June 06, 2011

Depression 2.0 : Chronic Unemployment Worse Than The Great Depression
— Ace

This is really horrible. The media left is often forced to dismiss the millions of long-time unemployed, as they represent a political problem for Obama, treating them as if they don't matter, no big deal.

That jackass "Ali" basically took that position in telling Jim Geraghty his silly unemployment stats were meaningless.

No dice. This is bad.

About 6.2 million Americans, 45.1 percent of all unemployed workers in this country, have been jobless for more than six months - a higher percentage than during the Great Depression.

The bigger the gap on someone's resume, the more questions employers have.

"(Employers) think: 'Oh, well, there must be something really wrong with them because they haven't gotten a job in 6 months, a year, 2 years.' But that's not necessarily the case," said Marjorie Gardner-Cruse with the Hollywood Worksource Center.

The problem of course is the economy, but some industries, especially certain manufacturing jobs, are not ever expected to come back. Experts say unemployed workers need to be prepared to change careers.

He was told his "Stimulus" was non-stimulative. He didn't care. He used it as an opportunity to just throw money to favored Representatives' districts and generally bloat government spending. Not even caring he was tossing away a trillion dollars on bike paths and bee mating rituals.

Miserable Lines: This depression may be deeper than a normal recession, but, on the other hand, it's also far longer.


Posted by: Ace at 05:00 AM | Comments (118)
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1

The media left is often forced to dismiss the millions of long-time unemployed, as they represent a political problem for Obama, treating them as if they don't matter, no big deal.

They don't matter.  They never have.  It's not about the little guy.

It's about power. 

It's why we hate them.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 06, 2011 05:02 AM (sbV1u)

2

"What Recovery?"  Care of the Comcast home page

This could be a sign of things to come.

Posted by: Truman North at June 06, 2011 05:02 AM (K2wpv)

3

From the comments on the previous link:

Many have just given up? How is that possible? You STILL have to eat!

Sounds like a bunch of Republicans to me! Trying to beat Obama anyway they can.

Yep.  We're starving our children to score a partisan victory.

Really? Really?

Posted by: Truman North at June 06, 2011 05:04 AM (K2wpv)

4 More to the point:  The ARRA was a money-laundering scheme designed to keep state workers and union workers in jobs, so that their union dues and political contricutions would continue to fund Democrat campaigns.  That's all it ever was.

Posted by: Truman North at June 06, 2011 05:06 AM (K2wpv)

5

Ace,

You're going to have to come better armed than that.

Posted by: Ali Velshi at June 06, 2011 05:07 AM (wuv1c)

6

This could be a sign of things to come.

 

Yeah, i couldn't believe i saw that this morning too.

 

usually comcast and yahoo only have left wing headlines.

I guess the MBM can only wish away reality for so long before bits of truth make it through.

Posted by: Ben at June 06, 2011 05:08 AM (wuv1c)

7 From Powerline via Insty:  The real unemployment story.  Killer graph embedded.

Posted by: Truman North at June 06, 2011 05:09 AM (K2wpv)

8 They forgot to include "fun employment", that would bring the numbers way down.

Posted by: Barry at June 06, 2011 05:10 AM (JpFM9)

9

usually comcast and yahoo only have left wing headlines.

Not just that they put this story above Justin Bieber's tattoos, but the borderline-snarky tone of it.  Like the writer is stifling a guffaw at what the administration is saying.

There's more to it than the story; Laughter is a strategy to combat arrogance.

Posted by: Truman North at June 06, 2011 05:11 AM (K2wpv)

10

You know what would be a good idea right now?

Amnesty.

We could use 10-11 million new serfs workers.

Posted by: Ben at June 06, 2011 05:11 AM (wuv1c)

11 ...so this is "horrible" has replaced "DOOM"?

Posted by: phoenixgirl at June 06, 2011 05:13 AM (eOXTH)

12

10-11?  lol.  That's before breakfast.

I bet the real number is 30.  But once you count each of them as an anchor, which they will immediately become, you're talking about importing the entirety of central America for starters.

Posted by: Truman North at June 06, 2011 05:14 AM (K2wpv)

13 (must have missed something - "Ali" a new moniker for D'ohbama or what?)

Posted by: Chuckit at June 06, 2011 05:14 AM (I14H4)

14 Experts say unemployed workers need to be prepared to change careers.

Like McDonalds?  Nothing but Spanish speaking workers there now.

Posted by: Beto at June 06, 2011 05:16 AM (j5CHE)

15

must have missed something - "Ali" a new moniker for D'ohbama or what?)

chuckit, go back in the archive and look for the post that begins with, "The C in CNN Stands for Obama..."

Ali Velshi, CNN's main Economic pundit essentially mocked and dismissed the NRO's Jim Geraghty for pointing out unemployment has been over 8.5% for the entire Obama administration and that the stimulus and healthcare law didn't help.

Posted by: Ben at June 06, 2011 05:17 AM (wuv1c)

16 Well this is why Tingles said saying calling what President Divot was European Racist or something. He basically took Structural un-employment and put it up 5 points.  Similar to the commie governments in Europe. And with a similar Underclass that trades votes for money. Classic Chicago electoral politics.

15 years ago Full employment was 5%. If you were below 5% it was hard as hell to get good help at a price you were willing to pay. my libtard ex f-i-l would even tell me this. Today, he'd tell me this wasn't Zero's fault. It's the new normal blah blah blah

Posted by: Zakn at June 06, 2011 05:17 AM (zyaZ1)

17 Ali is a guy who debated Jim Geraghty on CNN. He's actually a CNN host. Check down the page. If it's not there see the monthly archive.

Posted by: ace at June 06, 2011 05:18 AM (nj1bB)

18 Well, the media did compare Obama to FDR.  Too bad that went over America's head.

Posted by: Anony at June 06, 2011 05:18 AM (7ahtU)

19

half the new jobs added were to McDonald's... which just got exempted from Obamacare.

Hmmm

Posted by: Truman North at June 06, 2011 05:18 AM (K2wpv)

20 I added the link. Sorry, got lazy, told you to look for it instead of just linking what the hell I was talking about.

Posted by: ace at June 06, 2011 05:20 AM (nj1bB)

Posted by: Truman North at June 06, 2011 05:21 AM (K2wpv)

22 ALL USDA food plates are equal, but some are more equal than others.

Posted by: Chuckit at June 06, 2011 05:23 AM (I14H4)

23

Experts say unemployed workers need to be prepared to change careers.

What professions are hiring?  Also changing professions isn't easy for most people. They often are working in the profession they are because they are good at that particular skill.

It's not like every unemployed contruction worker can up and become a doctor or engineer tomorrow.  Or every unemployed Lawyer(as there are many) take a labor intensive job.

Posted by: Ben at June 06, 2011 05:23 AM (wuv1c)

24
This depression may be
deeper than a normal recession, but, on the other hand, it's also far longer.

That's the Weiner Democrat promise: deeper and longer!

What? too soon?

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at June 06, 2011 05:26 AM (BDH94)

25 24 ....thought pattern? thought pattern? you are at the wrong blog..........

Posted by: phoenixgirl at June 06, 2011 05:27 AM (eOXTH)

26

Experts say unemployed workers need to be prepared to change careers.


That miserable excuse in the WH thinks nothing of the seasoned worker forced to start at the bottom again, if they can even find a gig, and how that affects an economy.  Overall purchasing power heads down continuing to affect other areas of the market.

Posted by: dogfish at June 06, 2011 05:28 AM (N2yhW)

27 Shadow Government has been saying the real unemployment rate is > 20% for a long time now. We have been in "The Great Depression II" since 2009 but the government keeps lying to everyone and the MFM covers it up.

They keep talking about a "double dip". To have that you must first have a recovery. We have been flatlining for years now and they cover that up as well.

DOOOOOOOOOM1

Obligatory kitteh pic (no dick)


Posted by: Vic at June 06, 2011 05:28 AM (M9Ie6)

28 25 this weiner story has legs.....among other things.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl at June 06, 2011 05:29 AM (eOXTH)

29 Good thing we winked at all those illegals, eh? I'd like to see how high the unemployment rate is in the f-ing sactuary cities...

Posted by: Reactionary at June 06, 2011 05:31 AM (cWomL)

30 No shit it's bad.

Put me at 7 + months and counting...and I have friends and family members who are in worse shape. We cannot even find underemployment

...so I am not particularly patient with the fuckheads who are bashing the conservatives who are taking on the piece of shit currently desecrating the WH and the rest of the socialist/Marxist scum in Congress

There are RiNOs who aren't much better either. We have some of these "most electable conservatives" in Congress right now...and the are not fucking doing shit. Some are even pushing back against the conservative positions just to fucking get elected again.

Sorry...but this post set me off.

Posted by: beedubya at June 06, 2011 05:32 AM (AnTyA)

31 Had the Republican congress not slashed investment for green jobs and renewable energy in the 2009 stimulus package, we'd be at full employment right now.

Posted by: Debbie Wasserman-Schultz at June 06, 2011 05:33 AM (bN5ZU)

32

That miserable excuse in the WH thinks nothing of the seasoned worker forced to start at the bottom again, if they can even find a gig, and how that affects an economy.  Overall purchasing power heads down continuing to affect other areas of the market.

Posted by: dogfish at June 06, 2011 09:28 AM (N2yhW)


There is not even any place to start over

Posted by: beedubya at June 06, 2011 05:33 AM (AnTyA)

33 Normandy landing June 6th 1944.

Posted by: lions at June 06, 2011 05:34 AM (qV3Q+)

34 Experts say unemployed workers need to be prepared to change careers.

As a 50+ year-old, now ex-Realtor, what the hell am I going to re-train for?!  Oh yeah, I also do not "count" as unemployed since I was an independent contractor, nor do I get unemployment.  I am one of those "invisible" unemployed.

Posted by: jjmurphy at June 06, 2011 05:35 AM (W9zXZ)

Posted by: Truman North at June 06, 2011 05:35 AM (K2wpv)

36 Boys of Pointe du Hoc are in my thoughts today.

Of course Google has no homepage change. Fucking commies

Posted by: Zakn at June 06, 2011 05:36 AM (zyaZ1)

37 Also changing professions isn't easy for most people. They often are working in the profession they are because they are good at that particular skill. So what? Life isn't concerned with "fair." Life is concerned with survival and is brutally unsympathetic to whiners. Ever read "Who Moved My Cheese?" It's a very simplistic morality tale about the need to adapt to change or starve, complete with Democrat mice that sit on their dead asses and complain that they actually have to get out there and find solutions.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at June 06, 2011 05:36 AM (lbo6/)

38 Thought I felt "Accidents Will Happen" coming on there.  "I Hope You're Happy Now" is a better choice.

Odd story behind that song:  He debuted a slightly different version that song on Johnny Carson's show -- Joan Rivers was guest-hosting that night -- a full TWO YEARS before it appeared on record.

Goodbye Cruel World (regarded as a huge disappointment at the time) was the record he was promoting, but he liked "Happy Now" so much that he couldn't wait to play it (and stick it to his soon-to-be-ex-record company Columbia Records by not promoting Goodbye)  Columbia wouldn't shell out for him to make it a non-album single, so by the time B&C came out, "Happy Now" was old and wasn't even released as a single. 

Great great song.  My high-school-aged sis listened to it 1000 times (on a tape recorder she'd set next to the TV-- this was pre-VCR, for us at least) between 1984 and 1986.

Found that performance (been having trouble linking here lately, but I'll try).  Love YouTube!

Posted by: Bender Bending Rodriguez at June 06, 2011 05:40 AM (1H47k)

39

I bet the real number is 30.  But once you count each of them as an anchor, which they will immediately become, you're talking about importing the entirety of central America for starters.

Posted by: Truman North
..........
especially before securing the borders!  Just a whiff of amnesty would be akin to turning off the lights and watching the cockroaches start pouting in!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at June 06, 2011 05:40 AM (f9c2L)

40 And I thought it couldn't get worse than the Hall and Oates videos.

Posted by: Waterhouse at June 06, 2011 05:40 AM (wKH+l)

41 I don't see how things will improve before Jan 2013 -- and then only if JEFe is voted out and the R's get to at least 52 in the senate. The country is not a stable rule of law country right now so only big crony corporations can have ANY confidence of what the future holds. There is a whole list of crap bills and actions that have made this recession worse but I believe the big underlying factor is this "not all laws apply to US" crap from the DEMs and especially Obummer.

Posted by: PaleRider at June 06, 2011 05:44 AM (m+nIW)

42 Try finding job if you're older. I'm at 2 years with a grand total of 2 in-person  interviews and  6 phone interview despite a great employment history/resume. My husband lost his job a month ago.

Posted by: jeannebodine at June 06, 2011 05:44 AM (nvlAW)

43 Sign of the times?  I have been traveling. Last week I was in an airport lounge in Rome and chatting up a guy from my area, mentioned my son just finished MBA school and had a real job and was off the tit.

He didn't believe me. Called me out, with who gave him a job, etc.  I was sort of taken a back.  Why TF would he be so defensive about my comment?

Obviously, there are a lot of college grads sitting at home with no job and still on the tit.


Posted by: Kemp at June 06, 2011 05:45 AM (JpFM9)

44 This is completely off-topic, but ...ahem....Lest we forget : http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=eEIqdcHbc8I#at=57

Posted by: Rondinellamamma at June 06, 2011 05:45 AM (165ZM)

45 How I long for the horrid economy we had under the Republican Robber Barons.

January 4th 2007:  The day Pelosi became Speaker of the Democratically controlled 110th Congress

DJIA end of session:  12,800.18
National unemployment rate for December 2006:  4.5%
2006 Federal Budget Deficit:  $247.7 billion
Average GDP growth for 2006:   3.4%
Median Home Value in December 2006: $244,700   March 2011: $159,600
Average price for Regular Unleaded Gasoline December 2006:  $2.30
Federal Debt as % of GDP  2006: 64.55  2008: 70.00  2009: 90.36  2010: 92.28   2011: 102.63 (estimated)
Nonfarm employment in thousands   Dec 2006: 137,000   April 2011: 131,028

In the 12 years of Republican Congress, average annual deficit:  $104 billion

Posted by: toby928™ at June 06, 2011 05:46 AM (GTbGH)

46 Sorry, I don't know how to post a link...

Posted by: Rondinellamamma at June 06, 2011 05:46 AM (165ZM)

47 I did note the absurd "get trained" advice in the linked article.

If memory serves me, for years now,  Michelle Malkin has exposed the utter uselessness of training programs for the unemployed.  

Posted by: Chuckit at June 06, 2011 05:47 AM (I14H4)

48 I see Dem's were in full-fledged denial this weekend.

They are basically trying to basically create a meme which basically states that Obama saved the earth from certain destruction at the hands of Bush. Well, that was implied. At least they are not saying it outright, ad nauseum.

I am pretty sure if the unemployed vote for whoever our candidate eventually is, that alone would provide a comfortable margin of victory.

It just really startles me how bad the economic data is- and the outlook is not much better. We will basically have slow economic and job growth right through the next election. That assessment is not really substantively challenged by anyone credible.

But what I find even more distressing is Democrat's willingness to deliberately mislead people into thinking the situation is much better than it appears. Really? Tell that to folks working 2 jobs to make ends meet, working at Walmart or Lowes with advanced degrees because they can't find suitable work, depressed folks who have given up (God Bless you- DON'T GIVE UP!), people moving to other states for work, people giving up on college for their kids, people losing their homes and recent college graduates with huge loans and no job.

I am sure they are all comforted that is is Bush's/Republican's fault and Obama is now engaging in gratuitous photo-ops with workers because it serves his reelection campaign.

Posted by: Marcus at June 06, 2011 05:48 AM (CHrmZ)

49 IT field is still hot, the DC area is hot. I lost my job beginning of November and interviewed just about every other day. I had a job offer in hand before Christmas. I have been trying to hire a couple of IT positions but it is hard to find candidates (experienced LINUX folks). But I think outside of this area (and Silicon Valley), outside of this field, its a cold, cold world. Oddly, when Republicans are in office and unemployment is 5% its the worst since the Great Depression. Obama has miraculously saved us from Depression talk with 10% unemployment. Pretty impressive!

Posted by: blaster at June 06, 2011 05:51 AM (l5dj7)

50 It's not unemployment, it's funemployment! Remember, we're supposed to believe this is a 2 year government paid vacation!! Go find yourselves kids, do your art, find a hobby!

Posted by: Chellita at June 06, 2011 05:55 AM (278lO)

51 Democrats staying stuck on perverse stupidity announced that the unprecedented "Mr. Present" aka "I-WON" Obama '12 blame game campaign card is (...drumroll...) the wannabe NON-incumbent.



Posted by: maverick muse at June 06, 2011 05:55 AM (H+LJc)

52

Boys of Pointe du Hoc are in my thoughts today.

Of course Google has no homepage change. Fucking commies

Ace of Spades didn't forget!. It's in the side bar, along with Eisenhower's speech to the service men departing for the invasion in europe.

 

I also noted in the side bar(if you scroll down) that yesterday was the 44th anniversary of the beginning of the Six Day War.  I suggest morons read about the details of the war so you have a better understand of just what Obama is asking of Israel when he says they need to go back to their pre-1967 borders.

Posted by: Ben at June 06, 2011 05:56 AM (wuv1c)

53

Michelle Malkin has exposed the utter uselessness of training programs for the unemployed.  

Oh, she's spot on.  I used to work at Labor.  Here's an interesting stat: in 2006 Labor spent about $4B on job training programs.  You know how many people got job that they didn't otherwise have because of those programs? 

189,000

At that rate, we could have written everyone a $21,000 check to go take care of themselves and then fired all the bureaucrats that administered the program.  Win-win.  Don't you think you can spend $21K better then the Feds can?  I know I can.

Part of the reason the Bush Administration wanted to block grant money to states for job training programs was precisely because of this.  It at least had the chance to improve job gain statistics while limiting growth in the programs as States became more efficient at it.

Did we?  Hell no, the Democrats went batshit. 

Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 06, 2011 05:56 AM (sbV1u)

54 50: I do recall hearing about Bush attending $$$ plate fund raising dinners --the MarxSpewMedia reveled in telling those stories and I didn't even listen to Rush during Clinton years let alone had found conservative blogs but it feels like Barry is campaigning full time already and no other sitting president has carried on like this. How true is this vs. I was never paying any attention before?

Posted by: PaleRider at June 06, 2011 05:56 AM (m+nIW)

55 Obama. Nothing like ducking his own record, in perpetual denial of his own identity.

Posted by: maverick muse at June 06, 2011 05:56 AM (H+LJc)

56

Sorry, I don't know how to post a link...

Step by step instructions.

1. copy the link you want to post

2. go to  tinyurl(dot)com

3. paste the link at tinyurl(dot) com and click the "Make Tiny Url button"

4. After clicking that button, highlight and copy the tiny url link.

5.Come to the HQ and at the top of the comment box click the icon that looks like a chain link or inifinity symbol. It's the 9th symbol from the left.

6. a box will pop up, paste the tiny url link in the top right line, then click okay.

And that's it

Posted by: Ben at June 06, 2011 05:59 AM (wuv1c)

57 Barack Hussien Obamaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa !! Four more years.......Four more years........Four more years......Four more years....Fuck No You Purple Lipped Idiot Commie Boy !!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Lily Templeton-Steinan at June 06, 2011 05:59 AM (48wze)

58 To all the voters who chose Obama because he seemed cool and it let them show how open-minded they were, I hope you're all enjoying your funemployment.  Thanks for inflicting him on the rest of us, idiots.

Posted by: Cicero at June 06, 2011 06:00 AM (Txl/u)

59 A deep recession ends when the government starts seriously cutting its spending.

Posted by: NAME REDACTED at June 06, 2011 06:00 AM (TC/9F)

60

Try finding job if you're older. I'm at 2 years with a grand total of 2 in-person  interviews and  6 phone interview despite a great employment history/resume. My husband lost his job a month ago.

Yeah, that's always been a problem, even when you're not in a recession.

Posted by: Ben at June 06, 2011 06:01 AM (wuv1c)

61

Oh, she's spot on.  I used to work at Labor.  Here's an interesting stat: in 2006 Labor spent about $4B on job training programs.  You know how many people got job that they didn't otherwise have because of those programs? 

And the government is going after "for profit" training schools now.

Give me an ITT Tech graduate over a government trained person any day.

 

At those "for profit" vocational schools, they at least turn out people who have useful skills.

Posted by: Ben at June 06, 2011 06:02 AM (wuv1c)

62
Ace of Spades didn't forget!. It's in the side bar, along with Eisenhower's speech to the service men departing for the invasion in europe.

Bring us Patton's speech!

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at June 06, 2011 06:03 AM (BDH94)

63 Posted by: Marcus
.........
Basically, you are basically correct.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at June 06, 2011 06:07 AM (f9c2L)

64 Thanks, Ben..but I don't have any icons over the comments box...maybe I'll just wait for my kid to come home from school and explain it to me... sigh....

Posted by: Rondinellamamma at June 06, 2011 06:07 AM (165ZM)

65 IRA Darth Aggie, Done!

Posted by: Ben at June 06, 2011 06:07 AM (wuv1c)

66

 Thanks, Ben..but I don't have any icons over the comments box...maybe I'll just wait for my kid to come home from school and explain it to me...

sigh....

 

really? right below where it say "comments" you don't have a row of icons?

B  u      etc.?

Posted by: Ben at June 06, 2011 06:09 AM (wuv1c)

67

Thanks, Ben..but I don't have any icons over the comments box

You must be using Firefox.  Switch to IE in compatibility mode and it will work fine.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 06, 2011 06:09 AM (sbV1u)

68 C'mon folks don't be testy. People are happy to lose their jobs: credit ratings, future security ,ways of feeding their offspring, moving out of their homes to enjoy the glories of  apt cardboard box  living, all this fun just to stick it to the Dems!

Cause It's all about making the Dems look shitty at managing gvt!

in truth with no sarcasm, This will be no recoverable for a large part of our 50 somethings. Get a new career at 55?
and what career is hiring  by the millions?

Posted by: willow channeling Anthony's Weiner at June 06, 2011 06:09 AM (h+qn8)

69 Miserable Lines: This depression may be deeper than a normal recession, but, on the other hand, it's also far longer.

Change! I be bringing it!

Posted by: Barack "The Lightworker" Obama at June 06, 2011 06:10 AM (7BU4a)

70 Can't I just finish my waffle chili dogs and fries?

Posted by: Barack "DAISNAID" Obama at June 06, 2011 06:12 AM (v+QvA)

71 I really , really, do dislike the dems.

Posted by: willow at June 06, 2011 06:12 AM (h+qn8)

72 @68 & @69 Really. No icons. I'm on safari..is that the problem?

Posted by: Rondinellamamma at June 06, 2011 06:12 AM (165ZM)

73

 @68 & @69 Really. No icons. I'm on safari..is that the problem?

dunno. I only use IE and Firefox which has the icon

Posted by: Ben at June 06, 2011 06:27 AM (wuv1c)

74 Yeah blame all dis on Obama hey fools? Dis shit started in Reagans years with this trickle down economics, and him giving money away to coorporations.

Posted by: Spliff Ryder at June 06, 2011 06:28 AM (NjfOK)

75 One entitlement that needs to be looked at is the minimum wage. If you don't think that's an entitlement then bring up lowering the wage and the reaction is no different from changing SS or Medicare/Medicaid. Pretty much no one has any political courage to tackle that and now that it's up to $7.25 an hour, plenty of people are duped into thinking that it helped when they raised it a couple of years ago. I think it's one big unmentioned reason for fueling our current depression. You just can't force higher wages if the cash flow isn't there and businesses have to lay people off. And yet some wonder why teenage unemployment is so high.

You don't have to be a small business person like myself to do the math. By forcing a raise the cost of employing for the smallest businesses that means we have to make a certain amount more of money per month to keep someone hired. I haven't been able to afford hiring anyone at my business yet because the higher cash flow isn't there yet. I make enough for the business to stay afloat but that's it. And I have numerous teenagers asking for a job but I always have to tell them no.

The federal minimum wage should be zero. Let the states set it and then we can see which state economies flourish. Too bad that idea is hands-off because of demagoguery.

Posted by: ArcadeHero at June 06, 2011 06:31 AM (tUq+p)

76 @74 , Yup . On Safari you need to know some HTML .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at June 06, 2011 06:32 AM (npr0X)

77 FF has it. Safari doesnt.

Posted by: PeePeePundit at June 06, 2011 06:33 AM (+sBB4)

78 I'm using Firefox, and the "row" of icons is right above as I type

I usedthe is.gd plugin - I'm sure other shorteners have them

Right click - Create is.gd URL for this page .... bada bing ... bada bang ..

Posted by: Chuckit at June 06, 2011 06:35 AM (I14H4)

79 And, here in batshit crazy NJ, I'm already seeing Obama 2012 bumper stickers. Sooner or later I'm going to lose my freaking mind. Oh, wait.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at June 06, 2011 06:37 AM (hheOH)

80 It's the maliciously spiteful antipathy of Obama's administration (including the Marxist MSM) that is their own undoing.

Only so many dolts consent to being brow beaten and then starved into submission as dhimmi slaves. Make note how Obama's bff China treats "slaves" in Darfur, through genocide. Also make note how every Ivy Beleaguered  potus candidate shares in common the Ponzi elitism, regardless of propagandized platform. Pelosi rendered it privately as the shared bipartisan "common values" that Mitt et al. acceptable and properly schooled Goppers embrace. Romney never built anything in his life, though he managed investments. The antithesis of his Mexican-born American father who actually productively managed prosperous American manufacturing, Mitt's '08 promise to "provide good jobs for Americans" is to deny America the opportunity to even attempt to rebuild our manufacturing base. Even if ignoring Mitt's allegiance with Hatch's green-cards for legal immigrant highly skilled workers displacing American employees from highly desirable jobs, Mitt's promise to "give Americans good jobs" equates to Obama's success with "Stimulus" -- hogwash.

I'll vote for the POTUS candidate prepared to preserve the American Constitution, that protects sovereign states within our sovereign nation, by surgically amputating from federal existence the non-constitutional and parasitically mutant federal authoritarian bureaucracies, and by severing relations with the Federal Reserve, to secure from within our tax based national budget an economically sound and constitutionally limited government.





Posted by: maverick muse at June 06, 2011 06:39 AM (H+LJc)

81 65

Basically, I was basically spitting when typing and trying to do three things at once.

Basically, I should stop basically doing that because you can't edit your basic comments around here.

Basically.

Posted by: Marcus at June 06, 2011 06:41 AM (CHrmZ)

82 If you don't have the icons in the comment box try doing your editing in MS Word and then pasting it in the comment field. This is actually the easiest way to do links anyway.

Posted by: Vic at June 06, 2011 06:44 AM (M9Ie6)

83

He didn't care. He used it as an opportunity to just throw money to favored Representatives' districts and generally bloat government spending. Not even caring he was tossing away a trillion dollars on bike paths and bee mating rituals.

And now that this money has been pissed away, the newest trend in unemployment is more and more layed off local government employees.  Some of whom have no "real" job skills.

Yeah, yeah, I know.  I'm not supposed to be mean to government employees.  Whatever.  The phrase "it's close enough for government work" didn't just spring forth from nothing. 

Posted by: rockhead at June 06, 2011 06:51 AM (ZMHGo)

84 Weak U.S. Dollar Adds 56.5¢ to Every Gallon of Gasoline

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at June 06, 2011 06:53 AM (e8kgV)

85

The justifiable lack of hope is also affecting underwater homeowners' desires to walk away from their homes...four years into the housing collapse, as of last month 37% of homes were sold under duress (9% shorts, 28% foreclosures).  This is extraordinarily troubling as growing numbers who may have the wherewithal to pay their mortgage are demonstrating through their behavior that they have no faith in the future.  If your future earnings potential are $50,000 a year (with annual raises), then you can absorb a $25,000 loss on a house--it's painful but doable. But if you're future earning potential is zero, then it makes economic sense to dump the asset, even if it means loss of credit/problems finding work.  People like me who've played by the rules are still having trouble finding work. 

In advance of my own anticipated job loss, I'm looking at strategic default .  Three years ago, I would have said those homeowners who blew off their mortgages should be thrown in debtors' prison.  Now that the behavior is normalized, I see no reason to peel off my nest egg to invest in a depreciating assets so that the local HOA can come nosing around my gutters. 

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at June 06, 2011 07:00 AM (DPM1U)

86 Also, reading Eisenhower's statement if Normandy had failed...I wonder how Obama would construct his speech if the stimulus had failed.  Perhaps all of those "uhs, umms, you knows" can be decoded. 

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at June 06, 2011 07:05 AM (DPM1U)

87 Nobody has destroyed more black middle class families as Barack Obama. Seriously. It's devastation. And they will still give him 90% of their vote.

If McCain were President, Al Sharpton would be leading daily riots, but since this destruction is being led by a black president ... nobody says shit.

Posted by: Clubber Lang at June 06, 2011 07:05 AM (QcFbt)

88 ...so this is "horrible" has replaced "DOOM"?

Posted by: phoenixgirl at June 06, 2011 09:13 AM (eOXTH)

Since Monty isn't here, I guess so.  Welcome to the Loyal Order of the Terminally Boned.

Posted by: steveegg at June 06, 2011 07:09 AM (o44nj)

89

At those "for profit" vocational schools, they at least turn out people who have useful skills. -- Posted by: Ben at June 06, 2011 10:02 AM

Apprenticeships certainly have an appeal given job placement. Too bad that the federal government made internships illegal.

Students should always research sums and results before signing into a program/institution.

Most vocational schools charge far more in tuition (no thanks to government taxed funds padding institutional income) than the graduate will be able to repay within 10 years even when employed (not considering economic unemployment). And though "for profit" schools may have one employer that takes one graduate, they'll advertise "look who hires our graduates" to rake in high tuition costs from gullible students who squandered educational tax funds (student grants/loans) for naught since most never complete programs of study/training.

As ineffective as many Community Colleges with tech programs may be, they are no worse in training students than some high cost private vocational tech schools, and financially more affordable, and upon completion of training, the community college is every bit as viable placing graduates with job referral employer contacts. 

Posted by: maverick muse at June 06, 2011 07:11 AM (H+LJc)

90 Question is whether Obama is doing this on purpose or is he an idiot? I beleive it is the former, but don't know his reasons

Posted by: Zeke Furmanty at June 06, 2011 07:17 AM (48wze)

91

Posted by: maverick muse at June 06, 2011 11:11 AM (H+LJc)

The problem with the Community College program is the amount of time it takes...

I taught Network Engineering (MCSE) as a Microsoft Cert Trainer for a few years... and using the same Material, we taught in 8 weeks (full time) what the College took 2 YEARS to cover... thats a lot of lost wages if you are not already employed and need that skill set to get into a new line of work.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 06, 2011 07:17 AM (NtXW4)

92 91 Apprenticeships certainly have an appeal given job placement. Too bad that the federal government made internships illegal.

Jesus- when did they do that? I learned machining working at Island Auto Parts in the sixties- worked for free, they trained me. That's awful.

Posted by: backhoe at June 06, 2011 07:19 AM (0bk6W)

93 I'm probably screwed as I have been off of work for a little over 2 years to be a lazy,worthless guy...aka stay at home dad.  Dont miss where I was working for a minute though.

Posted by: Red Shirt at June 06, 2011 07:35 AM (FIDMq)

94 So far, so good!

Posted by: Cloward 'n' Piven at June 06, 2011 07:51 AM (BP6Z1)

95 I have been beating on this drum for what seems like an eternity. As to be fair, have many others. This is NOT a 'normal' recession. It's the end of a par-tay, and all that is left of the debacle is empty bottles and overflowing ashtrays. And a MASSIVE debt hangover. This story and all the others like it are why i get so tired of that stupid Republican mantra of tax cuts. Tax cuts are not going to do doodly about the structural problems that the US and the West in general, now face. If the Republicans and 'conservatives' want to be taken seriously and more importantly if they actually want to help things get better, they had best start seeing the forest for the trees, and start working on long-term solutions to the PROBLEM. And taxes don't have anything to do with it. Not at this point. Obama should be done like dinner at this point but he's not and frankly it's because the alternative is not offering anything at all of value. Just same-o, same-o, which has failed. 'This is bad.' --- You think ?

Posted by: Dougf at June 06, 2011 07:53 AM (U3TsH)

96 I am glad that ace is using my great depression 2.0 phrase. It's funny how we've only had great depressions with FDR and an acolyte of FDR. Must be Bush's fault. right?

Posted by: joeindc44 at June 06, 2011 07:58 AM (QxSug)

97 "If McCain were President,..."

Ugh, the last man standing '08 being RINO McCain with no fire in the belly and an old coot to boot.

Consider the source.

Rather than apply the "too old and doesn't care" appropriately onto "winnable" RINO McCain, the "right-of-center" blog sites played lock-step with MSM-wannabe Politico Carl Cameron, fabricator of whole cloth, taking down Thompson's First Principles Platform. This, despite Fred Thompson being the only candidate arguing with fire in the belly to refute "hands down" the illogical MSM dictation of debate propaganda and to refute Mitt's penchant for universal mandated Statism.

It all goes to show how those who are committed to perpetuating destructive corruption, even if only to "innocently" promote their own sense of importance within the "smart" pack of deceivers, will not permit a constitutional platform on their party ticket.

Up against utter destruction, Br'er Rabbit pled, "Please Br'er Ass, please Br'er Elephant, anything but that briar patch!" 

Liberty.
 

Posted by: maverick muse at June 06, 2011 07:59 AM (H+LJc)

98 Obviously, there are a lot of college grads sitting at home with no job and still on the tit.
Posted by: Kemp at June 06, 2011 09:45 AM (JpFM9)

.
..and there are a shitload of us who graduated years ago who have no "tit"...not even fucking unemployment

Posted by: beedubya at June 06, 2011 08:04 AM (AnTyA)

99 So what? Life isn't concerned with "fair." Life is concerned with survival and is brutally unsympathetic to whiners.

Ever read "Who Moved My Cheese?"

It's a very simplistic morality tale about the need to adapt to change or starve, complete with Democrat mice that sit on their dead asses and complain that they actually have to get out there and find solutions.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at June 06, 2011 09:36 AM (lbo6/)

Sorry...but this particular bit of fucking stupidity has pushed me over my limit.

There is almost nothing to change or adapt to, you fucking moron...and it's getting worse by the day.

Stick to your "I jerk off a lot" jokes and seriously shut the fuck up about everything else.

Posted by: beedubya at June 06, 2011 08:11 AM (AnTyA)

100

I might add to my saga that I've got the capital to ride out the storm, and the diligence and skills to launch a business, but won't contribute one Goddamn cent to this country's GDP until Obama is removed from office. 

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at June 06, 2011 08:17 AM (DPM1U)

101

I might add to my saga that I've got the capital to ride out the storm, and the diligence and skills to launch a business, but won't contribute one Goddamn cent to this country's GDP until Obama is removed from office. 

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at June 06, 2011 12:17 PM (DPM1U)

What just fucking pisses me off to no fucking end are the fucking assholes who attack those on our side who are taking it to Obama.

We are on that precipice right fucking now...but there are those who are too fucking concerned with what how the elitists in the GOP and those on other side perceive them.

Posted by: beedubya at June 06, 2011 08:25 AM (AnTyA)

102

Beedubya, I'm wishing you the best and I hope your situation gets better.  I know it's not much consolation, but my parents and grandparents went thru rough times and emerged OK.  I wouldn't for one second condemn anyone who's encountered financial turmoil.   

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at June 06, 2011 08:40 AM (DPM1U)

103

Try finding job if you're older. I'm at 2 years with a grand total of 2 in-person  interviews and  6 phone interview despite a great employment history/resume. My husband lost his job a month ago.

It's even worse for men (especially non-minorities).  The largest employers in my field openly BOAST about their "Diversity & Inclusion" programs and targets.

In the internet age with online job boards and online job applications, the hiring process has come to be totally controlled by HR people, which is largely dominated by women.  Also, very few HR people have any functional education or experience--they haven't done accounting, sales, marketing, operations, etc.  Yet they are supposed to be capable of judging a candidate's experience, qualifications, and accomplishments?

With the internet, they receive SO many resumes they resort to any means to cut down the number of resumes they actually look at, and the criteria can be quite arbitrary.  They have resume management software programs that select the resumes for them to view based on the criteria they enter.

An interview with HR is rarely based on your experience and accomplishments (since they have no real work experience and no basis for making a judgement). So they resort to this touchy-feely psycho-garbage called "competency based" interviews, which isn't about how competent you are but about personalities and psychology.

HR needs to be taken out of the hiring process completely. 

Posted by: Bill at June 06, 2011 08:46 AM (sduhV)

104 "(Employers) think: 'Oh, well, there must be something really wrong with them because they haven't gotten a job in 6 months, a year, 2 years.' But that's not necessarily the case," said Marjorie Gardner-Cruse with the Hollywood Worksource Center.

This is what my dad says.  He and his snorkeling pals (retired) used to be the hiring/firing managerial types.  And they've all agreed if you give him a resume with a 18 month - 2 year gap in it?  You're at the bottom of the pile.  Things might get desperate enough to hire you at some point; but they'll have hired all the recently working people before they get down to you.

Stick a fork in you, you're quite probably going to have another 2-3 years before the economy recovers enough that the situation is one where you'll get a job just because the workforce needs you again.

Or listen to Empire of Jeff and adapt to no longer needing food or whatever the hell he thinks he said... yeah, "adapt" and get a new job in a new field with no experience and no training and somehow get employed before anyone else in that field... or spend all your savings on retraining in this job market... see Jeff is a freaking genius.  I'd take a decade to burn through my savings and finally starve; but Jeff's plan would have you starving inside of a couple months.  No point in waiting around for the end right Jeff?

Or did you think that was actually good advice?  Who moved my cheese?  Well when you have no job, no cash, a new field with still no job, no savings, and no way to pay for rent or food; you don't have any goddamned cheese do you?

Or do you think changing fields is easy and free with no costs or impact?  Do you have any idea what the hell you're proposing, and the fact that in this market it has a good chance of not working and having people burn through their savings faster than necessary for a goal that they can't achieve?

Naah, lets simply pretend the world is a place where pretty sounding ideas with no actually thought in them actually work and doing something this stupid doesn't end up with you getting kicked in the teeth.

Posted by: The British Milk Marketing Board at June 06, 2011 08:47 AM (X0NX1)

105 When Obama was asked what he thought about Austrian economics as it applied to our current economy, President Obama said "Well, I don't speak Austrian, so..."

Posted by: sexypig at June 06, 2011 09:05 AM (UmEOs)

106 The Obama admin is completely destroying us. I fervently hope the American people will wake the HELL up in 2012. I don't think we can take much more of this.

Posted by: KG at June 06, 2011 09:16 AM (4L0zr)

107 Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at June 06, 2011 01:19 PM (RgXpA)

Dude...have you been missing for a while or just commenting under a different nick?

Posted by: beedubya at June 06, 2011 09:23 AM (AnTyA)

108 Quit hitting on Empire of Jeff. He's right. It isn't fun to realize your job or company is going down, or that you have to learn a new skill, or take a shitty job, but sometimes that is the fact. And yeah, there may not be jobs either, but for some people re-tooling is possible. That part about the HR and on-line application screener scares me though.

Posted by: sexypig at June 06, 2011 09:30 AM (UmEOs)

109 ...but...but...what if Weiner were giving a speech to 45,000 people and someone threw a pie?

Posted by: beedubya at June 06, 2011 09:30 AM (AnTyA)

110 p.s. if anyone thinks that defeating Obama will help the economy...well, I hope it does help, but the fact is that after financial blow outs, its a long hard slog. Plus if we cut spending, that won't help short-term either.

Posted by: sexypig at June 06, 2011 09:32 AM (UmEOs)

111 112 p.s. if anyone thinks that defeating Obama will help the economy...well, I hope it does help, but the fact is that after financial blow outs, its a long hard slog.

Plus if we cut spending, that won't help short-term either.

Posted by: sexypig at June 06, 2011 01:32 PM (UmEOs)

Getting rid of Obama is a necessary first step. If he doesn't get canned, things will never get better.

Posted by: KG at June 06, 2011 09:42 AM (4L0zr)

112 92 Question is whether Obama is doing this on purpose or is he an idiot? I beleive it is the former, but don't know his reasons

Posted by: Zeke Furmanty at June 06, 2011 11:17 AM (48wze)

I weep.

This is why we're in the fucking mess we are, no one does their homework.

It wasn't a secret, even before the election, unless you depended on regular news for your information.

Obama's a fucking old-school Marxist community organizer who surrounded himself throughout his career with a bunch of socialists and communists who would like nothing more than to destroy the economy, have declared that repeatedly, and thanks to the MFM and laziness, hardly anybody knows that TO THIS DAY.

It's no accident, it's no secret, people are just ignant.

Seriously, we're all going to die.

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113 I just hit the six month point.

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