much as a stupid meme spreading like wildfire through weak minds who seize on it because they have nothing else. One example that that may be the case is Maureen Dowd's latest vapidity. She gives it the "Dowd Spin" -- and by Dowd Spin, I mean she just starts analogizing things to movies and TV -- for her own Tea Party Terrorists column (safe link to NRO, which rebuts her):
They were like cannibals, eating their own party and leaders alive. They were like vampires, draining the country’s reputation, credit rating and compassion. They were like zombies, relentlessly and mindlessly coming back again and again to assault their unnerved victims, Boehner and President Obama. They were like the metallic beasts in “Alien” flashing mouths of teeth inside other mouths of teeth, bursting out of Boehner’s stomach every time he came to a bouquet of microphones.
It was stupid and hateful in its earlier incarnations; Dowd also decides to make it cutesy-trivial, as usual.
Sarah Palin has a very effective rejoinder to this terrorist talk (vid at the link):
If we were really domestic terrorists, shoot, President Obama would be wanting to pal around with us wouldnÂ’t he? I mean he didnÂ’t have a problem with paling around with Bill Ayers back in the day when he kicked off his political career in Bill Ayers apartment, and shaking hands with Chavez and saying he doesnÂ’t need any preconditions with meeting dictators or wanting to read US Miranda rights to alleged suspected foreign terrorists. No if we were real domestic terrorists I think President Obama wouldnÂ’t have a problem with us.
That's a good answer. The left has opened the door on this issue: Let us walk right through it, and proclaim that while they are discussing metaphorical terrorists, these bastards do in fact "pal around with" and make nice-nice with actual terrorists.
And what would their response be?
You know what response I'd love? If they accused Palin of incivility in this response. That would be delicious.
I'd push this talking point just to see if we could get them to make that claim.
As far as our civility-minded President, his spokesman Jay Carney says, in response to a reporter's question, that such talk isn't "appropriate," the lowest level of condemnation possible.
Allah says he "checks the box" here and that's precisely right -- he offers a weak, perfunctory, obligatory statement it's not "appropriate," then says nothing more; if asked later, they can point back to this weak statement to demonstrate their "consistency" on the issue.
But this isn't consistency. We had three weeks of claims the right caused murder in January based on lesser Discourse Offenses than what we've seen in the last 24 hours; simply chiding one's side with the nothing word "appropriate" is hardly genuine consistency.
Consistency would be Obama making a five minute speech, of his own volition, not in response to a question, specifically condemning the left for its excesses.
But this is how Obama always plays it. His surrogates and his media enablers peddle venom and racial appeals, and then he issues a terse statement that he finds such talk "unhelpful" or whatever. He enjoys the fruits of the venom but claims to be above it himself.
Since the media still loves Obama, we can tell how much they believe his slight criticisms by how they behave: If they thought he was on the level, they'd stop. They love him, after all.
But they know he's giving them the Obama Wink, so they continue indulging.
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You forgot 'baby kidnappers'!!!1!1!!
Posted by: Chrissy Matthews at August 03, 2011 09:59 AM (1fQxU)
The nastiest things I've ever been called I have been called by those who declare themselves to be ever so very tolerant. This doesn't surprise me at all.
Posted by: alexthechick at August 03, 2011 09:59 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: totally curious AND innapropriate at August 03, 2011 09:59 AM (qiOph)
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 03, 2011 10:00 AM (jx2j9)
Posted by: Jimmy's Attack Rabbit at August 03, 2011 10:01 AM (UTd0+)
Dowd is a joke. An old dried up ugly hag of a joke.
Where was she when the Lefty mobs were terrorizing and vandalizing the WI state house for weeks???
Posted by: soothie at August 03, 2011 10:01 AM (sqkOB)
Posted by: FireHorse at August 03, 2011 10:02 AM (gTGz3)
I don't think it's coordinated but they are all of the same groupthink mindset so it's not surprising when they all start using the same names to label their opposition..
In many ways, they remind me of the sheep in 'Animal Farm' where they would bleat whatever the pigs wanted to be the message of the day.
Posted by: Dave C at August 03, 2011 10:02 AM (rus4r)
If you merely disagree with Obama, you're a terrorist.
If you tear up the state house and make death threats to state legislators, you're an educator doing it for the children.
Posted by: soothie at August 03, 2011 10:03 AM (sqkOB)
Dowd is a joke. An old dried up ugly hag of a joke.
Where was she when the Lefty mobs were terrorizing and vandalizing the WI state house for weeks???
Posted by: soothie at August 03, 2011 02:01 PM (sqkOB)
Offering up her Sahara-like cooter in bars all over Manhattan, and not getting any takers.
Posted by: joncelli at August 03, 2011 10:03 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: FireHorse at August 03, 2011 10:04 AM (gTGz3)
civility?
don't care for it, gets in the way of solving problems.
they can call me whatever they want, it's only a reflection of who they are and says nothing about me.
Posted by: Sgt. Batguano at August 03, 2011 10:04 AM (jdOk/)
Posted by: Hedley Lamar Tea Party organizer at August 03, 2011 10:04 AM (TMB3S)
Posted by: I am Jimmicus at August 03, 2011 10:04 AM (sxq57)
Just want to remind everyone...
David Wu, rapist and pedophile (allegedly), is The Face of the Democrat Party.
Posted by: soothie at August 03, 2011 10:05 AM (sqkOB)
he doesnÂ’t need any preconditions with meeting dictators
Yeah, what ever happened to that campaign pledge anyway?
Citizen: "Would you be willing to meet separately, without precondition, during the first year of your administration, in Washington or anywhere else, with the leaders of Iran, Syria, Venezuela, Cuba, and North Korea?"
Obama: "I would."
--Democrat primary campaign 2007
Posted by: arhooley at August 03, 2011 10:06 AM (Eeror)
Posted by: Mr Pink at August 03, 2011 10:06 AM (TcZpT)
Posted by: FireHorse at August 03, 2011 02:04 PM (gTGz3)
Care to elaborate?
Posted by: eastvalleyphx at August 03, 2011 10:06 AM (qiOph)
"The elderly schoolgirl columnist of the New York Times" -- Mark Steyn
Posted by: AmishDude at August 03, 2011 10:07 AM (T0NGe)
Posted by: FireHorse at August 03, 2011 10:07 AM (gTGz3)
Posted by: Y-not at August 03, 2011 10:07 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Hedley Lamar Tea Party organizer at August 03, 2011 02:04 PM (TMB3S)
i'll say it again - a guy can never go wrong with a Blazing Saddles reference.
Posted by: Sgt. Batguano at August 03, 2011 10:07 AM (jdOk/)
Posted by: Brown Line at August 03, 2011 10:07 AM (VrNoa)
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 03, 2011 10:08 AM (jx2j9)
So we're terrorists for "holding the country hostage"? Okay, then: For what you're doing to future generations, you are pedophiles. Own it.
Posted by: AmishDude at August 03, 2011 10:08 AM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Y-not at August 03, 2011 02:07 PM (5H6zj)
Yes, but he has definitely taken populism to a whole new level, no question.
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 03, 2011 10:09 AM (jx2j9)
The Democrats have already entered their 'retreat' mode.
Smear, retreat, call for civility, repeat.
It's the same routine from these Wu Party fucks.
Posted by: soothie at August 03, 2011 10:09 AM (sqkOB)
It's what I do.
Posted by: Eric Holder, Friend to Terrorists All Over the World at August 03, 2011 10:10 AM (3Okgs)
Posted by: Y-not at August 03, 2011 02:07 PM (5H6zj)
i can't watch BOR anymore, i've switched to watching Judge Nat. on FBN
Posted by: Sgt. Batguano at August 03, 2011 10:10 AM (jdOk/)
http://tinyurl.com/3wqcxb5
Posted by: Shiggz at August 03, 2011 10:10 AM (v8Pb8)
Posted by: eastvalleyphx at August 03, 2011 10:11 AM (qiOph)
Hit & Run.
They throw a bunch of shit at us and then run away. Then they're like, "What? What did we do?"
Posted by: soothie at August 03, 2011 10:11 AM (sqkOB)
Sure, if you watched MSNBC, that's all you saw, but the fact is that what there were of those signs were usually tucked away in the LaRouchie corner of Tea Party protests, only visible to the media.
Besides, Obama isn't Hitler. He's Mussolini.
Posted by: AmishDude at August 03, 2011 10:11 AM (T0NGe)
Nice.
Posted by: that guy that compliments other's obscure cultural references at August 03, 2011 10:11 AM (GTbGH)
Posted by: eastvalleyphx at August 03, 2011 02:11 PM (qiOph)
He's making Dowdesque movie/TV analogies.
Dowdesque in that they make no sense whatsoever.
Posted by: AmishDude at August 03, 2011 10:12 AM (T0NGe)
DUDE we are sooooo COOOOOL!
We are like your worst horror nightmare.
We just need to add Terminator Robot, Were Beast, Frankenstein Monster, and Unholy Demon and WE ARE SET as the most fearful thing to ever have existed!
Posted by: MikeTheCannibalVampireZombieAlienHobbitKidnappingTerroristWereMoose at August 03, 2011 10:12 AM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Barry XVI at August 03, 2011 10:12 AM (FcR7P)
And just when I was gonna serve espresso.
Posted by: Gene Hackman at August 03, 2011 10:13 AM (3Okgs)
Posted by: eastvalleyphx at August 03, 2011 10:13 AM (qiOph)
Care to elaborate?
Sure. Michael J. Fox played a teenage werewolf in Teen Wolf. He was also on the basketball team. Throughout the movie, he hid the fact that he was a werewolf, just like the Tea Party tries to hide its nature as a dangerous monster, inherently dangerous, looking to draw blood and turn others into werewolves. In the big scene at the end, he turns into a werewolf during a basketball game in front of everyone. He used his werewolf abilities to score a lot of points and win the game. No one cared; he was the hero -- just like the Tea Party is getting its way on the tax issue in Washington. Republicans cheer, just like the people did in the movie, ignoring the fact that their champions are white, hairy-faced monsters.
(That might make a little too much sense if Maureen Dowd is the standard, but you get the idea.)
Posted by: FireHorse at August 03, 2011 10:13 AM (gTGz3)
The Tea Party is like a teenage werewolf, scoring points in the big basketball game and satifying its fan base while desperately attempting to hide its true nature.
And I'm like the extra at the end of Teenage Wolf who had his nuts hanging out during the scene where Michael J. Fox scores the winning basket and comes over to the stands to hug his girlfriend
It happened, type teen wolf wang into youtube.
Posted by: Ben at August 03, 2011 10:14 AM (wuv1c)
Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp at August 03, 2011 02:13 PM (qjUnn)
Neither can we!
Posted by: Undead Democrats at August 03, 2011 10:14 AM (RD7QR)
I did that a little while back to a pastor (for crying out loud) on facebook. This guy got all upset at the stuff that Gov. Walker was doing and made the teabagger slur on facebook.
I simply said "Hey, better a teabagger than a teabaggee. How do my balls taste?"
He didn't reply, but I got a couple of "attaboys".
Call the jerks on this stuff. Do it in public, and as often as you can.
Posted by: GMan at August 03, 2011 10:14 AM (sxq57)
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...wait, what was I saying?
Posted by: Maureen Dowd, bowing to the inevitable at August 03, 2011 10:14 AM (T0NGe)
As opposed to the 'Bush is Hitler' signs that flowered across the land from 2001 - 2009.
Posted by: Tami at August 03, 2011 10:14 AM (X6akg)
And conveniently, the article's douchebag author fails to mention it.
Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at August 03, 2011 10:15 AM (1rHeD)
Posted by: mpfs, Joo Tea Party Terrorist at August 03, 2011 10:15 AM (iYbLN)
And just when I was gonna serve espresso.
Posted by: Gene Hackman at August 03, 2011 02:13 PM (3Okgs)
The media is Frau Blucher.
"He vas mein boyfriend!!!!"
Posted by: AmishDude at August 03, 2011 10:16 AM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Ben at August 03, 2011 10:16 AM (wuv1c)
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 03, 2011 10:17 AM (jx2j9)
Posted by: FireHorse at August 03, 2011 10:17 AM (gTGz3)
Posted by: Tami at August 03, 2011 02:14 PM (X6akg)
Thank you.
Also, the Bush-as-a-chimp, but I guess we don't go there.
Posted by: AmishDude at August 03, 2011 10:17 AM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at August 03, 2011 10:17 AM (/kd4o)
"But they know he's giving them the Obama Wink, so they continue indulging."
This is going to come back to bite them in the Ass. At some point I have to beleive that American's are going to wake up and see clearly the media bias.......and when that day comes......Americans will vote and think exact opposite of the Democrats and the Media rhetoric on principle.
Americans have a habit of this type of behavior. Even Lefty's [Note: not the hardcore Marxists types, but normal emotional well-intended Lefty's] will turn on them and hand over the entire thing to anybody not Demcorat.
The problem is I just don't think we are there yet.....A good amount of Economic Pain is going to be required before the country awakens.
Posted by: Jimi at August 03, 2011 10:17 AM (JMsOK)
I had civility once but the doc gave me a shot of penicillan and cleared it right up.
Now I can show my dick in public again.
Posted by: Anchovy Weiner at August 03, 2011 10:18 AM (J74Py)
Posted by: Professor Fate, Tea Party Terrorist at August 03, 2011 10:18 AM (iYbLN)
You mean there is a section that is not an "opinion section" in the NYT?
Posted by: Vic at August 03, 2011 10:19 AM (M9Ie6)
Here's a hint: Guess who's using non-union labor at his 50th birthday party?
No, guess.
Posted by: AmishDude at August 03, 2011 10:19 AM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Old Farmer Johnson at August 03, 2011 10:19 AM (3Okgs)
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 03, 2011 10:19 AM (jx2j9)
Posted by: FireHorse at August 03, 2011 10:20 AM (gTGz3)
Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at August 03, 2011 10:20 AM (agD4m)
No, guess.
Posted by: AmishDude at August 03, 2011 02:19 PM (T0NGe)
I just read that! HAHAHAHA!
Here's the article:
Posted by: Tami at August 03, 2011 10:21 AM (X6akg)
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at August 03, 2011 10:21 AM (0f7gD)
Posted by: Jolly Green Giant, Tea Party Terrorist at August 03, 2011 10:21 AM (iYbLN)
The difference now is that they don't own the microphone any more: we can talk back - and my God, how they just hate that!
Word. I can't tell you how many discussions with my (usually) sensible lib friends have gone off the rails since JEF got elected. If they even begin to listen to you, the moment you pause for breath they'll get right into your face, demanding "who told you that?" "where did you hear that?" Say anything other than NYT/ABC/CNN/ ad nauseam, they wave their hands and say"well, that's just propaganda / bias/ preaching to the choir."
So I've given up any talk of politics. Oh, if I'm asked, I'll give my opinion (and Mrs. MPPPC wishes I wouldn't), but I don't start the arguments. I damn well finish them, though - I pull the "where did you hear that?" stunt. If it comes from the MFM, I just laugh. And my God, do they hate when you laugh at them!
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Clitoris at August 03, 2011 10:21 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: Waterhouse at August 03, 2011 10:22 AM (pdCUF)
Posted by: Peggy Joseph at August 03, 2011 10:22 AM (qR9y8)
Posted by: MikeTheCannibalVampireZombieAlienHobbitKidnappingTerroristWereMoose at August 03, 2011 10:23 AM (0q2P7)
If I'm going to be called a terrorist.....
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at August 03, 2011 02:17 PM (/kd4o)
Excellent.
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 03, 2011 10:23 AM (jx2j9)
Posted by: FireHorse at August 03, 2011 10:24 AM (gTGz3)
Oh, what a world, what a world.......
Posted by: WW - Western Region at August 03, 2011 10:24 AM (3Okgs)
Simple reality point two is that Democrats and Socialists/Communists are de facto pure of heart and work only for the masses, thus anything said about that is not appreciative/congratulatory/laudatory, is inherently a crime against humanity and deserves the scorn of civilized men (and women and gay and bi- and lesbian and transgendered and confused etc.) everywhere at all times and all places, especially in the MFM and the public schools.
Posted by: Obot Spokesman at August 03, 2011 10:25 AM (yrGif)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Clitoris at August 03, 2011 02:21 PM (zF6Iw)
You know what they really hate? When you call them stupid.
You can pick something really sophomoric, my favorite is "What did you major in?" followed by a snort of a laugh.
And then...oh, well I can see why you think Obama is smart, then.
Posted by: AmishDude at August 03, 2011 10:25 AM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Mr. Furley at August 03, 2011 10:26 AM (3Okgs)
Posted by: Captain Hate at August 03, 2011 10:26 AM (zsvKP)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 03, 2011 10:27 AM (FkKjr)
I'll do you one better: Loughner's mom was an SEIU member.
Posted by: AmishDude at August 03, 2011 10:27 AM (T0NGe)
all through the Boooosh years, all we heard was US Military -baby killer, Cheney Halliburton Blood for OIL, Nazi Booosh, Effigys burned of Bush- Cheney, Boosh Hitler, Even those of us that supported our troops were called murderers!
And they have the frkn gaul to say our words are incinderary?
Pelosi comes out and calls tea party Nazis yet they are offended if one of theirs is also called Nazis?
Terrorists, Nazi symapthizers, Ignorant, have all been used and using the Media to propogate these idea using propanganda to dishonor and malign half the country , The Leaders of the Part in Power saying these things , this is not joe Blow BUT the leaders with Power that can indeed bring harm by incitement to others of a political ideology!
Hypocrits and inciters of divisive Hate mongering every damn'd one of them.
Posted by: willow at August 03, 2011 10:27 AM (h+qn8)
Posted by: Professor Fate, Tea Party Terrorist at August 03, 2011 02:18 PM (iYbLN)
you owe me a new computer monitor, i just spit pop all over this one.
Posted by: Sgt. Batguano at August 03, 2011 10:27 AM (jdOk/)
"The Dems lost everything to the teacrackaz" is the got-nothin' defensive-loser meme of this story. What did they lose? Nothing. Everything is going up. What did the 'baggers win? Nothing. Everything is going up.
Nothing Kraut says in that quote has any basis in reality. It's just a recital of things people say—people with no intelligence, no originality, no imagination. "Half of one third!" "There's no Journolist!" Etc.
This part here where his true lefty self pokes through is my favorite, because it looks like it's nothing: "small minority."
"I'm big!" Yeah, a big cunt full of shit.
Posted by: oblig. at August 03, 2011 10:27 AM (xvZW9)
They hate it even more when you call Obama stupid. I was talking to a group of college students one day and made the comment that "by his own admission, Obama wasn't a very dedicated student in his pre-Columbia days."
You could actually see their heads spinning. "NO NOT TRUE! SMARTEST PRESIDENT EVER! LAW REVIEW!!!!!!"
Hilarious.
Posted by: Lauren at August 03, 2011 10:28 AM (WR6Id)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff, Jesusland Liberation Army - Political Terror Brigade at August 03, 2011 10:28 AM (lbo6/)
This was a good one, Ace. Thanks. I can delay my drinking to the cocktail hour. And not talk in tongues to the staff.
Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at August 03, 2011 10:28 AM (qwK3S)
If I'm going to be called a terrorist.....
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at August 03, 2011 02:17 PM (/kd4o)
Excellent.
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 03, 2011 02:23 PM (jx2j9)
Seconded. Apply for a cob-logger-ship.
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at August 03, 2011 10:29 AM (0f7gD)
Posted by: AmishDude at August 03, 2011 02:27 PM (T0NGe)
I thought that was the case but wasn't sure and erased it before posting it; unlike the left, I care about not maligning somebody unjustly. Thanks for pointing that out.
Posted by: Captain Hate at August 03, 2011 10:29 AM (zsvKP)
I see what you did there.
Posted by: eastvalleyphx at August 03, 2011 10:29 AM (qiOph)
If I were to have a full-frontal lobotomy, the piece of my brain they'd take out could graduate from Harvard Law. I went to high school with somebody who did. No big deal. It's not like there's any math or anything.
Or a dissertation. Or original thinking.
Or competition from foreign students.
Posted by: AmishDude at August 03, 2011 10:30 AM (T0NGe)
-The 'Civility' shit was simply to indict the Right, primariliy Palin and the Tea Party, but the Right overall.
-They began the 'Civility' shit by indicting the Right with a charge of fomenting murder, with no evidence whatsoever. Not exactly a 'civil' discussion in itself, is it?
-Jared Loughner has no links to any political thought on the Right. So the very premise is a sham.
The 'Civility' shit is just a weapon of the moment. They'll use it when they can, abandon it when it suits them, and never concern themselves with the disconnect there. They want to win, not to play fair.
Posted by: nickless at August 03, 2011 10:30 AM (MMC8r)
John Q Public has an annual income of $50,000 per year, but is currently spending at $83,200 per year. Living in with him is his father who trusted him with $56,100 to invest, but John Q Public has spent it all, so he must repay as his father needs it. Along comes accountant, Mr. T. Party, who tells representatives of John Q Public that this can't go on.
Mr. T. Party is obvious a "terrorist" for not letting John Q Public spend more ?
Makes perfect sense to me.
Posted by: Barney Frank at August 03, 2011 10:30 AM (e8kgV)
@78
I did all my battleing before the election. I saw what was coming, and I could have told you we would be in this exact spot (3) years ago. As a matter of fact I lost every single one of the idiots friends over it.....but victory is sweet.....cause now they won't even "go there" because some of the stuff I was telling them not only came true, but is way worse than I even led on.
In my experience, Liberals go off the rails if you actually sit down with data and calculator, relevant articles....ect, and walk thru the entire debate and prove them wrong. If you do this...they will never talk to you again. I used to be aggressive and thorough, but about a year ago....I gave up on it all....and I realized most people don't even want to know the truth......it is too painfull for them. Something about "Ignorance is Bliss"
It has been a hard life lesson for me!
Posted by: Jimi at August 03, 2011 10:30 AM (JMsOK)
Posted by: JackStraw at August 03, 2011 10:31 AM (TMB3S)
Posted by: FireHorse at August 03, 2011 10:31 AM (gTGz3)
Posted by: LGoPs at August 03, 2011 10:31 AM (6e/5m)
Posted by: Jesse Payola Jackson, Super Adult and shit. at August 03, 2011 10:32 AM (/ZZCn)
Posted by: Maureen Dowd's Breakfast Cereal Draft at August 03, 2011 10:33 AM (ZY+lZ)
Posted by: AmishDude at August 03, 2011 02:27 PM (T0NGe)
I
thought that was the case but wasn't sure and erased it before posting
it; unlike the left, I care about not maligning somebody unjustly.
Thanks for pointing that out.
Posted by: Captain Hate at August 03, 2011 02:29 PM (zsvKP)
We know this because the Pima County employees unionized in 2007. His mom was a Pima County employee. I suppose -- suppose -- it's possible she is some sort of exempt employee, but I take silence for assent and I think it's perfectly appropriate to say so unless corrected.
Posted by: AmishDude at August 03, 2011 10:33 AM (T0NGe)
Jimmy Mad ... Jimmy Smash
Posted by: Jimmy at August 03, 2011 10:33 AM (Y+DPZ)
@47: "The Tea Party is like Frankenstein, but not the original Frankenstein, the one in Young Frankenstein, who was just trying to have a nice dinner, but then got upset over a little fire and went running off into the night in a rage."
Frankenstein is the doctor; the monster is Adam.
Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at August 03, 2011 10:34 AM (xy9wk)
I calmly pointed out that the criteria for Law Review editor was changed just before Obama came along to be more "inclusive."
Their response? In unison, everyone: RACIST!
Posted by: Lauren at August 03, 2011 10:35 AM (WR6Id)
Posted by: Maureen Dowd's Breakfast Cereal Draft at August 03, 2011 10:35 AM (ZY+lZ)
I would point out the hidden DOG WHISTLE!!!!!1!! in that quote, except I don't want the observation to be misconstrued.
Posted by: The Chap in the Deerstalker Cap at August 03, 2011 10:35 AM (qndXR)
Posted by: logprof, al-Reagan Martyrs Brigade at August 03, 2011 10:36 AM (BP6Z1)
Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at August 03, 2011 10:36 AM (cbyrC)
Posted by: crosspatch at August 03, 2011 10:36 AM (ZbLJZ)
Yeah, everyone would have gotten that reference immediately.
"The Tea Party is like Adam, who ran away when he burned his thumb just when I was about to make espresso."
Posted by: Gene Hackman at August 03, 2011 10:37 AM (3Okgs)
Posted by: Lauren at August 03, 2011 02:35 PM (WR6Id)
Projection.
Moynihan kindly called it the "soft bigotry of low expectations."
I call it "paternalistic condescension."
Posted by: AmishDude at August 03, 2011 10:37 AM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Mr Pink at August 03, 2011 10:37 AM (TcZpT)
@119
It's called Gamesmanship! It is one of the reason's I love Sarah Palin. Of course, I would never vote for her, and I don't think she can win, but I still Love her, and wish more Republicans had her skills.
Posted by: Jimi at August 03, 2011 10:37 AM (JMsOK)
Ignore them. Let us work on our own local level to educate and to persuade all who are willing to listen and to think. At a gut level, the majority of people in this country well understand that you cannot spend what you do not have.We, the people will find a way through this, while they, their castles built on and of government sand and all who cower within will suffer defeat and despair.
Posted by: No Whining at August 03, 2011 10:38 AM (0AClR)
Posted by: steevy at August 03, 2011 10:38 AM (zSEO5)
"NO, NOT TRUE! SMARTEST PRESIDENT EVER!"
Oh, Lauren, you are so right. I almost made my wife's boss pop a vein at a work barbeque when he was going on about how good it was to have a man in the White House who could actually speak English.
"Yeah, he's not like that dumbass Bush," I said. "That fuckin' moron. Couldn't tie his shoes without a teleprompter." The guy starts smiling and nodding.
"Remember how he said he was visiting 57 states? And that we were experiencing a Teutonic shift?" The guy's smile started to fade, and my wife began making a "shut the hell up" face behind his back.
"And that he thought 'corpsman' was pronounced corpse-man? And that he had no idea what comprehensive insurance was? And that he thought they spoke Austrian in Austria? And, oh, yeah, remember when he wished Mexicans a happy Cinco de Quatro - "
Hoo, boy - he started screaming about teabaggers, GOP fucks, "that cunt Palin" and on and on. It was a real eye-opener for everybody at the party, and a couple of my wife's co-workers came up to me on the QT later to say thanks. Of course, now my wife won't take me to any more of her company's parties - so, Mission Accomplished!
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Clitoris at August 03, 2011 10:39 AM (zF6Iw)
@125
That's brings up another topic. The left are the clear Racists in this country. Always have been. Go talk to Psycologist, and ther'll give you the run down. You damn right it is "Projection"
Anyone that focused on Race, and those that use it as a weapon.....are the clear Racists!
Posted by: Jimi at August 03, 2011 10:39 AM (JMsOK)
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 03, 2011 10:40 AM (jx2j9)
Posted by: steevy at August 03, 2011 10:40 AM (zSEO5)
anyone that thinks the Tea Party is hiding their true intentions is simply projecting their own methods onto the Tea Party. If you can't see what the Tea Party objectives then you are blind, ignorant or stupid or a combination of all 3.
When a man says that an individual mandate is wrong, then pushes for and signs a bill that creates one who was hiding his true intentions ?
When a man says he's going to close Gitmo down in a year then doesn't who is hiding his true intentions ?
When a man claims that a 12 month debt extension will harm the country but a 18 month extension is fine who is hiding his true intentions ?
When a man says that marriage is between a man and women then refuses to defnend the DOMA is court who is lying about his intentions ?
When a man says that you'll be able to keep your doctor or your health care plan if you like them who is lying about their intentions ?
When a man says "As I've said before" then goes on to says something for the first time in his life who is lying about their intentions ?
Posted by: Jeff at August 03, 2011 10:40 AM (A3tpD)
The same man who years earlier had asked a crazy incoherent question of her at a meeting and she dismissed/ignored him. (including his follow up hate mail and threats) This made him very very angry and was the reason he gave for why he plotted to kill her.
Posted by: Shiggz at August 03, 2011 10:41 AM (v8Pb8)
@130
"This is a guy who wouldn't release a BC that contained nothing negative."
Let's No Go There! The Birth Certificate issue was conceded for political purposes, and political purposes only!
Posted by: Jimi at August 03, 2011 10:42 AM (JMsOK)
Posted by: Happy, The Slightly Retarded Tea Party Terrorist Dwarf at August 03, 2011 10:42 AM (iYbLN)
I'm not holding my breath.
Posted by: Hrothgar at August 03, 2011 10:42 AM (yrGif)
Posted by: Brendan at August 03, 2011 10:42 AM (U6MtO)
Posted by: Maureen Dowd's Rock Band Draft at August 03, 2011 10:43 AM (ZY+lZ)
They were like cannibals, eating their own party and leaders alive.
Bleah! Can you imagine anything more unappetizing than a Boehner brisket? It would be all fatty and textureless, no muscle in it at all.
Posted by: Cannibal Warthog at August 03, 2011 10:43 AM (WDySP)
Posted by: Ezra Klein and Journolist at August 03, 2011 10:44 AM (paVWK)
he offers a weak, perfunctory, obligatory statement it's not "appropriate," then says nothing more; if asked later, they can point back to this weak statement to demonstrate their "consistency" on the issue.
That was precisely the point of Obama's three-word acknowledgment, during the Az. shooting "memorial" service. He spent 40 minutes implying GOP rhetoric caused it, and added "It did not" as a legal out.
Posted by: CJ at August 03, 2011 10:44 AM (9KqcB)
Posted by: Stanley Anne Dunham at August 03, 2011 10:45 AM (RdKzV)
Damn that WSJ peace was great.
Damn... for the hat trick
http://twitter.com/#!/ShiggzKenobi
Posted by: Shiggz at August 03, 2011 10:46 AM (v8Pb8)
Posted by: mpfs, Joo Tea Party Terrorist at August 03, 2011 10:47 AM (iYbLN)
@102: "If I were to have a full-frontal lobotomy, the piece of my brain they'd take out could graduate from Harvard Law. I went to high school with somebody who did. No big deal. It's not like there's any math or anything.
Or a dissertation. Or original thinking.
Or competition from foreign students."
Or an accurate thought in your head, but that's only to be expected.
Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at August 03, 2011 10:48 AM (xy9wk)
The economy is like San Francisco 49ers playing the Denver Broncos in the Super Bowl -- knocking Elway on his ass, scoring at will, rolling to a 55-10 victory ...
... unexpectedly!
Posted by: FireHorse at August 03, 2011 10:48 AM (gTGz3)
If those grades were consistent with the level of intelligence that the MBM claimed for The Smartest Man Ever to Walk the Earth, ie "godlike" "IQ is off the charts" then they'd be cast in a bronze plaque on every street in Washington.
This is a guy who did an end zone dance over swatting a fly, and he's so humble he won't release the transcripts that would prove he's brilliant? We never hear the end of how he was editor of Harvard Law Review and never will hear at all how he was the only editor who never wrote an article for it
Posted by: kbdabear at August 03, 2011 10:48 AM (Y+DPZ)
They were like cannibals, eating their own party and leaders alive.
Bleah! Can you imagine anything more unappetizing than a Boehner brisket? It would be all fatty and textureless, no muscle in it at all.
Posted by: Cannibal WarthogI think Mitch McConnell ( R-Turtle Bay) would be worse eatin'.
Posted by: mpfs, Joo Tea Party Terrorist at August 03, 2011 10:48 AM (iYbLN)
"ill gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today"
T-Shirt/speech bubble while speaking with China's Prime Minister?
Posted by: Shiggz at August 03, 2011 10:49 AM (v8Pb8)
@124: "Yeah, everyone would have gotten that reference immediately"
So people aren't well-informed....guess we should just dumb everything down to their level. Fuck it, it works for the communists.
Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at August 03, 2011 10:52 AM (xy9wk)
He wasn't even a National Merit Semi-Finalist so, probably nothing to crow about.
Posted by: toby928™ at August 03, 2011 10:52 AM (GTbGH)
No matter what the reason is for the left to take this tactic, comparing other Americans who don't agree with them to terrorists, etc., what it says to me is that they see that they are losing the narrative and are getting even more desperate.
Posted by: TEA-resa the TEArrorist at August 03, 2011 10:55 AM (mo1uZ)
From "Abolition of Man" - CS Lewis
Posted by: GW McLintock at August 03, 2011 10:57 AM (paVWK)
If I'm going to be called a terrorist.....
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at August 03, 2011 02:17 PM (/kd4o)
Bookmarked that 'un.
Posted by: RushBabe at August 03, 2011 10:58 AM (Ew27I)
Indeed it would be strange if they were: a persevering devotion to truth, a nice sense of intellectual honour, cannot be long maintained without the aid of a sentiment which Gaius and Titius could debunk as easily as any other. It is not excess of thought but defect of fertile and generous emotion that marks them out. Their heads are no bigger than the ordinary: it is the atrophy of the chest beneath that makes them seem so.
"Abolition of Man" - CS Lewis
Posted by: GW McLintock at August 03, 2011 10:59 AM (paVWK)
Nah, you're right.
Next time I'll strive for perfect, unassailable accuracy in my comments instead of just simply going for a quick little joke.
'Cause that's what made AoS what it is today.
In fact, lemme try again, okay?
What do you get when you cross Barack Obama and Nancy Pelosi?
I don't know, but it's parents are Barack Obama and Nancy Pelosi.
BWAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
Now that's comedy right here. amirite?
Posted by: Gene Hackman at August 03, 2011 11:00 AM (3Okgs)
OUT-FREEKIN-STANDING! Bookmarked, too!
Posted by: TEA-resa the TEArrorist at August 03, 2011 11:00 AM (mo1uZ)
The President, like Mr Big, refused to throw off the moral shackles and cohabitate with our Carrie, even though such a small gesture was well within his means and would have infused wads of liquidity into the Manhattan night life economy
Posted by: Maureen Dowd's Inevitable Sex & the City draft at August 03, 2011 11:01 AM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: Shiggz at August 03, 2011 11:02 AM (v8Pb8)
Posted by: Frrest Gump at August 03, 2011 11:04 AM (oCMdU)
Posted by: AoSHQ's *third* worst commenter, DarkLord© at August 03, 2011 11:06 AM (GBXon)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 03, 2011 11:08 AM (bxiXv)
Of course the [union] leaders understand the working class - that's why they do everything they can to get out of it.
-- paraphrasing Uncle Duke, speaking to his Chinese interpreter, Honey, back in the short, short span of time when Trudeau would skewer both sides of the aisle
Posted by: No Whining at August 03, 2011 11:09 AM (0AClR)
Posted by: Last Man on Earth at August 03, 2011 11:09 AM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Insomniac at August 03, 2011 11:11 AM (v+QvA)
Posted by: Idiot in charge of naming bad bands at August 03, 2011 11:19 AM (YmPwQ)
Posted by: Insomniac
And conveniently ignored was Pelosi and Hoyer both calling Tea Partiers nazis. Hoyer was smart neough to walk it part way back during the elections.
Posted by: Blue Hen at August 03, 2011 11:24 AM (6rX0K)
Look, I'm agreeing with you here. I was totally and unbelievably wrong and I have admitted as much. Honestly, I am truly humbled by your inestimable intelligence, as well as your commitment to correcting every wrong that is being committed on the internet.
From here on out, the laughter will take a backseat to total and complete accuracy in each and every comment I make. I promise.
For example, why did the chicken cross the road? I do not know, for truly, who can know what is in the mind of a chicken?
BWAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!!!!
I slay me am honored to present you with an accurate statement.
Posted by: Gene Hackman at August 03, 2011 11:26 AM (3Okgs)
Posted by: Inigo Montoya at August 03, 2011 11:35 AM (v+QvA)
And conveniently ignored was Pelosi and Hoyer both calling Tea Partiers nazis. Hoyer was smart neough to walk it part way back during the elections.
Posted by: Blue Hen at August 03, 2011 03:24 PM (6rX0K)
But of course!
Posted by: Insomniac at August 03, 2011 11:53 AM (v+QvA)
@ 156...I would love to see Obama as Joker in the nurse outfit...
with the "Why so serious?" quote
Posted by: TheThinMan at August 03, 2011 12:47 PM (X6O1T)
Oh, come on. I thought of "intransigence" on my own.
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The Left had a faux fit after Louis Gohmert said Obama would rather negotiate with terrorists than negotiate with Republicans.
They, of course, accused Gohmert of calling Obama a terrorist.
Posted by: soothie at August 03, 2011 09:58 AM (sqkOB)