June 11, 2011

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Another Prediction Comes True: Weiner Checking In For "Treatment"

— Ace

Sex Rehab? Well, they say "treatment" for "inappropriate behavior." I say "sex rehab."

Link at Hot Air.

He's also taking a leave of absence. Some commenters speculated there was no such thing, and I said, "I'm inclined to agree with them."

But that was based on nothing at all. In fact, there is a Leave of Absence for Congressmen.

Just a reminder, speculation is often wrong. Sometimes being wrong is relatively harmless, as it is here. Sometimes it is more harmful.

...

Well, that's probably not the best sign.

Sources said much of the conversations between Weiner and the high schooler had been deleted from the girl's computer.

It's possible that still implicates the "manslaughter" scenario I've been favoring. Flirty, familiar, and overly-friendly tweets would look bad even if they didn't look criminal.

Further, the girl could be acting with an overabundance of caution.

Ban Warning: This is in the hands of the police and no further speculations about the private individuals in this matter are warranted. We will quickly know. There is no need to race to try to get "in front of the evidence," like it's the Belmont Stakes.

The suspicions are so obvious they don't need to be said.

Official last warning: Get off the girl. Talk about Weiner and his behavior. Further speculation about what is known and confirmed (like "sources' saying the conversations were deleted) is subject to immediate, no-further-warning ban.

Super Update: Gabe points out something I forgot: If Weiner deleted the Tweets on his side, they would also disappear from the girl's account.

Ergo, she didn't necessarily delete anything. Weiner might have helpfully deleted them on her behalf.

Posted by: Ace at 10:10 AM | Comments (639)
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1 Deleted, yeah, but that doesn't mean they're gone...or irretrievable.

Posted by: Sgt. York at June 11, 2011 10:11 AM (doQNd)

2 Hello, Twitter!

Posted by: subpeona at June 11, 2011 10:11 AM (4Kl5M)

3 time to get a warrant for the twitter databases?

Posted by: Chris at June 11, 2011 10:12 AM (D5cll)

4 Also...Pelosi has now called for Wiener's roast

http://tinyurl.com/3qvou57

Posted by: Sgt. York at June 11, 2011 10:12 AM (doQNd)

5 Ha!He sent dicpicks at the very least.

Posted by: steevy at June 11, 2011 10:12 AM (FDWZY)

6 Hello, Twitter! I'll handle this.

Posted by: subpoena at June 11, 2011 10:12 AM (4Kl5M)

7 Weiner's weenie is roasted.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at June 11, 2011 10:14 AM (bawkB)

8 Yes, just because you delete something doesn't make it go away. This is probably why all his "peers" are jumping on the resignation bandwagon .

Posted by: Donna at June 11, 2011 10:14 AM (bdE9c)

9 8 Rats off a sinking ship.

Posted by: steevy at June 11, 2011 10:15 AM (FDWZY)

10 Where is Chris Hanson?

Posted by: lauren at June 11, 2011 10:15 AM (RWo59)

11 The fact that they were deleted does NOT prove that there is anything untoward in them. It is just more CIRCUMSTANTIAL EVIDENCE that something very bad took place. That's why cops need to get a search warrant against Twitter and find out everything that was said. Which I've been saying all along.

Posted by: Daryl Herbert at June 11, 2011 10:16 AM (6YReu)

12 Probably don't want to speculate about a private person.  You know, that deleted conversations aren't a good sign.


Posted by: FUBAR at June 11, 2011 10:17 AM (1fanL)

13

I'm  more interested in Ace's 'Tales of an Ewok S.A.T. Tutor'.

I'm thinking that Ace has the makings of a Skinemaxx / Scy Fy Classic.

 ( Although I am suspicious that the High School Class he taught was more the product of his finding a half-can of starter fluid on a successful Hobo Hunt and a 'Head of the Class' weekend marathon than of reality)

Posted by: garrett at June 11, 2011 10:19 AM (k2AuH)

14 I understand why you were reluctant to push this angle and why you were so ready to throw in the towel, Ace. If she didn't have sexy talk with Rep Weiner, that would make you a jerk invading the privacy of an innocent girl. And even if she did have sexy talk with him, you're still invading her privacy, potentially causing her extreme embarrassment, and she would not be culpable--she's the victim, after all. So I understand why you were so quick to take her family's word for it. This is an ugly business and you should not have had to investigate it at all--that's for the media and the police. But they didn't want to investigate until bloggers forced the issue.

Posted by: Daryl Herbert at June 11, 2011 10:20 AM (6YReu)

15 Twitter and Tumblr both need to be subpoenaed though in reality Weiner's computer is the on that should be checked.  I'd like to know what forum he was chatting in with the Vegas woman. 

Posted by: Pmzey at June 11, 2011 10:20 AM (pmzey)

16

CUMSTANTIAL EVIDENCE

 

I'm coming after that, next!

Posted by: Foreskin Man at June 11, 2011 10:20 AM (k2AuH)

Posted by: momma at June 11, 2011 10:21 AM (nWikJ)

18 Hey, Fubar, since it would be me, not you, getting sued, why don't you get off my ass and let me set the rules regarding how much speculation I permit? Or do you want to sign a legal document immunizing me from suit? What I just posted is a reported statement from "sources' that the coversations were deleted. That's not speculation. That is at least two people telling a reporter they were deleted. Do you understand the distinction between speculation about a private person and a confirmed report, given by two sources, about a private person?

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2011 10:21 AM (nj1bB)

19 As a side note, how the hell is Scott Weiland still alive?

Posted by: lauren at June 11, 2011 10:21 AM (RWo59)

20

Dammit, that evil Mohel excised the 'CIRC' while I was dicking around with the comments!

 

Posted by: Foreskin Man at June 11, 2011 10:21 AM (k2AuH)

21 Well the tweets have been deleted, so I guess the case is over, and you're off the hook Weiner.

Just one more thing, though...

Posted by: Columbo at June 11, 2011 10:22 AM (TCyyS)

22 Breaking news DNC chair calls for Weiner to resign

Posted by: Storm at June 11, 2011 10:22 AM (AZFgs)

23 No one seems to have a clue but Ace.  He was right about this from day 1.

Posted by: Common Sense at June 11, 2011 10:22 AM (ndlFj)

24

As a side note, how the hell is Scott Weiland still alive?

 

There is no Justice

Posted by: D. Boone at June 11, 2011 10:23 AM (k2AuH)

25 Computer hard drive space is at a premium today.

Posted by: Cicero at June 11, 2011 10:23 AM (Txl/u)

26 I think her mom is full of crap.  Also, deleted does not mean gone.  It's still on the hard drive unless it's been written over numerous times. Has it? And if it has, the twitter people may still have a copy. 

Posted by: mike at June 11, 2011 10:23 AM (eZ5Jk)

27 *Debbie Wasserman Schultz

Posted by: Storm at June 11, 2011 10:24 AM (AZFgs)

28 By God, they'll never find those damn tweets

Posted by: Tony Weiner at June 11, 2011 10:24 AM (v/laJ)

29 Well, I now want Weiner to stay. I am opposed to anything Debbie Mayonaisehair Blabbermouth shrill Schultz is for.

Posted by: dagny at June 11, 2011 10:24 AM (VeRO9)

30 Drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip

Posted by: The Hole In The Dyke at June 11, 2011 10:25 AM (Txl/u)

31 Wasn't there a story about a year ago that said the Library of Congress (?? I *think* it was the LoC ??) was storing every and all tweets.

Would that include the direct messages?

Posted by: laceyunderalls at June 11, 2011 10:25 AM (bawkB)

32

That's alright.

I'm making up the conversations in my mind. The truth is probably less horrible than the imagination anyway.

Weiner is a very, bad man. Redacted: For the last time: stop talking up the girl. This isn't an advisory. THis is banning warning. -- Ace.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at June 11, 2011 10:26 AM (GKQDR)

33

I have not committed any offense, and take exception to any suggestion that my actions are offensive, or in any way sexually suggestive. 

I am a man of honor, and have responded to requests from members of the public for information, and on one occasion, mistakenly tweeted a photograph of myself in gray shorts with my pet mouse Norman asleep in my shorts. 

Both Norman and I regret any misinterpretation of this tweet, and apologize to anyone offended, to include other members of my tweeting family.  Remain strong, and we will survive this onslaught from this conservative originated War on Weiner!

Posted by: Anthony Weiner, D-New York at June 11, 2011 10:26 AM (cwFVA)

34 If Weiner resigns, I don't want him to be off the hook.Hopefully the investigation will continue. If that weasel did what I think he did I want him to do the perp walk...

Posted by: Donna at June 11, 2011 10:27 AM (bdE9c)

35 I think her mom is full of crap.  Also, deleted does not mean gone.  It's still on the hard drive unless it's been written over numerous times. Has it? And if it has, the twitter people may still have a copy.

The mom was asked about her daughter proclaiming that she was in love with Weiner.  Her response?  "She's 17."

Seriously?  You find out your daughter is smitten with a married 47 year old creepville, and that's what you say?  Jesus.

Posted by: Columbo at June 11, 2011 10:27 AM (TCyyS)

36 There is no such thing as "deleted" in the world of computer forensics.  If the computer is w/ the police, those messages will be found

Posted by: Ace Tomato at June 11, 2011 10:27 AM (23p1u)

37 It's in the cops' hands now, as it should be. They are already leaking. We will know in short order. This is a careful phase. A private person is involved. Not only are there legal consequences to being wrong here (generally less present with a public figure), but there's also an ethical concern: A private person does not usually have, as I do, a big blog to rebut false allegations. If false allegations are laid at a private person's feet, what does that person do to get his or her reputation back? This is a careful phase. Be careful. We will know in 24 hours.

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2011 10:27 AM (nj1bB)

38

 

what does pencil neck geek mean?

Posted by: Tony Weiner at June 11, 2011 10:28 AM (v/laJ)

39 What the cream is Tumblr?

Posted by: jeannebodine at June 11, 2011 10:28 AM (nvlAW)

40
but wait!

Huma is pregant has cancer is a member of Seal Team 6!

Posted by: le soothsayeau at June 11, 2011 10:28 AM (maHq2)

41 @Foreskin Man: I thought that was deliberate and you were making a "cum" joke. Because, you know, we're all morons here.

Posted by: Daryl Herbert at June 11, 2011 10:28 AM (6YReu)

42

As a side note, how the hell is Scott Weiland still alive?

 

I think he has the HST Gene* which gives him super human resistance to substance abuse.  Being chemicaly enhanced is base line normal if you are HST positive.

*Hunter S Thompson

Posted by: Roadking at June 11, 2011 10:29 AM (i0z6l)

43 We have to convict and sentence him to find out what happened.

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at June 11, 2011 10:29 AM (uaEZS)

44
Huma is pregnant just like the Lockerbie bomber has terminal cancer.

Posted by: le soothsayeau at June 11, 2011 10:29 AM (maHq2)

45
Yes, I am pregnant, but what does fapping mean?

Posted by: Huma Abedein, Tony's Squeeze at June 11, 2011 10:30 AM (cwFVA)

46
loose shit: title

Posted by: le soothsayeau at June 11, 2011 10:30 AM (maHq2)

47 Because people are missing this, I guess: Further speculation focusing on the girl's behavior will be subject to immediate ban. Fair warning.

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2011 10:30 AM (nj1bB)

48 What the cream is Tumblr?

It's another microblogging platform, somewhere between Twitter and normal blogging.  http://www.tumblr.com

It's kinda cool, makes it a lot easier to publish content quickly without the nuisance of adding titles, categories and tags to every post you write

Posted by: The Man Between The Cans at June 11, 2011 10:31 AM (TCyyS)

49 Ban warning. Last one.

Posted by: SantaRosaStan, calm before the Storm at June 11, 2011 10:31 AM (UqKQV)

50 @ 39

Some nerd: 

Tumblr, sometimes styled as tumblr., is a microblogging platform that allows users to post text, images, videos, links, quotes and audio to their tumblelog, a short-form blog. Users can follow other users, or choose to make their tumblelog private. The service emphasizes ease of use.[5]

Posted by: Pmzey at June 11, 2011 10:31 AM (pmzey)

51 I keep wondering why adult-geek Weiner has his twitter page plastered with super ugly teenage geek weiner picture as a background? Was that supposed to attract (bwa ha ha) teenage girls? WTF

Posted by: dagny at June 11, 2011 10:31 AM (VeRO9)

52 Wonder how long before the 17 yo breaks down and tells her mom and the police that she made a mistake? I don't see her waiting until the police supeona twitter.

Posted by: robtr at June 11, 2011 10:32 AM (MtwBb)

53 @31, I believe the LOC would NOT be saving direct messages, because it would have no way of getting them in the first place. I assume the LOC was getting the twitter messages from the members' public feeds. I suppose it's possible LOC was given special access by Twitter but it seems highly unlikely that congress members would agree to it (because it would invade their privacy and they would be paranoid about secret strategy messages being seen by the other side)

Posted by: Daryl Herbert at June 11, 2011 10:32 AM (6YReu)

54 And I don't want to hear about the parents, either. It's in the cops' hands. Our speculations mean not a goddamn thing because the evidence is now in the hands of the police. We will know shortly. There is no good reason to overspeculate.

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2011 10:32 AM (nj1bB)

55
She nuked it out of orbit . . . just to make sure.

Posted by: arhooley at June 11, 2011 10:33 AM (eNx0o)

56 Weiner will NEVER resign. He has nothing else. Political office is his only reason for existing. If he is to go he will have to be forcibly removed.

Posted by: Mitchell at June 11, 2011 10:33 AM (Ct9yl)

57 robtr, please see my ban warning above.

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2011 10:33 AM (nj1bB)

58 Covert-sations? Lewis Carroll would be proud... well, okay, at least Alice Liddell would have been

Posted by: Zimriel at June 11, 2011 10:33 AM (v8wYt)

59 STP - Vasoline

Posted by: dIb at June 11, 2011 10:33 AM (aRwtY)

60
The fact that they were deleted does NOT prove that there is anything untoward in them. It is just more CIRCUMSTANTIAL EVIDENCE that something very bad took place.

That which supposedly need not be hidden . . . has been hidden.

Posted by: arhooley at June 11, 2011 10:34 AM (eNx0o)

61

Sorry Ace. I won't do it again.

It was meant as a joke. And a point that deletion makes it seem even worse.

I'm sorry.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at June 11, 2011 10:34 AM (GKQDR)

62 I seriously hope I don't turn into a Weiner myself.  Some other moron suggested this is Weiner's revenge since no girl would come within 100 years of him during his time in high school (have you seen his high school photo?  Holy crap)

I didn't have much with the ladies then either, so....  O_O

Posted by: The Man Between The Cans at June 11, 2011 10:34 AM (TCyyS)

63 Wonderful musical accompaniment; great words (both written and sung) with a rockin' back beat. I'll give it a 99...

Posted by: shivas Irons at June 11, 2011 10:34 AM (qu2SW)

64

They have no proof.  I told her to delete it...

Posted by: John D'oh at June 11, 2011 10:34 AM (v/laJ)

65 Ace is right to be cautious.  One the the sites that had pics of Weiner's cyber-harem is black.  No, just the webpage w/ the pics.  Which I saw only 10 hrs ago.  Maybe it's just my poor internetting skillz

Posted by: late to the party, again at June 11, 2011 10:34 AM (ucq49)

66 coversations? New word for covert conversations? I like it.

Posted by: PaleRider at June 11, 2011 10:35 AM (cQZV0)

67

Further, the girl could be acting with an overabundance of caution

I'll take "Words that you never expect to see in regard to 17 year old girls" for $500 Alex.

Posted by: ParanoidWorkingGirlinSeattle at June 11, 2011 10:35 AM (RZ8pf)

68  Ace is right. We gotta wait and see what comes out of this.While speculating is fun it is also pointless .The girl and her Parents should be off limits at this time. They are the victims here.

Posted by: Donna at June 11, 2011 10:36 AM (bdE9c)

69 #36 @AceTomato: "There is no such thing as "deleted" in the world of computer forensics. If the computer is w/ the police, those messages will be found" That's not quite right. It's hard to remove all traces of something from a computer, but it is possible. Twitter DMs would really only have been saved in the computer's cache, which naturally gets overwritten (it's just a matter of time and it's hard to find stuff there) Photographs that she saved on her computer (that she sent to Rep Weiner, if any, and that Rep Weiner sent to her, if any) would be harder to scrub, but not impossible. The best place to look for this is on Twitter (and maybe Tumblr, Yfrog, email, phone records to see if he called her house/cell from his direct congressional line)

Posted by: Daryl Herbert at June 11, 2011 10:36 AM (6YReu)

70 What the hell am I going to do for an income?  Nobody's hiring!

Wait, McDonald's is hiring!  I can do that!  Sure I can!  How hard could it be?

You're getting fries with that.  SIR!  YOU'RE GETTING FRIES WITH THAT!  SIR!  SIR, I'M NOT DONE TALKING!  I said you're getting fries with that.  Now how much do you make?  Never mind, just give me everything in your wallet!

Posted by: Anthony Weiner at June 11, 2011 10:36 AM (uaEZS)

71

Okay, I didn't see your warning before posting.  But you brought up the 'caution' aspect as well as numerous details about her.

 I don't understand the point of this thread.   Do you?

Posted by: SantaRosaStan, calm before the Storm at June 11, 2011 10:36 AM (UqKQV)

72 Weiner will NEVER resign. He has nothing else. Political office is his only reason for existing. If he is to go he will have to be forcibly removed.

He IS going to be forcibly removed, or forced to resign.  When you've lost Debbie and Nancy...

Posted by: The Man Between The Cans at June 11, 2011 10:37 AM (TCyyS)

73 If they were innocent, she's deleted exculpatory evidence.

Posted by: nickless at June 11, 2011 10:37 AM (MMC8r)

74 I've never read anyone question the pregnancy; but if she was pregnant for 3 months why didn't they tell anyone. I've had 2 kids and the world knew quite soon. I do know of folks that have had trouble before waiting for the first few months before telling anyone, so I guess their is a logical/smart explanation. And, except as how badly I feel for a child borne of Weiner and a Hillaryclone, it's not important to me at all.

Posted by: shivas Irons at June 11, 2011 10:37 AM (qu2SW)

75 I haven't tipped this to you here, but have mentioned it on Twitter: The super-dirty text "she" wrote may not have been written by her at all. And I'm not just being cautious here. So don't push on that thread. That's likely a red herring -- except to the extent Anthony Weiner might think the girl is "interesting."

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2011 10:37 AM (nj1bB)

76 Humas on a vacation far away...

Posted by: Pmzey at June 11, 2011 10:37 AM (pmzey)

77 Consciousness of guilt?

Posted by: stuiec at June 11, 2011 10:37 AM (HMdeP)

78 OK, don't ban me, I confess I posted before I saw the warning.

Posted by: ParanoidWorkingGirlinSeattle at June 11, 2011 10:37 AM (RZ8pf)

79 How low long before Huma's bun gets miscarriaged due to all the unwarranted press attention stress? And...ya know... those guys from dateline have been sent to jail for much less than Wiener's circumstantial evidence.

Posted by: phil at June 11, 2011 10:38 AM (QzdcC)

80 Speaking of assholes, and twitter, but mainly assholes, did you see this tweet by Kenny Mayne:

almost rammed car with palin bumper sticker. with intent.. held up..coulda been kids in car.


Posted by: laceyunderalls at June 11, 2011 10:38 AM (bawkB)

81 Best case, old pervy Ant'ny was waiting for her to turn 18 before he sent her a junk shot.

Posted by: BRITEBART KAT at June 11, 2011 10:38 AM (3gzw5)

82 >>>I don't understand the point of this thread. Do you? Yes, the point of this thread is to inform you of a currently reported, breaking word from "sources" that "most" of the conversations have been deleted. The point of this comment is to tell you that not every suspicion need be publicly posted to a blog, as regards a private individual.

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2011 10:39 AM (nj1bB)

83 Since the yellow cards are flying, I'll just post this: I want a full investigation and Weiner's expulsion, and to hell with his useless and amoral constituents. That, or an explicit admission from the entire Congressional leadership that the House has no code of conduct. We can work out the implications of the latter elsewhere.

Posted by: Zimriel at June 11, 2011 10:39 AM (v8wYt)

84 It's in the cops' hands. Our speculations mean not a goddamn thing because the evidence is now in the hands of the police.

Don't worry, guys, I'm in charge and I won't screw this one up! That damn asshole from Hymietown won't skate like OJ did!

Posted by: Mark Fuhrman, New Castle PD at June 11, 2011 10:39 AM (2PTT7)

85

Weeeeiiiiiiiiinnnnnner Weiner!  

WEEEEIIIIINNNERR!   WEEEIIIINNNER!  wEIner wEIner......

WEEIIINNER! 

YOU'RE WASHED UP WEINER - GET OUT YA BUM!

Posted by: Bleacher Bum in the Congress House Chambers Gallery at June 11, 2011 10:39 AM (i0z6l)

86 When you've lost Debbie and Nancy...

And Matt Damon too!

Posted by: Matt Damon! at June 11, 2011 10:39 AM (TCyyS)

87 Speaking of assholes, and twitter, but mainly assholes, did you see this tweet by Kenny Mayne:

almost rammed car with palin bumper sticker. with intent.. held up..coulda been kids in car.

  I did see that. Un frikin believable1

Posted by: Donna at June 11, 2011 10:39 AM (bdE9c)

88 I like this from Ed Driscoll: 

"Nothing may come of the investigation into WeinerÂ’s conscious decision to conduct private communications with a 17-year-old who publicly dreamed of getting Weiner to escort her to her high-school prom.  But the mere fact that Weiner chose to do this, especially while conducting more revolting communications with other women using the same modus operandi, should have everyone convinced that Weiner lacks the judgment or the maturity to handle his responsibilities, and that the best option — for Weiner as well as all others concerned — is for him to withdraw from public life Â… and start thinking about what he wants to do when he grows up."

Posted by: Theresa D. at June 11, 2011 10:40 AM (/XWjq)

89 68  Ace is right. We gotta wait and see what comes out of this.While speculating is fun it is also pointless .The girl and her Parents should be off limits at this time. They are the victims here. Posted by: Donna at June 11, 2011 02:36 PM (bdE9c) Ethyl is the textbook definition of "jailbait."

Posted by: stuiec at June 11, 2011 10:40 AM (HMdeP)

90 "I've never read anyone question the pregnancy; but if she was pregnant for 3 months why didn't they tell anyone."

Eh, people routinely wait until a pregnancy is well advanced before telling anyone, especially a first child.

Posted by: Kensington at June 11, 2011 10:40 AM (uaEZS)

91 62 I seriously hope I don't turn into a Weiner myself.  Some other moron suggested this is Weiner's revenge since no girl would come within 100 years of him during his time in high school (have you seen his high school photo?  Holy crap)

I didn't have much with the ladies then either, so....  O_O

Posted by: The Man Between The Cans at June 11, 2011 02:34 PM (TCyyS)

That was me.

Eavesdrop on a teenage girl conversation. It'll wither your amour. It takes a real sicko to go there. My second son suggests that's why teenage boys drink--to be able to stand the conversation of a teenage girl while trying to hook up with her. It's a constant face palm. One of them texted the other day that she was really glad her "softmore" year was over.

Posted by: dagny at June 11, 2011 10:40 AM (VeRO9)

92 Remember when Mayne was wildly hysterical on ESPN?

Yeah, I don't either.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at June 11, 2011 10:40 AM (bawkB)

93 Look, here's what I'm saying: What if your suspicions are false, and my manslaughter theory is right? What is the point then of speculating, in a way that will turn out to be false, about a 17 year old girl? We can't wait for the actual report here? We *have* to go all the way there?

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2011 10:41 AM (nj1bB)

94 Ah, not to be a wet blanket screwhead type, but isn't this destruction of evidence and obstruction?  Not that I have any desire to charge anyone, just saying.  

Posted by: Beagle at June 11, 2011 10:42 AM (sOtz/)

95 stuiec, you can't help yourself, can you? That's okay, I'll help you with a ban.

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2011 10:42 AM (nj1bB)

96

who publicly dreamed of getting Weiner to escort her to her high-school prom.

Ew. Ew, Ew, Ew, Ew, Ew. EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW.

Posted by: dagny at June 11, 2011 10:42 AM (VeRO9)

97

At this point I'm lost in all the social media myself and still wondering how the man had time to do Congressional work considering all the tweets and DMs and Facebook posts and whatever else. Plus phone calls?

I guess people just assume when they see an "important" person clicking away on their blackberry that they are doing "the people's work" and not skeevy personal stuff?

Posted by: ParanoidWorkingGirlinSeattle at June 11, 2011 10:42 AM (RZ8pf)

98
If Weiner resigns, I don't want him to be off the hook.Hopefully the investigation will continue.

I can't believe I'm saying this, but if he resigns I will actually be done with Weinergate. Just to have that ugly, immoral scold removed from power over his own misbehavior is like a fantasy coming true.

Posted by: arhooley at June 11, 2011 10:42 AM (eNx0o)

99 Look, here's what I'm saying:

What if your suspicions are false, and my manslaughter theory is right?

What is the point then of speculating, in a way that will turn out to be false, about a 17 year old girl?

We can't wait for the actual report here? We *have* to go all the way there?

  Exactly.One does have to wonder what changed to make Nan, and Debbie pile onto the resignation bandwagon.

Posted by: Donna at June 11, 2011 10:43 AM (bdE9c)

100 Thanks Ace!

Posted by: demoncrat at June 11, 2011 10:43 AM (GkYyh)

101 He still has my support!  I hope he becomes mayor!  I may even get another hideous tattoo to show my support.

And also to get back at my father.

Posted by: Janeane Girrafalo at June 11, 2011 10:43 AM (uaEZS)

102 Hope I'm not crossing the line with this, Ace...

...but her deletion probably was just a reactionary move like the guy who flushes pot down the toilet when there's a knock at the door. Certainly don't blame her for that...or anything in this matter. She IS just 17, and much as I am sure she likes to think of herself as an adult, she's still a child, and she got caught up in something she didn't understand...regardless of explicit messages on her part. She's naive and in way over her head.

The proof? No one would ever use honey mustard as lube.

Wouldn't even joke about it.


Posted by: Sgt. York at June 11, 2011 10:43 AM (doQNd)

103 Congratulations, Ace - you've helped put an end to the rising career of the U.S. House of Representatives' most loudmouthed liberal assholes.

I HOPE YOU'RE HAPPY WITH YOURSELF.

Posted by: an erection lasting more than four hours at June 11, 2011 10:44 AM (1c0W9)

104
We can't wait for the actual report here? We *have* to go all the way there?

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2011 02:41 PM (nj1bB)

So, why don't you wait?  ( Instead of posting stuff like this thread )?

It seems that taking your own advice would be.......good advice.

Posted by: SantaRosaStan, calm before the Storm at June 11, 2011 10:44 AM (UqKQV)

105

When you've lost Wasserman-Schultz, you're really in bad shape. It's like losing Alan Grayson.

Posted by: dagny at June 11, 2011 10:44 AM (VeRO9)

106 If Weiner does finally resign, I hope someone with more Photoshop skillz than me puts his head on the Rock-Em Sock-Em robot getting his jaw creamed. That's what his head always reminded me of. The head on top of his neck, that is.

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at June 11, 2011 10:45 AM (2PTT7)

107 What is it with sports guys being knee jerk brain dead douchebag liberals?  Did it start with Olbermann, or is Olbermann just a natural outgrowth of teh stoopid?

Posted by: Kensington at June 11, 2011 10:45 AM (uaEZS)

108 The GIRL had nothing to worry about either way UNTIL she deleted the conversations. Now? Conspiracy, accessory to a felony, mondo deep shit...

Posted by: richard mcenroe at June 11, 2011 10:45 AM (qvify)

109 ace, stop warning us about speculating. Distract us with something shiny, instead. We'll fall for it.

Posted by: fluffy at June 11, 2011 10:46 AM (4Kl5M)

110 Dagny: some of them don't get smarter with age. I tried correcting some late20somethings on a dating site, for their spelling. They weren't appreciative. Ah well, if they want to attract dunces, then there are plenty other women who don't . . .

Posted by: Zimriel at June 11, 2011 10:46 AM (v8wYt)

111 >>>The proof? No one would ever use honey mustard as lube. See upthread. She probably did not write that. At some point you guys are going to have to accept the fact that I FUCKING KNOW MORE THAN I CAN SAY. When I tell you to drop it, I'M TELLING YOU TO DROP IT.

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2011 10:47 AM (nj1bB)

112 Who wants to play a game of hide the Weiner?!

Posted by: The DNC at June 11, 2011 10:47 AM (i0z6l)

113 "The GIRL had nothing to worry about either way UNTIL she deleted the conversations. Now? Conspiracy, accessory to a felony, mondo deep shit..."

Which she'll get immunity for if she testifies...

...she conveniently provided any prosecutor with some leverage.

Posted by: Sgt. York at June 11, 2011 10:47 AM (doQNd)

114
I may have been tempting the ban hammer, too, before I saw the warnings. Sorry.

Posted by: arhooley at June 11, 2011 10:47 AM (eNx0o)

115 Um, how about a music thread?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at June 11, 2011 10:47 AM (d0Tfm)

116 And now the bans begin. Fuck you, I asked you nicely, then I warned you, now the bans begin.

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2011 10:48 AM (nj1bB)

117

Posted by: ParanoidWorkingGirlinSeattle at June 11, 2011 02:42 PM (RZ8pf)

I don't do the social media stuff either but the Tweets could be done probably pretty quickly, a short conversation or following a blog thread. Time wise, all of this sounds like it may not have taken all that long.

All of the conversations maybe took a hundred hours or so spread over three years. If he was messaging EVERY day, hours at a time, there would have been so many more tweets available to be viewed. Not to mention, too many tweets would have drawn attention.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at June 11, 2011 10:48 AM (GKQDR)

118

*Debbie Wasserman Schultz

Debbie Wasserman Test.

Posted by: Politically Correct Squad at June 11, 2011 10:48 AM (Ew27I)

119 It's a constant face palm. One of them texted the other day that she was really glad her "softmore" year was over.

You know what's scary?  10, 20 even 30 years later, they're still acting the same way.  Why date teenage girls?  I know plenty of women whose brains stopped growing after their 16th birthday.

But then again I live in New York, so I shouldn't really be surprised.

Posted by: The Man Between The Cans at June 11, 2011 10:49 AM (TCyyS)

120 We *have* to go all the way there?

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2011 02:41 PM (nj1bB)


We can just cuddle.

Posted by: nickless at June 11, 2011 10:49 AM (MMC8r)

121

Posted by: Zimriel at June 11, 2011 02:46 PM (v8wYt)

Well their mothers regularly ask:"how many quarters in the game?"

Posted by: dagny at June 11, 2011 10:49 AM (VeRO9)

122 I'm guessing this has already been pointed out but just in case:  do you see the family lawyer for the girl called 'Ethel' by Patrick Frey/Patterico?  Daniel McElhatton.  Former city coucilman and spokesperson of some sort for new Senator Chris Coons.  A politician.  A Democratic politician.  I wonder if the family called him or he just showed up?

Posted by: East Bay Jay at June 11, 2011 10:49 AM (svwGR)

123 >>>The proof? No one would ever use honey mustard as lube.


"See upthread. She probably did not write that."

HER account was hacked?

Posted by: Sgt. York at June 11, 2011 10:49 AM (doQNd)

124
At this point I'm lost in all the social media myself and still wondering how the man had time to do Congressional work considering all the tweets and DMs and Facebook posts and whatever else. Plus phone calls?

Reports are now coming out of the woodwork that he was never a laborer. Other people crafted legislation, then he rushed the mic to take credit.

(Sound like anyone else we know?)

Posted by: arhooley at June 11, 2011 10:50 AM (eNx0o)

125

I don't think anyone will be charged with obstruction or destruction, but I do wonder what the girl's parents are advising through all this.  They don't seem to get it.  

Posted by: Beagle at June 11, 2011 10:50 AM (sOtz/)

126 1 Deleted, yeah, but that doesn't mean they're gone...or irretrievable.

Yeah, that's what i was going to say, they can probably be retrieved if the police decide to try.

Posted by: booger at June 11, 2011 10:50 AM (9RFH1)

127

At this point I'm lost in all the social media myself and still wondering how the man had time to do Congressional work considering all the tweets and DMs and Facebook posts and whatever else. 

Posted by: ParanoidWorkingGirlinSeattle at June 11, 2011 02:42 PM (RZ8pf)


He has a staff, Working Girl, he has a staff 

Posted by: Storm at June 11, 2011 10:51 AM (AZFgs)

128

Well, maybe the Congressman has one of those evolved "new media" minds that can multitask with ease. But for me, if I need to concentrate on actual "work" I have to ignore all the social media stuff or I get easily distracted and find myself a couple of horus later down a rabbit hole I never expected.

Posted by: ParanoidWorkingGirlinSeattle at June 11, 2011 10:51 AM (RZ8pf)

129
Debbie Wasserman Schultz

Her name tells her jewish constituency that she's very Jewish.

If Debbie lived in an italian district her name would be Debbie Rigatoni Lasagna. Just to make sure all the paisans know she's very italian.

Posted by: le soothsayeau at June 11, 2011 10:51 AM (maHq2)

130 Btw, "I'll help you with a ban" is some LGF shit right there. Put him on timeout, if you have to. Explain why you did it, that's fair. Snottiness? No, dude. Stuiec is good people; he doesn't deserve that.

Posted by: Zimriel at June 11, 2011 10:52 AM (v8wYt)

131

And now the bans begin.

 

Yes, oh, yes -   Bannings...

and then, The Apology!

Posted by: Wicked, Naughty Zoot at June 11, 2011 10:52 AM (k2AuH)

132 Rehab for Weiner. Who called this?

NYT reports:

At the same time, two senior Democratic officials said on Saturday that Mr. Weiner was planning to check himself into a treatment center.

Posted by: interested at June 11, 2011 10:52 AM (Vxlzu)

133 Who cares about the girl? Weiner is the adult and it seems his time is just about up.. Regardless of what he said to or die with this kid, you don't survive when all or your allies start telling you to go.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 11, 2011 10:52 AM (TMB3S)

134
HER account was hacked?
Posted by: Sgt. York at June 11, 2011 02:49 PM

She did write it, but to her BF not Weiner. And also, yes. She tweeted that her account was hacked. Draw conclusions as you will.

Posted by: arhooley at June 11, 2011 10:52 AM (eNx0o)

135 What is it with sports guys being knee jerk brain dead douchebag liberals?  Did it start with Olbermann, or is Olbermann just a natural outgrowth of teh stoopid?

Posted by: Kensington at June 11, 2011 02:45 PM (uaEZS)

It's moreso that conservative sports hosts want to talk sports. Liberal sports hosts want to be taken "seriously", and feel free to inject politics into everything they do.

 There are a few repubs in the business, but they usually don't talk politics.

Posted by: Crazee at June 11, 2011 10:52 AM (H3ujh)

136 "Deleted, yeah, but that doesn't mean they're gone...or irretrievable.

Yeah, that's what i was going to say, they can probably be retrieved if the police decide to try."

Especially if it turns out that there actually is a program that archives everything Congress tweets.

Posted by: Sgt. York at June 11, 2011 10:52 AM (doQNd)

137 Ah, we just bought coffee and my kid was sick until five in the morning.  Whasiswhosisbannedforwhazis?

Posted by: Beagle at June 11, 2011 10:52 AM (sOtz/)

138 Ace you probably should just delete this entire thread.

Posted by: Vic at June 11, 2011 10:53 AM (M9Ie6)

139
What is it with sports guys being knee jerk brain dead douchebag liberals?

I think it's the same as showbiz. Something about getting too rich too young on the basis of too little real work.

Posted by: arhooley at June 11, 2011 10:54 AM (eNx0o)

140 Rehab for Weiner. Who called this?

Snort! I did as did others. Sex "addiction". LOEffingL. There is no such thing.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at June 11, 2011 10:54 AM (bawkB)

141

"Teen deletes weinergrams." Huge clue to why Pelosi and Debbie Wasserman want him to resign today. Guess teen forgot to destroy the hardrives on the computer and phone...oopsie!

I do hope we see the deleted, but not gone, messages. However, Weiner's theme of being the "caped crusader" was enough for me. He had this rodeo down pat from habit.

Thanks, Ace. I knew the moment this "underage girl" comment came up at his weeping press conference that this was key. Many thanks to Patterico as well.

I guess even Pelosi and Democrats have a line (of cocaine) in the sand when it comes to predatory pervs and underage kids. The pics were ok, but this crossed the line of decency with them (finally).

I am hoping The Weiner stays in Congress to ensure more meltdown of Dems and a prolonged mud-wrestling. On the other hand, the moonbat Hollywood liberals will be furious about them forcing him to resign, so that will be entertaining as well. Good times.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky at June 11, 2011 10:54 AM (FnRYN)

142 What this thread needs is a montage

Posted by: Team America at June 11, 2011 10:54 AM (4Kl5M)

143 Ace you probably should just delete this entire thread.

  Not a bad idea. Maybe we could have a do-over? On second thought, it could be worse...

Posted by: Donna at June 11, 2011 10:54 AM (bdE9c)

144 A ban warning has been posted in the main post. See the main post.

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2011 10:54 AM (nj1bB)

145
Treatment center?

If you recall, Weiner specifically said he didn't have a problem -- it was just a silly stupid thing to do. Weiner said he was not gonna blame this on alcohol, drugs, etc.


Posted by: le soothsayeau at June 11, 2011 10:54 AM (maHq2)

146

He has a staff, Working Girl, he has a staff 

So we basically elect photogenic (or not in a lot of cases) figureheads who don't do the actual work we elected them to do and instead our country is now being run by 20something political staff members who make decisions while playing beer pong?

Posted by: ParanoidWorkingGirlinSeattle at June 11, 2011 10:55 AM (RZ8pf)

Posted by: BAD BRAINS at June 11, 2011 10:55 AM (k2AuH)

148 "HER account was hacked?
Posted by: Sgt. York at June 11, 2011 02:49 PM

She did write it, but to her BF not Weiner. And also, yes. She tweeted that her account was hacked. Draw conclusions as you will."

Oh, I get that she may not have been referring to the congressman with that particular text. My point was that the honey mustard thing kind of points to a naivete in that someone who isn't so naive would not have said something like that. Which is why I was saying her deletion was probably the panicked reaction of a child who got in way over her head.

Posted by: Sgt. York at June 11, 2011 10:55 AM (doQNd)

149 So skip the jailbait till the goods come out. What about Weiners other online friends:
Racy new e-mails — sent just a month ago — detail exchanges between Weiner and Traci Nobles, the 34-year-old Georgia teacher and cheerleading coach who has surfaced as his fifth sexting partner. . . .
Weiner suggested they take it to another level:
“So i will make sure to keep some time open so we can have a cyber session via skype. Does that make my hot sexy baby happy?”
(from theothermccain)

A cheerleading coach. Jeebus.

Posted by: ranger117 at June 11, 2011 10:55 AM (awwsV)

150 "Kensington at June 11, 2011 02:40 " Reading comprehension issues? Love your restaurants. Go Bears!!

Posted by: shivas Irons at June 11, 2011 10:55 AM (qu2SW)

151 >>>Btw, "I'll help you with a ban" is some LGF shit right there. Put him on timeout, if you have to. Explain why you did it, that's fair. Snottiness? No, dude. Stuiec is good people; he doesn't deserve that. I have now warned people ten fucking times.

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2011 10:55 AM (nj1bB)

152 Ace, I posted above before I saw the ban-warning. Guess I am banned but can still lurk...Adios. Thanks for all you do.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky at June 11, 2011 10:55 AM (FnRYN)

153 "There is no need to race to try to get 'in front of the evidence,' like it's the Belmont Stakes." But what if we're betting on who's gonna get banned?!

Posted by: Walter Freeman at June 11, 2011 10:56 AM (UsjBj)

154
Stuiec is good people; he doesn't deserve that.

I concur.

Posted by: le soothsayeau at June 11, 2011 10:56 AM (maHq2)

155 So we basically elect photogenic (or not in a lot of cases) figureheads who don't do the actual work we elected them to do and instead our country is now being run by 20something political staff members who make decisions while playing beer pong?

Hey! I resemble that remark! (Smiles broadly)

Posted by: Barack 'Mr. Wonderful' Obama at June 11, 2011 10:56 AM (2PTT7)

156
I'm ready to go to work bitches!

Posted by: Ban Hammer at June 11, 2011 10:57 AM (cwFVA)

157
I see what you did with the title. It's subliminal.

Posted by: sTevo at June 11, 2011 10:57 AM (VMcEw)

158 >>>She did write it, but to her BF not Weiner. And also, yes. She tweeted that her account was hacked. Draw conclusions as you will." She didn't necessarily write it. At some point you're really going to have to accept the possibility that if I, Patterico, and Verum Serum are all expressing doubt, maybe we know something.

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2011 10:57 AM (nj1bB)

159 "I guess even Pelosi and Democrats have a line (of cocaine) in the sand when it comes to predatory pervs and underage kids. The pics were ok, but this crossed the line of decency with them (finally)."

I disagree. I don't think Pelosi gives two shits about the morality of this. But she and others have seen the turning tide of public opinion and doesn't want to be seen as endorsing or tacitly approving this kind of thing. That's all she cares about.

Posted by: Sgt. York at June 11, 2011 10:57 AM (doQNd)

160
spokesperson of some sort for new Senator Chris Coons

Funny. Coons was also following the girl on Twitter.

Posted by: arhooley at June 11, 2011 10:57 AM (eNx0o)

161 I know getting rid of Weiner should be worth the permanent psychological scars I have sustained seeing his grinning skull atop his naked torso and the various other parts of his thoroughly revolting anatomy that I can't bring myself to even mention.

But I ask you morons to be honest, would it be worth living with the everlasting memory etched into your brain of a buck naked Debbie Whatsisname-Shitz just to have her banished from the halls of Congress? At least you morons have Viagra. And the Pos-T-Vac.

Posted by: jeannebodine at June 11, 2011 10:58 AM (nvlAW)

162 ">>>She did write it, but to her BF not Weiner. And also, yes. She tweeted that her account was hacked. Draw conclusions as you will."

She didn't necessarily write it.

At some point you're really going to have to accept the possibility that if I, Patterico, and Verum Serum are all expressing doubt, maybe we know something."


Interesting. Can't wait to learn these details.

Posted by: Sgt. York at June 11, 2011 10:58 AM (doQNd)

163 The whole super hero Weiner thing as previously mentioned and now the NY Times talking about Weiner only sending a picture of himself in his underwear reminds me of a badly written comic book. The writers are now attempting to retcon the Weiner story to justify a whole new storyline.

Posted by: Drew in MO at June 11, 2011 10:59 AM (RCqwe)

164 Don't mess around, people; if you get banned here you might end up being punished more severely than Anthony 'Bionic' Weiner is in this whole tawdry affair.

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at June 11, 2011 10:59 AM (2PTT7)

165 ""Kensington at June 11, 2011 02:40 "
Reading comprehension issues?"

Well, to be fair, your comment was very badly written.

Posted by: Kensington at June 11, 2011 10:59 AM (uaEZS)

166 Poor poor Tony, the evidence that it was all perfectly harmless has been deleted /sarc. But I have to wonder if reality is penetrating any new heads. Power corrupts and Rs have had scandals to --the difference is the R voters and the party kick out the offender when they get caught. The D's make endless excuses that its not that bad, everybody does it .... Now make notes of which "objective" HA media figures were making excuses vs reporting facts.

Posted by: PaleRider at June 11, 2011 11:00 AM (cQZV0)

168 Is it me, or does it seem like it was sure easy for Weiner to find a ton of women willing to hoinky boinky his doinky despite the fact that he was married?

Do liberal women have no aversion to dating married men at all?  None of them seem to show the least bit shame in their behavior.,

Posted by: The Man Between The Cans at June 11, 2011 11:00 AM (TCyyS)

169 "Kensington at June 11, 2011 02:59 PM" Weiner-like response. Off with you, lad.

Posted by: shivas Irons at June 11, 2011 11:01 AM (qu2SW)

170 Considering that Weiner is still the pathetic dork he was in high school and the only ego-boo he gets is from his prominence as a flack politician (much less any interest from women whatsoever), he will surrender that office when it is absolutely the last, last, last, last option.

He knows that without the office, he ain't shit.  More than that, now he's a disgraced perv.  He'll give it up when they pull his ass out of it.

Posted by: nickless at June 11, 2011 11:01 AM (MMC8r)

171 Rehab? 

I didn't realize "complete asshole" was a disease.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at June 11, 2011 11:01 AM (UUfHw)

172 If ace is saying shut up about it, that's like a papal decree. All will be revealed by the head ewok in time.

Posted by: twiceblessedmom at June 11, 2011 11:01 AM (HjxoE)

Posted by: SlaveDog at June 11, 2011 11:01 AM (PidTa)

174 John Nolte:          All that's missing from now is Gloria Allred. 5... 4... 3... 2...

Heh.

Posted by: Theresa D. at June 11, 2011 11:02 AM (/XWjq)

175
She didn't necessarily write it.

At some point you're really going to have to accept the possibility that if I, Patterico, and Verum Serum are all expressing doubt, maybe we know something.

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2011 02:57 PM REDACTED, and about to be banned. May 22

Argues it had nothing to do with the congresscreep, but where's the argument she didn't write it?

Posted by: arhooley at June 11, 2011 11:03 AM (eNx0o)

176 Ace: Section 230 of the CDA immunizes you for any content your users provide here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_230_of_the_Communications_Decency_Act

Posted by: gauze at June 11, 2011 11:03 AM (zMv5N)

177 Weiner headed to rehab?

  He should have tried this when the shit first hit the fan. I don't think it's going to save his job now. His ego got in the way.

Posted by: Donna at June 11, 2011 11:03 AM (bdE9c)

178 John Nolte:          All that's missing from now is Gloria Allred. 5... 4... 3... 2...

He's behind the times, Gloria Allred has already been hired to represent porn star and businesswoman extraordinaire, Ginger Lee.

Posted by: The Man Between The Cans at June 11, 2011 11:04 AM (TCyyS)

179

For Pelosi and the Dems, I also don't think it's a morality thing. I think this is just taking a lot of air time where they and their media minions could be talking up the economy and reassuring everyone that all of the current economic news isn't all bad.

Given the state of the economy, I'd think they'd welcome the scandal. CNN airs every last non-news, doesn't affect your day to day life bits it can to avoid interviewing anyone at the gas pumps.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at June 11, 2011 11:04 AM (GKQDR)

180 My problem here is that, if she turns out to be utterly innocent, then she is being victimized not just by Weiner but by US. Let. The Evidence. Speak. Or are you really totally cool with doubly victimizing someone? Just to fire off some speculations that are obvious as fucking hell? We will know in... hours. I throw the red flag on this stuff, as regards people not in the public eye. I wouldn't want this done to me. I don't want it done to other people. There are reasonable suspicions here, obviously. But your average teenager does not have suspicions about her bandied about on the internet. Let the evidence speak. The cops are already leaking. There isn't really anything to be gained by saying "FIRST!" on a suspicion. People had this suspicion 13 days ago. If you're going for "FIRST!," you're two weeks late.

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2011 11:04 AM (nj1bB)

181
Weiner thought he was really slick.

Plan A: Deny. Deny. Deny.
Plan B: I was hacked!
Plan C: Admission and tears.

 The problem with Plan C was that Weiner was still arrogant. He took full responsibility...up to the point until it effected his life with any sort of punishment.

He thought it would all finally go away with Plan C. But he was not sincere and had no intention of paying for his transgressions.

Posted by: le soothsayeau at June 11, 2011 11:04 AM (maHq2)

182 173 Such a weasely little shit. He thinks this will *actually* save him from the resignation calls.

His story has gone from hack > prank > hoax > you're a jackass > this is a distraction > ok, I fess up but let me get back to work? > you won't let me get back to work? well I'm going to rehab. > you can't fire me if you can't find me!!!1!!1!!

Posted by: laceyunderalls at June 11, 2011 11:04 AM (bawkB)

183 Do liberal women have no aversion to dating married men at all?

Marriage is an evil tool the patriarchy uses to keep women stupid and oppressed. Unless it's two guys or two women getting married, then it's a fucking awesome civil right, dammit!

At least, that's what I'm told.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at June 11, 2011 11:04 AM (UUfHw)

184 "Official last warning: Get off the girl."

OMG I DIDN'T DO NOTHING!

I gotta disease.

Posted by: Tony the Weiner at June 11, 2011 11:04 AM (uaEZS)

185

I think it is well past time to back off on this.

I would not want to see this girl or her family treated the same as Joe the Plumber was by the MBM, or the blogging community.

Posted by: GT 5.0 at June 11, 2011 11:05 AM (3W1+C)

186 arhooey, I swear to christ you are about to be gone. Did you not notice I've never printed that?

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2011 11:05 AM (nj1bB)

187 FIRST

Posted by: the slob at June 11, 2011 11:05 AM (LKYVz)

188 I never delete my porn. I just hide it in a folder, in a folder, in a folder, in a folder, in a folder, in a folder marked Windows exec. It is an impenatrable security measure.

Posted by: Mr Pink at June 11, 2011 11:06 AM (RJU5Y)

189 Weiner headed to rehab? Tony, do it!

Posted by: Amy Winehouse at June 11, 2011 11:07 AM (4Kl5M)

190 what's this rehab stuff? Will he be on that "celebrity rehab" show then? Maybe that's how he can earn money once he loses his job. From there it is a springboard to "dancing with the stars" and then he's back on top.

Posted by: ParanoidWorkingGirlinSeattle at June 11, 2011 11:07 AM (RZ8pf)

191 181 - don't forget vast right-wing conspiracy theories and Breitbart.

Posted by: twiceblessedmom at June 11, 2011 11:07 AM (HjxoE)

192
#178, for realz.  Searched it, and BG, you're right! 

Posted by: Theresa D. at June 11, 2011 11:07 AM (/XWjq)

193 MSM, Weiner who? Look over there Sarah Palins e-mails....

Posted by: Donna at June 11, 2011 11:07 AM (bdE9c)

194 arhooey, see Verum Serum's updates. You know, Verum Serum, Patterico and I are friends. We have each other's phone numbers.

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2011 11:08 AM (nj1bB)

195 His story has gone from hack > prank > hoax > you're a jackass > this is a distraction > ok, I fess up but let me get back to work? > you won't let me get back to work? well I'm going to rehab. > you can't fire me if you can't find me!!!1!!1!!

Like it's been said before: he will leave that office when they pry it from his dead, cold fingers. 

It's not just a job to him, it's his life.  Resigning office would be a death sentence.  He literally has nothing else.

Unless of course, CNN offers him his own talk show.

Posted by: The Man Between The Cans at June 11, 2011 11:08 AM (TCyyS)

196 Interesting development but I think what the host is saying, if I read it right is "this thing is in flux and no matter the outcome, irresponsible speculation is tantamount to blaming the victim" At some point poking fun at the family (likely libtards) might be funny (unlikely at best) but right this moment?........yeah,...too soon. As far as deleting stuff, I format my machines every couple of weeks and it has nothing to with being tipped to swat team sweeps cracking down on midget pron. Point being, a person could be concerned about embarrassing stuff and try to remove it as well as what may indeed be innocuous weiner stuff.

Posted by: Modgi at June 11, 2011 11:08 AM (Vrb/j)

197

If ace is saying shut up about it, that's like a papal decree.

 

 

Don't underestimate those furry little things.

Posted by: Storm Trooper with a Headache at June 11, 2011 11:09 AM (k2AuH)

198 "She didn't necessarily write it."

Ho. Lee. Shit.

I just put two and two together. Especially in light of her geographical location.

I guess I'm slow. But I'm not so stupid as to say "four", until someone officially confirms it.

Posted by: Sgt. York at June 11, 2011 11:09 AM (doQNd)

199
- don't forget vast right-wing conspiracy theories and Breitbart.

yeah, but that was put forward by the periphery. The media hacks automatically went into that mode to protect one of their own.

Posted by: le soothsayeau at June 11, 2011 11:09 AM (maHq2)

200 Can't I get a frakkin' single day off this Weiner business?

Posted by: Karma at June 11, 2011 11:09 AM (Txl/u)

201 i believe i read after that honey mustard comment she said she'd been hacked.
maybe a friend was hanging out in her room, or an ebil sibling brother.

i dunno about deleting information being some crime richard.. wouldn't that be any normal persons reaction?
would a 17 year old think she'd be committing a crime, remember she was thinking of things liek the prom.

heck i wish i could delete some comments of my own at times even on ace of spades.  many  of mine are just idiotic

and You All have the proof!

Posted by: willow at June 11, 2011 11:09 AM (h+qn8)

202 I wonder if Weiner will make a public resignation statement, and then have the nerve to take questions from the press?  Creeped me out when he did that after his apology presser.

He sure loves the spotlight.

Posted by: lan sing at June 11, 2011 11:09 AM (YHrQZ)

203 Tony is now under my care.  He's a victim of you awful right wing prudes.

Also, Barack Obama is a genius.  I've admitted that his health care bill is going to destroy my profession, quickly, but at least he's not some right wing rightwinger from the right wing.

Posted by: Dr. Drew at June 11, 2011 11:10 AM (uaEZS)

204 @ 149 thanks for that.

Sounds like Weiner used Skype.  That's where all the really lurid stuff will be.  Someone call the Judge!

Posted by: Pmzey at June 11, 2011 11:10 AM (pmzey)

205

I just went to Verum Serum and there's this from MSNBC "Tweeting down 30% on Capitol Hill in wake of Weinergate"

It made me laugh. And also wonder how the heck many other congress critters were making mischief with the social media.

Posted by: ParanoidWorkingGirlinSeattle at June 11, 2011 11:10 AM (RZ8pf)

206 I know NOTTTHINNGGGGG !!!!

Posted by: Sgt Wasserman-Schultz at June 11, 2011 11:10 AM (so1xa)

207 Two announcements, people:
#1: I resign the office of Congressman.
#2: I'm happy to announce I'm the new On-Line Etiquette columnist for the New York Times at 300k a year.

Thanks for your attention, assholes!

Posted by: Anthony 'Cocktail' Weiner at June 11, 2011 11:10 AM (2PTT7)

208 ack ok shutting up.

Posted by: willow at June 11, 2011 11:10 AM (h+qn8)

209
For Weiner, it's going to be a 12 28 42 116 step program.

Hi, my name is Tony, and I'm a serial pervert Congressman.

Posted by: Fish the Impaler at June 11, 2011 11:10 AM (cwFVA)

210 I don't know how more clearly I can say "I know something I am not at liberty to disclose" than "I know something I am not at liberty to disclose." The two guys at VS and patterico and I are all saying "hey, let's move off that tweet." Okay? We're not making this shit up. There are good reasons to doubt, and therefore good reason to be cautious. Am I 100% sure of what I'm writing now? No, I'm not. I am telling you there is a plausible reason for doubt, and that plausible reason for doubt should result in the dirty text not being relied upon as evidence of the girl's state of mind, but only as evidence of WEINER's state of mind.

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2011 11:10 AM (nj1bB)

211 Dude I'm so fucking lost. Wtf is going on? Wait don't tell me you might get banned.

Posted by: Mr Pink at June 11, 2011 11:10 AM (RJU5Y)

212 It seems like the more this goes on that this marriage is phoney. Really, she knew about this and 1. Didn't try to stop it for political reasons, and 2. Married him anyway, and 3. Got knocked up by him??? Or is she that muslim, where the man gets to do anything and they don't get to say anything??

Posted by: dagny at June 11, 2011 11:10 AM (VeRO9)

213 Tony, do it! Bollocks, that was supposed to don't do it!

Posted by: Amy Winehouse needs a drink at June 11, 2011 11:11 AM (4Kl5M)

214 I'm kinda new to blogland so excuse me if I don't completely understand but how is us discussing about this girl and her parents harming the girl? We're not camping on her lawn or publishing her address or combing through her dumpster. I'm not being snarky here, I'm really not clear.

Posted by: jeannebodine at June 11, 2011 11:11 AM (nvlAW)

215
arhooey, I swear to christ you are about to be gone.

Did you not notice I've never printed that?
Posted by: ace at June 11, 2011 03:05 PM

No I did not! But wtf?

if I, Patterico, and Verum Serum are all expressing doubt, maybe we know something.

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2011 02:57 PM

So verumserum is a reliable source, but he must not be copy-pasted? I give up, I'm outta this thread.

Posted by: arhooley at June 11, 2011 11:11 AM (eNx0o)

216
maybe a Revenge Movie post would be nice right about now...

Posted by: le soothsayeau at June 11, 2011 11:12 AM (maHq2)

217 211 Don't speculate about the girl. Ace knows something which will be confirmed by the media in short order because the cops are leaking. He would prefer that the girl not be compromised in opinion because that will just cause embarassment when the actual data is revealed. Get it?? And it's not nice to speculate about children anyway.

Posted by: dagny at June 11, 2011 11:13 AM (VeRO9)

218 wow so Weiners acct might have been hacked re Verum serum?

Posted by: willow at June 11, 2011 11:13 AM (h+qn8)

219 Can I still call Huma a gold digging power hungry Hillary clone?

Posted by: Mr Pink at June 11, 2011 11:13 AM (RJU5Y)

220 "maybe a Revenge Movie post would be nice right about now..."

"Taken" is still my favorite of the genre.

Posted by: Sgt. York at June 11, 2011 11:13 AM (doQNd)

221 Good, arhooley, that's for the best.

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2011 11:13 AM (nj1bB)

222 When Weiner gives his resignation speech, will Breitbart get to warm up the audience again?

Seems appropriate. Neither explicit nor indecent, but appropriate.

Posted by: SlaveDog at June 11, 2011 11:14 AM (PidTa)

223 i'm lost, i guess i'll wait for verification of whatever.

Posted by: willow at June 11, 2011 11:14 AM (h+qn8)

224 I so enjoy Breitbart's opening act.

Posted by: dagny at June 11, 2011 11:14 AM (VeRO9)

225

Dude I'm so fucking lost. Wtf is going on?

Wait don't tell me you might get banned.

 

EXACTLY! Someone spell out WTF is going on in a non banworthy manner.

Posted by: Max Power at June 11, 2011 11:15 AM (q177U)

226 "don't know how more clearly I can say "I know something I am not at liberty to disclose" than "I know something I am not at liberty to disclose.""

I don't get it.  It's like you know something but for some reason you aren't at liberty to tell us.

Cool!  What is it?

Posted by: Kensington at June 11, 2011 11:15 AM (uaEZS)

227
Taken was good.

but...Law Abiding Citizen > Taken.

Posted by: le soothsayeau at June 11, 2011 11:15 AM (maHq2)

228

And it's not nice to speculate about children anyway.

Except the retarded ones.

Posted by: Andrew Sullivan, Uterus Gumshoe at June 11, 2011 11:16 AM (Txl/u)

229 How do you tell a blonde is having a bad day? She has a tampon behind her ear and she can't find her pencil.

Posted by: Mr Pink at June 11, 2011 11:16 AM (RJU5Y)

230 It seems like the more this goes on that this marriage is phoney.

Didn't we have a whole thread about that the week it happened?

Posted by: HeatherRadish at June 11, 2011 11:16 AM (UUfHw)

231

>>> Sounds like Weiner used Skype.  That's where all the really lurid stuff will be.  Someone call the Judge!

 

Would Skype have records like that?  Do they keep records of what is essentially a phone call?

Posted by: Roadking at June 11, 2011 11:16 AM (i0z6l)

232 "Any of you boys seen an aircraft-carrier around here?

Posted by: Lt PM at June 11, 2011 11:16 AM (ucq49)

233 ew

Posted by: willow at June 11, 2011 11:17 AM (h+qn8)

234 If the Twits don't fit you must acquit!

Posted by: Johnny Cochran ESQ at June 11, 2011 11:17 AM (Q8eRK)

235 People have skype sex so I seriously doubt it's recorded?

Posted by: dagny at June 11, 2011 11:17 AM (VeRO9)

236

Isn't the legal age of consent in most states like 16?

 

Posted by: Rodent Liberation Front at June 11, 2011 11:18 AM (lgw0N)

237 OK I can get the kid, but we can't speculate about the parents either? Haven't we been Weiner-speculating for weeks?

Posted by: jeannebodine at June 11, 2011 11:18 AM (nvlAW)

238 Did Ace predict rehab?  I can't remember.

Maybe he should be at the Weiner resignation speech, too.  Kind of like an interpreter for the MSM. 

Posted by: SlaveDog at June 11, 2011 11:18 AM (PidTa)

239 Posted by: dagny at June 11, 2011 03:10 PM (VeRO9)

Huma's behavior has really been odd.  She doesn't say anything and then she just leaves the country, and mention of her pregnancy hasn't been from her but from people close to her, and she's practically stiched to Hillary's pantsuit.

This is just truly bizarre behavior by a whole lot of people.  I think I'm gonna just disappear into World of Warcraft for a while till this blows over, hang out some normal folks for once.

Posted by: The Man Between The Cans at June 11, 2011 11:18 AM (TCyyS)

240 is skype like twitter?
forget it i'll look it up.

Posted by: willow at June 11, 2011 11:18 AM (h+qn8)

241

but...Law Abiding Citizen > Taken.

"It's going to be Biblical...."

Great line.  That was some very hardcore revenge going on there.

Posted by: Roadking at June 11, 2011 11:19 AM (i0z6l)

242 Skype is a phone call that uses the computer camera. You can see the other person.

Posted by: dagny at June 11, 2011 11:20 AM (VeRO9)

243 @ roadking I don't think the call is recorded (could be wrong though)  but there is a chat component to it as well where they probably chatted and could link things that for sure could be dug back up. 

Note: I am noting Skype as a general tool he probably used with many of the women.

Posted by: Pmzey at June 11, 2011 11:20 AM (pmzey)

244 Carefully being careful, and unobtrusively being noncommital.

Posted by: The Great Stan's Ghost at June 11, 2011 11:21 AM (08Pe8)

245

Rodent Liberation Front

Dude!

Posted by: MDr at June 11, 2011 11:21 AM (ucq49)

246

OK I can get the kid, but we can't speculate about the parents either? Haven't we been Weiner-speculating for weeks?

Weiner is a public figure so YES.

The parents and the kid are private citizens so NO.

Posted by: Roadking at June 11, 2011 11:21 AM (i0z6l)

247

The key question is: Did Anthony Weiner get the girl to delete the messages?

Twitter keeps a copy of every message sent through its system. It should be trivial for police to retrieve those messages. All they need to do is ask for a search warrant and Twitter will gladly retrieve every message sent by, or sent to, Anthony Weiner.

We know Weiner was coaching OTHER of his Twitter gals how to mislead the press. Now, we need to know whether he was obstructing justice by conspiring with others to delete evidence.

Posted by: someguy at June 11, 2011 11:21 AM (iIQ0a)

248 Well, I'm weinered out till there is more official news, so.........
can we have a pool on when/if Perry's getting in the race?

Posted by: ranger117 at June 11, 2011 11:22 AM (awwsV)

249 Thanks Dagny. wow that's pretty amazing.

Posted by: willow at June 11, 2011 11:22 AM (h+qn8)

250 Aaaaahhhh, now it's punching red. Make it stop, make it stop!!!!!!!

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at June 11, 2011 11:23 AM (YHYRV)

251 Ace should go to the resignation press conference. They'll HAVE to ask the Ewok a few questions. Plus, while he's in Washington, he can visit Marco Rubio.

Posted by: Crazee at June 11, 2011 11:23 AM (H3ujh)

252 Why should we protect the girl? She is seventeen and will be voting within a year; she is far from a child. The left will do whatever it takes to destroy its political enemies. As long as we insist on fighting with both hands behind our backs we will be at a disadvantage. Play by their rules, do unto them as the would do unto you.

Posted by: Old grizzled gym coach at June 11, 2011 11:23 AM (QBQcg)

253 Fox is reporting that Weiner has requested a leave of absence from Congress.  How do you take a leave of absence from that? 

Posted by: mama winger at June 11, 2011 11:23 AM (R9bQ9)

254 Can we at least talk shit about ace's awful movie reviews?

Although...I have to give the furry guy credit for "Sherlock." That was excellent.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 11, 2011 11:23 AM (LH6ir)

255 SEE UPDATE, it's a very good point.

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2011 11:24 AM (nj1bB)

256 251 - Keep that crazy ewok away from me and my trash!

Posted by: Marco Rubio at June 11, 2011 11:24 AM (HjxoE)

257

Dude!

Posted by: MDr at June 11, 2011 03:21 PM (ucq49)

How's it going?

Long time, no read.

Posted by: Rodent Liberation Front at June 11, 2011 11:24 AM (lgw0N)

258

We use Skype to talk to the parents in CO - it's very cool.  They get to see their grand daughter etc...

And yes I realize that people use Skype for other things *ahem* but it seems like it would be a lot of data to try to store because of the video componet but I'm not sure.

Posted by: Roadking at June 11, 2011 11:25 AM (i0z6l)

259

OK I can get the kid, but we can't speculate about the parents either? Haven't we been Weiner-speculating for weeks?

Weiner is a public figure so YES.

The parents and the kid are private citizens so NO.

But the comely coed and the blackjack dealer and......

Posted by: jeannebodine at June 11, 2011 11:25 AM (nvlAW)

260 From what I understand the really dirty tweet on ethyl's Twitter act was probably not written by her. Teens think it is funny to write embarrassing things on each others walls when their friends leave their Facebook or Twitter acts logged in. The dirty tweet was likely an example of this behavior. On my part, this is just speculation, but ace might have inside info. Weiner, however, might have acted upon the tweet, not realizing it was a prank.

Posted by: lauren at June 11, 2011 11:25 AM (RWo59)

261 Skype is a multi-function app, folks: text based chat, voice only or video; one-on-one or groups. ISPs wouldn't capture voice or video streams, but could likely confirm the initiation of such network traffic between specific IPs.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at June 11, 2011 11:25 AM (UsjBj)

262
if Boehner agrees to a leave of absence...


Boehner should say, "Sure, Tony, you want to take a leave? Fine. Resign."

Posted by: le soothsayeau at June 11, 2011 11:25 AM (maHq2)

263

Can we get past Weinergate already? 

There ARE other political news stories out there ya know...

 

 

Posted by: Newt Gingrich at June 11, 2011 11:26 AM (qIyPa)

264

About Weiner's rehab?

Rehab for what? What's he going into rehab for? If he didn't have sex with any of the women and it was all Twitter, then it's not rehab for sex addiction. He said he didn't have an alcohol problem.

We all know rehab is one of the last resorts for public scandals. But rehab for what in Weiner's case?

Impure thoughts? Bad camera lighting? Obvious double entendres?

 

and I'm not sure if people here care about spelling in titles but the title should be "Conversations Deleted", not "Coversations Deleted".

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at June 11, 2011 11:26 AM (GKQDR)

265 Posted by: Old grizzled gym coach at June 11, 2011 03:23 PM (QBQcg)

Agreed, when it comes to public figures. But the girl and her parents are private figures. They may be vile people, but are not in the arena with our public officials. We have to respect their privacy because we aren't amoral cocksucking pieces of shit like some on the left.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 11, 2011 11:26 AM (LH6ir)

266 he can visit Marco Rubio. Marco Rubio's garbage. Fify

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at June 11, 2011 11:26 AM (YHYRV)

267 Gabe's got a good point. That is something Weiner would totally do. That just screams cape and tights and shit. And also CYA.

Posted by: twiceblessedmom at June 11, 2011 11:27 AM (HjxoE)

268 Leave of absence? WTF!Perfect ploy if he can get away with it. In my opinion the House Republicans better get their asses in gear and throw this bum out.

Posted by: Donna at June 11, 2011 11:27 AM (bdE9c)

269 Skype is a Godsend for us  military families.  We can see each other and talk live in a real conversation from across the globe.  The Christmas before last, we Skyped opening our stockings, us in Wisconsin and the kid in Baghdad. 

Posted by: mama winger at June 11, 2011 11:27 AM (R9bQ9)

270 Old grizzled gym coach, Why thank you! I'm always interested in hearing cranky old bastards instruct me on how I should run my business!!!! Awesome! Got any other hints, dude? I sure could have used your sage wisdom when I was breaking everything on this story and getting everything right. Maybe you could have informed me how to be wrong earlier? That really would have helped the story, me getting things wrong, making the story stop in its tracks as media shifted to "how rightwing blogs screwed up"? Thanks so much! You keep your little pointers coming! Because obviously I have NO IDEA what I'm talking about or doing here! Let's forget that I've told you everything that was going to happen, in advance, from "private security firm" to "sex rehab." No, let's go with your genius "Let's just be awful to people because the left would do likewise" suggestion! Let's just totally go with misinformation and errors! That'll work out wonderfully!

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2011 11:27 AM (nj1bB)

271 So the Comely Co-ed was a public figure. I get it.

Posted by: jeannebodine at June 11, 2011 11:27 AM (nvlAW)

272
And like a NY Congressman, here I am back. Must be some sort of self-destructive impulse, and I'll be checking into rehab after this one thing:

Deleting tweets from an account is one thing. Deleting them from a computer is another. I call attention to the quote at the top of the thread.

Posted by: arhooley at June 11, 2011 11:28 AM (eNx0o)

273 Posted by: Roadking at June 11, 2011 03:25 PM (i0z6l)

Skype stores text messages. Look at the bottom of the screen. You can choose how far back you want to go, but I have been using it for years and I can still see my first conversation.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 11, 2011 11:28 AM (LH6ir)

274 Leave of absence????

Posted by: Vic at June 11, 2011 11:29 AM (M9Ie6)

275 >>Fox is reporting that Weiner has requested a leave of absence from Congress.  How do you take a leave of absence from that? <<

Maybe he wants to keep his job so that the rehab is paid for by his Congressional Health Care Plan.  (Also referred to as us.)

Just a thought.

Posted by: SlaveDog at June 11, 2011 11:29 AM (PidTa)

276 Ok, who knows whether this dickhead weiner gets  his pension if he tenders his resignation?
If he does, how do we, the peeps, stop giving a pension to the public perp?

Posted by: ShameTheShameless at June 11, 2011 11:29 AM (dh5Eu)

277 If he takes he takes leave, wouldn't just be FMLA like most places? Or not since congress has their own health thingy?

Posted by: ranger117 at June 11, 2011 11:29 AM (awwsV)

278 I'm a genius, from yesterday's thread:

80 This looks bad for Weiner.  Prediction?  Girl deleted incriminating messages.  Tells her parents nothing is going on, parents regurgitate info to media.  Police find incriminating messages.  Anthony goes to PMITA prison in Delaware.

Posted by: Pirate of the Perineum at June 11, 2011 03:15 AM (ZRN7N)


Posted by: Pirate of the Perineum at June 11, 2011 11:29 AM (ZRN7N)

279 Update shows more reasons why Anthony's computer is the one they should be looking at.

Posted by: Pmzey at June 11, 2011 11:29 AM (pmzey)

280 Oh and by the way, I'm loving having to babysit this thread instead of actually getting updates on the story! Gee, if only I had ten sources I could be calling right now. Oh wait I do, but I can't call them, because I have to keep arguing with people that we should let the evidence speak as to a seventeen year old girl's actions, rather than freely speculating about it as if she's some inhuman abstraction about whom we should not have a care!

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2011 11:30 AM (nj1bB)

281 I called it in a previous thread - Weiner is gone by tonight or early Sunday AM. If he refuses, then would the Dems try to censure and/or expel one of their own????? We're gonna need the John C. Holmes-sized popcorn bucket, kids. Pudding flavored, of course.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 11, 2011 11:30 AM (UlUS4)

282

RE: Super Update

"If Weiner deleted the Tweets on his side, they would also disappear from the girl's account."

He can only delete them from his local cache.

Twitter keeps copies of everything. They are required to by law. Everything he ever received or sent on Twitter via DM is subpoenable by the police investigators and Twitter will happily turn it all over to them if presented with a proper warrant.

The mere act of deleting thee Tweets is itself evidence of a criminal conspiracy on the part of Anthony Weiner to obstruct justice.

It is always the cover-up. It is NEVER the crime.

Posted by: someguy at June 11, 2011 11:30 AM (iIQ0a)

283 Something I learned from the McCarthyite chickenfuckers' Palin-email-witch-hunt is that it's illegal for Government officials to delete emails from their official Government accounts. Is Weiner's Twitter account considered property of Congress, and if it is, would the same law apply? In that same vein, if there was illegal activity on his part, wouldn't deleting the tweets be obstruction of justice?

Posted by: ol_dirty_/b/tard at June 11, 2011 11:30 AM (7o9oJ)

284 Ergo, she didn't necessarily delete anything. Weiner might have helpfully deleted them on her behalf.

If that's what the police found out, would they pursue info from Twitter's servers (since this could  amount to the perp destroying evidence)?  How interested are local cops about this case?

Posted by: nickless at June 11, 2011 11:30 AM (MMC8r)

285 This thread reminds me of that story in the Bible about Adam and Eve. God told 'em they could live in paradise and do whatever they wanted, with one exception: Don't eat the apples.

Posted by: delmar at June 11, 2011 11:30 AM (d9sox)

286 But, but, but he's sick. We must have compassion for him and his "family."We'll just give him some time for treatment. Nothing to see here move along....

Posted by: Donna at June 11, 2011 11:31 AM (bdE9c)

287
Weiner's computer just called me and said, "Great news, I'm pregnant! Now leave me alone and respect my privacy."

Posted by: le soothsayeau at June 11, 2011 11:31 AM (maHq2)

288 In Pennsylvania, you only have to serve one term in the legislature and that entitles you to a full state pension and all accompanying benefits.

Posted by: jeannebodine at June 11, 2011 11:32 AM (nvlAW)

289 Weiner is treatment bound!  Jeez Louise. 

Posted by: Pmzey at June 11, 2011 11:32 AM (pmzey)

290 >>> So the Comely Co-ed was a public figure. I get it. Can you tell me which news-breaking blog or media organ you write for? You seem to know an awful lot about this business, and I know so damn little. Can you tell me more? Please, I've only been doing this for seven years. Please instruct me further about how you would be handling things. Oh wait I've got a great idea --www.blogspot.com. Why don't you show me?

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2011 11:32 AM (nj1bB)

291 I agree that calling the 17yo a "child" is not right - if she had knocked over a 7-11 instead we would not be rushing to defend her "youthful innocence". She is a minor but not a "child".

Posted by: chemjeff at June 11, 2011 11:32 AM (4BOhj)

292 I think people need to recognize what "speculation" means: Any guessing about the girl, what she did, what she sent, what others sent to her, whether she is the author of any particular message, what she was feeling, what she was thinking, why she did anything she's alleged to have done, whether any of the things she might have done are crimes, etc. It also means, don't speculate about her friends or her family. Don't guess about them. And if you know something about them? Don't print it here. It includes speculating that the girl did NOT do something bad. Just don't write about her or her family or her situation or her connection to Rep Weiner. Please respect Ace, or get banhammered.

Posted by: Daryl Herbert at June 11, 2011 11:32 AM (6YReu)

293 "Oh and by the way, I'm loving having to babysit this thread instead of actually getting updates on the story!"

Silly blogger.  You should outsource this to your readers!

Posted by: The Washington Post AND The New York Times at June 11, 2011 11:33 AM (uaEZS)

294 wait, what is going on?  is he resigning or not?

Posted by: ShameTheShameless at June 11, 2011 11:33 AM (dh5Eu)

295 Skype also has awesome gaming addons.  When you're not in the mood for much chatting, you can pick from an array of games to play with whoever you're skyping with.  I do it all the time with a Russian lady friend.  She always beats my ass in chess but I stomp hers in tic tac toe.

Side note:  Russians are far less communist than our American liberals are.

Posted by: The Man Between The Cans at June 11, 2011 11:33 AM (TCyyS)

296

Posted by: Rodent Liberation Front at June 11, 2011 03:24 PM (lgw0N)

I gave you a shout out at the VBH site awhile back, but ...... Like most of the other unappreciated, heckled vets, I moved on.

Posted by: MDr at June 11, 2011 11:33 AM (ucq49)

297 Ace, you couldn't get a co-blogger to watch the thread for you?

 BTW, bringing up the Co-Ed isn't a fair comparison. She made public statements that had to be responded to, in order to get to the truth. Also, the story was being blacked out at the time. Our questions were instructive and useful. Right now, that isn't the case. If we get suspicious results from any analysis, we can deconstruct that. But there's nothing more to be said that wasn't said in last night's topic.

 

Posted by: Crazee at June 11, 2011 11:34 AM (H3ujh)

298

I didn't realize "complete asshole" was a disease.

Tragically, there is no known cure. The best that can be hoped for is to manage it. It may appear to go into remission, but it's a sneaky disease; it always manages to return with a vengeance.

Symptoms are an inability to process information accurately, emotional outbursts directed toward an innocent party, and the spontaneous creation of crocodile tears at a press conference.

Won't you help us by donating to Politicians Anonymous? Your donation is fully tax deductible and goes toward the purchase of cluebats, Rush 24/7 subscriptions and books by Ann Coulter and Glenn Beck for those stricken with this horrible affliction, often in the prime of their careers.

Can we count on your support?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at June 11, 2011 11:34 AM (d0Tfm)

299

All govt emails are automatically saved. HOWEVER, there is intrawashington scandal that many are using their own email accounts even for govt business to avoid the autosave/audit. There is even scandal that many of out whitehouse employees have been having meetings at restaurants to avoid the whole signing into the white house log thing. I'm sure he used his own account since he knew that all govt email is saved and often audited and pinged for pron words.

Posted by: dagny at June 11, 2011 11:35 AM (LOIFF)

300 I have been using it for years and I can still see my first conversation.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 11, 2011 03:28 PM (LH6ir)

Do you mean the texting portion or that you can replay a video conversation?  We use it but we just started so I'm pretty new to it.

Posted by: Roadking at June 11, 2011 11:35 AM (i0z6l)

301 Jeezlouise, Ace, I was responding to others about the parents not you. If you read my earlier post, I was really looking for clarification.

Posted by: jeannebodine at June 11, 2011 11:36 AM (nvlAW)

302
Did you know...

Anthony Weiner is not a lawyer?


Posted by: le soothsayeau at June 11, 2011 11:36 AM (maHq2)

303 Bah, I'll wait until the dust settles, but I hope someone will lay out the full story afterwards.  The confusion over the ban stick is making it hard to follow.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at June 11, 2011 11:36 AM (cSkZ5)

304 295 - Lenin only wishes he could have been as good a communist as any of the left wing loons.

Posted by: twiceblessedmom at June 11, 2011 11:36 AM (HjxoE)

305 Anyone wanna cyber?  Your pic for my pic.

Posted by: Anthony Weiner at June 11, 2011 11:36 AM (ZRN7N)

306
that's why Weiner won't resign -- he has no place to go

Posted by: le soothsayeau at June 11, 2011 11:36 AM (maHq2)

307 In Pennsylvania, you only have to serve one term in the legislature and that entitles you to a full state pension and all accompanying benefits.

Are you fucking kidding me.  My current job I have to work 30 years and can't even collect until I'm 65.  So that's 40 years before I see a single penny of a pension.  I'm in the wrong fucking business.

Posted by: The Man Between The Cans at June 11, 2011 11:36 AM (TCyyS)

308 If there's nothing to see here because, as Weiner's spokesman claims Weiner claims, Weiner's tweets to this minor were neither explicit nor indecent, why are Democrats crawling out of the woodwork to call on Weiner to resign today?  Nancy Pelosi looks like a fool, changing her mind overnight, and Weiner's gonna go to rehab after saying I won't go.

Posted by: cinyc at June 11, 2011 11:37 AM (+yryi)

309 By the way, the parents made public comments.

Posted by: jeannebodine at June 11, 2011 11:37 AM (nvlAW)

310

Hi Ace, 

The over-all story line involves the most salacious subject matter admitted and in full public purview - probably ever to involve a sitting U.S. House Representative.

There are numerous cached photos and electronic messages that have been produced on social network sites that have subsequently been provided inside the public domain.

Congressman Weiner is not denying the existence nor the authenticity of any of the aforestated which now in the public domain.

Now there is an official law enforcement investigation involving an individual that is a female aged 17 years whose parents have corroborated electronic messaging between their daughter and U.S. Congressman Anthony Weiner.

At this point in time, tangential speculation relative to the velocity of the storyline and stated subject matter are legally fair game, minor or no minor.

However, I do want to hat tip my respect for you in setting down parameters in re. the latest allegation, one involving an underaged person.

Legally though, we are well inside the law as respects free speech balanced against commentary and storyline speculation, at this point.  A point in which we have full frontal nudity, a cache of suggestive photos, sexualized banter and double entendre between Congressman Weiner, a college co-ed, porn star, card dealer and countless other women. 

All of the above form the basis and foundation for an investigation under way in Delaware... an investigation which could likely lead to a grand jury. 

This is some ugly shit and more will be coming out.

Just be careful that an inflexible commentary embargo doesn't become the blog's subtext here. 

Posted by: Journolist at June 11, 2011 11:38 AM (QM8jX)

311 Leave of absense means rehab. God help us.

Posted by: dagny at June 11, 2011 11:38 AM (LOIFF)

312

>>> wait, what is going on?  is he resigning or not?

 

Right now it's a Death of a Congressional Career death watch, if you will.

Posted by: Roadking at June 11, 2011 11:38 AM (i0z6l)

313 "Ergo, she didn't necessarily delete anything. Weiner might have helpfully deleted them on her behalf." I'm confused. If you reply to a DM and later that person deletes it on their account, you will no longer see the reply you wrote on your account? I'm not even sure what I just asked.

Posted by: Joanie (Oven Gloves) at June 11, 2011 11:38 AM (y/+eD)

314
Come on, now, I know all of you assumed Weiner was a lawyer.

Posted by: le soothsayeau at June 11, 2011 11:38 AM (maHq2)

315 re: skype while it's unlikely that the entire selection of video footage would be floating around on either of their hard drives... there is a possiblity that snippets of them are still recoverable from the drive...

Posted by: phil at June 11, 2011 11:38 AM (QzdcC)

316 295 - Lenin only wishes he could have been as good a communist as any of the left wing loons.

The worst communists in the world are the ones who have never actually LIVED in a communist country.  When I met my friend the only nice thing she had to say about Russia was opera.  LOL

Posted by: The Man Between The Cans at June 11, 2011 11:39 AM (TCyyS)

317 Looks like Ace is having his weekly snit. Automatic bans? Way to go, Charles.

I'm done with this site.

Posted by: Bordo at June 11, 2011 11:39 AM (4Ao1L)

318 Evidently Weiner promised to go to re-hab to Nancy and she felt free to call for his "resignation." knowing this. Being "sick" he thinks allows him to avoid it by taking a leave of absence to "heal."Makes me furious to think he will actually be able to pull this off.

Posted by: Donna at June 11, 2011 11:40 AM (bdE9c)

319 316 - That's too funny. And a very true statement about communists.

Posted by: twiceblessedmom at June 11, 2011 11:40 AM (HjxoE)

320 "WEINER SEEKS SEX HELP" You gotta love Drudge.

Posted by: shivas Irons at June 11, 2011 11:40 AM (qu2SW)

321 >>>I'm confused. If you reply to a DM and later that person deletes it on their account, you will no longer see the reply you wrote on your account? Yes. I think Twitter would still have them, though. But the point is the girl didn't necessarily delete a thing. Can't assume "the guilty mind" on her part.

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2011 11:40 AM (nj1bB)

322 On the sports guys being left-wing assholes front ... couple points

1) Many go to j-school. Journalism school is almost as left-wing as ed-school.
2) Many are based in the Northeast corridor, which is overwhelmingly left-wing.

ESPN is based in Connecticut, where everybody hates Palin and casual jokes about Palin and teabaggers are considered normal.

A lot of left-wing osmosis happens, even to people who don't start out as left-wing assholes.

One of my college buddies went to j-school at Berkeley and has been a media guy in NYC since then. He went from pretty apolitical to a massive left-wing asshole. We barely even talk now. Being an outspoken left-wing dick hasn't hurt his media career one bit either.

Posted by: Clubber Lang at June 11, 2011 11:41 AM (QcFbt)

323 "If Weiner deleted the Tweets on his side, they would also disappear from the girl's account."

From the account, but not from her hard drive, depending on how she accessed twitter.  Also, they are probably still on Twitter's backup tapes.

One final point, you can only delete posts you make. You can't delete posts someone else makes, so her side of any conversation would still exist.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at June 11, 2011 11:41 AM (cSkZ5)

324 Discussing the case is fair game, but there has been a lot of harsh commentary on the girl. Instead of taking a scalpel and trying to show what shouldn't be said, it's easier just to say "avoid all speculation".

 Seriously, it was going a little overboard. I was mocking the parents, but at this point...I'm willing to just wait it out.

Posted by: Crazee at June 11, 2011 11:42 AM (H3ujh)

325

#313

I'm not even sure what I just asked.

I resemble that remark.

Posted by: ABBO at June 11, 2011 11:42 AM (XEwY1)

326 why are Democrats crawling out of the woodwork to call on Weiner to resign today?
According to an unnamed Dem source to NBC, the coordinated calls for resignation came when weiner decided to seek treatment.

Posted by: ranger117 at June 11, 2011 11:42 AM (awwsV)

327 One final point, you can only delete posts you make. You can't delete posts someone else makes, so her side of any conversation would still exist.

With DMs I think you can.

Posted by: rdbrewer at June 11, 2011 11:42 AM (ocecp)

328 >>>Looks like Ace is having his weekly snit. Automatic bans? Way to go, Charles. >>>I'm done with this site Good, I just put in the ban to make it irrevocable. I am sick to fucking death of arrogant, useless cocksuckers instructing me on what I must do. AS IF THIS IS YOUR FUCKING BUSINESS. Fucking communist attitude. Last time I checked, it's my handle at the top of the page, and I'm the one doing the writing on this, not fucking "Bordo." goodbye.

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2011 11:42 AM (nj1bB)

329 I apologize.........I apologize.......I apologize

Posted by: that guy with smallpox in 'Deadwood' at June 11, 2011 11:43 AM (UqKQV)

330 I'm still trying to figure out "rehab."  Guy's a douchebag.  There's nothing physiological about that. 

What he means is he's going to go sit in a spa (most likely at our expense) somewhere until this all blows over.

What a fucking asshole.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at June 11, 2011 11:43 AM (UUfHw)

331 OT to cut the tension:  Heard a Kohl's commercial in which a rabid honey badger was invoked.  I was so proud. 

Posted by: pep at June 11, 2011 11:43 AM (6TB1Z)

332 "If you reply to a DM and later that person deletes it on their account, you will no longer see the reply you wrote on your account?

Yes. I think Twitter would still have them, though"

I don't think that is right Ace.  If someone deletes a DM sent to me, I still see my DM reply in Oosfora.  They are locally cached at a minimum.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at June 11, 2011 11:43 AM (cSkZ5)

333 Anthony accidentally spilled a latte on his computer so the only reasonable thing to do was smash the hard drive and dump the laptop in a dumpster behind Five Guys. 

Posted by: Pmzey at June 11, 2011 11:43 AM (pmzey)

334 Posted by: ace at June 11, 2011 03:40 PM (nj1bB) Thanks. Think I get it now.

Posted by: Joanie (Oven Gloves) at June 11, 2011 11:44 AM (y/+eD)

335 Heather, my thoughts exactly.

Posted by: Donna at June 11, 2011 11:44 AM (bdE9c)

Posted by: Michael Asher at June 11, 2011 11:44 AM (+c2Tb)

337 I'm also disturbed by a "staffer" becoming Schumer's annointed replacement. Shouldn't new representatives come out of the community and not the old politician's forehead like Zeus? It becomes heriditary. It's wrong and it's weird.

Posted by: dagny at June 11, 2011 11:44 AM (LOIFF)

338 Are you fucking kidding me.

I don't know if he is fucking kidding you, but I believe what he is referring to is how long you must be employed before your pension "vests."  If  it's 5 years, if you leave at 4, there is no pension. If you leave at 5 years, how much you actually receive, depends on a forumula of  salary at time employment ended X years of employment and then age at retirement is factored in. If you retire early, your pension is reduced.

Posted by: mike at June 11, 2011 11:45 AM (eZ5Jk)

339

The grease for the story pivots is being set right now.  Rehab.

Resignation has to be the only option here.

Posted by: Journolist at June 11, 2011 11:45 AM (QM8jX)

340 Posted by: Donna at June 11, 2011 03:40 PM (bdE9c) Leave of absence? Hell, with all the Twitter deletions, that could be evidence tampering. And a crime. I'd suggest he take his leave where he'd be most at home - Cuba, where he can play sub to Assata Shakur. There's always Thailand, but the extradite.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 11, 2011 11:45 AM (UlUS4)

341

I don't get it.  Thread topic says "co(n)versations deleted" but the "ban warning" says speculating about 'sources' saying the conversations were deleted is not OK. 

 

Posted by: Beagle at June 11, 2011 11:46 AM (sOtz/)

342 Ah, Bordo, we hardly knew ye.'

Posted by: Bugler at June 11, 2011 11:46 AM (VXBR1)

343 Looks like Ace is having his weekly snit.

You know what?  Ace has been at the forefront of this story since it first broke.  He has been indefatigable and relentless.  He hasn't showered in at least eleventy days and his diet the last two weeks has consisted of stale trail mix and flat Romanian beer.  If he says don't talk about it, I think the least we can do to show our respect to him for all that he has done in regards to this story is to shut the heck up for a day on the arents-pay and the udent-say.

He doesn't ask much of us and we usually don't even meet THAT minimum requirement.  If he says stop, why can't you just stop?

Posted by: mama winger at June 11, 2011 11:46 AM (R9bQ9)

344 Rehab Gambit! Get Your Rehab Gambit Here!

Posted by: Rehab Gambit Vendor at June 11, 2011 11:46 AM (GfhFm)

345 #336, It's the staffer that do all the work anyway. Look at Giffords. She's been gone since Jan. No replacement. These arrogant Politicians are nothing but preening figureheads. And where may I ask is Boehner? For Cripes sake man say something!

Posted by: Donna at June 11, 2011 11:47 AM (bdE9c)

346 "With DMs I think you can."

I'm not 100%, but I don't think so.  DMs aren't a "conversation", they are single tweets readable only by sender and recipient.  They don't know about "replies".  I can delete a DM I send to you, and then neither of us can read it, but if you "reply" to it, all you are doing is sending a standalone DM to me.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at June 11, 2011 11:47 AM (cSkZ5)

347 Mama Winger, Gordo has gone to that turd-packed septic tank in the sky. And by sky I mean New Jersey.

Posted by: CAC at June 11, 2011 11:47 AM (2KSfB)

348 I'm wondering: maybe any Hollywood script writers out there could help me. How about a story (strictly fictional!) about a Congressman. Let's call him Shony Beener. Let's say he gets all tangled up in a big scandal which involves (among other sleezery) lewd electronic messages to minors. Let's say he hires a bunch of political fixers as lawyers to try to get him out of this mess. What if one of the plot turns involved his hired guns posting a lot of cheesy sexy garbage to the minors's accounts to make them look like the aggressors, smear them as out-of-control wild girls, just too much for poor put-upon Shony Beener to handle. Think anyone would believe that could happen? It would be really embarrassing for anybody who jumped on that bandwagon if the truth came out, wouldn't it?

Naw. Just as likely as hiding bribe money in your freezer!~Who would believe a US Congressman would be THAT sleazy?

Posted by: Alan Smithee at June 11, 2011 11:47 AM (2PTT7)

349

Ace, don't let them get away with the rehab bull shit.

These bastards are beyond nefarious.

Keep up the great work. I'm just getting nervous with the Clintons involved here and the entire thrust of the Democratic underbelly of spin and grin meisters.

Posted by: Journolist at June 11, 2011 11:48 AM (QM8jX)

350

Now Weiner is taking a "leave of absence" to get help (most likely "sex addiction"

 

I believe Ace called THAT one also early on.

 

 

 

PS- When does South Park take this one on?

Posted by: Trump at June 11, 2011 11:48 AM (hK2Ya)

351

BREAKING UPDATE:

Weiner requests "leave of absence" to avoid having to resign.

Link to come.

There's no such fucking thing as a "leave of absence" for a United States Congressman. He's either there to vote for the interest of his constituents, or he isn't there.

The people of the 9th Congressional District of New York deserve a Congressman.

If Anthony Weiner is so sick that he cannot perform the functions of his office, he must be removed from that office even if the United States House of Representatives must EXPEL him to do so.

The House, on a two-thirds vote, may expel any member for any ethical violation that brings disrepute on the House.

If he flatly refuses to resign and leaves the people of the 9th Congressional District of New York without any representation in the Congress, then it is time for the House to expel Anthony Weiner.

Posted by: someguy at June 11, 2011 11:48 AM (iIQ0a)

352

I feel bad for Ethel or Betty or Wilma or whatever her name is.  Being young and naive isn't a crime.  Send her best wishes that her life returns to normal as soon as possible.

It's the pervy perv schmuckster weinster that I will never stop laughing at.

 

Posted by: Nora at June 11, 2011 11:48 AM (VxqUc)

353 343 - You're right. This wouldn't even be a story if ace hadn't been like a dog with a bone. And he nailed it. Every. Step. Of. The. Way. Bravo, ace!

Posted by: twiceblessedmom at June 11, 2011 11:49 AM (HjxoE)

354 Anthony accidentally spilled a latte on his computer so the only reasonable thing to do was smash the hard drive and dump the laptop in a dumpster behind Five Guys. 
Posted by: Pmzey

bah, all that then retrieve it burn it in a fire, dump what's left in the ocean 100 miles out tied to a rock

Posted by: willow at June 11, 2011 11:49 AM (h+qn8)

355 rdbrewer, wouldn't all of the electronic messages be imprinted somewhere on a server?

Posted by: Journolist at June 11, 2011 11:49 AM (QM8jX)

356  And where may I ask is Boehner? For Cripes sake man say something!

Posted by: Donna at June 11, 2011 03:47 PM (bdE9c)

Getting some time in at the range!

Haven't you heard?

Posted by: John Boehner, marginally better than Pelosi at June 11, 2011 11:49 AM (AMe2R)

357 Posted by: Alan Smithee at June 11, 2011 03:47 PM (2PTT7) I am a screenwriter by trade, but I'd have to make the character a Republican to get it sold and to keep my career. Who do you think I am, David Mamet?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 11, 2011 11:49 AM (UlUS4)

358 I am beyond tired of people whose contribution to the site consists of a two or three one-minute comments per week deciding they are equal partners on the Executive Committee here. You're not. Period.

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2011 11:49 AM (nj1bB)

359

Let me guess...his gold plated Congressional health care is going to pay for the whole fucking thing (rehab).

 

Posted by: Roadking at June 11, 2011 11:49 AM (i0z6l)

360 I apologize.........I apologize.......I apologize Posted by: that guy with smallpox in 'Deadwood' Was it smallpox? I don't recall a specific disease being mentioned. Also, I think it was "I'm sorry", but that might just be in my head.

Posted by: fluffy, picker of nits at June 11, 2011 11:49 AM (4Kl5M)

361 Ace had the Weiner prediction nailed.... er, wait, I didn't mean it like that.

Posted by: tc at June 11, 2011 11:49 AM (PMLMw)

362 I'm done with this site.

Posted by: Bordo at June 11, 2011 03:39 PM (4Ao1L)

 

Who was that guy?   Never seen that handle before today.  Hash even looks unfamiliar.

Posted by: garrett at June 11, 2011 11:49 AM (k2AuH)

363 #350 Since South Park has only 7 more episodes left before it goes off the air for good, I doubt they have time to play around with a Weiner. Weiner's arrogance in the story is the poison for Democrats, and they know it. Hence this last push for him to resign. They have no problem with his behavior, just look at them. But the perception is ugly, and they have elections next year.

Posted by: CAC at June 11, 2011 11:49 AM (2KSfB)

364 This whole thread reminds me of the Simpson's line:

Chief Wiggum: You know you're not supposed to go in there. What is your fascination with my forbidden closet of mystery?

Posted by: Clubber Lang at June 11, 2011 11:50 AM (QcFbt)

365 Mama Winger is right, also it is his site. Play by his rules or start your own fucking blog.

Posted by: ABBO at June 11, 2011 11:50 AM (XEwY1)

366

Leave of absence.  This is absolute Bull Shit. 

How about Nixon... he could have taken a leave of absence to sort out his paranoia??????????????????

 

Posted by: Journolist at June 11, 2011 11:50 AM (QM8jX)

367 posted by: someguy at June 11, 2011 03:48 PM (iIQ0a) Dude! The Dems have to expel one of their own?! FLAMING PUDDING SKULL!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 11, 2011 11:50 AM (UlUS4)

368 Weiner's rehab session should be really quick: So, Anthony did you ever get a date before becoming a powerful figure groomed by Chuck U. Schumer the Annoying? Anthony: Nope, girls wouldn't get near me, in fact most of them actually couldn't because of my nose. Therapist: So you've been acting out an entire lifetime of sexual maturation via twitter and facebook? You're essentially 12 in a sexual sense? Weiner: Yes, can I touch your boobies?

Posted by: dagny at June 11, 2011 11:50 AM (utzhf)

369 Weiner's career shouldn't be unsalvageable now that he's taking a leave of absence to seek treatment.  Senator  David Vitter's therapy appears to have worked.  Once the Congressman has straightened out his life the public will be more forgiving. If the GOP continually interjects politics into the situation it's just going to alienate independent.  I hope efforts to remove him don't muddle up the 2012 elections.

Posted by: Declan at June 11, 2011 11:51 AM (qj1tC)

370 Huh...I don't usually hang out here, but I am a sucker for thread drama. I'm assuming it's not always like this?

Posted by: WaltzingMtilda at June 11, 2011 11:51 AM (60nMH)

371 This site doesn't just happen by magic. This is not communism. You don't "own" part of the site by virtue of reading it, or by virtue of my extending the privilege of commenting. It happens due to work and good decisions and sound judgment. So, all the communists who apparently think they own my blog: The door swings outwards as well as inwards. Take your beliefs about public ownership of private endeavors somewhere else.

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2011 11:51 AM (nj1bB)

372 Rehab is HAWT!!!! so totally worked  for me and firecrotch,...lollmfaoomg,....i mean lilo,....ttyl.

Posted by: Paris H at June 11, 2011 11:51 AM (Vrb/j)

373 FLAMING PUDDING SKULL! Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 11, 2011 03:50 PM (UlUS4) Double pudding skull.

Posted by: CAC at June 11, 2011 11:51 AM (2KSfB)

374

Breaking new: Weiner wants a leave of absence on a job which will NOT be his after redistricting, or the next election.

"I want to spend more time with my #family."  (OK, fake quote, but I used to write for Politico, and thats just how we roll.)

 

Posted by: ukuleledave at June 11, 2011 11:51 AM (78H67)

375 banned. I gave you ten warnings. I put it in the main post. My clubhouse, my rules. Goodbye. -- Ace

Posted by: Full Moon at June 11, 2011 11:52 AM (m75CK)

376 Ace, you're like a dog with a bone with this story... or so to speak.

Posted by: InCali at June 11, 2011 11:52 AM (u1OeY)

377

How about Nixon... he could have taken a leave of absence to sort out his paranoia??????????????????

HEY

Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you. Besides, they were out to get him, he was right and should be vindicated.

Posted by: dagny at June 11, 2011 11:52 AM (utzhf)

378 FLAMING JAR OF GRAY POUPON!!!!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 11, 2011 11:53 AM (UlUS4)

379 Weiner's career shouldn't be unsalvageable now that he's taking a leave of absence to seek treatment. Senator David Vitter's therapy appears to have worked. Once the Congressman has straightened out his life the public will be more forgiving. If the GOP continually interjects politics into the situation it's just going to alienate independent. I hope efforts to remove him don't muddle up the 2012 elections. Posted by: Declan at June 11, 2011 03:51 PM (qj1tC) Yes, because "independent" decides the election. Concern troll's trolling is concerning.

Posted by: CAC at June 11, 2011 11:53 AM (2KSfB)

380
Also, I think it was "I'm sorry", but that might just be in my head.

Posted by: fluffy, picker of nits at June 11, 2011 03:49 PM (4Kl5M)

I was moaning "I apologize", in my best smallpox voice.  Doc and Al immediately recognized the symptoms.

ps, Jane smells like wood chips

Posted by: that guy with smallpox in 'Deadwood' at June 11, 2011 11:53 AM (UqKQV)

381 My compliments to you, Ace. Thanks for reminding people about where they need to be focused. Rep. Weiner made his own choices and chose his own actions. They were not forced on him by the moon, marriage, impending fatherhood, Congress, bad economy, wars, global warming or any other outside force. His continuing efforts to avoid taking responsibility for his own actions have led to the current situation where law enforcement will have to discover and confirm the facts.

Posted by: Survivor at June 11, 2011 11:53 AM (zALLO)

382 >>>I believe Ace called THAT one also early on. I did not call that one. I did not know there was such a thing as a Leave of Absence from Congress. Commenters seem to think there isn't. I'm inclined to think they're right.

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2011 11:53 AM (nj1bB)

383 in fact most of them actually couldn't because of my nose.

Antisemite!  (okay, that was funny)

Posted by: Glenlivet at June 11, 2011 11:53 AM (6TB1Z)

384 THIS THREAD IS BORING GET TO THE REAL NEWS LIKE WHAT THEY FOUND IN THE PALIN EMAILS!!!! 

Posted by: MSNBC at June 11, 2011 11:53 AM (hK2Ya)

385 The people of the 9th Congressional District of New York deserve a Congressman.

I don't know about "deserve"--they haven't shown very good judgement in their last several elections.

I'm mostly joking.  But there's precedent in NY for letting districts sit well over a year with no representation, to save money on special elections or whatever.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at June 11, 2011 11:53 AM (UUfHw)

386 Can anyone explain if those tweets would still be available somewhere in a cache or something if they were deleted from Weiners side?

Posted by: cro at June 11, 2011 11:54 AM (uBfLP)

387 #382 Well, of course a "leave of absence" is allowable. How else can you explain the Presidency of Barack Obama? He has been absent since election day 2008.

Posted by: CAC at June 11, 2011 11:54 AM (2KSfB)

388

Ace, you're like a dog with a bone with this story

Keep gnawing, killa!

Posted by: someguy at June 11, 2011 11:55 AM (iIQ0a)

389 "Fucking communist attitude. Last time I checked, it's my handle at the top of the page, and I'm the one doing the writing on this, not fucking "Bordo.""

Name at the top of the page, the guy doing the writing...and let's not forget the most important factor: the person ultimately liable.

Liability is what tends to cause people to exercise a prudent amount of caution.

well...non-members of congress, anyway.

As a commenter, demanding the "right" to say whatever you want without limits, consequences or filters is just plain stupid.

Posted by: Sgt. York at June 11, 2011 11:55 AM (doQNd)

390 Gabby Giffords, I think, is on LOA.

Posted by: delmar at June 11, 2011 11:55 AM (d9sox)

391 Full Moon is now banned.

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2011 11:55 AM (nj1bB)

392 So can he take a "leave of absence" and retain his seat? Has anyone else done that?

Posted by: Donna at June 11, 2011 11:55 AM (bdE9c)

393 Yeah, yeah, yeah. He might have been naughty with an underage girl. But have you seen how BIG his penis is?

Posted by: Jon Stewart at June 11, 2011 11:55 AM (H0dXA)

394

Can anyone explain if those tweets would still be available somewhere in a cache or something if they were deleted from Weiners side?

Twitter keeps everything you tweet for two years. Everything sent to you, and everything you send out -  including private messages.

Required by law.

Posted by: someguy at June 11, 2011 11:56 AM (iIQ0a)

395 Damn it! I step away from my computer for an hour and apparently shit hits the fan all over the place.

Since I clearly missed something, is there any chance of getting some kind of summary of what is going down, what we're not supposed to talk about, etc.?

Posted by: Damiano at June 11, 2011 11:56 AM (3nrx7)

396

Ace, sorry if I fell in the above category.

You are doing an excellent job, beyond excellent.  And we do need to remember the blog is a success due to all of the decisions in addition to the content you make and write.  

I am just flummoxed by the hypocrisy of the Dems and the crumbling of our country right before our eyes and am mouth agape at the mainstream media on this. 

Keep up the great work brother.  

 

Posted by: Journolist at June 11, 2011 11:56 AM (QM8jX)

397 do you see the fucking red-font "BAN WARING" in the main post? What the fuck?

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2011 11:56 AM (nj1bB)

398

Weiner pun rich environment:

"Official last warning: Get off the girl."

 

It is now not possible to say ANYTHING about this story without accidentally saying something leading to a "That's what she said" joke. 

By the way, Ace is 100% right.  We leave the underage and barely legal alone.  Part of what sets us apart from liberal politicians.

Posted by: ukuleledave at June 11, 2011 11:56 AM (78H67)

399 I believe what he is referring to is how long you must be employed before your pension "vests."

It's not only to be vested but it also sounds like all you need is one term to be vested for a FULL pension.  That's crazy.  Usually when you're vested you still have to work a shitload of years before a vested pension becomes a full blown one.

Posted by: The Man Between The Cans at June 11, 2011 11:56 AM (TCyyS)

400 392 - Well, it's obvious you can take a leave of your faculties and remain a member of congress.

Posted by: twiceblessedmom at June 11, 2011 11:57 AM (HjxoE)

401 385 Posted by: HeatherRadish at June 11, 2011 03:53 PM (UUfH Heather - I used to live in that district. Forest Hills to be precise. It seems actually fairly middle of the road to me, but then again, the district includes a large part of Brooklyn as well. And that's where my self-hating Jewish leftist brethren live. Wish I were still there to vote in any upcoming special election.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 11, 2011 11:57 AM (UlUS4)

402 I am officially taking a LOA

Posted by: Full Moon at June 11, 2011 11:57 AM (Vrb/j)

403 I'm not entirely certain but I believe records of tweets are kept for a certain amount of time.

...and then turned over to the Library of Congress.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at June 11, 2011 11:57 AM (UUfHw)

404 Ace keeps telling you to "cool it" because the real facts (in all probability) will come out - and pretty soon at that. In the meantime, you folks should really go over to the Washington Post site where the 'professionals' are wading thru 14k worth of Sarah Palin emails(!!!!)

WP update....Having gone through all 14,000 emails we haven't been able to find any dirt on Mrs Palin; but all that means is "we just have to keep re-reading them until they make more sense."

Posted by: alwyr at June 11, 2011 11:58 AM (w2++y)

405 400

  Good one!

Posted by: Donna at June 11, 2011 11:58 AM (bdE9c)

406 Think about 2 scenarios:

1) Weiner sexted with the 17 year old girl.

OR

2) He not only sexted her, but sent her a pic "little Anthony."

Under 1) or 2) - and assuming he never took any stem to meet the girl - what federal and/or state laws did Weiner violate?

Posted by: Brian at June 11, 2011 11:58 AM (m05GV)

407 Can anyone explain if those tweets would still be available somewhere in a cache or something if they were deleted from Weiners side?

Twitter Privacy Policy:

Log Data: Our servers automatically record information ("Log Data") created by your use of the Services. Log Data may include information such as your IP address, browser type, the referring domain, pages visited, and search terms. Other actions, such as interactions with advertisements, may also be included in Log Data.

Law and Harm: We may disclose your information if we believe that it is reasonably necessary to comply with a law, regulation or legal request; to protect the safety of any person; to address fraud, security or technical issues; or to protect Twitter's rights or property.

Rest of it is here.

Posted by: someguy at June 11, 2011 11:58 AM (iIQ0a)

408 They  need to call on the  crime lab at Law and Order: SVU. They can find anything in any computer at any time.


Posted by: shibumi at June 11, 2011 11:58 AM (eeGvE)

409 CAC, independents are important to BOTH parties. Minds are already pretty much set in stone on the left and right. Gloat about Weiner all you want, but it's only going to drive away any possible margin of victory.

Posted by: Declan at June 11, 2011 11:58 AM (qj1tC)

410

The people of the 9th Congressional District of New York deserve a Congressman.

by: someguy at June 11, 2011 03:48 PM (iIQ0a)

They are Constitutionally required to, yes.

As to what they deserve...

Posted by: ErikW at June 11, 2011 11:58 AM (AMe2R)

411 And I love that I have to babysit this thread because so many assholes think they have some amazing speculations here that no one has ever fucking thought of!!!!

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2011 11:58 AM (nj1bB)

412 396 You're 100% right. I actually agree with you........ but did you major in kiss ass because I've never seen a finer example.

Posted by: dagny at June 11, 2011 11:58 AM (A0bnw)

413 Why should we protect the girl? She is seventeen and will be voting within a year; she is far from a child.

Posted by: Old grizzled gym coach at June 11, 2011 03:23 PM (QBQcg)

Dude- tha fuck is wrong with you? Look- I don't think Ace should have even bothered with this post, and when he started seeing problems, he should have locked it down. However, that doesn't wipe away the fact that a young girl is being victimized twice- first by Tumescent Tony, and now by you. Even if she were age of majority, just what the bloody hell is Weiner thinking? He's the pervert here, not her. I don't care if she were just a year away from voting- fact of the matter is she's still a youth (yes- at 17 you still aren't all that wise in the ways of the world) that deserves protection from scummy middle-aged assholes like this. By extension, she also deserves some benefit of the doubt.

Like Ace said- we'll see what happens within the next several hours.

Posted by: Bill H at June 11, 2011 11:58 AM (FKMW3)

414 As an aside: Twitter's one and only "asset" is the data generated by their users. I could be wrong, but honestly, I think anyone who suggests Twitter permanently discards any data is deluding themselves. Every last bit and byte is being piled up in a warehouse somewhere, not just what people have said, but all the associated metadata too.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at June 11, 2011 11:59 AM (UsjBj)

415 Tony had better be careful who he gets his therapy from:

Tony: " I have this uncontrollable urge to surf pron on the Internet!"

Female therapist: "That is very destructive behaviour and we'll have to work on you to get you to quit it as soon as possible."

Male therapist: "What are your favorite sites? Got any good ones I haven't seen yet???"

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at June 11, 2011 11:59 AM (2PTT7)

416 One good thing about threads like this is it does reveal who has the most rudimentary levels of self-control. Usually only takes about 3 warnings to me of, "If you do X, you will get punched in the face" before I get it.

I'm typically too stupid to realize the first two are directed at me. "He must mean that other idiot, not me. Besides, I did it all clever-like." A slap upside the head also gets my attention. I see 10+ warnings up-thread, so I think I got it.

Posted by: Clubber Lang at June 11, 2011 11:59 AM (QcFbt)

417 Posted by: Declan at June 11, 2011 03:58 PM (qj1tC) You, sir, are a goof.

Posted by: Bugler at June 11, 2011 11:59 AM (VXBR1)

418 So, he doesn't resign, he goes to rehab at the taxpayers' expense...Lohan-style? Look how well that works for Lindsey.

Posted by: Marybel at June 11, 2011 12:00 PM (Hic+o)

419 What the fuck kind of treatment can you get for sending dick pics? The "treatment" should be a family member slapping him upside the head and calling him a fucking idiot for 5-10 minutes. That is all that is required.

Posted by: Honey Badger at June 11, 2011 12:00 PM (H0dXA)

420 So can he take a "leave of absence" and retain his seat? Has anyone else done that?

Posted by: Donna at June 11, 2011 03:55 PM (bdE9c)

That's essentially what's going on with Gabbie Giffords and previously with Tim Johnson in the Senate. Though I suppose it's doubtful that his colleagues will agree that being an asshole and a pervert are medical conditions on par with being shot in the head or having a stroke.

Posted by: somebody else, not me at June 11, 2011 12:00 PM (7EV/g)

421

>>> Since I clearly missed something, is there any chance of getting some kind of summary of what is going down, what we're not supposed to talk about, etc.?

 

That is very Brietbartesque right there.

Posted by: Roadking at June 11, 2011 12:00 PM (i0z6l)

422

Under 1) or 2) - and assuming he never took any stem to meet the girl - what federal and/or state laws did Weiner violate?

Imagine Scenario 3 - Weiner conspired with others to destroy evidnce that might link him to the 17-year-old minor he appeared to be "grooming."

In this case, he is probably guilty of conspiracy to obstruct justice.

1) He reported a federal crime (his accounts being #hacked)

2) He then set about getting others to destroy evidence that would shed light on that crime.

Any reasonably able United States Attorney could present this case before a jury and get a conviction.

Posted by: someguy at June 11, 2011 12:01 PM (iIQ0a)

423

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2011 03:58 PM (nj1bB)

 

There has to be a troll buster or two in here...and CAC is around. 

 Set some pitbulls to guard your shit, and get back to work stroking your sources for more juice du Weiner.

Posted by: garrett at June 11, 2011 12:01 PM (k2AuH)

424 I don't get anyone complaining about how ace is running the story here.  It's his neck on the line, not ours.  Bloggers do not have shield laws to protect them, so if ace asks you not to speculate on something that could expose him to liability, me thinks he has a point, no?

It doesn't matter if it comes from a commenter, as the libfucks in the media won't make that distinction.

Posted by: The Man Between The Cans at June 11, 2011 12:01 PM (TCyyS)

425 So is the rehab thing an easy landing into resignation?  Or does this flake really think he can return to congress?????

Posted by: Journolist at June 11, 2011 12:01 PM (QM8jX)

426

What the fuck kind of treatment can you get for sending dick pics?

Lobotomy. It is the complete removal of the frontal lobe of the brain.

Cures exhibitionism every time.

Posted by: someguy at June 11, 2011 12:01 PM (iIQ0a)

427 "Pennsylvania: Free Lube Job With Oil Change"

Posted by: jeannebodine at June 11, 2011 12:02 PM (nvlAW)

428 So is the rehab thing an easy landing into resignation?  Or does this flake really think he can return to congress?????

  That's what I want to know. I can understand health reasons but pervert reasons? WTF?

Posted by: Donna at June 11, 2011 12:02 PM (bdE9c)

429 " juice du Weiner."

yeah,.....just urped a little,....imm.

Posted by: Full Moon at June 11, 2011 12:03 PM (Vrb/j)

430 397 do you see the fucking red-font "BAN WARING" in the main post?

What the fuck?

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2011 03:56 PM (nj1bB)

Ace, with all due respect, I just got here and the main post reads kinda confusingly. Take a step back from it and re-read it like someone who just came to the site and has no earthly clue what's up. From that perspective it reads: Conversations Deleted.Weiner Checking Into Rehab. Anyone Talking About That Which Will Not Be Named, Stuff On Double Secret Probation, or Private Individuals Will Be Banned- HOWEVER- You Can Talk About Weiner. Huh???

Posted by: Damiano at June 11, 2011 12:03 PM (3nrx7)

431 "Why should we protect the girl? She is seventeen and will be voting within a year; she is far from a child."

 That's the dumbest thing I've read all week...

Posted by: Sgt. York at June 11, 2011 12:03 PM (doQNd)

432

 

The 'LOA' schtick is Gold, Ace...Gold!

Posted by: Kenny no Bania'd at June 11, 2011 12:04 PM (k2AuH)

433 Boy, this kinda blows a hole in the 'Huma doesn't see what the big deal is' end of the narrative. 'Tony, so you have to take a leave of absence and seek counseling. No big deal!' Smart as a whip, that woman.

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at June 11, 2011 12:04 PM (2PTT7)

434 Everyone promise to be good. I want ace to get the latest information.

  I know. As soon as ace goes all hell will probably break loose.

Posted by: Donna at June 11, 2011 12:05 PM (bdE9c)

435 420 That's just the problem, I CANNOT count on Weenie's collegues to discern between getting shot in the head and being a pervert. They call a lack of self-control "illness". Morality is subjective with them.

Posted by: Marybel at June 11, 2011 12:05 PM (Hic+o)

436 The Rehab Gambit Never Fails! On Sale Now!

Posted by: Rehab Gambit Vendor at June 11, 2011 12:05 PM (GfhFm)

437 Can we get a picture from An Officer and a Gentleman, with Weiner's face superimposed on Richard Gere and Wasserman-Schultz's on Louis Gosset, Jr.  Caption: "I GOT NOWHERE ELSE TO GO!"

Posted by: jeopardyjackson at June 11, 2011 12:05 PM (2gd6S)

438 I'm just thankful Twitter wasn't around during the Clinton years. 

Posted by: mama winger at June 11, 2011 12:05 PM (R9bQ9)

439 Also, this rehab thing smells more like an attempt to avoid further spotlight shining as opposed to trying to avoid resignation.

Posted by: Sgt. York at June 11, 2011 12:05 PM (doQNd)

440 Just a couple of technical musings - anyone with real expertise, please chime in:

- I write a lot of web-based apps. Unless the item in question takes up A LOT of room, whenever we provide a way for users to "delete" something, all we really do is flag it as deleted. We don't actually remove the data from the database. Among other things, this is how you provide an "undo" feature for deletions. Much like deleting something from your hard disk: The data isn't actually removed, the sectors on which it is stored are simply flagged as available for writing new data.

- If the messages in question are stored at Twitter, does anyone know if this is how Twitter works? Do they actually remove the data, or do they just flag the tweets as "deleted"?

- If the messages are on Skype, my understanding is that it's completely different: Skype works by storing conversations on each party's local drive. So Party A can delete whatever they want; as long as Party B doesn't delete anything, Party B still has the entire conversation.

Point is: In all likelihood, everything is still available, either by having one of the two devices on which the conversation was conducted; or by subpoenaing Twitter.

Posted by: an erection lasting more than four hours at June 11, 2011 12:06 PM (1c0W9)

Posted by: HeatherRadish at June 11, 2011 12:06 PM (UUfHw)

442 425 - I honestly believe with his out-sized ego that he truly believes this will pass. I mean, he not only fancies himself a ladies man, but a modern day super-hero. He's delusional.

Posted by: twiceblessedmom at June 11, 2011 12:06 PM (HjxoE)

443 It's a "short leave of absence".

Short being the key word, I think.  I guess it doesn't take long to get the cure for being a perv.  Who knew.

Posted by: SlaveDog at June 11, 2011 12:07 PM (PidTa)

444 >>> It's his neck on the line, not ours. This is the self-entitled, selfish communist cunt shit I don't get. I am sick of people instructing me that I must run risks I do not wish to run, or be a party to speculating about a 17 year old girl, which I am EXTREMELY uncomfortable with for ethical and empathetic reasons. No, I have old grizzled bastards telling me I should treat a 17 year old girl as if she were "The Left." Because that's how it seems to Joe Nobody firing off comments anonymously. None of these fucking cranks ever says "I am emailing you a legal document in which I agree to indemnify you in case of suit." No, they just insist they can do what they want because, hey, they can do what they want.

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2011 12:07 PM (nj1bB)

445 I'm glad this thread is up and running today, life is boring when Dr. Who isn't on...

Posted by: Trump at June 11, 2011 12:08 PM (hK2Ya)

446 Has anyone ever successfully rehabbed a douchebag?

Posted by: Unclefacts Luxury-Yacht at June 11, 2011 12:08 PM (6IReR)

447 Wiener will find the phallometric testing portion of the rehab a real turn-on.

Posted by: phil at June 11, 2011 12:08 PM (QzdcC)

448

haha, remember this?


"Weiner accused Republicans of "chutzpah" and then slammed their integrity during a floor debate on a bill to nix the insurance industry's antitrust exemption.
"

WEINER: You guys have chutzpah. The Republican Party is the wholly owned subsidiary of the insurance industry. They say this isnÂ’t going to do enough, but when we propose an alternative to provide competition, theyÂ’re against it. They say we want to strengthen state insurance commissioners and theyÂ’ll do the job. But when we did that in our national health care bill, they said weÂ’re against it. They said we want to have competition but when we proposed requiring competition theyÂ’re against it. TheyÂ’re a wholly owned subsidiary of the insurance industry. ThatÂ’s the fact!

LUNGREN: Mr. Speaker I ask that the gentlemanÂ’s words be taken down.

WEINER: You really don’t want to go there, Mr. Lungren. […] Make no mistake about it. Every single Republican I have ever met in my entire life is wholly owned subsidiary of the insurance industry. That is why —

LUNGREN: Mr. Speaker I ask that the gentlemanÂ’s words be taken down once more.



Posted by: le soothsayeau at June 11, 2011 12:08 PM (maHq2)

449 If she's really not really preggers, there is a card that trumps the preggers card.  It will be played - if she's not really preggers.

Posted by: rockhead at June 11, 2011 12:09 PM (ZMHGo)

450 437 Can we get a picture from An Officer and a Gentleman, with Weiner's face superimposed on Richard Gere and Wasserman-Schultz's on Louis Gosset, Jr. Caption: "I GOT NOWHERE ELSE TO GO!" Posted by: jeopardyjackson at June 11, 2011 04:05 PM (2gd6S Allen West super-imposed on Lou Gosset?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 11, 2011 12:09 PM (UlUS4)

451 417 You, sir, are a goof. Posted by: Bugler at June 11, 2011 03:59 PM (VXBR1) No, I'm Average Joe (string together the 4th and 6th letters of the word 5th word of each sentence in my original comment at #379).

Posted by: Declan at June 11, 2011 12:09 PM (liBQN)

452 Daimano, if your're too dim to read plain english and therefore can't understand what "don't speculate about the girl's actions, or the parent's means," then don't post here. It's apparently beyond you.

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2011 12:09 PM (nj1bB)

453

Boy, this kinda blows a hole in the 'Huma doesn't see what the big deal is' end of the narrative.

Folks ... they're all working in a coordinated fashion to defuse the situation.

Pelosi and Wasserman-Schultz issue statements (written, not on video) within moments of each other and moments later Weiner requests his "leave of absence," something which does not exist in the Constitution.

Huma is in on the planning. So are the Clintons.

This shit doesn't happen like this in such a coordinated fashion by accident.

They're trying to save their boy and derail the criminal investigation. They are conspiring to cover up the crime.

All of them are now conspiring.

This is a GREAT development.

They're acting, after a criminal investigation has begun, in a coordinated fashion, to derail that investigation.

Bring me Woodward and Bernstein.

Check that ... bring  me  EV. ERY. ONE.

Posted by: someguy at June 11, 2011 12:10 PM (iIQ0a)

454
that was from Feb 2010

Posted by: le soothsayeau at June 11, 2011 12:10 PM (maHq2)

455 @426: "Lobotomy. It is the complete removal of the frontal lobe of the brain." During the glory days of lobotomy, operations were done with ice picks tapped into the brain via tear ducts. No removal of grey matter, just slashing around until it was reduced to a mush of sorts. Good times.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at June 11, 2011 12:10 PM (UsjBj)

456
Suggestions up-thread that a leave of absence is not possible in the US Congress?

Gabrielle Giffords has been on a medical leave of absence since the tragic shooting.

If Weiner or his attorney suggests his pervert behavior is a medical condition, he will probably ask for the same treatment as Giffords?

Note to Ethics Committee:  Just boot the jerk for irresponsible behavior and be done with it!

Posted by: Fish the Impaler at June 11, 2011 12:10 PM (cwFVA)

457 Gabby Giffords was a victim of an assassination attempt. Weiner dug his own hole.

Posted by: davo at June 11, 2011 12:10 PM (q8Yz9)

458 Toby, are you readin this thread? Like to know how the strut job went.

Posted by: irongrampa at June 11, 2011 12:10 PM (ud5dN)

459 I dunno about the rest of you, but a glass of Talisker is looking mighty good at the moment, and it isn't even 430.

Posted by: pep at June 11, 2011 12:10 PM (6TB1Z)

460 Meh, easy enough to get the conversations back. ISP and Twitter etc servers might even still have them. If cops think there's anything there (and the two people involved saying "oh my no, we discussed cookie recipes and hymns" isn't enough to say otherwise), they can get it.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 11, 2011 12:10 PM (r4wIV)

461 "I'm glad this thread is up and running today, life is boring when Dr. Who isn't on..."

Mid-season finale tonight on BBC America.  I've already seen it.  Eh.  I think they over hyped it.

Posted by: Kensington at June 11, 2011 12:11 PM (uaEZS)

462 Treatment? You want treatment? Well, come on down!

Posted by: Penile Plethysmographs R Us at June 11, 2011 12:11 PM (VXBR1)

463 #435, I'm fairly confident that we won't need to rely on their good sense or decency for the right outcome to obtain, just their instinct for self-preservation. Even if Weiner's actions only amount to the "manslaughter" option in Ace's analogy I can't see his colleagues putting their necks out for him. If even a dingbat like Debbie Wasserman-Schultz is calling for his resignation, it's got to be over for him in the House. That's a hard statement to walk back.

Posted by: somebody else, not me at June 11, 2011 12:11 PM (7EV/g)

464 I'm definitely filling in the blanks of this story in my own head but I do have enough respect for Ace to do him a small favor when he asks and not share my wild musings. No doubt we will eventually find out the truth. We have so far, thanks to Ace.

Posted by: Tennyson at June 11, 2011 12:11 PM (ETZn2)

465

What the fuck kind of treatment can you get for sending dick pics?

Sex change??

Posted by: dagny at June 11, 2011 12:11 PM (WRewY)

466 Weiner dug his own hole. Posted by: davo at June 11, 2011 04:10 PM (q8Yz9) Double-entendre pour vous, monsieur?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 11, 2011 12:12 PM (UlUS4)

467 Rehab....

Like Lindsay Lohan kind of rehab?

Yeah, soon, a member of Congress can be brought up to that level of competence...

Posted by: nickless at June 11, 2011 12:12 PM (MMC8r)

468 "If she's really not really preggers, there is a card that trumps the preggers card.  It will be played - if she's not really preggers."

She'll say she lost the baby due to stress...that thought had crossed my mind.

Posted by: Sgt. York at June 11, 2011 12:12 PM (doQNd)

469 self-entitled communist bullshit. "I am entitled to all benefits of saying whatever I like, but no, now that you ask, I will not agree to carry the burden of risk, nor will I actually contribute to the work necessary to create this blog. I just think that I'm special and I get to make the rules for other people, without actually chipping in with labor or financial indemnification."

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2011 12:12 PM (nj1bB)

470 @326 ranger117
"According to an unnamed Dem source to NBC, the coordinated calls for resignation came when weiner decided to seek treatment."

Thanks.  So Democratic "leadership" is leading from behind, as usual.  Still, Pelosi's overnight 180 on whether Weiner should resign is remarkable.

Posted by: nyc1646@yahoo.com at June 11, 2011 12:12 PM (+yryi)

471 Bwa ha ha.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at June 11, 2011 04:06 PM (UUfHw)

It's true. You either are a perv or you are not, just like you are either an alcoholic or you are not.

Can they be treated? Yes, with support from loved ones and professionals for the rest of your life.

A "short" rehab is complete bullshit.

Posted by: ErikW at June 11, 2011 12:12 PM (AMe2R)

472
No, Mr Fucking Weiner, YOU really don't want to go there.

Posted by: le soothsayeau at June 11, 2011 12:12 PM (maHq2)

473 1) I think the GOP should not demand resignation. Make him the Foley of the Dems. 2) If he is forced to resign, we should all chip in and buy him a Weinerschnitzel franchise.

Posted by: sexypig at June 11, 2011 12:13 PM (UmEOs)

474 We wouldn't even know about this kid unless HE freaking responded to her.  It's totally on him.

Posted by: rockhead at June 11, 2011 12:14 PM (ZMHGo)

475 Calm down folks, and sleep well knowing this: Ace isn't "banning" anyone today, but granting them "informal leaves of absence for troll rehab."

Posted by: Walter Freeman at June 11, 2011 12:14 PM (UsjBj)

476
90 days from now...


H O W   W E I N E R  G OT  H I S
C H U T Z P A H   B A C K

Posted by: le soothsayeau at June 11, 2011 12:14 PM (maHq2)

477 "According to an unnamed Dem source to NBC, the coordinated calls for resignation came when weiner decided to seek treatment.

IOW, when it became apparent that there is no way to ignore this and every minute he's in office makes things worse for them.

Posted by: pep at June 11, 2011 12:14 PM (6TB1Z)

478 With over 7% of the 9% unemployment rate attributable to guys who got canned for shooting a load on their office computer screen, this call for a leave of absence is not going to "resonate."

Posted by: Average Joe at June 11, 2011 12:15 PM (liBQN)

479 Other than catching a potential predator I don't give  good G'Damn about the minors. The fact that a sitting congressman sent lurid photos on a public available internet feed is enough for me to say GET THE FUCK OUT.

Posted by: Talibill at June 11, 2011 12:15 PM (fkiq4)

480 Huma is in on the planning. So are the Clintons.

Oh, that was my point:

HUMA: 'Well, I had a nice day today, dear. How about you?
TONY: ' I've been implicated in a sex scandal with underage girls and have bailed into a leave of absence and sex counseling to try to save my job.'
HUMA: 'That's nice. I hope that works well for you. This asparagus from Whole Foods is a little on the woody side, isn't it? Let's watch a movie on Netflix after dinner!'

Real self-actualized modern women there!

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at June 11, 2011 12:15 PM (2PTT7)

481 I hope you are practicing your end-zone dance.



BTW, I predicted rehab back on the what's next thread last week.

Posted by: toby928™ at June 11, 2011 12:15 PM (GTbGH)

482 473 - We should all chip in and get him to a barber. He looks like the older brother of Arnold Horshack.

Posted by: twiceblessedmom at June 11, 2011 12:15 PM (HjxoE)

483 Love the fact that, instead of the Palin emails being a distraction from the Weenie fiasco, quite the opposite is happening.

Posted by: Marybel at June 11, 2011 12:15 PM (Hic+o)

484

In:  #Dicpic

Out: #CryForHelp!

Posted by: Democrat Meme Generator at June 11, 2011 12:16 PM (2aQd7)

Posted by: De' Debil at June 11, 2011 12:16 PM (j5CHE)

486 http://repcloakroom.house.gov/Services/#loa there is a leave of absence, Drew informs me, and proves it.

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2011 12:16 PM (nj1bB)

487 Leave of Absence Gambit works great in conjunction with Rehab Gambit!

Testimonials Available!

Posted by: Leave of Absence Gambit Vendor at June 11, 2011 12:16 PM (GfhFm)

488 so per Fox, leaders decided on Thursday, that if Weiner had not resigned by Saturday morning, they would ask him to go themselves

well, okay, but then what was up with Nancy's "he can stay" message yesterday?


Posted by: Storm at June 11, 2011 12:17 PM (AZFgs)

489 Would someone go to rehab if all they had done were engage in explicit conversations and sent a couple of pics?

I'm thinking "no."

Posted by: Sgt. York at June 11, 2011 12:17 PM (doQNd)

490 483 Love the fact that, instead of the Palin emails being a distraction from the Weenie fiasco, quite the opposite is happening. Posted by: Marybel at June 11, 2011 04:15 PM (Hic+o) I love the fact that Barry prioritizes saving Weiner's seat over the gun-running scandal.

Posted by: not the droid you seek at June 11, 2011 12:18 PM (xc/va)

491 Considering these congress people have big responsibilities, perhaps they should have this internet thingy all explained to them and stuff.

Posted by: De' Debil Hisself at June 11, 2011 12:18 PM (j5CHE)

492

I wonder if he's going to the same "rehab" that Tiger Woods went to...

 

Posted by: Trump at June 11, 2011 12:18 PM (hK2Ya)

493
an amazing thing is happening right now

millions of leftist atheists are praying that they find something bad in the Palin emails  so that Weiner is removed from the news cycle

Posted by: le soothsayeau at June 11, 2011 12:19 PM (maHq2)

494 465

What the fuck kind of treatment can you get for sending dick pics?

Sex change??

Posted by: dagny at June 11, 2011 04:11 PM (WRewY)

And for Occcupational Therapy this week, we'll be teaching a really fun Photography class...

Posted by: Rehab Center Therapist at June 11, 2011 12:20 PM (NtXW4)

495 No, I'm Average Joe (string together the 4th and 6th letters of the word 5th word of each sentence in my original comment at #379).

Sorry.  Forgot to bring my one time pad.

Posted by: Debbie Whatisupwiththisbitch-Sergeant Schultz at June 11, 2011 12:20 PM (agD4m)

496 So you think it's a coincidence the Bilderbergers meet and suddenly the Dems want Weiner gone, hah? Do yah? HAH?

Posted by: richard mcenroe at June 11, 2011 12:20 PM (qvify)

497 Weiner in sex rehab? Time to short Astroglide stock.

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at June 11, 2011 12:21 PM (2PTT7)

498 @452 Ace, I completely understand why you're bent on this and that it's your ass on the line if shit gets loose. My only suggestion was that the main post, taken on it's own, can be confusing as hell to someone just popping in here. In context with the past 10 days or so, sure... it makes sense. If you don't want me to comment here, it's your house and I respect your wishes, but perhaps you may consider what I was saying in the context of trying to be constructive and support you instead of attacking me and calling me dim. I admitted up front that I was missing something, articulated why, and asked for clarification. While doing so, I skimmed through ther other threads and posts and started to get a clear picture. Again, I get that you have your neck out and lots of folks don't fully appreciate that fact. All respect for that and your work on this story, but perhaps in this instance, your criticism of me may be a bit overdone.

Posted by: Damiano at June 11, 2011 12:21 PM (3nrx7)

499 Now... for the big question... Congress is Self Insured, will this 'therapy' be covered under his health insurance, so WE the taxpayers end up paying for it????

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 11, 2011 12:21 PM (NtXW4)

500 "What the fuck kind of treatment can you get for sending dick pics?" From what I remember after the coma, it involves a tenderizing hammer...

Posted by: richard mcenroe and his mighty appendage "Thor" at June 11, 2011 12:21 PM (qvify)

501 501st!

Posted by: Sgt. York at June 11, 2011 12:21 PM (doQNd)

502 Does this whole thing really surprise anyone? Almost all politicians are obsessed with power and believe they are above the law. They think they can do whatever they want and get away with it. Look at the IMF head. Same behavior. The only shocking thing about this one is that weiner was caught in the act

Posted by: Chris at June 11, 2011 12:22 PM (D5cll)

503 In sex therapy will he come to terms with being ugly, obnoxious, rude, and annoying?

Posted by: dagny at June 11, 2011 12:23 PM (Ou1zv)

504 Headline
Dems To Caucus  With Rehabbed Weiner

Posted by: De' Debil Hisself at June 11, 2011 12:23 PM (j5CHE)

505
incidentally, Ann Coulter referred to Obama as "the jug-eared beanpole" on Howie Carr's show yesterday.

Posted by: le soothsayeau at June 11, 2011 12:23 PM (maHq2)

506 Interesting point about congresscritters and whether or not they can take a leave of absence. 

As I've learned from Average Joe, I believe I know the real name of the poster at #369:  Weiner's career shouldn't be unsalvageable now that he's taking a leave of absence to seek treatment.

You're veddy welcome. 

Posted by: Sherlock D. at June 11, 2011 12:24 PM (/XWjq)

507 If the deviant fucker resigns, does he still collect that sweet fed pension?

Posted by: Barbarian at June 11, 2011 12:24 PM (EL+OC)

508 Daimano, this is an argument I get tired of having, because it's the same argument I get to spend hours on with respect to racism. When I say "Don't say racist shit" the very next question is "But what's racist?" Whatever. I said don't speculate about the girl's end of the matter and let the evidence TELL us when it tells us. I do not think this is complicated. If you're not sure you're implicating the girl or not, then don't say it. I don't need to be part of a bunch of internet piranhas in a feeding frenzy on a 17 year old girl who might actually turn out to be guilty of nothing more than having a crush on a vile man.

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2011 12:24 PM (nj1bB)

509 On the link that Ace posted for "leave of absence" they have this:

Whether or not one chooses to request a Leave of Absence, a Member may wish to prepare a statement on how he/she would have voted on the votes that were missed.

One wonders what the purpose of that is?

Posted by: Vic at June 11, 2011 12:24 PM (M9Ie6)

510 Sure wish I could get some of that sex treatment. With lube.

Posted by: AlGore at June 11, 2011 12:24 PM (VXBR1)

511

What the fuck kind of treatment can you get for sending dick pics?

 

"Why'd you put the balm on? You haven't even been to see the. doctor. If your gonna put a balm on, let a doctor put a balm on."

Posted by: Jackie Chiles at June 11, 2011 12:24 PM (2aQd7)

512 I just hope this isn't over before I see these headlines:

WEINER COOKED!

or:

HIX NIX DIX PIX TO CHIX.

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at June 11, 2011 12:24 PM (2PTT7)

513

I wonder if he's going to the same "rehab" that Tiger Woods went to...

 

Posted by: Trump at June 11, 2011 04:18 PM (hK2Ya)

 

30 day rehab centers are nothing more than scams.

Celebrity/Politican goes to said center with a problem. Said center is run by a staff of licensed psychiatric quacks.

C/P tells them what they want to hear, pays them oodles of cash and the quacks proudly pronounce him cured!

And the MBM goes wild with adoration for the courage the C/P showed by getting help.

Posted by: ErikW at June 11, 2011 12:26 PM (AMe2R)

514

Headline -

HARD TIMES FOR WEINER - HAS TO STAND ON HIS OWN.

Posted by: Roadking at June 11, 2011 12:26 PM (i0z6l)

515 have this: Whether or not one chooses to request a Leave of Absence, a Member may wish to prepare a statement on how he/she would have voted on the votes that were missed. One wonders what the purpose of that is? Posted by: Vic at June 11, 2011 04:24 PM (M9Ie6) Does that apply to the senate as well? I'm asking for a friend.

Posted by: Barry the O at June 11, 2011 12:27 PM (xc/va)

516 Ace, you're a far more tolerant and forgiving dictator than I am.  If my Facebook page ever gets taken over by my friends, someone will be cutting me down from a lamppost before it's all over.

Posted by: Damn Dirty RINO at June 11, 2011 12:27 PM (hSwL0)

517 Well, AlGore, it's too bad, because I know you're a regular, but you're now banned. I told you. I warned you. Now we'er doing the cutesy dance. You're banned. I don't need this shit. All you had to do was observe a simple rule and you didn't.

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2011 12:27 PM (nj1bB)

518 509 So the constituients know how you would have voted.

Posted by: delmar at June 11, 2011 12:27 PM (d9sox)

519

Members may not use political reasons for an absence. Members may choose not to request a Leave of Absence if he/she believes it would draw unnecessary attention to his/her absence.

The Speaker of the House must approve, by signing, all requests for a leave of absence. He is not required to sign it.

Will John Boehner help Democrat Anthony Weiner by granting him a leave of absence that is clearly being requested for political reasons in violation of House rules related to leaves of absence?

Posted by: someguy at June 11, 2011 12:27 PM (iIQ0a)

520 Has anyone done sex therapy before?  Is it true that your therapist is usually a young woman who could pass for Jessica Alba's twin, sporting long legs and trained in advanced techniques to help you relieve your sex addiction?

Or is my friend just bullshitting me?

Posted by: The Man Between The Cans at June 11, 2011 12:27 PM (TCyyS)

521

"We leave the underage and barely legal alone.  Part of what sets us apart from liberal politicians."

I object.  We also want to leave the barely legal alone.  To make their own informed choices.  12 yo seems good.  To decide on having an abortion.  An abortion, w/o notifying one's parents.  Why.  They have no input in the matter.

Posted by: Dim-Media Complex at June 11, 2011 12:27 PM (ucq49)

522
M R  W E I N E R  G O E S  T O
B E T T Y  F O R D

Posted by: le soothsayeau at June 11, 2011 12:28 PM (maHq2)

523
  Probably a good time to sit back and watch for a couple of days and see what Tuesday brings. Tuesday being my prediction of Weiner's presser saying he's taking a rehab with an indefinite return date.

Posted by: irongrampa at June 11, 2011 12:28 PM (ud5dN)

524 This is absolute "BS" and it simply won't sell. Weiner epitomizes the cancerous rot that has infested that liberal Party and this phony stunt changes nothing.

Posted by: rplat at June 11, 2011 12:28 PM (4vq8i)

525

Skype is a Godsend for us  military families. 

It was and then it turned completely evil on us. VSee is what we use now. Our connection can be a little slow, but it is a wonderful, wonderful tool to have.

Posted by: Mama AJ at June 11, 2011 12:28 PM (XdlcF)

526 Does that apply to the senate as well? I'm asking for a friend.

The link goes to the House Republican "Cloakroom"

Posted by: Vic at June 11, 2011 12:30 PM (M9Ie6)

527 @470
Posted by: nyc1646

They called for his resignation after he said he would go to rehab...
  that make sense, sorta, for them


Posted by: Stormy at June 11, 2011 12:30 PM (AZFgs)

528 *in the most ponderously pedantic voice imaginable*

As I have said before, for those of you too young to remember:

THIS is what a Clinton scandal looks like.

Harumph.

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at June 11, 2011 12:31 PM (agD4m)

529 deleted. Kaspar, one more joke and you're banned too. -- Ace

Posted by: Kasper Hauser at June 11, 2011 12:31 PM (v0pFT)

530
1) He reported a federal crime (his accounts being #hacked)
Posted by: someguy at June 11, 2011 04:01 PM

Not sure he did. He notoriously did not contact authorities. I don't think it's a crime to lie to the public (tell reporters you were hacked when you weren't).

Posted by: arhooley at June 11, 2011 12:31 PM (eNx0o)

531

Deleting tweets from an account is one thing. Deleting them from a computer is another. I call attention to the quote at the top of the thread.

Posted by: arhooley at June 11, 2011 03:28 PM (eNx0o)

Um, just to point this out so you don't need to wonder, but I don't think there is such a thing as a "local copy" for twitter.  I think DM's would sort of act like chatting on face book.  And so you would actually need to go on the site to see them barring some specific type of software application that I am not familiar with.  So unless there are setups that the DM's get sent to text message or to your personal e-mail as well as twitter I can see the only copies of such things existing soley within their twitter accounts in the ether of the internet which Weiner would be able to delete without needing the girl to do anythin.

Posted by: buzzion at June 11, 2011 12:31 PM (oVQFe)

532 I believe Scott Brown is taking a LOA from the Senate to fulfill his National Guard committment in Afghanistan.  How that works, I have no clue.  But, he'll be gone from the Capitol for a wee bit of time.  Apparently, it can be done.

Posted by: joejm65 at June 11, 2011 12:31 PM (BDB5n)

533 "Sources said much of the conversations between Weiner and the high schooler had been deleted from the girl's computer." ------------------------------------------- It's still there . . . law enforcement needs to secure his computer and restore and recover the appropriate missing data.

Posted by: rplat at June 11, 2011 12:32 PM (4vq8i)

534 Interesting that Weiner's statement says, "...treatment to focus on becoming a better husband and healthier person." But not a better father. I think the "pregnancy" is bogus.

Posted by: really not sayin' who I am at June 11, 2011 12:32 PM (2y90e)

535 "Ward, you're being a little hard on the Weiner"

Posted by: June Cleaver at June 11, 2011 12:33 PM (v0pFT)

536

Leave of Absence

Weiner may request one if he is genuinely sick. He is not.

Boehner may sign it. He is not required to sign it, or grant the leave of absence. And he should not. The member is not sick. The member is facing a political crisis of his own doing. The House rules do not allow for members to use a Leave of Absence to defuse a political crisis.

This would be an abuse of the rules and a clear violation of House rules.

Boehner should disallow it and he should instead schedule a vote to EXPEL the member for ethical violations that have brought massive disrepute upon the House.

Posted by: someguy at June 11, 2011 12:34 PM (iIQ0a)

537

"Is it true that your therapist is usually a young woman who could pass for Jessica Alba's twin, sporting long legs and trained in advanced techniques to help you relieve your sex addiction?"

What's this?  Sat?  Banks closed.  Shit.  At least give me a hint.  Where do I send my life savings?  To be saved?  I get a group discount, if I claim to be a Dim?



 

Posted by: Hello I'm a Typical Dem Perv at June 11, 2011 12:34 PM (ucq49)

538 Kaspar, next joke, you're banned. I am telling you to stop with anything that implies the girl did anything wrong. I am not asking. Asking was five fucking hours ago. I am telling you. Next cutesy joke, you're banned.

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2011 12:34 PM (nj1bB)

539
This is what you get when you wear funny little hats and cut your babies.

Posted by: Russell Crowe at June 11, 2011 12:34 PM (maHq2)

540 Wow, gone awhile and happen to get back in about where I left off, the might ban hammer...again. I think that thread got somewhere north of 6000 posts. Going for a new record? I see we are well on our way.

Posted by: Grimjack at June 11, 2011 12:34 PM (4Tzsb)

541

Let me guess...his gold plated Congressional health care is going to pay for the whole fucking thing (rehab).

 

It was prescribed by his proctologist.

 

Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 11, 2011 12:35 PM (O6wqm)

542
Members may not use political reasons for an absence.


He'll claim medical. Not that he's been diagnosed mind you. by the way, this puts taxpayers on the hook for his rehab, doesn't it? What next, do we have to pony up his salary for his gig on CurrentTV?

Posted by: arhooley at June 11, 2011 12:35 PM (eNx0o)

543 Ok. Sorry....

Posted by: Kasper Hauser... at June 11, 2011 12:35 PM (v0pFT)

544 @508 Got it and completely agree and understand your position, Ace. It was never my intention to dispute it. All I was saying is that if all I read was the top post, it could be confusing as to what you're talking about. Once I read all the other related posts and comments, things made more sense, but the initial post itself doesn't stand on it's own. My criticism is editorial, not in dispute of your rules or wishes. Fine, shame on me. I should have read the whole site before commenting on a post. Also shame on me for thinking that suggesting that others, who may happen by your site due to the increase traffic you're earning on this story could be confused if they only read the top post on it's own and before it was edited and updated.

Posted by: Damiano at June 11, 2011 12:35 PM (3nrx7)

545 Via "the Fix" on Twitter:

Assistant Dem House leader Jim Clyburn breaks with colleagues, does not call for Weiner resignation

Posted by: mama winger at June 11, 2011 12:35 PM (R9bQ9)

546 self-entitled communist bullshit. "I am entitled to all benefits of saying whatever I like, but no, now that you ask, I will not agree to carry the burden of risk, nor will I actually contribute to the work necessary to create this blog. I just think that I'm special and I get to make the rules for other people, without actually chipping in with labor or financial indemnification. Ace, the advice and tips you get every day from your commenters is your "payment." Plus, they've earned the right to speak freely by the financial contributions they've made to their Internet providers, from who you directly benefit.  Save your anger for the targets of your investigations.  Though we enjoy your rants, we can easily leave you for NRO online and not notice the difference.  Only blind obedience to your diktats and hissy-fits would make this a communist site like LGF.

Posted by: Loyal But Wavering AoSHQ Reader at June 11, 2011 12:36 PM (5ujiq)

547 @ 534 ....to be fair, he's not really a "father" yet.   The kid has to make an appearance first.  The pregnancy is probably real, that would take this story to a whole new level of vile

Posted by: Trump at June 11, 2011 12:36 PM (hK2Ya)

548 I feel at a loss for words....

Posted by: Kasper Hauser... at June 11, 2011 12:36 PM (v0pFT)

549
Just like me, Congressman Weiner jumped the shark.

Posted by: Arthur Herbert Fonzarelli at June 11, 2011 12:37 PM (cwFVA)

550 534Interesting that Weiner's statement says, "...treatment to focus on becoming a better husband and healthier person." But not a better father.

I think the "pregnancy" is bogus.

Posted by: really not sayin' who I am at June 11, 2011 04:32 PM (2y90e)

 

He's a Democrat.  That means he's technically not a father yet because, to him, the thing inside of his wife isn't a baby yet.  It won't be a baby until it shoots through the birth canal and gets slapped by a doctor.  Until then, it's just a lump of tissue that COULD be used to cure every disease known to mankind if us conservatives weren't such a bunch of neanderthals.  

Posted by: joejm65 at June 11, 2011 12:37 PM (BDB5n)

551
Posted by: buzzion at June 11, 2011 04:31 PM

Okay, then maybe that statement at the top of the thread is a misnomer. Maybe it should say "account" instead of "computer."

Posted by: arhooley at June 11, 2011 12:38 PM (eNx0o)

552 Loyal But Wavering AoSHQ Reader, The door works the other way too. You are free to go. You don't own shit. Let me repeat that: You do not own shit. Are you kidding me? They pay for fucking internet and that indirectly benefits me? You're banned. If this was Average Joe, you picked the wrong time to punk.

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2011 12:38 PM (nj1bB)

553 "guilty of nothing more than having a crush on a vile man."   

And even if there were more, which I am not suggesting here, she would not be guilty of anything more.   

It's the vile man, the con man,  who would be to blame in any case.


Posted by: SarahW at June 11, 2011 12:39 PM (Z4T49)

554 Loyal But Wavering AoSHQ Reader Actually Ace is completely right here. This is not a Charlie Johnson thing. He could be liable if something defamatory is posted.. And, yes, maybe I am brown-nosing---but have you ever tried brown-noising? How can you put something down if you've never even tried it?

Posted by: Kasper Hauser... at June 11, 2011 12:39 PM (v0pFT)

555 Nothing Beats Rehab Gambit! Works Every Time! Try It With Leave of Absence Gambit! Money Back Guarantee!

Posted by: Rehab Gamit Vendor at June 11, 2011 12:39 PM (GfhFm)

556

Posted by: Loyal But Wavering AoSHQ Reader at June 11, 2011 04:36 PM (5ujiq)

Wow that sounds like such a whiny little bitch comment to make.  No one is forcing you to stay buddy.  And demanding that ace allow you to say whatever you damn well want because you "pay" him is retarded.

Posted by: buzzion at June 11, 2011 12:40 PM (oVQFe)

557

Posted by: Grimjack at June 11, 2011 04:34 PM (4Tzsb)

Dude!  How's that hawt Russkie?

Posted by: MDr at June 11, 2011 12:40 PM (ucq49)

558 Unfortunately for Mr. Weiner finding tweets, no matter how innocuous, to an underage girl is kind of like finding termites under your front porch. You wonder where else they might be. One word keeps screaming in my head: "Skype". I'll bet he has an account, and I'll bet he'd rather not discuss how he's used it with the public.

Posted by: Nighthawk at June 11, 2011 12:41 PM (5nMWA)

559 I have this great parody of Amy Winehouse's "Rehab", running through my head....but I'm going to let it pass....just let it pass....

Posted by: Kasper Hauser... at June 11, 2011 12:42 PM (v0pFT)

560 Hey, can we get a separate "Ace vs. people that don't read the ENTIRE article before posting" feed? There's some very funny and exceptionally smart people that post here and I really enjoying reading thier comments. You guys are fuckin with my sit back and enjoy time.

Posted by: Talibill at June 11, 2011 12:42 PM (fkiq4)

561
Congressman Weiner can ride my taco anytime.

Posted by: Beulah Balbricker at June 11, 2011 12:42 PM (cwFVA)

562 If Boehner is the guy who gets to give the thumbs up or thumbs down on a leave, he ought to say "Take all the time you need for 'treatment' but you'd better get on it now.  McDonald's might not still be hiring if you wait too long."

Posted by: I can't keep my socks straight at June 11, 2011 12:42 PM (/XWjq)

563 Police have reportedly concluded their investigation:

http://bit.ly/mhf7Eq


Posted by: mama winger at June 11, 2011 12:43 PM (R9bQ9)

564

>>>You're banned. If this was Average Joe, you picked the wrong time to punk.

I don't think that is his hash, thank God.  

Anyway, I don't understand why people don't understand this Ace.  I know that I could never pull this site off in a million years so for me it's pretty damn easy to realize that I am a guest here.

Maybe you just make it look to easy - people should know better though.

Posted by: Roadking at June 11, 2011 12:43 PM (i0z6l)

565 I am sure this will all turn out to be a big misunderstanding.

Posted by: Disloyal But Addicted AoSHQ Reader at June 11, 2011 12:43 PM (v0pFT)

566

He'll claim medical.

A member claiming to be sick does not make him sick. He is not sick. He has not said he is seeing a "doctor." He has requewsted a leave of absence to (and I quote):

 " ... to focus on becoming a better husband and healthier person."

This clearly does not meet the threshold for the granting of a leave of absence by any reasonable definition. The member is obviously attemtping to defuse a politicial crisis of his own making by making a fraudulent request of the Speaker of the House.

The question now for reporters is: Will John Boehner grant Anthony Weiner's fraudulent request for a medical "leave of absence" when the member clearly is not sick, isn't claiming to be sick, isn't saying he intends to seek medical treatment and is attempting to defuse a political crisis due to his sexual exploits.

Will John Boehner save Anthony Weiner?

Posted by: someguy at June 11, 2011 12:44 PM (iIQ0a)

567

Okay, then maybe that statement at the top of the thread is a misnomer. Maybe it should say "account" instead of "computer."

Posted by: arhooley at June 11, 2011 04:38 PM (eNx0o)

Well that looks like its coming from a report on Fox.  I don't really expect a news report to get anything right when it comes to technical aspects of technology, even somethine widely used like the internet.  I mean they would probably think that my instant messages to friend on Windows Messenger were "deleted" because I don't have the history archiving turned on and conversations are deleted once the window is closed.

Posted by: buzzion at June 11, 2011 12:44 PM (oVQFe)

568

Hello

My name is Dead Ted.  I never claimed to support family values, or to be a life guard.

Amen brother.  You're saved.  Next

Posted by: Dem Rehab at June 11, 2011 12:44 PM (ucq49)

569 I didn't know this was in Delaware! You know what that means.............

Posted by: dagny at June 11, 2011 12:45 PM (vtCgA)

570 Sorry, Ace, it was me (1st and 3d letters of the 3d word of each sentence). If you truly want to be rid of me, you'll have to block the my wifi I.P. too (this one). I hope you won't. And if you unblock the the I.P. you did block, I promise to be good. But again, I'm sorry.

Posted by: Average Joe at June 11, 2011 12:45 PM (liBQN)

571 For fuck's sake, people - the least you can do when Ace says STFU is not waste his time arguing about whether or not you deserve to be told to STFU.

JUST STFU.

Posted by: an erection lasting more than four hours at June 11, 2011 12:45 PM (1c0W9)

572 "Police have reportedly concluded their investigation:"

Then that's that. If they had found anything even remotely stinky they would have been all over it...nothing like taking down a sitting congressman to boost the career.

That girl's got some rough days at school ahead of her.

Posted by: Sgt. York at June 11, 2011 12:45 PM (doQNd)

573 Mama Winger so that's that in the investigation. I wonder what prompted Nancy, and Debbie to turn on Weiner than? Something else coming out?

Posted by: Donna at June 11, 2011 12:46 PM (bdE9c)

574 Will John Boehner save Anthony Weiner? Posted by: someguy at June 11, 2011 04:44 PM (iIQ0a) If he does, my rapidly diminishing opinion for Boehner will completely disappear. Weiner should be expelled from the House, and perhaps prosecuted, depending on further police investigation.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 11, 2011 12:46 PM (UlUS4)

575 MDr, She's great. How's your Mrs? This thread is bringing back nightmares of ban talk followed by a long trudge to drive the post #s above 6000. Only have ~5500 posts to go.

Posted by: Grimjack at June 11, 2011 12:46 PM (4Tzsb)

576
I think the "pregnancy" is bogus.

I like to think I'm as cynical as the next guy, but I think the pregnancy is real. Moreover, I predict the kid will be born. This notion that fetuses are utterly disposable and worthless and unloved to every single Democrat on the planet including the parents isn't true.

Posted by: arhooley at June 11, 2011 12:46 PM (eNx0o)

577 Man, but Jim does have a way of saying things: 

ItÂ’s a good thing all these reporters and their crowdsourced assistants are sorting through all this stuff, or weÂ’d never know about PalinÂ’s completely unfounded suspicions that the media is obsessed with getting her.
Jim Treacher, Daily Trawler

Posted by: elspeth at June 11, 2011 12:46 PM (Z8oEZ)

578 I just want to know why Mary Cloggenstein of Brattleboro, VT hasn't set us straight on the important issues at stake here.

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at June 11, 2011 12:46 PM (2PTT7)

579

Fox analyst, "No treatment for being shameless." Heh.

"51% of constituents want him to stay." What is wrong with these people??" I ask rhetorically...

Posted by: Marybel at June 11, 2011 12:47 PM (Hic+o)

580 On FreeRepublic, there used to be a sort of ceremonial self-banning called an Opus.  One would post a new thread announcing all one's complaints and grievances, announce one's departure, and Jim Robinson would oblige with a zot-after which Freepers would desecrate your corpse.

Anyone else interested in doing that sort of thing?  Yeah, this would be the thread on which to self-immolate.

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at June 11, 2011 12:47 PM (agD4m)

581 "Police have reportedly concluded their investigation"

Looks like it is Ace's "option 3". Nothing illegal or sexual, just bad judgement.

Weiner's addiction is clearly having the adoration of young women, I wonder how you get treatment for that?

Posted by: Dave in Fla at June 11, 2011 12:47 PM (cSkZ5)

582 Average Joe, I won't ban, but honestly trolling the blog all the fucking time is getting old. You are driving commenters crazy. Right now I am really pissed. Have some sense, dude. This joke is wearing thin and this was a very bad time to do it. It was only because the claim was so ridiculous I realized it might be you. Save this joke for a rainy day and use it a little more sporadically, okay? The problem is that the joke is becoming a frequent threadjack.

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2011 12:47 PM (nj1bB)

583 And c'mon, the part about NRO being a substitute for AoSHQ was much more ridiculous than the Internet fees bit.

Posted by: Average Joe at June 11, 2011 12:47 PM (liBQN)

584 What is it about working in the shadow of the ban hammer that makes some want to post so bad? Is it the danger? The living life on the edge? I bet some of these guys haven't felt this alive since Charlie Johnson first went full-libtard.....

Posted by: Disloyal But Addicted AoSHQ Reader at June 11, 2011 12:48 PM (v0pFT)

585 Lesson learned.

Posted by: Average Joe at June 11, 2011 12:48 PM (liBQN)

586 And now almost all of my Saturday, my day off, has been spent babysitting this thread. And this is EXACTLY what I wanted to be doing, right?

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2011 12:48 PM (nj1bB)

587
...and a shirtless man with a large red axe...

~DailyMail online


Posted by: Stormy at June 11, 2011 12:48 PM (AZFgs)

588
 I'm not a very prolific commenter, but I have to say this--it's ACE'S turf--HE gets to set whatever rules he desires, whenever he desires to do it. Doesn't matter if you think they are authoritarian ar anything else. Y'all gotta respect the host.

 I've followed the Weiner stuff and never missed any of the warnings about subject matter--if a true redneck like me can do this, then you posters who damn sure have more intellectual chops can do the same. Might want to slow down and ponder the post before typing, perhaps.

  You may agree with this, dismiss it , flame it--your call.

Posted by: irongrampa at June 11, 2011 12:49 PM (ud5dN)

589 Agreed, when it comes to public figures. But the girl and her parents are private figures. They may be vile people, but are not in the arena with our public officials. We have to respect their privacy...

This is absolutely true- because they aren't Republicans, and won't possibly run against a cherished liberal politician at any time in the future.

Standards!

Posted by: Chariots of Toast at June 11, 2011 12:49 PM (XyjRQ)

590 Here's my $0.02: -Knew "sex rehab" was coming. . .said so here in the pre-Weiner confession thread. That was one of the last cards Weiner had left to play. -So-called "sex rehab" is nothing more than "paid reputation rehab", period. -Stipulating for the sake of argument that Weiner can't control his own sexual behavior and needs "rehab" to help him do so, that's even MORE reason for him to resign, not less. -As to this teenager, given Weiner's demonstrated lying here, and her reason to want to cover things up to (to avoid more personal embarassment), there NEEDS to be an outside investigation, to dig up all deleted conversations. -Even if there was NO explicitly sexual talk between the two of them whatever, ANY profanity laden private communication between the two of them would be highly inappropriate, and if it exists, he'd have to go. IMO likening this to "manslaughter" is a bit extreme. -At the same time, that sort of communication probably isn't illegal, so if it happened, it might not be made public in a CRIMINAL investigation. -Lastly, if none of his colleagues back him, he's basically toast. He might ride out this term without quitting, but he'll have a hell of a time getting the Dem nomination or any donations to back another run.

Posted by: looking closely at June 11, 2011 12:49 PM (f5t0O)

591
A member claiming to be sick does not make him sick.

That's why I note: he's undiagnosed. Not that that will stop him from claiming illness and Boehner from saying Okay like Principal Skinner hum-de-dumming as he accepts a badly-forged note from Bart Simpson.

Posted by: arhooley at June 11, 2011 12:50 PM (eNx0o)

592 583 - That was the part that tipped me

Posted by: twiceblessedmom at June 11, 2011 12:50 PM (HjxoE)

593 From now on, I will only offer effusive praise of Howie Kurtz when he truly earns it.

Posted by: Average Joe at June 11, 2011 12:50 PM (liBQN)

594  Will John Boehner save Anthony Weiner?

Posted by: someguy at June 11, 2011 04:44 PM (iIQ0a)



If he does, my rapidly diminishing opinion for Boehner will completely disappear. Weiner should be expelled from the House, and perhaps prosecuted, depending on further police investigation.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 11, 2011 04:46 PM (UlUS4)

Eh, my respect for Boehner has evaporated ever since the news came out that both he AND Kasich (I live in Kasich's former district) agreed to go golfing.

Really? Fucking really? I'm none too happy with Kasich right now either.

Posted by: ErikW at June 11, 2011 12:50 PM (AMe2R)

595 #570 Yeah, because if there is anything more necessary to enjoyment of one's favorite blog than adventures in amateur cryptography, I can't think of it.

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at June 11, 2011 12:50 PM (agD4m)

596 "And now almost all of my Saturday, my day off, has been spent babysitting this thread.

And this is EXACTLY what I wanted to be doing, right?"


Um...yes?

C'mon we're the cool kids. You know you like talkin' to us.

Posted by: Sgt. York at June 11, 2011 12:50 PM (doQNd)

597 If he does, my rapidly diminishing opinion for Boehner will completely disappear. Weiner should be expelled from the House, and perhaps prosecuted, depending on further police investigation.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 11, 2011 04:46 PM (UlUS4)

 

Actually, I'll disagree, even though I do think Weiner is a lying scumbag.  Sex Addiction is considered an illness.  A health article I scanned associates it with depression or bi-polar disorder.  So, if Congresspeople can get a LOA for an illness, then Weenie would qualify.  Whether or not he's being sincere is another story, but it's not a story for Boehner to sort through.  "I need a LOA, I need to be treated for an illness, sex addiction".  That's all Weiner has to say. 

Posted by: joejm65 at June 11, 2011 12:51 PM (BDB5n)

598 I noticed the ban warning after I posted something that probably violated Ace's request. I don't know how to delete a post here. It is not my intent to violate clear and reasonable rules. It is not ethical nor moral, all legal considerations to the side, to bring an underage person into these discussions. It's just not right and we need to leave the innocent people out of this.

Posted by: Full Moon at June 11, 2011 12:52 PM (m75CK)

599

Posted by: Grimjack at June 11, 2011 04:46 PM (4Tzsb)

Show me your BoobiesGate

Banhammer 1&2

Clean Up at the Disco.. etc  etc etc

Good times.

 

Posted by: MDr at June 11, 2011 12:52 PM (ucq49)

600 Balrog, I remember reading many Opuses (Opi) in my tine at FR, with some fool cutting their wrists and bleeding all over the keyboard about how they'd been done wrong, or whatever.  Good times, good times!  The Zot threads were fun, too.  I've got a whole photobucket page of "zot" pictures I used to post. 

Posted by: Theresa D. at June 11, 2011 12:52 PM (/XWjq)

601
I didn't know this was in Delaware! You know what that means.............
Posted by: dagny at June 11, 2011 04:45 PM

this is the second "location" clue I've seen. Color me stupid, but . . . what does it mean? The only associations I know are Joe Biden and Christine O'Donnell.

Posted by: arhooley at June 11, 2011 12:53 PM (eNx0o)

602 I saw that AP report saying the investigation was completed last night but since then there have been other reports including the info that tweets have been deleted etc. So maybe it's the local police or maybe it's the AP or maybe it's even right but I'm not sure it's the final word.

Posted by: jeannebodine at June 11, 2011 12:53 PM (nvlAW)

603 And this is EXACTLY what I wanted to be doing, right? Oh come on Ace. Where else would you rather be? Out there in the sun with the jocks and cool crowd? Going to the beach or the lake or to parties and getting laid by hot girls? You're one of us, my pasty hirsute friend... You're one of us....

Posted by: Kasper Hauser. at June 11, 2011 12:54 PM (v0pFT)

604 Or maybe that AP report was from this morning. Anyway I don't know if it's the final word.

Posted by: jeannebodine at June 11, 2011 12:55 PM (nvlAW)

605 New thread up. Police seem to be saying there's nothing here.

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2011 12:55 PM (nj1bB)

606 586 And now almost all of my Saturday, my day off, has been spent babysitting this thread.

And this is EXACTLY what I wanted to be doing, right?

Builds character.


Posted by: Barbarian at June 11, 2011 12:56 PM (EL+OC)

607 "And now almost all of my Saturday, my day off, has been spent babysitting this thread.

And this is EXACTLY what I wanted to be doing, right"

If I were you I'd just dump it or lock it down. Life is too short. Do you not have another admin that could take over for a while?

Posted by: WaltzingMtilda at June 11, 2011 12:56 PM (60nMH)

608 The investigation is over....

http://bit.ly/kmokaw

Someone needs to ask if they got the records off of twitter or if they just tried to get them off her computer...

Posted by: soren at June 11, 2011 12:57 PM (oioS4)

609
I don't really expect a news report to get anything right when it comes to technical aspects of technology

Ne meither.

Posted by: arhooley at June 11, 2011 12:57 PM (eNx0o)

610

Yeah, because if there is anything more necessary to enjoyment of one's favorite blog than adventures in amateur cryptography, I can't think of it.

J upubmmz bhsff.

Posted by: GjsfIpstf at June 11, 2011 12:59 PM (Rq1/g)

611 What is the point of this thread?  To bait these morons into doing exactly what they do best?

Why tell everyone you know something but can't talk about it?  Just to get on the record that you have inside info?  And then ban people for speculating on the hints and innuendos?

Maybe I am missing some subtleness here or something and probably shouldn't even be making this comment.. but I don't get it.

Can't you do a post and shut down comments?  That would seem to be a safer course of action if the post was necessary to further the case..

At this point, we should all just wait and see how this plays out.  I have encountered pervs like this many years ago on irc.. it is more likely than not there is much more activity below the surface than above.. all will come out in due time.


Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at June 11, 2011 12:59 PM (qsodE)

612 Seems as if Huma is driving the boat.  Mr Weiner is a little punch drunk at the moment, having taken one to the body from Madmouth Debbie, but he and Huma are of one mind now, and that is to stay the course.

So what if no one speaks to him on the floor for a while?  They did not speak much before.

This political soap opera is a far more entertaining thing, with far worse things done or ever said, than anything ever conceived by the MFM for Sarah Palin.

If Weiner stays by doing a leave, and life goes on, the story does not die.  It sticks around for a while.  A long while.

And if Jon Stewart and SNL aren't doing biting riffs about this, for show after show after show, as Ms Fey and company did with Palin, it will be a silence that will be deafening.  Deafening.

And you know what?  I think they won't do the comedy.  The remarks from Jeanine Garofolo were quite telling in this regard.


Posted by: I'm in a New York state of mind at June 11, 2011 12:59 PM (4sQwu)

613 Will John Boehner save Anthony Weiner?
Posted by: someguy at June 11, 2011 04:44 PM (iIQ0a)


He could make it a two-fer and blubber like a little baby while doing it.

Posted by: somebody else, not me at June 11, 2011 01:00 PM (7EV/g)

614

"what does it mean? The only associations I know are Joe Biden and Christine O'Donnell."

Chris (the cops' main man) Coons. 

Posted by: But what do I know at June 11, 2011 01:04 PM (ucq49)

615 It would be sweet if the libs' 180° was driven by constituent pressure. Oh, oh, the conflict for Nancy Fancy Pants & Co. She might be awake an extra 20 seconds before the booze + sleeping pill(s) kick in.

Posted by: Marybel at June 11, 2011 01:05 PM (Hic+o)

616 Ace why don't you just put up a post about football or something? Not trying to tell you how to do your job but it seems this thread has all the elegance of two monkeys fucking a football.

Posted by: Mr Pink at June 11, 2011 01:05 PM (RpwJp)

617 I want to know, and wonder if I ever will, or if even anyone in a position to get an answer will ask, if twitter and the phone  text records were a. requested b. provided  c. reviewed.  All of them, included any deleted -by-either-account-holder ones.

I don't assume any or all of the above to have taken place, or have much hope that it ever will.

(Including the asking if anything on that list above ever happened.)

The world is on warning about Weiner.  That is the best the world would ever get, anyway.    He won't stop being who he is, rehab and all,  and the Dems protect and lift him up at their own peril.

Posted by: SarahW at June 11, 2011 01:06 PM (Z4T49)

618 Breitbart if you happen to stop by to gawk at our strangely insane  comments !!! please read post before commenting , Ace's working hard over here.

trying to lighten the mood

Posted by: willow at June 11, 2011 01:08 PM (h+qn8)

619

"...the elegance of two monkeys fucking a football."

See!  See!  There you went and did it.  Inciting the pervs.  Giving them cover.  KSM.  AB.  AFW. BC.  All looking for anything that moves, that one could "reasonably" mistake for a "football"

Posted by: But what do I know at June 11, 2011 01:11 PM (ucq49)

620

I've read the whole thread and I've decided, conclusively, without a qualm, and beyond all points of no-return that I will never, ever....finish this sentence. 

Actually, I'm just skimming all the ban-talk. What a shitshow. Might've been easier to start out with a "refer to her never or as the "victim/Tweet recipient" only" disclaimer or something. Took me three reads to figure out who had crossed what lines. Still not sure I get it.

Anyway, everyone should chill and drink something good tonight. Weiner is circling the bowl one way or another.

Posted by: Lincolntf at June 11, 2011 01:19 PM (Z05lF)

621 Couldn't that deleted conversation have been recoverable through either computer forensics on her computer, or through the host's servers? She would have had to have shredded it using mil-spec standards and then overwritten it to make it irrecoverable.

Posted by: OxyCon at June 11, 2011 01:20 PM (Kmnf5)

622

This thrread reminds me of the warning issued to Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden:  Eat all the fruit you want, but don't eat thr fruit from this ONE tree.  ace has made clear here what his 'fruiit of one tree' is, so don't go there.  Why fuck up the blogging Garden of Eden that is AofSHQ?

Besides, why blame the victim?  A high school kid is always the victim in dealings with a 46-year-old pervert, no matter what trite or lame excuse the perv trots out when caught.

Posted by: RickZ at June 11, 2011 01:35 PM (qEac9)

623
SarahW:  Yeah, I have problems believing an investigation of a computer could be completed so quickly.

Posted by: mike at June 11, 2011 01:39 PM (eZ5Jk)

624 I don't understand why it seems so difficult to understand Ace's ground rules.  We don't HAVE to comment here, and Ace graciously (and normally with minimal intrusive oversight) ALLOWS us to comment here.  If you are new to this blog, perhaps you might misunderstand things, but if you are new, you should probably STFU until you understand the dance steps here.

Oh, and get off Ace's lawn.

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 11, 2011 01:44 PM (yrGif)

625 The man is a pedophile.....End. Of. Sentence. There is no 'cure' for pedophilia simply because the pedophile believes he's above any or all societal criticism or challenge. (Google this if you don't believe me)

BTW: True pedophilia is a male sexual aberration (100% of the time)

Saw a great blog on another site: "Wiener wants to enter a rehabilitation site  to cure  his compulsion  in stalking 17 yr olds???  Then send him to jail! That's why his targets are called 'Jail Bait'

Posted by: alwyr at June 11, 2011 01:46 PM (w2++y)

626

Whether or not one chooses to request a Leave of Absence, a Member may wish to prepare a statement on how he/she would have voted on the votes that were missed.

One wonders what the purpose of that is?
--------

Having a non-record record to run on?

Posted by: RickZ at June 11, 2011 01:47 PM (qEac9)

627

Weiner is taking a LOA as a dodge to duck the media storm and attempt to remain incommunicado until some other story can eclipse his personal scandal.

After the police investigation has come to a dead end, Weiner will return and there won't be anything new to add to the affair to breath new life into the story.

JMO

Posted by: Speller at June 11, 2011 01:52 PM (J74Py)

628

After the police investigation has come to a dead end, Weiner will return and there won't be anything new to add to the affair to breath new life into the story.

JMO

Posted by: Speller at June 11, 2011 05:52 PM (J74Py)

I taught him well. He'll be on to waitress sandwiches in no time! 

Posted by: zombie Ted Kennedy at June 11, 2011 02:17 PM (XthHy)

629 They tried to make me go to rehab, I said, "No, no, no" It was just technology,...Attacking me. Like my Tivo-vo-vo Maybe my Facebook was hacked Maybe that ain’t my Johnson, Jack Breitbart wants me in rehab, but I won't go, go, go I'd rather be on MSNBC G-damning the GOP 'Cause there's nothing, there's nothing you can teach me That I can't learn from Mr. Saul Alinski.. I didn't get none in class But this is “Congress” They tried to make me go to rehab, I said, "No, no, no" Maybe, I did the Tweet...and it was not of my feet As you know know, know, Both the New York Times And Alec Baldwin think I'm fine Hillary wants me go to rehab, but I won't go, go, go The man says “Did you Tweet?” I said “No, she was following me” "I'm gonna, I'm gonna lose my Congress Seat So I always keep Dave Shuster near. He said, "I just think you function high Tweet me, and make it “above the thigh" They tried to make me go to rehab, I said, "No, no, no" Not sure if that photo’s me…. Besides I the next Kennedy I don't ever wanna Tweet again I just, ooh, I just need some new Facebook friends..

Posted by: A. WeinerHouse at June 11, 2011 02:29 PM (v0pFT)

630 8 Yes, just because you delete something doesn't make it go away. This is probably why all his "peers" are jumping on the resignation bandwagon .
-------------   most likely his peers know that their fellow dems have alot to hide that has not yet been discovered. Nancy Alzhiemer and dum dum Debbie know there are more things Weiner is hiding that have not been discovered....yet. but with each passing day, increases the chance that the rest of the scumbag things this guy has done will get discovered. Thankfully, It's going to take alot of the Dems down in 2012 as it stands.. if they think 2010 was a shellacking, they haven't seen anything yet   They can count on Pravda to not report but they can't keep alot of other people from digging and getting the info on the internet and letting people know.

Posted by: ex Dem at June 11, 2011 03:05 PM (LO+hL)

631 remember what the door mouse said
"Tweet Your Head"

Posted by: visla at June 11, 2011 03:33 PM (SawUo)

632 Wow, I'm gone for a day and all this news dumps and Ace starts swinging the Barbed Cock of Satan around... ... Is it still safe to talk about longbows?

Posted by: cheshirecat at June 11, 2011 05:41 PM (r2SLq)

633 Sources said much of the conversations between Weiner and the high schooler had been deleted from the girl's computer.

It seems any incriminating stuff that may have existed is now Kaput. Ha ha ha.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at June 11, 2011 07:06 PM (Y1gzX)

634 possibly the stupidest thread I have ever read here. Let me ask a real question. You know that coffee-cup full of water that sits at the bottom of the low flow crapper? It guarantees that shit will stick to the side of the bowl. Even if you train yourself to aim. Now everbody has a little brush sitting by the potty. great. The question- Do ya'll think that maybe somewhere some slimy little envirofascist is wringing his or her hands in joy over the thought that people everywhere are scrubbin poop out of their own toilets? Can I be banned just for thinkin this?

Posted by: Artruen at June 11, 2011 08:18 PM (QpiBw)

635 Whoa - slinking towards Weinergeddon with already over 600 posts. So, I expect everything that needs be stated has been, including mainly this (posted out of insecurity): I really don't think we have any right to feel confident Weiner is committed WHOLEY to treatment - certainly three or so of his extremeties, but beyond that, not buying any of it. Tho I like tens of millions will of course look forward to him waiving the 'clean bill of health' paper - might even get twitter-fed, as a wiped-clean e-bill of twit-health. Make sure the wipes get biohazard disposed.

Posted by: Rex the Wonder God at June 11, 2011 10:08 PM (NHeC0)

636 whoa there Rex, I was last. Until you. And now again. Hah.

Posted by: Artruen at June 12, 2011 04:58 AM (QpiBw)

637 Does anyone know what state/locale Weiner was in when he tweeted, DM'ed? I guess this means someone needs to file a complaint in that area?

Posted by: Baldy at June 12, 2011 05:01 AM (EJr09)

638 i have liked this site too much i need more informative and helpful and nice topics here ...
thanks for having nice time

Posted by: urdu tutorial at June 12, 2011 07:10 AM (e4WFu)

639 I hopped into an internet chat room. Being rusty at this sort of thing, I didn't expect much to happen. But within a very short time, I encountered a married woman from Tennessee who expressed some dissatisfaction with her husband. To use phrasing that a writer for the International Business Times might understand, it has been suggested that affairs outside of matrimony had occurred in her past and might occur in her future. Already, I was starting to feel victimized. And then she sent me a photo of herself in a bikini. Oh god. Oh god. There it was, happening on screen right in front of my eyes. SHE VICTIMIZED ME! Understand: Throughout this session, she never received a single image from me. Worse, she never asked for proof of my claimed age. She had only my word that I was above the age of consent. In other words, she's a pedophile! The agonizing ordeal of victimization continued. She forced me to accept a series of increasingly intimate photographs. First the tight dress... Then the lacy nightie... Then the fetishy maid's uniform. I was being cyber-raped. Over and over. Nothing could forestall this onslaught. What could I do during this ordeal, except repeat the Ave Maria while praying for a quick demise? When she sent the face-down-in-bed image (it has been suggested that the underwear was skimpy), I knew precisely what those poor people in the Warsaw Ghetto must have experienced. For long, unbearable minutes, she offered a gruesome description of how she planned to victimize me with her mouth. Then came the ultimate act of victimization. She sent me a frontal shot of herself with her 38D breasts fully exposed! Humiliated and horrified, I could feel tears of shame burning my cheeks. Even after the ordeal was over, I remained curled up in a fetal position for an hour, screaming in psychic agony. Yes, such cruelty does exist in this world. I know. I know all too well. For I, too, am a victim. It has been suggested that I now have no choice but to reveal this woman's identity to the world -- to her employer, to her children and to her husband. That reaction would be justified, don't you think? Obviously, she had no reason to expect discretion. Speaking as a victim, I feel entirely justified in revealing this woman's face. And real name. Perhaps a log of her chat. Phone number. Exact street address. A Google Street View image of the front door of her house. What do you think? It has been suggested that there is no other way to stop the victimization.

Posted by: Cholo at June 12, 2011 01:38 PM (nI/Gw)

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