June 24, 2011

Delta: Innocent?
— Ace

I don't know exactly what's going on here, but you can read Delta's statement at NRO.

I have to tell you I am not liking this story, given that WND was the "media" operation pushing it.

They're only about two things: 1, OUTRAGE!, and 2, traffic derived from OUTRAGE!

Posted by: Ace at 08:18 AM | Comments (129)
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1 Well, they've gone from proudly touting their new relationship to issuing revised statements about how "meh" the relationship is. 


Posted by: Y-not at June 24, 2011 08:20 AM (TFxd0)

2 Didn't Delta release a statement shortly after getting their ass kicked by a Reuters article?  When Reuters notices your anti-semiitc policies...

Posted by: Truman North at June 24, 2011 08:22 AM (K2wpv)

3 David Kopel at Volokh:

I would have preferred an answer to the effect of “We have confirmed that Saudi Arabia does not discriminate against Jewish visitors, or people who have visited Israel, and we would never partner with an airline which would require us to enforce such reprehensible policies.”

Saudi Arabian Airlines is government-owned (with some ancillary services, such as catering, being privatized). Delta Airlines is exercising a choice to make its employees complicit in the enforcement of the Saudi governmentÂ’s policies of hatred and discrimination against anyone who visits Israel. If DeltaÂ’s business alliance with the Saudi government is conditional on that government not reinstating a formal ban on all Jewish visitors, Delta has not taken the opportunity to say so. When I travel, I will exercise my own choice not to fly Delta.

Posted by: Y-not at June 24, 2011 08:22 AM (TFxd0)

4

However... this new statement is unequivocal, and sounds pretty good to me.

I wonder how hard their phones got pounded yesterday.

Posted by: Truman North at June 24, 2011 08:23 AM (K2wpv)

5 Remember when it was hip to not do business with asshole countries?  Good times, good times. 

Posted by: Y-not at June 24, 2011 08:23 AM (TFxd0)

6 Yeah, it seems there's less to this than meets the eye.

Posted by: toby928™ at June 24, 2011 08:24 AM (GTbGH)

7

Abdhul?  Sorry but we're gonna have to put the new agreement on the back burner for a couple of weeks... dam bloggers heard about it...

Yeah... I know... I know... we still want to do this, and heck, we can continue forward with the preliminary implementation steps... but we need to wait until the Press gets distracted by somthing else....

After all... they didn't lambaste United like they are us... so just give it a couple of weeks... OK ole buddy?

Posted by: Executive VP, Delta Airlines at June 24, 2011 08:24 AM (NtXW4)

8

OT from the sidebar:

At last weekendÂ’s Netroots Nation gathering in Minneapolis, liberal activists expressed frustration that they lacked the political power or media focus given to the conservative tea-party movement.

 

Really? Really??

 

Posted by: Truman North at June 24, 2011 08:24 AM (K2wpv)

9 I love NRO's Captcha setup.  'step back', indeed...

Posted by: AoSHQ's *second* worst commenter, DarkLord© at June 24, 2011 08:25 AM (GBXon)

10

DeltaÂ’s only agreement with Saudi Arabian Airlines is a standard industry interline agreement, which allows passengers to book tickets on multiple carriers, similar to the standard interline agreements American Airlines, US Airways and Alaska Airlines have with Saudi Arabian Airlines.

All of the three global airline alliances – Star, which includes United Airlines; oneworld, which includes American Airlines, and SkyTeam, which includes Delta – have members that fly to Saudi Arabia and are subject to that country’s rules governing entry.

1.It would depend upon what requirements in place at this global Alliance. My cursory guess is that if they post the laws of Saudi Arabia, then it's legal. If they have steps in the booking process that ask, Sind Sie ein Juden? Then there is an issue.

2. Note that they stress "standard industry agreement". Would this joker enter into a "standard agreement" that had carriers forbidding muslims? I rather doubt that he'll vounteer that information in a statement. Will anyone ask him that question?

Posted by: Boris Badanov at June 24, 2011 08:25 AM (6rX0K)

11 They're out looking for the real fliers.

In all seriousness, you f*cked up, you trusted WorldNetDaily.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at June 24, 2011 08:25 AM (6ATVV)

12 At least all the stewards are GAY

Posted by: SouthWest Pilot at June 24, 2011 08:26 AM (V92KK)

13 Thank God this blog is an outrage-free zone.

Posted by: Average Joe at June 24, 2011 08:26 AM (bN5ZU)

14 FTR-United, American and US Airways have been doing similar things for years. I'm guessing they are very happy that World Net Daily was too stupid to notice.

Posted by: DrewM. at June 24, 2011 08:26 AM (Ccb4c)

15 liberal activists expressed frustration that they lacked the political power or media focus given to the conservative tea-party movement.

 Yeah.. maybe because they're fucking loons???

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at June 24, 2011 08:27 AM (f9c2L)

16

"In all seriousness, you f*cked up, you trusted WorldNetDaily."

My advice to you:  Start drinking heavily.  [hands ace a sixpack].

Posted by: Bluto at June 24, 2011 08:27 AM (Orc9J)

17 At last weekendÂ’s Netroots Nation gathering in Minneapolis, liberal activists expressed frustration that they lacked the political power or media focus given to the conservative tea-party movement. Plus, the Coffee Party is sucking up all the attention on their side of the aisle.

Posted by: Average Joe at June 24, 2011 08:28 AM (bN5ZU)

18 OT- The House has voted to defund military operations in Libya, coming shortly after a bill sponsored by Rep. Alcee Hastings (D-FL) supporting Obama on Libya failed by about 295-123.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at June 24, 2011 08:28 AM (JqpkY)

19 They may have been able to spin this, but the facts about Saudi practices are too well known.

It was a very bad move to allow them into their alliance.

It is indeed an alliance with the devil himself.

Posted by: George Washington at June 24, 2011 08:28 AM (y0VOX)

20 NoLabels is dead too?

Posted by: toby928™ at June 24, 2011 08:28 AM (GTbGH)

21 FTR-United, American and US Airwayshave been doing similar things for years. I'm guessing they are very happy that World Net Daily was too stupid to notice.

Posted by: DrewM

 

What was the policy of these airlines toward South Africa in the era when Mandela was the wonderful terrorist who would cheer on people being stuffed into tires and immolated? Were they in any agreements with the South African airlines then? How about landing rights?

Posted by: Boris Badanov at June 24, 2011 08:29 AM (6rX0K)

22

When we were kicking this around yesterday, I suggested it might be much ado about nothing.  Every airline that flies international routes is required by the destination country to ensure the traveler posseses documents that comply with their Customs and regulations for travel.

Now, I don't "know" Saudi expressly forbids Israeli passport holders legal entry (it wouldn't surprise me, and yeah, it's also shitty, but whatever).  If it's true, then every airline that flies to Jeddah would enforce that at the gate.

I could not enter Taiwan or Brazil without a valid passport and a work visa.  I would not have been given boarding passes.

If Delta chose some kind of partnership arrangement, that's a little different (code-sharing isn't that), and of course Delta is free to decide "fuck it, we won't go there then, but it hardly makes them any more complicit than any other inbound airline.  They're all doin the same thing.

Posted by: Dave in Texas at June 24, 2011 08:29 AM (WvXvd)

23 I guess now I'll have to go back to just hating Delta for their crappy service and lousy pricing.

Posted by: Joe Mama at June 24, 2011 08:30 AM (CYoZS)

24 I really don't see what Delta's problem is in the entire story anyway. Saudi Arabia has discriminatory policies. Airlines that serve their country are expected to follow them. How is this different from, say, if the US passed some embargo act against a country and imposed a fine on any airlines that brought people or goods from the embargoed country into the US? Airlines would almost certainly respond by saying "it would be illegal for us to carry you into the US" to certain potential customers outside the US. But can you really blame the airlines for that? Seems like killing the messenger to me - the real target for the blame (or at least judgment of whether the policy is blameworthy) should be whatever government put the policies into place in the first instance, not the corporation that was forced to adhere to them.

Posted by: sayyid412 at June 24, 2011 08:30 AM (wH1Oc)

25 It is doubtful that any kind of ‘liberalÂ’ tea party would be very effective because liberals by nature, are deficient in the character traits that make tea party members so focused. Most liberals, for example, do not want to control anyoneÂ’s life, preferring to exhibit tolerance on many different social issues. In fact, many liberals donÂ’t even agree with all the issues, but that disagreement is acceptable to them. The same cannot be said about tea party members and that is why they are much more effective. 
 
For a liberal tea party to exist it would have to build a foundation on fear, distrust, and intolerance. That would be hard to do because many of them could care less about who you are, where you came from, what you worship, or what your children do on camping trips. Even the issue of taxes would not become a single focus because many liberals appreciate flushing their toilets based on socialist constructs.

Posted by: Kay in Maine at June 24, 2011 08:32 AM (K2wpv)

26 In all seriousness, you f*cked up, you trusted WorldNetDaily.

I think it hit our radar via USA Today, didn't it?

Posted by: Y-not at June 24, 2011 08:32 AM (TFxd0)

27

The posts decrying this were still made in good faith after:

1. Delta proudly touted the story.

2. USAToday posted about it, then quickly deleted the post.

3. Delta backpedals after the shit hits the fan.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 24, 2011 08:33 AM (zgZzy)

28 Posted by: Kay in Maine

No way that's kay.

Posted by: toby928™ at June 24, 2011 08:33 AM (GTbGH)

29 Be careful who your friends are because you will be know by their reputation, so this just goes to show that if you stand for nothing you will fall for anything.

Posted by: Sandy Salt at June 24, 2011 08:34 AM (iGZkF)

30

25 It is doubtful that any kind of ‘liberal’ tea party would be very effective because liberals by nature, are deficient in the character traits that make tea party members so focused.

 

Yeah, like honesty, hard work, pride in their country . . .

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 24, 2011 08:34 AM (zgZzy)

31 Meh. Though apparently Indonesia has banned its citizens from going to Saudi Arabia as domestic servants after one of the Indonesian domestics killed her abusive employer. The Saudis, always cognizant of world opinion, chopped her head off and then told the Indonesian gov't what they had done.

Posted by: Penfold at June 24, 2011 08:35 AM (1PeEC)

32

What was Delta's policy vis a vis South Africa, before the ANC won?

What is Delta's policy now?

Are they different?

If so, why?

Posted by: Boris Badanov at June 24, 2011 08:35 AM (6rX0K)

33 True or not, riffing on it was enjoyable.

Posted by: Ben at June 24, 2011 08:36 AM (wuv1c)

34
Remember CHUCK NORRIS in DELTA FORCE?

Posted by: Soothsayerwing Plover at June 24, 2011 08:36 AM (sqkOB)

35 I think we can all agree Delta has a lousy PR department. 


And I still agree with the guy from Volokh.  It's Delta's choice to do business with these knuckle-draggers, so they deserve the blow-back they get. 

Posted by: Y-not at June 24, 2011 08:37 AM (TFxd0)

36 Posted by: Kay in Maine at June 24, 2011 12:32 PM (K2wpv) Nice job with the cut'n'paste.

Posted by: Fake Ace at June 24, 2011 08:38 AM (lT0LC)

37 18 OT- The House has voted to defund military operations in Libya, coming shortly after a bill sponsored by Rep. Alcee Hastings (D-FL) supporting Obama on Libya failed by about 295-123.

Sweet.  One less illegal war for oil

Posted by: Truman North at June 24, 2011 08:39 AM (K2wpv)

Posted by: The Liberal Tea Party at June 24, 2011 08:40 AM (6ATVV)

39 It's Delta's choice to do business with these knuckle-draggers, so they deserve the blow-back they get.
Posted by: Y-not at June 24, 2011 12:37 PM (TFxd0)

That's why I didn't defend them as part of Ace's original post yesterday when he invited me to.  You do business with stone age fucktards, this is what you get.

On the other hand, let's not pretend Delta is the only airline or company doing business there either.

Posted by: DrewM. at June 24, 2011 08:40 AM (Ccb4c)

40 NoLabels is dead too?

Yeah the no demonizing civility movement lasted about as long as an isomeric transition half life on a D shell transuranic ; For the brief few seconds between the Giffords incident and the need to demonize republicans in Wisconsin. If you didn't have special equipment to detect it you missed it.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at June 24, 2011 08:40 AM (0q2P7)

41 I don't know exactly what's going on here

:-o

Posted by: Slack-Jawed Inbred at June 24, 2011 08:41 AM (wOaLi)

42 It doesn't seem that they are innocent so much as they are backpedaling at the unexpected! outrage of the public. Their first answers to people questioning them were of the "we do not control Saudi Arabian law or policy" variety rather than a flat denial that they had plans to code share with Saudi Arabian airlines. I think if they were truly innocent, rather than trying to do damage control, they would have gone straight to an unequivocal denial. I think they were caught flatfooted because they did not expect people to be outraged by discrimination mainly aimed at the Israel and anyone who has ever traveled there. 

Posted by: complying with evil at June 24, 2011 08:41 AM (NpRlM)

43

If you didn't have special equipment to detect it you missed it.

That's why I throw every liberal I can find into a simming pool, filled with dry cleaning fluid, at the bottom of a coal mine in Utah.

Posted by: Truman North at June 24, 2011 08:42 AM (K2wpv)

44 It's Delta's choice to do business with these knuckle-draggers, so they deserve the blow-back they get. Posted by: Y-not at June 24, 2011 12:37 PM (TFxd0) But enough about the TSA . . .

Posted by: Fake Ace at June 24, 2011 08:42 AM (lT0LC)

45 NoLabels is dead too?

Yeah the no demonizing civility movement lasted about as long as an isomeric transition half life on a D shell transuranic ; For the brief few seconds between the Giffords incident and the need to demonize republicans in Wisconsin. If you didn't have special equipment to detect it you missed it.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose

 

How dare you sneer at the sacred movement to transcend petty politics. Whose side are you on?

Posted by: The Hildabeast at June 24, 2011 08:43 AM (6rX0K)

46

They're only about two things: 1, OUTRAGE!, and 2, traffic derived from OUTRAGE!

They hired Allahpundit?

Posted by: nickless at June 24, 2011 08:43 AM (MMC8r)

47 @ 25--Jesus, AJ, that MUST have hurt your brain composing that one.

Posted by: irongrampa at June 24, 2011 08:43 AM (ud5dN)

48 The bottom line:  drill here, drill now, build more nuke plants, and then no one will care about Saudi Arabia.

Posted by: SFGoth at June 24, 2011 08:45 AM (dZ756)

49 But enough about the TSA . . .

Posted by: Fake Ace at June 24, 2011 12:42 PM (lT0LC)

Hey now... we're legit... we're... Unioinized!

Posted by: TSA at June 24, 2011 08:45 AM (NtXW4)

50 "Our customers."

If we don't let you fly,  you're not "our customer".


I am a skeptical mother effer.

Posted by: Dang at June 24, 2011 08:46 AM (TXKVh)

51 And I still agree with the guy from Volokh.  It's Delta's choice to do business with these knuckle-draggers, so they deserve the blow-back they get. 

Posted by: Y-not at June 24, 2011 12:37 PM (TFxd0)

Yeah, that's the way I feel, too.  Their "partnerships" are supposed to be PR plusses and they market them as if the airlines go out for blow and hookers together.  I'm sure there is a lot of demand for DTW to Jeddah through Amsterdam.

But JFK airport lets Saudi Arabian Airlines fly directly from their airport, with a ticketing desk and everything.

Posted by: AmishDude at June 24, 2011 08:46 AM (73tyQ)

52 Don't worry about creeping Sharia in the US, it is way past the creeping stage.  Good thing they are practitioners of the religion of pieces, else we would be in real trouble.
I can understand that airlines have to comply with regulations at the destination airfield; however, I don't think that US airlines HAVE to provide service to trogolodyte destinations that are beholden to 7th century discriminatory practices.
It would have been most rewarding to see all US airlines refuse to provide service to the Saudis as a matter of principle. 
One thing Marx got right was that capitalists (especially crony capitalists) will sell rope to the hangman that will eventually hang them.

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 24, 2011 08:47 AM (yrGif)

53

When I want reputable news I can trust, WND is the first organization that comes to mind.

How's Joseph Farrah's book doing btw?

Posted by: Ben at June 24, 2011 08:47 AM (wuv1c)

54

"No way that's kay."

I'd check every third letter of the 12th word in the 32nd sentence of the 8th paragraph before you all start responding :-)

I smell a trap.

Posted by: Bosk at June 24, 2011 08:47 AM (n2K+4)

55 Most liberals, for example, do not want to control anyoneÂ’s life, preferring to exhibit tolerance on many different social issues

Great. Whatever. Pass the salt please.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at June 24, 2011 08:48 AM (0q2P7)

56  "Most liberals, for example, do not want to control anyoneÂ’s life... "

Really?  I mean,  really?

Posted by: Dang at June 24, 2011 08:49 AM (TXKVh)

57 @39
Someone at NRO (in the comments) reminds us that Delta is the one with the troop baggage charge debaucle, too. 

@
42
Yep, I agree.  That first statement was patronizing and weaselly. 


Our government may have to play ball with the Saudis for economic or security reasons, but individuals and most companies do not.  It's time to freeze them out.  If they don't want to be part of modern society, let's help them achieve that. 

Posted by: Y-not at June 24, 2011 08:49 AM (TFxd0)

58 Most liberals, for example, do not want to control anyoneÂ’s life, preferring to exhibit tolerance on many different social issues

Great. Whatever. Pass the salt please.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose

 

Is this bullshit from average joe? Or just bullshit?

Posted by: The Hildabeast at June 24, 2011 08:50 AM (6rX0K)

59 liberal activists expressed frustration that they lacked the political power or media focus given to the conservative tea-party movement.

 Yeah.. maybe because they're fucking loons???

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at June 24, 2011 12:27 PM (f9c2L)

Also because it's kind of hard to type when the pot fog obscures your view of the monitor.

Just sayin'

Posted by: Nighthawk at June 24, 2011 08:50 AM (OtQXp)

60  12 At least all the stewards are GAY Posted by: SouthWest Pilot

We prefer the term "Sky Waiters"!

Posted by: The Gay Sky Waiters at June 24, 2011 08:51 AM (TXKVh)

61 From Patterico

Nikki Revealed: For Real Filed under: General — Stranahan @ 9:46 am 

IÂ’m doing at radio show at Noon Central (1 East, 11 Mountain, 10 Pacific) where IÂ’m going to reveal the read, confirmed person behind the Nikki Reid account  — and probably Patriot as well. 

Conjecture is over. 

Listen here.  - Lee Stranahan

Posted by: toby928™ at June 24, 2011 08:51 AM (GTbGH)

62 "Most liberals, for example, do not want to control anyoneÂ’s life... " I agree, Just their food, water, electricity, fuel, healthcare, car, guns..........................But never their life.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at June 24, 2011 08:51 AM (NtTkA)

63 The Left's 'Tea Party' is the Union thugs, the commie-organizers, the NoJusticeNoPizza crowd, the Anarchists, the 'We're Here, We're Queers,' the Code Pinks, etc., etc., etc.

They've got their Tea Party, ever since the 60s, even back to the 30s.  They're angry, they're violent, they're passe, and they've made everyone sick of them.

Posted by: nickless at June 24, 2011 08:52 AM (MMC8r)

64 .But never their life.

*cough*

Posted by: Death Panels at June 24, 2011 08:52 AM (GTbGH)

65 Is this bullshit from average joe? Or just bullshit?


Looks like a moron PWN.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at June 24, 2011 08:52 AM (0q2P7)

66

OT - House rejects measure to continue US role in Libya.

WASHINGTON (AP) — The House has voted down a measure giving President Barack Obama the authority to continue the U.S. military action against Libya.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at June 24, 2011 08:52 AM (9hSKh)

67 I agree, Just their food, water, electricity, fuel, healthcare, car, guns..........................But never their life.


?

Posted by: aborted baby at June 24, 2011 08:52 AM (TFxd0)

68 O/T, Michael Medved has an article linked at HA discussing the possibility that BtotheO runs again in 2016 if he loses in 2012.  And, the one who shall not be spoken of runs in 2016 if BtotheO holds on in 2012.

Don't read it if you've already eaten.  However, if you haven't eaten and are looking to cut back, this will certainly dim the appetite. 

Posted by: The Hammer at June 24, 2011 08:53 AM (32ubA)

69 64, Is that you Sarah? you got me again my Queen.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at June 24, 2011 08:53 AM (NtTkA)

70 Most liberals, for example, do not want to control anyoneÂ’s life, preferring to exhibit tolerance on many different social issues

Great. Whatever. Pass the salt please.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose

ARREST THIS MAN!

Posted by: Bloomberg at June 24, 2011 08:53 AM (MMC8r)

71

I smell a trap.

Posted by: Bosk

IT'S A TRAP!!

Posted by: ADM. Akbar at June 24, 2011 08:53 AM (fPOY0)

72 I used to think 'Don't Expect Luggage To Arrive' was just a mediocre attempt at humor.  Then I flew Delta and realized how true and unfunny it was.

Posted by: yinzer at June 24, 2011 08:55 AM (/Mla1)

73

IT'S A TRAP!!

Posted by: ADM. Akbar at June 24, 2011 12:53 PM (fPOY0)

But, is it a Trap Trap?

Posted by: Whoopi at June 24, 2011 08:55 AM (NtXW4)

74

Posted by: Kay in Maine at June 24, 2011 12:32 PM (K2wpv)

 

nice pawn Truman North

Posted by: Ma Bell at June 24, 2011 08:55 AM (jOBt3)

75 Posted by: Bloomberg

This man is a Jew!

Posted by: Delta at June 24, 2011 08:56 AM (GTbGH)

76 When do we get real trolls so we don't have to self troll the blog?

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at June 24, 2011 08:56 AM (0q2P7)

77 nice pawn Truman North

When did we start spelling pwn with an "a"

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at June 24, 2011 08:57 AM (0q2P7)

78

Let's review the facts about this.

Ace of Spades HQ - particularly the original AOS corespondant on the scene in his boxers - Drew: RINO.

Denying that Delta Airlines has instituted antisemtic policies: structurally similar expression to denying that Nazi Germany instituted antisemtic policies.

Anthony Wiener's wiener: Not in this story.

Posted by: Entropy at June 24, 2011 08:58 AM (IsLT6)

79

When did we start spelling pwn with an "a"

so bite me

 

Posted by: Ma Bell at June 24, 2011 08:58 AM (jOBt3)

80 But, is it a Trap Trap?

I immediately called it crap.

Posted by: lan sing at June 24, 2011 08:59 AM (YHrQZ)

81 I don't think there are as many trolls as there used to be. If we would just play with them like a fat house cat plays with a mouse instead of removing their heads like a Saudi on an Indonesian house keeper maybe they would stay and play.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at June 24, 2011 09:00 AM (NtTkA)

82

Delta Airlines is exercising a choice to make its employees complicit in the enforcement of the Saudi governmentÂ’s policies of hatred and discrimination against anyone who visits Israel.

To wit; John McCain, Bill Kristol, Lindsay Graham and Jennifer Rubin have called for the immediate invasion of Moldova.

Posted by: Entropy at June 24, 2011 09:01 AM (IsLT6)

83

Now, I don't "know" Saudi expressly forbids Israeli passport holders legal entry (it wouldn't surprise me, and yeah, it's also shitty, but whatever). If it's true, then every airline that flies to Jeddah would enforce that at the gate.

Dave in Texas at June 24, 2011 12:29 PM (WvXvd)

No.  This would be discrimination based off of national origin, and would subject the carrrier to being sued in court.

The only legal way that a carrier that was boarding in U.S. territory could legally keep "the Jews" off the plane (or Israelis) would be to check to see if they had the necessary visa, which is granted by the Saudis, not the airline.

So if the Saudis refused to grant a visa to an Israeli passport holder, then the guy shows up, shows his ticket, but has no visa, he doesn't get on the plane.  The airline checked his ticket, it was OK, but he had no visa, so he couldn't get on.  His passport wouldn't be an issue.

The airline would then kept him off based off his lack of a visa, not because he was a Jew/Israeli.

The Saudi's did the discriminating, not the airline.

Posted by: ed at June 24, 2011 09:02 AM (Y2WVW)

84 When do we get real trolls so we don't have to self troll the blog?

Dude, this is Ace's place.  Even the proprietor and cob-loggers troll this joint.

Posted by: AoSHQ's *second* worst commenter, DarkLord© at June 24, 2011 09:02 AM (GBXon)

85 When World Nut Daily does the same kind of business-baiting the libs do, it is time for Joe Farah and company to stop and think very hard about what they have come to.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 24, 2011 09:04 AM (ujg0T)

86 As we get closer to the election, we must stay a little more focused.  Dang, I felt like Liberty Valence yesterday.

Posted by: Cherry π the unbanned at June 24, 2011 09:04 AM (OhYCU)

87 Stranahan's yacking

Listen here

Posted by: kuato at June 24, 2011 09:04 AM (GTbGH)

88 83, I think they are plotting an invasion of Monrovia. I don't think they have figured out the princess diaries was just a movie.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at June 24, 2011 09:05 AM (NtTkA)

89 I don't think anyone here could have such convoluted thoughts.

Posted by: lan sing at June 24, 2011 09:05 AM (YHrQZ)

90

But, is it a Trap Trap?

Posted by: Whoopi

Well it wasn't rape. I never got maced.

Posted by: ADM. Akbar at June 24, 2011 09:05 AM (fPOY0)

91 Nikki is someone named Jenny from Massachusetts? Well, that's clear as mud.

Posted by: Tami at June 24, 2011 09:07 AM (X6akg)

92

I would also like to remind everyone, before they brush this story off as a ridiculous misfire or something, that besides banning Jews from being allowed to fly on planes numerous scientific studies have shown that Delta Airlines causes cancer.

Posted by: Entropy at June 24, 2011 09:07 AM (IsLT6)

93 Delta doing this is one thing, but what about the restrictions our own government has placed upon our armed forces entering allah-land?  How many Bibles shipped to our soldiers in Asslanastan have been burned? 

Posted by: Havedash at June 24, 2011 09:07 AM (sFD5n)

94 Nikki is someone named Jenny from Massachusetts? Well, that's clear as mud.

"Jenny"  Yeah, aint much of a reveal.

Posted by: kuato at June 24, 2011 09:08 AM (GTbGH)

95

The Saudi's did the discriminating, not the airline.

Posted by: ed at June 24, 2011 01:02 PM (Y2WVW)

Yes.... Ve just drove them to the chambers... Ve had nutzing to do with it...

Posted by: German Railroad Engineer, 1945 at June 24, 2011 09:08 AM (NtXW4)

96 Stranahan just identified 'Nikki' on his radio show.  Someone named Jenny that he thinks is from Massachusetts.

http://tinyurl.com/6hbldp4


Posted by: Tami at June 24, 2011 09:09 AM (X6akg)

97 Delta airlines also drops puppies in mid-air.

Posted by: Cherry π the unbanned at June 24, 2011 09:09 AM (OhYCU)

98 Ooops....that was for the new thread.  Sorry.

Posted by: Tami at June 24, 2011 09:10 AM (X6akg)

99 I stand by my question of yesterday;

Would Delta still stand by the agreement if the airline in the partnership forbade Muslims from flying on any flight?

If South Africa was still under apartheid, would Delta deal with them at all?

Posted by: kbdabear at June 24, 2011 09:12 AM (so1xa)

100 93

I would also like to remind everyone, before they brush this story off as a ridiculous misfire or something, that besides banning Jews from being allowed to fly on planes numerous scientific studies have shown that Delta Airlines causes cancer.

Posted by: Entropy at June 24, 2011 01:07 PM (IsLT6)

Hmmm... well... lets see... Everyone who gets Cancer did breathe... and Delta Airplanes do put stuff into the Air... so... logicly Delta Airlines MUST cause Cancer!

Quick... lets file a lawsuit... I need the cash to pay for MY defense...

Posted by: John Edwards at June 24, 2011 09:13 AM (NtXW4)

101 Delta kicks puppies and shakes babies!

Posted by: Jimi at June 24, 2011 09:13 AM (JMsOK)

102 ...no Delta does not discriminate, it's not Delta's policy, Delta is just enforcing discriminatory policies established by our new partner, that allows us to add 35 new destinations to the alliance network...that's totally different

Posted by: runner at June 24, 2011 09:15 AM (WR5xI)

103 Yeah... Delta is innocent... just like OJ....

Posted by: LA Rioter at June 24, 2011 09:15 AM (NtXW4)

104

The Saudi's did the discriminating, not the airline.

Posted by: ed at June 24, 2011 01:02 PM

Yeh, and IG Farben only manufactured and shipped furnaces to Poland, they didn't load the corpses in the ovens

Posted by: kbdabear at June 24, 2011 09:15 AM (so1xa)

105 "Jenny"  Yeah, aint much of a reveal.
Posted by: kuato at June 24, 2011 01:08 PM

I've got her number; 867-5309

Posted by: Tommy Tutone at June 24, 2011 09:17 AM (so1xa)

106 Maybe they could re brand their airlines to....

ProgressiveAir?

Posted by: George Washington at June 24, 2011 09:19 AM (y0VOX)

107 Thirty years ago, my employer wanted to send me to Saudi Arabia to do installation work on an information system at Jeddah Airport. Imagine my shock when the Saudi visa application shows up on my inbox with the religion field pre-filled by my employer as "Protestant." I called the B'nai B'rith Anti-Defamation League for advice. They told me that the Kingdom did allow entry of American Jews who had specific technical expertise. I waited until that year's bonus checks were issued and mine was deposited, and then I told my boss that there was a problem with the visa form: it should list my religion as Jewish. He hemmed and hawed and pointed out that "Protestant" is non-denominational, but finally agreed to let me change it. Needless to say, he was too chicken-shit to submit it to the Consulate.

Posted by: stuiec at June 24, 2011 09:23 AM (I/OIy)

108

Delta is a 4th string airline, anyway.

Posted by: Henry Harold Humphries - you can call me 'H' at June 24, 2011 09:29 AM (yuQh/)

109 It's amazing how the Delta Spokeshole's original blog post from yesterday disappeared and now this is in its place.

http://tinyurl.com/4zlql6

They are trying to do damage control...BIG TIME.

Posted by: mpfs at June 24, 2011 09:30 AM (iYbLN)

110

Yes.... Ve just drove them to the chambers... Ve had nutzing to do with it...

Actually Delta won't drive them to the chambers... that's seems to be the problem here.

As the engine was revving up to tow the box cars off to Poland, the railroad engineer has been accused of throwing the Jews off in Leipzig, on account of racist policies banning Jews from rail travel.

Just you know, a PSA from the Public Comittee for A Minimum of "Plausible" Accuracy Displayed in Analogies.... Our starting point of ostensible outrage here is that Delta took no Jews to Iran, for which there is at the moment no actual evidence.

Yeh, and IG Farben only manufactured and shipped furnaces to Poland, they didn't load the corpses in the ovens

Srsly?

Posted by: Entropy at June 24, 2011 09:32 AM (IsLT6)

111

German Railroad Engineer, 1945 at June 24, 2011 01:08 PM (NtXW4)

kbdabear at June 24, 2011 01:15 PM (so1xa)

Just so you know, I'm talking about a legal hypothetical, in response to Dave in Texas's legal hypothetical.

I understand the point you are making, but that's not where I'm trying to go.

 

Posted by: ed at June 24, 2011 09:32 AM (Y2WVW)

112 Code sharing my ass.  I was a travel agent in ye olden days.  I call bullshit on Delta.

Dumb f*cking PR move on Delta's part.  It sounds as if the Obambi administration works in their PR department.  Only they could be this stupid and tone deaf.

Posted by: mpfs at June 24, 2011 09:33 AM (iYbLN)

113 113 Code sharing my ass.  I was a travel agent in ye olden days.  I call bullshit on Delta.

Dumb f*cking PR move on Delta's part.  It sounds as if the Obambi administration works in their PR department.  Only they could be this stupid and tone deaf.

The airline industry in general tends to be run by f*cking morons these days.  Delta just seems to be ahead of the curve in sacrificing their morals and ethics in order to make money.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at June 24, 2011 09:36 AM (JqpkY)

114 Yeah... Delta is innocent... just like OJ....

Exactly and they are helping OJ find the real killer.

It probably was an evil Joo carrying a copy of the Old Testament and trying to board a Delta flight to the Kingdom.

Posted by: mpfs at June 24, 2011 09:37 AM (iYbLN)

115 Yeah, WND is pretty weak. I don't really mind that they are out there saying Obama sucks, but they don't exactly have high standards. They are like having a crazy guy on your side in a bar fight -- you appreciate the support, but he might be more trouble than he's worth, and he might pick a fight with you next, or the bartender, or the waitress, or some random dude.

Posted by: Clubber Lang at June 24, 2011 09:42 AM (QcFbt)

116

It probably was an evil Joo carrying a copy of the Old Testament and trying to board a Delta flight to the Kingdom.

Has there been a single Jew that was refused a flight from Delta on account of being a Jew?

Posted by: Entropy at June 24, 2011 09:44 AM (IsLT6)

117 Back in the first Gulf War under GHWB, the Saudis would not permit Christian services for our troops stationed in SA.  We should have left the muz scumbags to their own devices immediately and departed leaving those valiant Saudi and Kuwaiti warriors to solve the Saddam Hussein problem.
We might have less of a Barack Hussein problem now if we had done that then!

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 24, 2011 09:49 AM (yrGif)

118 I hate all airlines equally thanks to the Obama Administration's TSA.

Posted by: Fritz at June 24, 2011 09:50 AM (p2IBw)

119 117

Missing the point.

Posted by: mpfs at June 24, 2011 09:52 AM (iYbLN)

120 Now this is worth following up on as this is important discrimination against a true religion.
http://tinyurl.com/muslimdiscrimination

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 24, 2011 09:56 AM (yrGif)

121

Missing the point.

How is it missing the point?

Y'know... narrative 'point' aside, "Did this actually ever happen" is a legitimate question. Otherwise I posit we should be arguing about whether Global Warming disproportionately impacts minorities.

Delta says they do not even fly to Saudi Arabia.

Somehow, on the strength of a WND article, this is conflated with the Nazi holocaust by multiple commentors? Srsly?

BTW - that's fairly falsifiable. Is there even such a thing as a Delta flight to SA in the first place, to exclude Jews from? Or are we, and WND, just feeling 'truthy'?

And if that is the case and there is no flight to SA - can we accurately say that Delta is also denying Christians and homosexuals boarding to SA?

Posted by: Entropy at June 24, 2011 10:04 AM (IsLT6)

122 The bottom line:  drill here, drill now, build more nuke plants, and then no one will care about Saudi Arabia.

Ding. You win the giant fuckin' Panda, AND the 50 state keychain set (or was that 57?).

Posted by: braindead MBM, gittin skeered. at June 24, 2011 10:05 AM (XyjRQ)

123 Waaaaaaugh. Feckin' sock, die.

Posted by: Chariots of Toast at June 24, 2011 10:06 AM (XyjRQ)

124 You do realize that the O.J. story was also a hoax, right?

Re: WorldNutDaily - I actually visited that site years ago for the comedic value of the Y2K hysteria. (They were actually trying to sell vastly overpriced "survival kits", but that didn't make the madness any less funny.)

As for the losers who won't give it up, what do you have to say about this notorious anti-Semitic doctor?

Posted by: Chuckit at June 24, 2011 10:18 AM (3bofY)

125 I seem to remember that King Faisal Hook-nose needed heart surgery but refused to let the filthy Yid cardiologist into the country. So he flew out to have the filthy Yid cardiologist cut him in the USA. By the way, were any of our military of Hebraic descent allowed in during Desert Storm?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 24, 2011 10:21 AM (5vHqy)

126 122: "Delta says they do not even fly to Saudi Arabia." They don't. They don't code-share with an airilne that flies into Saudia Arabia. They have no plans to. 'Stupid' and 'ignorant' have been fighting it out in the blogosphere over this story all day long. So far, they're both winning.

Posted by: RNB at June 24, 2011 10:36 AM (lSJnL)

127 Why do you always have to change concourses when you fly Delta?

Posted by: toby928™ at June 24, 2011 11:10 AM (GTbGH)

128 I still hate Delta anyway

Posted by: beedubya at June 24, 2011 11:29 AM (AnTyA)

129 Look at the end of the day Islam is the enemy of the west and individual liberty. Doing business (and many American companies do and our own government for that matter as well) with Muslim majority countries is no different than doing business with the Soviets during the cold war and will come back to haunt us down the road in the loss of American lives. That is only fact that really matters....all the rest is shuffling deck chairs on the Titanic...

Posted by: minstrelboy at June 24, 2011 01:55 PM (rwioF)

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