1 Trump is a pretty fart smeller, but president?  No.  He won't win the nomination, but the run up to the vote should be pretty damn entertaining......hopefully.

2 Trump bores me. I think I was still in high school when he was a half-assed Iacocca, peddling books and building his empire. Interesting then, not so much anymore. Would he make a good President? I doubt it. 

3 Rosie's twat probably looks like Trump's hair....in a wind storm.

You're welcome.

4 Oooof.

Please make yourself like Mary Poppins and let's see that hairpiece make you fly like the wind.

5 I've always wondered where all Barry's ex-girlfriends are.  Hmmmmm.....

6 Which is bigger:

Donald's ego
or Rosie's _{honey pot}?

7 Just what the country needs another hair plug politician that has gone bankrupt, aka stolen money, at least two times.

He doesn't drink either, fuck this self promoting piece of shit.

Want some NJ casino bonds?

8 Donald Trump has lost his posting rights at redstate.

9 OT: Obama presser on Japan at 2:30pm CST

10 If came down to Trump or Huckabee, I'm going with The Donald. Plus, the guy's pretty funny at times.

11 I've always wondered where all Barry's ex-girlfriends are.  Hmmmmm.....

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 17, 2011 02:42 PM (UOM4

I haven't.

12 Good heavers

Is that a typo or a nod to St. Patty's day?  Either way, I like it.

And top o the day and Happy St. Patricks Day to all the moron/ettes.  Fer Heaver's sake, go have a pint of Guinness.

13 Trump is a fucking putz and he won't run for anything.  His name has been out of the media for three days running so he is running with scissors to get attention.  Obama is an embarrassing narcissist but he has nothing on Trump.  

14 I hope he runs. He'll split the NE RINO vote with Romney. They can waste their money together.

15 9 OT: Obama presser on Japan at 2:30pm CST


I'll be sure to have my TV off.  Jackass.

16

Speaking about the president, Trump – in line with "birthers" who question the president's citizenship – said he, too, had his doubts that Obama was born in the U.S.

I can't pretend to give a shit about this, but I note ABC shoehorning-in the "birthers" label, when the rest of sentence worked fine without it.

I haven't seen MBM adopt "Truthers" label for said people, let alone go so clearly out of the way to inject it into a story.

17 5 I've always wondered where all Barry's ex-girlfriends are.  Hmmmmm.....

Darling, you'd have better luck finding a uncorn,  

18 We could do far, far worse then Donald Trump. But you all already know that.

19 I hope he runs. He'll split the NE RINO vote with Romney. They can waste their money together.

Do they give you internet connection in study hall?

20 Grluukqiiiqlliilkiikk..

21 If Trump winds up in the Oval Office, then I'm moving to Sendai.

22 What are Trump's views on foreign policy?

23 Here's an idea for 2012: Anyone who gets a bill from his credit card company with a fraudulent Obama donation on it ought to swear-out a mail fraud complaint with the USPS. Cloward-Piven the motherfuckers.

24

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby

 

He believes in it.

25 Marks against Trump: 1. The Daniels Problem, aka the bald spot from hell 2. The Palin Problem, aka had a reality show 3. The Bloomberg Problem, aka a rich opportunist from NYC To sum up, three big problems in one obnoxious unit. But at least he'll inject $600 million into the economy, so give him some credit for that.

26 @22 He doesnt' like China. That much he's made clear.

27 You have to admit it would be an interesting four years.

28 I think Barry is a synthetic.  His entire backstory is just some old pictures and paperwork.

29 Did someone say parade?

http://tinyurl.com/69r3t2w

30 Last year when I pitched in the Little League World Series, being 6'4" with a fierce soul patch, some of the coaches from opposing teams were concerned about my eligibility age-wise. I had a buddy of mine who is a foot doctor sign a live birth statement dated 1999. Then at all of our victory parties, during my numerous speeches, I would make ironic jokes about people not believing that I was eleven, and talk about how victimized I was because people questioned my marriage to a 47 yo milf, if I do say so myself. They had their live birth statement. 2756 K's that year. I was a god!

31

Trump is like PT Barnum.....  he always generates buzz - whether it is picking fights with people or running for president -  to self promote his own self interests. 

 Would he really run for president?  I doubt it.  I think this is all about keeping his name in the news. 

32 Do they give you internet connection in study hall?

Posted by: laceyunderalls at March 17, 2011 02:46 PM (pLTLS)

School is over already.

33

The Trump Train is coming.  Get off the track, you lily-livered sapsuckers.

Obama's getting reelected.  The Republicans have nobody that can beat him. 

If we're going down, I'm going down in style.  I'm going down with Donald.

 

 

 

 

ok, so that sounds a little weird.

34 Nobody ever comes forward. Nobody knows who he his until later in his life. It's very strange. The whole thing is very strange," he added.


You do have to wonder about that.  I mean, most people want their 15 minutes of fame . . . (I don't though.  In fact, my hubby wasn't happy when I told him I didn't sign up to win $$ on Yahoo bracket.  He was irate when I told him why - 'you have to agree to being publicized and there's no way I want my face out there.'  He said that there was no way my 'Cinderella story' picks would win, but since I didn't sign up, I'm destined to do well)

35 My grammar sicks.

36 Trump would be highly entertaining.  My son was telling me yesterday that an interviewer asked him if he'd be willing to move from one of his fabulous homes into the White House, and he kind of chuckled or something.

And I'd vote for him in a heartbeat over Bambam.  Especially if he had Bolton, Allen West or Marco Rubio as a running mate.

And the MBM would tie themselves in knots trying to ignore his supermodel wife's looks.

37 Finally Obama is going to be on TV.

38 22 What are Trump's views on foreign policy?

He thinks he is da bomb.

39 "His entire backstory is just some old pictures and paperwork." Heh. The shitstain is such an empty suit that even the KGB couldn't give him a legend big enough to fill a postcard.

40 I honestly thinks he wants to run but knows he won't win.  So, he'll say enough controversial things that get enough attention and "heat" that he can decline to run on the basis that he's just too important to deal with the petty bickering. 

EGO!1!!!!1111!!1

41 He strikes me as someone who could lead France. They tend to like men of his moral standing

42 Trump is a damn idiot and so is anyone who votes for him. On top of that he isn't even a Republican.

43 I want more life, money, fucker.

44 I was a god!

Posted by: alppuccino at March 17, 2011 02:48 PM (9ZFW9)

Liar!  You were nothing like Me!

45 The Trump Train is going to run head on into the T'Paw Express.

46 After Romney flip flops over to the correct side of the socialized medicine issue he will posses nearly as much credibility as Trump, which is almost enough.

47 Did someone say parade?

Where? Where?!!!

48 My impression of Trump is that he loves this country, loves capitalism, and would have no problem kicking ass in the foreign policy arena. What's not to like? So he's a pompous narcissist. Just like most politicians.

49 Trump would make for a pretty lousy candidate but it would be fun to watch.

50 Trump is a damn idiot and so is anyone who votes for him. On top of that he isn't even a Republican.

Posted by: Vic at March 17, 2011 02:51 PM (M9Ie6)

 

You just made The List,  Pops.

51 >>>What are Trump's views on foreign policy? the article has him saying he would have approved a decapitating "surgical strike" on Qadaffy. Also, his big thing is always saying he'd be tougher with the Chinese. That's his real foreign policy. Being tough with the Chinese.

52 I just can't get this song out of my head.  You think Michelle would get pissed if I just slipped down to the beach for a while and had a cig ho?

http://tinyurl.com/5wsbwe

53

On top of that he isn't even a Republican.

That ain't no hill for a high stepper!

54

O/T -- Barack Obama Elementary Shuts Down - Fiscal Mismanagement.

(The link icon won't work, but it's at Michelle Malkin.

55 I'd rather have Trump than Barky.

56 Every presidential candidate says they'll be tougher on the Chinese.

57 If the congressional Repubs keep it up, not being a Republican may work in Trump's favor.

58 That's his real foreign policy. Being tough with the Chinese.

I said no MSG!

59 48 My impression of Trump is that he loves this country, loves capitalism, and would have no problem kicking ass in the foreign policy arena. What's not to like?

So he's a pompous narcissist. Just like most politicians. Posted by: Dave

All we have now in the WH is a pompous narcissist.  Trump would be a big improvement.

60 the article has him saying he would have approved a decapitating "surgical strike" on Qadaffy.

Just like Booosh did with Saddam!  Oh noes!

/It probably would have worked too.

Also, his big thing is always saying he'd be tougher with the Chinese. That's his real foreign policy. Being tough with the Chinese.

He's got my vote then.  The Chinese aren't overt enemies...yet, but they sure as hell aren't allies. 

61

Who is more electable as the Republican candidate in the general vs. Zero:

Trump or Palin?

 

 

Booyah.

62 42 Trump is a damn idiot and so is anyone who votes for him. On top of that he isn't even a Republican.

He's called himself a Republican in interviews.

63 I could go for some President Ivanka. Or just plain Ivanka.

64 Freaking Butler Buzzer Beater.  There goes my perfect bracket.

65 He's called himself a Republican in interviews.

So has Bloomberg.

66 Sure, he says he's running for President, but I think he's really just angling for that coveted Secretary of State position.

67 "It's an advantage, sure. Obama's going to raise $1 billion, a lot of it from his shady overseas admirers thanks to his odd decision to not require a zip code authorization for such donations."

hahahah my font changed while I "stepped away" and it is St. Patty's day so I can be forgiven but I thought I read "from his baby mamas in congress" only to see it was "from his shady overseas admirers'

and it's early!

68 He's called himself a Republican in interviews.

So has Bloomberg.

And Charlie Crist.

69 You could be damn sure no one in his WH would be lecturing us on all of our filthy habits!!! Yeah.

First order of business in the Trump Administration:  Rip up that fucking vegetable garden.

70

OK, new contest.

Try to name a presidential candidate so bad they'd make you cast a vote for Obama. Personally I'm drawing a blank.

71 I could use me some Ivanka too. The only thing that even makes this *plausible*, given his nyc billionaire morals, is that his kids turned out very well.

72 >>Try to name a presidential candidate so bad they'd make you cast a vote for Obama. Personally I'm drawing a blank.


Ted Turner

73 65 He's called himself a Republican in interviews.

So has Bloomberg.

We're ALL Republicans up here, trust us.

74 First order of business in the Trump Administration:  Rip up that fucking vegetable garden.

This x infinity. 

Its all toxic organic crap anyway.

75 If Trump wins, you can be sure his "excessive" golfing will dominate the news.

76 Try to name a presidential candidate so bad they'd make you cast a vote for Obama. Personally I'm drawing a blank.

Michelle Obama.  (and I'm not totally sure on that one.)

77 The fourth skin job was Barry your basic pleasure model.

78 George Soros

79 Obama is the worst president ever and a disaster of unbounded proportions.  Even if Trump is an idiot, he's got to be at least 20% better than Obama.  I will vote for a Trump if the only other option is Obama.  I would like another option, but we gotta play with the folks that show up.

80 73 65 He's called himself a Republican in interviews.

So has Bloomberg.

We're ALL Republicans up here, trust us.

Posted by: Zombie John Rockerfeller at March 17, 2011 03:00 PM (JpFM9)

It's easier to get the part if you are a democrat playing a republican

81 May I have another Guinness please?

http://tinyurl.com/5ud5fdr

82 I just do eyes, ju-, ju-, just eyes... just genetic design, just eyes.

83 Pol Pot. Maybe.

84 Isn't Trump the embodiment of American swagger and risk-taking capitalist who tells it like it is? I mean I know he comes with baggage, but gosh-be-durn, he has that American character that I think alot of people, poor and rich, would connect to. But then again, I have been drinking and could be talking out my ass.

85

The only thing that even makes this *plausible*, given his nyc billionaire morals, is that his kids turned out very well.

Excellent.  Soon, you will be removing the sneer asterisks and "plausible" becomes "doable." 

Trump Ice bottled water in the WH gift shop being "tacky" gives way to "fiscally responsible.

Be not afraid to dip your toe in the gutter, Ace.  The water is warm.  You have friends here.  We have booze.

Baby steps, my friend.  Baby steps. 

86 "Try to name a presidential candidate so bad they'd make you cast a vote for Obama. Personally I'm drawing a blank."

Lindon Larouche

87 Or Lyndon

88

Can we just get Trump into the Debates??? Because he is the only one with Nads enough to even ASK to see Obama's birth cert...

And wouldn't that be a hoot??? Bambi would be sputtering like a old style motorboat...

89 Okay, here's why I don't give shit about the Birth argument: It distracts from the fact Obama might well be the worst president we have ever had lets Obama misdirect from the fact he has run the country in a ditch.

90 Who is more electable as the Republican candidate in the general vs. Zero:

Trump or Palin?

Booyah.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 17, 2011 02:55 PM (5FIGI)


I dunno, who do you think would get beat up more by their own party?

I think Trump's style of debating is very similar to Joe Biden's, he is able to seem very confident even as he sticks his foot in his mouth again and again...  not sure he'd do very well against Obama in a debate.

91 The question is moot.

92 Obama. Get it?

93 Here's the official Barack Obama Story:

In 1960, a married man named Barack Obama came from Kenya to Hawaii, leaving behind his pregnant wife and first-born son. That fall, he enrolled in a Russian class and met a 17-year-old girl named Stanley who was working on a degree in - and here I quote Wikipedia - "anthropology or mathematics". (As a reminder of the cultural state of the nation, the fall of 1960 was when a Democrat won the presidency by running to the right of the guy who planned D-Day.) Five months after they met, they got married, and six months after they got married, she gave birth.

And then three weeks after that, she left Hawaii and her husband and her parents to go to school in Washington state while raising a child whose age could be measured in days.

She returned to Hawaii only after her husband left for Cambridge, MA a year later, and filed for divorce in Jan 1964, just shy of her 3rd anniversary, though she had only ever been in the same state as her husband for the first three weeks after their wedding.

That's the official story. That's weird. Somehow if I notice how weird it is, I'm supposed to be as viciously racist as any 19th-century Democrat.

Incidentally, Stanley's father had a close friend, "Uncle Frank", who pops up in Obama's "biography". Uncle Frank also wrote a thinly veiled autobiography of his own, in which he describes deflowering the white teenage daughter of an acquaintance in Hawaii.

94 Some of Obama's college "chums" at Harvard have said he didn't show up for a single day of class. Gentleman's "C" and all that. But that never seems to get out to the mainstream. Someone out there knows where he was born and is not stepping forward, or is not being allowed to.

I believe he was born in Hawaii, but I grow more suspicious  the more the president doesn't address this issue.

95 Obama should seriously be in jail for taking tens of millions in illegal foreign donations and then covering up that fact. He's literally a criminal. He held overseas fundraising trips.

Will he be able to get away with the illegal donations again in 2012? Have the Repubs learned nothing? Why hasn't some State AG tried to nail Obama on this?

96 Are there any photos floating around the internet of Trump dressed up in drag?

No?  Then put him in the fucking horse race.

97 Try to name a presidential candidate so bad they'd make you cast a vote for Obama.

I've voted for countless 3rd party kooks and weirdos but never once for a democrat.

98 As much as I really don't like Trump as a candidate, I like the way he answers these questions.   Other GOP contenders should take notes.

99 Trump?  Yeah, we know him.

http://tinyurl.com/4spewqn

100 OK, new contest.

Dennis Kucinich.

101 Maxine Waters. Sheila Jackson Lee. For starters.

102 Joe Biden

103 we don't know anything about Obama's college chums, most likely because they were hardcore radicals and it's all suppressed

Mohammed Chandoo, Margot Mifflin, Sohale "Hal" Siddiqi, Phil Boerner, Cassandra Butts, Imad Husain, Wahid Hamid, Michael Froman, Vinai Thummalapally, Paul Carpenter...

Except for "Hal," who's just some guy, they're typical born-into-it ruling-class tools. And so are Ayers and Dohrn. And so is Obama. And Bin Laden. It's a type that from out-of-the-loop it's easy to mistake for "radicals." Because they often say that's what they are. But that's like believing Coke is "It."

Obama never met an actual radical in his life (not even Frank Davis). He's incredibly sheltered—but not in a way that's easy to understand from outside. I'm a silver-spoon red-diaper kid, too, and these are the "my people" I rebelled against. They're royalty (the "twenty-ninth in line for the throne" kind, with little colonial fiefdoms), not radicals.

We're boned in at least one more hole than you think.

104

He's trying to pander to us, but he doesn't even know who we are. He thinks we're obssessed with the Birther issue, because he's surrounded by Libs who've never met a Repub or only know Meghan McCain types.

See: Dumbass Glee Moment with Kathy Griffin.

105 Cassandra Butts

Leave her out of this!

106 I need to see Palin's "brackets" before I can decide if I can support her as a Presidential candidate.

107 I think he'd make the debates and discussions interesting, at least have someone from a business background involved instead of just a bunch of lifetime politicians. And I am pretty far right on most issues.

108 Is it wrong for me to say I'd take Trump over Obama?  I would.

I might take Carter over Obama.  I would certainly leap at the opportunity to have Bill Clinton over Obama.

109 I'd take just about anybody over Obama, still that would be a rough primary for Trump to get through... I think he'd be getting grief from both the Tea Party people who probably wouldn't see him as a true conservative, and folks like Huckabee who would have a field day with Trump's personal life.

And who would Trump pick as his VP anyway?

110

OK, new contest.

Try to name a presidential candidate so bad they'd make you cast a vote for Obama. Personally I'm drawing a blank.

Mrs. Obama?

111 I need to see Palin's "brackets"

Get your eyes off her brackets, buddy

112

I recently repudiated my pro-choice position for a pro-life one. I used to think legal abortion was the lesser of two evils, but not anymore.

But somehow in Trump's case I suspect it was less of an honest examination of morality and human value, and more a case of political expediency. Who knows, maybe I'm wrong on that.

113 It's too bad Billy Mays died, he would've been the ideal running mate.

114

Here's the thing about birthers that I just do not understand.

Not one person (that I've heard of) has challenged the notion that his mother is an American citizen.  Unless she formally renounced her citizenship prior to his birth, it does not matter where he was born.  He could have been born in theheart of Kenya, still an American citizen.  Moon; Citizen.  That took all of about five seconds to process when I first heard this as an 'issue".  And really, if you were in Obama's shoes, would you release your birth certificate when it was obviously unnecessary, yet your opponents (or some of them) are making total fools out of themselves over it?  Of course not.  Never interrupt the opposition in the middle of making a mistake.

I'm with Ace; the absence3 of background on him is his radical past being suppressed, not being born in Kenya.  The thought of a foreigner as president doesn't bother me in the least.  The thought of a radical leftist, pal of communist thug wanna-be's being president stands the hair on the back of my neck.

115 95 Obama should seriously be in jail for taking tens of millions in illegal foreign donations and then covering up that fact. He's literally a criminal. He held overseas fundraising trips.

Will he be able to get away with the illegal donations again in 2012? Have the Repubs learned nothing? Why hasn't some State AG tried to nail Obama on this?

Posted by: Clubber Lang at March 17, 2011 03:08 PM (QcFbt)

It's foreign aid in reverse.

116 He could have been born in theheart of Kenya, still an American citizen.

The birthierry elements would agree, I think, but will argue that he isn't a natural-born citizen per Article 2.

117 99 Trump?  Yeah, we know him.

http://tinyurl.com/4spewqn

Posted by: Bankrupty Judge at March 17, 2011 03:10 PM (JpFM9)

He's worried. If he's running for President he gets Secret Service protection from the creditors that want to kill him.

118 Not one person (that I've heard of) has challenged the notion that his mother is an American citizen. Unless she formally renounced her citizenship prior to his birth, it does not matter where he was born Not one person (that I've heard of) has challenged the notion that if he was born outside of the U.S., he's not a natural born citizen. His mother's birthplace is irrelevant. For persons born between December 24, 1952 and November 14, 1986, citizenship required that (1) The person's parents were married at the time of birth; (2) One of the person's parents was a U.S. citizen when the person was born; (3) The citizen parent lived at least ten years in the United States before the child's birth; AND (4) A minimum of 5 of these 10 years in the United States were after the citizen parent's 14th birthday. Obama does not meet requirement number 4, as she was only 18 at time time of his birth, and thus had not lived in the U.S. for 5 years after her 14th birthday. Do you really think they'd be making such a stink about whether he was born her if it didn't matter? Don't you think we'd have seen some official 1961 documentation by now?

119

At least Trump would talk crap about Ø, unlike the cowards that make up our current crop of 'leaders' and since its Trump, it will make the news.

120

He's not gonna be President, and in all likelihood, he's not even going to get the Republican nomination. But he's battle scarred, tough, blunt and not afraid of throwing flames whenever called for (and sometimes when not called for). I think some of this might force the usual "R" suspects out of their holes where they are stuck on scared of the media and beltway complex.

I saw him the other night on TV and someone was saying about Trump, "You prepare for a meeting with him, and you tell yourself you will take or at least maintain some control of the situation, but it isn't going to happen that way, no matter who you are or what you do."

Politics is obviously a different situation, and there are some tough hombres in the political arena for sure, but I do think it will be very, very interesting to watch. I'll be sorely disappointed if he retreats from his "The Donald" persona.

121 Ive always doubted the birther stance, a 60's Amercia hating white marxist like his mother wasnt going to use "the peoples make wonderful health care services of Kenya" to deliver her first unaborted baby.

I feel like birthers are really missing the mark on this.

Reality is that Barry Soetero has spent millions on lawyers covering (and a supreme court justice position to Kagan) to cover up his birth certificate and college years.  There is some record of him applying as a non US citizen in his school years to get certain scholarships etc.. 

-born a hermaphrodite?
-his mother formally renounced his US citizenship?
-His real father was not kenyan but the black bagboy at the grocery store?
-His real father was Frank Marshall Davis?

Birthers stop missing the point and start digging elsewhere I hate losing to this Jackass

122 Who could possibly be so bad that I'd vote for Obama? Satan, maybe.

123 Nonetheless: if by some freakish twist of fate it's Trump vs Obama, I am voting for Trump.
If it's Trump's hair vs Obama, Trump.

124 The problem for Obama is that his parents were not married at the time of his birth in Hawaii.  If one looks carefully at the picture of Barack Obama, Sr., it is clearly apparent that this man bears no resemblance whatsoever to his putative son once you get past the melanin.  Look at pictures of Frank Marshall Davis, however, and the resemblance is unmistakable.  Frank Marshall Davis was a good friend of  Obama's maternal grandfather and a mentor to Obama while he was growing up in Hawaii (after he returned from Indonesia).  Who knows what is on the "long form" birth certificate which no one has ever seen, that the current Governor of Hawaii cannot find, and which I'll bet no longer exists anywhere?  Usually the mother of a newborn completes the birth certificate form in the hospital while she is recovering from the delivery.  Whatever is on the "long form," if it still exists in Hawaii's records archives, is something that will never see the light of day.

The voters and the press were smitten by Obama in the 2008 election.  The voters did not ask enough questions and the press did not supply any answers.  I'm afraid we got what we deserved.

125 "I'm afraid we got what we deserved." You speak of this as though it's over. What happens if credible documentation ever surfaces showing that Princess Barack traveled on an Indonesian passport as an adult? There is no right answer to that question.

126
-his mother formally renounced his US citizenship?

Some of the other Obama bastards look like Barry Jr., so he's likely not Davis's son.

Could totally see ol' Stanley renouncing his US citizenship though, lover of exotic international Marxist cock that she was.

127 I am all for Trump... seriously.. he could make alot of dipshits actually pay attention.
And if they tune in just to see him dis Obama... sounds like a win win to me.

Not my favorite candidate but.. hell, he would be a million times better than Obama.

128 My guess is that people knew Barry "the commie" Soetoro not Barak Obama.

129 If Trump becomes President, he can follow Obama's lead and make Rosie the Secretary of State.

130 70

OK, new contest.

Try to name a presidential candidate so bad they'd make you cast a vote for Obama. Personally I'm drawing a blank.

Posted by: gebrauchshund at March 17, 2011 02:58 PM (iYwUw)

Barney Frank

131 @130, 
Joe Biden

Its thoughts like this that make me wonder if Obama is some kind of creepty super genius/actor/supreme alien being chess player who knew and idiot like Biden would keep him protected rather then him being such a clueless doofus couldnt spot that biden was also a clueless doofus.

132

Try to name a presidential candidate so bad they'd make you cast a vote for Obama. Personally I'm drawing a blank.

Bwarney Frank, Chuck U. Schumer, and Nancy Pelosi come to mind but at least they are americans....

133 Anthony Weiner.

134 I remember The Donald very well from kindergarten.  He was the only kid with a comb over.  At snack time, we all got half pints of vanilla milk.  He got chocolate.  And he kept telling all of us that we were fired.

135 Ace, what if Trump came out as a Goldwater conservative?

Huh?  How about that? 

136 If I felt like Trump understood the importance of limited government and that he head schooled himself on Goldwater v. Rockefeller conservatism--coming down on the side of Goldwater--I'd fight on the front lines for that guy.

137 I like dreaming.

138

18 We could do far, far worse then Donald Trump.

Bill Ayers

Jeremiah Wright

Al Sharpton

Jesse Jackson

139 When I get elected, I'm going to give K'Daffy five days to get out of Libya.

140 New contest.

Alan Colmes

141 His mother was a natural born American, so his physical birthplace is moot...  We do know that Barry Soetoro was not "raised" an American, and thus while "qualified"to be president, he is "unfit" to be anywhere near the WH....

142 Trump had two bankruptcies (chapter 11) for his casinos, which is more legit than individuals that just walk away from debt.  For his casinos, he instead was able to restructure debt. 

the third time he offered to buy the business, when the board refused he left.  They filed chapter 11 without him (though the place still had his name on it).

Everyone knows the troubles with trump (hair, marriage, ego, used to be Democrat, goofy celebrity at times) ... but if it takes a big name that might inspire a lot of reality TV crowd to win ... I'd take him over several others.

So far Trump says popular things.

We don't have to quit spending, we'll make other countries pay up.

 "Tariffs" on China for unfair trade.
 
Make S Korea pay for our military protection.

Make Iraq pay for our war there ... cost us a trillion, they have trillions of oil

Will rebuild our military

But he is a little short on details ... still ... I'll take him over Gingrich or Huckabee.

143 Simple: Trump wants to do a Bloomberg, nationally.

Bloomberg, a lifelong limousine liberal, ran up a Republican false flag and ran to the inside of the Democrats, but to the outside of the Republicans. He found the gap, and broke through.

Demos could vote for Bloomie because (nudge, wink) they knew he wasn't really a Republican. Republicans could vote for him because at least he was offering some fiscal conservatism and a somewhat-Republican governance.

It also allowed Bloomberg to dodge the NYC Demo machine, which grinds all non-Leftists to a powder. (They fielded Fernando Ferrer, who, after a career as a sorta reasonable Demo, came out firing the race-grievance cannons at the white folks and promising class warfare besides.)

Warning: Bloomerberg has governed as a nanny-state liberal, and has tightened the government's noose on the New York necks so much that even some Demos are complaining.

But Trump has watched Bloomers' three terms, and you can bet he's been taking notes.

144 She was too young by law to confer citizenship.

145 Paladino said he'd spend a shit ton to beat Cuomo, too, but these self-funding candidates act like the dog who caught the car once (if) they win the nom and are expected to put up. Usually, it does them no good, because money is only part of the equation. This means we have a weak field.

But I like the birther stuff he brings to the table. Since he has no record, he's either trying to paint Republicans as extremists, or there is a remote chance Obama won't be on the 2012 ballot.

146 Just ask yourself this. Who would make a better President. Donald Trump or Barack Obama?  Of course who would make a better President _________________or Barack Obama. Of course it would be _____________.

147

This is all Wikipedia but interesting:

On August 4, 1961, at the age of 18, Dunham gave birth to her first child, Barack Obama II. Friends in Washington State recall her visiting with her month-old baby in 1961. She took classes at the University of Washington from September 1961 to June 1962, and lived as a single mother in the Capitol Hill neighborhood of Seattle with her son while her husband continued his studies in Hawaii. When Obama Sr. graduated from the University of Hawaii in June 1962, he was offered a scholarship to study in New York City but he declined it, preferring to attend the more prestigious Harvard University. He left for Cambridge, Massachusetts, where he would begin graduate study at Harvard in the fall of 1962. Dunham returned to Honolulu and resumed her undergraduate education at the University of Hawaii with the spring semester in January 1963.

Follow me on this:

18 year old girl gets married in February of 1961.

Gives birth in Hawaii in August of 1961.

Goes to Washington state in September (where she lived as a small child) to study even though (a) she has a one-month old baby and (b) her husband, who she just married, is still in Hawaii, not to mention her parents.  Why the hell would she do this?  With just her and a tiny baby in tow?

She just got married and she's going to a place where she has no close family?  What the hell kind of nursing mother takes her month-old child on a plane trip to Washington in 1961?  Wasn't it expensive to boot?

Here's more reasonable speculation than Kenya: What if she moved to WA before Obama was born, staying with a sympathetic extended family member?  She took an unwise sojourn into Canada and gave birth there.

Still, I think it's more likely that Obama's BC was simply amended several times and he is just embarassed by having "aka Barry Soetoro" after his real name.

148 Demos could vote for Bloomie because (nudge, wink) they knew he wasn't really a Republican.

Now that he's as popular as road kill, they can bad mouth him as a Republican. "He hates teachers. He sold out to Wall Street and special interests." Bloomberg is so hated in this city, but Democrats are taking a hit. The economy is struggling, and Bloomberg was seen as stronger than Bill Thompson, a machine poll with an iffy record.

149 (a) she has a one-month old baby and

I heard an account somewhere that the baby was even younger and Stanley didn't seem to know how to feed or change it.

150 His mother was a natural born American, so his physical birthplace is moot...

Don't both parents have to be American, if he is born overseas?

151 Some of the other Obama bastards look like Barry Jr., so he's likely not Davis's son.

He looks a lot like FMD, though. Plus, that poem "Pop." Think about it. Frank knocks up Stanley. They want a dad for him, and Frank is already married and a family friend. Were there any political reasons she might have married the senior Obama? I figured he has a family and leaves them to take up with his new, pretty young white wife and their new baby? Why would he abandon them so soon unless he suspected it was not his baby and she had a lover?

152 I never thought we'd have a president with more daddy issues than Clinton.

153 93 You knocked that right out of the park.

154 I heard an account somewhere that the baby was even younger and Stanley didn't seem to know how to feed or change it.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at March 17, 2011 06:19 PM (mHQ7T)

Getting stuff about this guy is like pulling teeth.  I'm approximately where Ace is on this but I'm more interested in the media.  Shouldn't a journalist by definition at least be curious?  I'm curious.

In fact, of all the presidents we've ever had, isn't Obama's biography the most important?  Isn't he the one all black kids should strive to be like?  Isn't that what makes having the "first black president" so important?  If Bobby Jindal becomes president, nobody will say "Finally, Indian-Americans know they can make it in America."

155 Damn! Late to another birther thread.

156 In fact, of all the presidents we've ever had, isn't Obama's biography the most important?

Well, sure. That's why Dreams of My Father was such a success on so many levels, even though Obama apparently didn't write it.

157 At risk o being branded nutty, there isn't "lots" of evidence he was born here, and mixed up stories about it from.... OBAMA. Lots of people announce the birth of an infant in the city where it's important to people they know, not where there child was born/ If I have my baby in Sweden I will announce it in the US. My mother died in my town but her obit was in her hometown I don't GET why that is dispositive one way or the other. The thing that ought to be, isn't - and the document thats been distributed as proof could have been issued even if he was born elsewhere. So he doesn't want to settle the matter? THAT'S HIS PROBLEM.

158 Sarah, if you're still around, The best theory i've heard so far is that Obama was born in Washington State, or in Vancouver. Grandma Dunham filed for an "at home" birth registration. The newspaper ads were generated automatically from a list at the state office.

There is no listing for a child being born in the Hawaiian birth index for 1961 under the name "Obama", or "Dunham" or "Payne." (grandma's maiden name.)

Since we have documents from the University of Washington that say Stanley Ann was attending classes their 18 days after Obama was born, the most likely explanation is that she never left the area.

159 If Trump came out tomorrow and said "I'm a Goldwater conservative" and actually seemed to know what he was talking about--and to believe it.  Well.   We'd have another earthquake on our hands, 9.5 on the Richter Scale.

160

Since we have documents from the University of Washington that say Stanley Ann was attending classes their 18 days after Obama was born

I remember when that first came out.  People were speculating it was a correspondence course.

Here's a better example of the Obama slow roll of information: Bill Ayers.

I don't think anybody believes that Obama thought Bill Ayers was "just a guy in my neighborhood who teaches English".  We -- now -- have documented proof that they were the bestest of buds.

Of course the media will just say that Obama's lie is "old news".

161 Trump and I are first cousins on my dad's side.

162

I don't think anybody believes that Obama thought Bill Ayers was "just a guy in my neighborhood who teaches English".  We -- now -- have documented proof that they were the bestest of buds.Of course the media will just say that Obama's lie is "old news".

Posted by: AmishDude at March 17, 2011 07:45 PM (BvBKY)

It was claimed that it was a correspondence course, but some person pointed out that the University used a specific notation to designate a correspondence course, and that notation is absent from the document. In other words, it was an actual "in person" class.

Apart from that, blogger "Lame Cherry" (I think) has statements from a friend of Stanley Ann claiming that Stanley Ann was on Mercer Island within two weeks of the birth.

163 Found the link but the damn website is being difficult about letting me post it.

164 I'll try it again.

Nope, can't get it to work. Anyway, go to "Lame Cherry" and do a search on "Mercer Island", and the info will pop up.

165 "...but I still don't get how you have doubts he was born in the US when there is a fair amount of evidence that he was..."-Ace

As far as I know, he has not established where he was born- neither the hospital, nor the country. If I'm wrong, someone please correct me.

166

Apart from that, blogger "Lame Cherry" (I think) has statements from a friend of Stanley Ann claiming that Stanley Ann was on Mercer Island within two weeks of the birth.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 17, 2011 07:53 PM (/G5LI)

The UWash info is more solid.

But it stands to reason.  You don't make a HI-WA flight and then attend classes the next day.

167

The UWash info is more solid.

But it stands to reason.  You don't make a HI-WA flight and then attend classes the next day.

Posted by: AmishDude at March 17, 2011 08:21 PM (BvBKY)

Yes, the UWash pretty much establishes Stanley Ann in the Seattle area at that time, and the Friend's statement merely corroborates that. Lame Cherry has more information. (such as the Address Stanley Ann lived at) I was impressed with her (his?) sleuthing and reasoning.

168 Whether or not he was born here is debatable, that he should be president is not!

169

THOUGHT YOU WERE SMARTER ACE, ABUNDANT EVIDENCE HE WASN'T BORN HERE. YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVEN'T DONE YOUR HOMEWORK. SAD..YOU'D RATHER FOLLOW THE SHEEP.

 

170

Even though I'm not An Obo fan.....

It is my understanding that if your parent is an American citizen & you are born overseas, you can have duel citizenship. So, wouldnt he be a US citizen?

171 Heh.

172 Trump will only get my vote if he wins the nomination- otherwise he will get no support from me as I remember when he tried to evict a little old lady from her house of 50+ years just so he could expand his casino parking.

173 I think Donald Trump has a point there wheres OBAMAS birth certificate?

174

Here's Obama's explanation

http://tinyurl.com/4a22jlz

175 This post was not about the Donald.

It was about Ace

"I get the "nobody knows him" thing -- we don't know anything about Obama's college chums, most likely because they were hardcore radicals and it's all suppressed -- but I still don't get how you have doubts he was born in the US when there is a fair amount of evidence that he was and none -- like, none -- that he wasn't."

I saw what you did there.

The requirement is NOT that I, a birther, have to prove ONE TEENY DAMN THING!!

The requirement is on the moose-limb foreign citizen named l'il barry soetoro to PROVE he IS a citizen.

Stuff it.

176 Forget BirtherÂ… I am an EARTHER! I no longer believe Obama is from this planet.

177 How do you make a link shorter?  This system is not allowing me to post links on Trump because they are too long...

178

Wehres JIMMY HOHHA,WJERES OBAMAS BIRTH CERTIFICATE?

179 I wasn't a birther at first but the more I read the more I think this claim has merits.  Can any of you refute the issue surrounding his Selective Service form?  From what I have heard the form submitted appears to be fake as it has a tracking number on it from 2008.  That got my mind to wondering and now I have more questions about his birthplace. 

180 neither the hospital

There were two he mentioned. I always knew which hospital I was born in. It was the same where I had my tonsils removed, had stitches put in my left calf and had my broken right arm put in a cast.

181 Just wanted to say your Blog is in my rss you do magic on words .....