1 Doctor Who will be announcing if he's running tonight!

2 Too busy sporting a woody over the Huck announcement.

3 Neil Gaiman's a prick.

4

The TARDIS has always been my wife.

Now that Huck's out, he can stop stepping on my scarf.

 

5 Did...did you really type "game chamber" amen you meant game changer?

6 Bush branch working behind the curtains to clear the field for Daniels.  All there is to it folks.

7 In one of the earlier series Dr. Who did run for President of his planet.  It prevented him from being executed.

8 I haven't watched an episode of Doctor Who in twenty-five years.

9 Geek related: PSN outage is almost over. Mandatory update, forced to a password change page, but then it hangs again. Still, forward progress.

It's a geeky thing so it belongs here.

10 BBC America has 4 basic programs...

-An episode of one of Gordon Ramsey's 89 series.

-Top Gear

-Doctor Who

-That crappy show that claimed to be a Star Trek series.

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-That crappy show that claimed to be a Star Trek series.

Which is 'British' because it's got a British guy playing a Frenchman in it.

12 I am not familiar with Gaiman's work but so far this is an intriguing episode.  I have been enjoying all of these Moffat-series episodes with Matt Smith more than Davies' stuff. I can't wait to see where they will take it.

13 Gah! I have to wait til it goes up on Amazon because we don't get BBC America.

14 -That crappy show that claimed to be a Star Trek series.
TNG? TNG ;">.

BTW, what a crappy, boring ending to Stargate: Universe. If they think they're going to be able to come back from that and get people watching an in-theatre movie "real" ending, they're nuts. They might not even be able to get people up for a made-for-TV-movie "real" ending show. (V wasn't all that hot either.)

15 Smelly sock off. (And the alien daughter in V was much too old!)

16 You mean Gene Roddenberry's masturbatory communist Utopia in space?

Utopian yes, Communist no.

17 Roddenberry's Utopia wasn't coherent enough to be communist.  It was like asking a three-year-old to design society.

18 Or John Lennon.

19 Hey ace, who don't you like in The Preakness?

20 Star Trek's Federation was a Utopia, but Roddenberry never got around to really thinking about it beyond "it has all the stuff I think would be neat." So it's a future society which has given up war (except with, you know, everybody). Okay, war is bad, so fine.

But they also don't use money anymore. Huh? How does that work? Are the starships built by volunteers? Or is there such vast material wealth that they can just print out new starships? And if the latter case is true, then how can they ever be short of any material resource as a plot driver?

So they invented "credits" which are money without being money. Like pretty much all money that isn't barter. Which means the Federation does use money after all -- except that the producers et al keep insisting that they don't, because fuck if I know why.

It's also a society free of prejudice or bigotry, except that pretty much every storyline set in the Federation involves Vulcans or Tellarites or someone acting like complete racist assholes. Well, okay, points for trying and all that -- but then the racist-asshole-plagued Federation people go around talking about how great things are now instead of back in the bad old late 20th century. Huh?

They have gotten rid of God, though. Definitely. Except for the Vulcans, space Indians, and, well pretty much everyone other than white Anglos, who have "deep spiritual beliefs" and go on and on and fucking ON about them. Apparently the only God they've actually gotten rid of is the one the producers' and writers' parents tried to make them pray to when they were kids.

The poor fans have spent decades trying to figure out how the Federation actually works. The best explanation I've heard is that it's a society pretty much like what we've got now, except that the Federation government are a bunch of lying bastards who keep claiming they have this perfect secular post-economic utopia of peace and abundance.

21 I have a friend who isn't a major Trekkie but yearns for the "one world" idea of Star Trek. He can't explain how it would work in reality though. I've watched every Star Trek series they've done (yes even Enterprise)but I'm not one to try and defend or completely understand how the universe is supposed to really work in reality as put forth in films like First Contact. The basic idea seems to be that once we figure out that we're not alone in the universe we set aside our differences to then focus on the real dangers of those evil aliens out there. 

@22 There are some classic series episodes where they don't have problems mentioning God. But once 80's Trek came around they avoided it excpt in those instances you mention.

22 Hubby's not super happy at what he perceives as an X-Files-like turn to the show, but I'm digging it. The banter between the Doctor and the Tardis was pretty darned funny, IMO.

23 1 Doctor Who will be announcing if he's running tonight!

Posted by: Cherry π at May 14, 2011 09:08 PM (+sBB4)

But . . . the Doctor is always running, isn't he?

That was to me the best DW episode of the new era.  It shows what happens when a real SF author (Neil Gaiman) gets hold of a TV scifi show for an episode.  Should happen much, much, much more often.

And, hasn't the Doctor's relationship with the TARDIS always been a bit . . . erotic?  I mean, the central console, going up and down, up and down, up and down, and the weird screeching moan the Tardis gives off when it comes arrives . . . and "goes" as well . . .

24 Mike Huckabee's NOT running for President.

I was wondering what that strange drumming sound was...

25

I liked the episode, didn't know it was the one Neil Gaiman did, now I like it even more. Enjoyed seeing more of the TARDIS and the cameo by the old guts of the TARDIS. Thought it was a pretty clever plot idea.

Still don't like Matt Smith. But, I think Amy Pond is great so that makes up for it.

26 Great episiode, but scarcely a "game changer"

27 I'm pretty sure that Ace is wrong about the game changer being this episode.  Everything I heard is that it will be the 7th episode, with a giant cliffhanger leading to the 2nd half of the season in the fall.

28 Gaiman's American Gods is pretty terrific. I think that South Park episode Super Friends ripped it off quite well, but the original was funnier.

29 The thread is dead, Jim. Dead. I'm a doctor, not a miracle worker!

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22 ...

An excellent Star Trek commentary, from start to finish. I had noticed the money thing, and the whole idea of a world without it is just stupid. The whole thing reeked of political-correctness from Day One.

That being said, they at least had an episode in the original series that paid homage to the US Constitution.

I can't even stand TNG any more. The characters are too sanitized, Picard is a complete dictator, and Riker an arrogant jerk. The cross-species with Troi & Worf is a bit much. An ultra-sensitive paranormal type (which crosses over the line away from Science Fiction anyway, in my book) paired up with a domesticated but ruthless (which doesn't make sense, either) warrior? It's a soap opera of political-correctness, that has no other reason to exist.

God? All I can think is of is one of my favorite all-time lines: "What does God need with a starship?"

12 You mean Gene Roddenberry's masturbatory communist Utopia in space?

I'm with you. I see communistic undertones, but there are probably exceptions.

Hell, they even had a sort of Green episode with that Horta thing. Mustn't kill the last of a species, even if they have a record of killing humans. Notice how the industrialists are the evil villans, BTW (and why are they even there, if not to make money - that no longer exists?)

Oh, and who could forget the movie whose name I don't remember, because I call it "Star Trek 5(?): Save the Whales"? OMG.

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28 ... Still don't like Matt Smith. ...

It takes me a little while to warm up to a new one. With this guy, once I got used to him, I decided I actually liked him the best among the modern Doctors. He's not as good-looking and stuff as Tennent, and I decided that a uber-nerd really shouldn't be good-looking, and should have more quirky mannerisms, like Smith. But at this point, it's starting to seem like too much - a bit too spastic.

It was a great episode. I wonder if maybe they couldn't have gone further with the TARDIS in human form, it's relationship with the Doctor being the longest-running and most important relationship in the series. Seemed like they only spoke a few minutes.

BTW, I noticed that the phrase the TARDIS supposedly had repeated had the word "river" in it - probably a reference to River Song.

32 I still think casting Matt Smith as the Doctor has turned out to be little more than a somewhat interesting mistake.  He simply isn't mature enough to make it work.  That's not a knock on him, mind you.  I believe he's a fine actor.  I just don't think he's got enough going on inside him to fill out the role of the Doctor (who, let's face it, is largely a big blank).

I mean I'm sure he's got all the requisite lefty passions that any right-thinking actor must have nowadays, but we all know that those rarely go deeper than an inch.  And what else does the guy appear to have?  Not much, as far as I can see.

I wish they'd gone with an older actor, or even just someone a few years older.

33 And one of the problems that keeps creeping up with Matt Smith is that he simply doesn't have any sexual charisma whatsoever.

That would be fine, especially for the Doctor, but then they have to stop putting him in scenarios that require an actor with some testosterone.  Every time they put him in even a mildly romantic situation (and they seem to keep doing that a great deal), it looks ridiculous.

34 Now, having bitched about the show in two comments, I do want to admit that I thought tonight's episode was largely outstanding, probably the best Matt Smith episode so far (I haven't seen the Christmas episode yet, though), and although it's almost certainly impossible, I'd love to see Neil Gaiman take over once Steven Moffat finishes his run.

35 I thought the episode was quite smashing.  It was fun, serious, and it was smartly written.  Who wants Gaiman to take over from Moffat, heck I am with the crew who want Neil to be the Doctor.

36 And one of the problems that keeps creeping up with Matt Smith is that he simply doesn't have any sexual charisma whatsoever.

Posted by: Kensington at May 14, 2011 11:52 PM

Yeah, not like Tom Baker.

37 I really don't think that Doctor Who is Doctor Who anymore.  Its morphed into the Amy Pond show (in which her legs are supporting characters in their own right.)

That girl is so hot its frightening.  Long red hair, legs that go on for miles, and that faint Scottish intonation are simply intoxicating. 

38 Scotty! More power to the shields--the spammers are getting in!

39 Watch out for dallecks and cybermen

40 rdbrewer, are you kidding?  For one thing, back when Tom Baker was playing the Doctor, the show never tried to make him into a sex symbol.

But for another, Baker was more impressive as one than Smith is.

41 Look out for Klingons hanging around Uranus!

42 I'm not that familiar with Gaiman's work in prose, but I thought the movies he's done (Mirrormask and Coraline) were kind of mediocre and pretty much alike.

43

I liked the episode a LOT. This season has been a bit low-keyed compared to the previous one, but it is far better television than most of the stuff out there on the air today.

Idris was a hot personification of the TARDIS. I could see why the Doctor was so turned on. My only regret about the whole episode was that I was kinda looking for a bit of fan wankery in the form of Rory and Amy witnessing either an older console room or imagery of the 10th Doctor regenerating into the 11th one.

And yes, the Confidential was not bad at all either. ;-)

44 "I'm not that familiar with Gaiman's work in prose, but I thought the movies he's done (Mirrormask and Coraline) were kind of mediocre and pretty much alike."

The Sandman (comic book) is probably the best thing Gaiman has ever done, and if you're interested in reading it, most libraries have all ten volumes in stock.

45 It after seeing the actress who played Idris, I realized the T in TARDIS stands for something entirely different. Talent. Why, what did you think?

46 Idris is a male Welsh name. In fact, the name of a villainous king in Welsh mythology and legend. And I'm sure Neil Gaiman knows that, so WTF???

Dear BBC, Quit creeping me out with your creepy alternate universe Doctor Who. Feel free to wake up the Seventh Doctor from his creepy bad dream, any time now.

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