September 16, 2011
— Ace Screeching video at this link, but here's some text:
“Hi, I’m Michele Bachmann. There are many important issues in this presidential campaign – including the role of government, abuse of executive power and crony capitalism. As a mother of three daughters, I believe that parents are the ones who should decide whether or not their young daughters should receive injections for sexually transmitted diseases. These are decisions that are best left to parents, the children and their doctors and should take into consideration the child’s health and the family’s values.“Whether its Obamacare or Perrycare I oppose any governor or president who mandates a family’s healthcare choices and violates the rights of parents on these issues – especially if the decision-making process occurs behind closed doors, bypassing legislative action, and favors campaign contributors over families. That’s not right. As President, I’ll do what’s right for families.”
Favoring campaign contributors over families?
Meanwhile, Bachman has taken somewhere north of $140,000 from pharmaceutical companies.
Those donors include Abbott Labs, Pfizer, GlaxoSmithKline, AstraZeneca, Novartis, Eli Lilly and Bayer. Yet, not a dollar of all that pharma money, from such a wide range of the world's largest drugmakers, came from Merck. Might Bachmann be going after Merck on behalf of that company's competitors who also happen to be Bachmann donors?But really, if Bachmann is carrying water, it's likely not for her pharmaceutical patrons, but her insurance ones. Over the years, Bachmann has taken in huge donations from the insurance industry, including big names such as Allstate, American Family, Aetna and AFLAC, as well as umbrella organizations like the National Association of Health Underwriters and the National Association of Mutual Insurance Companies. There are also several professional insurance association and agent PACs. In the 2009-10 cycle, "insurance" was the largest single industry donor to the Congresswoman. Of the 435 members of the House of Representatives, Bachmann ranked eighth in total fundraising receipts from insurers.
Now, if Bachmann likes a good follow-the-money insinuation, she might like the hypothetical that she is only going after Perry's Gardasil decision because, as a covered treatment, such an order would cost insurers for every injection (a full vaccination requires three shots, and they cost about $120 each). Perry worked to secure about $40 million from the state to match about that same amount from the feds to cover the uninsured and those on state health assistance.
It should also be noted that while selflessly defending innocent little girls from the needle-rape of sex-predator-doctors wielding jabs of Liquid Whore, she also is now fundraising off of her brave stance.
She's not backing off her previous claim that some woman "cried hysterically" to her and told her that her 10-12 year old daughter (that's the age Gardasil is recommended for) got the shot and became "mentally retarded." She deflects, now, saying she's not a "doctor or scientist," so she cannot evaluate this claim. (She can only fundraise off it, it seems.)
Not to be a dick, but she has previously claimed to be a doctor.
And one more thing: Lest you think she doesn't have the brains to do battle with Obama, she rattles off her degrees. "I'm not only a lawyer, I have a postdoctorate degree in federal tax law from William and Mary," she told Fox News' Chris Wallace in June. "I work in serious scholarship."But there was one résumé item that was missing: a Ph.D. Back in the late 1990s and early 2000s, when Bachmann traveled the state as an education activist, she went by "Dr. Michele Bachmann," even though she had never obtained nor sought the advanced degree that's a prerequisite for the title.
From 1998 through 2003, Bachmann was a leading opponent of a Minnesota curriculum standard called the Profile of Learning.... Along with a local education activist named Michael Chapman, she toured the state and the nation to drum up opposition to state and federal education standards. And according to eyewitness accounts and material put out by the group, she picked up an advanced degree along the way.
....
" Bachmann's 2002 anti-Profile film, Guinea Pig Kids, likewise twice identified the then-state senator as "Dr. Michele Bachmann."
And in 2000, when Bachmann knocked off incumbent GOP state Sen. Gary Laidig at the district nominating convention, the MREC fired off a news release repeatedly invoking their candidate's honorarium. "On the first ballot, Dr. Michele Bachmann was endorsed 62% to Laidig's 38%," it read. "Dr. Bachmann herself, who arrived at her convention with no intention of running, was shocked by her victory."
So I'm confused. Is she a doctor or not? Currently she's not, I guess.
Why No Mention of RomneyCare? So wonders Matt Lewis.
He's hinting at an idea, which I think is daffy myself, that Bachmann is some kind of stalking horse for Romney.
I don't buy that. I think at the moment, though, they have a tactical, circumstantial alliance based on shared interest. Both want to stop Perry, so they can go back to the old way of dividing up votes between them, moderates and more establishment-oriented people for Romney, social cons and Tea Partiers for Bachmann.
I can't imagine her being a stalking horse for Romney. What would Romney give her? I'll tell you one thing, he's not going to give her any kind of cabinet position.
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Posted by: Sub-Tard at September 16, 2011 11:21 AM (0M3AQ)
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at September 16, 2011 03:20 PM (uVlA4)
In that case she isn't damaging the Tea Party and the Republican Brand.
Posted by: Oldcat at September 16, 2011 11:21 AM (z1N6a)
Posted by: John at September 16, 2011 11:22 AM (troMH)
Posted by: joncelli at September 16, 2011 11:23 AM (RD7QR)
It should also be noted that while selflessly defending innocent little girls from the needle-rape of sex-predator-doctors wielding jabs of Liquid Whore
I don't care what your position is on this topic, that's hilarious.
And, dude, a juris doctorate is not a real doctorate. Seriously, it's not.
Posted by: alexthechick at September 16, 2011 11:24 AM (VtjlW)
When is Bachmann going to cosponsor a bill with the new guy from NY-9?
When are the two of them going to go into high gear?
Posted by: FireHorse at September 16, 2011 11:24 AM (F5OMl)
I find it hard to believe a) that Bachmann did not earn a phd and lied about it, and b) anything posted at motherfucker jones.
Posted by: soothsayer at September 16, 2011 11:24 AM (sqkOB)
Posted by: John at September 16, 2011 11:25 AM (troMH)
She's a Juris Doctor, is she not?
(For the record, even Ph.D.s rarely go as "doctor". Journalistic style guides say that I would not be Dr. AmishDude. That's saved for M.D.s and maybe D.O.s.)
Posted by: AmishDude at September 16, 2011 11:25 AM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Jollyroger at September 16, 2011 11:25 AM (NCw5u)
Generally speaking, the state makes the decision about mass vaccinations as it is one of the cornerstones of public health and the state has the general police powers to protect the health, safety, general welfare, and morals of its citizens. Knowing that - which is just basic ConLaw - I am left wondering why Rep. Bachmann thinks that this is a winning strategy in the primary since she also knows that little tidbit.
Anyhow, I am glad this came out now, however, so we can get all of the hysteria done with early.
Posted by: Mikey NTH at September 16, 2011 11:26 AM (hLRSq)
And, dude, a juris doctorate is not a real doctorate. Seriously, it's not.
Posted by: alexthechick at September 16, 2011 03:24 PM (VtjlW)
I would argue it's not a real degree, but some people get offended at that.
Posted by: AmishDude at September 16, 2011 11:26 AM (T0NGe)
Posted by: John at September 16, 2011 11:26 AM (troMH)
In: C-word we're not allowed to say here that looks an awful lot like the word country.... First
Because I'm misogynistic like that.
Posted by: lu at September 16, 2011 11:26 AM (pLTLS)
i could even see her running third party for no good reason and hand us 4 more years of cluster-fuck.
Posted by: Twig at September 16, 2011 11:27 AM (w9N0m)
Posted by: jeannebodine, sum b*tch at September 16, 2011 11:27 AM (nvlAW)
Posted by: Texan Economist at September 16, 2011 11:27 AM (TC/9F)
Posted by: joncelli at September 16, 2011 11:28 AM (RD7QR)
@21
Yes, but why let a little thing like constitutional fidelity or consistency get in the way of a political opening?
Especially when the governor wants to inject little girls with the Whore virus.
Posted by: Jollyroger at September 16, 2011 11:28 AM (NCw5u)
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at September 16, 2011 11:28 AM (o2lIv)
As a presidential candidate? Not so much.
She shoulda stayed where she was; now she's just crashin' and burnin'. The whole thing makes me sad.
Posted by: Kathy from Kansas at September 16, 2011 11:28 AM (2AfqM)
Posted by: joncelli at September 16, 2011 11:29 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: poljunkie at September 16, 2011 11:29 AM (XuiJf)
i could even see her running third party for no good reason and hand us 4 more years of cluster-fuck.
Hey, when the incumbent is unpopular, more candidates are better.
Posted by: John Anderson at September 16, 2011 11:29 AM (F5OMl)
Dr. Ace says accepting donations from pharamceuticals is evil but usingthe force of government to force you to do something is A-okay.
Everyone decides their poison. Bachman isn't forcing anything on anyone. Perry loves to force people to do things they don'ty wish too. He even admitted he was wrong.
But Dr. Ace tells us Bachman is on the crazy train.
Hmmm, sounds like Obama logic to me. No sale Ace.
But then again Ace likes Perry decision to give advantages to illegal aliens and deny the same priviledges to Americans. No wonder so many are having second thoughts about these RINOs.
But Ace also supported Pawlenty and Romney, people who don't believe the average person is better qualified to make the decisions that impact on their lifes than the annointed.
Sorry I don't need busybodies telling me what is best for myself and my family, nor any of Ace's cheapshot LGF scenarios.
Posted by: Molon Labe at September 16, 2011 11:29 AM (S7K8x)
23 It's time for Michelle to make an ad that starts with "I am not a witch."
The real question is: Does she float or sink?
Posted by: Clutch Cargo at September 16, 2011 11:29 AM (p+mzQ)
Posted by: Sub-Tard at September 16, 2011 11:29 AM (0M3AQ)
Posted by: jeannebodine, sum b*tch at September 16, 2011 11:30 AM (nvlAW)
Posted by: joncelli at September 16, 2011 03:28 PM (RD7QR)
Yeah, but usually the degrees they graduate with to go on to law school aren't real degrees either.
Posted by: AmishDude at September 16, 2011 11:30 AM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at September 16, 2011 11:30 AM (+lsX1)
Posted by: Jaynie59 at September 16, 2011 11:30 AM (4zKCA)
She's a Juris Doctor. Dumbass. So she's an expert in the field of Everything.
Posted by: HitAndRun at September 16, 2011 11:31 AM (mdhVr)
Posted by: Mr. Polanski at September 16, 2011 11:31 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Rusty Nail at September 16, 2011 11:31 AM (HwE/1)
Posted by: Bob Saget at September 16, 2011 11:31 AM (F/4zf)
Hey, when the incumbent is unpopular, more candidates are better.
Posted by: John Anderson at September 16, 2011 03:29 PM (F5OMl)
Unless they act as stalking horse for the otherwise unelectable incumbent.
A Ross Perot in reverse in this case.
Posted by: Jollyroger at September 16, 2011 11:31 AM (NCw5u)
Posted by: lu at September 16, 2011 11:31 AM (pLTLS)
Perry is done and the sooner the GOP realizes it the better. Can Mitt win? I dont know but Perry won't.
He will be labeld as a psycho as they did to Sharon Angle and Christine O'Donnell.
I don't know how his handlers would allow Perry to call SS a pnzi scheme if it is true and we have not heard about other possibly crazy/unpopular statements yet.
Posted by: stargate123 at September 16, 2011 11:31 AM (wHDQb)
Posted by: JackStraw at September 16, 2011 11:31 AM (TMB3S)
Posted by: ace at September 16, 2011 11:32 AM (nj1bB)
When she first decided, on her own accord, to found a tea-party caucus in congress she showed then that her own need for adoration was more important than any semblance of unity.
She, too, is a narcissist.
Posted by: As If! at September 16, 2011 11:32 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: Twig
Ace "sits on the outside", as does Rove. And neither have ever dropped in or out of a race.
So what is the criteria? If she stays in, and never drops, that's bad. If someone never drops in, that's bad. If a pundit/blogger never drops in our out, and they say what they like as they like, that's good. And should we argue that no blogger/pundit has ever "caused trouble"?
Posted by: a ham sandwich at September 16, 2011 11:32 AM (326rv)
On this: He's hinting at an idea, which I think is daffy myself, that Bachmann is some kind of stalking horse for Romney.
Backing up his claim (haven't read it, but it is an interesting coincidence): who was it who was credited with taking T-Paw out of the race? Bachmann (largely). Who did that help most? Romney.
Now I ain't sayin' she is and I ain't sayin' she ain't, but it seems like a question worth considerin'.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at September 16, 2011 11:32 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: fuck Hannity at September 16, 2011 11:32 AM (aSc9u)
Hmm, it feels like I've heard this before...and before...and before..and before..and before..and before..and before..and before..and before..and before..and before..and before..and before..and before..and before..and before..and before...
Posted by: lu at September 16, 2011 11:32 AM (pLTLS)
Posted by: joncelli at September 16, 2011 11:32 AM (RD7QR)
Well, wouldn't you like to be a Pepper too?
Posted by: As If! at September 16, 2011 11:33 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: Penfold at September 16, 2011 11:33 AM (1PeEC)
Posted by: Kathy from Kansas at September 16, 2011 03:28 PM (2AfqM)
She's marginalizing herself. Somebody needs to sit her down and say, "You are going nowhere. Ames was a nice organizing effort, but you are turning off everyone. Romney will not reward your efforts. You should stay in the race, mend some fences, say reasonable things, don't try to win and bow out after Iowa."
Posted by: AmishDude at September 16, 2011 11:33 AM (T0NGe)
Yeah, but usually the degrees they graduate with to go on to law school aren't real degrees either.
Posted by: AmishDude at September 16, 2011 03:30 PM (T0NGe)
Business management with a minor in economics.
You could always tell a person's political affiliation by thier undergrad. Business, engineering, and any math based were conservative, english, polysci, and humanities were libs.
Posted by: Jollyroger at September 16, 2011 11:34 AM (NCw5u)
Posted by: ace at September 16, 2011 11:34 AM (nj1bB)
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at September 16, 2011 11:34 AM (o2lIv)
Posted by: lu at September 16, 2011 03:32 PM (pLTLS)
The truth is never tedious.
Posted by: AmishDude at September 16, 2011 11:35 AM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Ugknown at September 16, 2011 11:35 AM (F1JEL)
He quit recently. Let me find it.
Posted by: AmishDude at September 16, 2011 11:36 AM (T0NGe)
Posted by: GnuBreed at September 16, 2011 11:36 AM (ENKCw)
Posted by: ace at September 16, 2011 11:36 AM (nj1bB)
Really?
I'm not on the Bachmann bandwagon. Like you, I hope Perry ups his game and ends the race for the R nomination decisively.
I'd just like to see everyone treated with some modicum of respect and accuracy.
Yes, Bachmann is guilty of loose shit. Name the pol that isn't. And the pol that doesn't double-down on that loose shit is rare to find as well. (Bernanke a traitor, anyone?)
I'm not asking anyone to carry anyone else's juice box. I'd just like to be able to enjoy a less acrimonious nomination process.
A pipe-dream, I suppose.
Posted by: krakatoa at September 16, 2011 11:37 AM (XnxHo)
Posted by: Ugknown at September 16, 2011 03:35 PM (F1JEL)
I would say yes, but this appeared spontaneous at the debate and he tried to walk it back to which she doubled down. I think its the canidate here.
Posted by: Jollyroger at September 16, 2011 11:37 AM (NCw5u)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at September 16, 2011 11:37 AM (lNGfM)
Posted by: robtr at September 16, 2011 11:38 AM (MtwBb)
Posted by: GnuBreed at September 16, 2011 03:36 PM (ENKCw)
Since Garfield. Before that, Lincoln.
In both cases, the House was more exclusive, having fewer members (about 75% of what we have now) and the parties were more clubbish. No TV, so people rarely saw a candidate, let alone heard him speak in person.
Posted by: AmishDude at September 16, 2011 11:38 AM (T0NGe)
He also said she should admit the mistake and move-on from there:
"Rollins, who advised Bachmann's campaign through the summer, said she should take it back.
'She made a mistake,' Rollins said on MSNBC. 'The quicker she admits she made a mistake and moves on, the better she is.'"
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at September 16, 2011 11:38 AM (o2lIv)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at September 16, 2011 11:39 AM (lNGfM)
Posted by: mpurinTexas, Evil Conservanatrix, supports Rick Perry, bitch at September 16, 2011 11:39 AM (pY3GI)
Posted by: Walter Freeman at September 16, 2011 11:40 AM (UsjBj)
I want to stop Perry. Sadly - it's has nothing to do with all these silly things about gardisil and/or SS. It's because I am scared to death of 4 more years of the obama regime.
Posted by: Lemon Kitten at September 16, 2011 11:40 AM (0fzsA)
Posted by: Jaynie59
This makes less than no sense. "allowed to allow"? You're supposed to take the Gardasil with a needle, not snort it. She wasn't forbidding anyone from getting anything. This is a pathetic strawman. As is the crap that's been bandied about here about parents not minding if their girls get cancer.
We get that most people here want Perry to be nominated. I do as well. What other depths must we plumb in order to gain this victory you crave? What other lies have to be pushed?
Posted by: a ham sandwich at September 16, 2011 11:40 AM (6rX0K)
It's a shame to me because I've been a solid supporter. Now she sounds more shrill and hyper-political than passionate - the antithesis of sound judgement and rational analysis expected of a Tea Partyer.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at September 16, 2011 11:40 AM (r4t7/)
It sounds like she's saying she has a JD and another degree in tax law.
Or does she just have a JD?
Posted by: soothsayer at September 16, 2011 11:40 AM (sqkOB)
She's currently not a serious candidate, either.
At least she went full whackjob before I started printing Perry/Bachmann bumper stickers. Wonder how long before she re-enacts the 'Dean Scream'?
Posted by: DarkLord© sez Obama is a stuttering clusterf--- of a miserable failure
Oh, and F--- Nevada! at September 16, 2011 11:41 AM (GBXon)
I think it time for Perry to show his pimp hand with Crazy Eyes.
Posted by: Sub-Tard at September 16, 2011 11:41 AM (0M3AQ)
Posted by: Ugknown at September 16, 2011 11:41 AM (F1JEL)
Bachman has a chance in hell. her annoying non-stop campaign phone calls did it for me. I like her (not as much as I like Palin) but she's not going anywhere. When did the R's forget that this stuff isn't helpful once we get to the general?
Posted by: Lemon Kitten at September 16, 2011 11:41 AM (0fzsA)
A few months ago I said on a thread that she was the "look at me" candidate with vanity run amok and got my ass handed to me here.
Posted by: As If! at September 16, 2011 11:41 AM (piMMO)
Proof: Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.
QED.
She has a natural interest in knocking all other candidates. She really doesn't need some deal with Romney to make this an attractive proposition for her.
She does, which is why I'm not completely on board, but it is interesting. Why would she take on T-Paw (who was number 2) instead of Romney at the beginning, and now Perry (who is, currently, number 1)... still instead of Romney?
Actually, I get attacking Perry instead of Romney- he's both the current frontrunner, and really damaging her support (because of constituency overlap). But that just makes gunning as hard as she did for T-Paw make less sense. Better to knock out Romney (then) and only have to go up against the (perceived) weaker of the semi-Rinos.
Again- not completely sold, but it is an interesting hypothesis.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at September 16, 2011 11:42 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: JackStraw at September 16, 2011 11:42 AM (TMB3S)
I'm just waiting for the snark to be directed at Romney at some point here, Ace.
How is this use of the gardasil thing any worse by Bachmann than is Romney saying "Perry wants to kill social security"
Bachmann gets labeled as crazy...Romney gets labeled as a guy just playing inisde baseball. K.
Posted by: Rich at September 16, 2011 11:42 AM (ldOlo)
I thought a J.D. was a doctor, and the advanced degree was a L.L.M. (master of law) in the legal profession. (Backwards, yes.)
Yes, the initial degree is the JD which is a juris doctorate and the LLM (master of law) is the advanced degree. Yup, it's backwards.
The whole real doctorate thing is based on the fact that my J.D. does not grant me the right to refer to myself as Dr. thechick. I would be Ms. thechick, Esq. instead.
Posted by: alexthechick at September 16, 2011 11:42 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: blaster at September 16, 2011 11:42 AM (l5dj7)
Posted by: ace at September 16, 2011 11:42 AM (nj1bB)
For the record, even Ph.D.s rarely go as "doctor".
Of course not, at least not in public. If you did, you'd be asked to handle every freakin' medical emergency that happens in your general vicinity.
No, sorry, wrong kind of doctor...
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at September 16, 2011 11:43 AM (1hM1d)
23 It's time for Michelle to make an ad that starts with "I am not a witch."
The real question is: Does she float or sink?
Posted by: Clutch Cargo at September 16, 2011 03:29 PM (p+mzQ)
She turned me into a Newt! and I DIDN'T get better...
Posted by: Newt.... Gingrich at September 16, 2011 11:43 AM (NtXW4)
Posted by: ace at September 16, 2011 11:43 AM (nj1bB)
>>>'She made a mistake,' Rollins said on MSNBC. 'The quicker she admits she made a mistake and moves on, the better she is.'"
That worked well for Perry...
Posted by: not neo just conservative at September 16, 2011 11:43 AM (01RS2)
If a candidate can be dragged down by a bad campaign manager....twice....then I seriously doubt their capabilities with regard to selecting a cabinet, or a personal secretary for that matter.
Posted by: As If! at September 16, 2011 11:43 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at September 16, 2011 11:43 AM (lNGfM)
Posted by: baldilocks at September 16, 2011 11:43 AM (T2/zQ)
Dr. Bachmann is all about science. She believes that an HPV vaccine can give you the retard but if you happen to catch the gay her hubby can cure you.
I, for one, would sleep soundly knowing this superior intellect had her finger on the nuclear football.
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What's this? Going after her husband's religion? So does this mean you are no longer so concerned about the millions and millions of anti-momon bigots that you claim dwell in our midst? Because clearly religion is on the table at this point for you.
Posted by: Rich at September 16, 2011 11:44 AM (ldOlo)
Posted by: JackStraw at September 16, 2011 11:45 AM (TMB3S)
"Not to be a dick"
That particular ship sailed a few days ago on this issue.
"selflessly defending innocent little girls from the needle-rape of sex-predator-doctors wielding jabs of Liquid Whore"
You are mocking, not Bachmann alone, but a fairly significant number of religious conservatives who do support this vaccination. Such people are the base of the GOP, among other things.
Posted by: Bob from Ohio at September 16, 2011 11:45 AM (ROFkf)
And, I think in Europe they call those with JD's doctors (but then, their education is different so, I don't know if it is comparable to the US).
But, she wasn't using the doctor because of her JD. She was making shit up to sound impressive and rationalized it--blame it on staff, no on will notice, a JD is technically a doctor, etc.--with some silly reason sane people don't use.
Posted by: Jimmuy at September 16, 2011 11:45 AM (8jC1s)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at September 16, 2011 11:45 AM (lNGfM)
It wouldn't be the first time a man has made promises to a crazy woman to get something he wanted.
It might result in a boiled bunny on the roof of Romney's car though...
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 16, 2011 11:46 AM (FkKjr)
Posted by: As If! at September 16, 2011 03:43 PM (piMMO)
As I was told by an Admiral once... Staff IS Policy.
Posted by: Romeo13 at September 16, 2011 11:46 AM (NtXW4)
Yep, it was a vanity run from the very beginning. She practically admitted as much when she said something along the lines of her campaign representing the Tea Party. She never expected to win, but perhaps got some false hope after managing to temporarily dupe a lot of voters into believing she was a legitimate candidate.
It's all about gaining personal stature and PAC contributions, attempting to position herself as the True Leader of the Tea Party. She doesn't care who she brings down with her or what damage is done to the chances of the GOP winning in 2012.
All that matters is how very important and under-appreciated Michele Bachmann is.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 16, 2011 11:46 AM (SY2Kh)
Opps. 114 should have been:
"You are mocking, not Bachmann alone, but a fairly significant number of religious conservatives who do NOT support this vaccination. Such people are the base of the GOP, among other things."
Posted by: Bob from Ohio at September 16, 2011 11:46 AM (ROFkf)
Posted by: ace at September 16, 2011 11:46 AM (nj1bB)
Posted by: karenm at September 16, 2011 11:46 AM (Xnxty)
Here's the strongest most recent Bachmann slam on Romneycare I can find.
Bachmann Slams Romneycare: The Mandate Is Unconstitutional At The State Level, Too! (VIDEO)
But your record retrieval skills are far better than my own. Hopefully this will help somehow.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at September 16, 2011 11:46 AM (9hSKh)
Posted by: Rich at September 16, 2011 11:46 AM (ldOlo)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at September 16, 2011 03:42 PM (8y9MW)
I think its for the same reason Palin's been sniping at Perry but not Romney. Perry is waaaaay more dangerous to thier brands. With Perry you get the same ideology but with 30% more competence and 12% more experience.
Its kinda why european parliments seperate the socialists (fascist and communists) on the opposite sides of the aisle even though they share rough ideology. It led to fights among members due to thier need to differentiate
Posted by: Jollyroger at September 16, 2011 11:47 AM (NCw5u)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at September 16, 2011 11:47 AM (lNGfM)
Posted by: alexthechick at September 16, 2011 11:47 AM (VtjlW)
A few months ago I said on a thread that she was the "look at me" candidate with vanity run amok and got my ass handed to me here.
Posted by: As If! at September 16, 2011 03:41 PM (piMMO)
If that were the case, she'd be attacking Romney.
If she didn't care about winning, she'd simply attack the biggest perceived RINO and get points for it. Or better, just ignore the horserace entirely and talk about principle.
No, she thinks this gives her an advantage in the race.
Posted by: AmishDude at September 16, 2011 11:47 AM (T0NGe)
You're supposed to take the Gardasil with a needle, not snort it.
Good to know. Now how many bottles of nail polish remover does someone have to drink before the nail polish starts to come off?
Posted by: FireHorse at September 16, 2011 11:47 AM (F5OMl)
And why such a fuss here about Bachmann? She ain't gonna get the nom....
Posted by: SantaRosaStan at September 16, 2011 11:47 AM (UqKQV)
Posted by: karenm at September 16, 2011 11:48 AM (Xnxty)
Posted by: willow at September 16, 2011 11:48 AM (h+qn8)
Posted by: lu at September 16, 2011 11:48 AM (pLTLS)
Posted by: karenm at September 16, 2011 03:46 PM (Xnxty)
I think she responded to the jobs speech too. Everyone else was watching football.
Posted by: Jollyroger at September 16, 2011 11:48 AM (NCw5u)
Posted by: blaster at September 16, 2011 11:48 AM (l5dj7)
I'm not sure you've noticed this, but I am sensing that you are beginning to have questions about Palin.
Posted by: cherry pi, terrorist hostage taking SOB at September 16, 2011 11:48 AM (OhYCU)
Bachmann Slams Romneycare: The Mandate Is Unconstitutional At The State Level, Too! (VIDEO)
Thank you, Kratos.
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at September 16, 2011 11:48 AM (o2lIv)
Posted by: museisluse at September 16, 2011 11:49 AM (4Lj43)
Fine, Ace! You don't like Bachmann. We get it, already.
The only chance she has of winning is if everyone else drops dead.
Are you going to be talking about her vagina, next?
Jeez...get a grip, will ya?
Posted by: Warren Bonesteel at September 16, 2011 11:49 AM (E7Z1r)
Posted by: mpurinTexas, Evil Conservanatrix, supports Rick Perry, bitch at September 16, 2011 11:49 AM (pY3GI)
Posted by: sandy burger at September 16, 2011 03:47 PM (XyoGP)
/golf clap...
Well played... a new meme.... welllll played Sir!
Posted by: Romeo13 at September 16, 2011 11:49 AM (NtXW4)
You're supposed to take the Gardasil with a needle, not snort it.
Good to know. Now how many bottles of nail polish remover does someone have to drink before the nail polish starts to come off?
Posted by: FireHorse
Dunno. Once I put up the drywall, I couldn't see the nails anymore
Posted by: a ham sandwich at September 16, 2011 11:49 AM (6rX0K)
That just reeks of the tagline for a new Demotivational poster featuring that crazy-eyes Bachmann photo from the Iowa straw poll timeframe.
Posted by: Demotivating into Friday evening at September 16, 2011 11:50 AM (Fg3Sj)
Responding to the question as to whether members of congress have earned reelection: 6% yes, 84% no, 10% don't know how to wipe their own asses and thus have no opinion.
Posted by: As If! at September 16, 2011 11:50 AM (piMMO)
Actually... unless there are some other opponents of Gardisil out there saying that Texas was "Forcing innocent young girls...," yes, he's mocking Bachmann alone. If there are others out there saying the same thing, they deserve to be mocked.
I hadn't heard the clip live, but I've heard it several times since- it was a line designed to conjure up images of rape. Okay, maybe not "designed," but definitely "that was going to."
That was bad enough, but then she jumped the Crazy Train with the "Gardisil gave a 12 yr-old Mental Retardation."
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at September 16, 2011 11:50 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: JackStraw at September 16, 2011 11:50 AM (TMB3S)
I thought Michele Bachmann couldn't take the 'Gardasil vaccine causes mental retardation" any lower than she did. But by now tring to say that she's not an expert who evuluate a claim she is standing by and doubledowning on, she proven my belief. She made a wild, patently false claim on national media. She refuse to retract it or correct herself. Now she's trying to weasel out of her responibility for saying while still positioned to take any political advantage it might give her.
Posted by: allo12 at September 16, 2011 11:50 AM (l219S)
Posted by: Joffen at September 16, 2011 11:50 AM (EPcuy)
Posted by: mpurinTexas, Evil Conservanatrix, supports Rick Perry, bitch at September 16, 2011 03:49 PM (pY3GI)
Three words... Te, Qui, La!
Posted by: Romeo13 at September 16, 2011 11:50 AM (NtXW4)
To answer your question, Ace. Romney can give her HPV.
Posted by: lauren at September 16, 2011 11:50 AM (VKD8C)
Posted by: ace at September 16, 2011 11:51 AM (nj1bB)
Posted by: Dumb_Blonde at September 16, 2011 11:52 AM (o9C/n)
Posted by: sifty at September 16, 2011 11:52 AM (4CSeG)
It's time for Ace to throw his hat into the ring.
He polls well with ewoks and morons (although he'll have trouble with the Hobo-American community and the Scandis), and the fact that he very probably did not receive Gardasil at puberty or sleep with Glenn Rice (or Glenn Beck) is a HUGE plus . . .
Posted by: filbert at September 16, 2011 11:52 AM (smvTK)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at September 16, 2011 11:52 AM (lNGfM)
Posted by: Rae4palin at September 16, 2011 11:53 AM (XPBjV)
Damn. He succeeding in saying what I wanted to say and did so with only three words.
Bravo, sir.
Posted by: As If! at September 16, 2011 11:53 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: cherry pi, terrorist hostage taking SOB at September 16, 2011 11:53 AM (OhYCU)
Not to be a dick
Too late.
Posted by: kdny at September 16, 2011 03:49 PM (KxHDw
You clazy man hahaha
Posted by: Won hung low at September 16, 2011 11:53 AM (I/MzF)
Posted by: Mike Hunt at September 16, 2011 11:53 AM (48wze)
On the lecture circuit with the likes of anti-vaccine nutjobs like Jenny McCarthy, *sighs*. Oh Michelle, how far you have fallen!
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at September 16, 2011 11:54 AM (9hSKh)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at September 16, 2011 11:54 AM (lNGfM)
Posted by: joncelli at September 16, 2011 11:54 AM (RD7QR)
Anti vax kooks are the base of the GOP? Maybe she could sew up the nomination by speaking in tongues and handling snakes in the next debate.
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at September 16, 2011 11:55 AM (+lsX1)
Posted by: LeBron Steinman
Look down.
Posted by: toby928™ at September 16, 2011 11:55 AM (GTbGH)
F it. I'll vote for Romney in the primary if he can give me some real clues about where he stands on this man-made global warming fantasy religion. Ok, I get that he's a wuss and doesn't want the NYT calling him anti-science. If he can just tell me he'll appoint someone to the EPA 180 degrees from Lisa Jackson, he can seal up my vote.
Posted by: Rich C at September 16, 2011 11:55 AM (Vqcn4)
Posted by: Bob Saget at September 16, 2011 11:55 AM (F/4zf)
Posted by: sonnyspats at September 16, 2011 11:55 AM (I/MzF)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at September 16, 2011 11:55 AM (AZGON)
But there was one résumé item that was missing: a Ph.D. Back in the late 1990s and early 2000s, when Bachmann traveled the state as an education activist, she went by "Dr. Michele Bachmann," even though she had never obtained nor sought the advanced degree that's a prerequisite for the title.
Hahahah, a lying creep. Dr. Crazee Eyes
I oppose Dr. Crazee Eye's Human Centipede project
Posted by: Max Power at September 16, 2011 11:55 AM (q177U)
Posted by: steevy at September 16, 2011 11:56 AM (fyOgS)
Posted by: willow at September 16, 2011 11:56 AM (h+qn8)
Posted by: Ugknown at September 16, 2011 11:56 AM (F1JEL)
finished researchin
No one considers the LLM to be equivalent to a PhD. If Michelle had an SJD instead of an LLM she could rightfully consider herself a doctor of law.
But neither her JD nor her LLM afford her that title.
Posted by: soothsayer at September 16, 2011 11:56 AM (sqkOB)
Posted by: Evilpens at September 16, 2011 11:56 AM (GnqB7)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at September 16, 2011 11:57 AM (lNGfM)
Ace has always been really consistent with his treatment of the, er... pro Polio community? Communicable disease lobby? Anti-Injection theorists? Whatever. But yeah, Michelle jumped Dr. Jenny McCarthy (M.D. Boobs) on this one.
Posted by: Jollyroger at September 16, 2011 11:57 AM (NCw5u)
Posted by: ace at September 16, 2011 11:57 AM (nj1bB)
I don't think there was any deal struck, but Bachmann knows who holds the butter knife.
Posted by: AmishDude at September 16, 2011 11:58 AM (T0NGe)
Posted by: phoenixgirl work computer at September 16, 2011 11:58 AM (IpiZb)
If you save lives, you're a doctor.
Everyone else that likes to put that Dr. in front of their names...? Poseurs.
Posted by: lu at September 16, 2011 11:58 AM (pLTLS)
>>>The Tea Party has to stop endorsing crappy politicians. They're hurting themselves.
Posted by: not neo just conservative at September 16, 2011 11:59 AM (01RS2)
Perry being one of them, now, since he calls it a mistake.
You can oppose this vaccination and also be bothered by Bachmann's ridiculous slanders.
Posted by: sandy burger at September 16, 2011 11:59 AM (XyoGP)
Posted by: baldilocks at September 16, 2011 11:59 AM (T2/zQ)
A woman approached Perry after the debates and sobbed that "Dr. Bachman sewed her daughter's mouth to someone else's bottom in a sort of human centipede project" When asked to confirm or deny this, Perry deflected by saying "I'm not a medical doctor or a scientist."
Posted by: Max Power at September 16, 2011 11:59 AM (q177U)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 16, 2011 12:00 PM (r4wIV)
That would be nice.
Here's a clue, though: He can't. You'll just have to decide if it's okay that he's okay with illegal minors receiving in-state tuition (though, as I understand it, in Texas- that's not actually "subsidized." The difference between in-state and out-of-state tuition is supposed to be to cover some administrative junk. I'm not familiar enough to say that definitively, however).
If that one thing is a deal-breaker, the deal will be broken, because he's still okay with it. I hope he got the message from the last debate and refrains from calling those who oppose it racist.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at September 16, 2011 12:00 PM (8y9MW)
IÂ’m taking bets on who surrenders first. Full disclosure: I already checked the market futures for white textiles. TheyÂ’re off the charts.
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at September 16, 2011 12:00 PM (jx2j9)
Ace, clearly you hate THE CHILDREN and also GOD and also PURITY.
If you supported any of the the three, you would know that our Blessed Mothers Bachman and Palin want only the best for you.
Posted by: lauren at September 16, 2011 12:00 PM (VKD8C)
Posted by: cherry pi, terrorist hostage taking SOB at September 16, 2011 12:00 PM (OhYCU)
Posted by: not neo just conservative at September 16, 2011 03:59 PM (01RS2)
We love them here in WA.
Posted by: Maria Cantwell-Senator For Ever Apparently at September 16, 2011 12:01 PM (EL+OC)
I don't have a problem with any parent not wanting their child to have this vaccination. Opt out, go to court, homeschool that's your assignment of risk of whether it is a life saving treatment or crazy juice.
What i do object to is that some people think the rest of the republican party has to be on board with you. It's not.
Posted by: robtr at September 16, 2011 12:01 PM (MtwBb)
Posted by: Evilpens at September 16, 2011 12:01 PM (GnqB7)
>>>The Tea Party has to stop endorsing crappy politicians. They're hurting themselves.
Posted by: not neo just conservative
We agree. They should try nominating candidates like Charlie Crist.
Posted by: The Republican party at September 16, 2011 12:01 PM (6rX0K)
Posted by: Billy Bob, the guy who drinks in SC at September 16, 2011 03:58 PM (hXJOG)
YES, WE DO !!!!!!
Posted by: Frogs at September 16, 2011 12:01 PM (UqKQV)
Posted by: Sub-Tard at September 16, 2011 12:02 PM (0M3AQ)
Everyone else that likes to put that Dr. in front of their names...? Poseurs.
Posted by: lu at September 16, 2011 03:58 PM (pLTLS)
I resent that defamatory remark.
Posted by: Dr. Barack Obama at September 16, 2011 03:59 PM (Lt/Za)
And heck, we saved lives... think of all those thousands and thousands of registered voters....
Posted by: Dr. Peter Venkman at September 16, 2011 12:02 PM (NtXW4)
Because Bachmann is actually in the news- those others pretty well aren't.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at September 16, 2011 12:02 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Max Power at September 16, 2011 12:02 PM (q177U)
Dr. Ace says accepting donations from pharamceuticals is evil but usingthe force of government to force you to do something is A-okay.
Strange I don't recall seeing Ace ever saying that the repeal of Perry's executive order was wrong. Wouldn't that be something who believes in the governments ability to force you to do something would be really pissed off about?
Posted by: buzzion at September 16, 2011 12:02 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: lu at September 16, 2011 12:02 PM (pLTLS)
NOW!! if Perry can explain this Version of the Dream Act
Texas passed a lot of "anti-immigration" bills and used the Dream Act as political cover. It had the support of the vast majority of the legislature, and Perry's veto wouldn't have held.
Posted by: lauren at September 16, 2011 12:02 PM (VKD8C)
2000: John McCain demonstrates his mental state by going on a four-day television bender, during which he said "gooks" on as many shows as he could find.
2020: Michele Bachmann gets clobbered in the general election by someone three steps to the left of Barack freakin' Obama. Bachmann wins the primary because, eight years earlier, no one called her on certain batshit utterances.
We'll stop Obama soon enough. But if Michele Bachmann always gets a pass, who's going to stop President Leahy?
Posted by: FireHorse at September 16, 2011 12:02 PM (F5OMl)
Posted by: ace at September 16, 2011 12:02 PM (nj1bB)
Maybe it has something to do with the states that the GOP will be fighting for, states which it doesn't have locked up and which aren't heavy on evangelicals?
Posted by: SFGoth at September 16, 2011 12:02 PM (dZ756)
It's because saying Gardasil causes retardation is idiotic. If you're right on all the issues but make idiotic, absurd statements, you're going to hand Urkel a second term. It's that simple.
Posted by: Rich C at September 16, 2011 12:03 PM (Vqcn4)
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at September 16, 2011 04:00 PM (jx2j9)
But Sarkozy is a Hungo; more T...
Posted by: Frogs at September 16, 2011 12:03 PM (UqKQV)
Posted by: ace at September 16, 2011 12:03 PM (nj1bB)
Posted by: baldilocks at September 16, 2011 03:59 PM (T2/zQ)
I think it was Megan McArdle's article in the Atlantic that said that this HPV was also being linked to throat and rectal cancer. It mentioned it might also be able to be spread by kissing. If true, then shit, this isn't different than any other disease we immunize for at all.
I'm not sure myself. Un like Dr. Bachmann I'm a lawyer, not a doctor.
Posted by: Jollyroger at September 16, 2011 12:03 PM (NCw5u)
Posted by: Billy Bob, the guy who drinks in SC at September 16, 2011 03:58 PM (hXJOG)
YES, WE DO !!!!!!
Posted by: Frogs at September 16, 2011 04:01 PM (UqKQV)
Dam straight... you think I could do the Piggy if it wasn't for Tequila????
Posted by: Kermit at September 16, 2011 12:03 PM (NtXW4)
Posted by: mpfs, TPT at September 16, 2011 12:04 PM (iYbLN)
Posted by: Huntsman at September 16, 2011 12:04 PM (Q/flu)
Posted by: Emperor of Icecream at September 16, 2011 12:04 PM (epBek)
It doesn't work that way. I repeat, I am not pounding on Bachmann over week-old statements. This post ONLY exists because she RENEWED the attack, TODAY.
Posted by: ace at September 16, 2011 04:02 PM (nj1bB)
okay, man, you're right: She should be pounded on, but most of us don't like the Collateral Damage
Posted by: Frogs at September 16, 2011 12:05 PM (UqKQV)
Bachmann said:
As a mother of three daughters, I believe that parents are the ones who should decide whether or not their young daughters should receive injections for sexually transmitted diseases.
Umm... I would hope that that is not even a consideration. I always thought the usual aspect was to innoculate against a disease or, in the worst case, injections for treatment of a disease. What parent would be for giving their child an injection for an STD?
Posted by: Dilligas at September 16, 2011 12:05 PM (HhjUQ)
Let's not let the tiny point of the pyramid be called "our base".
Posted by: sifty at September 16, 2011 12:05 PM (4CSeG)
Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at September 16, 2011 12:05 PM (xrKIH)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at September 16, 2011 12:06 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: ace at September 16, 2011 12:06 PM (nj1bB)
And that's what they whole hysterical Gardasil-stoked nonsense is--completely mental.
I've never had a good feeling about Bachmann. Everything that's gone on the past week or so has simply confirmed that feeling for me.
Posted by: filbert at September 16, 2011 12:06 PM (smvTK)
Posted by: JackStraw at September 16, 2011 12:06 PM (TMB3S)
They're popular in Nevada and Delaware too.
218
I never said they all were bad candidates, but the bad ones are really bad.
Posted by: not neo just conservative at September 16, 2011 12:06 PM (01RS2)
but I am paranoid that we will vet everyone out of winning.
how's that for silly.
i'm so desperate for a win.
btw is Powerline into jokes or parody like the Onion?
Posted by: willow at September 16, 2011 12:06 PM (h+qn8)
Posted by: cherry pi, terrorist hostage taking SOB at September 16, 2011 12:06 PM (OhYCU)
You suggest I was a poseur?
Posted by: Josef Mengele at September 16, 2011 04:04 PM (Lt/Za)
More of a monsteur.
Posted by: sifty at September 16, 2011 12:06 PM (4CSeG)
Crazy Eyes Syndrome.
She should really have her thyroid checked. My BIL has Graves Disease. It causes Crazy Eyes Syndrome and also just plain craziness.
Posted by: lauren at September 16, 2011 12:07 PM (VKD8C)
It just struck me as funny that by the time the election comes around we probably won't even remember any of this.
That's how far away it is.
Posted by: eleven at September 16, 2011 12:07 PM (fsLdt)
Posted by: ace at September 16, 2011 12:07 PM (nj1bB)
Posted by: Honey Badger at September 16, 2011 12:07 PM (GvYeG)
Posted by: jeannebodine, sum b*tch at September 16, 2011 12:08 PM (nvlAW)
Posted by: robtr at September 16, 2011 12:08 PM (MtwBb)
"She's not backing off her previous claim that some woman "cried hysterically" to her and..."
There you go again: Bachmann and her intimate conversations with her bathroom mirror.
The Congresswoman from St.Olaf 4 President!!!!
Posted by: Elize Nayden at September 16, 2011 12:08 PM (v49dF)
unlike others, I hate R primaries. The Dems have no principles, so they can gleefully shred each other and no one really gets hurt
with Rs, blood is shed
Posted by: SantaRosaStan at September 16, 2011 12:08 PM (UqKQV)
That's exactly right. The democrats would never run an out-of-the-closet Truther. He might be able to win Vermont, but he would lose nationally in a landslide.
Democrats understand electability while while we're still nominating Angles and O'Donnells because it feels soooo gooooood.
Posted by: Rich C at September 16, 2011 12:08 PM (Vqcn4)
Posted by: Pam Geller at September 16, 2011 12:09 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: sifty at September 16, 2011 12:09 PM (4CSeG)
Posted by: toby928™ at September 16, 2011 12:10 PM (GTbGH)
Posted by: phoenixgirl work computer at September 16, 2011 12:10 PM (IpiZb)
As a mother of three daughters, I believe that parents are the ones who should decide whether or not their young daughters should receive injections for sexually transmitted diseases.
Umm... I would hope that that is not even a consideration. I always thought the usual aspect was to innoculate against a disease or, in the worst case, injections for treatment of a disease. What parent would be for giving their child an injection for an STD?
Posted by: Dilligas///
I'm also lawyer, and I nitpick grammar, so, "for" does not just mean "in support of", but also "appropriate towards".
Posted by: SFGoth at September 16, 2011 12:10 PM (dZ756)
Posted by: sifty
Only once every Moon.
Posted by: Chief too much info at September 16, 2011 12:10 PM (6rX0K)
Posted by: Honey Badger at September 16, 2011 12:10 PM (GvYeG)
Posted by: lu at September 16, 2011 12:10 PM (pLTLS)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at September 16, 2011 12:11 PM (AZGON)
We have flawed candidates and it's depressing. But we have to pick one that can win. Who will it be? Fuck if I know.
Of course leftwing democrats are allowed to be as flawed and as corrupt as necessary.
Posted by: Lemon Kitten at September 16, 2011 12:11 PM (0fzsA)
Posted by: ace at September 16, 2011 03:57 PM (nj1bB)
Bcause she has said the correct words and is a true conservative, so any criticism or disagreement regarding positions and tactics is sign that you want to keep the SCOAMF in the white House.
Posted by: Mikey NTH at September 16, 2011 12:12 PM (hLRSq)
Posted by: cherry pi, terrorist hostage taking SOB at September 16, 2011 12:12 PM (OhYCU)
As a mother of three daughters, I believe that parents are the ones who should decide whether or not their young daughters should receive injections for sexually transmitted diseases.
They were supposed to be the ones to decide. They could opt out if they didn't want it.
Posted by: dagny at September 16, 2011 12:12 PM (MtBk+)
At this specific point in time, I’d be asking the administration, “Are you on crack? You don’t see anything wrong with this?”
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at September 16, 2011 12:13 PM (jx2j9)
Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at September 16, 2011 12:13 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: As If! at September 16, 2011 12:13 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: sifty at September 16, 2011 12:13 PM (4CSeG)
Tell me about it, ace.
I gave an exam today. On the syllabus, "you must remember your section number and put it on each exams or points will be deducted." Two days ago in class, same thing. A paper projected onto the wall stating the same thing as they walked into the exam.
The section number is literally one letter of the alphabet and one digit.
That is all. But apparently the rules apply to everybody but me.
Posted by: AmishDude at September 16, 2011 12:14 PM (T0NGe)
The old way? This entire episode is causing her to bleed support. Even if they knock Perry out, I don't think Bachmann will benefit - at all.
She is looking more and more like nothing more than an opportunist and is starting to remind me of Loretta Sanchez and her political opportunism.
That ain't good.
Posted by: blindside at September 16, 2011 12:14 PM (3Uns6)
Dr. Ace is on the crazy train. He doesn't feel that other candidates taking pharmaceutical money is evil but somehow Bachman is beyond the pale. This sounds like the Obama scale of evidence to me.
So if Ace can use his filters to distort what is presented and how it is presented what is the difference between Ace and LGF or even the DU?
It would be nice if Ace could refrain from such obvious ploys. They only serve to divide when done so blantantly.
Posted by: Molon Labe at September 16, 2011 12:14 PM (S7K8x)
Surgeon General? She could give Joyce Elders a run for her money. I guess you can say one thing in favor of Obama: I don't even know who his Surgeon General is. I looked it up on Wikipedia, and she is a complete unknown. I never even heard her name before. Just the way I like it.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at September 16, 2011 12:15 PM (k34Gz)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at September 16, 2011 12:15 PM (AZGON)
I hate to imagine. Revolt, I tell you.
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at September 16, 2011 12:15 PM (jx2j9)
It's ineffectual against 196 out of the 200 known variations of HPV
That's because 4 strains of the disease cause 98% of cancer and genital warts.
Posted by: lauren at September 16, 2011 12:15 PM (VKD8C)
257 WTF is Perrycare???
The vacination of nympho 12 year old Texas sluts with whore juice. Best I can make of it. But better yet, why not ask Crazy Eyes, she is the one calling it that.
Posted by: Sub-Tard at September 16, 2011 12:16 PM (0M3AQ)
It's a shame to me because I've been a solid supporter. Now she sounds more shrill and hyper-political than passionate - the antithesis of sound judgement and rational analysis expected of a Tea Partyer.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at September 16, 2011 03:40 PM (r4t7/)
This is exactly where I am at.
Posted by: blindside at September 16, 2011 12:16 PM (3Uns6)
Bachmann is going to keep f*cking that chicken. We just better pray that chick has been vaccinated.
Posted by: mpfs, TPT at September 16, 2011 12:16 PM (iYbLN)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 16, 2011 12:16 PM (UlUS4)
Posted by: kansas at September 16, 2011 12:16 PM (mka2b)
Only whores kiss before marriage.
Posted by: Jeff B. at September 16, 2011 12:17 PM (hIWe1)
Is Liquid Whore even on the market yet? Is it in the same aisle as Liquid Plum'r?
In both cases, a hole and a clump of hair is involved. And should you need a specialist afterward, it'll cost ya.
Posted by: Chief too much info at September 16, 2011 12:17 PM (6rX0K)
You guys are cracking me up.
Posted by: cherry pi, terrorist hostage taking SOB at September 16, 2011 12:17 PM (OhYCU)
Posted by: Pam Geller at September 16, 2011 12:17 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: Ugknown at September 16, 2011 12:17 PM (F1JEL)
It's ineffectual against 196 out of the 200 known variations of HPV
That's because 4 strains of the disease cause 98% of cancer and genital warts.
Genital warts smell. I was told this by a Battalion surgeon. Seems some Marines picked it up in the Phillipines. Never could figure how though.
Posted by: Sub-Tard at September 16, 2011 12:18 PM (0M3AQ)
It just struck me as funny that by the time the election comes around we probably won't even remember any of this.
That's how far away it is.
Posted by: eleven at September 16, 2011 04:07 PM (fsLdt)
I love this part of election cycles. Every thread is a flame war.
Ms. Bachmann......get a grip. (She's like Hans Gruber, trying to take that last killing shot right before she falls to her prez primary death)
Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at September 16, 2011 12:18 PM (xrKIH)
Dr. Corndog bites off more than she can chooo
Posted by: Cricket at September 16, 2011 12:18 PM (DrC22)
Posted by: Honey Badger at September 16, 2011 12:18 PM (GvYeG)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 16, 2011 12:18 PM (UlUS4)
Posted by: Ben at September 16, 2011 12:18 PM (wuv1c)
"I'm pretty sure that there are more Democrats who believe that 9/11 was an inside job than there are Christians who believe the Earth is 4000 years old,..."
I'm positive.
Posted by: Lemon Kitten at September 16, 2011 12:18 PM (0fzsA)
Posted by: cherry pi, terrorist hostage taking SOB at September 16, 2011 12:18 PM (OhYCU)
Yeah, I'll call her up using the red phone.
Posted by: AmishDude at September 16, 2011 12:18 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at September 16, 2011 12:19 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 16, 2011 12:19 PM (UlUS4)
I think Bachmann stuck her foot in her mouth by saying she met someone whose little girl became retarded from the vaccine, and now she's trying to convince everyone that she meant to do that and it tastes great and everyone else should try it.
She can't gracefully walk it back even though it doesn't poll well, so she, like teh SCOAMF does, has to try to convince everyone that she's right.
Too bad. I had an open mind about her until that debate.
Posted by: Marmo at September 16, 2011 12:19 PM (InrkQ)
Posted by: mpfs, TPT at September 16, 2011 12:19 PM (iYbLN)
She, too, is a narcissist.
Posted by: As If! at September 16, 2011 03:32 PM (piMMO)
Yep. That was the big, red flag. She tried to co-opt the thing.
Posted by: long toss at September 16, 2011 12:20 PM (bd1FS)
>>>I love this part of election cycles. Every thread is a flame war.
I enjoy it too.
flame wars can be fun. It's always an enjoyable debate and occasionally people make hilarious statements.
But whatever happens, we'll all crack open a beer on Nov 2, 2012 and drink the the new Republican president who will be going into office with a Republican house and senate.
Posted by: Ben at September 16, 2011 12:20 PM (wuv1c)
HereÂ’s what the CDC says about HPV.
Translation: Cancer of the penis will absolutely kill women –
horribly and painfully. And most of your daughters are going to have sex whether you want them to or not.
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at September 16, 2011 12:20 PM (jx2j9)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at September 16, 2011 12:20 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 16, 2011 12:20 PM (UlUS4)
Ummm... yeah, what's the percentage chance of that? Vs. your reduced chances of getting the flu by getting the vaccine?
And the problem isn't that "a woman claimed to her..." The problem is she used this anonymous (and, possibly, fictitious) woman's accusation as a campaign attack.
Think about that for minute- even if this woman existed (still no guarantee of that), and had come up to Bachmann crying, as claimed, Bachmann would not have even mentioned the interaction on national TV if she didn't intend to use it to harm Rick Perry's campaign. SO, either she believes it, and is a loon, or she doesn't and is a liar.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at September 16, 2011 12:21 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Comrade Arthur at September 16, 2011 12:21 PM (5Z/+/)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at September 16, 2011 12:21 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 16, 2011 12:21 PM (UlUS4)
Why can't you just make your case reasonably, without buttressing it with misleading information? Jeez, this nonsense is tiresome.
That's like objecting to the measles vaccine because it doesn't prevent influenza.
Posted by: sandy burger at September 16, 2011 12:22 PM (XyoGP)
I'm lined up with ya. In fact, I've never personally known a Christian who believed the <5k years bit. And, even here in the South, I've never been asked to hold a rattlesnake.
Posted by: As If! at September 16, 2011 12:22 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 16, 2011 12:22 PM (UlUS4)
Living in Texas during this entire issue, I can tell you that Perry didn't fast rope down from a Blackhawk in the middle of the night and inject by daughter.
My wife and I decided to do it (it's actually a series of three shots) because, well, teenagers have sex. Nobody made us do shit. Do you understand that? Do you understand that?
Dr. Bachmann is two tacos short of a combo plate. That is all.
Posted by: Sgt. Fury at September 16, 2011 12:22 PM (ONGHB)
Once she gets her money back, or as much as her nutter fans can spare, she can withdraw. Maybe her husband can help her pray away the crazy.
Posted by: Adjoran at September 16, 2011 12:22 PM (VfmLu)
Posted by: mpfs, TPT at September 16, 2011 12:22 PM (iYbLN)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at September 16, 2011 12:23 PM (AZGON)
The worst part of this is that Bachmann seems to think she's on to something here. Is she that politically inept? Doesn't she realize this isn't something to latch onto. If anything this is a big mistake that she should move on from.
Posted by: Ben at September 16, 2011 12:23 PM (wuv1c)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at September 16, 2011 12:23 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: As If! at September 16, 2011 12:24 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Joffen at September 16, 2011 12:24 PM (EPcuy)
Molon Labe at September 16, 2011 04:14 PM (S7K8x)
But it is OK for Bachmann to throw rocks and lies, along with Romney, and get no response back.
Why the double standard dip shit?
Posted by: Dick Nixon at September 16, 2011 12:24 PM (kaOJx)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 16, 2011 12:24 PM (UlUS4)
>>>Then I hope RonRico is running. Or that dark Myers guy.
I don't often drink politicians, but when I do, I drink Marco Rubio.
Posted by: Ben at September 16, 2011 12:24 PM (wuv1c)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at September 16, 2011 12:24 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 16, 2011 12:24 PM (UlUS4)
I have, but it was at some science-y thing and the snake had just been milked.
I also declined.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at September 16, 2011 12:25 PM (8y9MW)
Where do I squirt it?
Posted by: cherry pi, terrorist hostage taking SOB at September 16, 2011 04:20 PM (OhYCU)
The free turkey baster should tip you off
Posted by: Red Shirt at September 16, 2011 12:25 PM (FIDMq)
!!!
Four out of five doctors agree that reading this website @ work can be detrimental to your credibility and professionalism.
Posted by: lu at September 16, 2011 12:25 PM (pLTLS)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 16, 2011 12:25 PM (UlUS4)
No, just hoping to deal with actual issues rather than distractions. I may be wrong, but I thought this whole vaccination prong wasn't registering w/ voters, and therefore qualified as a distraction.
If I'm wrong, well then, I'm wrong.
But it's just not an issue for me, and I suspect not for many others.
And throwing out "screechy" seems particularly unhelpful.
I'm not saying she didn't start the negative politics. I'm not saying she did either. I'm just saying it's be nice to try to remain above it.
Honestly, I think it is just a pipe-dream of mine, that an election, or even a nominating process, could be based more on substance than on trivial shit like this.
Just my 2 cents.
Posted by: krakatoa at September 16, 2011 12:26 PM (XnxHo)
But that would be an acceptable attack. That he rushed through approval to mandate and was too close to the company that makes it. Or that we need fewer mandates in our failing public schools
But to argue there's something wrong with the medicine itself is where it goes into kookoo town.
Posted by: AmishDude at September 16, 2011 12:26 PM (T0NGe)
I don't know how to set up a link, but now Crazy Eyes is trying to link Rick Perry and the HPV vaccine to Solyndra.
Posted by: Retire the JEF at September 16, 2011 12:26 PM (lLXZV)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 16, 2011 12:26 PM (UlUS4)
Posted by: Doom at September 16, 2011 12:26 PM (1awZ0)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 16, 2011 12:27 PM (UlUS4)
And 100% deliberately misleading.
You keep talking about the hundreds of HPV viruses not prevented by this vaccine. But, they don't normally cause cancer, so who cares?
Posted by: sandy burger at September 16, 2011 12:28 PM (XyoGP)
A few french fries short of a Happy Meal.
Posted by: As If! at September 16, 2011 12:28 PM (piMMO)
I actually heard that clip on the radio this morning, and I'm not completely sure he got across what he was trying to get across. I could be wrong (because it's Pat Robertson, and the guy is certifiable), but it sounded like what he was actually saying was "Dude, don't cheat on her- if you're not up to taking care of her, and you want some sweet, sweet lovin', at least have the decency to make sure she's taken care of, and then divorce her."
Which is not exactly noble, but is better than the situation as presented in the letter from the viewer.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at September 16, 2011 12:28 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: cherry pi, terrorist hostage taking SOB at September 16, 2011 04:20 PM (OhYCU)
I usually try to hit the mouth, but with most whores that's extra. You could also try the ZZ Top method if she's into fine jewelry
Posted by: Jollyroger at September 16, 2011 12:28 PM (NCw5u)
Posted by: cherry pi, terrorist hostage taking SOB at September 16, 2011 12:29 PM (OhYCU)
Posted by: kansas at September 16, 2011 04:16 PM (mka2b) I set up prelicense clinical safety trials for animal vaccines for 17 years. Always remember the bell shaped curve. if you inject foreign material into enough subjects, there will be some untoward reactions afterward. There may be a causal or coincidental relationship, which is a statistical question. The toughest thing about writing the study protocol is to be able to collect that data in a way it can be analyzed properly.
Posted by: long toss at September 16, 2011 12:29 PM (bd1FS)
The worst part of this is that Bachmann seems to think she's on to something here. Is she that politically inept? Doesn't she realize this isn't something to latch onto. If anything this is a big mistake that she should move on from.
Posted by: Ben at September 16, 2011 04:23 PM (wuv1c)
Remember who her campaign manager is.
Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at September 16, 2011 12:30 PM (xrKIH)
I also declined.
I don't want to be bitten by a three year old child either! I don't want to be bitten by anything with teeth even if they aren't poisonous!
Posted by: As If! at September 16, 2011 12:31 PM (piMMO)
Go to TinyURL.com and feed the link into that, and post it here. If this is true, well...it's kind of awesome in its hilarity, honestly. She's pulled the full-on Crazy Train O'Donnell at this point. Soon she'll be telling us about how Rick Perry's campaign people are hiding in the bushes outside her home.
Posted by: Jeff B. at September 16, 2011 12:31 PM (hIWe1)
Can't get to the link (it's timing out) care to summarize beyond the headline?
If that's what it sounds like, she's going even further off the tracks.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at September 16, 2011 12:31 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: lauren at September 16, 2011 12:31 PM (VKD8C)
Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at September 16, 2011 04:30 PM (xrKIH)
Was.
And don't keep blaming her staff - if she really objected, she wouldn't be taking this line of attack.
Posted by: Mætenloch at September 16, 2011 12:31 PM (pAlYe)
Posted by: Honey Badger at September 16, 2011 12:32 PM (GvYeG)
We don't hide. We take out big freaking handguns, point it at you, and say "You don't see me." It works every time.
Posted by: Rick Perry Official Spy at September 16, 2011 12:33 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: cherry pi, terrorist hostage taking SOB at September 16, 2011 12:33 PM (OhYCU)
>>>Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at September 16, 2011 04:30 PM (xrKIH)
Ed Rollins would NEVER allow one of his charges to fly off the rails like this. I think it far more likely that he departed from the campaign precisely because he was getting pushback from Bachmann and her closest advisors (read: family) that she wanted to be more Crazy Train than she had been up until that point.
Coincidentally she seems to have gone totally bugfuck nuts after Rollins said 'adios!'
Posted by: Jeff B. at September 16, 2011 12:33 PM (hIWe1)
Posted by: Cricket at September 16, 2011 12:33 PM (DrC22)
If Bachmann were doing this to the dems in the 90s Hillary would have had her Arkansided. I'm not sure in this case that wouldn't be a bad idea, not as drastic though, maybe just a flat tire or something to get the message across.
Michelle, stfu.!!
Posted by: dagny at September 16, 2011 12:34 PM (MtBk+)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at September 16, 2011 12:34 PM (AZGON)
I, too, believe he was saying that divorcing a spouse if preferable to screwing around. However, he supported it not by saying that the adulterer was wrong, and divorce is less-wrong, but JUSTIFIED his actions by saying that his spouse was dying.
Posted by: As If! at September 16, 2011 12:34 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: proudonkey at September 16, 2011 12:34 PM (NadeK)
Posted by: Perry Supporter at September 16, 2011 12:34 PM (7qc/9)
Posted by: dagny at September 16, 2011 12:35 PM (MtBk+)
Police in Berlin are baffled over the identity of a boy who emerged from the forest, saying he'd lived there for five years with his father, who recently died from a Vagisil injection.
Ok, I added the last part.
Posted by: cherry pi, terrorist hostage taking SOB at September 16, 2011 12:35 PM (OhYCU)
HereÂ’s what the CDC says about HPV.
Translation: Cancer of the penis will absolutely kill women –
horribly and painfully. And most of your daughters are going to have sex whether you want them to or not.
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at September 16, 2011 04:20 PM (jx2j9)
Yeah, it's not like girls are abstaining because they might get cervical cancer. AIDS, herpes and pregnancy are the practical disincentives. Also, the fact that girls are usually emotionally devastated by having sex too early.
Besides, they'll want to get it at some point in their lives.
I think there's a reflexive exhaustion by parents, especially conservative parents, who look at a "mandate" at the school and are having enough time counteracting the America-hating American history and the human sexuality course with the lab section. The "oh, God, what's this now?" was likely strong at the time. And by pushing it through via executive order, it didn't help. It fueled the perception that, absent the mandate, parents wouldn't want it.
I can understand the backlash among Texas parents for these reasons and the notion that Merck was too close to Perry. It's a reasonable attack.
But promulgating these lies for cheap political points is too far.
Posted by: AmishDude at September 16, 2011 12:35 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: As If! at September 16, 2011 04:24 PM (piMMO)
Huh, he's still Christian, right?
Posted by: KG at September 16, 2011 12:36 PM (LD21B)
Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at September 16, 2011 04:30 PM (xrKIH)
Was.
And don't keep blaming her staff - if she really objected, she wouldn't be taking this line of attack.
Posted by: Mætenloch at September 16, 2011 04:31 PM (pAlYe)
When? I thought I saw an article in HA about him in that function earlier in the week.
Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at September 16, 2011 12:36 PM (xrKIH)
Or just tell me the website and I'll go find it.
Posted by: As If! at September 16, 2011 12:37 PM (piMMO)
"my how quickly things change"
It has. Obamateur is now blaming the JOOOS for his impending unemployment.
Posted by: Dick Nixon at September 16, 2011 12:37 PM (kaOJx)
If that's what it sounds like, she's going even further off the tracks.
"It's wrong to abuse executive authority with unilateral action, and of course the governor of Texas admitted as much that he made a mistake. People don't want a president or a governor making decisions based on political connections. It's wrong."
She later repeated her remarks about how she's not a doctor or a scientist but was merely repeating what this mother told her.
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at September 16, 2011 12:38 PM (o2lIv)
Posted by: proudonkey at September 16, 2011 04:34 PM
Yes, things can change quickly, dum-dum
You're still an idiot. That's a constant
Posted by: kbdabear at September 16, 2011 12:39 PM (Y+DPZ)
And the measles vaccine won't protect you against ebola, either. So what? This vaccine would prevent 70% of cervical cancer cases.
Does that mean it should be forced on people? No.
Are you attempting to lie with statistics? Yes.
Posted by: sandy burger at September 16, 2011 12:39 PM (XyoGP)
Posted by: Lady in Black at September 16, 2011 12:40 PM (ycuSb)
If Ed Freaking Rollins is perceived as being too strict in suggesting you tone it down a bit, you might have a problem. It would be like Fred Phelps asking you to dial back on the religious anti-gay rhetoric a little.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 16, 2011 12:40 PM (SY2Kh)
"Seems like nobody here is remembering Reagan's 11th."
Especially ST Palin the Spineless and Dr Strangelove.
Posted by: Dick Nixon at September 16, 2011 12:41 PM (kaOJx)
It's ineffectual against 196 out of the 200 known variations of HPV
That's because 4 strains of the disease cause 98% of cancer and genital warts.
Posted by: lauren at September 16, 2011 04:15 PM (VKD8C)
Tried explaining this to him yesterday. He's also ignoring the fact that only about 40 variations of HPV spread as STDs. So its actually protecting against 10% of the STD strains of HPV, and still its the ones that account for 70% of cervical cancer and 90% of genital warts.
And really the whole "this drug will encourage girls to be sluts" is stupid. Its kind of like saying "Flu vaccinations will encourage people to mess around with the Ebola Virus!"
Posted by: buzzion at September 16, 2011 12:43 PM (GULKT)
I've not been here a little bit and now its ok to criticize the moose queen? wow...I missed a lot lol
Posted by: proudonkey at September 16, 2011 12:43 PM (NadeK)
The new unfolding strategy seen throughout this past week is Perry is just like Obama.
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at September 16, 2011 12:44 PM (o2lIv)
Posted by: Dick Nixon at September 16, 2011 12:45 PM (kaOJx)
1.) Not even Reagan observed Reagan's "11th Commandment." It was politically savvy eyewash he used to his advantage to shut down people who wondered why he put the man he most savagely fought against in the 1980 primary (George H.W. Bush) on his ticket.
2.) Even if one believes in the "11th Commandment," it most certainly doesn't apply to primary candidates, who are fighting against one another for the nomination. It applies, rather, to the idea of uniting behind the presidential nominee once he's been chosen. To a lesser extent it also relates to the principle of a GOP politician not throwing stones at other candidates unless he/she themselves are in the race (i.e. what Palin is currently doing).
3.) It's a primary, for god's sake. What are we supposed to do, NOT defend our preferred candidate or criticize others? For all the talk about how AoSHQ is Perry Central, any cursory look through the comments would reveal that there is a LOT of doubt about him, several people who outright prefer Romney, the occasional forlorn Palinista, etc. etc. Not a lot of lockstep around here right now.
Posted by: Jeff B. at September 16, 2011 12:46 PM (hIWe1)
I don't really have a favorite. I wish I did, but nobody is really appealing to me.
Bachmann is out for me now, though. This kind of ignorant slanderous fear-mongering is unacceptable. That hardly makes me rabidly pro-Perry, though.
Posted by: sandy burger at September 16, 2011 12:46 PM (XyoGP)
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at September 16, 2011 04:44 PM (o2lIv)
I thought the meme was he was Booooosh part 2. Hard to keep up
Posted by: Red Shirt at September 16, 2011 12:47 PM (FIDMq)
Posted by: sandy burger at September 16, 2011 12:48 PM (XyoGP)
Posted by: proudonkey at September 16, 2011 04:34 PM (NadeK)
Hey look. Someone dumber than Bachmann! Maybe Dum Dum got the Gardisil shot.
Posted by: buzzion at September 16, 2011 12:49 PM (GULKT)
I actually have grown to really like Perry...and before the debates I had a very low opinion on him. If he could convert someone like me, he has a decent shot of challenging Obama.
Posted by: proudonkey at September 16, 2011 12:50 PM (NadeK)
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at September 16, 2011 04:44 PM (o2lIv)
That isn't going to work as she hopes. Major backlash.
She's off the rails. That's O.K.
Posted by: long toss at September 16, 2011 12:50 PM (bd1FS)
Okay Jeff B. just said everything I was going to say.
The Reagan "11th Commandment" exists mostly in mythology anyway. Even Reagan didn't always follow it, and for sure not during the GOP primaries.
Posted by: Mætenloch at September 16, 2011 12:50 PM (pAlYe)
15
I find it hard to believe a) that Bachmann did not earn a phd and lied about it, and b) anything posted at motherfucker jones.
Posted by: soothsayer at September 16, 2011 03:24 PM (sqkOB)
I Googled "Dr. Michele Bachmann" with a range of 1/1/1998 to 12/31/2004 and came up with two references, neither of which were from Bachmann herself, but these people had to get the idea she was a Dr. from somewhere.
Personally, I think she's crossed the bridge from strident conservative to kook by not backing off of the "mental retardation" story.
Posted by: holygoat at September 16, 2011 12:51 PM (XnwWl)
Posted by: naturalfake at September 16, 2011 12:53 PM (jkSbV)
Personally, I think she's crossed the bridge from strident conservative to kook by not backing off of the "mental retardation" story.
Posted by: holygoat at September 16, 2011 04:51 PM (XnwWl)
IMHO, Bachmann's behaviour lines up very well with the affects of menopause. Women can get really bugshit crazy during that time in life.
Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at September 16, 2011 12:55 PM (xrKIH)
With a Juris Doctor, so long as she was not holding a license to practice law in any jurisdiction, she can call herself doctor.
I don't find it objectionable, just silly - but then I am a non-practicing lawyer myself - but NEVER called myself Doctor.
Posted by: Sawbuck at September 16, 2011 12:55 PM (v0ZHD)
Any explanation over four-characters long was more than I would have offered to him.
Posted by: As If! at September 16, 2011 12:56 PM (piMMO)
Oh, please.
Posted by: As If! at September 16, 2011 12:57 PM (piMMO)
These "social conservatives" need to stop de-evolving into the worst caricatures most people have of them, then.
Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at September 16, 2011 01:00 PM (dIHHd)
Just for everyone to see:
Ace, if you or anyone else who runs the board tell me I've crossed the line and that I'm banned, I'll respect your wishes and stop posting.
But I've only been respectful in my posts and generally don't respond to the insults, so I don't think why I would be banned.
Posted by: palin steele at June 17, 2009 05:41 PM (VDj74)
Banned twice and still he comes back. Palin Steele/Donkeyhotay/Cain's Pizzera/proudonkey, is an idiot and a liar.
Posted by: buzzion at September 16, 2011 01:01 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: Sawbuck at September 16, 2011 01:01 PM (v0ZHD)
Its.....really hard to watch someone with a self-inflicted wound, keep hitting it and making it bleed again.
Someone make her stop....please.
Some please pull her aside and clue her in; there is no competition going on for jumping-the-shark. That's not a contest you want to win.
Posted by: ConservativeMenAreJustHotter at September 16, 2011 01:02 PM (n6K0o)
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at September 16, 2011 01:09 PM (o2lIv)
Posted by: Miikeb at September 16, 2011 01:13 PM (yGRua)
They were even making fun of Bachmann on Megyn Kelly's show today. ....Two doctors, Dr. Manny Alvarez and some blonde lady Doctor (didn't catch name), were laughing at Bachmann getting around to saying that 'she's not a doctor".....Dr. Manny laughed, looked at the camera and said "Duh!".
He went on to give Rick Perry an "A" for his position on this, and Bachman a "D" iirc. The blonde Dr. seemed to agree.
I have liked Michele Bachman's fighting spirit in Congress, and seeing her stand up to Pelosi.....but this is embarrassing to watch her do this.
Posted by: ConservativeMenAreJustHotter at September 16, 2011 01:21 PM (n6K0o)
Posted by: Ken at September 16, 2011 01:24 PM (3ar4L)
Posted by: Oily Taitz at September 16, 2011 01:26 PM (lC1yS)
Posted by: Oily Taitz at September 16, 2011 01:30 PM (lC1yS)
Bachman had her Shot and she Blew it! (See what I did there?)
Posted by: Spicoli at September 16, 2011 01:55 PM (JMsOK)
Posted by: The terrorist Hobbit formerly known as Donna at September 16, 2011 02:15 PM (5Wl/f)
Posted by: BOB NW at September 16, 2011 02:30 PM (SBFeP)
What's with that?I really like Sarah, but I just don't think she can overcome her negatives. There's an awful lot of hate out there for her. Undeserved I might add.Every time I bring up her negatives, I'm deluged with attacks.
Posted by: The terrorist Hobbit formerly known as Donna at September 16, 2011 02:33 PM (5Wl/f)
Yes, you could say that Sarah Palin is polarizing. She gets Republicans to turn against each other.
Posted by: BOB NW at September 16, 2011 02:38 PM (SBFeP)
Posted by: standfast24 at September 16, 2011 02:45 PM (s4wkw)
In the debate she did mention that Obamacare can't be repealed by executive order like Romney says... except that isn't what he says.... he says he will issue a blanket waiver by executive order and then pursue repeal.
But if Perry took her peeps, she is after him, you know what they say about a woman scorned.
Posted by: petunia at September 16, 2011 02:50 PM (hgrmi)
Juris Doctor, dude.
Like Dr. Ace, or Dr. Gabe Malor (I know at least one of you guys is a Doctor, I just forget which one), and me, Dr. J.
Says so right here on my degree. But we lawyers are so doggone modest, we just don't like to use our titles.
Do you concur, Doctor? I concur, Doctor.
Posted by: J. Moses Browning at September 16, 2011 02:55 PM (c33MC)
Posted by: SarahW at September 16, 2011 03:25 PM (OoFwu)
Posted by: SarahW at September 16, 2011 03:29 PM (OoFwu)
Posted by: lauren at September 16, 2011 04:31 PM (VKD8C)
Bachmann, obviously. Palin, of course, has crabs. ("Deadliest Catch," yes?)
Posted by: filbert at September 16, 2011 03:49 PM (smvTK)
Posted by: Storm’s Heart AudioBook at September 16, 2011 05:44 PM (EYYAV)
You are confused because you appear to think everyone with Dr. for a title is a Doctor of Medcine.
Many kinds of Doctors out there that are not in medicine at all.
Michelle has jumped the shark with this and it's the end for her since she keeps doubling down on it.
Shows a lack of political savvy and her weakness by not having clear message of her own - only a lame attack. She's toast.
Posted by: Dadof3 at September 16, 2011 06:39 PM (56FyK)
Bachmann overspoke, just like jug-ears does daily, and nobody is impeaching him for his miserable performance, much less his lies. This is great, because it exposes a flaw. Everybody has them, and we need to know about them.
I'd prefer to have them tell us what they believe, not read some script about what we want to hear. Mitt has a record that includes Romneycare. That makes him less desirable as a candidate to me. I'm still paying for the last bout of compassionate conservativism. His faith is irrelevant.
The last well managed act we got didn't turn out too well, did it? We knew nothing of Obama, and got what we knew.
Posted by: MarkD at September 17, 2011 05:29 AM (iYBP2)
Yeah they are, they just aren't social conservatives.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 17, 2011 06:52 AM (r4wIV)
C'mon Ace since Perry said he was dead wrong on this issue , you defend it and Perry.
Those who think individual rights do not count are numbered in the ranks of RINO. One of the chief characteristics of RINOs is their endlessly lecturing the rest of us.
This negative focus on Bachman is too shrill even for a wombat 13 year old girl. One day we know you'll do something about Perry's role in Gore's 1988 presidential campaign or his open borders posture.
Till then this sort of thing is what I expect to see in the DU or LGF. Its sad and worse, childish.
Posted by: Molon Labe at September 17, 2011 05:41 PM (S7K8x)
Dr. Ace will now explain why he favors a politicians right to impose his decision on a family's healthcare choices starting with Perrycare, Romneycare and Obamacare.
Crickets. Well after all its what we expect from people who think Pawlenty was the supreme candidate for president.
Posted by: Molon Labe at September 17, 2011 05:46 PM (S7K8x)
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She better be careful, Perry is popular and she is only hurting herself with the silly attacks.
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at September 16, 2011 11:20 AM (uVlA4)