November 28, 2011

Does Obama Unconsciously Want To Lose?
— Ace

Our listless, hapless, distracted, depressed president might be looking for a soft bit of canvas to flop on.

There are only two ways to look at the Obama re-election campaign right now: Either the upstart candidate who stunned the world when he defeated the Clinton machine to capture the Democratic nomination three years ago has lost every bit of that massive mojo, or the bruised and battered president, after three years in office, just doesnÂ’t want another spin in the Oval Office.

How else to explain the nonstop missteps, the stammering and stuttering campaign, not to mention the brazen attacks on American voters, who, he has said, have “fallen behind,” lost their “ambition and imagination,” gotten “lazy” and “a bit soft” - this is a guy seeking the support of America?!

Curl has a good point about Obama's future, if he won:

He knows that over the next four years, with automatic budget cuts set to take effect and the American peopleÂ’s rising ire over the profligate spending in Washington, heÂ’s going to have no money to redistribute to the masses.

So, why bother? ItÂ’s going to get worse before it gets better. Who needs it? Why preside over a government that, instead of giving everything to everybody free, takes it all away, cuts so deeply that nearly every American will be affected? Especially if you think Americans are lazy, lack ambition - theyÂ’ll never rise to the challenge, so why not just bail?

That's an interesting point -- Obama likes playing the redistributionist hero. He's unhappy because he can't play that role now.

Would he be able to play that role in 2013 and 2014, if he won?

There is a big reason Obama would like to hang on: Vindication. Just as he thought the recovery would be automatic in 2009, freeing him up to pursue whatever political agenda he liked, trusting that the Recovery Fairy would sprinkle some expansion pixie dust on America and fix everything, I think he still believes that it's coming. Just a little delayed. And it will be a big recovery, because of his policies, not despite them.

So he could be imagining that if he can just get through this brief, half-decade-long rough patch, the days where he gets to play Liberal Hero again are just around the corner.

Would he be able to spend like gangbusters? Not as much, but the Republicans couldn't do much to stop him when he was unpopular; if the economy recovered, and he was back to being on the news everyday to talk about how awesome he is, they'd be able to restrain him even less.

So I don't know about this claim. Interesting, but I can see him genuinely holding out hope that his big ObamaRecovery is just lost in the mail, but will get here any day now.

Posted by: Ace at 07:32 AM | Comments (205)
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1 let him eat his waffle

Posted by: phoenixgirl, still for perry at November 28, 2011 07:33 AM (SH3gZ)

2 He'd pretty much have to be delusional to believe that scenario, Ace.

Which means it's probably pretty accurate...

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3 And eat your damn peas.

Posted by: Obammy at November 28, 2011 07:35 AM (2okAn)

4 Or if you're cynical enough to believe he deliberately wants to destroy America, as I do, well then another four years to do it in is just dandy.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at November 28, 2011 07:36 AM (MyByM)

5 There is NO big recovery coming.  If obooboo does not know that, he is being told it by those who know.

Posted by: M. Murcek at November 28, 2011 07:38 AM (ToZXn)

6 If you consider him a bewildered puppet who doesn't know what's going on or what to do next, all is explained. The puppet master put him down for a second so he's limp and bewildered, but the moment his handler picks up the strings again and puts on the show for the rubes, why Barky the SCOAMF will be his old infinitely flexible self again.

Posted by: joncelli at November 28, 2011 07:39 AM (RD7QR)

7
In Obama's mind, being a two-term president who doesn't look like those 'other guys on the dollar bills' is a big thumb in the eye to America.

That's all Obama wants, after all.

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 28, 2011 07:39 AM (sqkOB)

8 I hope someone figures out why he is turning yellow-green. Seriously, what is the deal with his coloring? He appears physically ill (we know he is mental). In recent photos his eyes look strange as well (drugged).

Posted by: ChristyBlinky at November 28, 2011 07:39 AM (baL2B)

9 No. 

Purge those sorts of thoughts from your mind, ace.  It's counter-productive and wish-casting. 

The second term will be one unending party.  Why would he want to give up the gig then? 

Posted by: Y-not at November 28, 2011 07:40 AM (5H6zj)

10 This is the first time he's ever had to work in his life.  And he isn't up to it.

Posted by: al-Cicero, Tea Party Jihadist at November 28, 2011 07:40 AM (yQwq5)

11 8 I hope someone figures out why he is turning yellow-green. Seriously, what is the deal with his coloring? He appears physically ill (we know he is mental). In recent photos his eyes look strange as well (drugged). Posted by: ChristyBlinky at November 28, 2011 11:39 AM (baL2B) The drugs and the parties are catching up with him. Seriously, the guy looks like a late-stage heroin addict.

Posted by: joncelli at November 28, 2011 07:40 AM (RD7QR)

12
Let's boil it down right now and say it.

Obama's presidency is a one big Fuck You to the founding of the United States.
Obama hates everything this nation stands for and hates that it exists.

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 28, 2011 07:40 AM (sqkOB)

13 There are always some who have more than others. So, the redistributionist fantasy will live on for eternity, whether in a post-industrial Nation Below Canada, or in a Mad Max wasteland. At any rate, Dick Soetero doesn't need to only steal from Peter to pay Paul. There is a big, noisy printing press at the Fed that he can shove into overdrive if necessary. Dick Soetero is just sad that his subjects are so unworthy of his greatness.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at November 28, 2011 07:41 AM (AZGON)

14 He will be simultaneously regarded as the most incompetent and most
destructive President in this nations history. That's a neat two-fer!

Posted by: mclovin at November 28, 2011 07:41 AM (j0IcY)

15 ...and puts on the show for the rubes, why Barky the SCOAMF will be his old infinitely flexible self again. That is called "campaign mode," and Dick still loves that dance. This coming presidential campaign will be the ugliest thing since the mirror met Helen Thomas.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at November 28, 2011 07:42 AM (AZGON)

16 The answer will come over the next 11 months.  He might want to win but his economic education is so entirely bass ackwards that every action leading up to the election will be a continuation of the usual economic destruction.

Posted by: Bob Saget at November 28, 2011 07:43 AM (SDkq3)

17 I'm not trying to destroy the economy. It's those tearrorists next to me!

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at November 28, 2011 07:43 AM (ggRof)

18
Second look at Ron Zook?

Posted by: Soothie has a bad feeling about this at November 28, 2011 07:43 AM (sqkOB)

19 I'm sorry to go O/T, but this headline is too funny to dump on a dead thread:

Professor Pervert Purveys Pedia Porn on Plane

Posted by: Y-not at November 28, 2011 07:43 AM (5H6zj)

20 What's the downside for him to lose?

The media will cover for him regardless. He'll be seen as the victim that was held hostage by a say-no-do-nothing Congress that prohibited "all the good" he wanted to accomplish (pay no attention to his first two years). He can continue to collect his speaking fees and make his millions; all the while rabble rousing the OWS goons.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at November 28, 2011 07:43 AM (pLTLS)

21
Newt just challenged Obama's daughters to an essay-writing contest.

Posted by: Soothie has a bad feeling about this at November 28, 2011 07:44 AM (sqkOB)

22 Maybe next time we can have, oh, I dunno, maybe an American as President of the United States.

And bugger off, 52 percenters.

Posted by: al-Cicero, Tea Party Jihadist at November 28, 2011 07:44 AM (yQwq5)

23 There are only two ways to look at the Obama re-election campaign right now:

There's a third way to look at it - Barky being an incompetent lackwit, without a lick of executive experience, or experience at any real job whatsoever, reaping the harvest of his fecklessness.

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 28, 2011 07:44 AM (N+nDK)

24 So does this mean that whole country music thing was a put-on?

Posted by: Fritz at November 28, 2011 07:44 AM (/ZZCn)

25

Either the upstart candidate who stunned the world when he defeated the Clinton machine

Is swinging the super-delegates considered "defeat[ing] Clinton".

Barry never won any actual primary elections.  He won the caucuses and that was about it. 

Posted by: really ... at November 28, 2011 07:45 AM (meyVd)

26 I've been a leader. And let me tell you, this man Obama is a leader. Plus, we both like to lick windows.

Posted by: Colin Powell at November 28, 2011 07:46 AM (AZGON)

27
btw, serious question, when did the short-form word porn become acceptable to use in news reports?

anyone notice this? in the last year or two porn is used regularly instead of pornography in news reports.

Posted by: Soothie has a bad feeling about this at November 28, 2011 07:46 AM (sqkOB)

28 The drugs and the parties are catching up with him. Seriously, the guy looks like a late-stage heroin addict.

Posted by: joncelli at November 28, 2011 11:40 AM (R

I noticed that in a recent picture of him & Michelle at a basketball game.  He looks awful and it is scary to think of the power at this man's fingertips.  It is normal for every president to "age" due to the rigors of office - but somethings amiss with Obama...

Posted by: Cheri at November 28, 2011 07:46 AM (G+Wff)

29 How else to explain the nonstop missteps, the stammering and stuttering campaign, not to mention the brazen attacks on American voters, who, he has said, have “fallen behind,” lost their “ambition and imagination,” gotten “lazy” and “a bit soft” - this is a guy seeking the support of America?!

Maybe he is just a stupid asshole (pretty easy to explain actually)

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at November 28, 2011 07:46 AM (pdRb1)

30 23 There are only two ways to look at the Obama re-election campaign right now: There's a third way to look at it - Barky being an incompetent lackwit, without a lick of executive experience, or experience at any real job whatsoever, reaping the harvest of his fecklessness. Posted by: Waterhouse at November 28, 2011 11:44 AM (N+nDK) That's certainly the simplest explanation, which is why the historians will run the other direction and find the most convoluted explanation for Bambi's failures that could possibly be imagined.

Posted by: joncelli at November 28, 2011 07:47 AM (RD7QR)

31 Amerikkka is my shovel-ready project for Poli-Sci class.

Posted by: Nikita Obama at November 28, 2011 07:47 AM (KOQBP)

32 How else to explain the nonstop missteps, the stammering and stuttering campaign, not to mention the brazen attacks on American voters Ummmm... because he hates us unless we adoring him and doing everything his awful way.

Posted by: IreneFingIrene at November 28, 2011 07:47 AM (JNqU9)

33 Seriously, the guy looks like a late-stage heroin addict.

I've been avoiding the TV, but if he looked like an actor is makeup for a zombie movie I'd expect Biden would be in charge now.

Posted by: Bob Saget at November 28, 2011 07:48 AM (SDkq3)

34 Is swinging the super-delegates considered "defeat[ing] Clinton". What this really tells us is that Cankles was in fact a miserable and incompetent campaigner who expected the nomination to be handed over on a sterling tray. Oh, and Pat Caddell is a clown.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at November 28, 2011 07:48 AM (AZGON)

35 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at November 28, 2011 07:48 AM (8y9MW)

36 So he could be imagining that if he can just get through this brief, half-decade-long rough patch FDR would have needed six terms to see him thru his little patch, and that was in an America that had manufacturing.

Posted by: t-bird at November 28, 2011 07:48 AM (FcR7P)

37

Could someone please explain how Obama could spend like gangbusters with GOP control of both houses? 

I'm thinking the Constitution still applies...? Crazy, I know. 

Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at November 28, 2011 07:48 AM (SCcgT)

38 What happens is probably dependent upon what others say about him. If the media makes love, and the leftists forgive, he might fall back in love with himself. Can't say that I have a preference for either personality.

Posted by: vika ut sig at November 28, 2011 07:48 AM (gvlTU)

39 Obama is a stammering and stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: Jimmuy at November 28, 2011 07:49 AM (fzG4W)

40

correction: Pat Cadell is a clownfucker.

Posted by: Soothie has a bad feeling about this at November 28, 2011 07:49 AM (sqkOB)

41 O/T - from Gateway;

After Demanding Refund From City, Richmond Tea Party Gets Letter – “You’re Being Audited”

In late October the Richmond Tea Party sent a letter to city officials demanding a refund for the $10,000 the group spent on permits, portable toilets, police presence and emergency personnel for three rallies held at same plaza where the Occupy Richmond squatters set up their camp. Now the tea party is being audited.

Posted by: kbdabear at November 28, 2011 07:50 AM (Y+DPZ)

42

Could someone please explain how Obama could spend like gangbusters with GOP control of both houses?


hahahahahaha!

How indeed!

hahaahaahahahaha!

Posted by: Soothie has a bad feeling about this at November 28, 2011 07:50 AM (sqkOB)

43 Right..... he subconsciously wants to lose, thats why he is campaigning non-stop. He has been considered smart by his liberal peers his whole adult life for smugly disparaging "bitter clinger type americans" and he is just not smart enough to suppress that attitude all the time now that it can hurt him and it leaks into open mikes occasionally. I expect he thinks that regardless of current grousing about him at least 50%+1 will vote for him over whichever candidate the GOP nominates and the MarxSpewMedia works to destroy for their marxist hero. I just *hope* that the MSM has revealed itself enough that the country votes the commie dems out of the senate majority and sends the commie in chief packing.

Posted by: Palerider at November 28, 2011 07:51 AM (cQZV0)

44 37 Could someone please explain how Obama could spend like gangbusters with GOP control of both houses? I'm thinking the Constitution still applies...? Crazy, I know. Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at November 28, 2011 11:48 AM (SCcgT) Three words: Executive Order.

Posted by: joncelli at November 28, 2011 07:51 AM (RD7QR)

45

Nope.... writer is incorrect... Obama has enough Hubris that although he will 'throw' the election, it will be subconscious... so it can play into a 'victim' attitude.

Note the divisive type of campaign he is setting up to run... putting the White Working class against all the other groups... he will then play the 'I was not reelcted due to Racism' card...

It will also put a Repub in office for the upcoming economic meltdown... because the systemic problems that brought on the 2008 problems, have not been fixed... they've just put us further in debt by propping up failed institutions... so they would fail on somone elses watch.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 28, 2011 07:52 AM (NtXW4)

46
speaking of being audited...

We've all heard the reports of OWS raking over half a million dollars.

Can anyone say....tax evasion?

Posted by: Soothie has a bad feeling about this at November 28, 2011 07:52 AM (sqkOB)

47
Unless OWS is a registered tax-exempt organization, which it is not, as far I know, their income needs to be accounted for an taxed, ya?

Posted by: Soothie has a bad feeling about this at November 28, 2011 07:53 AM (sqkOB)

48 Don't see how he can possibly run with all these states now requiring he produce a birth certificate in order to get on the ballot. So far he's released two jpg's on the internet. When he has to produce the actual non-photoshopped document he will definitely have a problem.

Posted by: Jimmah at November 28, 2011 07:53 AM (kicUD)

49 How else to explain the nonstop missteps, the stammering and stuttering campaign, not to mention the brazen attacks on American voters, who, he has said, have “fallen behind,” lost their “ambition and imagination,” gotten “lazy” and “a bit soft”

Explanation: He's a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure

Posted by: kbdabear at November 28, 2011 07:53 AM (Y+DPZ)

50 No way. Obama is too arrogant and self-centered to not care about running again. This is a man who thinks his own shit doesn't stink.  

Posted by: The terrorist Hobbit formerly known as Donna at November 28, 2011 07:54 AM (X4EXc)

51 "If the economy recovered"



lol, good one Ace, you funny.

Posted by: Unclefacts Out Of Commenting Retirement Just For This One Thing at November 28, 2011 07:54 AM (6IReR)

52 Under estimate these commies at your own peril. 

These guys will NEVER give up the power until we TAKE it away from them.

What would they do without their government jobs?

They have no employable skills.

Posted by: Billy Bob, the guy who drinks in SC at November 28, 2011 07:54 AM (vSiVD)

53 Completely off topic....

I looove cyber-Monday. I found the best deals. Gonna make some people pretty stinking happy on Christmas morning. Pretty excited about that.

Of course Bawney's news is still the news to beat today.


Posted by: laceyunderalls at November 28, 2011 07:55 AM (pLTLS)

54 37

Could someone please explain how Obama could spend like gangbusters with GOP control of both houses? 

I'm thinking the Constitution still applies...? Crazy, I know. 


Funny you should ask that. We will stop the Ones spending just as soon as we find our spine. Now where did I put that thing?

Posted by: Bohner/McConnnel at November 28, 2011 07:55 AM (GAJm6)

55 He's not an ideologist, he's an egoist.

He won't give up, he will run, win or lose it doesn't matter, stepping down in the hopes of preserving ideology doesn't matter since that would be an admission of his own failings.

If he were an ideologist, he would start playing the race card immediately, blaming republicans for everything and saying that maybe the "hard right" cuz everyone is "hard right" that doesn't vote for him, will be more willing to negotiate with someone who looks more like them.

But he's not an ideologist, he's and opportunistic egoist, so he will stay on.

Posted by: Douglas at November 28, 2011 07:55 AM (YKOnu)

56 He knows it may hurt him with voters but he's also believes it to be Allah's honest truth and its his duty to put his fucking scumbag peasents some knowledge.

Posted by: IreneFingIrene at November 28, 2011 07:55 AM (JNqU9)

57 29 How else to explain the nonstop missteps, the stammering and stuttering campaign, not to mention the brazen attacks on American voters, who, he has said, have “fallen behind,” lost their “ambition and imagination,” gotten “lazy” and “a bit soft” - this is a guy seeking the support of America?!

Maybe he is just a stupid asshole (pretty easy to explain actually)
 The amazing part is how long it took for some people (ahem, MSM, ahem) to actually open their eyes and finally see that. A lot of us knew that all along.  

Posted by: Roy at November 28, 2011 07:56 AM (VndSC)

58 Of course Bawney's news is still the news to beat today.


Posted by: laceyunderalls at November 28, 2011 11:55 AM (pLTLS)

One trait of a succesful Thief, is to know when to start the 'Getaway'...

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 28, 2011 07:56 AM (NtXW4)

59 I've thought of this before, that he wants to lose (or he has people inside working against him etc). One thing, he and his wife seem to enjoy the good life. How much would one have to have to be able to live as well as they do, outside the WH? LARGE airplane(s), numerous "servants," security, seemingly unlimited travel and other fringe benefits. One would have to be awfully rich ...

Posted by: Baldy at November 28, 2011 07:58 AM (Ua1ps)

60 "He should step aside,” (Caddell and Schoen) wrote, “for the one candidate who would become, by acclamation, the nominee of the Democratic Party: Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.” AH HAHAHAHAHAHAHA Go listen to Pat Spanking Caddell on the latest Ricochet podcast. Apart from being a link whore who claims his real business in no longer politics (!), he explicitly says that in his fantasy scenario he knows full well Dick would never step aside. His ridiculous scenario is intented to "shake up" the Demotarded Party political machine. He claims it could happen if a bunch of New Hampshire Demotard primary voters were herded up by a Demotard fat cat to do a massive write-in campaign for Cankles. That's how it would work. He omits to mention that if his mother had wheels she would be a car as well as a whore. This Caddell clown wrote that piece of gauzy wishcasting to generate page hits and boost his profile, not to shed light or offer serious political advice. He openly boasted of the page views his article received on the WSJ. Less fantasy please, more realism. Dick is going to be tough to beat. Winston Wolfe is watching us.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at November 28, 2011 07:58 AM (AZGON)

61
Disclaimer: Just because I quote your comment, it doesn't mean I'm addressing you specifically.

I know this internet-comment-thing is new and difficult for some people but try not to take everything you read as a direct comment at you.


Posted by: Soothie has a bad feeling about this at November 28, 2011 07:59 AM (sqkOB)

62 But he's not an ideologist, he's and opportunistic egoist, so he will stay on.

Posted by: Douglas at November 28, 2011 11:55 AM (YKOnu)

and thus my theory... that he will, for his own ego, have to create someone to blame when he fails...

Thus, the tactic of piss'n on the White Working class, while courting the minorities...

I bet this will be the most blatantly Class Warfare / Racial Warfare campaign ever run. 

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 28, 2011 07:59 AM (NtXW4)

63 (still in love with "George Orwell what knows" . . .)

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 28, 2011 08:00 AM (SB0V2)

64 Why does everyone, even here, assume that he wants the economy to recover? A redistributionist, centrally planned economy needs high unemployment and muted investment. How else to replace hundreds of millions of individual actors with one prime mover? He would know that, I think.

Posted by: Gabriel Syme at November 28, 2011 08:00 AM (g84Si)

65

I have often entertained the theory that Barack Obama was simply David Axelrod's joke on America.  Axelrod is a career PR guy and I think he wanted to see if he really could get *anyone* elected President.  He test-drove all of the 2008 themes with Deval Patrick in Massachusetts in 2007, so he knew it would all work. 

All Obama had to do was make the speeches and trot out Michelle and the girls.  Ax told him not to worry, Valerie Jarrett would be the one actually running everything while he and Michelle got the swag. 

Posted by: rockmom at November 28, 2011 08:00 AM (qE3AR)

66 No. He doesn't want to lose. But he does expect it to be handed to him like it was last time. Fear of losing isn't what motivates him. It's fear of having the image he's created destroyed. Preserving his ego is job one for this narcissistic cocksucker. If and when he does lose, he'll already have the blame worked out, and none of it will be for him. He's already laying the groundwork with this "lazy" bullshit. If he loses, he still maintains his flawless image in his mind. After all, it wasn't HIS fault - it was his incompetent team and the ungrateful voters.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at November 28, 2011 08:00 AM (vzFJV)

67 You can't lose, if you don't play!

I think he'll bail out of the race very close to ( before, during or after ) the Dem convention.  Partly to screw over his supporters for not supporting him enough or for turning their back on him.  OWS was the last ditch effort of these loons and it went nowhere.  The lack of any activity from them on Black Friday was the silence after the last gasp.

I think Obama really believed being president was going to be easy.

Posted by: Dang at November 28, 2011 08:00 AM (BbX1b)

68
Obama will demonstrate that capitalism and Western/American values are a failure even if he has to employ every left wing trick in order to destroy the United States of America.

That's what the Obama presidency is all about.

Posted by: Soothie has a bad feeling about this at November 28, 2011 08:01 AM (sqkOB)

69

Posted by: Baldy at November 28, 2011 11:58 AM (Ua1ps)

He is rich... and once out of Office, will be able to hit the Golf Links, and Lecture circuit, to make big bucks.

 

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 28, 2011 08:02 AM (NtXW4)

70 Preserving his ego is job one for this narcissistic cocksucker. If and when he does lose, he'll already have the blame worked out, and none of it will be for him. We will do our patriotic duty in this regard and help our President in his struggle with racism disguised as political opposition.

Posted by: The MFM at November 28, 2011 08:02 AM (AZGON)

71 Posted by: Empire of Jeff

Exactamundo, EoJ.

But he does expect it to be handed to him like it was last time

No wonder he's on par with the Occupy Freaks. The entitlement mentality is strong with that one.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at November 28, 2011 08:03 AM (pLTLS)

72 45, three letters: F E D

Posted by: Jean at November 28, 2011 08:03 AM (WkuV6)

73 Come on guys, we're getting shrimp!

Posted by: King Barry XV at November 28, 2011 08:03 AM (P1nni)

74 It is truly the ends of days......

Kate Hicks Kal Penn and Meghan McCain are sitting side by side on MSNBC giving political analysis. What is wrong with the world?

Posted by: laceyunderalls at November 28, 2011 08:04 AM (pLTLS)

75

I spent four years in the White House and all I got was a higher handicap.

 

 

Posted by: Barak O'teetime at November 28, 2011 08:04 AM (8ieXv)

76 Barack 0bama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: logprof at November 28, 2011 08:04 AM (P1nni)

77 Oh and in case you haven't seen Harold & Kumar, the kid working 100 feet from the Oval had a scene in his first stoner movie where he has a sex scene with an oversized bag of weed. Just putting that out there.....

Posted by: laceyunderalls at November 28, 2011 08:05 AM (pLTLS)

78 After all, it wasn't HIS fault - it was his incompetent team and the ungrateful voters.

But the missing GDP - that's where I had them! They laughed at me and made jokes but I proved beyond a shadow of doubt, with geometric logic, that a duplicate key to the economy did exist, and I'd have produced that key if they hadn't pulled me out of office.

Posted by: Captain Barack Queeg at November 28, 2011 08:05 AM (N+nDK)

79 Neither party should want to win 2012.  Whichever party wins the White House in 2012 is in for a world of hurt.  It's going to be a HARD time.  The final year (2016) is going to see an explosion of people qualifying for Social Security, too, and it is just about too late to deal with that.


Posted by: crosspatch at November 28, 2011 08:05 AM (ZbLJZ)

80 three letters: F E D It's a pity all that new money Bernanke will print for me are just numbers in a ledger. I'm thinking I would look amazing on a special commemorative three-dollar bill.

Posted by: B. Hussein Obama at November 28, 2011 08:06 AM (AZGON)

81 kinda OT Watched Brian Lamb interview some Scottish author last night on cspan. The author explained that he had just driven across Texas, Louisiana, and Mississippi and had interacted with people. He concluded that this country "isn't as united as we thought" and that people, especially in west Texas, truly consider themselves apart from the assholes (my word) in Washington, D.C. Well, duh. I swear these elite-types need to get out more.

Posted by: Dave at November 28, 2011 08:06 AM (Xm1aB)

82 48
Unless OWS is a registered tax-exempt organization, which it is not, as far I know, their income needs to be accounted for an taxed, ya?
Posted by: Soothie has a bad feeling about this at November 28, 2011 11:53 AM

They still have to follow 501(c)3 guidelines, and can be audited. But they won't be until the Occutards are too big a liability for Democrats

If NYC still had a mayor, that $600K the Zucconistas have in the bank would have a lien on it to pay back the city. City auditors would also ask how a part time tattoo artist got "his own money" to stay in a $700 per night hotel room and if that's a violation of tax exemptions.

If NYC still had a mayor that is ...

Posted by: kbdabear at November 28, 2011 08:07 AM (Y+DPZ)

83 Kate Hicks Kal Penn and Meghan McCain are sitting side by side on MSNBC giving political analysis forming a human centipede.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at November 28, 2011 08:07 AM (AZGON)

84 19 I'm sorry to go O/T, but this headline is too funny to dump on a dead thread:

Professor Pervert Purveys Pedia Porn on Plane

Posted by: Y-not at November 28, 2011 11:43 AM (5H6zj)


--I give that headline a B+ on the Tabloid Scale.

The ideal verbiage would be "Perv Prof Purveys Ped Porn on Plane."

Monosyllables are key.

Posted by: logprof at November 28, 2011 08:08 AM (P1nni)

85 He's a lazy punk who never worked hard a day in his life.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at November 28, 2011 08:09 AM (iAUf+)

86

Posted by: crosspatch at November 28, 2011 12:05 PM (ZbLJZ)

Right and not only those domestic head-aches await the next President, but think of the massive bill for all the foreign-policy fuckups that'll need paid come post 2012.  Afghanistan/Pakistan is a CF all in itself and that assumes that Iran isn't a de-facto nuclear power amongst other things...

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at November 28, 2011 08:09 AM (9hSKh)

87 I swear these elite-types need to get out more. Posted by: Dave at November 28, 2011 12:06 PM (Xm1aB) The media elites like to pull these "Rednecks in the Mist" stunts every now and then, wherein they interact with the knuckledraggers in their native environment. Then the elitist goes back to NYC/DC/London and writes a headscratcher about the noble but ignorant savages.

Posted by: joncelli at November 28, 2011 08:10 AM (RD7QR)

88 Kate Hicks Kal Penn and Meghan McCain are sitting side by side on MSNBC giving political analysis. What is wrong with the world?
Posted by: laceyunderalls at November 28, 2011 12:04 PM

#Meghan McCain @Kal Penn - You gonna eat that?

Posted by: Meghan McCain at November 28, 2011 08:11 AM (Y+DPZ)

89 The media elites like to pull these "Rednecks in the Mist" stunts What's The Matter With Kansas?

Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at November 28, 2011 08:11 AM (AZGON)

90

#68 Reminds me of a line I saw a while back, can't remember who wrote it, after a flurry of "we're just not good enough for him" articles:

Obama is a GREAT leader; we are just terrible followers.

This is what all of his elitist followers believe, and they believe it fervently. 

Posted by: rockmom at November 28, 2011 08:13 AM (NYnoe)

91 91 The media elites like to pull these "Rednecks in the Mist" stunts

What's The Matter With Kansas? Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at November 28, 2011 12:11 PM

We didn't send Thomas Frank back to NY with his underwear over his head, that's what's wrong with us

Posted by: Kansas at November 28, 2011 08:13 AM (Y+DPZ)

92 Is there a day he has been President he hasn't sucked cock? I even count the day WE killed bin Ladin cause of his " I I I I I " press conference.

Posted by: Mr Pink at November 28, 2011 08:14 AM (Kf1WI)

93 While Rush has been off his game lately, he made a good observation: how the media is praising all this Consumerism taking place on Black Friday... yet we have as our topic today a WaTimes piece with this quote from Teleprompter Jesus: “Over the last decade, we became a country that relied too much on what we bought and consumed.” - President* Obama, Nov. 19, 2011 *a grave error hopefully to be corrected

Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at November 28, 2011 08:14 AM (AZGON)

94

President Obama has never been in a position where he has been seriously evaluated on something that he has produced. The fact that the entire country is evaluating him now and deciding that he's a failure must be quite a shock to him.

And, since Democrats controled Congress for most of his term, he has no one to blame except the American people. Thus, we're lazy. He proved us with the tools, we just weren't up to the task.

Posted by: 29Victor at November 28, 2011 08:15 AM (ES9R7)

95 I think it is likely the SCOAMF has had an epiphany.  From being in the position of believing that he and his ilk were finally those who were the one's they had been waiting for - those finally smart enough to successfully implement socialism, he's seen that socialism fails for a very good reason - human nature.  He's seen that socialism and its variants, has been the reason for the mess the west finds itself in. 
He also sees that it really isn't all that bad being a one percenter, no matter how many backs of the 99% he has to stand on to be there.

How revealing reality must be to those who see it finally for the first time.

Welcome to the party, pal!

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at November 28, 2011 08:15 AM (jx2j9)

96
Obama is a guy who won a popularity contest and the award was a 4 year stay at the White House and control of the federal government.

Obama is the celebrity-contestant president. He's the guy who happened to buy the right cereal box.

Posted by: Soothie has a bad feeling about this at November 28, 2011 08:15 AM (sqkOB)

97 Is there a day he has been President he hasn't sucked cock? I even count the day WE killed bin Ladin cause of his " I I I I I " press conference. You must admit our historic President is a bit of a medical miracle as well: the first President limber enough to suck his own penis.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at November 28, 2011 08:15 AM (AZGON)

98 The media elites like to pull these "Rednecks in the Mist" stunts

They all want to be me at one time or another. Drop acid and get the living shit beat out of you by the Hells Angels, then you can start pretending to be me

Posted by: Hunter Thompson at November 28, 2011 08:15 AM (Y+DPZ)

99 66 Why does everyone, even here, assume that he wants the economy to recover? A redistributionist, centrally planned economy needs high unemployment and muted investment. How else to replace hundreds of millions of individual actors with one prime mover? He would know that, I think.

Posted by: Gabriel Syme at November 28, 2011 12:00 PM (g84Si)


--I agree: His turning down Xcel's potential billions in FDI proves he put ideology over the well-being of the country, even if it could benefit him politically.

Posted by: logprof at November 28, 2011 08:16 AM (P1nni)

100 #95, right, and the media still love to flog the meme that after 9/11 George Bush "told us all to go shopping" instead of nobly asking us to "sacrifice" (i.e. cough up a shitload more in taxes)

Posted by: rockmom at November 28, 2011 08:16 AM (NYnoe)

101 And it will be a big recovery, because of his policies, not despite them. Remember the booming Soviet economy? Me neither.

Posted by: t-bird at November 28, 2011 08:16 AM (FcR7P)

102

I have often entertained the theory that Barack Obama was simply David Axelrod's joke on America.  Axelrod is a career PR guy and I think he wanted to see if he really could get *anyone* elected President.  He test-drove all of the 2008 themes with Deval Patrick in Massachusetts in 2007, so he knew it would all work. 

All Obama had to do was make the speeches and trot out Michelle and the girls.  Ax told him not to worry, Valerie Jarrett would be the one actually running everything while he and Michelle got the swag. 

Posted by: rockmom at November 28, 2011 12:00 PM (qE3AR)


--Remember on Cheers when Frazier ran Woody for City Council to prove something similar, using voters as lab rats?

Posted by: logprof at November 28, 2011 08:17 AM (P1nni)

103 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure! 

He certainly does not look healthy.  I heard a rumor that he's gotten very thin, and that somehow they "bulk up" his suits when he appears on TV.  Oh, the strain of being PINO and all those trips on the taxpayer dime and the golfing. 

After he's ousted next January, maybe some brave soul will come out with the truth about the man, not the knee-pad MSM knob-gobbler version of the truth. 

Posted by: Theresa at November 28, 2011 08:17 AM (nAvCW)

104

Let's nominate Newtie! That'll make Obama feel better.

Posted by: Cricket at November 28, 2011 08:18 AM (DrC22)

105
When you say (and invoke policies to ensure the same) things like "there comes a point where you've made enough money" and "you consume too much," there is no hope for a recovery.




Posted by: Soothie has a bad feeling about this at November 28, 2011 08:19 AM (sqkOB)

106 OWS was the last ditch effort of these loons and it went nowhere.  The lack of any activity from them on Black Friday was the silence after the last gasp.

Posted by: Dang at November 28, 2011 12:00 PM

There was plenty of activity from them. They made clowns of themselves, consumers shrugged them off or condescended to them, and bought their "corporate made toys" anyway.

What's with their "shop local, buy local" chants anyway? Their man in the WH is doing everything he can regulation and tax wise to destroy small businesses leaving only the largest companies with deep pockets and union staff left standing

Posted by: kbdabear at November 28, 2011 08:19 AM (Y+DPZ)

107 He certainly does not look healthy. I heard a rumor that he's gotten very thin Did you cross-post from the "Is Obama Gay?" article?

Posted by: t-bird at November 28, 2011 08:20 AM (FcR7P)

108 I have often entertained the theory that Barack Obama was simply David Axelrod's joke on America. Axelrod is a career PR guy and I think he wanted to see if he really could get *anyone* elected President. One thing is certain. Dick and his cronies did not expect Cankles to be such an incompetent pushover in the primaries. They were making Dick Soetero's first trial run for the White House, and guilty white liberalism proved to be a far headier tonic than they expected.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at November 28, 2011 08:20 AM (AZGON)

109 I swear, if Obama loses, I'm gonna' go on a weeklong bender. When my democrat partners call and ask "Why the hell aren't you in the office?", I'm gonna say "I'm still celebrating Obama's removal and the return of the White House to a real American! Fuckers!"

Posted by: Dave at November 28, 2011 08:20 AM (Xm1aB)

110
How does an economy recover, let alone thrive, when the government implements anti-profit policies?


Posted by: Soothie has a bad feeling about this at November 28, 2011 08:20 AM (sqkOB)

111 The only reason this makes sense is that if he does run the scorched earth campaign and wins, god help us, he will be unable to govern because he will have to demonize the hit outa his opposition. So if he actually cared about this country he would quit or lose.

Posted by: Mr Pink at November 28, 2011 08:21 AM (Kf1WI)

112 The only thing Obozo knows how to do is campaign. Think of how depressed he'll be if he's reelected. The only job he ever had will be over.

All that'd be left for him is golf and hoping that he can spike the ball whenever big chunks of the country go down the toilet.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at November 28, 2011 08:21 AM (Qxdfp)

113 Does this SCOAMF really unconsciously want to lose?  Why not--he's a loser anyway.

Posted by: Comanche Voter at November 28, 2011 08:22 AM (3ESDJ)

114 He certainly does not look healthy.  I heard a rumor that he's gotten very thin, and that somehow they "bulk up" his suits when he appears on TV.  Oh, the strain of being PINO and all those trips on the taxpayer dime and the golfing. 

After he's ousted next January, maybe some brave soul will come out with the truth about the man, not the knee-pad MSM knob-gobbler version of the truth. 
Posted by: Theresa at November 28, 2011 12:17 PM

When you see the lengths that the WH and MBM went to in disguising FDR's polio and JFK's Addisons Disease, you'll know that they'll even attempt "Weekend at Barry's"

Posted by: kbdabear at November 28, 2011 08:22 AM (Y+DPZ)

115

#96 Agreed!  All his life he has been graded on simply Being Barack Obama and given straight As for that.  Sucks for him that Presidenting requires actual work and skill.

I think these cocksuckers also really expected Republicans to roll over and play dead when they came to town.  Their single biggest mistake was probably getting Arlen Specter to switch parties.  As a Republican, Specter had the ability to swing the Maine sisters and maybe another one or two Senators to go along with him and buy into Obama's agenda and make it "bipartisan."  The Obamaites through they would get 65-70 votes for everything.  But after Specter went, none of the other RINOs would go out on a limb like he would.  Mitch McConnell grew a pair and got all the Republicans saying No. 

This pretty much totally flummoxed the Obamaites and they have been floundering ever since. 

Posted by: rockmom at November 28, 2011 08:23 AM (NYnoe)

116 I'm sorry to go O/T, but this headline is too funny to dump on a dead thread:

Professor Pervert Purveys Pedia Porn on Plane

Posted by: Y-not at November 28, 2011 11:43 AM (5H6zj)


--I give that headline a B+ on the Tabloid Scale.

The ideal verbiage would be "Perv Prof Purveys Ped Porn on Plane."

Monosyllables are key.

Posted by: logprof

"Postpubescent Porn's Passe!  Progressive Prof with Pervy Proclivity Perniciously Paddles Prick to Pedo-Porn on Passenger Plane!"

Posted by: Dang at November 28, 2011 08:24 AM (BbX1b)

117 Biggest Black Friday evah and stock market skyrocketing. The Bammy Boom has hit!!!!!

Posted by: kansas at November 28, 2011 08:26 AM (mka2b)

118

So they're already making excuses for his failure to get re-elected?

If he loses -- "It wasn't because of his policies, it was because he didn't really want the job."

If he wins -- "Look, he won even though he didn't try. Everyone must love his policies."

That's awful handy.

Posted by: 29Victor at November 28, 2011 08:26 AM (ES9R7)

119 While the shit was hitting the fan in Europe and Pakistan, Captain Cool took advantage of a warm day to play golf, then choppered himself and Worf to Baltimore to catch the Towson vs. Oregon St. game.

He did discuss policy with Bill Murray while at the game, talking about his happiness with the end of the NBA lockout

Posted by: kbdabear at November 28, 2011 08:26 AM (Y+DPZ)

120 No...you yellow dog Capitalist pigs...its part of the plan.
Get black man to do the dirty work and piss people off and then offer "moderate" replacement to sew up the edges. A nice..familiar person who harkens back to a safer time. Someone with a political record that may appeal to just enough independent voters to win the election.
Then we finish you off!
American are so gullible. 

Posted by: Saul Alinsky at November 28, 2011 08:26 AM (DDdXU)

121 When you see the lengths that the WH and MBM went to in disguising FDR's polio and JFK's Addisons Disease, you'll know that they'll even attempt "Weekend at Barry's"

Posted by: kbdabear at November 28, 2011 12:22 PM (Y+DPZ)

Not true. We will do a week long expos'e on the spit heard round the world and how the Tea Party neary bought America to its knees.

 

 

Posted by: Nat Geo Exec. at November 28, 2011 08:27 AM (8ieXv)

122 President Obama is a clinical narcissist, the concept of his failure or the idea that he got things wrong doesn't even occur to him.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 28, 2011 08:28 AM (r4wIV)

123 Obama does not want to deal with the problems and probably will lose and the Republican will be handed a larger mess than Reagan. Obama has stamped his resume and wants a bogus job like SecGen of the UN. That way he can do nothing and the world kisses his ass and the world will love him. Obama can continue to bash America and be praised for it.

Posted by: Wall-E at November 28, 2011 08:29 AM (48wze)

124 122 No...you yellow dog Capitalist pigs...its part of the plan.
Get black man to do the dirty work and piss people off and then offer "moderate" replacement to sew up the edges. A nice..familiar person who harkens back to a safer time. Someone with a political record that may appeal to just enough independent voters to win the election.
Then we finish you off!
American are so gullible. 

Posted by: Saul Alinsky at November 28, 2011 12:26 PM (DDdXU)

 

I'm ready Saul! Put me in coach!!

 

Posted by: Mitt Romney at November 28, 2011 08:29 AM (8ieXv)

125 What would this fuckstick being doing differently if he was seriously going Cloward Piven? I don't see any changes

Posted by: Mr Pink at November 28, 2011 08:30 AM (Kf1WI)

126 Here is the character of some of the people supporting the "occupiers":

Questions dog Wyclef's Haiti fund

In the months following the devastating earthquake in Haiti, a charity run by hip-hop star Wyclef Jean spent a pittance of the money it took in on disaster relief and doled out millions in questionable contracts.

Thanks to Pat Dollard! 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at November 28, 2011 08:30 AM (9hSKh)

127 #119 you forgot you're sarc/

Posted by: The terrorist Hobbit formerly known as Donna at November 28, 2011 08:30 AM (X4EXc)

128 Remember, Barry's never held a single job more than 3 years before getting itchy (and in several cases it was a matter of weeks or months).  He's done the President thing, now he wants to run the UN (which will once again put him into conflict with Clinton, Inc).  I think he's running because otherwise Michelle would beat the crap out of him.  She's too in love with the perks to care about anything else.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 28, 2011 08:30 AM (tqwMN)

129 129 #119 you forgot you're sarc/

  your sarc tag...

Posted by: The terrorist Hobbit formerly known as Donna at November 28, 2011 08:30 AM (X4EXc)

130 Barney Frank today is just the beginning I believe.  The dems see they are going to lose any semblance of power in 2012 and they are jumping ship now.

Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 28, 2011 08:31 AM (uVlA4)

131 One thing is certain. Dick and his cronies did not expect Cankles to be such an incompetent pushover in the primaries. They were making Dick Soetero's first trial run for the White House, and guilty white liberalism proved to be a far headier tonic than they expected.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at November 28, 2011 12:20 PM (AZGON)

Yeah, I have considered that a possibility too.  My own theory on that is that after 2004 Howard Dean knew that Democrats had zero chance of winning in 2008 with Hillary running as an anointed queen.  Too much of the country hated her and thought she was a liberal feminist idologue.  I think he ginned up Obama's candidacy with the aim of giving Hillary an opponent on the Left to make her look more moderate in the general election.  Axelrod was only too happy to help, though I do think he was aiming for 2012 as Obama's best shot at winning the presidency. 

Hillary turned out to be a much, much worse candidate than anyone expected her to be.  Sort of like Rick Perry this year. 

Posted by: rockmom at November 28, 2011 08:31 AM (aBlZ1)

132 He doesn't seem all that depressed to me. He acts like a rock star when he bounces up on stage, he golfs, goes to basketball games and seems generally pleased with himself. The press never hounds him like they hound Republicans. He's got it made in the shade.

Posted by: kansas at November 28, 2011 08:32 AM (mka2b)

133 Black Friday was not real. What I mean in the sense of the spending spree was done on credit which will come back to bite the very same people that had to foreclose on their homes. The MFM will praise Obama for his brilliant economic plan and new jobs created. Come January they will not report those part time jobs have vanished and unemploymnet has not really improved. This will not help Obama in the long run...The people have had enough.

Posted by: Wall-E at November 28, 2011 08:33 AM (48wze)

135 Hillary turned out to be a much, much worse candidate than anyone expected her to be. Sort of like Rick Perry this year. It was obvious when the campaign ended, which is why all of these fresh "Cankles 2012!" boomlets sound so misguided and uninformed.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at November 28, 2011 08:34 AM (AZGON)

136 12
Let's boil it down right now and say it.

Obama's presidency is a one big Fuck You to the founding of the United States.
Obama hates everything this nation stands for and hates that it exists.

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 28, 2011 11:40 AM (sqkOB)


+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


Bingo! Can I persuade you to come work for our cause, Comrade?

Posted by: Saul Alinsky at November 28, 2011 08:36 AM (DDdXU)

137 He doesn't seem all that depressed to me. He acts like a rock star when he bounces up on stage... The press never hounds him like they hound Republicans. He's got it made in the shade. Agreed. There is a streak of wishful thinking about Dick Soetero that is mystifying. The cretinous blackguard will never step down, resign, or moderate. He's a clinical narcissist. The only way this pile of shit in a human-shaped sack will leave office is if he loses the election.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at November 28, 2011 08:37 AM (AZGON)

138 136 - Rex


That's funny. Gave me the giggles.

Posted by: mama winger at November 28, 2011 08:37 AM (P6QsQ)

139 He certainly does not look healthy.  I heard a rumor that he's gotten very thin, and that somehow they "bulk up" his suits when he appears on TV.

What?  Why does everyone keep looking at me? **cough**

Posted by: Reggie Love at November 28, 2011 08:37 AM (6TB1Z)

140 127 What would this fuckstick being doing differently if he was seriously going Cloward Piven? I don't see any changes

Posted by: Mr Pink at November 28, 2011 12:30 PM (Kf1WI)

For starters, he would have gone after Card Check when he had the votes in the Senate to pass it.  He would have done some serious damage to the big banks and maybe even nationalized them; at a minimum figured out a way to have a couple of show trials and throw Ken Lewis in jail.  He would have gone after a single-payer health care bill. 

You know, they tried to keep OFA going as Organizing For America, but it fizzled.  They read their own press notices too blindly and didn't realize that all those young people voted for Obama and signed up for OFA and all the Web jazz just to be hip, there was no way they were going to take to the streets afterward and actually do anything to help him.  They are still the lazy, self-centered asses they were before the election. 

Posted by: rockmom at November 28, 2011 08:38 AM (aBlZ1)

141 Closet case w/ NPD?  Soetoro wants to lose then proclaim martyrdom vs racist voters. A fraud & a tool.

Posted by: Soetoro Zero at November 28, 2011 08:38 AM (MJ2eC)

142

Interesting, but I can see him genuinely holding out hope that his big ObamaRecovery is just lost in the mail, but will get here any day now.

A delivery boy will bring a telegram on Christmas Eve.  It'll be a notice that his much expected bonus ObamaRecovery is actually an enrollment in the Jelly-Of-The-Month Club.

The gift that keeps on giving all year round.

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 28, 2011 08:39 AM (4q5tP)

143 @136
You can act like a man! slap   Whattsa matter with you.

Posted by: Vito Corleone at November 28, 2011 08:40 AM (6TB1Z)

144 Anyone else wonder why Kal Penn went back to Hollywood and Reggie Love recently left the White House as well?  Perhaps that is why Obama seems tired and cranky lately.

Posted by: rockmom at November 28, 2011 08:40 AM (aBlZ1)

145 Thin and yellowing?  Maybe he's poisoning himself so he has an excuse not to run.  Like when you had a big test at school that you weren't prepared for so you stuck the thermometer under the bedside lamp and pretended to be sick.

Posted by: mama winger at November 28, 2011 08:40 AM (P6QsQ)

146 Hey guys, Colin Powel said Sparky's failures are all our fault. Who here can question the gravitas that a Carribbean affirmative action hire brings to the table in the defense of an Indonesian affirmative action hire? Jeebus, we are all probably just white and Christian so our point of view is flawed. Without melonin wisedom is not achieveable; reference any movie made in the last 20 years.

Posted by: Sub-Tard Backhoe at November 28, 2011 08:41 AM (0M3AQ)

147

O/T excuse me fine morons...was just about to purchase the Kindle Flame via the Amazon widget when i had a thought (don't laugh) Have any of you used the Flame to post here? Can you post comments with it? Is it a pain in the ass?

Can ya's put me some fookin knowledge?

 

 

Posted by: dananjcon at November 28, 2011 08:41 AM (8ieXv)

148  Biggest Black Friday evah and stock market skyrocketing. The Bammy Boom has hit!!!!!

Posted by: kansas at November 28, 2011 12:26 PM (mka2b)

 

My take on all of this:  I'm waiting for the downgraded stats to come out either next week or the week before Christmas.  Plus, we have no idea how much was put on credit cards and not cash.  And don't forget all that shit put on layaway that'll probably not be picked up.  Just sayin'.

Posted by: Soona at November 28, 2011 08:41 AM (XSlLt)

149 This is great and all, but the problem is that none of the Republican candidates seem to really want to win, except for the Obama-lite RINO.

Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at November 28, 2011 08:41 AM (+inic)

150 Maybe he's poisoning himself so he has an excuse not to run.

So, you're saying this is Munchausen's Syndrome by Proxy, by Proxy?  Interesting.

Posted by: pep at November 28, 2011 08:42 AM (6TB1Z)

151 136 I was having a really bad case of the Monday's until I saw this video.  OWS tears are the sweetest.
 Posted by: Rex Harrison's Hat

That is sweetness.  Three weeks?  Wow.  He is quite the hard worker!  Take a vacation,  Hercules.

Posted by: Dang at November 28, 2011 08:42 AM (BbX1b)

152
Obama, Soros, and Axelrod are following a fine line.

They are implementing as much fascio-socialism as possible up to the point where it jeopardizes Obama's reelection.

Posted by: Soothie has a bad feeling about this at November 28, 2011 08:43 AM (sqkOB)

153 What sort of "scandalous" thing could there be about Dick Soetero? Perhaps that weekend post about Dick being queer as a three-dollar bill. Well, maybe not a toilet trader fond of glory holes, but a diffident bisexual. It is quite strange that there are so few close friends or ex-lovers out of Barry's past, at least any we know about. The bootlicking media kept John Edwards' philandering out of view for years, and he was just a white candy-ass lawyer. Imagine the "moral" pressure to keep quiet about Dick's past sexual behavior. Or, possibly, he's a guy who is so narcissistic that he prefers far and away to have sex with himself over with anyone else. Perhaps his two kids were the result of "mercy" lovemaking. I denounce myself.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at November 28, 2011 08:44 AM (AZGON)

154 What's The Matter With Kansas?

Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at November 28, 2011 12:11 PM (AZGON)

The irony is that there are far more people who vote Democrat out of nothing more than habit and this ancient idea that they are "for the little guy" than Republicans.

Posted by: AmishDude at November 28, 2011 08:45 AM (T0NGe)

155 Obama does not want to deal with the problems and probably will lose and the Republican will be handed a larger mess than Reagan. Posted by: Wall-E

Of course this is a gift to the next President. To be handed the reigns after the colossal fuck up of Obama is like winning the lottery of modern history.

The next Pres has only a handful of things to accomplish: open up all oil, gas, mineral exploration, pare down the EPA, DOE, etc, audit the Fed, kill Too Big to Fail, tear up Big Business graft, and realign US abroad to make for a more credible threat to unfriendly nations, and stop spending so much fucking money!

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 28, 2011 08:47 AM (mIucK)

156 and that people, especially in west Texas, truly consider themselves apart from the assholes (my word) in Washington, D.C.

Well, duh.
Posted by: Dave

Yeah, they do. And it's just not west Texas--it's the whole state (with the exception of a few pockets in Austin, I'm sure...)

Posted by: Hobbitopoly at November 28, 2011 08:48 AM (h1p5V)

157 The Boston Globe reported that prosecutors told the court the images were of girls mostly ages 8 to 10, engaging in simulated sexual acts. The youngest girl was about 6.

Fry him.

Posted by: LC LaWedgie at November 28, 2011 08:48 AM (KOQBP)

158 I think it's more like he's indifferent to losing.  If he wins, great, 4-year Lame Duck Party!  If he loses, he loses on his own terms, drowns in Sour Grape Wine and plays the Jimmy Carter role for decades.

As for me, I love what Pat Caddell is doing.  He may actually have these fantasies of President Hillary, but what he's really doing is planting that seed of doubt in the minds of liberals: "You have a chance to win, but not with Obama.  And even if he does win, it will be such an epic disaster that the country/party will be lost forever.  If you just throw him overboard, it will be all better.

I hate to think what would be dumped on Obama if liberals thought there were a viable alternative.

Posted by: AmishDude at November 28, 2011 08:49 AM (T0NGe)

159 Professor perv.  Baseball bats.  Fathers of little girls.

Some assembly required.

Posted by: RightWing Prof, managing partner, Bacon & Cleavage LLC at November 28, 2011 08:50 AM (UOcNk)

160 Obama's approval rating amongst undecided voters is 24% in Pennsylvania. Let that sink in. When election day comes, if 3/4ths of the undecideds DON'T like the guy, they aren't going to vote for him. I think he sees the numbers and is reacting to them the way someone with a good shot of losing would.

Posted by: CAC at November 28, 2011 08:50 AM (JEVge)

161 but what he's really doing is planting that seed of doubt in the minds of liberals: "You have a chance to win, but not with Obama. I must admit that is the one point in Caddell's favor.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at November 28, 2011 08:51 AM (AZGON)

162 Obama quitting the race would mean that he has some sense of the real world.  It seems clear to me that he does not, and like every other Socialist, he will hang on until grim death in his effort to remake the US.  He wants the country to become like the one in those bull sessions he and his fellow Socialists kept talking about in the faculty lounge.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 28, 2011 08:51 AM (i0App)

163 Need we add that dumping Obastard for Democrat Savior X in 2012 would alienate the black vote for years, depressing much needed turnout.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at November 28, 2011 08:53 AM (AZGON)

164 Way too many good points on this thread.

The 'short and simple', IMO... He just wants to see Amerika burn.

He figures that he's set, no matter what happens.

He does have 'plans' in place, he just needs a second term to unleash them on our Republic.

And Devil take the hindmost.

Posted by: CPT. Charles at November 28, 2011 08:54 AM (1GunI)

165 Obama quitting the race would mean that he has some sense of the real world. It seems clear to me that he does not, and like every other Socialist, he will hang on until grim death in his effort to remake the US. One need only look at the EU to see the inevitable loyalty socialists like Dick have to failure. The EU and the euro are proving to be millstones, and their solution is: More millstones.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at November 28, 2011 08:55 AM (AZGON)

166 Black Friday was big because of the good deals to be had.  When Germany and France default in 2012 (after Italy, Spain, Portugal, and Ireland, and the DJIA drops to 8000, then you will know we are in for a HARD time. 

If I was a businessman, I would not hire a soul until the next election.  I would pay overtime to the folks I have. 

Barky won't do Hillary the favor of doing an LBJ.  As stupid as we know him to be, he really thinks that he is smart.  Fucking Affirmative Action Harvard Law grad. 

Posted by: Jimbo at November 28, 2011 08:55 AM (O3R/2)

167 Has anyone contrasted and compared Sparky to the liberal's idea of a  Forrest Gump? Just askin.

Posted by: Sub-Tard Backhoe at November 28, 2011 08:55 AM (0M3AQ)

168 SCOAMF has almost unilaterally killed affirmative action. He is flailing in the first job he has ever held and the first job he has ever been held to account for. I wonder how the Ivory Tower types at Harvard and Columbia feel about it.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at November 28, 2011 08:56 AM (jucos)

169  Obama quitting the race would mean that he has some sense of the real world.  It seems clear to me that he does not, and like every other Socialist, he will hang on until grim death in his effort to remake the US.  He wants the country to become like the one in those bull sessions he and his fellow Socialists kept talking about in the faculty lounge.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 28, 2011 12:51 PM (i0App)

 

And remember.  King SCOAMF still has over a year toward the fundamental changing of America.  When the dems ruled the congress, they gave him dangerous amounts of power.  I think we'll be seeing a lot more EO's as we get closer to election time.

Posted by: Soona at November 28, 2011 08:58 AM (XSlLt)

170 The next Pres has only a handful of things to accomplish: open up all oil, gas, mineral exploration, pare down the EPA, DOE, etc, audit the Fed, kill Too Big to Fail, tear up Big Business graft, and realign US abroad to make for a more credible threat to unfriendly nations, and stop spending so much fucking money!

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 28, 2011 12:47 PM (mIucK)

And you think any of the R candidates will actually be able to get any of that done (and you didn't mention ObamaSuicideCare)?

Perry (who is a very long shot IMO) is the only one I think might have the cojones to actually use an Executive Order to open up energy exploration. 

Too Big to Fail is Big Money in the right pockets, and the Congress has a big hand in whose pockets get picked and whose get filled. 

The enviros have indoctrinated a generation to greeness and will attack en mass any attempt to rein in the EPA (for the chirren).


Other than that, I wish you well because you have set up a solution to many of our problems.  I fear that most of the establishment political class want talk and tweaking, not tangible action.

Posted by: Hrothgar at November 28, 2011 08:59 AM (i3+c5)

171 SCOAMF has almost unilaterally killed affirmative action. He is flailing in the first job he has ever held and the first job he has ever been held to account for. oh please oh please oh please if only Dick's performance killed that abortion of a policy

Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at November 28, 2011 08:59 AM (AZGON)

172 Trying to psychoanalyze a stuttering clusterfuck in the throes of his miserable failure is folly. He may or may not want to lose; but the forces of progressive statism that have propped him up so far have their own agenda, and they most emphatically want to win. They're the real enemy, the ones who must be defeated.

Let's win the election, and let the historians worry about what was really going on in Obama's noggin.

Posted by: Brown Line at November 28, 2011 09:01 AM (VrNoa)

173 How else to explain the nonstop missteps, the stammering and stuttering campaign Was that a little shout out to steevy and AllenG he slipped in there?

Posted by: t-bird at November 28, 2011 09:02 AM (FcR7P)

174 There is something to the statement that affirmative action types fail up. Most institutions want to get rid of them and a lot of them end up with positions better than the ones they were chased away from.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at November 28, 2011 09:03 AM (jucos)

175 The SCOAMF is not really being held to account by anyone except a few bitter clingers.  Why every day on NBC, CBS, ABC, and PBS, I find evidence of his magnificent presidential skills. 
Why just this weekend, he was in such control of the situation that he was able to go golfing with a clear conscience even though our ally, Pakistan, was going to cut off supply routes to our troops engaged in a well thought and carefully planned kinetic action in Afshitistan.

Posted by: Hrothgar at November 28, 2011 09:05 AM (i3+c5)

176 156 What's The Matter With Kansas?

Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at November 28, 2011 12:11 PM (AZGON)

 

Now I'm worried. You have any ideas?

Posted by: kansas at November 28, 2011 09:08 AM (mka2b)

177

The faces of the establishment Republicans:

Timmy Geitner

Ben Bernanke

Mitt Romney

Posted by: Mimi at November 28, 2011 09:10 AM (Y95e4)

178

Please- enough with the psychoanalysis of King Putt. You're forgetting the obvious:

that he was woefully unprepared to be President in the first place;

that while being book smart, he is street stupid;

that he has surrounded himself with ideological sycophants who, like himself, don't know and thus can't see that their policies don't work;

and that ALL of this is covered up by his slobbering, kneepad-wearing fanbase in the press

 

Occam's Razor, slicin like a hammer once again

Posted by: Jones at November 28, 2011 09:20 AM (8sCoq)

179 Occupy Richmond? Don't mind if I do!

Posted by: Godfrey Weitzel at November 28, 2011 09:21 AM (qndXR)

180 Need we add that dumping Obastard for Democrat Savior X in 2012 would alienate the black vote for years, depressing much needed turnout.

I'm not entirely sure on that.  If he decided not to run, the word would go out far and wide that he just couldn't succeed because of his race....ie. the Rethuglicans are so racist, they did everything they could to hold him back.  Blacks could possibly still come out and vote en masse to stick it to the white man (who, in their minds, are the R's).  Punish the R's, as it were, for forcing this innocent and brilliant black man with the nice crease to abdicate. 

Posted by: Lady in Black: still voting for Perry (He has the best hair.) at November 28, 2011 09:23 AM (ycuSb)

181 What's The Matter With Kansas?

Hold On

Posted by: Kansas at November 28, 2011 09:26 AM (Y+DPZ)

182

Nah, he wants to win but he can't stand that the American people don't fawn all over him like they did three years ago. It grates on him. Another problems is that left wing theory is his religion, but unfortunately his religion has been and continues to be proven as demonstrably false and he can't accept this. In order for him to cope he must think that it's not that his theory is inadequate, it's the American people who are inadequate.

If he loses the election he will follow int he same path as Jimmy Carter, blaming America for his failures and sucking up to dictators worldwide.

If he wins the election those who opposed him will have hell to pay.

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at November 28, 2011 09:30 AM (JxMoP)

183 "He knows that over the next four years, with automatic budget cuts set to take effect and the American peopleÂ’s rising ire over the profligate spending in Washington, heÂ’s going to have no money to redistribute to the masses." I don't buy the idea that he knows this at all. I think he believes he can circumvent the automatic budget cuts or finesse them so they apply only to defense. I also think he believes the GOP could lose the House, in which case a reelected Obama would have a blank check. The size of the debt doesn't matter to him at all. Given the chance, he will raise the debt to 100% of GDP or even higher, and let his successor take the heat for the consequences. He knows the history books, mostly written by liberals, will treat him kindly no matter what he does.

Posted by: sauropod at November 28, 2011 09:35 AM (14aF6)

184 The mess won't be straightened out in the next Presidential term, so whoever beats Obama will be a one-termer.  It's just too much to get done quickly enough to turn the economy around in four years.

It might be possible if we lived in a vacuum, but the rest of the world has its own problems which are only now becoming apparent.  China is experiencing a slowdown in factory orders and a sharp decline in real estate transactions.  Given the ChiComs' long history of putting a shiny, happy face on even the worst news, it is fair to assume it is worse than it appears.

Europe is beyond salvage, period.  Major banks are under water on sovereign debt which will never be repaid.  The currency and the EU itself are effectively doomed, the only question is one of timing.

Those huge markets mean that our exports won't be able to lead us out of slow growth as they have out of every downturn for over thirty years.  There is no market.

Fortunately, India and South and Central America aren't having major problems, and are experiencing relatively healthy growth, but there just isn't enough demand there to lift a huge economy like ours.

We still have to get rid of Obama, or the necessary steps will not be taken and the situation will continue to deteriorate.  We must bite the bullet to get ourselves straight, and this will not be possible with Democrats holding any significant power.  And if we allow him another four years of lifetime judicial appointments, the Affirmative Action President will be infecting our polity and damaging our country indirectly for thirty years or more.

Posted by: Adjoran at November 28, 2011 09:46 AM (VfmLu)

185 #185 Liberals don't believe the total debt matters at all.  Some of them used to care about all the money in the federal budget going toward interest on the debt, but somehow that has become a non-issue.  All that matters to them is spending, spending, and more spending, and not touching entitlements, ever.

Posted by: rockmom at November 28, 2011 09:49 AM (NYnoe)

186 I say Barack Obama bails out if the SCOTUS strikes down ObamaCare.
Given that would probably happen about around June ...

Posted by: Barney Frank at November 28, 2011 09:52 AM (e8kgV)

187 185 . . . I think he believes he can circumvent the automatic budget cuts or finesse them so they apply only to defense. I also think he believes the GOP could lose the House, in which case a reelected Obama would have a blank check. The size of the debt doesn't matter to him at all. Given the chance, he will raise the debt to 100% of GDP or even higher, and let his successor take the heat for the consequences.. . .

Successor???  He's probably got in mind some way to suspend the 2012 elections, or if he wins in 2012 (gack! spit!) to suspend 'em in 2016 so he can pretend it's for The Good of the Country and go right on partyin'.  I can't imagine he can visualize far enough down the road to realize the heat you mention will roast him if he's still the figurehead in 2017.  (But then, if things get that bad, there won't even be the pretense of our voting for anything, so the flames won't even touch him.)

Posted by: Benzadmiral at November 28, 2011 09:53 AM (WuRdj)

188

Biggest Black Friday Ever!

No. Desperate for deals because there's not enough money in the Christmas stash. The Black Friday rush is similar to the Titantic's big run on lifeboats. Most use evah.

Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at November 28, 2011 09:55 AM (qwK3S)

189 Other than the free airplane, what is in it for him to win? Being president is work and seriously cuts down on the millions he can be making on speaking fees to adoring fans. I'm surprised he didn't already announce he's not running and citing an illness or something.

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at November 28, 2011 09:56 AM (UU0OF)

190

I was in a mall yesterday and it was pretty dead for the first weekend of Christmas shopping.  I even found a parking spot right in front of the mall entrance.  All the stores have hired extra people, but many of them are just standing around.  The stores that are doing well are the Forever 21s and Old Navy and the other similar discounters where you can still buy something decent for under $35.  

How much money is Best Buy making on free cell phones/

Posted by: rockmom at November 28, 2011 10:00 AM (NYnoe)

191 Other than the free airplane, what is in it for him to win? Being president is work and seriously cuts down on the millions he can be making on speaking fees to adoring fans. I'm surprised he didn't already announce he's not running and citing an illness or something.

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at November 28, 2011 01:56 PM (UU0OF)

He seriously loves the title of POTUS.  It was obvious when his campaign invented that mock presidential seal for him and then invented the "Office of the President-Elect" after the election.  Even when he met with the House GOP bnefopre the Obamacare voting started, he had to have a nameplate on the table that said "President Barack Obama."  I'll bet he has a desk drawer full of those signs.  He is like a 14-year-old who ran for 9th grade class president.  I'm sure he looks at himself every stinking day in the mirror and says "President. Barack. Obama."  And probably gets wood. 

No, he doesn't want to give that up.   This is the only job he thinks he deserves.

Posted by: rockmom at November 28, 2011 10:04 AM (qE3AR)

192 69 You can't lose, if you don't play!
Posted by: Dang at November 28, 2011 12:00 PM (BbX1b)

Worked for me. That's how you know I'm a conservative who can win. 'Cause I never ran for re-election.

Posted by: Mitt Romney at November 28, 2011 10:28 AM (ycMO4)

193 You guys are missing one important word in your analysis--"unconscious."  No, I doubt he will resign, withdraw from the race, or do stupid stuff deliberately to blow his own chance of winning.  Sometimes, the subconscious is what saves us from ourselves.  Obama's ego wants another term, but subconsciously, he may be trying to protect himself from the reality of a huge loss in next year's election.

I don't pretend to know what he will do specifically, but studying pathological narcissists is my passion, and one thing I can guarantee:  there is nobody, nobody, from Michelle on down, that he won't throw under his bus--consciously--if he feels it will benefit himself.

Posted by: Laura Castellano at November 28, 2011 10:41 AM (fuw6p)

194 Inflate your tires

Posted by: 2SoonOld2LateSmart at November 28, 2011 11:03 AM (YFAMg)

195 I thought the Recovery Fairy said he wasn't running again today?

Posted by: andycanuck at November 28, 2011 11:10 AM (/VGq8)

196 "Does Obama unconsciously want to lose?"

Are you shitting me?!
I think the same question can be asked of the Republican party this year.  I have never seen a presidential campaign run as stupidly as this one by either party.
Seriously, a ham sandwich could win against The One and the Republicans are still going to lose.

Posted by: RayJ at November 28, 2011 11:22 AM (pI/IV)

197 From what I have read, this is a lose/lose for the Dems (except for GOP buffoonery) if the Dems primary him and, say, ole cankles Hillary Who Needs a Hairstylist wins. The black vote would stay home. Or, if it is revealed that iReggie and/or Kal were more than b-ball buddies, same abandonment of him.

From the looks of Barry, he is running on the edge of whatever sanity is left. However, cheering crowds and TV cameras are his energy, and pump up his malignant narcissist ego.

He looks horrific in unposed and unvetted by WH photos. I have never seen anyone's skin color look almost green (jaundiced yellow, yes, but green?).

Posted by: ChristyBlinky at November 28, 2011 11:24 AM (baL2B)

198 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at November 28, 2011 11:52 AM (7WJOC)

199 Unless something changes Obama will win reelection next November. As miserable as he has been and is as POTUS, the GOP candidates are uninspiring enough that they cannot win sufficient Independent votes to overcome the inertia of incumbent Obama. Yet, he also knows that he will not be able to institute any of his "dreams" for America, and by election time his signature piece of legislation may well be on the scrap heap. So why run at all?

Well, what the f*ck else is he going to do? If he suffers through another term he can then make millions on the ex-POTUS speaking tour circuit (he's the first black POTUS you know), even if he accomplishes nothing at all. He will be able to play lots of golf, for free, and travel the world and nation as he sees fit.

I strongly suspect he is missing the ambition gene that would lead men like Bill Clinton and GW to off themselves were they to find themselves in similar circumstances. In other words, he's content to be a ne'er do well.

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If this only were true.
His "signature piece of legislation" - ObamaCare will survive if he's reelected and that would be worth it all by itself.
Throw in a probable Supreme Court Justice nomination and the 5-4 advantage we have goes to 4-5:  Strike the First and Second amendments.
If he wins reelection, he wins.

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