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September 22, 2011

Confirmed: Obama Lied, American Health Care Freedom Died
— Ace

Two big things in this Verum Serum post, and I can only steal one.

The June issue of the Journal of Health Policy, Politics, and Law weighs in on whether the public option of ObamaCare is a Trojan Horse designed to destroy the private health care in favor of a Britain-style single (government) payer system.

You'll have to click over to find out where these authors come down.

But below is a brilliant video from Verum Serum on this issue.

You been had. Bamboozled. Run amok.

Posted by: Ace at 12:11 PM | Comments (281)
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1 Simply what most of us knew all along.

Posted by: kathysaysso at September 22, 2011 12:13 PM (ZtwUX)

2 Who knew. And Ace loves people like Pawlenty, Romney and Perry all of whom either endorsed or initiated their own versions of Obamacare.

Posted by: Molon Labe at September 22, 2011 12:14 PM (S7K8x)

3 Umm, We already knew this. Trojan horse for single payer. We knew. I'm glad the rest of the world is catching up.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at September 22, 2011 12:14 PM (ZDUD4)

4 I don't need to read anything. Anyone with any experience in health care knew and knows that obamacare will run every single private health insurance out of the business and in the end there would only be the gov option.

Posted by: nevergiveup at September 22, 2011 12:16 PM (i6RpT)

5 Obama is a criminal,stuttering clustefuck of a miserable failure. CSCoaMF

Posted by: steevy at September 22, 2011 12:16 PM (fyOgS)

6 We've been hoodwinked. with the emphasis on hood.

Posted by: g. soros at September 22, 2011 12:17 PM (jiVmv)

7 well, that was a sock fail.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at September 22, 2011 12:18 PM (jiVmv)

8 Barry's fantasy world continues to crumble. Most enjoyable.

Posted by: Soetoro Zero at September 22, 2011 12:18 PM (MJ2eC)

9 You'll have to click over to find out where these authors come down.

No need to click. Everyone with half a brain knew that.

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2011 12:19 PM (M9Ie6)

10 Good thing we're bankrupt.

Posted by: Skookumchuk at September 22, 2011 12:19 PM (btzPD)

11 The people that believed O that they could keep their plan also believe their going to beat the three card Monty dealer set up on the sidewalk outside the bar.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at September 22, 2011 12:19 PM (tf9Ne)

12 @2 - I'm curious. When did Perry either endorse or initiate his own version of Obamacare?

Posted by: Laughing in Texas at September 22, 2011 12:19 PM (dL9LY)

13 I can't wait for the scene where Obama trashes his room full of collectables up in Xanadu.

Posted by: W.H. Doubter at September 22, 2011 12:20 PM (v0x+X)

14 Old news. Ezra Klein done spilt the beans way back when.

Plus anyone with half the sense God gave a goat could have figured it out all on their own.

Posted by: MissTammy at September 22, 2011 12:20 PM (SsG4J)

15 When did Perry either endorse or initiate his own version of Obamacare?

I think somebody's taken the Tardisil.

Posted by: Meiczyslaw at September 22, 2011 12:20 PM (bjRNS)

16 The people that believed O that they could keep their plan also believe their going to beat the three card Monty dealer set up on the sidewalk outside the bar. Posted by: Buzzsaw at September 22, 2011 04:19 PM (tf9Ne) I resent that. Most people I meet in a bar know the score pretty well, liquored or sober.

Posted by: nevergiveup at September 22, 2011 12:20 PM (i6RpT)

17 OH FUCKING HELL! Not only does Massachusetts offer SafeLink cellphones and service for free to welfare deadbeats but now there's another program called Assurance offering the same deal. But of course the government is broke and needs to raise taxes to pay for this shit.

Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston training for the ONT mudwrestling match at September 22, 2011 12:20 PM (ijjAe)

18 Molon Labia, You seem to have Weepy Vagina Syndrome.

Posted by: ace at September 22, 2011 12:21 PM (nj1bB)

19 I don't use this term often but man, I hate these people (in the video).

They are well aware of what the public option is and can do and they want their hands on the power grab..

Posted by: Dave C at September 22, 2011 12:22 PM (Z4FSF)

20 The people that believed O that they could keep their plan also believe their going to beat the three card Monty dealer set up on the sidewalk outside the bar.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at September 22, 2011 04:19 PM (tf9Ne)

And win the lottery!

Allow me to join the chorus of "Who exactly are you talking to that got fooled by the SCoaMF, ace?" And for the umpteenth time, did progressoverpeace get banned?

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 22, 2011 12:23 PM (7dMdC)

21 Shorter Molon Labe, "CHOCKIT ICE CWEAM!"

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 22, 2011 12:23 PM (z/Mo8)

22 Saps! Saps!

2012: The Sappening

Posted by: Dr. Varno at September 22, 2011 12:24 PM (QMtmy)

23 If you like your insurance, you can keep your insurance. Just line up over there in front of the Brooklyn Bridge and talk to either the Easter Bunny or the Tooth Fairy.

Posted by: nevergiveup at September 22, 2011 12:24 PM (i6RpT)

24 Where are the Transcripts?

Posted by: garrett at September 22, 2011 12:25 PM (LiiJT)

You been had. Bamboozled. Run amok.

Talk radio has been making this point since before the election..

Posted by: Dave C at September 22, 2011 12:25 PM (Z4FSF)

26 And for the umpteenth time, did progressoverpeace get banned? He is Troy Davis.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 22, 2011 12:26 PM (z/Mo8)

27 right so fear for the worst and thats whats going on

Posted by: sonnyspats at September 22, 2011 12:26 PM (I/MzF)

28 whether the public option of ObamaCare is a Trojan Horse designed to destroy the private health care in favor of a Britain-style single (government) payer system.

Of course it was. I'm even less sanguine about the USSC overturning the mandate. They might well leave the rest of it intact, and destroy private health insurance entirely.

5 votes between us and doom.

Posted by: toby928™ at September 22, 2011 12:26 PM (GTbGH)

29 When did Perry either endorse or initiate his own version of Obamacare?

Shh. He's rolling.

Posted by: toby928™ at September 22, 2011 12:27 PM (GTbGH)

30 And for the umpteenth time, did progressoverpeace get banned? He is Troy Davis. Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 22, 2011 04:26 PM (z/Mo

That's kinda like banned for life?

Posted by: nevergiveup at September 22, 2011 12:27 PM (i6RpT)

31 29 And for the umpteenth time, did progressoverpeace get banned? He is Troy Davis. Well then, your answer is, Yes.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at September 22, 2011 12:27 PM (ZDUD4)

32 Obama is a liar?

Posted by: cherry pi, terrorist hostage taking SOB at September 22, 2011 12:28 PM (OhYCU)

33 Yeah, I'm confused, was there ever any doubt among intelligent life forms that all private insurers would be wiped out under Obammycare?

Posted by: W.H. Doubter at September 22, 2011 12:28 PM (v0x+X)

34 The SCOAMF lied?? I did not see that coming at all.

Posted by: George Pickett at September 22, 2011 12:28 PM (yRDod)

35 nevergiveup at September 22, 2011 04:27 PM OK, yours is better.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at September 22, 2011 12:28 PM (ZDUD4)

36 Yeah, I'm confused, was there ever any doubt among intelligent life forms that all private insurers would be wiped out under Obammycare? Posted by: W.H. Doubter at September 22, 2011 04:28 PM (v0x+X) Do the number 52% ring a bell?

Posted by: nevergiveup at September 22, 2011 12:28 PM (i6RpT)

37 Apologies if others have mentioned this, but Drudge includes this headline on his page, quoting Obama: 'I... I... I... I... I'm... I'm a warrior for the middle class'... Do you think Drudge has picked up on the SCOAMF meme? Emphasis on "S."

Posted by: sauropod at September 22, 2011 12:28 PM (GPm6P)

38 did progressoverpeace get banned?

I believe it was a self-separation from the body.

Posted by: toby928™ at September 22, 2011 12:29 PM (GTbGH)

39 It seems that Zero's greatest triumphs always turn into his biggest clusterfucks. Do I detect a trend? CHANGE!!!

Posted by: Penile Epiphany at September 22, 2011 12:29 PM (OlN4e)

40 "Do the number 52% ring a bell?" I said intelligent life forms. Anyway, this is all Bush's fault.

Posted by: W.H. Doubter at September 22, 2011 12:29 PM (v0x+X)

Posted by: Molon Labe at September 22, 2011 04:14 PM (S7K8x)

I'm already tired of your shit. Fuck off!

Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at September 22, 2011 12:30 PM (W8W07)

42 I believe it was a self-separation from the body.

Posted by: toby928Â™ at September 22, 2011 04:29 PM (GTbGH)

Ok thanks; that makes sense given the history.

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 22, 2011 12:31 PM (7dMdC)

43 Relax, Morons. I have an Ontario Health Card. And except for the fact that you can't get a family doctor because none of them will take new patients, it's not so bad. Or that my wife had to wait a week for a gall bladder removal and never had a doctor come through once on grand rounds. Or had her vitals checked more than once every twelve hours. Or was stuffed into a room with five other patients. But other than THAT, I think- OH! I forgot. The drugs are cheaper. Yep. They don't sell as many of the new ones here because of the price controls, but hey, it's a great value. Like streaming The Guyver on Netflix. Other than that, socialized medicine is the tits.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 22, 2011 12:31 PM (z/Mo8)

44 If you like your health, you can keep your health! Because G-D forbid if you get sick under obamacare

Posted by: nevergiveup at September 22, 2011 12:32 PM (i6RpT)

45 I...I...I....am at war with middle class.

Posted by: B. OdipO at September 22, 2011 12:32 PM (jiVmv)

46 "Like streaming The Guyver on Netflix." What's The Guyver?

Posted by: sauropod at September 22, 2011 12:32 PM (GPm6P)

47 So, maybe E doesn't = MC²

Posted by: Ima Wurdibitsch at September 22, 2011 12:33 PM (fk/lm)

48 50 w....w.....w.....we will fight back.

Posted by: Middle class at September 22, 2011 12:33 PM (ZDUD4)

49 Obama is a criminal,stuttering clustefuck of a miserable failure.
CSCoaMF Posted by: steevy Well done Steevy ~ well done.

Posted by: Cheri at September 22, 2011 12:34 PM (G+Wff)

50 40 Apologies if others have mentioned this, but Drudge includes this headline on his page, quoting Obama:

'I... I... I... I... I'm... I'm a warrior for the middle class'...

Do you think Drudge has picked up on the SCOAMF meme? Emphasis on "S."

Posted by: sauropod at September 22, 2011 04:28 PM (GPm6P)

Awesomesauce.

Posted by: Ima Wurdibitsch at September 22, 2011 12:34 PM (fk/lm)

51 All I know is I am not driving over any bridge that Ocluster has a hand in.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at September 22, 2011 12:34 PM (jiVmv)

52 At some point I'd like to read a comprehensive list of the lies that Odumdum has made while speechifying.
A companion video should be all the GOP candidate would need for a landslide.
If we choose a "racist" with big enough gonads.

_{I'd do it myself but I'm up to my ass in comment dialogue boxes and these pesky things have a way of piling up.}

Posted by: ontherocks at September 22, 2011 12:35 PM (HBqDo)

53 54 Obama is a criminal,stuttering clustefuck of a miserable failure.
CSCoaMF Posted by: steevy Well done Steevy ~ well done.

Posted by: Cheri at September 22, 2011 04:34 PM (G+Wff)

Let me add: Obama is a communist criminal stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 22, 2011 12:35 PM (UOM48)

54 32When did Perry either endorse or initiate his own version of Obamacare?

Shh. He's rolling.

Posted by: toby928Â™ at September 22, 2011 04:27 PM (GTbGH

hahahahaha...................

Posted by: sonnyspats at September 22, 2011 12:35 PM (I/MzF)

55 Sauropod. The Guyver was Mark Hamill's only other paying gig in the 20th century.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 22, 2011 12:35 PM (z/Mo8)

56
Barack Obama, CCC

(Criminal Commie Clusterf*ck)

Posted by: cherry pi, terrorist hostage taking SOB at September 22, 2011 12:37 PM (OhYCU)

57 51 "Like streaming The Guyver on Netflix."

What's The Guyver?

Posted by: sauropod at September 22, 2011 04:32 PM (GPm6P)

Its a movie from the 90's. Some sort of a "monster/creature" action movie. I only remember seeing part of it, and Mark Hamill is in it but I don't remember what capacity. A guy gets some "organic" powersuit or something to fight the bad creatures. I even think there was a sequel.

Posted by: buzzion at September 22, 2011 12:37 PM (GULKT)

58 Thanks, Empire of Jeff. Never heard of it in my life.

Posted by: sauropod at September 22, 2011 12:37 PM (GPm6P)

59
'I... I... I... I... I'm... I'm a warrior for the middle class'...

That's gonna make a hillarious campaign ad for the GOP.

Posted by: lizabtha at September 22, 2011 12:37 PM (JZBti)

60 Zero and his crab lice are so clueless they might just as well call in sick for the rest of his term. He would probably go up in the polls.

Posted by: Penile Epiphany at September 22, 2011 12:37 PM (OlN4e)

61 At what point do we accept that Obama hates us, hates America, and is doing everything in his power to destroy both?

Posted by: lauren at September 22, 2011 12:37 PM (RFHC3)

62 Thanks also to buzzion.

Posted by: sauropod at September 22, 2011 12:37 PM (GPm6P)

63 The Guyver was Mark Hamill's only other paying gig in the 20th century.

The other was voicing the Joker.

Posted by: Meiczyslaw at September 22, 2011 12:37 PM (bjRNS)

64 Joe Wilson and I knew Obama was lying. Don't know about the rest of you morons. Barack Obama is a lying, stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: Peregrine Took, Hobbit Son of a Bitch reports self to Attack Watch at September 22, 2011 12:37 PM (00hVo)

65 60 Sauropod.

The Guyver was Mark Hamill's only other paying gig in the 20th century.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 22, 2011 04:35 PM (z/Mo

Nah. That's his role as The Joker in all the DC animated universe shows and the Arkham video games.

Posted by: buzzion at September 22, 2011 12:38 PM (GULKT)

66 At what point do we accept that Obama hates us, hates America, and is doing everything in his power to destroy both?

Don't forget to ad that he is at war with us and we are sons of b*tches.

Posted by: cherry pi, terrorist hostage taking SOB at September 22, 2011 12:38 PM (OhYCU)

So do you think Bartertown will sell pizza?

Posted by: sonnyspats at September 22, 2011 12:39 PM (I/MzF)

68 55 40 Apologies if others have mentioned this, but Drudge includes this headline on his page, quoting Obama:

'I... I... I... I... I'm... I'm a warrior for the middle class'...

Do you think Drudge has picked up on the SCOAMF meme? Emphasis on "S." Posted by: sauropod at September 22, 2011 04:28 PM (GPm6P)

This was a beautiful thing to see. Thanks for pointing it out.

Posted by: Auntie Entity at September 22, 2011 12:39 PM (FU3yL)

69 Clearly you have forgotten Wing Commander, EoJ.

Posted by: lauren at September 22, 2011 12:39 PM (RFHC3)

70 It's seventy or eighty percent! It's not like it's a whole lot of money like, say 85 to 90 percent.

Yet I still don't think this will help with those rapidly reproducing intestinal parasites in the White House.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at September 22, 2011 12:39 PM (jx2j9)

71 If we are at war, then Nov 2012 is D-Day b*tches!!!!

Posted by: cherry pi, terrorist hostage taking SOB at September 22, 2011 12:39 PM (OhYCU)

72 So do you think Bartertown will sell pizza?

You gonna grow the wheat?

Posted by: Meiczyslaw at September 22, 2011 12:40 PM (bjRNS)

73 At what point do we accept that Obama hates us, hates America, and is doing everything in his power to destroy both?

Jan. 20, 2009

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at September 22, 2011 12:40 PM (jiVmv)

74 we shall fight on the beaches,
we shall fight on the landing grounds,
we shall fight in the fields and in the streets,
we shall fight in the hills;
we shall never surrender,

Posted by: cherry pi, terrorist hostage taking SOB at September 22, 2011 12:41 PM (OhYCU)

75 What I really want to know is what does Biden think? (drool)

Posted by: Penile Epiphany at September 22, 2011 12:41 PM (OlN4e)

76 72

So do you think Bartertown will sell pizza?

Going to cost you your converted Beverly Hillbilly truck that runs on pig shit.

Posted by: Auntie Entity at September 22, 2011 12:41 PM (FU3yL)

77 then we return the glorious bust

Posted by: cherry pi, terrorist hostage taking SOB at September 22, 2011 12:41 PM (OhYCU)

78 >>>And for the umpteenth time, did progressoverpeace get banned?

Not to my knowledge, no. He occasionally drops in to share his brilliantly reasoned and legally sound theories about how Marco Rubio is ineligible to be Vice-President because, according to the definition used by some 18th-century Swiss political theorist, he is not a Natural Born Citizen.

Yeah, I don't get it either.

Posted by: Jeff B. at September 22, 2011 12:41 PM (kRtDX)

Ace:

Tell us why Obamacare is unacceptable but Perrycare or Romneycare is.

Tell us how these enhance our freedom and liberty.

Crickets.

Posted by: Molon Labe at September 22, 2011 12:42 PM (S7K8x)

80 Hey, are we gonna be liveblogging this shit tonight? Last time was a lot of fun, if maybe a bit too fast-moving at times. Gonna be an important night, I think.

Posted by: Jeff B. at September 22, 2011 12:42 PM (kRtDX)

81 "13 @2 - I'm curious. When did Perry either endorse or initiate his own version of Obamacare?

Posted by: Laughing in Texas at September 22, 2011 04:19 PM (dL9LY)"

You guys haven't heard of Perrycare?

In Texas, you are mandated to feed your angus cattle at least enough corn to make its ass 2.5 Michelles, which is a technical term of art in the cattle business.

Posted by: Dustin at September 22, 2011 12:42 PM (fF625)

82 then we return the glorious bust

Somebody deported Christina Hendricks???

Posted by: Penile Epiphany at September 22, 2011 12:43 PM (OlN4e)

Posted by: Jeff B. at September 22, 2011 04:41 PM (kRtDX)

1. didn't know it was a he

2. didn't know they were Rubio truthers

3. they were all in on Bachmann so maybe they don't wanna show up as she meltsdown from tea party hero to joke

Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Proud Perrywinkler Or w/e) at September 22, 2011 12:43 PM (yAor6)

84 And we had the mighty George Soros declaring that the US is already in a double dip recession. Someone should deport that asshole. At least stop doing interviews with him.

Posted by: Auntie Entity at September 22, 2011 12:43 PM (FU3yL)

85 That's why I love this place. There's always someone with a bigger pop-culture dick. The point I was trying to make with my Netflix analogy was that yes, you have choices with your government health care, but they all tend to be limited to crappy, out-of-date choices.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 22, 2011 12:43 PM (z/Mo8)

86 we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender, Posted by: cherry pi, terrorist hostage taking SOB at September 22, 2011 04:41 PM (OhYCU) And if The Ace Of Spades Blog should last a thousand years ( christ will Ace be hunched over and wrinkled like a prune ) men will say "This was their finest hour"

Posted by: nevergiveup at September 22, 2011 12:43 PM (i6RpT)

87 Screwed by a pack of trojans. There's an irony rich diet for you.

Posted by: Blue Hen at September 22, 2011 12:44 PM (326rv)

88 85 Hey, are we gonna be liveblogging this shit tonight? Last time was a lot of fun, if maybe a bit too fast-moving at times. Gonna be an important night, I think.

Posted by: Jeff B. at September 22, 2011 04:42 PM (kRtDX)

I'm going to need to pick up more Bombay Sapphire.

Posted by: Ima Wurdibitsch at September 22, 2011 12:44 PM (fk/lm)

Funny. The only difference between HillaryCare and ObamaCare was an opportunity of the people to stop one of these proposals. Must be a very satisfying achievement that all Democrats hold dear and hearld to their fellow citizens. There is no way Dems will be punished for such a great and benevolent act.

Posted by: Sub-Tard at September 22, 2011 12:44 PM (0M3AQ)

90 Perrycare

Hahahahaha

Posted by: toby928™ at September 22, 2011 12:44 PM (GTbGH)

91 "

Tell us why Obamacare is unacceptable but Perrycare or Romneycare is.

Tell us how these enhance our freedom and liberty.

Crickets.

Posted by: Molon Labe at September 22, 2011 04:42 PM (S7K8x)"

Because Perrycare is just to choose your own health care provider and insurance, if you even want it, and if you don't, it's none of the government's business?

That's freedom and liberty, fella.

Even at his worst, Perry doesn't force anybody. He doesn't think the government should do that. You can say 'no'.

Posted by: Dustin at September 22, 2011 12:44 PM (fF625)

Yeah socialized healthcare is great. That's why Canadian politicians come to the USA for healthcare.

Posted by: Molon Labe at September 22, 2011 12:44 PM (S7K8x)

93 Sweet

Posted by: Joe Wilson at September 22, 2011 12:45 PM (WkuV6)

94 Molon Labe What specifically do you mean by PerryCare?

Posted by: tasker at September 22, 2011 12:45 PM (rJVPU)

Molon Labe what's your blood pressure?

are you really Mark Levin?

Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Proud Perrywinkler Or w/e) at September 22, 2011 12:46 PM (yAor6)

96 What specifically do you mean by PerryCare?

This going to be great!

Posted by: flounder at September 22, 2011 12:46 PM (GTbGH)

97 20 Molon Labia,

You seem to have Weepy Vagina Syndrome.

Posted by: ace at September 22, 2011 04:21 PM (nj1bB

I was thinking molting labia. Great minds and all that.

Posted by: The Ghost of Kim Novak at September 22, 2011 12:46 PM (8DdAv)

98 >>>2. didn't know they were Rubio truthers

Pretty sure that the guy is a hardcore Birther, of the "I don't care if the birth certificate is legit, I hate Obama so much that Ima invent a new category of Natural Born Citizen to DQ him ANYWAY 'cuz of his dad!" variety. His follow-through on Marco Rubio was just a way of maintaining, in his mind, his intellectual honesty: "see, neither Obama NOR Rubio can be Prez/V-P!"

And I always assumed "progressoverpeace" was a he not a she. Because it takes a man to be *that* atomically dense.

Posted by: Jeff B. at September 22, 2011 12:47 PM (kRtDX)

99 Anything else in the news? This one's a yawn.

Here's one. Hey, let's walk out when Ahmadinejad speaks. Another yawn.

How 'bout, world economic collapse? Now there is something we can get our teeth into. Dark ages, here we come.

And if that big bright flash occurs in the sky? Don't look directly at it.

Posted by: I'm in a New York state of mind at September 22, 2011 12:48 PM (4sQwu)

100

Care to explain to us how Perry's actions enhance our freedoms and liberties?

Care to explain why Perry had to apologize for us actions if they were so wonderful?

There is something entirely new in terms of corruption and dishonesty; singularly amoral and historically unethical when what one polician does is decried andthen imitated and described as just.

Our maybe we have some real Kool Aide drinkers here.

Posted by: Molon Labe at September 22, 2011 12:48 PM (S7K8x)

101 Thad McCotter endorsed Mittens? Damn, I thought he was supposed to be a cool guy...

Posted by: Joffen at September 22, 2011 12:48 PM (EPcuy)

102 Is it too late to enter the race?

Posted by: Zombie John Wayne at September 22, 2011 12:48 PM (x3YFz)

103 SCOAMF is a warrior now. Legendary fantasy warrior hero.

SCOAMF! Warrior of Merde! Together with his faithful sidekick, Princess Culo Massiccio, fight the evil rich who hold the key to jobs in their strong rooms!

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at September 22, 2011 12:48 PM (jx2j9)

104 PerryCare?

Posted by: charlie gibson at September 22, 2011 12:49 PM (GTbGH)

105 Posted by: Molon Labe at September 22, 2011 04:48 PM (S7K8x) --------- Guys, save your ammo for tonight's debate!

Posted by: Joffen at September 22, 2011 12:49 PM (EPcuy)

106 108, I thought it was your birthday.

Posted by: cherry pi, terrorist hostage taking SOB at September 22, 2011 12:49 PM (OhYCU)

107 Man, now I'm torn. Did Michelle Bachman talk to curious' mom after the last debate, or was it Molon Labe's mom?

Posted by: buzzion at September 22, 2011 12:50 PM (GULKT)

108 That's why I love this place. There's always someone with a bigger pop-culture dick.

The point I was trying to make with my Netflix analogy was that yes, you have choices with your government health care, but they all tend to be limited to crappy, out-of-date choices.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 22, 2011 04:43 PM (z/Mo

Oh, I get it. Now....who's this McGuyver dude again?

Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at September 22, 2011 12:50 PM (W8W07)

109

Our maybe we have some real Kool Aide drinkers here.

Posted by: Molon Labe at September 22, 2011 04:48 PM (S7K8x)

Perry had a version of Obamacare? Are you completely insane? That would be redundent to ask that of an Obama voter though wouldn't it?

Posted by: robtr at September 22, 2011 12:51 PM (MtwBb)

110

Our maybe we have some real Kool Aide drinkers here.

Posted by: Molon Labe at September 22, 2011 04:48 PM (S7K8x)

the irony in this post is hillarious

Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Proud Perrywinkler Or w/e) at September 22, 2011 12:51 PM (yAor6)

111

Posted by: robtr at September 22, 2011 04:51 PM (MtwBb)

Perrycare is being used to refer to the Tardasil stuff, forgetting there was an opt-out and thus no mandate

Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Proud Perrywinkler Or w/e) at September 22, 2011 12:51 PM (yAor6)

112 Of course you ignore Perry's letter to Hillary where he commends her healthcare reform efforts and reminded her to ask Uncle Sugar to send him some of those sweet benefits.

Posted by: polynikes - Texan for Romney at September 22, 2011 12:52 PM (Z6fyp)

113

Perry had a version of Obamacare? Are you completely insane? That would be redundent to ask that of an Obama voter though wouldn't it?

Posted by: robtr at September 22, 2011 04:51 PM (MtwBb)

He thinks increasing the number of vaccinations students receive in school by 1 is the same as putting the government in control of healthcare.

Posted by: buzzion at September 22, 2011 12:52 PM (GULKT)

114 Don't worry EoJ, I'm sure Solyndracare will make its way up there.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at September 22, 2011 12:52 PM (jiVmv)

115 52 So, maybe E doesn't = MC2 Posted by: Ima Wurdibitsch at September 22, 2011 04:33 PM (fk/lm) Nahh. Huge, honkin' big error bars.

Posted by: joncelli at September 22, 2011 12:52 PM (RD7QR)

116 There is something entirely new in terms of corruption and dishonesty; singularly amoral and historically unethical when what one polician does is decried andthen imitated and described as just. Â Our maybe we have some real Kool Aide drinkers English, motherfucker! DO YOU SPEAK IT?

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 22, 2011 12:52 PM (z/Mo8)

117

Yeah Perry didn't force anything on anyone, isn't thisnwhat Obama promised? What a bunch of sheep.

That's why Perry had to apoligize for his actions.

Let's hear it for the Kool Aide drinkers.

Posted by: Molon Labe at September 22, 2011 12:53 PM (S7K8x)

118

Posted by: Joffen at September 22, 2011 04:48 PM (EPcuy)

McCotter is more of a moderate then folks think

Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Proud Perrywinkler Or w/e) at September 22, 2011 12:53 PM (yAor6)

119 106

Care to explain to us how Perry's actions enhance our freedoms and liberties?

CRICKETS.

Care to explain why Perry had to apologize for us actions if they were so wonderful?

CRICKETS.

There is something entirely new in terms of corruption and dishonesty; singularly amoral and historically unethical when what one polician does is decried andthen imitated and described as just.

CRICKETS

Our maybe we have some real Kool Aide drinkers here.

CRICKETS.

Posted by: Molon Labe at September 22, 2011 04:48 PM (S7K8x)

FIFY!! YOU'RE WELCOME!!!!

Posted by: The Ghost of Kim Novak at September 22, 2011 12:53 PM (8DdAv)

120 >>>Thad McCotter endorsed Mittens? Damn, I thought he was supposed to be a cool guy...

I worry that people are reading the "writing on the wall." That's why I think this debate is so big for Perry -- he needs to turn around perceptions of him as intellectually and rhetorically unfit for the job, ASIDE from these policy differences (which I think are really rather secondary...although the pay-to-play stuff I saw in Jen Rubin's blog the other day worried me a bit). I mean, McCotter clearly has little love for Romney based on his rhetoric earlier in the campaign (though it's possible some of that was just for show, to heighten differences btw. the two), but one gets the sense that he isn't very impressed by Perry, or else he would have endorsed him, no?

Speaking of which...what's going to happen if/when Scott Walker endorses Romney, as I'm now hearing whispers out of Madison might actually happen? Will the Hero of the Labor Wars suddenly be labelled a sellout RINO traitor too? That's the problem I have with that sort of rhetoric. A lot of junior Robespierres running around in the Tea Party/TrueCon movement, waiting to drop the guillotine on everyone for the simple pleasure of exercising the satisfying power of ostracism.

Posted by: Jeff B. at September 22, 2011 12:53 PM (kRtDX)

121 Ogabe wanted single payer??? The deuce, you say.

Gee who'd a thunk that'was the plan.?? .... especially since he's on video saying exactly that and all......and that this was just the first step.

Heyzoos, Maria, Jose y el burro chingando

Posted by: beedubya at September 22, 2011 12:53 PM (AnTyA)

122 Our [sic] maybe we have some real Kool Aide [sic] drinkers here.

Yep. Drank the Tardisil.

If you think that the one is the same as the others, you've got a real problem with degree.

Let me try to explain:

A little water is good. More water is torture. Even more is drowning.

Posted by: Meiczyslaw at September 22, 2011 12:53 PM (bjRNS)

123 Who would have thought that a bunch of crooks would commit a crime?

Posted by: dfbaskwill at September 22, 2011 12:53 PM (ndlFj)

124

Perrycare is being used to refer to the Tardasil stuff, forgetting there was an opt-out and thus no mandate

Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Proud Perrywinkler Or w/e) at September 22, 2011 04:51 PM (yAor6)

Oh so you are saying he's not an Obama voter but a Pro Cancer voter?

Meh, he's still fucking nuts.

Posted by: robtr at September 22, 2011 12:54 PM (MtwBb)

125 Perry all of whom either endorsed or initiated their own versions of Obamacare. Posted by: Molon Labe

Yeah, we all love Perry's version of this here in Texas...wait, what? Oh, yeah, THAT NEVER HAPPENED.

Posted by: Hobbitopoly at September 22, 2011 12:54 PM (h1p5V)

126 Our maybe we have some real Kool Aide drinkers here.

This rube is cracking me up.

Posted by: toby928™ at September 22, 2011 12:54 PM (GTbGH)

127 >>Molon Labe at September 22, 2011 04:48 PM (S7K8x) Perry never instituted any form or healthcare in Texas. You're not even wrong, you're just making shit up.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 22, 2011 12:54 PM (TMB3S)

128 McCotter Everyone is more of a moderate then folks think

Posted by: cherry pi, terrorist hostage taking SOB at September 22, 2011 12:54 PM (OhYCU)

129 Gov. Rick Perry statement on the U.S. House of Representatives vote to repeal federal health care legislation: I applaud today's House vote to repeal Obamacare, which if left in place stands to cost Texans $27 billion over 10 years starting in 2014, and I strongly urge the Senate to join in the rejection of this overreaching and harmful legislation. I'm hopeful this represents the first step toward a renewed and honest debate on real heath care reform in America.

Posted by: tasker at September 22, 2011 12:55 PM (rJVPU)

130

#123

Suggest you return to grade school. Try harder.

Posted by: Molon Labe at September 22, 2011 12:55 PM (S7K8x)

131 "He is Troy Davis."

Was. He was Troy Davis.

Posted by: Kensington at September 22, 2011 12:55 PM (Z7toi)

132

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 22, 2011 04:52 PM (z/Mo

What? What?

Posted by: USS Diversity at September 22, 2011 12:55 PM (aD5Kx)

133 You down with OBC ... yeah you know me!!!!

Posted by: Gardisil Chimps at September 22, 2011 12:55 PM (GvYeG)

134 Suggest you return to grade school. Try harder.

Irony. It's like silvery, only rust colored.

Posted by: toby928™ at September 22, 2011 12:56 PM (GTbGH)

135 >>>Everyone is more of a moderate then folks think

Well, except for Jim DeMint and James Inhofe.

Posted by: Jeff B. at September 22, 2011 12:56 PM (kRtDX)

136 I like to mix my Cherry Kool-Aid with my Lemonade Kool-Ade. Yum.

Posted by: Laughing in Texas at September 22, 2011 12:56 PM (dL9LY)

137 Every son of Troy shall die.

Posted by: cherry pi, terrorist hostage taking SOB at September 22, 2011 12:56 PM (OhYCU)

138 Jim Demint caused the recession.

Posted by: alvin greene at September 22, 2011 12:56 PM (GTbGH)

139 Molon Labe is in the pocket of Big Cancer.

Posted by: robtr at September 22, 2011 12:57 PM (MtwBb)

140 >>>Suggest you return to grade school. Try harder.

You are our least valuable poster.

I mean, you're free to continue posting here and all, but I just wanted to make sure you understood that, now that progressoverpeace is gone, you are officially our least valuable poster. You bring nothing to the table.

Posted by: Jeff B. at September 22, 2011 12:58 PM (kRtDX)

141 There is something entirely new in terms of corruption and dishonesty; singularly amoral and historically unethical when what one polician does is decried andthen imitated and described as just.

Our maybe we have some real Kool Aide drinkers

English, motherfucker! DO YOU SPEAK IT?

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 22, 2011 04:52 PM (z/Mo

I think we have an honest-to-god troll here. No sock, just troll.

Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at September 22, 2011 12:58 PM (W8W07)

142

Posted by: Jeff B. at September 22, 2011 04:53 PM (kRtDX)

agreed there might be a "wriiting on the wall" thinking out there. perry needs a good night tonight. I'vealso noticed except for debt-ridden Pawlenty it's Govs backing Perry and DC guys backing Romney. Walker endorsing Romney would be big as Wisconsin's last GOP primary poll had Perry leading there. I'm really hoping Perry's comeback start tonight and he begins to lock in that frontrunner status.

Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Proud Perrywinkler Or w/e) at September 22, 2011 12:58 PM (yAor6)

143

126

Obvious to the casual observer.

Posted by: Molon Labe at September 22, 2011 12:58 PM (S7K8x)

144 >>Thad McCotter endorsed Mittens? Damn, I thought he was supposed to be a cool guy... McCotter is controlled by Big Mormon.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 22, 2011 12:59 PM (TMB3S)

145 Who is Molon Labe's candidate...? Can't be Perry, Obama or Romney.... Hmmmm.....

Posted by: tasker at September 22, 2011 12:59 PM (rJVPU)

146 Rush said this from the beginning. Anyone with any business sense sense could have figured this out. Pay 12,000 for employee health care, or pay 2000 fine. Hmmm, how many guzunta's is that?

Posted by: The Schwalbe : © at September 22, 2011 12:59 PM (UU0OF)

147 The SCoaMF...in his own words...without a teleprompter ...on video...saying the goal is single payer

Posted by: beedubya at September 22, 2011 12:59 PM (AnTyA)

148 Beware ML's rubber-glue gambit. It's unstoppable.

Posted by: toby928™ at September 22, 2011 01:00 PM (GTbGH)

149

Questions for tonights debate

Mr.Perry - Why did first attend a meeting with the Bilderberg Group before announcing your candidacy

Mr.Gingrich - Why did you let Bill Clinton Take credit for the balanced budget during his administration,

Mr. Romney- Do you have any balls? If so can I see them?

Mrs. Bach Mom- Are you serious bawahahhaha...........

Mr. Paul - What is your contingency plan for when your ideas throw the globe into chaos.

Mr. Cane- Have you ever thought about signing up for America's Got Talent?

Mr. Santorum - Do you realize the social conservative train has left the station?

Mr. Huntsman - WTF?

Posted by: sonnyspats at September 22, 2011 01:00 PM (I/MzF)

150 Pay 12,000 for employee health care, or pay 2000 fine. Hmmm, how many guzunta's is that?

Or, outsource to India.

Posted by: toby928™ at September 22, 2011 01:00 PM (GTbGH)

151 So, maybe E doesn't = MC²

What do you want it to equal?

Posted by: Enviro scientists loving that sweet free gov't money at September 22, 2011 01:01 PM (Hx5uv)

152

Posted by: tasker at September 22, 2011 04:59 PM (rJVPU)

I think he's a Bachmann/Palin fan

Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Proud Perrywinkler Or w/e) at September 22, 2011 01:01 PM (yAor6)

153 Irony.Â It's like silvery, only rust colored. What a dipshit.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 22, 2011 01:01 PM (z/Mo8)

154 Molon Labe, who do you support for the nomination? You criticize the frontrunners but don't seem to support anyone.

Posted by: joncelli at September 22, 2011 01:01 PM (RD7QR)

155 148 There is something entirely new in terms of corruption and dishonesty; singularly amoral and historically unethical when what one polician does is decried andthen imitated and described as just.

Oh, like Guantanamo?

Posted by: dagny at September 22, 2011 01:01 PM (sDP19)

156 I mean, you're free to continue posting here and all, but I just wanted to make sure you understood that, now that progressoverpeace is gone, you are officially our least valuable poster. You bring nothing to the table.

Damn, dude. Do you also stand in front of the mirror on Halloween saying "candyman" five times in a row just to see if he'll show up? :p

Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 22, 2011 01:01 PM (SY2Kh)

157

You criticize the frontrunners but don't seem to support anyone.

Posted by: joncelli at September 22, 2011 05:01 PM (RD7QR)

On his planet that's a desirable characteristic.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at September 22, 2011 01:02 PM (sbV1u)

158 This his news, how?

Posted by: Chuckit at September 22, 2011 01:02 PM (Hc9Yd)

159

Mr. Huntsman - WTF?

Who?

Oh, and don't forget Johnson.

Posted by: dagny at September 22, 2011 01:03 PM (sDP19)

160 142 >>>Everyone is more of a moderate then folks think

Well, except for Jim DeMint and James Inhofe.

I'm going with Sen. DeMint and Rep. Jim Jordan.

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at September 22, 2011 01:03 PM (o2lIv)

161 The question is moot.

Posted by: mayan calendar at September 22, 2011 01:03 PM (GTbGH)

162

Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 22, 2011 05:01 PM (SY2Kh)

could be fun

Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Proud Perrywinkler Or w/e) at September 22, 2011 01:03 PM (yAor6)

163 ML is either Levin or curious w/ a new IP. come on, fess up.

Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Proud Perrywinkler Or w/e) at September 22, 2011 01:04 PM (yAor6)

164 You criticize the frontrunners but don't seem to support anyone.

I don't mind him criticizing the frontrunners; I'm not a big fan of any of them, myself. But his making crap up is tiresome.

Posted by: sandy burger at September 22, 2011 01:04 PM (0U+Pz)

165 Are people seriously conflating a vaccination requirement with a government mandated healthcare system? I thought the objection to the shot was based on a "scandal by proxy" argument from the Religious Right - not some big government boot.

Posted by: Jean at September 22, 2011 01:04 PM (WkuV6)

166 You bring nothing to the table.Â What about his sippy cup, retard helmet and spork? That's something.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 22, 2011 01:04 PM (z/Mo8)

167 >>>Molon Labe, who do you support for the nomination? You criticize the frontrunners but don't seem to support anyone.

100% sure I've seen him plumping for Palin before. Not so sure about Bachmann (in fact I would guess not, given that fans of the one usually dislike the other).

>>>Damn, dude. Do you also stand in front of the mirror on Halloween saying "candyman" five times in a row just to see if he'll show up? :p

I play with fire. Occasionally I get burned beyond all recognition. It's an occupational hazard.

Posted by: Jeff B. at September 22, 2011 01:05 PM (kRtDX)

168

I think I stay in the shelter tonight.
Posted by: Da Hobo at September 22, 2011 05:04 PM (hXJOG)

Good idea.

Also, go short on hobo pelt futures.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at September 22, 2011 01:05 PM (sbV1u)

169 Who else would accuse Ace of being David Brooks if Molon Labe didn't?

Posted by: buzzion at September 22, 2011 01:06 PM (GULKT)

170 If Boehner doesnt give a speech in South Chicago, he should have his remaining ball clipped.

Posted by: cherry pi, terrorist hostage taking SOB at September 22, 2011 01:06 PM (OhYCU)

171 Has the Long Island Lolita been around lately? Or have I just been lucky enough to be out when she's about?

Posted by: Sean Bannion at September 22, 2011 01:07 PM (sbV1u)

172 O/T- And for today's Overstated Headline of the Day, I present you this gem:

Surging Gary Johnson to join Fox debate in Fla

And by "surging" they mean:

The former New Mexico governor won the right to participate, according to Fox sources, by cracking 1 percent in the latest five national polls...

Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 22, 2011 01:07 PM (SY2Kh)

173 What about his sippy cup, retard helmet and spork?

That's something.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 22, 2011 05:04 PM (z/Mo

When he/she finally falls out of the window, I'll race you downstairs for the retard helmut.

Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at September 22, 2011 01:08 PM (W8W07)

174 Guys, my heart is aflutter. I just read that Obama is setting up a petition site! If we get enough people to sign, we will get an actual, one of a kind,Official Response! Praise be to our kind and glorious leader.

Posted by: lauren at September 22, 2011 01:08 PM (RFHC3)

175 170 It appears the morons are in a particularly foul mood today. I think I stay in the shelter tonight. Posted by: Da Hobo at September 22, 2011 05:04 PM (hXJOG) MD20/20, beef jerky, and a pack of smokes. Here, hobo hobo hobo.

Posted by: joncelli at September 22, 2011 01:08 PM (RD7QR)

176 I bet you people were fans of ReaganCare as well!~~!1!!!!

Posted by: Moron Lube at September 22, 2011 01:09 PM (s1vtf)

177 It appears the morons are in a particularly foul mood today.

The live-blog could be epic.

Posted by: toby928™ at September 22, 2011 01:09 PM (GTbGH)

178 The SCoaMF also is on tape talking about destroying the coal and nuclear power industries.

...are we going to be shocked when he accomplishes that too?

Posted by: beedubya at September 22, 2011 01:10 PM (AnTyA)

179

Our maybe we have some real Kool Aide drinkers here.

Posted by: Molon Labe at September 22, 2011 04:48 PM (S7K8x)

Right on brother. Resist we much!!

Power to the People!

Posted by: Al Sharpie at September 22, 2011 01:10 PM (I/MzF)

180 174 Ha, EOJ, all I hear in my head when I read his crap is "Oooooooklahoma, Oklahoma, Oklahoma!"

Posted by: no good deed at September 22, 2011 01:10 PM (mjR67)

181 Come and take them!

Posted by: I'm in a New York state of mind at September 22, 2011 01:10 PM (4sQwu)

182 @ Soona, Ha! That's a deal.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 22, 2011 01:10 PM (z/Mo8)

183 OT: Palin has 8 days to announce. Bloggers to become overnight millionaires.

Posted by: cherry pi, terrorist hostage taking SOB at September 22, 2011 01:11 PM (OhYCU)

184 Molon Labe just pops up at the end of Palin threads and makes a lot of "No, you!" replies. Not even a decent troll.

Posted by: Anony at September 22, 2011 01:11 PM (Yigvc)

185 >>>The live-blog could be epic.

I think we should get it started early. I'm already working up some schtick.

Posted by: Jeff B. at September 22, 2011 01:12 PM (kRtDX)

186 193 OT: Palin has 8 days to announce. Bloggers to become overnight millionaires. Posted by: cherry pi, terrorist hostage taking SOB at September 22, 2011 05:11 PM (OhYCU) We need a countdown clock in the sidebar. Maybe decorate it with a picture of Sarah in running shorts.

Posted by: joncelli at September 22, 2011 01:12 PM (RD7QR)

187 we love bananas ...

Posted by: Gardisil Chimps Live at Carnegie Hall at September 22, 2011 01:12 PM (GvYeG)

188 The SCoaMF also is on tape talking about destroying the coal and nuclear power industries.

...are we going to be shocked when he accomplishes that too?

It will be near impossible to receive a shock if SCoaMF get his way since only the very rich or connected will have electricity.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at September 22, 2011 01:12 PM (tf9Ne)

189 174 You bring nothing to the table.

What about his sippy cup, retard helmet and spork?

That's something.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 22, 2011 05:04 PM (z/Mo

You forgot the gyrobowl so he can't knock his cheerios over

Posted by: Jollyroger at September 22, 2011 01:12 PM (NCw5u)

190

"Kool-Aide" is spelled KOOL-AID you buttfucking idiot.

I think that Kool-Aide is what Corpse-men give to their patients.

That's what he meant.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at September 22, 2011 01:13 PM (sbV1u)

191 Holy crap. McCotter drops bid for president and...endorses Mittens. (politico)

Posted by: Lady in Black at September 22, 2011 01:13 PM (ycuSb)

192 I drink grape Kool Aide, ...that's why my lips are purple.

Posted by: The Precedent of these 58 Benighted States at September 22, 2011 01:13 PM (J74Py)

193 Romney is pulling the endorsements. It's like McCain with better hair.

Posted by: joncelli at September 22, 2011 01:13 PM (RD7QR)

194 174, Dude, easy on the spork, you can't have a decent KFC meal without a spork.

Posted by: Middle class at September 22, 2011 01:14 PM (ZDUD4)

195 McCotter endorses Mittens link. Kinda disappointed in him.

Posted by: Lady in Black at September 22, 2011 01:14 PM (ycuSb)

196 >>>We need a countdown clock in the sidebar. Maybe decorate it with a picture of Sarah in running shorts.

Yeah, except that when this countdown clock gets to T-minus-10 seconds, it suddenly resets to middle of November!

Also, party foul in post #203.

Posted by: Jeff B. at September 22, 2011 01:15 PM (kRtDX)

197 molon labe is just another plain old daughter hater, that's all. Christ, didn't I get you fucking neo-puritans straightened out three weeks ago? Where the fuck were you, going door-to-door for Santorum ?

Posted by: Asscheeks of Saturn at September 22, 2011 01:15 PM (le5qc)

198 Why would McCotter's endorsement mean anything? Are is one or two supporters gonna go vote for Mitt?

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2011 01:15 PM (M9Ie6)

199 174, Dude, easy on the spork, you can't have a decent KFC meal ~~without a spork.~~

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 22, 2011 01:16 PM (z/Mo8)

200 you're arguing over who's the least shittiest candidate. Think about it. None of these fuckers has the balls to pull us out of this tail-spin.

Posted by: Zombie John Wayne at September 22, 2011 01:16 PM (x3YFz)

201 206 McCotter endorses Mittens link. Kinda disappointed in him.

Posted by: Lady in Black at September 22, 2011 05:14 PM (ycuSb)

Mitt! is really trying to blunt Perry's mo by dropping the endorsements early. I think Perry helped out with the debate performances so far. Still WTF is with all the tea partiers signing up with team Mitt?

Posted by: Jollyroger at September 22, 2011 01:17 PM (NCw5u)

202 Now here's a great reason to support Romney. Good grief.

"McCotter appears to be making a pragmatic decision in backing Romney. HeÂ’s been very critical of the former Massachusetts governor in the past Â— issuing a press release in July upon RomneyÂ’s visit to the state that Â“our struggling families, entrepreneurs and workers canÂ’t afford policies that make Mr. Romney and Mr. Obama less than rivals, and more like running mates.Â” But with his own re-election campaign now ahead of him, McCotterÂ’s linking up to a presidential candidate whoÂ’s popular in the state, and whoÂ’s the son of a former governor."

Posted by: Lady in Black at September 22, 2011 01:17 PM (ycuSb)

203 Chrissy peed himself over his new graphic "Build, Baby, Build"

Posted by: cherry pi, terrorist hostage taking SOB at September 22, 2011 01:18 PM (OhYCU)

204 Internal email says controversial CLASS* health office to close

*Passed in ObamaCare bill

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at September 22, 2011 01:18 PM (o2lIv)

205 206, Doesn't it seem like those already in office are trying to keep the incredible amount of goodies that go with being elected to congress? Any worth a shit candidate would be saying to Congressman and Senators, Fuck your lifetime retirement Fuck your lifetime healthcare Fuck your lifetime job (Term limits)

Posted by: Middle class at September 22, 2011 01:18 PM (ZDUD4)

206 Fail, Baby, Fail

Posted by: cherry pi, terrorist hostage taking SOB at September 22, 2011 01:18 PM (OhYCU)

207 voting in this election is like betting on a race at the special olympics.

Posted by: tangonine at September 22, 2011 01:19 PM (x3YFz)

208 Lady , that was disappointing.

Posted by: willow at September 22, 2011 01:19 PM (h+qn8)

209 A little research on the hashtag of the guy who posted the not-so-subtle racist crap in #203 reveals that...you guessed it, Birther, plus a delightful dash of anti-Semitism as well, in his comments.

What I love/hate most about these guys is the way they keep changing their names. But the hashtag reveals all, assholes!

Posted by: Jeff B. at September 22, 2011 01:19 PM (kRtDX)

210 Darn the Sock

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at September 22, 2011 01:19 PM (ZDUD4)

211 Why would McCotter's endorsement mean anything? Are is one or two supporters gonna go vote for Mitt?

In my case, it didn't have much to do with his supporters. I just had a belief that he was sharp enough to see through Romney's big NE RINO hit parade.

Posted by: Lady in Black at September 22, 2011 01:20 PM (ycuSb)

212 Just saw on Weasel Zippers that Bolton is advising Perry on foreign policy. That is according to Politico. If true, that is frigging awesome.

Posted by: Mandy P. refuses to watch the SCOAMF at September 22, 2011 01:20 PM (qFpRI)

213 #204 actually Romney had all the good ( at least for conservatives) endorsements in 2008. So he is just doing a repeat.

Posted by: polynikes - Texan for Romney at September 22, 2011 01:20 PM (Z6fyp)

214 You lie!

Posted by: Joe Wilson at September 22, 2011 01:20 PM (hW3KZ)

215 Wasn't McCotter in favor of the auto bailouts?

Posted by: buzzion at September 22, 2011 01:21 PM (GULKT)

216 203 I drink grape Kool Aide, ...that's why my lips are purple.

Posted by: The Precedent of these 58 Benighted States at September 22, 2011 05:13 PM (J74Py)

Yeah. We saw your ass coming a mile away, shitbag.

Posted by: tangonine at September 22, 2011 01:21 PM (x3YFz)

217 "purple lips" are racist??? Do you know any smokers?

Posted by: cherry pi, terrorist hostage taking SOB at September 22, 2011 01:21 PM (OhYCU)

218 Jan Schakowski: This is not a principled fight, this is about getting there Hail Alinksy! Hail Dear Leader!

Posted by: motionview at September 22, 2011 01:21 PM (zRbkQ)

219 >>>206, Doesn't it seem like those already in office are trying to keep the incredible amount of goodies that go with being elected to congress?

No.

Really, no.

That's not what is behind these endorsements. That's not the way politicians think. I'm 100% certain it has to do with considerations of electability, and also perhaps you can't rule out the old "cool appointment" thing too. But an endorsement based on the (weird, random) idea that Romney would...um, what, preserve Congressional benefits and Perry would not? I seriously doubt that's on anyone's mind.

Posted by: Jeff B. at September 22, 2011 01:21 PM (kRtDX)

220 McCotterÂ’s linking up to a presidential candidate whoÂ’s popular in the state, and whoÂ’s the son of a former governor."

Posted by: Lady in Black at September 22, 2011 05:17 PM (ycuSb)

In other words, this is a politician's endorsement, not an endorsement of who he might think is the better candidate.

Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at September 22, 2011 01:22 PM (W8W07)

221 224, If that is true, I'm a Perrybot. That's a smart move right there. Unless of course she who can not be named pulls the trigger.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at September 22, 2011 01:22 PM (ZDUD4)

222 Posted by: Mandy P. refuses to watch the SCOAMF at September 22, 2011 05:20 PM (qFpRI)

Perry / The 'Stache 2012

Posted by: beedubya at September 22, 2011 01:22 PM (AnTyA)

223 225 #204 actually Romney had all the good ( at least for conservatives) endorsements in 2008. So he is just doing a repeat.

Posted by: polynikes - Texan for Romney at September 22, 2011 05:20 PM (Z6fyp)

Thats back when Romney was the most conservative. Back then, I went with McCain for electability.

I'm not for Mittens yet, see learning from mistake above.

Posted by: Jollyroger at September 22, 2011 01:23 PM (NCw5u)

224 Do endorsements really mean a damn thing?

Posted by: USS Diversity at September 22, 2011 01:23 PM (aD5Kx)

225 Hey whats a guy gotta do to be inducted into the debate livestream family around here?

Posted by: sonnyspats on a first name basis with Johnny Cold Cuts at September 22, 2011 01:23 PM (I/MzF)

226 You been had. Bamboozled. Run amok. That would only be true if I had ever believed a single word the filthy liar ever said.

Posted by: CoolCzech at September 22, 2011 01:23 PM (niZvt)

227 234 Posted by: Mandy P. refuses to watch the SCOAMF at September 22, 2011 05:20 PM (qFpRI) Perry / The 'Stache 2012 Posted by: beedubya at September 22, 2011 05:22 PM (AnTyA) That's a conservagasm right there.

Posted by: Mandy P. refuses to watch the SCOAMF at September 22, 2011 01:23 PM (qFpRI)

228 233 224, If that is true, I'm a Perrybot. That's a smart move right there. Unless of course she who can not be named pulls the trigger.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at September 22, 2011 05:22 PM (ZDUD4)

werd.

Posted by: tangonine at September 22, 2011 01:23 PM (x3YFz)

229 231, OK, then we disagree, self preservation is a pretty strong drive.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at September 22, 2011 01:23 PM (ZDUD4)

230 Thad, Thad, Thad, you only had 2 votes in all of America. Me and you. Even your family wasn't with you. And then you endorse Mitt. You are all alone now buddy. You and your fabulous hair.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at September 22, 2011 01:24 PM (jiVmv)

231 >>>"purple lips" are racist??? Do you know any smokers?

I am one. My lips are fine.

But seriously, "grape juice" and "purple lips" are two pretty hoary "black people be funny!" tropes. And the guy has a posting history that backs it up, too.

Honestly, I'm fucking tired of dancing around the edge of racialist humor w/r/t Obama. The man is a SCOAMF. His record speaks so ELOQUENTLY for itself, without the need to descend to that sort of (frankly alienating) level.

Posted by: Jeff B. at September 22, 2011 01:24 PM (kRtDX)

232 Just saw on Weasel Zippers that Bolton is advising Perry on foreign policy. That is according to Politico. If true, that is frigging awesome.

Posted by: Mandy P. refuses to watch the SCOAMF at September 22, 2011 05:20 PM (qFpRI)

Whoa! The juggernaut is being built.

Posted by: ErikW at September 22, 2011 01:24 PM (KinxY)

233 237Do endorsements really mean a damn thing?

Posted by: USS Diversity at September 22, 2011 05:23 PM (aD5Kx)

Uh well they used to but not any more

Posted by: Tiger Woods at September 22, 2011 01:25 PM (I/MzF)

234 206 McCotter endorses Mittens link. Kinda disappointed in him.

I think the anti-Perry faction is worried and lining up their ducks early to try to nip him in the bud.

But Romney? Really? Sure, Mittens could get independents to vote for him, but then the party will just look like 2004. Who wants THAT again?

Posted by: Arms Merchant at September 22, 2011 01:25 PM (hW3KZ)

235 Hey! Where are the homeless?

Posted by: SurferDoc at September 22, 2011 01:25 PM (STdkO)

236 Do endorsements really mean a damn thing?

Not yet, until the big guns come out. Its still early for endorsements.

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2011 01:25 PM (M9Ie6)

237 Do endorsements really mean a damn thing?

Almost never. But I'm pretty sure Palin's of Fiorina made a difference in the California primary, so it's not like they're useless.

Posted by: Meiczyslaw at September 22, 2011 01:25 PM (bjRNS)

238 OMG, if bolton is VP? Could you imagine the debate. Good christ, godzilla vs Bambi.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at September 22, 2011 01:26 PM (ZDUD4)

239 Sure, Mittens could get independents to vote for him, but then the party will just look like 2004 2008. Who wants THAT again?

FTFY

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2011 01:26 PM (M9Ie6)

240 244 >>>"purple lips" are racist??? Do you know any smokers?

I am one. My lips are fine.

But seriously, "grape juice" and "purple lips" are two pretty hoary "black people be funny!" tropes. And the guy has a posting history that backs it up, too.

Honestly, I'm fucking tired of dancing around the edge of racialist humor w/r/t Obama. The man is a SCOAMF. His record speaks so ELOQUENTLY for itself, without the need to descend to that sort of (frankly alienating) level.

Posted by: Jeff B. at September 22, 2011 05:24 PM (kRtDX)

SCOAMF is such a fucking dipshit that race insults are at the bottom of the list. This idiot has opened himself up to so much of an ass pounding that race will never ever be a part of why he's a douche.

Posted by: tangonine at September 22, 2011 01:26 PM (x3YFz)

241 Hey! Where are the homeless?

Oh, we solved that problem in 2008.

Posted by: Democrats at September 22, 2011 01:27 PM (HfydS)

242 252 OMG, if bolton is VP? Could you imagine the debate. Good christ, godzilla vs Bambi.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at September 22, 2011 05:26 PM (ZDUD4)

That would ROCK

Posted by: tangonine at September 22, 2011 01:28 PM (x3YFz)

243 Hey! Where are the homeless? They bought 300k homes with no money down loans.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at September 22, 2011 01:28 PM (ZDUD4)

244 >>Just saw on Weasel Zippers that Bolton is advising Perry on foreign policy. That is according to Politico. If true, that is frigging awesome. You should read the article on Politico. The WZ quote leaves out the small detail that Bolton said he is speaking with "several of the candidates".

Posted by: JackStraw at September 22, 2011 01:28 PM (TMB3S)

245 248 Hey! Where are the homeless?

Posted by: SurferDoc at September 22, 2011 05:25 PM (STdkO)

San Francisco.

Posted by: tangonine at September 22, 2011 01:28 PM (x3YFz)

246 Just saw on Weasel Zippers that Bolton is advising Perry on foreign policy. That is according to Politico. If true, that is frigging awesome.

Posted by: Mandy P. refuses to watch the SCOAMF at September 22, 2011 05:20 PM (qFpRI)

That moustache is magnificent isn't it? Maybe he could get Jaime Hieneman (mythbuster dude) as science advisor.

The Hair/The Stach 2012

Posted by: Jollyroger at September 22, 2011 01:28 PM (NCw5u)

247 Originally I didn't think endorsements meant much but then I considered that these people have personal knowledge of the candidates and can see the flaws or skills that voters will never see. If Perry gets a Bolton endorsement that would be big to me. It would also save Bolton from being defined as a low life turn coat RINO. You know you would.

Posted by: polynikes - Texan for Romney at September 22, 2011 01:29 PM (Z6fyp)

248 I've never heard of racist purple lips.

Posted by: cherry pi, terrorist hostage taking SOB at September 22, 2011 01:29 PM (OhYCU)

249 Not yet, until the big guns come out. Its still early for endorsements.

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2011 05:25 PM (M9Ie6)

I don't know. I heard the SCOAMF already has Teddy Kennedy's endorsement.

Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at September 22, 2011 01:30 PM (W8W07)

250 >>>SCOAMF is such a fucking dipshit that race insults are at the bottom of the list. This idiot has opened himself up to so much of an ass pounding that race will never ever be a part of why he's a douche.

Absolutely, exactly, 100% correct. This is my entire point.

Posted by: Jeff B. at September 22, 2011 01:30 PM (kRtDX)

251

Maybe he could get Jaime Hieneman (mythbuster dude) as science advisor.

Posted by: Jollyroger at September 22, 2011 05:28 PM (NCw5u)

Isn't he a flaming libtard?

Posted by: ErikW at September 22, 2011 01:31 PM (KinxY)

252

sock off

Actually the purple lips thing was a reference to Jimmy Jones and the People's Temple mass suicide.

Posted by: Speller at September 22, 2011 01:32 PM (J74Py)

253 Maybe he could get Jaime Hieneman (mythbuster dude) as science advisor.

FYI, I'm available, too.

Posted by: Al Gore at September 22, 2011 01:33 PM (HfydS)

254

Maybe he could get Jaime Hieneman (mythbuster dude) as science advisor.

Posted by: Jollyroger at September 22, 2011 05:28 PM (NCw5u)

Isn't he a flaming libtard?

Posted by: ErikW at September 22, 2011 05:31 PM (KinxY)

I'm not sure. I know Adam Savage does guest spots at Reason. I would say probably libertarian. Those guys like guns and explosives way to much to be liberals.

Posted by: Jollyroger at September 22, 2011 01:33 PM (NCw5u)

255 GARY JOHNSON!

Posted by: Guy What Yells Matt Damon at September 22, 2011 01:34 PM (jucos)

256 252 OMG, if bolton is VP? Could you imagine the debate. Good christ, godzilla vs Bambi.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at September 22, 2011 05:26 PM (ZDUD4)

And remember, it would be a debate against "foreign policy expert" Joe Biden.

Posted by: buzzion at September 22, 2011 01:35 PM (GULKT)

257 266

sock off

Actually the purple lips thing was a reference to Jimmy Jones and the People's Temple mass suicide.

Posted by: Speller at September 22, 2011 05:32 PM (J74Py)

We always assume racism. If wrong we blame Bush. (!!!!)

Posted by: MFM at September 22, 2011 01:36 PM (mue7s)

258 OT: House expects to debate tweaked CR after 8 pm et tonight and potentially go to a final vote on the bill itself by 10 pm or so.

/ChadPergram

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at September 22, 2011 01:36 PM (o2lIv)

259 And remember, it would be a debate against "foreign policy expert" Joe Biden.

Whoever the VP candidate is, I'm pretty sure the debate will be up there with Cheney vs Edwards as some of the funniest political comedy in decades.

Posted by: sandy burger at September 22, 2011 01:37 PM (HfydS)

260 Man, I don't care how many endorse Romney, he's an ABO vote only.

Posted by: KG at September 22, 2011 01:39 PM (LD21B)

261 Â“Motor City Hospitality dictates a Michigan message to Mitt that our struggling families, entrepreneurs and workers think Mr. Romney and Mr. Obama are not rivals, theyÂ’re running mates,Â” Thad McCotter, June 8, 2011

Â“[O]ur struggling families, entrepreneurs and workers canÂ’t afford policies that make Mr. Romney and Mr. Obama less than rivals, and more like running mates.Â”Thad McCotter, July, 2011.

McCotter endorses Romney, September 22, 2011.

And people actually wonder why professional politicians are held in such low regard.

Goodbye and good riddance to Thad McCotter Montgomery Burns.

Posted by: Tacitus at September 22, 2011 01:39 PM (Xv7f/)

262
President Romney = Justice Souter II . Guaranteed.

Posted by: Tacitus at September 22, 2011 01:40 PM (Xv7f/)

263 Man, I don't care how many endorse Romney, he's an ABO vote only.

Posted by: KG at September 22, 2011 05:39 PM (LD21B)

Yep, I'll vote for him just like I did for McCain and with the same amount of enthusiasm. I fucking despise the party of stoopid.

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 22, 2011 01:41 PM (OGZqf)

264 Fuck your lifetime retirement
Fuck your lifetime healthcare
Fuck your lifetime job (Term limits)

Posted by: Middle class at September 22, 2011 05:18 PM (ZDUD4)

You, sir are a clear and present danger to the establishment!

Glad you forgot to mention our insider trading exemption! Thanks for that.

Posted by: RINO Establishment A-Hole at September 22, 2011 01:43 PM (i3+c5)

265 273 Whoever the VP candidate is, I'm pretty sure the debate will be up there with Cheney vs Edwards as some of the funniest political comedy in decades.

Dennis Miller on the Cheney - Edwards debate (from memory)

"...John Edwards could not have seemed more like as a slick, oily southern lawyer than if he'd been wearing a seer-sucker suit and fanned himself with his hat..."

Posted by: Tacitus at September 22, 2011 01:45 PM (Xv7f/)

266 you're arguing over who's the least shittiest candidate. Think about it. None of these fuckers has the balls to pull us out of this tail-spin.

Gee, let me try to remember which other electoral cycle that same scenario also applied to.

Oh, wait, it's coming back to me- all of them.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 22, 2011 01:50 PM (SY2Kh)

267 >>>Dennis Miller on the Cheney - Edwards debate (from memory)

>>>"...John Edwards could not have seemed more like as a slick, oily southern lawyer than if he'd been wearing a seer-sucker suit and fanned himself with his hat..."

The Cheney/Edwards debate was some of the biggest political entertainment of that entire election season (Rathergate topped it, though). Cheney was like a friggin' python slowly choking its prey to death. I seriously expected him to methodically dislodge his lower jaw and swallow Edwards' corpse whole by the end of it.

Posted by: Jeff B. at September 22, 2011 01:55 PM (kRtDX)

268

plus a delightful dash of anti-Semitism as well, in his comments.~Jeff B.

Liar.

Posted by: Speller at September 22, 2011 02:05 PM (J74Py)

269 280 you're arguing over who's the least shittiest candidate. Think about it. None of these fuckers has the balls to pull us out of this tail-spin.

Gee, let me try to remember which other electoral cycle that same scenario also applied to.

Oh, wait, it's coming back to me- all of them.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 22, 2011 05:50 PM (SY2Kh)

I'm old enough to remember Ronald Reagan so... yeah.

Posted by: tangonine at September 22, 2011 02:06 PM (x3YFz)

270 283 280 you're arguing over who's the least shittiest candidate. Think about it. None of these fuckers has the balls to pull us out of this tail-spin.

Gee, let me try to remember which other electoral cycle that same scenario also applied to.

Oh, wait, it's coming back to me- all of them.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 22, 2011 05:50 PM (SY2Kh)

I'm old enough to remember Ronald Reagan so... yeah.

Posted by: tangonine at September 22, 2011 06:06 PM (x3YFz)

In fact, I voted for him in his second term and was serving in the military so fuck you with sponge bob's left nut. Homework, it's what keeps you out of jail.

Posted by: tangonine at September 22, 2011 02:07 PM (x3YFz)

271

@66: "At what point do we accept that Obama hates us, hates America, and is doing everything in his power to destroy both?"

Never. It is racist and counter-revolutionary to even consider such treasonous thoughts, let alone give voice to them.

Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at September 22, 2011 02:09 PM (xy9wk)

272

C'mon Ace explain to us all why Perry praised Hillarycare. And all the Kool Aide drinkers here can explain that one to us as well. Explain to us why that all BS.

But Perry is against government healthcare. Guess that's why in 1988 he was one of Gore's campaign managers.

Posted by: Molon Labe at September 22, 2011 02:15 PM (S7K8x)

273 Well duh, this was the plan all along. Make it impossible to provide traditional health insurance, make the exchanges impossible to finance, collapse the system, and throw up your hands - we need nationalized health care with demonRats in charge!

Posted by: ExExZonie at September 22, 2011 02:17 PM (f1xfk)

274

Guess that's why in 1988 he was one of Gore's campaign managers.

Did you know that Ronald Reagan used to be a Democrat too? Yeah, really. Still, some people thought he made a fair, not perfect, Republican president.

Posted by: Speller at September 22, 2011 02:19 PM (J74Py)

275 I'm old enough to remember Ronald Reagan so... yeah.

Reagan wasn't a perfect candidate either. If he were running today he'd have trouble passing the Purity Test with supporters of Bachmann and Palin screaming "establishment abortionist RINO!!!"

Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 22, 2011 02:23 PM (SY2Kh)

276 C'mon Ace explain to us all why Perry praised Hillarycare. And all the Kool Aide drinkers here can explain that one to us as well. Explain to us why that all BS.

Wow. I wasn't going to jump on the "you're an idiot" bandwagon, but yeah- you're pretty fucking stupid. It's been explained that no, he didn't praise Hillarycare. That it didn't yet exist should've been your first clue why it's BS.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 22, 2011 02:25 PM (SY2Kh)

277 Open enrollment starts in about 10 days where I work (full disclosure: county employee) and people are stroking out over the new premiums. They have DOUBLED. No one can afford them without serious money issues in their lives. When I ask them who they voted for and they say SCOAMF, I reply "sucks for you and thanks a lot."

Posted by: mpfs, TPT at September 22, 2011 02:29 PM (iYbLN)

278 Happy I'm getting my colonoscopy tomorrow because who knows what incompetent doctor will be sticking stuff up my rectum once Obamacare goes full Tardisil on the American public.

Posted by: mpfs, TPT at September 22, 2011 02:40 PM (iYbLN)

279 what the spammer said

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Posted by: The Detachment AudioBook at September 22, 2011 06:04 PM (+uroR)

281 Two more words: Tom Daschle.

All anyone had to do was notice the bamboozling began in the Stimulus Bill, that's right you can trace it back to its inception there. That is where Daschle was allowed to slip in the foundation of the building blocks.
_________________
New Penalties
Hospitals and doctors that are not Â“meaningful usersÂ” of the new system will face penalties. Â“Meaningful userÂ” isnÂ’t defined in the bill. That will be left to the HHS secretary, who will be empowered to impose Â“more stringent measures of meaningful use over timeÂ” (511, 518, 540-541)

What penalties will deter your doctor from going beyond the electronically delivered protocols when your condition is atypical or you need an experimental treatment? The vagueness is intentional. In his book, Daschle proposed an appointed body with vast powers to make the Â“toughÂ” decisions elected politicians wonÂ’t make.

The stimulus bill does that, and calls it the Federal Coordinating Council for Comparative Effectiveness Research (190-192). The goal, DaschleÂ’s book explained, is to slow the development and use of new medications and technologies because they are driving up costs. He praises Europeans for being more willing to accept Â“hopeless diagnosesÂ” and Â“forgo experimental treatments,Â” and he chastises Americans for expecting too much from the health-care system"

________________________________

Now you know why he was nominated for HHS, too bad being a tax cheat didn't keep his finger out, eh? Search for the article, "Ruin your health with the Obama Stimulus Plan" by Betsy McCaughey, Feb. 09, 2009. Now you know why some cancer drugs and medications are now going defunct and out of reach already...because you silly Americans expect too much from the health care system.

Posted by: halodoc at September 23, 2011 09:53 AM (gLiPk)

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