January 17, 2011
— Geoff Paul Krugman certainly made an idiot of himself last week, when he should have either focused on his supposed area of expertise (SAoE), or on grieving for the victims in Tucson. Or both. Instead........well, you know.
So it's somewhat refreshing to find him a little closer to his SAoE this morning, where we observe him writing a carefully reasoned, well supported, critique of the GOP's claims about health care costs. Hahahaha!! Like that'll happen. No, here's what he really wrote:
My wife and I were thinking of going out for an inexpensive dinner tonight. But John Boehner, the speaker of the House, says that no matter how cheap the meal may seem, it will cost thousands of dollars once you take our monthly mortgage payments into account.Now, I read that with an immense sense of confusion, but also a sense of relief. Because I finally see what the problem is: we haven't presented our case to Dr. Krugman using embarrassingly trite analogies - analogies so feeble and so misleading that they represent an insult to taxpayer and patient alike. Yes, it's now clear that Dr. Krugman will never understand budgets and simple math with resorting to analogies so insipid and pedestrian as to be below the ken of almost all pulse-bearing mammals.Wait a minute, you may say. How can our mortgage payments be a cost of going out to eat, when weÂ’ll have to make the same payments even if we stay home? But Mr. Boehner is adamant: our mortgage is part of the cost of our meal, and to say otherwise is just a budget gimmick.
So. Our bad. Ima fix it, but first let's get back to Dr. Krugman:
Health reform, says the budget office, will increase Social Security revenues and reduce Medicare costs. But the G.O.P. analysis says that these sums don’t count, because some people have said that these savings would also extend the life of these programs’ trust funds, so counting these savings as deficit reduction would be “double-counting,” because — well, actually it doesn’t make any sense, but it sounds impressive.Apparently the concept of "double-counting," which both the CBO and the NYT have admitted is occurring, is beyond Dr. Krugman's intellectual grasp. As part of the AoSHQ outreach program let me recast the GOP argument in terms comprehensible even to an NYT columnist, by continuing his dinner scene:
"See that older fellow over there? We were supposed to buy him all his dinners, but now we're way behind on paying for them. Let's just pay half his meals after this!""Good idea, we can just barely afford that!" applauded his wife.
"And then we can take the money we saved and buy this other nice couple some food!" continued the economist.
"But we don't have that money," his wife objected, "We never did. We're just not going deeper in debt by not spending it."
"Nonsense you GOP tool!!" roared Dr K., "We save the money on the geezer and now we can feed these other people, and that's all there is to it!"
"But that just transfers our debt from one column to the other," she pled, "we haven't saved anything! Now you've got me worried - how exactly are we paying for all these meals?"
"Well first," said the econ-gnome, "I'm going to bump up taxes on the people who make pots and pans."
"Won't they just increase the prices of pots and pans, which the restaurant will eventually pass on to us?"
"Hush, little one," murmured her spouse, "The next customers will pay the higher prices, not us!! Besides, scoring rules say you can't anticipate that sort of thing! Strike it from your mind!!
Let's continue: for my second trick, I'll tell the cooks that I'm not going to pay these prices for this food."
"But they'll stop serving us!" moaned his wife, "You've tried this before and you know it never works - you know you're going to have to back down and pay them at their going rates!!"
"Simmer down, " he instructed, "You're not allowed to think that far ahead. Remember the scoring rules!! And I still haven't revealed my last moneysaver - I'm going to make the rich people pay more and make the people who order expensive meals pay more!"
"I can see how the rich could be forced to pay more," she mused, " but won't the people ordering expensive meals just order cheaper meals?"
"Scoring Rules!!"
"Ah."
Posted by: Geoff at
07:55 AM
| Comments (282)
Post contains 756 words, total size 5 kb.
I use extraordinary persuasive charisma to interest blase, apathetic, oblivious and at times hostile voters to listen to the voice of justice and consanguinity. My experiences encountering public figures and many affluent travelers in person has led me to believe that we all are to blame for George W. Bush.
As Plato stated, "The penalty that good men pay for not being interested in politics is to be governed by men worse than themselves."
Posted by: James Eric Fuller at January 17, 2011 08:07 AM (tvs2p)
Posted by: Monty at January 17, 2011 08:10 AM (4Pleu)
Posted by: Fritz at January 17, 2011 08:11 AM (GwPRU)
I love this....he has no reason it doesn't make sense to him, so he stops at the word 'because' and just snarks it off.
Posted by: Tami at January 17, 2011 08:12 AM (VuLos)
Posted by: Quilly Mammoth at January 17, 2011 08:12 AM (PbJQo)
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at January 17, 2011 08:13 AM (xQAv5)
Posted by: tangonine at January 17, 2011 08:14 AM (x3YFz)
You wingnuts think you can save money by spending less? What is wrong with you?
Posted by: Joe Biden at January 17, 2011 08:15 AM (7BU4a)
Posted by: Monty at January 17, 2011 08:16 AM (4Pleu)
Posted by: momma at January 17, 2011 12:14 PM (penCf)
Ah yes, one of those "moderate" Democrats. Who, oh by the way, always follow the party line when it matters.
Posted by: 18-1 at January 17, 2011 08:16 AM (7BU4a)
Anyway, Krugman gives me hope that, really, any idiot can win a Nobel Prize.
Posted by: Waterhouse at January 17, 2011 08:18 AM (Gx9Qb)
Posted by: WishRich at January 17, 2011 08:20 AM (hdpay)
Posted by: Rickshaw Jack at January 17, 2011 08:20 AM (f/zOk)
Posted by: curious at January 17, 2011 08:21 AM (p302b)
Anyway, Krugman gives me hope that, really, any idiot can win a Nobel Prize.
Me too, me too! Unless Jim DeMint wrecks it for me...
Posted by: Alvin Greene at January 17, 2011 08:21 AM (J74Py)
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at January 17, 2011 08:22 AM (xQAv5)
Posted by: a uncivil spirit of divisiveness and intolerance at January 17, 2011 08:23 AM (S5YRY)
Posted by: curious at January 17, 2011 12:21 PM (p302b)
He said they are just waiting for Apple to OK their App and then you can listen to their show right on your IPad.
Posted by: momma at January 17, 2011 08:24 AM (penCf)
At what point do you lose all credibility?
For a RAT with media whore cover, there is no such point.
Posted by: USS Diversity at January 17, 2011 08:24 AM (DLxD/)
18 O/T: s I went to listen to Beck and he's not on in NY or Philly anymore?
Correct. In Philly, WPHT (1210-AM) dumped him and Hannity today. In their place, the mutli-talented Dom Giordano and Michael Smerconish. Yeah, seriously. They thought it would be a good move to dump the #2 and 3 hosts in the country for a guy who couldn't get ratings in the "demanding" late night shift and a moderate squish who is so far up Obama's ass he can see his stomach lining.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at January 17, 2011 08:25 AM (zgZzy)
Posted by: curious at January 17, 2011 12:21 PM (p302b)
I thought you knew this because you made a comment a couple of days ago about Beck being taken off some radio stations. WOR 710 replaced him with Mike Gallagher.
Posted by: Tami at January 17, 2011 08:26 AM (VuLos)
SAoE is defined in first sentence of the post, guys.
Posted by: geoff at January 17, 2011 12:24 PM (1DvsG)
Yeah, reading comprehension isn't our (supposed) area of expertise 
I kid. I kid.
Posted by: momma at January 17, 2011 08:26 AM (penCf)
Indeed it is, apologies.
Reading, it's what's for dinner.
Posted by: Tom at January 17, 2011 08:27 AM (MWXXs)
Posted by: Paul Krugman at January 17, 2011 08:27 AM (zgZzy)
O/T: s I went to listen to Beck and he's not on in NY or Philly anymore?
Yeah both Hannity and Beck got pulled from their Philly affiliates.
Posted by: laceyunderalls at January 17, 2011 08:28 AM (Ktk1n)
thanks. I'm surprised that he was dropped in NY and Philly, he was on in these two cities a long time.
Guess that explains "the mercury radio network"
Posted by: curious at January 17, 2011 08:29 AM (p302b)
Posted by: Pat Fuckin' Caddell at January 17, 2011 08:30 AM (6D7Az)
Tami,
You asked in a different thread where you could find Glenn Beck in CT. I think the only station with any wattage that has him is WELI 960 out of New Haven.
Posted by: The Outlaw in the Heavenly Hall© at January 17, 2011 08:30 AM (E0EDC)
Posted by: Unclefacts, Confuse A Cat, Ltd. at January 17, 2011 08:31 AM (eCAn3)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at January 17, 2011 08:31 AM (zgZzy)
My SAoE is booty. Big ones, small ones, flat ones, wide ones, bubbley ones ets, etc. you get the idea. I like big butts and I cannot lie.
Posted by: B. H. O. at January 17, 2011 08:31 AM (pr+up)
Posted by: Brett Fav-re-re at January 17, 2011 08:32 AM (zgZzy)
Yeah both Hannity and Beck got pulled from their Philly affiliates.
What did they replace them with?
There's only one other guy getting ratings hisgher than those two.
Posted by: garrett at January 17, 2011 08:32 AM (6D7Az)
What a fuck'n idiot K-put-Man is.
Hey Paul... try not make'n your real House payment and make ya fiction payment... then let me know when da sheriff seizes it for the Bank!
roflmao
Posted by: donabernathy at January 17, 2011 08:32 AM (V7zNr)
Posted by: FlaviusJulius at January 17, 2011 08:32 AM (SJ6/3)
Posted by: Tom at January 17, 2011 08:32 AM (MWXXs)
Posted by: curious at January 17, 2011 08:32 AM (p302b)
You asked in a different thread where you could find Glenn Beck in CT. I think the only station with any wattage that has him is WELI 960 out of New Haven.
Posted by: The Outlaw in the Heavenly Hall© at January 17, 2011 12:30 PM (E0EDC)
Thanks! I'll check that out tomorrow. Although, I'm in southern CT and can't really get NH stations clearly but I'll give it a try.
Posted by: Tami at January 17, 2011 08:33 AM (VuLos)
Pat Caddell draws pictures of Paul Krugman, then proceeds to skullfuck it with the entire box of crayons.
You're thinking of Charles Schultz.
My rapes are more performance art. Mr. Krugman knows of which I speak.
Posted by: Pat Fuckin' Caddell at January 17, 2011 08:34 AM (6D7Az)
Posted by: USS Diversity at January 17, 2011 08:34 AM (DLxD/)
What kind of stuff was he saying?
Posted by: momma at January 17, 2011 08:34 AM (penCf)
As long as we are dealing in fantasy....can we ask Gandalf and the rest of wizards what they think?
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 17, 2011 08:35 AM (GZITd)
Posted by: FlaviusJulius at January 17, 2011 08:35 AM (SJ6/3)
Posted by: Speller at January 17, 2011 08:36 AM (J74Py)
Posted by: curious at January 17, 2011 08:36 AM (p302b)
Posted by: FlaviusJulius at January 17, 2011 12:35 PM (SJ6/3)
You can go to glennbeck.com and listen too. Upper right hand corner...free tab.
Posted by: Tami at January 17, 2011 08:36 AM (VuLos)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at January 17, 2011 08:37 AM (2nGKd)
Posted by: garrett at January 17, 2011 08:37 AM (6D7Az)
To fair, he did warn us about the dangers of out-of-control deficit spending.
When George W. Bush was President. Now, not so much.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 17, 2011 08:37 AM (GZITd)
http://tinyurl.com/ygpwm9v
Posted by: 18-1 at January 17, 2011 08:37 AM (7BU4a)
Posted by: FlaviusJulius at January 17, 2011 08:38 AM (SJ6/3)
I listen to Beck on Sirius Patriot 144. 9am-12pm followed by Andrew Wilkow, who is excellent and most definately a fellow traveler.
Posted by: dananjcon at January 17, 2011 08:39 AM (pr+up)
Posted by: Speller at January 17, 2011 12:36 PM (J74Py)
Also why was he working for Enron shortly before they collapsed?
Posted by: 18-1 at January 17, 2011 08:40 AM (7BU4a)
I'm going to pretend you edited the post to make me look foolish.
Posted by: Waterhouse at January 17, 2011 08:40 AM (Gx9Qb)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at January 17, 2011 08:41 AM (2nGKd)
Why? Yes I suspect I know why, but what are the radio stations saying about this stroke of brilliance?
Posted by: Derak at January 17, 2011 08:42 AM (CjpKH)
Those are the parts that led to insurance companies dropping coverage for children altogether. Nyuk, nyuk!
Posted by: HeatherRadish at January 17, 2011 08:44 AM (4ucxv)
Posted by: Derak at January 17, 2011 08:45 AM (CjpKH)
We should draw out a diagram in crayon for Kruddman next time. He might be able to then grasp the concept you can't continue to spend money you don't have in perpetuity.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at January 17, 2011 08:45 AM (9hSKh)
"I listen to Beck on Sirius Patriot 144. 9am-12pm followed by Andrew Wilkow..."
I miss Andrew Wilkow. I cancelled my Sirius subscription after my work blocked all pop-up radio players. They've allowed them again, so I think I need to renew. I miss Stern too.
Posted by: Joanie (Oven Gloves) at January 17, 2011 08:45 AM (HaYO4)
Posted by: curious at January 17, 2011 08:45 AM (p302b)
I gots ta gits me one O dem Nooooobells
roflmao
Posted by: donabernathy at January 17, 2011 08:45 AM (V7zNr)
26 year old children hit hardest.
Posted by: Speller at January 17, 2011 08:46 AM (J74Py)
"Anyway, Krugman gives me hope that, really, any idiot can win a Nobel Prize."
What did you think when bammy got one? Shoosh.
Posted by: Tigtog at January 17, 2011 08:47 AM (Q5+Og)
Indeed. I thought that the AoSHQ stylebook required his full title: Former Enron Financial Advisor Paul Krugman.
Posted by: a uncivil spirit of divisiveness and intolerance at January 17, 2011 08:47 AM (S5YRY)
Posted by: Oldsailor at January 17, 2011 08:47 AM (AovJ3)
Yeah both Hannity and Beck got pulled from their Philly affiliates
If you like your right wing shill and paranoid concpirasist....
Posted by: B.H.O. at January 17, 2011 08:47 AM (pr+up)
when there is competition for barrista jobs cause they pay more than entry level jobs for the newly college degreed then a lot of twenties and thirties are living at home with mom and dad. This year those who got jobs are being paid terribly low salaries but they say "well at least I got a job". Heck Indian and Chinese engineer are going back home cause the pay is better.
Posted by: curious at January 17, 2011 08:48 AM (p302b)
Posted by: JackStraw at January 17, 2011 08:49 AM (TMB3S)
Call me a racist, but I'm pretty sure the violence in Philly is not caused by middle-aged white people who listen to the radio.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at January 17, 2011 08:51 AM (4ucxv)
True, but the Peace Prize has been worthless forever, and a complete joke since that genocidal sodomite savage Arafat won it.
Posted by: Waterhouse at January 17, 2011 08:51 AM (Gx9Qb)
*cough*drunk Eagles fans*cough*
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 17, 2011 08:53 AM (GZITd)
Posted by: Insomniac at January 17, 2011 08:53 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: HeatherRadish at January 17, 2011 12:51 PM (4ucxv)
RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACIST
Posted by: Unclefacts, Confuse A Cat, Ltd. at January 17, 2011 08:54 AM (eCAn3)
I miss Andrew Wilkow. I cancelled my Sirius subscription after my work blocked all pop-up radio players. They've allowed them again, so I think I need to renew. I miss Stern too.
Posted by: Joanie (Oven Gloves) at January 17, 2011 12:45 PM (HaYO4)
Funny, I got Sirius because of Stern, then he started with the Bush bashing. I changed the channel, found all the great political talk on Patriot and haven't listened to Stern in 5+ years now.
Posted by: dananjcon at January 17, 2011 08:55 AM (pr+up)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at January 17, 2011 08:55 AM (2nGKd)
Brilliant, Geoff! Not only have you illustrated the nincompoopery of acadmics like Krugman but also put the lie to the idea that thr CBO is non-partisan.
Even if the people working at the CBO have no particular partisan leaning (which is doubtful, bordering on fantastic), the rules by which they score legislation and produce other documentation are tantamount to those written by the Marquis of Queensbury. Relying on CBO numbers is worse than useless.
Posted by: Truman North at January 17, 2011 08:55 AM (8ay4x)
"I can see how the rich could be forced to pay more," she mused, " but won't the people ordering expensive meals just order cheaper meals?"
This. For example, when they enacted a soda, bottled water, and candy tax here hoping to grab the big bucks, not only did voters repeal the tax, but in the few months they were collecting it, the projected revenue wasn't as high as expected--because people changed their behavior to account for the tax.
Why does this seem like it should make so much sense and yet liberals never get it?
Posted by: ParanoidNewYearInSeattle at January 17, 2011 08:56 AM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: Krugman looking at bill at January 17, 2011 08:56 AM (6D7Az)
"True, but the Peace Prize has been worthless forever, and a complete joke since that genocidal sodomite savage Arafat won it."
I gave up caring who gets Peace Prizes since the Nobel Committee overlooked Reagan, Thatcher and Pope John Paul for ending the Cold War without firing a shot. I guess Arafat represented something more important and transcendant to the larger world?
Posted by: Tigtog at January 17, 2011 08:57 AM (Q5+Og)
Posted by: a uncivil spirit of divisiveness and intolerance at January 17, 2011 12:47 PM (S5YRY)
--That's Taranto in his column.
Posted by: logprof at January 17, 2011 08:57 AM (BP6Z1)
"Funny, I got Sirius because of Stern, then he started with the Bush bashing...."
Yeah, that really annoyed me, too. But then Eric the Midget would call in and make it all better.
Posted by: Joanie (Oven Gloves) at January 17, 2011 09:00 AM (HaYO4)
Posted by: USS Diversity at January 17, 2011 09:00 AM (DLxD/)
"I read somewhere he was once a decent economist who wrote a good textbook."
That was Samuelson (the father not the son). BTW, it was an okay textbook for Econ 101/102. It lacked a great deal since it never covered anything but Keynesian thought. That, and it changed the chapter questions every two years to force new undergrads to buy new books. Don't you just love the compassion of the tenured?
Posted by: Tigtog at January 17, 2011 09:01 AM (Q5+Og)
Posted by: toby928™ at January 17, 2011 09:02 AM (S5YRY)
hey this may be too soon, but is Giffords going to remain in the House? Or does she lose her seat because she is incapacitated? Will the dems just have one less vote?
I haven't seen any articles on it
Posted by: Ben at January 17, 2011 09:02 AM (wuv1c)
How can they charge me more than I can pay at all for dinner?
I was hungry. That's a pre-existing condition.
You can't refuse to feed me.
Posted by: Mr. Krugman at January 17, 2011 09:02 AM (6D7Az)
"hey this may be too soon, but is Giffords going to remain in the House? Or does she lose her seat because she is incapacitated? Will the dems just have one less vote?"
Now that she has had half her brains blown out, I make her for the Senate.
Posted by: Tigtog at January 17, 2011 09:04 AM (Q5+Og)
Posted by: blindside at January 17, 2011 09:06 AM (x7g7t)
Posted by: Andy at January 17, 2011 09:07 AM (veZ9n)
--My wife and I were thinking of going out for an inexpensive dinner tonight. But John Boehner, the speaker of the House, says that no matter how cheap the meal may seem, it will cost thousands of dollars once you take our monthly mortgage payments into account.
Don't worry Paul, Obama the Great iks going to reduce your mortgage payments by 3000%. The guy's a straight-up genius ... just like we are. happy days!
Posted by: Charles Krauthammer's 3rd, And Last, Brain Cell at January 17, 2011 09:08 AM (AK0dh)
At what point do you lose all credibility?
In Krugman's case, around ten years ago.
I've looked and looked in his writings, and I still haven't found a scintilla of factual truth yet. He is a classic example of what Mom called a "pseudo-inellectual." All he does is spout bullshit and then says it's too complex for our little minds to comprehend.
I've forgotten more about economics than that clown will ever know.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 17, 2011 09:08 AM (b6qrg)
Posted by: FlaviusJulius at January 17, 2011 09:09 AM (SJ6/3)
Posted by: laceyunderalls at January 17, 2011 01:06 PM (Ktk1n)
If you like your shitty public schools...
Posted by: B.H.O at January 17, 2011 09:09 AM (pr+up)
Posted by: FlaviusJulius at January 17, 2011 09:10 AM (SJ6/3)
#103 - really? Are you so stupid that you think that is appropriate?
Wait and see. 2012 is just around the corner.
Posted by: Tigtog at January 17, 2011 09:10 AM (Q5+Og)
Posted by: Soona at January 17, 2011 09:11 AM (qVB55)
Now that she has had half her brains blown out, I make her for the Senate.
I laughed.
(too soon?)
Posted by: garrett at January 17, 2011 09:12 AM (6D7Az)
The tidal waves from the spittle-flecked babbling of Kruggie Howitzer, Ph.D., have rendered large portions of my screen unreadable.
Posted by: ya2daup at January 17, 2011 09:15 AM (UzjcV)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 17, 2011 09:17 AM (b6qrg)
Rush was just playing the clip of David Gergory and Sen Coburn.
As usual, the Republican hems and haws and gets his ass beat by the DNC media.
No balls. No brains. No leadership.
Posted by: Soothsayer3P0 at January 17, 2011 09:18 AM (cgEHM)
As usual, the Republican hems and haws and gets his ass beat by the DNC media.
No balls. No brains. No leadership.
Posted by: Soothsayer3P0 at January 17, 2011 01:18 PM (cgEHM)
Coburn started out rejecting Gregory's premise (about politcal rhetoric) but in the end accepted when Gregory just kept badgering him. Candy ass.
Posted by: Tami at January 17, 2011 09:20 AM (VuLos)
Rush makes it seem so easy.
Shit, WE make it seem so easy. If you can't win a debate with the hyenas at NBC, you deserve to be in the minority.
Posted by: Soothsayer3P0 at January 17, 2011 09:22 AM (cgEHM)
And way to defend political debate.
defend?
Coburn let him trim it, matte it, and put it under glass before he framed that argument.
What a maroon!?
Posted by: garrett at January 17, 2011 09:22 AM (6D7Az)
Now that she has had half her brains blown out, I make her for the Senate.
I laughed.
(too soon?)
Posted by: garrett at January 17, 2011 01:12 PM (6D7Az)
I'm hoping she has a speedy and full recovery and is able to return to congress no matter what her political affiliation is.
Posted by: Soona at January 17, 2011 09:22 AM (qVB55)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at January 17, 2011 09:22 AM (2nGKd)
Imma let you finish, but I gotta translate a little Kruggie into English for ya:
When you can't afford to pay your bills and your mortgage, and you've run your credit cards all up to their limits, you might as well go out for a night on the town because, you know, what else ya gonna do?
Krugman won the nobel the same way charm school kids graduate. TELLING PEOPLE EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANT TO HEAR. The Nobel in economics is worth no more than the "peace" prize, which simply goes to whatever token of leftist ideology gets the most attention that year.
Krugman is literally telling us "you have to spend money to save money," which is a gross distortion of the aphorism "you have to spend money to make money." Except he's not even trying to make money (except for himself).
Fucking asshole. I consider him and his ilk saboteurs, They might as well be burning down neighborhoods or tearing up train tracks.
Posted by: Merovign, Bond Villain at January 17, 2011 09:22 AM (bxiXv)
Posted by: fortune cookie at January 17, 2011 01:18 PM
Jared Loughner worked in a fortune-cookie bakery?
Who'd'a thunk it?
Posted by: MrScribbler© at January 17, 2011 09:23 AM (Ulu3i)
Gregory would never ask that of Schumer because Gregory just said the 'violent metaphors exists primarily on the Right.'
Posted by: Soothsayer3P0 at January 17, 2011 09:24 AM (cgEHM)
on the coburn clip, i was watching the show when it happened. Coburn was doing great until he conceded. Gregory asked the same question at least 4 times. Coburn should have simply said, "it is not for me to judge what rhetoric is acceptable. Violence is the only thing that is unacceptable. We are a free society and people can say what they want to say. I might add that it is interesting civility is now an issue after 10 years of saying our previous president stole an election and books and films fantasizing about his assassination were prevelant."
the worst part, which you can't see from Rush, is as Coburn conceded the point to gregory, schumer broke a big smile and nodded his head
Posted by: Ben at January 17, 2011 09:25 AM (wuv1c)
I'm hoping she has a speedy and full recovery and is able to return to congress no matter what her political affiliation is.
Same here. It would seem she is well on her way.
But a funny joke is a funny joke.
"Laugh at everything or nothing."- Grandpa
Posted by: garrett at January 17, 2011 09:26 AM (6D7Az)
Yes, we now live in a time in our nation's history where Violent Metaphors exists.
Violent metaphors. Let that sink in for a minute.
Posted by: Soothsayer3P0 at January 17, 2011 09:26 AM (cgEHM)
Posted by: Lightworker Obama at January 17, 2011 09:29 AM (GwPRU)
Violent metaphors. Let that sink in for a minute.
Trying to wrap my moral imagination around that.
Posted by: garrett at January 17, 2011 09:30 AM (6D7Az)
Posted by: nevergiveup at January 17, 2011 09:30 AM (/Ibu8)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at January 17, 2011 09:30 AM (2nGKd)
Posted by: Soona at January 17, 2011 09:33 AM (qVB55)
I'm hoping she has a speedy and full recovery and is able to return to congress no matter what her political affiliation is.
Agreed. I think Giffords is an honorable woman(as Dems go) and she will probably have something honorable to say about the hatefest that was spewed at Sarah Palin while she herself was lieing at Death's Door.
The Loughner Left wouldn't dare strike back, either, but if they do it'll be as though they've put a gun to their own head and pulled the trigger.
Hope and a prayer.
Posted by: Speller at January 17, 2011 09:34 AM (J74Py)
The Republicans have to stick to their guns because it's balls to the wall. When Congress reconvenes, they need to come on like gangbusters, guns blazing. For every Democrat volley, return fire, three-fold. The liberals have seized too much of the high ground and dug in, and we conservatives need to fix bayonets and reconquer it. Don't concede any more territory, but don;t settle for the occasional potshot. It's time to regroup, rearm, and retake the lost ground with extreme prejudice.
I hereby do not denounce myself.
Posted by: logprof at January 17, 2011 09:34 AM (BP6Z1)
Posted by: Monty
-----------------
It's even worse than that, Monty. Because it not only foists expenses on the states, it forces employers to foist ever-increasing portions of their health insurance costs on the employee.
The new regulations cost insurers millions.. They cannot just eat those costs, they must be passed on to consumers, which is in many cases employers. As the premiums go up, employers are trying to keep the costs down by taking higher and higher deductibles and co-pays.. which are paid directly by the employee.
So, Obama "saves" money by passing billions in costs to the states and consumers. This is progress?
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 17, 2011 09:34 AM (f9c2L)
Posted by: Zombie Walter Duranty at January 17, 2011 09:35 AM (QKKT0)
"Violent metaphors. Let that sink in for a minute.
Trying to wrap my moral imagination around that."
Try some conscious dreaming. If you need help, seek a Mexican native spiritualist. Those guys really have a handle on things.
Posted by: Tigtog at January 17, 2011 09:35 AM (Q5+Og)
Posted by: nevergiveup at January 17, 2011 09:37 AM (/Ibu8)
(of course feel free to substitute in Kenyan homosexual if that's your desire......)
Posted by: laceyunderalls at January 17, 2011 09:39 AM (Ktk1n)
Posted by: nevergiveup at January 17, 2011 01:37 PM (/Ibu
--Remember, one of those 0bots said it was like Santa Claus or Christmas a second time.
Posted by: logprof at January 17, 2011 09:40 AM (BP6Z1)
Posted by: Soothsayer3P0 at January 17, 2011 01:26 PM (cgEHM)
Well ... violet metaphors are better than blue metaphors, which always get me so down.
Posted by: Charles Krauthammer's 3rd, And Last, Brain Cell at January 17, 2011 09:42 AM (AK0dh)
The parallels between the Democrats and the Palestinans are endless.
For instance, after the Palestinians bomb a busload of Israeli children, they get outraged when Israel retaliates (mainly by stopping the next attacks) and cry to the UN that the Israeli response is un-proportional. A cease-fire is then agreed to...until the Palestinians break it and the cycle begins again.
The Democrats are now calling for civility after they spent years attacking the Republicans. Civility, of course, means shut up while the Democrat ram through their radical leftist agenda. AND, it means the Republicans must remain 'civil' while the Democrats continue to spew hate.
And the cycle repeats...
Posted by: Soothsayer3P0 at January 17, 2011 09:42 AM (cgEHM)
Anyone who believes ObamaCare saves money also believes in Free Lunch, The Easter Bunny, And that Pro-Wrassling isn't fixed. hasn't been paying their Medical Insurance out of pocket.
My coverage has doubled since Jugears McFuckstick legislated himself a legacy. Fuck Obamacare.
Posted by: garrett at January 17, 2011 09:42 AM (6D7Az)
Posted by: Soona at January 17, 2011 09:42 AM (qVB55)
(of course feel free to substitute in Kenyan homosexual if that's your desire......)
Posted by: laceyunderalls at January 17, 2011 01:39 PM (Ktk1n)
--It's worse than that. Shit like leftoids joking about the racial composition of tea party rallies, and their despicable race-mongering over serious questions like immigration enforcement, make a mockery of their invocations of the great Dr. King.
Posted by: logprof at January 17, 2011 09:42 AM (BP6Z1)
Posted by: beedubya at January 17, 2011 09:43 AM (AnTyA)
Hey, do you want to get really pissed off?
Read the CNN article I linked to in the headlines. CNN uses some civil rights person to say that today's heated political rhetoric is no only responsible for the Giffords shooting, but AS BAD AS THE VIOLENCE DURING THE 1960s.
Sorry for the caps, but my jaw dropped when i read it.
In the 60s you had people getting murdered, blacks being killed and beaten, after the death of MLK you had whole sections of cities burned down, etc.
This is a fucking clusterfuck of stupidty.
We're inciting violence, we're racists, arizona is the mecca of bigotry, the loughner shooting did have something to do with politics and rhetoric, the team party using the term Obamacare might make people think of obama as an other which makes violence against him more acceptable, the tea party people arguing with giffords at town halls is exactly like 1960s mississippi, ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Please read it and go nuts/
Posted by: Ben at January 17, 2011 09:44 AM (wuv1c)
They make the rules. They break the rules. They make the rules. They break the rules.
We follow the rules they make for us.
We go extinct.
Posted by: Soothsayer3P0 at January 17, 2011 09:45 AM (cgEHM)
I'm pretty sure this will lead to an increase of health screenings for jobs, even when physical strength and condition are irrelevent (i.e., don't hire the cube jockey with diabeetus, regardless of talent and experience, even though the disease won't affect his work peformance, because he will make the health insurance cost more). I have a job interview tomorrow that includes a caliper test along with the drug test. I'm not even sure why I'm going.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at January 17, 2011 09:45 AM (4ucxv)
Will Coburn bewearing the corsage that Upchucky gives him for their date to the SOTU?
...and will Coburn give it up for Upchucky later that night?
Posted by: beedubya at January 17, 2011 09:45 AM (AnTyA)
Paul Krugman is an insult, a joke, a laughing stock.
Hurry - somebody give his dumb-ass a lefty prize in ecconomics.
Posted by: Lemon Kitten at January 17, 2011 09:46 AM (0fzsA)
AS BAD AS THE VIOLENCE DURING THE 1960s.
Who, exactly, fomented the Race Riots of the 60's?
Rethuglicans, that's who! They killed my father.
Posted by: Robert Kennedy Jr. at January 17, 2011 09:47 AM (6D7Az)
Krugman knows better, somewhere deep down where his real economist lives -- the person he used to be before the Democrat shill took over. I've rarely agreed with him, but the spectacle he's made of himself is just sad. It happens to all too many liberal Boomers as they age, unfortunately: they lose the sharpness of youth but retain all the arrogance and smugness.
There is no fool like an old fool. Krugman and his lunch-buddy Friedman are excellent exhibits of that old truism.
Posted by: Monty at January 17, 2011 12:10 PM (4Pleu)
This is also the premise that has gotten so many homeowners in so much hot water - a house is an "investment", no matter how much over your head you plunge in order to attain it. Think of the deductions. Think of the appreciation.
Think of the foreclosure.
Better yet, just think.
Posted by: antisocialist at January 17, 2011 09:48 AM (Rwudm)
Posted by: Oldsailor at January 17, 2011 09:49 AM (AovJ3)
make a mockery of their invocations of the great Dr. King.
Well these kids know how to march - just saw it on the news. That's all well and nice. Now, can they even read the words in his speeches? Most likely, no.
See 104
Posted by: laceyunderalls at January 17, 2011 09:49 AM (Ktk1n)
The simple truth about Obamacare: We cannot afford it.
It's lofy promises of "free health care for 30 million" is a lie, a bubble built on quick sand. It's why 26 states are suing to repeal it.
Posted by: Lemon Kitten at January 17, 2011 09:49 AM (0fzsA)
Rush is as frustrated with Coburn as you and me.
And he's getting a lot of calls from people who feel likewise.
Posted by: Soothsayer3P0 at January 17, 2011 09:50 AM (cgEHM)
Note to left: To matter how hard you try to vilify Boehner you will fail.
No other congress in our nation's history spent more money than Nancy Pelosi 111th and her gang of corrupt idiots.
Posted by: Lemon Kitten at January 17, 2011 09:51 AM (0fzsA)
I, and Charles' two other brain cells, have done an in-depth psychiatric evalation of Coburn and we have determined that all of his brain cells migrated out of his head onto his chin.
We would recommend cutting that goatee off ... but those brain cells aren't returning, so better leave the facial hair and just accept Coburn's retardation from now on.
Posted by: Charles Krauthammer's 3rd, And Last, Brain Cell at January 17, 2011 09:52 AM (AK0dh)
Posted by: HeatherRadish at January 17, 2011 01:45 PM (4ucxv)
There's no way this can not lead to health screenings. It'll become a lot like applying for a life insurance policy - send a nurse to the house, draw some blood, step on the scale, and see if you're medically qualified to enter data or answer phones.
Also, look out if you're past the "optimum" age for good health. Being over 50 equals ever-increasing health care costs which equals higher premiums which equals sorry, but you're just not what we're looking for.
Posted by: antisocialist at January 17, 2011 09:52 AM (Rwudm)
Obamacare isn't free - it costs too much to implement and it will break the US. We will never recover from it - no matter how many lies are layered on top by leftist hacks like Paul Krugman.
Posted by: Lemon Kitten at January 17, 2011 09:54 AM (0fzsA)
In the whole course of human history, what actions(s) follow an increase in the per unit cost of anything, be it amber beads, flint arrowheads, beaver pelts, woven cloth, spices, energy, labor, building inspector payoffs ....
1. pass on the increased costs to your customers, and/or
2. less use of that item and greater use of less expensive alternatives
Higher labor costs in the cube farm offices will mean more empty cubicals.
Krugman needs to get out of his ivory (racist!) tower and stop assuming can openers.
Posted by: Count de Monet at January 17, 2011 09:55 AM (XBM1t)
This is also the premise that has gotten so many homeowners in so much hot water - a house is an "investment", no matter how much over your head you plunge in order to attain it. Think of the deductions. Think of the appreciation.
Think of the foreclosure.
Better yet, just think.
Posted by: antisocialist at January 17, 2011 01:48 PM (Rwudm)
Threadwinner. A house becomes an investment only after it has been completely paid off. Even then it's a drain on an individual's resources through repairs, replacements, property taxes, homeowner's insurance, etc.
Posted by: Soona at January 17, 2011 09:56 AM (qVB55)
Some days I think the Republicans are stupid.
Some days I think the Republicans are spineless.
Some days I think they're both stupid and spineless.
And lazy.
Posted by: Soothsayer3P0 at January 17, 2011 09:56 AM (cgEHM)
Posted by: Monty at January 17, 2011 09:58 AM (4Pleu)
You know what we need?
A meeting with the Republicans. We need to get them all in a room and make them listen to us. They need a talking to. They need a wake up call.
Posted by: Soothsayer3P0 at January 17, 2011 09:59 AM (cgEHM)
You know what we need?
A meeting with the Republicans. We need to get them all in a room and make them listen to us. They need a talking to. They need a wake up call.
Posted by: Soothsayer3P0 at January 17, 2011 01:59 PM (cgEHM)
If you're impersonating a troll, you need to step it up a notch.
Posted by: tangonine at January 17, 2011 10:00 AM (x3YFz)
In the whole course of human history, what actions(s) follow an increase in the per unit cost of anything, be it amber beads lamps, flint arrowheads, beaver pelts, woven cloth, spices, energy, labor, building inspector payoffs ....
fixed
Posted by: garrett at January 17, 2011 10:01 AM (6D7Az)
"Threadwinner. A house becomes an investment only after it has been completely paid off. Even then it's a drain on an individual's resources through repairs, replacements, property taxes, homeowner's insurance, etc."
A house could be an investment as long as your neighborhood is not targeted for social engineering by the Feds. If this happens, then the investment thingy is out the window. Stay away from housing near large apartment/town house developments. They are like cheese to a hungry mouse. Avoid any neighborhood where renters outnumber owners.
Posted by: Tigtog at January 17, 2011 10:01 AM (Q5+Og)
Posted by: Soona at January 17, 2011 10:01 AM (qVB55)
Posted by: ol_dirty_/b/tard at January 17, 2011 10:01 AM (IoUF1)
Posted by: Oldsailor at January 17, 2011 10:02 AM (AovJ3)
What if we got together (wiki style) and drafted an open letter to the Republicans in Congress?
A sort of Declaration of Resistance.
Resistance to the Democrat's agenda and trickery. We can outline our vision for going forward and we can list all the slights and offenses committed by the Democrats like they were King George.
Posted by: Soothsayer3P0 at January 17, 2011 10:03 AM (cgEHM)
Posted by: tangonine at January 17, 2011 10:03 AM (x3YFz)
Posted by: jewells45 at January 17, 2011 10:04 AM (l/N7H)
I agree with everything you say but this. If the economy isn't ham-stringed by public debt, excessive government interference, etc. I don't think competing for jobs would be a problem, there would be plenty to go around.
Posted by: lowandslow at January 17, 2011 10:04 AM (rplS1)
Posted by: tangonine at January 17, 2011 02:03 PM (x3YFz)
You evil fiend! Make it 72 hours.
Posted by: Count de Monet at January 17, 2011 10:05 AM (XBM1t)
The ousting of this asshole should be a priority.
Posted by: garrett at January 17, 2011 01:27 PM (6D7Az)
No. Hoist him aloft.
Posted by: AmishDude at January 17, 2011 10:05 AM (BvBKY)
Posted by: logprof at January 17, 2011 10:05 AM (BP6Z1)
Posted by: Jack Klugman at January 17, 2011 10:05 AM (zgZzy)
Posted by: AmishDude at January 17, 2011 02:05 PM (BvBKY)
Can't. His petard is inverted. Concave even!
Posted by: Count de Monet at January 17, 2011 10:07 AM (XBM1t)
Posted by: Monty at January 17, 2011 10:07 AM (4Pleu)
The side-bar on CNN still pushing the Violent Rhetoric Line...
Their guest was one of the freaking worst of the bunch, Casey Hayden, member of SNCC, and tied at the hips of the sources of much of that 60s violence. Probably a good friend of the Ayers too.
Posted by: Druid at January 17, 2011 10:08 AM (RnujI)
Resistance to the Democrat's agenda and trickery. We can outline our vision for going forward and we can list all the slights and offenses committed by the Democrats like they were King George.
Add to that the too numerous too list offenses by the Republicans and you've got something there.
Posted by: laceyunderalls at January 17, 2011 10:10 AM (Ktk1n)
The side-bar on CNN still pushing the Violent Rhetoric Line...
Their guest was one of the freaking worst of the bunch, Casey Hayden, member of SNCC, and tied at the hips of the sources of much of that 60s violence. Probably a good friend of the Ayers too.
Posted by: Druid at January 17, 2011 02:08 PM (RnujI)
They interview a Civil Rights person(I don't even really know what the qualification for that is anymore, being alive during the 1960s, I guess?).
I was on the back of the bus in Selma. Right there, baby.
Posted by: Sheriff Joe Biden at January 17, 2011 10:10 AM (BP6Z1)
Posted by: tangonine at January 17, 2011 02:03 PM (x3YFz)
I say for the rest of their wretched fucking lives.
Posted by: Soona at January 17, 2011 10:11 AM (qVB55)
Posted by: Tom at January 17, 2011 10:12 AM (MWXXs)
Posted by: Tom at January 17, 2011 02:12 PM (MWXXs)
No way any of those young whippersnappers gonna take this here job!
Posted by: Wal Mart Greeter at January 17, 2011 10:14 AM (BP6Z1)
Posted by: Tom at January 17, 2011 02:12 PM (MWXXs)
We'll just see about that.
Posted by: Death Panel Czar at January 17, 2011 10:15 AM (VuLos)
Posted by: Tom at January 17, 2011 02:12 PM (MWXXs)
I'm 62, and I'm planning on working for as long as I can. I've never thought the socialist idea of "retirement" was a good idea.
Posted by: Soona at January 17, 2011 10:15 AM (qVB55)
It's like a big ol grubby hippie love fest.
Posted by: Druid at January 17, 2011 10:15 AM (RnujI)
"The other thing to realize is that there are now more and more "old" people keeping jobs longer. So even if workers were retiring at historical rates, the sheer volume of "old" folks still working is going to muck up the works for a few decades."
Sure makes you wish that you owned a farm. A farm with concrete bunkers located with interlinking supporting fire. Now doesn't it?
Posted by: Tigtog at January 17, 2011 10:16 AM (Q5+Og)
It's like a big ol grubby hippie love fest.
Posted by: Druid at January 17, 2011 02:15 PM (RnujI)
Fonda and Turner are divorced.
Posted by: Tami at January 17, 2011 10:17 AM (VuLos)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at January 17, 2011 10:17 AM (2nGKd)
If they're not the first on the chopping block to save money on health insurance, anyway.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at January 17, 2011 10:17 AM (4ucxv)
Posted by: Oldsailor at January 17, 2011 10:18 AM (AovJ3)
So is this the beginning of Krugmire's series he said he was going to do exposing the so-called logical fallacies of the "keep what you earn" and "private property" crowd?
I'm eagerly awaiting that bit of linguistic gymnastics. Krugmire wouldn't recognize a logical fallacy if it gave him a Nobel prize.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 17, 2011 10:18 AM (A/oSU)
Some days I think the Republicans are spineless.
Some days I think they're both stupid and spineless.
And lazy.
Diluted Evil ™
Posted by: Follower of Cthulhu at January 17, 2011 10:18 AM (F/4zf)
OT: A buddy who works in a hospital sent me this e-mail today. No doubt some "diversity coordinator" type thought it was a good idea:
I can't make this up... this is the menu at the hospital cafeteria for MLK day
Martin Luther King Jr. Day
BBQ Ribs
3.45
Smothered Chicken
3.25
Mac & Cheese
Side dish 1.30
Black Eye Peas
1.20
Greens
1.20
Cornbread
0.75
Fried Okra
Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 17, 2011 10:21 AM (plsiE)
Oops, my bad.
Clearly this Casey Hayden is a wonderful person and has no known relationship with pinko hippies who used to get off on starting riots in the 60s and push for more today.
I will never speak of it again.
Posted by: Druid at January 17, 2011 10:22 AM (RnujI)
Posted by: Oldsailor at January 17, 2011 10:23 AM (AovJ3)
Is someone stopping you from discussing whatever you want on this one?
Posted by: Waterhouse at January 17, 2011 10:24 AM (Gx9Qb)
You can't eat that! Fatty-fat-fat!
...do they have takeouts?
Posted by: Michelle O at January 17, 2011 10:24 AM (4ucxv)
There won't be any generational conflicts. The private sector will just fire "the old people and their big fat salaries" and hire the newly minted degree holders at pittiful salaries.
The unions will make sure the teachers et al retire on their regular salary so they can become the billionaire next door and laugh at everyone who said teaching wasn't a good job.
Posted by: curious at January 17, 2011 10:25 AM (p302b)
"#214, They did that at my old company too. All the cooks were black and it was without a doubt the best meal of the year. Don't forget Sweet Potato pie."
Funny how the health NAZIs allow this at a hospital. Good eats - though. I always thought they served really bland food to hurry up the healing process. How is it that all Hospitals served mashed potatos that taste like paste?
Posted by: Tigtog at January 17, 2011 10:26 AM (Q5+Og)
Speaking of the debacle know as Obamacare- I am in the process of sending out W-9 forms to everyone we did business with last year. Thanks demoncrats. I understand the law to be anyone who provides goods AND services. Well, that's everyone, right?? The electric company, gas company, our insurance?? Quite an extensive list I have going here
jewell, that 1099K doesn't go into effect until 2012 if i am not mistaken.
Posted by: Ben at January 17, 2011 10:26 AM (wuv1c)
I will never speak of it again.
Posted by: Druid at January 17, 2011 02:22 PM (RnujI)
Hey, new post on this!
Posted by: Tami at January 17, 2011 10:27 AM (VuLos)
Posted by: Tigtog at January 17, 2011 02:26 PM (Q5+Og)
I blame Big Potato(e).
Posted by: Tom at January 17, 2011 10:27 AM (MWXXs)
I will never speak of it again.
Posted by: Druid at January 17, 2011 02:22 PM (RnujI)
Hey, new post on this!
i sent the link to ace, drew and gabe, hopefully one of them tears apart this epic fail.
Also, i should mention, since i linked to it in the headlines, CNN has put it up as their above the fold story.
Posted by: Ben at January 17, 2011 10:28 AM (wuv1c)
OT: A buddy who works in a hospital sent me this e-mail today. No doubt some "diversity coordinator" type thought it was a good idea:
I can't make this up... this is the menu at the hospital cafeteria for MLK day
Martin Luther King Jr. Day
BBQ Ribs
3.45
Smothered Chicken
3.25
Mac & Cheese
Side dish 1.30
Black Eye Peas
1.20
Greens
1.20
Cornbread
0.75
Fried Okra
Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 17, 2011 02:21 PM (plsiE)
Sweet creeping jesus, they left watermelon off the menu?
Posted by: tangonine at January 17, 2011 10:29 AM (x3YFz)
Posted by: curious at January 17, 2011 10:31 AM (p302b)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at January 17, 2011 10:32 AM (2nGKd)
Do they give titles to their menus? they could call that one "heart attack on a plate"
Posted by: curious at January 17, 2011 10:32 AM (p302b)
jewell, that 1099K doesn't go into effect until 2012 if i am not mistaken.
That is correct, but on the chance the stupid thing doesn't get repealed, or at least that part removed, I still have to send out the W-9 forms this year. Per our accountant.
Posted by: jewells45 at January 17, 2011 10:33 AM (l/N7H)
Posted by: Tom at January 17, 2011 10:34 AM (MWXXs)
Posted by: Oldsailor at January 17, 2011 10:35 AM (AovJ3)
"Sweet creeping jesus, they left watermelon off the menu? "
Not in season. At least not in the Northern Hemisphere. Peach cobbler, pecan pie, or banana pudding would have balanced that menu. Also, where is the sweet tea? Shoosh, what kind of holiday is this? (OBTW, why do yankees demand straws in their drinks? Are they incapable of drinking like a human or just unsanitary in their dishwashing skills?)
Posted by: Tigtog at January 17, 2011 10:35 AM (Q5+Og)
I'm 62, and I'm planning on working for as long as I can. I've never thought the socialist idea of "retirement" was a good idea.
Posted by: Soona at January 17, 2011 02:15 PM (qVB55)
Yeah, that's me, too. I'll be 50 this year, and I really can't imagine a reality in which I'm not working at something. I could retire in 6 years - I'll have the age and the time - but, even if I retired from my mechanic'n job, I'd still find something worthwhile to do.
Posted by: antisocialist at January 17, 2011 10:36 AM (Rwudm)
Posted by: Oldsailor at January 17, 2011 10:36 AM (AovJ3)
#214, They did that at my old company too. All the cooks were black and it was without a doubt the best meal of the year. Don't forget Sweet Potato pie.
I like ribs and chicken as much as anybody- but wasn't the idea to combat stereotypes instead of reinforce them? Why not include watermelon and menthol cigarrettes while they're at it?
I don't know- just seems odd. Then again when I was a kid, they taught that skin color doesn't matter, we're all the same, etc. Now it's completely the opposite, with ethno-centrism and multiculturalism.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 17, 2011 10:36 AM (plsiE)
Posted by: Oldsailor at January 17, 2011 02:35 PM (AovJ3)
I guess I should have clarified. I was sitting here salivating and then the though of the food police came to mind and then I thought to myself they would say if you eat that stuff you will surely get heard disease and then came the comment.
Posted by: curious at January 17, 2011 10:36 AM (p302b)
Posted by: DavidM at January 17, 2011 10:38 AM (R/e5b)
Posted by: HeatherRadish at January 17, 2011 01:45 PM (4ucxv)
This is how the world of THX-1138 arrives - not with a bang, but with a whimper.
Seriously, they (the generally fascist bureaucrats, health nazis, etc) are pushing for things like mandatory weight control (mandatory insurance + hiring standards + sliding costs based on arbitrary numbers), not based on real health concerns but on made-up standards.
They will be including BMI in hiring standards if they aren't stopped, as meaningless as that number is.
I can foresee that they could mandate you take drugs if you're not losing weight fast enough, and punish you if you won't take them, or even if you do take them and they don't work (you would be SHOCKED at the percentage failure rate of common drugs).
Mind you, we'd probably need a few Goodwin Lius in major courts before that could happen, but if Obama gets another term, he probably gets another SC pick.
WTF happened to my country?
Posted by: Merovign, Bond Villain at January 17, 2011 10:38 AM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Oldsailor at January 17, 2011 10:39 AM (AovJ3)
Posted by: curious at January 17, 2011 10:39 AM (p302b)
Posted by: Oldsailor at January 17, 2011 02:39 PM (AovJ3)
...and grape soda. Fanta grape soda.
Posted by: antisocialist at January 17, 2011 10:41 AM (Rwudm)
Yes.
Posted by: Oldsailor at January 17, 2011 02:36 PM (AovJ3)
--I think straws are unmanly, but I have taken to drinking cokes with a straw, since there is less staining of the teeth that way.
Posted by: logprof at January 17, 2011 10:42 AM (BP6Z1)
"#230, If that's the case then please explain to me why these Black men from the rural areas of the South live to an average age of 122. "
Meaning no disrespect, but I think you are referring to the Caucuses not the South. Most men in the South, both black and white, die in their early 70s. That is if they weren't eaten by an alligator or shot by an enraged husband. We don't eat a lot of yogurt in the South. Mayonaisse, yeah, yogurt no.
Posted by: Tigtog at January 17, 2011 10:42 AM (Q5+Og)
Posted by: Oldsailor at January 17, 2011 10:45 AM (AovJ3)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at January 17, 2011 10:47 AM (2nGKd)
I retired 3 years ago, from a career that I absolutely loved. Right now, I wonder why. We have no financial problems, 40 years of effort won our personal war on poverty. We aren't rich, just comfortable, and the income stream is stable.
Turned wrenches for 40some years, and if they'd let me, it'd be another 40. Nobody wants a 65 year old wrench, though. Perhaps we'll see if hooking up with an auto restoration firm is feasible.
Posted by: irongrampa at January 17, 2011 10:49 AM (ud5dN)
Posted by: Oldsailor at January 17, 2011 10:51 AM (AovJ3)
Posted by: irongrampa at January 17, 2011 02:49 PM (ud5dN)
There's gotta be something interesting you could do. I've done sheet metal work since I was 17 - back when it wasn't a field girls went into very often - but I have a degree in finance that I'd like to get some use out of before I die.
Posted by: antisocialist at January 17, 2011 10:53 AM (Rwudm)
Actually, soothsayer, working with some people who do restos IS something I've done on a volunteer basis recently. Full time is iffy right now , the economic situation kind of put a crimp in that, in that the discretionary income necessary to afford such took a hella hit. So I guess for now something else will be playing with the brand new 68 Plymouth we own. That's a constant source of pleasure, anyway.
Posted by: irongrampa at January 17, 2011 11:01 AM (ud5dN)
Posted by: Oldsailor at January 17, 2011 11:04 AM (AovJ3)
Posted by: curious at January 17, 2011 11:07 AM (p302b)
I have often wondered how it got to be "soul food". It is nothing more than good old Southern cooking. I grew up on fried chicken, corn bread, and black-eyed peas. Too bad you can't get any black-eyed peas around here except for that awful crap in a can. My MIL (from Texas) and I were talking about that the other day. All you can get fresh here is field peas and both of us hate field peas.
Posted by: Vic at January 17, 2011 11:11 AM (M9Ie6)
"Sweet creeping jesus, they left watermelon off the menu? "
Not in season. At least not in the Northern
Hemisphere. Peach cobbler, pecan pie, or banana pudding would have
balanced that menu. Also, where is the sweet tea? Shoosh, what kind of
holiday is this? (OBTW, why do yankees demand straws in their drinks?
Are they incapable of drinking like a human or just unsanitary in their
dishwashing skills?)
Posted by: Tigtog at January 17, 2011 02:35 PM (Q5+Og)
I'm all for straws. It's purely symbolic, but next time you're eating at Village Inn, loot around you and ask yourself it you want to put your lips on the drinking glass just bus-boy'd up off the next table.
Posted by: tangonine at January 17, 2011 11:17 AM (x3YFz)
"Too bad you can't get any black-eyed peas around here except for that awful crap in a can. My MIL (from Texas) and I were talking about that the other day. All you can get fresh here is field peas and both of us hate field peas. "
You think getting good black eyed peas and field peas is hard, try finding any Chow-Chow. Shoosh, I live in Northern Virginia and could'nt find any Chow-Chow for my New Years dinner. I can find plenty of Asian, Indian, German, and Jewish foods, but no Chow-Chow. We are at the end times folks. Pure and simple.
Posted by: Tigtog at January 17, 2011 11:24 AM (Q5+Og)
"I'm all for straws. It's purely symbolic, but next time you're eating at Village Inn, loot around you and ask yourself it you want to put your lips on the drinking glass just bus-boy'd up off the next table."
What is Village Inn? Usually if the place looks to skanky to eat I assume its too skanky to drink. General rule, exception is bars. After a few drinks in a skanky bar I will eat most anything.
Posted by: Tigtog at January 17, 2011 11:27 AM (Q5+Og)
LOL, what is chow-chow?
Posted by: Vic at January 17, 2011 11:30 AM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: East Bay Jay at January 17, 2011 11:43 AM (ocHBO)
"LOL, what is chow-chow?"
You ain't from around here are you Vic? Chow-Chow is made from chopped green tomatoes (and sometimes red tomatoes), cabbage, mustard seed or powder, onions, hot peppers, sweet peppers, and vinegar. Other optional ingredients include cucumbers, celery or celery seed, carrots, beans, asparagus, corn and cauliflower.
Unlike most condiments, Chow-Chow retains a chunky (chopped) texture and is not pureed. The taste can be sweet, tangy, hot or a combination thereof. It is typically served cold and like many foods, there are various varieties with an increasing availability of “hot” versions.
It is served as a relish to flavor up peas. It is like Chutney, but without the Indians. When I say peas I are not talking about those nasty green peas the British and yankees boil and serve. We are talking black eyed and field peas. In Texas they served it on pinto beans - go figure its Texas.
Posted by: Tigtog at January 17, 2011 11:44 AM (Q5+Og)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at January 17, 2011 02:17 PM (2nGKd)
That was so deaf Americans could understand how totally twisted, warped, and un-American that meme-orial was.
Posted by: Charles Krauthammer's 3rd, And Last, Brain Cell at January 17, 2011 11:46 AM (AK0dh)
"I grew up in GA. is that something that is a TX dish?"
Vic, what make me think you grew up in Atlanta? Every Georgian knows what Chow-Chow is. Shoosh. Chow-Chow is a Southern dish and has been for 300+ years.
Posted by: Tigtog at January 17, 2011 12:00 PM (Q5+Og)
Don't know. Grew up in a small town in middle GA. But I never heard of chow-chow. I asked my wife who is from TX and she has never heard of it either. She has an excuse though, she actually grew up in Italy. (she is an Air Force brat).
Posted by: Vic at January 17, 2011 12:15 PM (M9Ie6)
Chow-chow, sometimes spelled Chowchow or Chow Chow, is a Nova Scotian and American pickled relish made from a combination of vegetables. Mainly green tomato, cabbage, chayote, red tomatoes, onions, carrots, beans, asparagus, cauliflower and peas are used. These ingredients are pickled in a canning jar and served cold.
Chow-chow is regionally associated with the Southern United States,[1] Pennsylvania, New Mexico, the Appalachian Mountains, and soul food. The recipes vary greatly; some varieties are sweeter than others. Pennsylvania chow-chow, best known by the Wos-Wit brand, is generally much sweeter than the southern varieties.
Chow-chow found its way to the Southern United States during the expulsion of the Acadian people from Nova Scotia and their settlement in Louisiana. Chow can be eaten by itself or can be used as a condiment on fish cakes, mashed potatoes, biscuits and gravy, pinto beans, hot dogs, hamburgers and other foods.
I can see why it may not be found in middle GA.
Posted by: Vic at January 17, 2011 12:19 PM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: Tigtog at January 17, 2011 12:21 PM (Q5+Og)
Posted by: Vic at January 17, 2011 12:26 PM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: Tigtog at January 17, 2011 12:38 PM (Q5+Og)
Posted by: Tigtog at January 17, 2011 12:40 PM (Q5+Og)
Posted by: MarkD at January 17, 2011 12:45 PM (0Jy1K)
You seem really obsessed with Krugman. Does anybody between the Hudson River and Berkeley, CA take that tool seriously, anymore?
Posted by: Marty at January 17, 2011 01:07 PM (gF822)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 17, 2011 01:40 PM (tJjm/)
Posted by: skh.pcola at January 17, 2011 01:47 PM (vsFI8)
Posted by: Krugman: NOBEL at January 17, 2011 01:50 PM (fy8R6)
Posted by: Mr. Chumpo at January 17, 2011 08:46 PM (x8U/s)
www.fashionspaceonline.com is one of the great resource for brand new fashionable clothing, shoes and accessories.
Here are the main products that we deal with:
Shoes: Nike Air Jordan, Air Force 1, Nike Air Jordan AFJ Fusion, Dunk SB, Nike Air Max, Air Shox Running Shoes, Nike Air Zoom Dunkesto, Air Yeezy, Nike Work Boots, ACG, Nike Foamposite, Gucci, Prada, Puma Ferrari, Supra, Ato Matsumoto, Lacoste, James, Kobe, Converse, Creative Recreation, CR DICOCO, Ed hardy, Evisu, Mauri, Coogi, Dsquared, Ice Cream, New Balance, Greedy Genius, Clae Shoes and Sneakers.
Jeans: Evisu, Gucci, Armani, Bape BBC, Red Monkey, G-Star, Levis, Diesel, Versace, Prada, Louis Vuitton, Ed Hardy, True Religion, Coogi, Christian Audigier, Affliction, Laguna Beach, Iceberg, Crown Holder, Roca wear, Dolce & Gabbana, Artful Dodger, Blac Label, Rock & Republic Jeans Shorts and Pants.
T-shirt: BBC, Bape, G-Star, Evisu, Coogi, Armani, LV, 5ive jungle, Akademiks, Smet, A & F, Affliction, Ed Hardy, Christian Audigier, Blac Label, Polo, Lacoste, Crown Holder, Dolce & Gabbana, Versace, Ecko, Gucci, Adidas, Nike, Levis T-shirts and dress shirts.
Other Accessories: Chanel, Chloe, Coach, Dior, Gucci, Fendi, LV, Juicy, Prada, D&G, Ed Hardy, Christian Audigier Leather Handbag, Purse and Wallets.
Rolex, Breitlint, JACOB & CO. Cartier, Gucci, Ed Hardy Watches.
D&G, Okley, Fendi, Coach, Chanel, Gucci, Prada, Armani, Versace, Burberry, Ray.Ban, Ed hardy, Louis Vuitton, Christian Dior, Cartier Sun Glasses
Armani, CK, D&G, LV, Versace, Ed Hardy, Diesel, Gucci, polo, Prada, Puma, Versace, G-star Underwears.
Juicy, Bikini, Ed Hardy, A&F, Polo, Christian Audigier Swimming Wear, Bikini, Bathing suits.
Bape, Ed Hardy, New Era, Coogi, Gucci, New era with light, Louis Vuitton, Monster Energy Caps
DSQ, D&G, LV, Bape, Armani, Gucci, Chanel, Boss, Affliction, Versace, Ed Hardy, Christian Audigier Belts.
Welcome to contact us by MSN: babydress898@hotmail.com .Thanks!
Posted by: China-store at January 18, 2011 03:04 AM (4UaXg)
Posted by: an erection lasting longer than four hours at January 18, 2011 06:39 AM (ao9DD)
Posted by: oldowan at January 18, 2011 01:30 PM (qc2h9)
Posted by: hair extensions suppliers at January 18, 2011 01:40 PM (tpvde)
Hide Comments | Add Comment | Refresh | Top
64 queries taking 0.3109 seconds, 410 records returned.
Powered by Minx 1.1.6c-pink.
Posted by: Ben at January 17, 2011 08:04 AM (wuv1c)