February 23, 2011
— Ace We were assured there was no problem with gay marriage on the state level, because we had DOMA to thwart lawsuits to force it on to unwilling states.
“My own belief is that when two people love each other and enter the contract of marriage, the Federal government should honor that.I opposed the Defense of Marriage Act in 1996. It was the wrong law then; it is the wrong law now; and it should be repealed.”
As usual, marriage is being redefined from a manner of producing stability in families and therefore creating and caring for children to a Valentine's Day sort of romantic/sexual "love."
Marriage is now just a Federal Certificate of Goin' Steady.
Odd that we never before needed a government sanction for Goin' Steady before.
Just recently we were informed by McClatchy newspapers that a "new, crafty" type of leadership had been invented by Obama -- not leading.
Isn't it funny that Obama is capable of the Old and Busted style of leadership (where you, you know, lead) on issues he cares about?
Why no "new, crafty" style of leadership on gay issues?
But: You bitter clingers should know Obama's still on your side, sort of. He's still "grappling" with the issue.
Spokesman Jay Carney said Obama has always opposed the Defense of Marriage Act as "unnecessary and unfair." But Carney said there's no change to how Obama views gay marriage itself.
He's not sure if gays should have the right to get married, but he's certain that it's "unnecessary and unfair" to deny them marriage.
What? Doesn't that mean he's actually decided?
No, no, no. He's still "grappling." Because his pollsters told him to say that.
See, he's conflicted and open-minded, just like you. Except he's acting like a determined ideologue. But inside he's all confused and "grappling." And that's what's important. Or something.
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The House will tell them exactly where they can shove it along with "Pass the CR, jackholes!"
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 23, 2011 12:25 PM (bxvFd)
Posted by: tcn at February 23, 2011 12:26 PM (DjPot)
Posted by: Henry V at February 23, 2011 12:26 PM (QKKT0)
Posted by: catmman at February 23, 2011 12:26 PM (DTzwU)
Posted by: Soothsayer at February 23, 2011 12:27 PM (uFokq)
Posted by: John Boehners Pee Stained Slacks at February 23, 2011 12:27 PM (EL+OC)
Please get back to me so I can re-order my life accordingly.
Posted by: alwyr at February 23, 2011 12:28 PM (w2++y)
Posted by: Soothsayer at February 23, 2011 12:28 PM (uFokq)
Monogamist Bigot.
Posted by: toby928™ at February 23, 2011 12:29 PM (GTbGH)
She just looks Less Crazy-Lib next to Ma'am Boxer ( who is Bat Shit Crazy )
Posted by: SantaRosaStan at February 23, 2011 12:30 PM (UqKQV)
Posted by: California Red at February 23, 2011 12:30 PM (7uWb8)
Because the President declaring a law unconstitutional and refusing to follow it is something libertarians should support.
Posted by: andycanuck at February 23, 2011 12:31 PM (7H/n0)
Posted by: The American People at February 23, 2011 12:31 PM (x9xik)
but many of those Deluded White and HisPanic voters is a whole nother story
...many of them, there are
Posted by: SantaRosaStan at February 23, 2011 12:32 PM (UqKQV)
Posted by: Soothsayer at February 23, 2011 12:32 PM (uFokq)
Posted by: cvb at February 23, 2011 12:33 PM (Elo4W)
What does this tell us?
Posted by: Vic at February 23, 2011 12:33 PM (M9Ie6)
Wait, what? Oh, never mind.
Posted by: King Obambi I at February 23, 2011 12:34 PM (dWFSK)
Posted by: Joe Mama at February 23, 2011 12:34 PM (pRKLf)
And just what in the hell do you mean by that?
Posted by: CBC at February 23, 2011 12:34 PM (EL+OC)
They are trying to change the subject of the discussion because those dollar things are killing them.
Posted by: Vic at February 23, 2011 12:34 PM (M9Ie6)
she's always talked Center while acting and voting Left
A wolf in dung-smeared wolf's clothing, or something like that
Posted by: SantaRosaStan at February 23, 2011 12:34 PM (UqKQV)
So Zero and his genital parasites have taken over the judiciary branch now too? We don't need no stinkin' justices to tell us what is and is not constitutional? Lets see how far that gets. And Feinstein can go get domestic partnered up the ass.
These fucks make me miss the simple incompetence of the Carter Administration.
Posted by: maddogg at February 23, 2011 12:35 PM (OlN4e)
Posted by: Soothsayer at February 23, 2011 12:35 PM (uFokq)
Posted by: Bieber must die, for harvest at February 23, 2011 12:35 PM (F/4zf)
Economy. Oil. Feckless Foreign Policy. Debt. Spending. " hey, look a gay!"
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at February 23, 2011 12:36 PM (xdHzq)
They are trying to change the subject of the discussion because those dollar things are killing them.
Which is why the Republicans in the House and Senate should be screaming about the CR instead of this.
The House, if they feel like it, can just let this bill die on the vine because the Dems don't have enough votes behind them to get this onto the floor.
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 23, 2011 12:36 PM (bxvFd)
Or not to lead?
That is the question.
Whatever Barack does is just dreamy isn't it? mmm mmm mmm
Posted by: Barack Holster Media at February 23, 2011 12:36 PM (aqrjR)
Posted by: MīcÞeMūs at February 23, 2011 12:36 PM (0q2P7)
He truly thinks he can do whatever he wants with no ramifications. He's been pretty successful so far, I know, but I'm just sayin. All these tards that said that GWB was a dictator, this guy is actually DOING it.
Posted by: © Sponge at February 23, 2011 12:36 PM (UK9cE)
I say "decline" and chide Feinstein for distracting from the CR.
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 23, 2011 12:36 PM (bxvFd)
Hey, that's great, guess Obama has no problem with bigamy or grown children marrying their parents, as long as they love each other of course.
Posted by: booger at February 23, 2011 12:37 PM (9RFH1)
Posted by: Chuckit at February 23, 2011 12:37 PM (+mK9z)
Posted by: CUS at February 23, 2011 12:37 PM (wOGfT)
Economy. Oil. Feckless Foreign Policy. Debt. Spending. " hey, look a gay!"
Hey, no smoke. Barry hasn't smoked in a year.
Posted by: Moochelle O. at February 23, 2011 12:38 PM (aqrjR)
We'll get around to discussing that.
Posted by: JOhn Boehners Soiled Trousers at February 23, 2011 12:38 PM (EL+OC)
Posted by: joncelli at February 23, 2011 12:39 PM (RD7QR)
Ignore it. It's an attempt to split the caucus on social issues. Remember that whole "truce" that dirty RINO Daniels proposed. Time to enact it sort of backwards. We just won't discuss this right now.
Posted by: MīcÞeMūs at February 23, 2011 12:39 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: dananjcon at February 23, 2011 12:39 PM (pr+up)
Posted by: Soothsayer at February 23, 2011 12:39 PM (uFokq)
Posted by: maddogg at February 23, 2011 12:40 PM (OlN4e)
I never thought so, but apparently homosexuals are so mentally ill that they need the theoretical existence of same-sex marriage (very few people actually take advantage of it when available and a tiny fraction are couples who are both under 50).
Like I said, I never believed it before, but I'm being told that this is super-essential because of discrimination or something, but not for any public policy benefit.
I used to think that homosexuality was a genuine expression of a genuine sexual desire. But if it were, that would cause problems with cohabitation in the military for the same reasons that bunking men with women would cause. But I guess it isn't a sexual desire, it must be some sort of kink or casual perversion that can be easily suppressed and ignored.
I will fight against the tide that homosexuals are somehow weirdos who need to have their heads patted and told that we really really really really like them but I guess our betters have spoken.
Posted by: AmishDude at February 23, 2011 12:40 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: nerdygirl at February 23, 2011 12:41 PM (P3uKs)
Posted by: maddogg at February 23, 2011 04:40 PM (OlN4e)
Cut Jib Newsletter
Posted by: Kevin Jennings at February 23, 2011 12:41 PM (7BU4a)
Posted by: MīcÞeMūs at February 23, 2011 12:42 PM (0q2P7)
And not that this matters or is in any way significant but didn't B+ Easy Bake just meet with all the tech guru's last week?
Posted by: laceyunderalls at February 23, 2011 12:42 PM (pLTLS)
Yet here you are defending your DOMA, using the government to invade the private lives of people you don't know and don't live anywhere near bumblefuck Alabama.
You're bigots. Don't argue, don't bother with your disgusting retorts. You're bigots. Intolerant, hateful, xenophobic bigots. Using bigotry to get other bigots excited. That's your defense of marriage act. Rally bell for bigots at election time.
The world is changing and you bigots WILL be bred out of existence. History will remember you bigots like it remembers all the others - sadly.
oh - And churches will never be forced to marry anybody - so just stop with that nonsense. Its utter nonsense - But when you listen to people like Glen Beck I guess you can believe anything.
Posted by: Jimmy-Joe at February 23, 2011 12:42 PM (vUdSP)
Posted by: MīcÞeMūs at February 23, 2011 04:39 PM (0q2P7)
Yeah, that was the thing about the truce. NonSoCons loved it but SoCons know that the push on social issues always comes from the Left. Always.
Posted by: AmishDude at February 23, 2011 12:43 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Soothsayer at February 23, 2011 12:43 PM (uFokq)
I think it's more like:
Feinstein To Introduce Social-Issue Bill That Will Distract & Divide the Republican Party.
Gee, how is something upon which there is an overwhelming consensus "divisive".
It's almost like there is a tiny radical group hell bent on pushing its agenda no matter what....no, wait, there is....
Posted by: Curmudgeon at February 23, 2011 12:43 PM (ujg0T)
I've heard it rumored elsewhere as well.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 23, 2011 12:43 PM (/G5LI)
Posted by: nerdygirl at February 23, 2011 12:44 PM (P3uKs)
Posted by: nerdygirl at February 23, 2011 04:41 PM (P3uKs)
You're welcome to do it, but it will fall only on the choir. Those facts will NEVER be seen by the typical voter in this country because they think you're the devil for pointing it out and a liar, because you're the devil and that's what you do.
Posted by: © Sponge at February 23, 2011 12:44 PM (UK9cE)
I question the timing. Why, is this all of a sudden, a priority? Don't we have more pressing issues going on--like oh, the deficit, the unrest in the Middle East, the rising gas prices (a topic the media is completely ignoring but they were focused like a laser on it during the 2008 elections), the fight between WI and the public sector unions, etc., etc.
Unbelievable, yet not really.
Posted by: runningrn at February 23, 2011 12:44 PM (ihSHD)
Posted by: tcn at February 23, 2011 12:45 PM (DjPot)
Posted by: Jimmy-Joe at February 23, 2011 04:42 PM (vUdSP)
Yeesh...someone didn't get his daily reach-around.
Posted by: dananjcon at February 23, 2011 12:45 PM (pr+up)
Posted by: runningrn at February 23, 2011 12:45 PM (ihSHD)
You're bigots. Don't argue, don't bother with your disgusting retorts. You're bigots. Intolerant, hateful, xenophobic bigots. Using bigotry to get other bigots excited. That's your defense of marriage act. Rally bell for bigots at election time.
The world is changing and you bigots WILL be bred out of existence. History will remember you bigots like it remembers all the others - sadly.
oh - And churches will never be forced to marry anybody - so just stop with that nonsense. Its utter nonsense - But when you listen to people like Glen Beck I guess you can believe anything.
Posted by: Jimmy-Joe at February 23, 2011 04:42 PM (vUdSP)
Maybe you should switch to decaff ?
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 23, 2011 12:45 PM (/G5LI)
Of course, given that he's married to Michelle, you can't blame him for being "conflicted" about the idea of gay marriage. Anything would be better than waking up to that.
Posted by: nerdygirl at February 23, 2011 04:44 PM (P3uKs)
I'm with you on that.
Posted by: Barney Frank at February 23, 2011 12:46 PM (EL+OC)
I saw an article the other day that implied that Obama himself is "gay" or at the very least "bi." I think it was from that "Ulsterman" guy who claims to be a white house insider.
I've heard it rumored elsewhere as well.
Well, duh!
Posted by: Larry What's His Name at February 23, 2011 12:46 PM (ihSHD)
The world is changing and you bigots WILL be bred out of existence.
Gee, when we are the "Breeders', how does that work?
xenophobic bigots
You mean all gays are foreign?
#55 is a sock, right?
Posted by: Curmudgeon at February 23, 2011 12:46 PM (ujg0T)
Posted by: Soothsayer at February 23, 2011 12:46 PM (uFokq)
Maybe you should switch to decaff ?
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 23, 2011 04:45 PM (/G5LI)
Maybe he should switch to "fuck off."
Posted by: tcn at February 23, 2011 12:46 PM (DjPot)
Posted by: nerdygirl at February 23, 2011 12:47 PM (P3uKs)
Such like the government would never force us to buy health insurance, right? *sarc*
Back to Daily Kos or the Huffington Post, from whence you came. Shoo!
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at February 23, 2011 12:47 PM (9hSKh)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 23, 2011 12:47 PM (TATbF)
Jimmy-blow
Don't goway mad, just go the fuck away.
Posted by: maddogg at February 23, 2011 04:44 PM (OlN4e)
That is not the approved Honey Badger response!!
Posted by: Tami at February 23, 2011 12:47 PM (VuLos)
Me neither.
Posted by: BobInFL at February 23, 2011 12:47 PM (edlRB)
Posted by: Soothsayer at February 23, 2011 04:46 PM (uFokq)
This, X1000. But beware of the goofy hashtag.
Posted by: tcn at February 23, 2011 12:48 PM (DjPot)
Posted by: ParisParamus at February 23, 2011 12:48 PM (aOpxx)
When Scientists Attack
Â… or Â…
Winning The Future: Spotted Owl Edition
NothingÂ’s worked. Not the clamp on federal timber sales that hammered OregonÂ’s mill towns. Not the lawsuits or the listing as an endangered species. The belated work to retain and restore its favored old-growth habitat will take decades to unfold. Twenty plus years of trying to save the northern spotted owl and itÂ’s still slipping away.
Come summer, federal wildlife officials expect to finish a draft environmental impact statement that most likely recommends taking to the woods with shotguns. Over the next year, in three or more study areas from Washington to northern California, they might kill 1,200 to 1,500 barred owls — the larger, more aggressive competitor that has routed spotted owls from much of their territory and become, along with habitat loss, the biggest threat to their survival.
Twenty years later … and not even a “sorry about that”
Posted by: Freddie Mercury at February 23, 2011 12:48 PM (tvs2p)
Awww, looky there, another tolerant liberal calling people bigots while referring to "bumblefuck Alabama" and calling himself Jimmy-Joe, no hatred in his bleeding heart for anyone is there? Course not, you worthless fuckin' white trash rednecks are the bigots, not him. I doubt ol' Jimmy-Joe will stick around, he probably has to go meet some asshole Christian somewhere and get all tolerant on his bigoted ass.
Posted by: booger at February 23, 2011 12:48 PM (9RFH1)
I've heard it rumored elsewhere as well.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 23, 2011 04:43 PM (/G5LI)
That rumor sucks. Why do you wingnuts always thrust out conclusions like this, without bothering to dock them to any type of facts?
Hey, did it suddenly get hot in here?
Posted by: Kal Penn at February 23, 2011 12:48 PM (7BU4a)
You're bigots. Don't argue, don't bother with your disgusting retorts. You're bigots. Intolerant, hateful, xenophobic bigots. Using bigotry to get other bigots excited. That's your defense of marriage act. Rally bell for bigots at election time.
Hmm, funny that! DOMA was passed by that Reich winger, Bill Clinton. Funny how everything Barky has done in office has erased Clinton's "legacy"--repeal of DADT, repeal of DOMA, repeal of welfare reform, etc., etc.
Posted by: Larry What's His Name at February 23, 2011 12:48 PM (ihSHD)
The world is changing and you bigots WILL be bred out of existence.
I'm guessing you never took a biology class.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at February 23, 2011 12:49 PM (JxMoP)
Oil goes uppity-up-up
Dow goes down-dity-down-down.
Posted by: CUS at February 23, 2011 12:49 PM (wOGfT)
Posted by: Sgt. Batguano at February 23, 2011 12:49 PM (ehKDD)
Wow. Did you come up with that all by yourself or did you just get a weekday pass from momma's basement and repost some koskrap?
Marriage is pretty much defined in the bible, which most conservatives and Americans believe in. If you want same sex unions, fight for that. No one really cares. Stop trying to hijack the sanctity of MARRIAGE and go for your own gay union. The reason you catch so much flack for your ranting and demanding is because a majority of Americans DO NOT AGREE WITH YOU and think that homosexuality is wrong. GET OVER IT.....You will never be in the majority, especially when we're all Moose lambs.
You and your 'gay rights' group picked the wrong topic to bludgeon. Besides.....didn't the first gay couple to marry come to Texas and demand a divorce? Worked out well, I see.......
Posted by: © Sponge at February 23, 2011 12:51 PM (UK9cE)
Projection alert! You're the bigot. I outlined it above. You only want same-sex marriage because you have a paternalistic condescension toward homosexuals.
Posted by: AmishDude at February 23, 2011 12:51 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at February 23, 2011 12:51 PM (xdHzq)
Posted by: Kal Penn at February 23, 2011 12:51 PM (aqrjR)
Posted by: John P. Squibob at February 23, 2011 12:51 PM (s82AE)
Come summer, federal wildlife officials expect to finish a draft environmental impact statement that most likely recommends taking to the woods with shotguns. Over the next year, in three or more study areas from Washington to northern California, they might kill 1,200 to 1,500 barred owls — the larger, more aggressive competitor that has routed spotted owls from much of their territory and become, along with habitat loss, the biggest threat to their survival.
It just is amazing to me that the people who profess to believe in Darwinism and evolution of the species are the ones who proactively prevent "survival of the fittest" from occurring.
Posted by: runningrn at February 23, 2011 12:51 PM (ihSHD)
Posted by: nerdygirl at February 23, 2011 12:53 PM (P3uKs)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 23, 2011 12:53 PM (OW0nw)
Posted by: maddogg at February 23, 2011 12:53 PM (OlN4e)
Posted by: George Orwell at February 23, 2011 12:53 PM (+vkOU)
Posted by: Jimmy-Joe at February 23, 2011 04:42 PM (vUdSP)
The fact of the matter is...WE don't give a rats ass wtf people do in the privacy of their own home/lives. Its when the issue is used as a cudgle to beat over our heads that we get offended. You should be more at odds with your fearless leader(s) who are simply using something that YOU hold near and dear as a smoke screen for what is trully the issues that need to solved IE the size and scope of FUCKING GOVERNMENT. Do trully free people need some suit in DC to tell them who and who they can't marry? The majority of civil partners in this country could give two fucks about the loud mouth left coasters and alike. Like us...they just want to be left alone to care and provide for themselves and their own.
Now shoo and get off our lawn.
Jagg-off
Posted by: dananjcon at February 23, 2011 12:54 PM (pr+up)
Posted by: TRD at February 23, 2011 12:55 PM (PGSXB)
Troll Foo Rating 3 of 10.
I'll make it real simple for your libby mind. Government has only one enduring interest in personal relationships, those that yield offspring. That's the way it has been all the way back to Ancient Greece, where homosexuality was common. Keep a permanent homo-sexual partner sure! Marry them? Why? Marriage exists as a state of social obligation of procreating couples. It exists for no other reason. There are all sorts of different wonderful human relationships that are not covered by marriage. Nor should they be. They carry no social obligation, nor moral imperative; and should fall outside of government meddling and incentives.
Posted by: MīcÞeMūs at February 23, 2011 12:55 PM (0q2P7)
I used to have a friend that had endocrinal problems his whole life, some of them life threatening. He moved away, and I bought his house here in this town. Made payments to him once a month, for years so I started noticing that he was "changing."
Last time I seen him, he was a bonified Post-op tranny. He said that since his operation, he felt better than he had in his entire life. Funny thing was, the guy was only attracted to lesbians. He loved to watch female body builders and would remark about how sexy they were. (I thought they were disgusting. They replaced their tits with pects. )
Anyway, he honest to God had a sex change operation so he could be a Lesbian.
WTF?
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 23, 2011 12:55 PM (/G5LI)
I actually don't give a rat's ass about gay marriage, but I do enjoy irony.
Posted by: Ted Kennedy's Gristle Encased Head at February 23, 2011 12:55 PM (+lsX1)
Posted by: George Orwell at February 23, 2011 12:55 PM (+vkOU)
Posted by: nerdygirl at February 23, 2011 12:56 PM (P3uKs)
Posted by: buzzion at February 23, 2011 12:56 PM (oVQFe)
It just is amazing to me that the people who profess to believe in Darwinism and evolution of the species are the ones who proactively prevent "survival of the fittest" from occurring.
Posted by: runningrn at February 23, 2011 04:51 PM (ihSHD)
Not only that, but they can't stop meddling. They claim that Mother Nature knows best, except when she doesn't. Then it is up to their infinite wisdom to "correct" her.
Posted by: KG at February 23, 2011 12:56 PM (DeCj1)
Posted by: ace at February 23, 2011 12:57 PM (nj1bB)
Not really.
Think about this: Where in the bible does it say how to conduct a wedding?
Marriage is everywhere in every culture. It's a natural consequence of the human condition. It's binary because of the binary sexes. It's necessary because of the way the next generation comes about.
We don't have marriage so that women (or men) can wear a dress one day in their life so that they can feel pretty.
Posted by: AmishDude at February 23, 2011 12:57 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: JackStraw at February 23, 2011 12:57 PM (TMB3S)
That rumor sucks. Why do you wingnuts always thrust out conclusions like this, without bothering to dock them to any type of facts?
Hey, did it suddenly get hot in here?
Posted by: Kal Penn at February 23, 2011 04:48 PM (7BU4a)
I've heard rumors for years. I actually READ an article (Purported to be from "Ulsterman" the Secret White house insider.)
Try googling "Ulsterman". It's probably still on his website.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 23, 2011 12:58 PM (/G5LI)
Yes Obama is still 'grappling' with his position on the issue.
I'm sorry but this pic *never* gets old.
Posted by: laceyunderalls at February 23, 2011 12:58 PM (pLTLS)
The world is changing and you bigots WILL be bred out of existence.
I'm guessing you never took a biology class.
That would make sense if all heteros were bigots. We're not, simpleton. Do try to get out more and see how decent respectful, humane people actually live.Posted by: Jimmy-Joe at February 23, 2011 12:59 PM (vUdSP)
Over the next year, in three or more study areas from Washington to northern California, they might kill 1,200 to 1,500 barred owls — the larger, more aggressive competitor that has routed spotted owls from much of their territory and become, along with habitat loss, the biggest threat to their survival.
All I know is that somehow, someway, global warming climate change is responsible.
Posted by: Al Gore at February 23, 2011 12:59 PM (JxMoP)
Google Larry Sinclair. Also google Obama's type/Hillbuzz.
HillBuzz was all over this stuff for awhile there.
Posted by: momma at February 23, 2011 12:59 PM (penCf)
Oh, look. This comment is applicable to this thread too! So far no one is making me feel better.
Tell me again that I'm supposed to believe that this guy is just bumlbling and not a full out america hater bent on it's destruction? Then give me a reason to believe he's just inexperienced and naive and not that he isn't just working directly for George Soros, the communists or the muslims? Please.
Posted by: dagny at February 23, 2011 12:59 PM (In1re)
It makes you look like you're a busy thinker, tormented by unseen forces.
Also people bother you less.
Posted by: fb at February 23, 2011 12:59 PM (G60Nl)
I don't like this either, but some perspective please.
We have decoupled sex from marriage and procreation through widespread cohabitation, birth control, and cultural changes. An enormous number of children are conceived out of wedlock. No-fault divorce has turned marriage into a looser, emotional commitment between two people than a strong religious and social commitment between two people.
Gay marriage matters to some degree I would think, but so much less than everything else above. The fact that gay marriage is the so talked about says volumes about the priorities of the country and (sadly) the priorities of social conservatives in general.
Posted by: Paper at February 23, 2011 01:00 PM (VoSja)
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at February 23, 2011 04:56 PM (xdHzq)
I hope not...I fell for one last week too. Man I'm gullible...but always ready for a fight.
Need to start Binging suspect hashes.
Posted by: dananjcon at February 23, 2011 01:00 PM (pr+up)
Darling, I don't give a shit clit.
Posted by: Honey Badger at February 23, 2011 04:58 PM (gH+Hj)
Posted by: Jenna Jameson, Flick Floozie at February 23, 2011 01:00 PM (ZHsNw)
You don't get it.
Spotted owl goes extinct from natural causes and is replaced with a robust, not so picky owl, such as the Barred who doesn't give a sh*t where it nests, well fire up them chainsaws, and get that lumber industry back to work.
The Spotted owl has to be protected from natural evolution, even from a related Owl (Barred and Spotted can mate and have fertile offspring so they are almost the same species) not because the Owl is important, but because the cover the Owl provides to the political objective of destroying our industry.
Posted by: MīcÞeMūs at February 23, 2011 01:00 PM (0q2P7)
I'm sorry but this pic *never* gets old.
Posted by: laceyunderalls at February 23, 2011 04:58 PM (pLTLS)
Holy shit, lacey, that's so GAY.
Posted by: tcn at February 23, 2011 01:00 PM (DjPot)
Posted by: Soothsayer at February 23, 2011 01:00 PM (uFokq)
'you bigots WILL be bred out of existence'
How exactly will gays breed us out of existence?
Posted by: Schwalbe : The © at February 23, 2011 04:59 PM (UU0OF)
Its circle-jerk logic.
Posted by: dananjcon at February 23, 2011 01:00 PM (pr+up)
We don't have marriage so that women (or men) can wear a dress one day in their life so that they can feel pretty.
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Posted by: Martha Stewart Weddings Magazine at February 23, 2011 01:00 PM (pLTLS)
Yeah, I wouldn't really bring that up. They weren't exactly working with "consenting adults" there.
Posted by: AmishDude at February 23, 2011 01:00 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Jimmy-Joe at February 23, 2011 01:01 PM (vUdSP)
BTW, if the church had any balls, they'd refuse to marry anyone who received a civil marriage from the state.
Posted by: Alex at February 23, 2011 01:02 PM (x40U+)
Prop 8 passed by popular vote in California. It had huge support among African-Americans in Compton (among other places). I'm waiting for your protest march down Crenshaw...
Posted by: My narrative's better than the MBM's at February 23, 2011 01:02 PM (p05LM)
Holy shit, lacey, that's so GAY.
Well it's from Hillbuzz, and those boys are, well they're a little reactionary to this type of thing.
But you can't deny body language. I want to run this by O'Reilley's body language expert!!
Posted by: laceyunderalls at February 23, 2011 01:02 PM (pLTLS)
Also, this may be an unpopular view (maybe not here), but the growing acceptance of homosexuality will lead to a higher prevalence of homosexuality. I think that a society of 15% gay people is not as socially desirable as a society of 5% gay people.
I don't think homosexuality should be made illegal or that gays should be treated poorly, but moral hierarchy has its place in general social values.
Posted by: Paper at February 23, 2011 01:02 PM (VoSja)
Posted by: tcn at February 23, 2011 01:02 PM (DjPot)
'you bigots WILL be bred out of existence'
How exactly will gays breed us out of existence?
Posted by: Schwalbe : The © at February 23, 2011 04:59 PM (UU0OF)
Maybe he was talking about the Muslims. That's not going to be a better situation for teh gheys, though. But as long as the libs realize who their enemies are.
Posted by: AmishDude at February 23, 2011 01:02 PM (T0NGe)
You're bigots. Don't argue, don't bother with your disgusting retorts. You're bigots. Intolerant, hateful, xenophobic bigots. Using bigotry to get other bigots excited. That's your defense of marriage act. Rally bell for bigots at election time.
Thanks, Lindsay. OK, we're bigots.
Gays still shouldn't get married. It causes disaffection from society by a substantial portion of the population. Disenfranchised, marginalized majorities are good recipes for societal collapse.
Fuck you. Honey badger ain't gay.
Posted by: s'moron at February 23, 2011 01:03 PM (UaxA0)
We don't have marriage so that women (or men) can wear a dress one day in their life so that they can feel pretty.
That's not what the tv tells me. 
Posted by: Bridezilla #632 at February 23, 2011 01:03 PM (gH+Hj)
'you bigots WILL be bred out of existence'
How exactly will gays breed us out of existence?
Gays won't breed you out of existence. Decent heterosexual people that respect other human beings will. There's a lot of us!
Posted by: Jimmy-Joe at February 23, 2011 01:03 PM (vUdSP)
That would make sense if all heteros were bigots. We're not, simpleton. Do try to get out more and see how decent respectful, humane people actually live.
The dupe is back! Look, dupe, to quote another AOS moron: Marriage is for the purpose of children. That's the way it has been all the way back, even to Ancient Greece where homosexuality was common. You want to have a permanent homo-sexual partner? Fine. You can even draw up some kind of partnership contract with a lawyer.
But Marry them? Why? Marriage exists as a state of social obligation of procreating couples. It exists for no other reason. There are all sorts of different wonderful human relationships that are not covered by marriage. Nor should they be. They carry no social obligation, nor moral imperative; and should fall outside of government meddling and incentives.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at February 23, 2011 01:03 PM (ujg0T)
The world is changing and you bigots WILL be bred out of existence.
That's weird because "Us bigots" don't kill our babies which leads to an actual increased chance of survival.
Posted by: dagny at February 23, 2011 01:04 PM (In1re)
We? Dude, if you had as many pricks coming out as you've had going in, you'd look like a porcupine.
Posted by: toby928™ at February 23, 2011 01:04 PM (GTbGH)
Posted by: Jimmy-Joe at February 23, 2011 05:01 PM (vUdSP)
Projection!
You see, a condescending paternalistic attitude toward people isn't failing to be a bigot. It's just another form of bigotry.
Posted by: AmishDude at February 23, 2011 01:04 PM (T0NGe)
Not really.
Think about this: Where in the bible does it say how to conduct a wedding?
There are TONS of things in the bible about the union of man and woman and two becoming one and all that. As for the actual conducting of a wedding, that's been up to interpretation for centuries.
Posted by: © Sponge at February 23, 2011 01:04 PM (UK9cE)
Posted by: Soothsayer at February 23, 2011 01:05 PM (uFokq)
If jimmy-blow is a decent, respectable person, I'd say the standard has dropped pretty low.
Jimmy, being a seething pussy and a whiney limp wrist isn't decent and respectable, it's just disgusting.
Posted by: maddogg at February 23, 2011 01:05 PM (OlN4e)
Posted by: Jimmy-Joe at February 23, 2011 05:03 PM (vUdSP)
Anybody read the irony there from someone who claims they respect us and then calls us bigots with the same filthy mouth?
Wonder how he treats his blow-up girlfriend.
Posted by: tcn at February 23, 2011 01:05 PM (DjPot)
Posted by: Jimmy-Joe at February 23, 2011 05:01 PM (vUdSP)
This putz is a real troll it seems he/she/it hasn't posted since april 2010 when making fun of the teaparty was all the rage.
have at it.
I gotta go sit in traffic.
Posted by: dananjcon at February 23, 2011 01:05 PM (pr+up)
Posted by: AmishDude at February 23, 2011 05:00 PM (T0NGe)
It wasn't rape rape
Posted by: Whoopi Goldberg at February 23, 2011 01:06 PM (7BU4a)
What does this tell us?
Posted by: Vic at February 23, 2011 04:33 PM (M9Ie6)
That at least 50% of Californians are stupid fucking brain dead idiots with zero critical thinking. They vote down the policies that Democrats want to enact when they are given the chance, but then they go and elect the Democrats who will then pull an end-round past them and get it through anyways.
Posted by: buzzion at February 23, 2011 01:07 PM (oVQFe)
It wasn't rape rape
Posted by: Whoopi Goldberg at February 23, 2011 05:06 PM (7BU4a)
No, that was Jimmy-Joe's mama.
Posted by: tcn at February 23, 2011 01:07 PM (DjPot)
'you bigots WILL be bred out of existence'
How exactly will gays breed us out of existence?
Posted by: Schwalbe : The � at February 23, 2011 04:59 PM (UU0OF)
Its circle-jerk logic.
Posted by: dananjcon at February 23, 2011 05:00 PM (pr+up)
Where do I send the bill for a new monitor? I just spit coffee all over my current one.
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 23, 2011 01:07 PM (bxvFd)
That couch sure is.
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at February 23, 2011 01:07 PM (xdHzq)
Posted by: Soothsayer at February 23, 2011 01:07 PM (uFokq)
This putz is a real troll it seems he/she/it hasn't posted since april 2010 when making fun of the teaparty was all the rage.
have at it.
I gotta go sit in traffic.
Posted by: dananjcon at February 23, 2011 05:05 PM (pr+up)
No, he's been here since then.
Posted by: Tami at February 23, 2011 01:07 PM (VuLos)
But you can't deny body language. I want to run this by O'Reilley's body language expert!!
Posted by: laceyunderalls at February 23, 2011 05:02 PM (pLTLS)
His body language in this photo shows that Obama is in a strong position of power in that relationship. He's so relaxed and powerful. See how at ease he is? This means he's in a comfort zone. Of power. So strong...
Posted by: Tonya R. at February 23, 2011 01:07 PM (gH+Hj)
That's weird because "Us bigots" don't kill our babies which leads to an actual increased chance of survival.
---------------
Watch and see how fast the activist homosexual groups turn against abortion when the "gay" gene is isolated and a prenatal test is developed.
Posted by: Al Gore at February 23, 2011 01:07 PM (JxMoP)
Yes Obama is still 'grappling' with his position on the issue.
I'm sorry but this pic *never* gets old.
Posted by: laceyunderalls at February 23, 2011 04:58 PM (pLTLS)
OMG I'D NEVER SEEN THAT!
Argument over.
Posted by: dagny at February 23, 2011 01:07 PM (In1re)
Yeah, I wouldn't really bring that up. They weren't exactly working with "consenting adults" there.
Posted by: AmishDude at February 23, 2011 05:00 PM (T0NGe)
From what I recall, Ancient Greece practiced Pedophilia, not homosexuality. Adult males diddling young boys. Adult Males diddling each other was considered perverted.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 23, 2011 01:08 PM (/G5LI)
Posted by: Tonya R. at February 23, 2011 05:07 PM (gH+Hj)
Quick, Tonya, fan off, fan off!
Posted by: tcn at February 23, 2011 01:08 PM (DjPot)
Posted by: Mitch "The Truce" Daniels at February 23, 2011 01:08 PM (32ubA)
The world is changing and you bigots WILL be bred out of existence. History will remember you bigots like it remembers all the others - sadly.
And how the hell are you gheyboys going to do this?
Posted by: Barak the Hussein at February 23, 2011 01:09 PM (hypVB)
Posted by: Tigtog at February 23, 2011 01:09 PM (Q5+Og)
Posted by: JackStraw at February 23, 2011 04:57 PM (TMB3S)
Bitter Clinger
And there are worse things then being married to a hairdresser you know.
Posted by: Barack Obama at February 23, 2011 01:09 PM (7BU4a)
Posted by: Jimmy-Joe at February 23, 2011 05:01 PM (vUdSP)
Prior to 1973, Homosexuality was classified as a mental disorder. Considering the comments from above, It's starting to look like they were right the first time.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 23, 2011 01:09 PM (/G5LI)
All libbies do ascribe to the Church of "Never have kids"
What you've had kids!!!!
Think about the carbon footprint!!!
Gaia weeps for your selfishness!!!!
Abortion is every woman's responsibility!!!!
We have too many people polluting the planet right now!!!!
I, on the other hand, am Catholic.
Go ahead, convince yourself how depo popping, don't even try until I'm 37 and have a career, just have one kid think of the planet, libby chicks are going to out pace the Duggars.
Posted by: MīcÞeMūs at February 23, 2011 01:09 PM (0q2P7)
And why doesn't jimmy joe know about Gabe?
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at February 23, 2011 01:09 PM (xdHzq)
And how the hell are you gheyboys going to do this?
Gay scientists are going to develop the first reproductive asshole.
Posted by: maddogg at February 23, 2011 01:10 PM (OlN4e)
Posted by: dagny at February 23, 2011 01:11 PM (In1re)
Nope. it's defending decent people I know from bigots like you. Friends of my family. co-workers, relatives. Decent and valuable people under attack from bigots like you.
That's what it is.
Posted by: Jimmy-Joe at February 23, 2011 01:11 PM (vUdSP)
Posted by: tcn at February 23, 2011 01:11 PM (DjPot)
Well, duh, it's so people can extort brand-new housewares from all their acquaintances.
I'm waiting for someone to show me a single instance where federal government has ever prevented any couple of any composition from having a big lavish party with hand-holding commitment ceremony....
Posted by: HeatherRadish at February 23, 2011 01:11 PM (nAOMZ)
Look at all the angry little bigots running around here. Wow! Will one of you prove that you're not a bigot? Oh that's right. To you there's no such thing... Of course!
I thought I proved I'm not a bigot when I banged your mom.
At least with respect to inter-species relationships, anyways.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 23, 2011 01:11 PM (SY2Kh)
Where in the bible does it say how to conduct a wedding?
Wedding at Cana. Bad wine first, good stuff second to really get likkered up.
Oh, who cares about the troll. Let him froth over in the corner somewhere.
Posted by: s'moron at February 23, 2011 01:11 PM (UaxA0)
There are TONS of things in the bible about the union of man and woman and two becoming one and all that. As for the actual conducting of a wedding, that's been up to interpretation for centuries.
Posted by: © Sponge at February 23, 2011 05:04 PM (UK9cE)
That's my point. In fact, the bible doesn't even say how a marriage becomes official. Marriage isn't an invention of St. Paul or even Abraham, it's the natural course of human interaction.
Posted by: AmishDude at February 23, 2011 01:11 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Dar al-Harb at February 23, 2011 05:10 PM (GTbGH)
It did tickle my fancy at the time.
Posted by: Barack Obama at February 23, 2011 01:11 PM (7BU4a)
Posted by: George Orwell at February 23, 2011 01:12 PM (+vkOU)
There is a big difference between a society that says that homosexuality is not optimal, but that homosexuals should be treated with kindness and fairness and a society where homosexuality is treated as no different than heterosexuality and existing social institutions are adjusted for homosexuals.
Posted by: Paper at February 23, 2011 01:12 PM (VoSja)
We don't have marriage so that women (or men) can wear a dress one day in their life so that they can feel pretty.
So true sir. We have have marriage so women can stop giving blowjobs.
Posted by: Fish the Impaler at February 23, 2011 01:13 PM (ZHsNw)
Posted by: FlaviusJulius at February 23, 2011 01:13 PM (SJ6/3)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 23, 2011 01:13 PM (OW0nw)
Posted by: tcn at February 23, 2011 01:13 PM (DjPot)
I like to think that if I had a man-wife I would expect him to be just as adept with a crock pot and child rearing as my lady-wife.
Posted by: Ted Kennedy's Gristle Encased Head at February 23, 2011 01:13 PM (+lsX1)
Posted by: dagny at February 23, 2011 05:11 PM (In1re)
Sweetie, the word you are looking for is FABULOUS!
Posted by: Barack Obama at February 23, 2011 01:13 PM (7BU4a)
Posted by: George Orwell at February 23, 2011 01:13 PM (+vkOU)
Posted by: maddogg at February 23, 2011 01:13 PM (OlN4e)
From what I recall, Ancient Greece practiced Pedophilia, not homosexuality.
So the islamist are sorta Hellenistic? That must make them feel classical.
Posted by: dagny at February 23, 2011 01:13 PM (In1re)
Posted by: Jimmy-Joe at February 23, 2011 04:42 PM (vUdSP)
Marriage is not a private act. It has all sorts of public consequences. And I have it on good authority that 10% of Bummblefuck, Alabama is Gay.
Posted by: Quilly Mammoth at February 23, 2011 01:13 PM (uloio)
Posted by: DCBrent at February 23, 2011 01:14 PM (ur9wY)
Posted by: joncelli at February 23, 2011 01:14 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Tigtog at February 23, 2011 01:14 PM (Q5+Og)
Also, this may be an unpopular view (maybe not here), but the growing acceptance of homosexuality will lead to a higher prevalence of homosexuality. I think that a society of 15% gay people is not as socially desirable as a society of 5% gay people.
I don't think homosexuality should be made illegal or that gays should be treated poorly, but moral hierarchy has its place in general social values.
Posted by: Paper at February 23, 2011 05:02 PM (VoSja)
Just for reference, When the nation was founded, the laws regarded homosexuality as an offense punishable by death. (The bible says "kill them." ) Thomas Jefferson introduced legislation to change the punishment to "Castration." because he thought it was more human and appropriate.
Prior to 1973, people were institutionalized in asylums if it were found out they were homosexual.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 23, 2011 01:15 PM (/G5LI)
Posted by: George Orwell at February 23, 2011 01:15 PM (+vkOU)
Posted by: Sharkman at February 23, 2011 01:15 PM (sqNU7)
Posted by: Paper at February 23, 2011 01:15 PM (VoSja)
From what I recall, Ancient Greece
practiced Pedophilia, not homosexuality.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 23, 2011 05:08 PM (/G5LI)
The two are not mutually exclusive. Some Muslims have the same sort of thing in their culture.
And it wasn't just men, Sappho's poems talked about the, uh, charms of young girls.
Posted by: AmishDude at February 23, 2011 01:15 PM (T0NGe)
The latest promise is that churches won't have to perform such services? I'll file that with "Romer v. Evans won't lead to claims that gay marriage is a consitutitonal right" and "DOMA makes it unnecessary to seek an amendment blocking gay marriage."
Posted by: ace at February 23, 2011 04:57 PM (nj1bB)
That's the issue with the "gay agenda" ace. It exists, but its not actually some secret conspiracy fear-mongering of turning little boys gay or whatever. Its actually the Liberal Agenda, and utilization of the homosexual community is a path they think that can be exploited. It is to attack traditional institutions in this country, like the churches. Yeah yeah they are inserting legislation in or "they don't care about making churches performing the 'marriages'" so we're supposed to accept it as good enough and say fine. You know until someone decides to sue a church and a liberal judge goes along with it. And anyone want to bet that liberals wouldn't just Love to strip churches of tax exempt status making it harder for them to function and thus reduce their influence in society?
And I think now we can cue some people talking about how liberals were able to force churches out of running adoption agencies.
Posted by: buzzion at February 23, 2011 01:16 PM (oVQFe)
That's a vile slander put about by Lickskittle Al!
Posted by: Bumblefuck Ala at February 23, 2011 01:16 PM (GTbGH)
So true sir. We have have marriage so women can stop giving blowjobs without getting jewelry.
FIFY
Posted by: dagny at February 23, 2011 01:16 PM (In1re)
Posted by: FlaviusJulius at February 23, 2011 01:16 PM (SJ6/3)
Posted by: George Orwell at February 23, 2011 05:12 PM (+vkOU)
Question: What do we call the new body of water formed by that? The Gulf of Nevada or Arizona Bay?
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 23, 2011 01:16 PM (bxvFd)
Prior to 1973, people were institutionalized in asylums if it were found out they were homosexual.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 23, 2011 05:15 PM (/G5LI)
Today they move to Hollywood or San Francisco and practice acting like girls.
Posted by: Fish the Impaler at February 23, 2011 01:17 PM (ZHsNw)
Let's talk about what's truly important. The number of attractive young(ish)-looking men that Obama surrounds himself with.
Reggie Love
Kal Penn
Rahm (a bit older, but a ballet dancer!)
the new WH Press Boy Toy
who else?
Not to mention Frank Davis
or his Paki bum-buddy from college.
Or his mannish looking "wife" (beard)
Wow, he's gonna need to bring V E R A B A K E R out of mothballs soon.
Posted by: s'moron at February 23, 2011 01:17 PM (UaxA0)
Posted by: Democrats and Unions and MFM, Oh my! at February 23, 2011 01:17 PM (swuwV)
And it wasn't just men, Sappho's poems talked about the, uh, charms of young girls.
Posted by: AmishDude at February 23, 2011 05:15 PM (T0NGe)
She was a cunning linguist.
Posted by: Some Antiquarian at February 23, 2011 01:17 PM (7BU4a)
Posted by: HeatherRadish at February 23, 2011 05:11 PM (nAOMZ)
Used to happen all.the.time.
Posted by: AmishDude at February 23, 2011 01:17 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Wordsworthless at February 23, 2011 01:17 PM (xs5wK)
Well we can't according to you. Anyone who believes marriage is an institution for promoting strong families in procreating couples is a bigot by definition according to you.
You of course would say, "We need to include relationship type ABC"
And I say well if that one why not ACC ABB ACW AGH ATJ AKL?
You call me crazy and a bigot.
But by your own standard you yourself are bigoted against other relationships YOU don't think are marriage. And there are so many wonderful endearing friendships and partnerships that humans can have. Why not recognize them all? Every last one of them?
Posted by: MīcÞeMūs at February 23, 2011 01:18 PM (0q2P7)
Yet here you are defending your DOMA, using the government to invade the private lives of people you don't know [...]
Posted by: Jimmy-Joe at February 23, 2011 04:42 PM (vUdSP)
Like ObamaCare? The TSA (now with unionization!)? Janet Napolitano?
Posted by: Honey Badger at February 23, 2011 01:18 PM (gH+Hj)
Posted by: George Orwell at February 23, 2011 05:12 PM (+vkOU)
I'm on that. It worked for Guam.
Posted by: Hank Johnson at February 23, 2011 01:18 PM (wOGfT)
M to F is de-bone-ified, actually. *giggle*
defending decent people I know from bigots like you.
Shit, son, I'm old enough to remember when gay activists mocked and derided "marriage" as something only brainwashed loser breeders did, because they were too stupid and enlightened to conduct their sexual relationships without a government seal of approvement.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at February 23, 2011 01:18 PM (nAOMZ)
Thank you for your honesty, Jeff.
Angry, White. Yep. Got it.
Posted by: Jimmy-Joe at February 23, 2011 01:18 PM (vUdSP)
Posted by: FlaviusJulius at February 23, 2011 01:19 PM (SJ6/3)
Posted by: dagny at February 23, 2011 01:19 PM (In1re)
The majority of homosexuals before 1973 were not kept in asylums. Practically what it meant was that before 1973 psychologists could practice in a way that attempted to 'rid' the patient of homosexual desires. The aftermath of the change is that those who have 'pre-1973' beliefs on homosexuality are outside of the mainstream in the discipline, hence the creation of 'ex-gay' social and psychological groups.
Posted by: Paper at February 23, 2011 01:19 PM (VoSja)
Got a link? Where a federal official seriously came out and said, "No, you can't pledge to live your lives together?"
Posted by: HeatherRadish at February 23, 2011 01:20 PM (nAOMZ)
Posted by: Bumblefuck Chamber of Commerce at February 23, 2011 01:20 PM (VXBR1)
Posted by: Soothsayer at February 23, 2011 01:20 PM (uFokq)
There is a big difference between a society that says that homosexuality is not optimal, but that homosexuals should be treated with kindness and fairness and a society where homosexuality is treated as no different than heterosexuality and existing social institutions are adjusted for homosexuals.
Nice try. I guess it would fly for people who listen to NPR.
Posted by: Soona at February 23, 2011 01:20 PM (hypVB)
If you are speaking of the Spartans that would be incorrect. I think Janet Morris' concept of "bonded pairs" is historically accurate. Though her's is based on Sacred Band of Thebes (BTW: Morris has a new Stepsons novel out for you Thieves' World Fans). Though to be fair not all of the Stepsons are paired homosexual lovers, many are comrades(your best friend goes to Iraq with you).
Posted by: Quilly Mammoth at February 23, 2011 01:20 PM (uloio)
Posted by: buzzsawmonkey at February 23, 2011 01:21 PM (KB8P5)
Posted by: Tigtog at February 23, 2011 01:21 PM (Q5+Og)
Posted by: joncelli at February 23, 2011 01:21 PM (RD7QR)
Four. You're welcome.
Posted by: Muhammed at February 23, 2011 01:21 PM (nAOMZ)
Yet here you are defending your DOMA, using the government to invade the private lives of people you don't know [...]
Posted by: Jimmy-Joe at February 23, 2011 04:42 PM (vUdSP)
I'm pretty sure the commerce clause lets the government determine if you get get married or not now. Even more so then whether or not you take your Soma.
So, good job liberals judges.
Posted by: 18-1 at February 23, 2011 01:22 PM (7BU4a)
Posted by: can't let go of old memes at February 23, 2011 01:23 PM (GTbGH)
a new Master Race like an angry, white, dick-flavored Pez dispenser from your worst Republican nightmare.
That is so hot
Posted by: dagny at February 23, 2011 01:23 PM (In1re)
That's what it is.
Posted by: Jimmy-Joe at February 23, 2011 05:11 PM (vUdSP)
Aw, do they need defending by big, strong you. Mr. Tough Guy needs to protect the weak little incompetent idiots, does he? They aren't smart enough to defend themselves, you have to do it for them? How noble of you! How much better you are than them! Why, you can look down upon them from your lofty perch up there, Mr. Big Man.
Don't you just feel all nice and smug?
Posted by: AmishDude at February 23, 2011 01:23 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: buzzsawmonkey at February 23, 2011 01:24 PM (KB8P5)
Posted by: FlaviusJulius at February 23, 2011 01:24 PM (SJ6/3)
Posted by: Tigtog at February 23, 2011 01:25 PM (Q5+Og)
The two are not mutually exclusive. Some Muslims have the same sort of thing in their culture.
And it wasn't just men, Sappho's poems talked about the, uh, charms of young girls.
Posted by: AmishDude at February 23, 2011 05:15 PM (T0NGe)
I've argued this issue before, and invariably someone brings up "Greece." Most of them go "Eeewwww." when they find out the truth.
In my experience, Lesbians and Male Homosexuals are completely different in all sorts of ways. For one, there are far fewer Lesbians than Male homosexuals, as a percentage of the population. Most of them are temporary lesbians, and will jump at a man when they find the right one. (remember Ann Heche?)
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 23, 2011 01:25 PM (/G5LI)
(breaks open ampoule)
...hufffff....
...hufffff....
...grapple, grapple, grapple, grapple...
...squirt...
Posted by: Grappler in Chief at February 23, 2011 01:25 PM (w41GQ)
Posted by: Honey Badger at February 23, 2011 01:25 PM (zAZNI)
Cool. So, now I can marry three women at the same time? Because I love them all!
Four. You're welcome.
PIKER!!11111!!
Posted by: Joseph Smith at February 23, 2011 01:25 PM (ihSHD)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at February 23, 2011 01:26 PM (eOXTH)
Posted by: maddogg at February 23, 2011 01:26 PM (OlN4e)
Four. You're welcome.
PIKER!!11111!!
Posted by: Joseph Smith at February 23, 2011 05:25 PM (ihSHD)
Amateurs!
Posted by: King Solomon at February 23, 2011 01:26 PM (ihSHD)
The tax angle is the correct one regarding SSM and churches.
Like the political ad case back in 1992, churches will be allowed to be tax exempt only if they adhere to a "facially neutral" "commitment ceremony" policy.
Toe the PC gov't line, or lose tax exemption. After all, tax exemption is a "privilege"
Posted by: s'moron at February 23, 2011 01:27 PM (UaxA0)
That's slightly different. Did anyone know or care who Anne Heche was before she was revealed as Ellen's SO?
Even SNL of all places goofed on how transparent this was at the time.
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 23, 2011 01:27 PM (bxvFd)
Posted by: buzzsawmonkey at February 23, 2011 01:28 PM (KB8P5)
Posted by: AmishDude at February 23, 2011 05:23 PM (T0NGe)
Why hello, Noble Savage! I must take up your cause and fight for you, who are obviously too weak to do so yourselves!
Pip, pip, old chaps. Hide beneath my sheltering skirts and tremble at my might, yes?
Posted by: Mr. Big Man at February 23, 2011 01:28 PM (gH+Hj)
Posted by: Soothsayer at February 23, 2011 01:28 PM (uFokq)
Posted by: HeatherRadish at February 23, 2011 05:18 PM (nAOMZ)
And they got offended if you suggested (like Soap did) that homosexuals really wanted sex-change operations. I suppose it meant that homosexuality was insufficient. Now, Chaz (formerly Chastity) Bono had a sex change and that was a step forward for gay rights.
Or something. It's hard to keep it all coherent.
Got a link? Where a federal official seriously came out and said, "No, you can't pledge to live your lives together?"
Posted by: HeatherRadish at February 23, 2011 05:20 PM (nAOMZ)
No, I meant that commitment ceremonies used to happen all the time. And that's the name they used, "Commitment ceremonies."
Posted by: AmishDude at February 23, 2011 01:28 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: nevergiveup at February 23, 2011 01:29 PM (7wmOW)
244 Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 23, 2011 05:25 PM (/G5LI)
I can't even figure out what lesbians even accomplish and I don't want to know. Maybe the unobviousness is a problem?
Posted by: dagny at February 23, 2011 01:29 PM (In1re)
Posted by: Tigtog at February 23, 2011 05:25 PM (Q5+Og)
I think he smokes 2 different varieties. But with either one you pick you can't deny that he loves crack.
Posted by: buzzion at February 23, 2011 01:29 PM (oVQFe)
In my experience, Lesbians and
Male Homosexuals are completely different in all sorts of ways. For one,
there are far fewer Lesbians than Male homosexuals, as a percentage of
the population. Most of them are temporary lesbians, and will jump at a
man when they find the right one. (remember Ann Heche?)
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 23, 2011 05:25 PM (/G5LI)
Another way they're different: male homosexuals are icky, female ones are enchanting.
Oh, and, homosexuality is not a choice, butthole. Just ask any of the lesbian divorced mothers in the Portland roller derby league.
Posted by: FUBAR at February 23, 2011 01:29 PM (McG46)
I've heard people say that all women become bi-sexual after a couple of drinks.
It's a bit of humorous exageration, but there is a grain of truth to it.
Women seem to be alot more fluid in their sexuality.
Why? I have no idea.
Posted by: ed at February 23, 2011 01:29 PM (Y2WVW)
Posted by: Tigtog at February 23, 2011 01:29 PM (Q5+Og)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 23, 2011 01:30 PM (+61wI)
Like ObamaCare? The TSA (now with unionization!)? Janet Napolitano?
But a good little dupe like "Jimmy-Joe" is fine with "progressive" tyranny, you see.
He believes he has the "right" to put anything in his mouth or up his rectum without consequence, and the "right" to tax you to pay for his care when said inevitable consequences occur.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at February 23, 2011 01:30 PM (ujg0T)
Posted by: Walter Mitty, Grappler in Chief at February 23, 2011 01:31 PM (w41GQ)
Posted by: dagny at February 23, 2011 01:31 PM (In1re)
Women seem to be alot more fluid in their sexuality.
Why? I have no idea.
Posted by: ed at February 23, 2011 05:29 PM (Y2WVW)
Womens' bodies are works of art. Mens' bodies are functional. Also, no anuses are involved in lesbian sex.
Posted by: FUBAR at February 23, 2011 01:31 PM (McG46)
The notoriously liberal US Conference of Catholic Bishops
Has actually rebuffed O for the whole DOMA abandonment.
I guess they found their.......um.....moral fortitude.
Posted by: MīcÞeMūs at February 23, 2011 01:32 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: joeindc44 at February 23, 2011 01:32 PM (QxSug)
"In my experience, Lesbians and Male Homosexuals are completely different in all sorts of ways. For one, there are far fewer Lesbians than Male homosexuals, as a percentage of the population. Most of them are temporary lesbians, and will jump at a man when they find the right one. (remember Ann Heche?)"
Wrong. Check out a lesbo bar and all you will find is ugly, angry chicks wearing plaid. A few look to be growing a moustache. Male gay bars are a lot more fun given that its Never Never Land and they never have to grow up. Lesbo did grow up only to discover that they can only get laid by another ugly chick. Sad really.
Posted by: Tigtog at February 23, 2011 01:33 PM (Q5+Og)
Better get busy out-breeding me, Jimmy-Joe.
Because while you've been occupied getting your shit pushed in, I've been punching out a new Master Race like an angry, white, dick-flavored Pez dispenser from your worst Republican nightmare.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 23, 2011 05:13 PM (OW0nw
I was late getting to the site today, and after reading through some of the threads I was getting ever more pissed off. But, this, this made it all bettter. Best damn comment to a frothing, deranged, fuckstick I've read in a long time.
Thanks, EoJ, you've saved my day!
Posted by: Steph at February 23, 2011 01:33 PM (AkdC5)
True of Rome as well. The emperors having male lovers was considered decadent but within bounds. Being the "catcher" was unacceptable, however.
Posted by: AmishDude at February 23, 2011 01:34 PM (T0NGe)
This is about breaking the churches. The libcommiemarxistislamists don't like them.
Some churches. Can't wait to see what happens the first time someone tries to sue to hold a same-sex marriage in a mosque, except I'm pretty sure that will never happen.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at February 23, 2011 01:34 PM (nAOMZ)
Posted by: FlaviusJulius at February 23, 2011 01:34 PM (SJ6/3)
Posted by: ed at February 23, 2011 05:29 PM (Y2WVW)
Sorry ed but that's some male "watching" fantasy or a tale to make some guy hot. I find the whole idea quite disgusting, nauseating, and any suggestion of that would make me furious. Now, I will make retching sounds to get my point across. In fact, I abjure the hollywood idol type like Leonardo Decaprio and the like. Way too pretty. Barf.
Posted by: dagny at February 23, 2011 01:34 PM (In1re)
Posted by: Soothsayer at February 23, 2011 01:35 PM (uFokq)
I suspect that the sum of lesbians and bisexual women would equal the number of gay and bisexual men, but that the distributions are different. There are more bisexual women, and fewer lesbians, while there are more gay men, but fewer bisexual men.
Posted by: Alex at February 23, 2011 01:35 PM (x40U+)
He believes he has the "right" to put anything in his mouth or up his rectum without consequence, and the "right" to tax you to pay for his care when said inevitable consequences occur.
You think it could go on like this forever? Living like this with no consequences? There are always consequences!
Posted by: Roland at February 23, 2011 01:35 PM (gH+Hj)
The notoriously liberal US Conference of Catholic Bishops
Has actually rebuffed O for the whole DOMA abandonment.
I guess they found their.......um.....moral fortitude.
That doesn't surprise me. I figure homosexuality and abortion are the things they will be socially conservative on. Most other issues, you can expect the church to be more liberal on.
Posted by: buzzion at February 23, 2011 01:35 PM (oVQFe)
That would be Daffy's resigned Foreign Minister, IIRC. He claims that the Lockerbie bomber was personally told to do it by Daffy and that's why he pushed so hard to get the guy released from Scottish prison.
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 23, 2011 01:36 PM (bxvFd)
Posted by: dagny at February 23, 2011 05:31 PM (In1re)
But Obama's a Christian. He does all sorts of ultra-Christian things. I don't know what those people do, of course, but he does them.
Posted by: David Gregory at February 23, 2011 01:36 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Rocks at February 23, 2011 01:36 PM (th0op)
Posted by: maddogg at February 23, 2011 01:36 PM (OlN4e)
When i read an article about Andy and his concubine i thought to myself 'doesn't he think about his kids at all?" Odd that, they jump on him yet they allow nanny p to go untouched.
All these Catholics in name only should be made to follow the rules or leave, plain and simple really.
pc is killing this country.
Posted by: curious at February 23, 2011 01:36 PM (p302b)
Posted by: buzzsawmonkey at February 23, 2011 05:24 PM (KB8P5)
Cue redux of WI. The tyrants and their minions are waiting. The barbarians have breached the gates.
Posted by: Soona at February 23, 2011 01:36 PM (hypVB)
Posted by: nevergiveup at February 23, 2011 01:36 PM (7wmOW)
The majority of homosexuals before 1973 were not kept in asylums. Practically what it meant was that before 1973 psychologists could practice in a way that attempted to 'rid' the patient of homosexual desires. The aftermath of the change is that those who have 'pre-1973' beliefs on homosexuality are outside of the mainstream in the discipline, hence the creation of 'ex-gay' social and psychological groups.
Posted by: Paper at February 23, 2011 05:19 PM (VoSja)
Maybe so, but an angry horde of Queers showing up at the American Psychiatric Association in 1973 threatening to do bodily violence to the assembled Psychiatrists unless they removed Homosexuality from the list of Mental disorders, Might have something to do with it.
For those of you who are not aware of it, Look up the "Cambridge Club." It was a club of Homosexuals who committed treason against their country.
Also (Goodwin Alert!) The NAtionalsoZIalistische Deutche Arbeiterparte started as a Homosexual club. I first read this in "The Rise and fall of the Third Reich" by William L. Shirer. (A Very famous book on the subject.) It is also covered extensively in a book called "the Pink Swastika."
While we're at it, John Maynard Keynes (of Keynisian Economics) was also queer.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 23, 2011 01:36 PM (/G5LI)
IT's A TRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP!!!!!!
ME on fire
unemployment is off the charts
real pirates are killing americans (wars used to start about this)
Gasoline prices are going to be fracking scary in a few months
housing is doing nothing
union gooons marching with the hey, ho
I know, lets play the homo card........
(the race card is wore out, credit limit is maxed.....)
Posted by: Jake_in_Idaho at February 23, 2011 01:37 PM (vrDK+)
Posted by: nostradamus' 401k at February 23, 2011 01:37 PM (GTbGH)
Posted by: FlaviusJulius at February 23, 2011 05:22 PM (SJ6/3)
Not at the rapid rate it did in the early 80's...but yes. IIRC Four new novels in the last five years. Part of the beauty of "shared worlds" is that you own your character. Asprin was wanting to bring it back in the early oughts but sadly passed away before it could be. His ex-wife, Lynn Abbey, wrote "Sanctuary" as a single novel and there were two more anthologies: "Turning Points" and "Enemies of Fortune".
I had a hell of a good time with Asprin at a Star Trek Convention that was _way_ oversold. He was KDC and I was on leave and doing security for a child actor that was famous at the time. Wow, thirty years sure passes quick.
Posted by: Quilly Mammoth at February 23, 2011 01:37 PM (uloio)
But I have no right to buy a lightbulb that doesn't exacerbate my migraines. O_O
Posted by: HeatherRadish at February 23, 2011 01:38 PM (nAOMZ)
Posted by: Ben at February 23, 2011 01:38 PM (wuv1c)
Oh, that's just because in a lesbian relationship, the whole notion is blurred of who the would be the naggee and who would be the nagger.
And, like Randy Marsh, I denounce myself.
Posted by: AmishDude at February 23, 2011 01:38 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Soothsayer at February 23, 2011 01:38 PM (uFokq)
Posted by: runningrn at February 23, 2011 01:38 PM (ihSHD)
Posted by: buzzsawmonkey at February 23, 2011 01:39 PM (KB8P5)
Better get busy out-breeding me, Jimmy-Joe.
Because while you've been occupied getting your shit pushed in, I've been punching out a new Master Race like an angry, white, dick-flavored Pez dispenser from your worst Republican nightmare.
clap...clap...clap...well done, sir!
Posted by: beedubya at February 23, 2011 01:39 PM (AnTyA)
Better get busy out-breeding me, Jimmy-Joe.
Because while you've been occupied getting your shit pushed in, I've been punching out a new Master Race like an angry, white, dick-flavored Pez dispenser from your worst Republican nightmare.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 23, 2011 05:13 PM (OW0nw)
Posted by: FUBAR at February 23, 2011 01:39 PM (McG46)
Posted by: Ben at February 23, 2011 05:38 PM (wuv1c)
Will you be wearing "The Shirt" to bed on your honeymoon?
Posted by: runningrn at February 23, 2011 01:40 PM (ihSHD)
Also (Goodwin Alert!) The NAtionalsoZIalistische Deutche Arbeiterparte started as a Homosexual club. I first read this in "The Rise and fall of the Third Reich" by William L. Shirer. (A Very famous book on the subject.) It is also covered extensively in a book called "the Pink Swastika."
There was a power struggle between Adolf Hitler and Ernst Roehm for contriol of the Party. Nazi official persecution of homosexuals followed "The Night Of The Long Knives" in 1934, because it was a good excuse for Hitler to snuff out Roehm, who was quite gay, and many of his followers.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at February 23, 2011 01:41 PM (ujg0T)
Marriage? Fine. But first, you will blow me.
Posted by: AoSHQ at February 23, 2011 01:41 PM (GTbGH)
When i read an article about Andy and his concubine i thought to myself 'doesn't he think about his kids at all?" Odd that, they jump on him yet they allow nanny p to go untouched.
Posted by: curious at February 23, 2011 05:36 PM (p302b) Isn't Cuomo living with his "partner," Sandra Lee? What's with the partner stuff? It's not like they are both girls (or boys), right? Is that just another pc term because the mfm don't like to say "girlfriend" when it relates to a female?
Posted by: Almosht Homemade at February 23, 2011 01:41 PM (gH+Hj)
And once the gays outlived their usefulness, it was off to Dachau with 'em. Not that I'm comparing Toonces to any other specifici totalitarian or anything.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at February 23, 2011 01:42 PM (nAOMZ)
Posted by: Soothsayer at February 23, 2011 01:42 PM (uFokq)
Congressman Jerrold Nadler (D Hutt Space), the senior Democrat on the House Constitution Subcommittee, said he plans to introduce legislation called the “Respect for Marriage Act” to repeal the Defense of Marriage Act.
Nadler said his legislation would “ensure that committed, loving couples can rely upon the legal responsibilities and security that come with the time-honored tradition of marriage.”
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 23, 2011 01:42 PM (bOKG+)
Wow, Obama has exactly the same position while espousing the same crap as GOProud. Obama is a conservative!
Does GOProud favor illegal alien amnesty? "Stimulus" welfare spending?
Posted by: Curmudgeon at February 23, 2011 01:43 PM (ujg0T)
Wrong.
Check out a lesbo bar and all you will find is ugly, angry chicks
wearing plaid. A few look to be growing a moustache. Male gay bars are a
lot more fun given that its Never Never Land and they never have to
grow up. Lesbo did grow up only to discover that they can only get laid
by another ugly chick. Sad really.
Posted by: Tigtog at February 23, 2011 05:33 PM (Q5+Og)
That's my experience as well. Most lesbians are ugly. Not all, but most are, and most have also come out of unsatisfying Heterosexual relationships.
It has also been my experience that most women are "bi-friendly." I know for a fact that all strippers are. (eventually.)
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 23, 2011 01:43 PM (/G5LI)
There was a power struggle between Adolf Hitler and Ernst Roehm for contriol of the Party. Nazi official persecution of homosexuals followed "The Night Of The Long Knives" in 1934, because it was a good excuse for Hitler to snuff out Roehm, who was quite gay, and many of his followers
I vas for Teh Gays before I vas against Teh Gays...
Posted by: Adolph Hitler Kerry at February 23, 2011 01:43 PM (ihSHD)
Posted by: Soothsayer at February 23, 2011 01:43 PM (uFokq)
I've heard people say that all women become bi-sexual after a couple of drinks.
It's a bit of humorous exageration, but there is a grain of truth to it.
Women seem to be alot more fluid in their sexuality.
Why? I have no idea.
A friend of mine used to say that it was law of threesomes that one girl would always go down on the other, even if they were both straight.
I would imagine that it provides benefits for societies where men are in short supply. Polygamous marriages with one man and multiple women are less likely to involve drama if the women develop attachments to each other as well.
Conversely, homosexuality benefits the tribe by removing competition for mates while simultaneously creating tighter bonds between men in the community.
Posted by: Alex at February 23, 2011 01:43 PM (x40U+)
Posted by: CAC at February 23, 2011 01:44 PM (lV4Fs)
Posted by: Bieber must die, for harvest at February 23, 2011 01:44 PM (F/4zf)
Posted by: dagny at February 23, 2011 05:31 PM (In1re)
This ^^^
Libs don't give a shit about gay rights. Gays are just another minority voice that the party of evil has hijacked in order to make the church irrelevant.
And they're doing a bang-up job at it, as well.
Posted by: ErikW at February 23, 2011 01:44 PM (H+suL)
Posted by: maddogg at February 23, 2011 01:44 PM (OlN4e)
Posted by: nerdygirl at February 23, 2011 01:45 PM (P3uKs)
IIRC, It's stolen from the old term Gay Amish, those who have left the order for the english world.
Posted by: toby928™ at February 23, 2011 01:45 PM (GTbGH)
Posted by: Soothsayer at February 23, 2011 05:42 PM (uFokq)
Don't know, but if they were smart, they'd call themselves "social conservatives."
Posted by: FUBAR at February 23, 2011 01:45 PM (McG46)
Posted by: Alex at February 23, 2011 05:35 PM (x40U+)
When I am talking about Lesbians, I am referring to those who really do prefer females over males. Most lesbians in my experience actually WANT guys, but for reasons of ugliness or bitchiness, they can't have one. The Disgruntled Heterosexual women are pretty common.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 23, 2011 01:46 PM (/G5LI)
"There was a power struggle between Adolf Hitler and Ernst Roehm for contriol of the Party. Nazi official persecution of homosexuals followed "The Night Of The Long Knives" in 1934, because it was a good excuse for Hitler to snuff out Roehm, who was quite gay, and many of his followers."
The SA was as gay as a 3 dollar bill. Nothing says feral brutality than a gang of homo's who get paid to drink and beat up other people. Sort of like today's gay movement. Oh yeah, they did have snappy uniforms. The homo issue of the SA was the big reason it was dumped and the SS was formed.
Posted by: Tigtog at February 23, 2011 01:47 PM (Q5+Og)
Two men are less likely to start kissing when someone points a camera at them.
Posted by: sifty at February 23, 2011 01:47 PM (cK4d/)
Feinstein is doing this (1) because she can and (2) to cover for Harry Reid while Boehner temporarily has him pinned. "Hey, look, shiny thing!" But it isn't going to pass; too many social conservatives now.
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at February 23, 2011 01:47 PM (yfJ6g)
Good point. Without a return to fiscal sanity, this whole discussion becomes academic in a few years.
/Although this will make for good discussion amongst the historians and archeologists combing through the ruins of what was known as America.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at February 23, 2011 01:48 PM (c0A3e)
who was the genius who appropriated 'gay' as a euphemism for homosexual, and when did he do it?
When I was in college, our Gay Lesbian Student Union had "wear blue jeans on Friday to support Gays and Lesbians on campus." We were all like--WTF--we're college students all we wear are blue jeans. People went out to the University Bookstore and bought sweatpants just so they could wear them on Fridays. The GLSU also had these signs all over campus "Gay still means happy". Could have fooled me. Almost all the lesbians I've worked with are mean, unpleasant butches with a big chip on their shoulders. (There are a lot of lesbonic nurses in the o.r.) I love my gay male co-workers, however--so much more fun to work with, and they all have wonderful, self-deprecating senses of humor!
Posted by: runningrn at February 23, 2011 01:48 PM (ihSHD)
Posted by: Soothsayer at February 23, 2011 01:48 PM (uFokq)
At least not open mouthed.
Posted by: toby928™ at February 23, 2011 01:49 PM (GTbGH)
Believe me now? Where's my fucking wagyu?
Posted by: Preznit Sand Trap at February 23, 2011 01:49 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: FlaviusJulius at February 23, 2011 01:51 PM (SJ6/3)
Posted by: nerdygirl at February 23, 2011 01:51 PM (P3uKs)
What anyone sees in ball-scratching hairy-assed men remains a blessed mystery.
Posted by: toby928™ at February 23, 2011 01:51 PM (GTbGH)
Posted by: Soothsayer at February 23, 2011 01:51 PM (uFokq)
Stay out of Minneapolis during Pride Month.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at February 23, 2011 01:51 PM (nAOMZ)
Posted by: maddogg at February 23, 2011 01:51 PM (OlN4e)
Posted by: CAC at February 23, 2011 01:51 PM (lV4Fs)
I thought it was Fred Flintstone and his gay old time.
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at February 23, 2011 01:51 PM (xdHzq)
Conversely, homosexuality benefits the tribe by removing competition for mates while simultaneously creating tighter bonds between men in the community.
Which will become nonexistent after a few trips to the toilet stalls.
Posted by: Soona at February 23, 2011 01:52 PM (hypVB)
Posted by: Soothsayer at February 23, 2011 01:52 PM (uFokq)
Posted by: buzzsawmonkey at February 23, 2011 01:53 PM (KB8P5)
Posted by: toby928™ at February 23, 2011 05:51 PM (GTbGH)
And I hope it stays that way.
Posted by: ErikW at February 23, 2011 01:53 PM (H+suL)
When I was in college, our Gay Lesbian Student Union had "wear blue jeans on Friday to support Gays and Lesbians on campus." We were all like--WTF--we're college students all we wear are blue jeans. People went out to the University Bookstore and bought sweatpants just so they could wear them on Fridays. The GLSU also had these signs all over campus "Gay still means happy". Could have fooled me. Almost all the lesbians I've worked with are mean, unpleasant butches with a big chip on their shoulders. (There are a lot of lesbonic nurses in the o.r.) I love my gay male co-workers, however--so much more fun to work with, and they all have wonderful, self-deprecating senses of humor!
Posted by: runningrn at February 23, 2011 05:48 PM (ihSHD)
Years ago I read that the Number one cause of death among male homosexuals is suicide. They are not really "gay" at all.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 23, 2011 01:53 PM (/G5LI)
Posted by: laceyunderalls at February 23, 2011 01:53 PM (pLTLS)
I know. My point was that I suspect most 'lesbians' are actually bisexual, and that actual lesbians are rare, while the reverse is true for men: bisexuals are rare while homosexuals are more common.
Posted by: Alex at February 23, 2011 01:53 PM (x40U+)
"It has also been my experience that most women are "bi-friendly." I know for a fact that all strippers are. (eventually.)"
Dude, it has been my experience that strippers will do and say anything for money. After they milk you for your cash they go home to the trailer and watch TV with the old man (if he is around) and the kids (they are always around). Using strippers as a polling source (no pun intended) is right up there with using male prisoners as representative group for sexuality studies.
Posted by: Tigtog at February 23, 2011 01:53 PM (Q5+Og)
Shoosh, when did we allow vaginaphobes on this blog? I hate men who hate pussy. There is something "not right" about that.
Be careful. Kratos may be behind you.
Posted by: AoSHQ's worst commenter, DarkLord© at February 23, 2011 01:54 PM (GBXon)
Stay out of Minneapolis during Pride Month.
And avoid the Folsom Street Fair in San Fransisco. Thanks Zombie, for permanently scarring my fragile mental psyche.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at February 23, 2011 01:54 PM (c0A3e)
My understanding is that men who prefer men with secondary sexual characteristics (facial hair, body hair, deep voice, etc) are a small fraction of the 'gay community.'
Posted by: HeatherRadish at February 23, 2011 01:54 PM (nAOMZ)
Posted by: Bo the Portuguese Water Dog at February 23, 2011 01:55 PM (gH+Hj)
Years ago I read that the Number one cause of death among male homosexuals is suicide.
Well and now in HS hetero's are forced to sit through some BS tolerance class on bullying bc Jimmy wants to be a Jenny.
States are passing anti-bullying laws.
Christ Christie I'ma lookin' at you here, buddy.
Posted by: laceyunderalls at February 23, 2011 01:55 PM (pLTLS)
Posted by: Soothsayer at February 23, 2011 01:55 PM (uFokq)
or
b) That legislature of same state couldn't force it on the other 49 via whatever damn provision of law that shit was ( I fergit, I'm just a biggit, y'know).
Posted by: nickless at February 23, 2011 01:55 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 23, 2011 01:55 PM (oJKHo)
Be careful. Kratos may be behind you.
Whatever do you mean? 
This thread is getting pretty decadent and ghey.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at February 23, 2011 01:56 PM (c0A3e)
Posted by: Bo the Portuguese Water Dog at February 23, 2011 05:55 PM (gH+Hj)
Bo, did he remember to put the seat back on first?Posted by: Michelle's jar of JIF peanut butter at February 23, 2011 01:56 PM (bxvFd)
Posted by: © Sponge at February 23, 2011 01:57 PM (UK9cE)
Posted by: Soothsayer at February 23, 2011 01:57 PM (uFokq)
States are passing anti-bullying laws.
Christ Christie I'ma lookin' at you here, buddy.
This I can understand. I guess "bullying" is supposed to mean "anti-gay" bullying, but my experience is that the target of most bullying are the fat kids.
Posted by: AmishDude at February 23, 2011 01:58 PM (T0NGe)
Dude, it has been my experience that strippers will do and say anything for money. After they milk you for your cash they go home to the trailer and watch TV with the old man (if he is around) and the kids (they are always around). Using strippers as a polling source (no pun intended) is right up there with using male prisoners as representative group for sexuality studies.
Now strippers I do have experience with, as you do also obviously. When you go into a strip club, you won't get laid but you will get fucked. Took me a couple of years to figger that out as a man in my early 20's.
Posted by: maddogg at February 23, 2011 01:58 PM (OlN4e)
I know. My point was that I suspect most 'lesbians' are actually bisexual, and that actual lesbians are rare, while the reverse is true for men: bisexuals are rare while homosexuals are more common.
Posted by: Alex at February 23, 2011 05:53 PM (x40U+)
That is EXACTLY my point. I believe the incidence of male homosexuality is partly caused by genetic predisposition (too many female hormones in the body) in combination with environmental factors.
Let's face it, the vast MAJORITY of all sexual perverts are men. Probably because their biology drives them so desperately to reproduce. In the case of homosexuals, their impulses just get scrambled somehow. Males are far more susceptible to fetish than are females.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 23, 2011 01:58 PM (/G5LI)
The big question following the Obama administration's announcement that it would not argue in support of the Defense of Marriage Act is whether Congress (or individual members of the House or Senate) would step in to defend the law themselves.
Lee Swislow, executive director of Gay & Lesbian Advocates & Defenders, thinks a member of Congress will get involved somehow.
"We expect there will be a defense coming from Congress," Swislow told TPM in a phone interview.
"We don't totally understand -- it's a process which isn't used very often," Swislow said. "We do know that a defense can come from either or both chambers -- that's pretty much the limit of my knowledge."
Former Bush-era Justice Department official Hans von Spakovsky wrote on the Heritage Foundation's blog that members of Congress "consistent with the law of standing, should seek to intervene in the case or file amicus briefs to assure that DOMA gets the vigorous defense that should be afforded to all federal statutes for which reasonable legal arguments may be offered - and which the President is refusing to provide."
BTW - I dare you to google image search "Lee Swislow". Go on.....
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 23, 2011 01:59 PM (bOKG+)
This thread is getting pretty decadent and ghey.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at February 23, 2011 05:56 PM (c0A3e)
Hi, guy!
Posted by: Andrew Sullivan at February 23, 2011 01:59 PM (hypVB)
Bo, did he remember to put the seat back on first?
Yeah, but it's on backwards.
Posted by: Bo the Portuguese Water Dog at February 23, 2011 05:58 PM (gH+Hj)
*kicks Bo*
Posted by: Barry on the down low at February 23, 2011 01:59 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 23, 2011 05:59 PM (bOKG+)
I hate you.
Posted by: Tami at February 23, 2011 02:00 PM (VuLos)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 23, 2011 05:55 PM (oJKHo)
Excellent! We have full page color pictures, and our letters to the editor section can't be beat.
Of course, I'll need to see proof that you're over the age of 18...
Posted by: Alex at February 23, 2011 02:00 PM (x40U+)
There's a privileged class, and gays want to join it. As a member of the second class, I understand...I'm just sick of listening to the lies about "equality."
Posted by: HeatherRadish at February 23, 2011 02:00 PM (nAOMZ)
Posted by: Tigtog at February 23, 2011 05:53 PM (Q5+Og)
Maybe the strippers are different in your town, but here in this town, they are often on drugs, and they have so many men pawing them that a lot of them really do want to have sex with a woman. I've talked to them socially (not at work, but in their home or motel) and they honestly get turned on by women after awhile.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 23, 2011 02:00 PM (/G5LI)
Years ago I read that the Number one cause of death among male homosexuals is suicide. They are not really "gay" at all.
And when they kill eachother, it's always extremely brutal and violent. There was a Portugese journalist who was castrated and killed in a NYC hotel by his male model boyfriend not that long ago.
Posted by: runningrn at February 23, 2011 02:00 PM (ihSHD)
Posted by: Fritz at February 23, 2011 02:01 PM (/8mBu)
This I can understand.
What? From the man that hates most laws.
This POS law passes muster? Have you even read about this. The crap schools have to put up with to be in compliance with this law.
ps... you suck
I just bullied you.
Off to detention I go.
Posted by: laceyunderalls at February 23, 2011 02:01 PM (pLTLS)
Posted by: CAC at February 23, 2011 02:02 PM (lV4Fs)
How's your son, btw?
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at February 23, 2011 05:59 PM (c0A3e)
Fer cryin' out loud. I said it as a compliment. I didn't follow with a "bless your heart". 
Kid's fine.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 23, 2011 02:02 PM (UOM48)
Why? One wants to stay home and have babies? What's stopping them from both getting jobs?
It's clearly about validation. Nothing more, nothing less. That's why civil unions just wouldn't do.
Posted by: AmishDude at February 23, 2011 02:03 PM (T0NGe)
"Now strippers I do have experience with, as you do also obviously. When you go into a strip club, you won't get laid but you will get fucked. Took me a couple of years to figger that out as a man in my early 20's."
I was able to extend the education period longer. But that is only because I was overseas and the strippers were a lot cheaper. Also, asian strippers are more concerned with total customer satisfaction than American strippers. Are American strippers unionized or something?
Posted by: Tigtog at February 23, 2011 02:03 PM (Q5+Og)
Posted by: Obamanomics at February 23, 2011 02:04 PM (lV4Fs)
States are passing anti-bullying laws.
WA state is currently kicking one around that would make bullying at work a felony--I kid you not! I hope to God it doesn't pass (but I live in Blue-ville, so it probably will). Meanwhile, we too have a big budget deficit and much more important things to worry about.
Posted by: runningrn at February 23, 2011 02:04 PM (ihSHD)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 23, 2011 02:05 PM (oJKHo)
Strip clubs depress me. You watch some loser trying to act like he's a big man, while sliding $1 bills over to some dancer who looks bored out of her mind. You're paying for a cock tease, and if I want that, I'll just date a sorority girl.
Posted by: Alex at February 23, 2011 02:05 PM (x40U+)
Posted by: buzzsawmonkey at February 23, 2011 02:05 PM (KB8P5)
WA state is currently kicking one around that would make bullying at work a felony--I kid you not
I need bullying to be defined for me here.
Because I'm thinking I do it seven times before I eat my morning breakfast.
Posted by: laceyunderalls at February 23, 2011 02:05 PM (pLTLS)
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 23, 2011 05:58 PM (/G5LI)
Care to back that up with some facts?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at February 23, 2011 02:06 PM (LH6ir)
This I can understand.
What? From the man that hates most laws.
No, just the lawyer-government complex. Laws are great. Lawyers exist to get around laws.
Slowly now. I said that most bullying is directed toward fat kids. I said I can understand Chris Christie's stance on the matter.
Now put them together.
Posted by: AmishDude at February 23, 2011 02:06 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 23, 2011 05:59 PM (bOKG+)
OMG. If her hair was shorter, and more gray, and she wasn't smiling, she'd kind of resemble my life coach s-i-l. Seriously.
As a male friend of mine in Atlanta said when she married her wealthy attorney, "Jesus, I'd have bought a Russian bride. Is he blind?"
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 23, 2011 02:06 PM (UOM48)
That's it. We're not discussing it. Pretend they are dealing with their significant other on a subject they don't want to talk about. that'll work
Posted by: curious at February 23, 2011 02:06 PM (p302b)
Because while you've been occupied getting your shit pushed in, I've been punching out a new Master Race like an angry, white, dick-flavored Pez dispenser from your worst Republican nightmare."""
Epic....totally epic. That needs to be inscribed on a column or wall somewhere.
Posted by: Berserker at February 23, 2011 02:06 PM (gWHrG)
And when they kill eachother, it's always extremely brutal and violent. There was a Portugese journalist who was castrated and killed in a NYC hotel by his male model boyfriend not that long ago.
Posted by: runningrn at February 23, 2011 06:00 PM (ihSHD)
I studied at the state medical examiners for a semester, and, from my observations, I found this to be true.
Posted by: Andrew Sullivan at February 23, 2011 02:07 PM (hypVB)
Homosexuality is about gender in many ways. One of the strongest predictors of homosexuality is gender non-conformity, particularly at a young age. Sometimes it is internalized and other times it is externalized.
People keep asking why sexuality is more fluid for women. Gender expression is more fluid for women. Women can take on many different roles in society with contradictory gender obligations. The switch from a male or female partner is not as drastic for women. Gender obligations for men are more rigid, but as gender roles become more fluid for men, sexuality will become more fluid for men.
I don't think this represents a societal advance, but this is probably more NPR blabber.
Posted by: Paper at February 23, 2011 02:07 PM (VoSja)
It's clearly about validation. Nothing more, nothing less. That's why civil unions just wouldn't do.
Posted by: AmishDude at February 23, 2011 06:03 PM (T0NGe)
It's absolutely about validation. MANY if not MOST male homosexuals are the victim of child molestation. I believe this results in a feeling of being "dirty" or "tainted", and the way many of their minds deal with it is to convince themselves that it's "Okay."
Eventually they convince themselves that there is nothing wrong with it at all, but they still have that nagging feeling that there is. As a result, they are constantly pushing for validation of their belief as a therapy for their original molestation.
In other words, validation is their chosen therapy.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 23, 2011 02:07 PM (/G5LI)
Jerry: It would be nice to care about someone.
George: Yes. Yes. Care. You know who I think about a lot? Remember Susan: ? The one that used to work for NBC?
Jerry: Hmm. I thought she became a lesbian.
George: No. It didn't take.
Jerry: Oh.
Posted by: Tami at February 23, 2011 02:07 PM (VuLos)
I need bullying to be defined for me here.
Because I'm thinking I do it seven times before I eat my morning breakfast.
Ah, therein lies the rub, Lacey! Can you say big boondoggle bone being thrown to the trial lawyers? Anything can be construed as bullying.
Posted by: runningrn at February 23, 2011 02:09 PM (ihSHD)
I think the morons are gonna be more than willing to buy the 'ettes unlimited appletinis at the next meetup...
Posted by: Alex at February 23, 2011 02:09 PM (x40U+)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 23, 2011 02:09 PM (oJKHo)
You and I may be in the minority here. It seems like a few morons have done graduate level work in the field of Stripper Psychology and Psycho-sexual Mores.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at February 23, 2011 02:10 PM (LH6ir)
Anything can be construed as bullying.
I give you the stink-eye >>> Bullying!
I say 'whatever' after you say something >>> Bullying!
I make you listen to Ga-Ga's Born this Way >>> Bullying! (oh wait, that one is acceptable!)
Posted by: laceyunderalls at February 23, 2011 02:10 PM (pLTLS)
Will this Corgi stuck on my penis suffice?
Careful there, bub! One man's Corgi is another man's wife. (For some reason, Prince Charles comes to mind).
Posted by: runningrn at February 23, 2011 02:11 PM (ihSHD)
Legislation to balance the state budget = bullying.
Lying about being sick to skip work to go to Madison and walk around with "Walker Sucks Koch" posters while a handful of Dems hold the rest of the state hostage = not bullying.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at February 23, 2011 02:11 PM (nAOMZ)
States are passing anti-bullying laws.
and what's even more infurating is that a good number of repubs are supporting them, makes me want to smash bricks on my head.
(what folks really need to know is that these anti-bullying laws aren't about bullies they are all about using the force of Law to make school kids stop teasing the gays, it pure progressive social engineering and I reject it.)
Posted by: Sgt. Batguano at February 23, 2011 02:11 PM (ehKDD)
Slowly now
Yeah I caught that after I went on my rampage. To me, this is his worst decision yet. Puts me into a blind rage.
Posted by: laceyunderalls at February 23, 2011 02:12 PM (pLTLS)
Posted by: texette at February 23, 2011 02:12 PM (BIdl+)
Care to back that up with some facts?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at February 23, 2011 06:06 PM (LH6ir)
Not at this time. I researched this stuff years ago, and I no longer have it at the ready to slap down on people. If you look into this material, you will find the assertion pretty well accepted and considered axiomatic.
I'd start with looking at the Male-Female vs Female-Male sex change numbers. Hell, just look at fetish porn, and you will see it's mostly male oriented.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 23, 2011 02:12 PM (/G5LI)
[And the rest of it is as silly]
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 23, 2011 06:07 PM (/G5LI)
Sweeping generalities backed up by nothing by vehemence and, soon, vitriol are not a replacement for debate.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at February 23, 2011 02:12 PM (LH6ir)
Posted by: Paper at February 23, 2011 02:13 PM (VoSja)
You and I may be in the minority here. It seems like a few morons have done graduate level work in the field of Stripper Psychology and Psycho-sexual Mores.
I believe they've been completing Post-dic work.
Posted by: runningrn at February 23, 2011 02:13 PM (ihSHD)
Now that's an insult to Corgis.
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at February 23, 2011 02:13 PM (yfJ6g)
Posted by: AmishDude at February 23, 2011 02:14 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 23, 2011 06:09 PM (oJKHo)
Thank you for that image. Please pass the mind bleach.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at February 23, 2011 02:14 PM (LH6ir)
Anything can be construed as bullying
Honey don't give a shit. If Honey wants to bash into a bees nest and eat some larvae, then no lawyer's going to get Honey for bullying. Honey'll claw your eyes out for that. This is Honey's territory.
oh look... a fat kid...
Posted by: Honey Badger at February 23, 2011 02:15 PM (gH+Hj)
Doing your Bible study homework at your desk at lunch = bullying
Boss sticking a cigar up an intern's hoo-ha = not bullying
Posted by: HeatherRadish at February 23, 2011 02:15 PM (nAOMZ)
It's funny, because with the number who were trying to pay their way through medical school, you'd think there would be a larger body of work out there.
Posted by: Alex at February 23, 2011 02:16 PM (x40U+)
Oh, I see. So mass-market examples of fetishism are an acceptable replacement for actual statistics? Okay...you convinced me.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at February 23, 2011 02:16 PM (LH6ir)
Sweeping generalities backed up by nothing by vehemence and, soon, vitriol are not a replacement for debate.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at February 23, 2011 06:12 PM (LH6ir)
Don't take my word for it. Research it yourself. I used to research this stuff extensively, and every book i've read on the subject mentions this very common denominator.
By the way, what is the gender of most children molested by Catholic priests?
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 23, 2011 02:18 PM (/G5LI)
Posted by: sifty at February 23, 2011 02:18 PM (cK4d/)
State Senators walking off the job and refusing to their jobs--not bullying.
Requiring State Senators to pick up paychecks in person--bullying.
Posted by: runningrn at February 23, 2011 02:18 PM (ihSHD)
Posted by: buzzsawmonkey at February 23, 2011 02:18 PM (KB8P5)
Posted by: Paper at February 23, 2011 06:13 PM (VoSja)
Something else I read. Queen Victoria ushered in the Victorian age after the Debauched (and rife with murderous diseases) Georgian age. Queen Victoria passed laws against Male Homosexuality, but none against Female homosexuality. Why? She didn't believe such a thing existed! 
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 23, 2011 02:20 PM (/G5LI)
and speaking of ghey, pretty sure this one is about to come out of hiding.
he sure looks whimsical in that swing,huh?
Posted by: laceyunderalls at February 23, 2011 02:21 PM (pLTLS)
Thousands of Union workers converging on State capital with Walker as Hitler signs and other threats, leaving all kinds of deitrus and crap behind--not bullying.
Thousands of peaceful Tea Party Protestors converging on nation's capital, singing the Star Spangled Banner and cleaning up after themselves--bullying.
Posted by: runningrn at February 23, 2011 02:21 PM (ihSHD)
Posted by: © Sponge at February 23, 2011 05:57 PM (UK9cE)
Oh that's a load of shit. I believe California had civil unions on the books allowing their partners to be covered without calling marriage. That may be what some of them want, but then you're getting into the difference between what some want and the liberal agenda that is masquerading as gay rights.
I've said it before. The way to push this is for the elimination of marriage from the state. Have all unions under the law be referred to as Civil unions even if its between a man and a woman. By doing this it will eliminate the potential threat to churches and they will still have the word marriage to them. Also no one is really going to give a damn if you went and got a civil union and call your partner your husband or wife. Afterall its supposed to be about equality under the law as they say.
But I would be willing to bet that you'd have a lot more of the "intolerant bigotted dumb hicks" on board with this idea than you would the "tolerant loving of everyone just looking for equality gay rights supporters." Because its not really about equality.
Posted by: buzzion at February 23, 2011 02:21 PM (oVQFe)
Oh, he's "grappling", all right! With himself, the wanker ...
Posted by: ya2daup at February 23, 2011 02:22 PM (7GfKM)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at February 23, 2011 06:16 PM (LH6ir)
Indicative. You want statistics, look for them.
Look up the Suicide rate in San Fransisco and compare it with other cities of a similar size.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 23, 2011 02:22 PM (/G5LI)
Then the logical next step should be -10 tolerance. School officials should visit the homes of all students, and if they see any evidence of weapons or anti-social behavior , then the child should be proactively suspended (Common Sense, or The Federalist Papers will be cause for immediate expulsion of course).
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at February 23, 2011 02:23 PM (LH6ir)
Moochelle Obama lecturing about what we eat and hectoring us all to exercise--not bullying.
Rush Limbaugh criticizing Moochelle for hypocrisy--bullying.
Posted by: runningrn at February 23, 2011 02:24 PM (ihSHD)
Growing up, I remember when the school changed from teaching us to confront bullies to "tell a teacher" mentality. Meanwhile, my parents and grandparents told me that if someone else threw the first punch, I was to take them down and not stop until the adults pulled me off. And that Grandpa or Mom or whoever would back me 100%.
Posted by: Alex at February 23, 2011 02:24 PM (x40U+)
and speaking of ghey, pretty sure this one is about to come out of hiding.
he sure looks whimsical in that swing,huh?
Posted by: laceyunderalls at February 23, 2011 06:21 PM (pLTLS)
he was thinking about Justin Beiber at the time...
Posted by: Sgt. Batguano at February 23, 2011 02:25 PM (ehKDD)
Slowly now
Yeah I caught that after I went on my rampage. To me, this is his worst decision yet. Puts me into a blind rage.
Posted by: laceyunderalls at February 23, 2011 06:12 PM (pLTLS)
I'm sure Amish will forgive you for not catching on quicker. You are a lawyer afterall
Posted by: buzzion at February 23, 2011 02:26 PM (oVQFe)
Indicative. You want statistics, look for them.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 23, 2011 06:22 PM (/G5LI)
The incidence of lesbianism among women with breast implants is 87%. That is based on my close examination of pornography in America.
See? My data are indicative!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at February 23, 2011 02:26 PM (LH6ir)
Posted by: buzzsawmonkey at February 23, 2011 02:28 PM (KB8P5)
The ABA dude who is doing the assessment on my kid for classes asked me my sexual orientation and if we owned any guns last night. Right in the middle of the questions. Like it was shoehorned in. Any employee of the state who asks for that information is not seeking information, they are building a future case. And I told him so. Little shitweasel.
I told the stupid fucker "You met my wife last time you were here. She lives here. That's a picture of us on our wedding day. What more do you need? We don't have a sex video."
Sexual orientation. They must be marking down all the remaining straight white married couples in California like fucking condors. Next they'll put a fuckin radio collar on us.
He didn't even ask the gun question again so he got no answer. Think he was all flustered.
Posted by: sifty at February 23, 2011 02:31 PM (cK4d/)
Posted by: Jake_in_Idaho at February 23, 2011 02:32 PM (vrDK+)
Posted by: buzzsawmonkey at February 23, 2011 02:34 PM (KB8P5)
Posted by: Honey Badger at February 23, 2011 02:34 PM (gH+Hj)
initally DOMA pissed me off because I hate getting the Federal government (any of the branches) involved in entirely state matters. We have had a country divided by the wrongheaded anti-republican Roe v. Wade decision. Do we really want the Federal government invading another entirely state matter such as marriage because this cause fits our worldview. Republicans and social cons can't go silent on states rights, 10th amendment, and republicanism just because they want some specific outcome favorable to thier moral view.
But DOMA really is in support of states rights. With DOMA, the Federal government gave the states to right to follow thier own policies in regards to homosexual marriage. It was legislation that empowered states, not legislation that usurped state power and put in in the Fed's hands (as would be the case if SCOTUS ruled gay marriage was covered by a penumbra of rights eminating from the.....).
And then the other provision of DOMA just states what the Federal position on marriage should be for Federal considerations. I supposed I can't deny the Federal giverment the the authority to define marriage for the Federal system.
So in the end, I don't see DOMA as a threat to the republic, or hyppocritical to conservatives that advocate for less Federal authority on matters reserved to the states.
As this point, I see a President, acting unilaterally on his own to disregard a duly enacted law. The executive branch is supposed to enact and enforce the laws. It is not with the purview of the President to declare something unconstitutional. If he has that authority, then I have the authortiy to declare him unconstitutional for disregarding the rule of law and enforcing the law in a capricious manner.
Posted by: California Red at February 23, 2011 02:40 PM (7uWb8)
I'm sure Amish will forgive you for not catching on quicker. You are a lawyer afterall
Posted by: buzzion at February 23, 2011 06:26 PM (oVQFe)
Oh, lacey, don't feel bad. Sometimes I don't even catch my snark in time.
Posted by: AmishDude at February 23, 2011 02:42 PM (T0NGe)
Will this Corgi stuck on my penis suffice?
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 23, 2011 06:09 PM (oJKHo)
Jeff: You already won this thread, and you come back with that? Save some fu for the next thread.
Posted by: tcn at February 23, 2011 02:47 PM (DjPot)
The Disgruntled Heterosexual women are pretty common.
Hello? If they aren't getting laid (and I men by a man with his man parts) of course they are disgruntled. Duh.
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Posted by: rplat at February 23, 2011 04:55 PM (4vq8i)
Justices of the Peace; bucho bucks performin all the transpeoples just desrved weddins, and now we can force the preachers to marry them,so there ya go stimulatin the private sector too.
And when the flame of lovin burns out,well we'll be here to service those divorce decrees.So everybody can find there next true partner .Lovin contractors,that's what we are.
It's really all about jobs.mmm mmm mmm.And love,,it's a right,ya know.
But if you like the marriage you have, you can keep it.
Posted by: ASSn. of Divorce Lawyers at February 23, 2011 05:54 PM (nFYE1)
this whole thing is a diversion, we're about to run face-first into fiscal wall, the middle-east is blowing up, the unions are in a huff and Obama wants to talk about DOMA?
c'mon folks, don't be suckers stay focused.
Posted by: Sgt. Batguano at February 23, 2011 06:07 PM (yCH89)
Posted by: buzzsawmonkey at February 23, 2011 06:25 PM (KB8P5)
423 Used to be that if you were being bullied, you could fight the bully and he'd back off. With zero-tolerance rules that kick in regardless of who is at fault, this is no longer an option; attack someone who's been making your life miserable and it is probable that you'll get suspended or expelled, and at the very least have a black mark on your record.
Bullshit. You can't be willing to throw down with some bully yet scared to death of your "permanant record." Which is a load of shit anyway. If you aren't arrested and convicted, it ain't on your permanant record.
You want to suspend me? Fuck you, next question.
Posted by: ed at February 23, 2011 06:32 PM (Y2WVW)
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Posted by: Ohio Dan at February 23, 2011 08:39 PM (EH4cc)
"but many of those Deluded White and HisPanic voters is a whole nother story"
Those who do not belong to the many Christian denominations which have approved homosexual marriage.
Posted by: davod at February 23, 2011 09:07 PM (GUZAT)
139 You're bigots. Intolerant, hateful, xenophobic bigots.
Oh, do go on. Flattery will get you everywhere!
Posted by: sartana at February 23, 2011 10:16 PM (+fNcw)
"464 Jumping in late and this thread is probably beat to death by now. I am no lawyer and really pretty much a simpleton but isn't it the presidents and his justice department's job to defend laws if they are consttutional? "
I suggest you check up on the Obama Administration's DOJ implimentation of the Voting Rights act.
Posted by: davod at February 23, 2011 10:20 PM (GUZAT)
Posted by: Ktnxbai *cough* at February 23, 2011 10:49 PM (xb5+w)
Posted by: NHLJersey at February 24, 2011 12:15 AM (+yYdw)
Good gawd, you prissy little fops sure do come up with some of the most intolerant, accusatory language when your arguement fails.
You're the kind of "ConcernedFag" that screeches about "xenophobic, nazi bigots" then goes home to your Schutzstaffel uniform-wearing boyfriend. He makes you say "Ja wohl, Herr Reichsführer!!", as he does a round ”macht boomsen” on your ass. You secretly love "intolerant, hateful, xenophobic bigots". That's what gets you all "excited".
Don't forget the hamster.
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