November 16, 2011

DOOM: A slight burning sensation
— Monty

DOOOOM

The so-called "Super Comittee" will fail, and markets will crash....? Maybe. Congress has a long and sordid history of waiting until the last minute to pretend that they did something while actually just deferring the problem to a future Congress. At some point this game must end, of course. We shall see.

Every province in China is Greece.

Larry Lang, chair professor of Finance at the Chinese University of Hong Kong, said in a lecture that he didn’t think was being recorded that the Chinese regime is in a serious economic crisis—on the brink of bankruptcy. In his memorable formulation: every province in China is Greece.
Emphasis mine. And the emphasized part is why IÂ’m inclined to believe it.

Europe already in recession...

...and itÂ’s likely to get worse before it gets better.

Detroit: the headsmanÂ’s axe falls in April.

Mayor Dave Bing and the City Council have said the solution lies in getting major concessions from reluctant labor unions and reducing the city's skyrocketing costs for retirees.

I predict that the unions will fight any cuts bitterly. Ultimately, and as always, itÂ’ll be the taxpayer who gets screwed -- in one way or another. And while this story is about Detroit, it could just as easily be about a thousand other towns and cities in this country.
Are we really lazy, as His Majesty intimates, or do our tax and regulation regimes drive businesses away?

The answer to increasing economic prosperity is not to figure out new ways to divide the pie; the answer is to make the whole pie bigger. But our current Emperor obviously is not keen on this idea; he prefers class warfare and a suffocating regulatory state. You'd think that after three years of abject failure he'd be open to some new ideas but...not so much.

Congress needs an insider-trading law. I was faintly surprised to discover that there wasn't one already. (Only "faintly" because the first imperative of lawmakers is to both protect and enrich themselves.)

Are you ready for a repeat of the 2008 meltdown? Take my advice: hope for the best but plan for the worst. Our government (and the Eurozone, and China, and...) has been using wishful-thinking as their operative plan ever since Obama took office, and we can see where that's gotten us. (On the other hand: this prediction is by the notorious Phil Angelides, who completely ignored the role Fannie and Freddie played in the 2008 crisis, so I'm not sure how concerned I should be.)

As the Eurozone falls apart in exactly the way many of us predicted more than a decade ago, Teh Krugman re-writes history to move the blame off of his beloved liberal welfare-state policies.

In his piece Mr Krugman also makes the astonishing claim that the doomed European Project was originally “cheered” by American conservatives but “questioned” by US liberals:

"The attempt to create a common European currency was one of those ideas that cut across the usual ideological lines. It was cheered on by American right-wingers, who saw it as the next best thing to a revived gold standard, and by Britain’s left, which saw it as a big step toward a social-democratic Europe. But it was opposed by British conservatives, who also saw it as a step toward a social-democratic Europe. And it was questioned by American liberals, who worried — rightly, I’d say (but then I would, wouldn’t I?) — about what would happen if countries couldn’t use monetary and fiscal policy to fight recessions."

I don’t recall “American right-wingers” cheering on the rise of the single currency, and the growth of a European superstate. Quite the opposite, in fact. British-style Euroscepticism has always been fashionable among US conservatives who have long admired Lady Thatcher’s views on Europe, but mocked and derided by the State Department and by the Left. American liberals in contrast have long been among the biggest supporters of the European Project. Witness the fawning Eurofederalism of the Obama administration as well as bastions of the ruling liberal elites such as The New York Times. Krugman is rewriting history now that the European model, beloved by East Coast liberals, is going down in flames.

I certainly was never a fan of the Euro project, and subsequent events have amply confirmed my skepticism. (This reminds me of that saying that success has a thousand fathers, but failure is always an orphan.)

Dr. Gloom's reform trilogy.

Rhode Island's meltdown continues. Vanguard or outlier? We'll see. (Also, WRM is catching DOOM fee-vah: "Because of its small size, inbred political system and collusive relationships between irresponsible union and political officials, Rhode Island is reaching the end of the road faster than many other places — but Rhode Island and its cities are not alone on the highway to doom." My new DOOM-cult grows acolytes apace.)

UPDATE 1: Via AllenG: we can add Fort Worth to the members' waiting-list for the LOTB.

UPDATE 2: Crippled by debt, European economy has slowed almost to a stop.

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The dreaded Couch Vampire attacks his next unlucky victim.


Posted by: Monty at 04:44 AM | Comments (324)
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1 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at November 16, 2011 04:46 AM (8y9MW)

2 Not sure if there's an article- I heard it on the radio, but you can add Fort Worth to the list of the boned.  Apparently they can't afford to replace street-lamps, and the natives are growing restless.

On the up side, Fort Worth is fairly conservative, and they just elected a conservative Mayor- one who would rather let street-lamps be dead for two or three nights, instead of raising taxes and/or fees or taking on more debt.  Maybe they'll get their fiscal house in order.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at November 16, 2011 04:50 AM (8y9MW)

3 The answer to increasing economic prosperity is not to figure out new ways to divide the pie; the answer is to make the whole pie bigger. Monty, you assume that the pie can be made bigger. That isn't always true.

Posted by: proudonkey at November 16, 2011 04:51 AM (NadeK)

4 In Krugmanworld (the NYT readership), all alternative realities converge into a single meta-narrative: Democrats are good and Republicans are bad.  Any lie he has to tell, any fact he has to spin, and any reality he has to revise is fine with the lot of them so long as they ultimately validate the meta-narrative.

Posted by: Rick Rombachcaingrichsman at November 16, 2011 04:52 AM (8/DeP)

5 wasn't the douche #3 banned at some point?

Posted by: GMan at November 16, 2011 04:53 AM (sxq57)

6

The so-called "Super Comittee" will fail, and markets will crash....?

 

As I said earlier, Harry wants it to fail

Land Deal Reid actually wants the shitty committee to fail

He gets a better deal if it fails. Thanks crying Boner and McConnell. Your deal making prowess is awesome.

And I hate those ugly hairless cats. They are unnatural.

Posted by: Vic at November 16, 2011 04:54 AM (YdQQY)

7

Europe already in recession...

Personally, I donÂ’t think we ever left recession.

Posted by: Vic at November 16, 2011 04:55 AM (YdQQY)

8 wasn't the douche #3 banned at some point?

If not he ought to be ... he's as pedestrian a troll as we've seen in some time.

Posted by: Rick Rombachcaingrichsman at November 16, 2011 04:56 AM (8/DeP)

9 The Super Failure Committee should fail.  Either that or we should just disband congress except for the Super Failure Committee.  That should save a few shekels.  Hell, the only governing that is going on now anyway is His Imperial SCOAMF Majesty's governing by decree anyway because congress has abdicated what little remaining power they had left after the Super Failure Committee's rise to power. 
The state of this country's politics right now, when there really needs to be some courageous action, is sickening at best.

Oh yeah.  Forget to mention - no budget for going on 4 years.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at November 16, 2011 04:56 AM (jx2j9)

10

The "supercomittee" is a gimick. Yet another bad idea that hides all transparency and accountability from the American people.

Democrats can only waste money and raise taxes so they can waste more. The left pockets what they can ala Nancy Pelosi and John Kerry. The best way for the democrat machine to commit its crimes is to encourage the formation of job-sucking unions - the democrat's money filtering graft machine. Rince and repeat. How anyone can vote for these creeps is beyond me.

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at November 16, 2011 04:57 AM (O7ksG)

11 Monty, you assume that the pie can be made bigger. That isn't always true.

Yes, dum-dum, it really is.

And the fact that you believe otherwise is a prime reason that you don't really understand how the economy works.

Or, to quote the greatest philosopher of any time, any where, "That is why you fail."

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at November 16, 2011 04:57 AM (8y9MW)

12 I predict that the unions will fight any cuts bitterly. Ultimately, and as always, itÂ’ll be the taxpayer who gets screwed -- in one way or another. And while this story is about Detroit, it could just as easily be about a thousand other towns and cities in this country.

Are there any taxpayers left in Detroit. The last I heard if it wasn't for direct infusions from the feds they would have gone under long ago.

Posted by: Vic at November 16, 2011 04:57 AM (YdQQY)

13 Monty, you assume that the pie can be made bigger. That isn't always true.

Asshole, you assume that economic fairness can ever be achieved by splitting up the pie evenly, regardless of how much the recipient of the pie has contributed.  That isn't ever true.

Posted by: wiserbud at November 16, 2011 04:59 AM (3Okgs)

14 Monty, you assume that the pie can be made bigger. That isn't always true.

The past five thousand years of human economic activity says that you're wrong.

Posted by: Monty at November 16, 2011 04:59 AM (/0a60)

15

Paul Krugman should be laughed off the statge. He's a leftwing stooge, a liar, and a pathetic pig.

 

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at November 16, 2011 04:59 AM (O7ksG)

16 You know, with the goings on in Congress (from the super-committee, to the fact they think it should be okay for them to trade on private information relating to legislation, but that it shouldn't be fine for others to trade on private information relating to upcoming business changes, and on and on), I think I'm beginning to get on board with the people pointing out that to make the Declaration of Independence relevant to today, you just have to change some names.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at November 16, 2011 04:59 AM (8y9MW)

17 I resent being singled out. There are plenty of other Democrat cesspools. Get a load of Philadelphia, Baltimore, Camden, Boston, Chicago, Newark, Cleveland, Los Angeles and San Francisco. Hey, at least we've got the Chevy Volt!

Posted by: Detroit at November 16, 2011 05:00 AM (rJVPU)

18 How could the Super Committee's failure have more than a minor, temporary impact on the markets?  It's unexpected things that cause the market to react.  The market took this failure into account from the beginning.  Only fools will be surprised.

Posted by: Strick at November 16, 2011 05:01 AM (7D4Cq)

19 Damn, is that what my cat looks like under all that fir?


Posted by: Retread at November 16, 2011 05:02 AM (O83kf)

20 This morning on NPR they were beating the Keynesian drum like it owed them money.  We should buy as much pie as we can before the credit card is declined.

Posted by: Bob Saget at November 16, 2011 05:02 AM (SDkq3)

21 The past five thousand years of human economic activity says that you're wrong.

Growth cannot continue in perpetuity. There has to be a limit. That's what bubbles are. Our current market correction kinda proves my point.

Posted by: proudonkey at November 16, 2011 05:03 AM (NadeK)

22 I just want to make sure that these cities and State going belly-up don't get bailed out by the States. We had to do severe cutbacks here for schools and such to balance the budget. Why should we then bail out Detroit?

Posted by: Vic at November 16, 2011 05:03 AM (YdQQY)

23 Only fools will be surprised.

You might be amazed to find the number of fools who own stocks.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at November 16, 2011 05:03 AM (8y9MW)

24 That is a freaky kitteh.

BTW can anyone recommend some tips for preparing a survival kit/"bunker" in the home?  Not paranoid whackjob stuff, just sensible things to keep on hand.

Posted by: chemjeff at November 16, 2011 05:04 AM (s7mIC)

25 How could the Super Committee's failure have more than a minor, temporary impact on the markets?

This morning they were talking another downgrade of U.S. debt if they failed. If that happens the market will tank. But it will tank just before the downgrade occurs.

But not to worry, Boner will make a "deal" and we'll get a tax increase.

Posted by: Vic at November 16, 2011 05:04 AM (YdQQY)

26 BTW can anyone recommend some tips for preparing a survival kit/"bunker" in the home?  Not paranoid whackjob stuff, just sensible things to keep on hand.

Whaddya need bunker for...zombies?

Posted by: proudonkey at November 16, 2011 05:05 AM (NadeK)

27 Wife just informed me that the Mother In Law will be here for Thanksgiving.

Hah, my MIL lives just down the road from me.

Posted by: Vic at November 16, 2011 05:06 AM (YdQQY)

28 Growth cannot continue in perpetuity. There has to be a limit. That's what bubbles are. Our current market correction kinda proves my point.

Actually, no it doesn't. The Great Depression was a much worse catastrophe than the one we're in, and yet our economy has grown by many orders of magnitude since then. Our economic growth is not linear -- organic growth never is -- but it is constant. There is an upper limit governed by things like energy usage, raw materials, etc., but we are far, far from that point. If we collapse, it won't be due to a failure of the market-driven economic model; it'll be due to pure political fuckery.

Posted by: Monty at November 16, 2011 05:06 AM (/0a60)

29 I read an interview with Dave Bing not too long ago ... can't say that I give a shit about Detroit, but I wondered how an ex-NBA player wound up mayor of such a dump.  Anyway, he's made it big in business since those days and is now taking only $1 / year in salary while he tries to turn the place around.  He said that one of the major problems is that the city itself is contractually obligated to pay over a dozen public union negotiators to negotiate against the city on behalf of those unions.  I'd say "unbelievable" but we all know it isn't.

I'm not sure why conservative politicians have such trouble articulating the case against public unions, but as a PSA of sorts here goes:

In a typical collective bargaining environment, the worker is deemed too powerless to effectively compete in individual negotiations against management and their lawyers, who in turn represent the monied interests of ownership; thus, the law permits unionization of workers so that they can be better represented against management through collective bargaining.

In the public union model, however, the workers (employees) instead cooperate with management (bureaucratic government officials who want ever-growing and therefore progressively better funded departments) to work against the interests of ownership (the taxpayers) and extract ever-larger amounts of money from public coffers.

Posted by: Rick Rombachcaingrichsman at November 16, 2011 05:09 AM (8/DeP)

30 so Monty is actually an optimist in disguise...who'd thunk!

Posted by: proudonkey at November 16, 2011 05:10 AM (NadeK)

31 He said that one of the major problems is that the city itself is contractually obligated to pay over a dozen public union negotiators to negotiate against the city on behalf of those unions.

Well, Obama has shown that the government can willfully violate contracts. Let them have at it.

Posted by: Vic at November 16, 2011 05:11 AM (YdQQY)

32 Hrrrrrnnghhh. Huannnnnnnnnhhhhhh. Hehhhhuhhhhhhh...

Look! I made a bm in the corner! All by myself!

Posted by: drouponkey at November 16, 2011 05:12 AM (rfYZs)

33 can anyone recommend some tips for preparing a survival kit

Go back to basics.  The one thing, the absence of which will cause death fastest is.... air.

Posted by: Bob Saget at November 16, 2011 05:12 AM (SDkq3)

34 BTW can anyone recommend some tips for preparing a survival kit/"bunker" in the home?

I think it's been mentioned several times, but you can really go to the CDC website (I think) and they've got a list.  You'll want things like potable water, non perishable foodstuffs (some people swear by MREs or whatever they're called today), some method to cook (a small pot and pan, some manner of generating heat), if you can get one, an emergency generator and plenty of fuel for it, and some way to generate light (lamps/lanterns, flashlights, whatever).  For the inevitable societal collapse, you'll also want some method of self protection.  If it can double as hunting gear, so much the better.  I would also recommend the old versions of either (both) the Army Field Guide and the Boy Scout Handbook.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at November 16, 2011 05:13 AM (8y9MW)

35

Detroit: the headsman's axe falls in April.

Did any journolistes ever axe the Mittster about his boyhood home being torn down?

http : // tinyurl . com / 78wad4m


 

Posted by: Sasha -N- Malia at November 16, 2011 05:14 AM (Bjf6P)

36 To add to my list: don't forget first-aid supplies.  Bandages, alcohol, and so forth.  If you've got the time, sometimes you can find classes in emergency aid (closer to what paramedics do than basic first aid- so you can learn to do some basic stitches and such).  Don't forget the staples, duct tape, and super-glue.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at November 16, 2011 05:16 AM (8y9MW)

37 I'm glad to see someone managed to snap a pic of Pelosi before the makeup guys worked her over for her famous photoshoot with Newt.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 16, 2011 05:17 AM (ENKCw)

38 There are still people who work and pay tax in Detroit?  I thought they ran those 'lazy' people out of town a long time ago, and were left with hardworking but non-tax-paying foodstamp recipients.  Will miracles never cease?

Posted by: Mo at November 16, 2011 05:17 AM (d39AP)

39

I'm not sure a failure of the sooper-dooper committee is such a big deal.  Ultimately its failure will simply mean greater monitization of debt, and some inflation resulting from that.  Stocks should go up, not down. 

In terms of stock values, I would be more worried if the committee succeeded.  Massive austerity measures will hit the economy hard.  Frankly, while I believe we need a smaller government that does far fewer things, I'd rather see some inflation than a crash. 

Posted by: Reactionary at November 16, 2011 05:19 AM (xUM1Q)

40

Rhode Island

Traditionally, R.I. has had one of the highest abortion rates and one of the lowest fertility rates of any state in the nation.

Like a microcosm of the European experience.

 

Posted by: Sasha -N- Malia at November 16, 2011 05:19 AM (Bjf6P)

41 Massive austerity measures will hit the economy hard.

Bullshit.

Posted by: Calvin Coolidge at November 16, 2011 05:20 AM (8/DeP)

42 Dum-dum, maybe we can explain economics to you in a comic book analogy. Would that help?

Posted by: nickless, back with the banned (99.174.64.43) at November 16, 2011 05:21 AM (cBVAS)

43 Massive austerity measures will hit the economy hard.

I disagree.  Actual austerity measures, targeted at things like really reducing the size and scope of government, will free up capital that is currently tied up in things like compliance (with redundant and/or unnecessary regulation), and lobbying (why lobby when there isn't a department for what you want to do, anymore?) and lead to growth pretty quickly.

You might be right that the first thing to happen would be a contraction, but I suspect that would be very, very short lived.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at November 16, 2011 05:22 AM (8y9MW)

44 That's "Enron Advisor Paul Krugman." Never forget.

Also, did you all see how Perry proposed making Congress a part-time gig?

Posted by: Heman Cain at November 16, 2011 05:22 AM (nYiez)

45

I, too, have felt the mad temptation to build a survival bunker, but then when I calmed down and reflected on that idea I realized that it would be a fool's errand.  It's a little like planning for nuclear war.  If things really crashed hard, such that survival bunkers would be useful, it would be better to die in the opening phase of the disaster.  An easier and more merciful contingency plan would be to simply practice pulling a shot gun trigger with your toe. 

Posted by: Reactionary at November 16, 2011 05:23 AM (xUM1Q)

46 Frankly, while I believe we need a smaller government that does far fewer things, I'd rather see some inflation than a crash.

The problem is that you never get just a "little" inflation. And once the money-printing train is out of the station, it is pure hell to get it stopped again. Austerity may be no fun, but they call it a "bubble" for a reason: it must deflate to reflect reality again. You can't keep pumping air and pretend it's actual wealth.

Posted by: Monty at November 16, 2011 05:23 AM (/0a60)

47 well w/ Giffords' husband being a whiny bitch maybe folks on the right can look depper into her past and see she isn't the nice moderate we were all lead to believe she was

Posted by: AuthorLMendez Is Down To Romney Or Newt at November 16, 2011 05:25 AM (yAor6)

48

Yeah, here is Perry's plan

The way Fox described it this morning it wasn’t “red meat”, it was “raw meat”. Of course they think he is crazy.

Posted by: Vic at November 16, 2011 05:26 AM (YdQQY)

49 Growth cannot continue in perpetuity. There has to be a limit. That's what bubbles are. Our current market correction kinda proves my point.

Libs typically believe history only began about two years ago, so whatever is true today will be true forever.

The myopic mindset of Puncheddonkey is sadly typical of our ruling class today; they don't really believe economic growth is "sustainable," and long for a return to something more Feudal, where the peasants were poor and knew their place.

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at November 16, 2011 05:27 AM (PLvLS)

50 well w/ Giffords' husband being a whiny bitch

Was he the fucktard who blamed the shooting on the right wing, or was that his brother?

Fuck him with a rusty barge pole. He's a political wife and every inch a political flack. He'd scream about Boehner exploiting his wife and intruding if he did exactly what he's blaming him for not doing.

Posted by: nickless, back with the banned (99.174.64.43) at November 16, 2011 05:27 AM (cBVAS)

51 22 Damn, is that what my cat looks like under all that fir? I'll show you what a cat looks like under fir. Eh?

Posted by: Canadian Lumberjack at November 16, 2011 05:27 AM (SgLsM)

52 Growth cannot continue in perpetuity. There has to be a limit. That's what bubbles are. Our current market correction kinda proves my point. What a fucking idiot. Look up GDP in 1900. Compare it to GDP now. Which number is bigger, dumbshit? Your problem is that you are completely ignorant of basic financial or economic principles. You rebel at the notion that wealth can be created. We might as well be talking about fucking magic, as far as you're concerned. Tell me, you fucking simpleton - how big is the cell-phone market? Billions? Does that sound about right? Guess what, dummy? That industry was CREATED during my lifetime. Ditto personal computers. The fucking PIE got BIGGER.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at November 16, 2011 05:28 AM (XE2Oo)

53 The way Fox described it this morning it wasn’t “red meat”, it was “raw meat”. Of course they think he is crazy.

It's stuff like this from Perry that keeps me on his side.  Like I said yesterday- it'll never happen, but if he honestly pursues it, we might see the first real reduction in government in 60+ years.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at November 16, 2011 05:28 AM (8y9MW)

54 Growth cannot continue in perpetuity. There has to be a limit. That's what bubbles are. Our current market correction kinda proves my point.

Not true, the real estate and student loan bubbles were caused by the Fed getting involved in the free market. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were last-stop loan shop, they turned into the holder-of-all loans. Student loans are the same.

Don't mistake the free market with the morass we have now.

Posted by: The Robot Devil at November 16, 2011 05:28 AM (84oau)

55 'Bubbles' are less growth than they are cancers-- they're growing beyond their real value, and are usually driven by artificial influences, like government meddling.

Posted by: nickless, back with the banned (99.174.64.43) at November 16, 2011 05:29 AM (cBVAS)

56

Yeah, here is Perry's plan

The way Fox described it this morning it wasn’t “red meat”, it was “raw meat”. Of course they think he is crazy.

Posted by: Vic at November 16, 2011 09:26 AM (YdQQY)

The status quo, we reside, and you retort

Posted by: Faux News at November 16, 2011 05:30 AM (FIDMq)

57 BTW can anyone recommend some tips for preparing a survival kit/"bunker" in the home?

My church is pretty big on this sort of thing. There are actually warehouses filled with supplies and plans in place to make sure Mormons survive any social apocalypse. I imagine it will be pretty much us and the biker gangs led by the Humungous. 

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at November 16, 2011 05:30 AM (PLvLS)

58 I disagree. Actual austerity measures, targeted at things like really reducing the size and scope of government, will free up capital that is currently tied up in things like compliance (with redundant and/or unnecessary regulation), and lobbying (why lobby when there isn't a department for what you want to do, anymore?) and lead to growth pretty quickly.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at November 16, 2011 09:22 AM (8y9MW)

 

I agree with the principle of what you're saying, in that significant deregulation is necessary and LONG overdue.  It would help cut the budget deficit through increased revenue.  But I don't think that deregulation is really the kind of austerity we're likely to see.  What I think we'll see is more squeezing of the actual legitimate functions of government, while leaving all the burdensome regs in place.  I've not heard of any of the Europeans who have finally (reluctantly) started embracing austerity taking the smart approach.  They leave the junk, the economy-killers, in place.

Oh - and as for the lobbying component, I fear that spending would simply be re-directed toward congress itself.

Posted by: Reactionary at November 16, 2011 05:30 AM (xUM1Q)

59 Traditionally, R.I. has had one of the highest abortion rates and one of the lowest fertility rates of any state in the nation.

I've got a relative who lives there and he and his wife are as batshit crazy leftists as you'll find anywhere on the planet.

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at November 16, 2011 09:23 AM (vbh31)

D+11 in that state, 63% for Obama in 2008 which was the best performance for a Dem running for Prez since Humphrey got 64% of the vote in 1968

Posted by: AuthorLMendez Is Down To Romney Or Newt at November 16, 2011 05:31 AM (yAor6)

60 In this rural area the greatest zombie apocalypse fear is that the county government will be unable to provide fire fighting services and the area will be ravaged by wildfire.  You can take measures to protect your property from fire but lacking a solution for extracting breathable air from the smoke is why I haven't yet bothered to stockpile huge quantities of food, water, etc.

Posted by: Bob Saget at November 16, 2011 05:31 AM (SDkq3)

61 On the bright side: US reveals its new bunker-buster bombs Iran might want to take the hint: Pentagon report says US Air Force has taken delivery of new 30,000-pound bomb capable of penetrating deeply buried enemy targets, built to fit B-2 stealth bomber

Posted by: nevergiveup at November 16, 2011 05:32 AM (i6RpT)

62 Don't mistake the free market with the morass we have now.

True. Leftists have embraced the nutty idea that banks get rich by loaning money to people who can't pay it back. Loaning money to deadbeats is not a choice that would be made in a capitalist system. Which is why 1. Government mandated banks to make bad loans and 2. Socialized the losses from bad loans.

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at November 16, 2011 05:32 AM (PLvLS)

63 Iran might want to take the hint: Pentagon report says US Air Force has taken delivery of new 30,000-pound bomb capable of penetrating deeply buried enemy targets, built to fit B-2 stealth bomber

uhhhm, penetrating deeply, Marge

Posted by: Homer J. Simpson at November 16, 2011 05:34 AM (84oau)

64 Of course they think he is crazy.

Posted by: Vic at November 16, 2011 09:26 AM

Count me in on Teh Crazy, then. This is the best idea I've heard in a long damn time.

Of course I hope he refines it a bit. Delineate some basic duties Congress MUST perform -- like, you know, passing a budget -- and eliminate their freedom from obeying the laws that apply to mere mortals. Then we might have "servants of the people" in office....

Can you imagine The Newt or Mutt Romney saying what Perry said? Me neither.

Posted by: MrScribbler at November 16, 2011 05:34 AM (HkOAc)

65 In the end, we have to stop the MALINVESTMENT that is going on. I tend to agree somewhat with Reactionary in that I think an inflationary "soft crash" is best - it won't be handled well, but then nothing is. One way or another, the malinvestment we've been stupidly doing for the past 9 years has to end. It will either be ugly or really fucking ugly.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 16, 2011 05:35 AM (SB0V2)

66 Waking up to a proud-dumdum smackdown is most excellent.  Kinda makes the Dooooom more bearable.

Circus freaks, carnies, ventriloquist dummies and hairless cats.  Stuff nightmares are made of.

Posted by: Lady in Black : still voting Perry at November 16, 2011 05:35 AM (ycuSb)

67

Was he the fucktard who blamed the shooting on the right wing, or was that his brother?

if I remember correct that was her bitchy father OH and Giffords tried to stir up stories that the right wing was after her after she voted for Obamacare. if anyone saw her video to her district I would argue she has no mental capacity to represent that district much less run for Senate

Posted by: AuthorLMendez Is Down To Romney Or Newt at November 16, 2011 05:36 AM (yAor6)

68 Can you imagine The Newt or Mutt Romney saying what Perry said? Me neither.

Newt and Mutt are birds of a feather. Only Newt isn't a gun grabber.

Posted by: Vic at November 16, 2011 05:36 AM (YdQQY)

69 Meanwhile, Perry is in Iowa, Romney is in South Carolina, and Cain is in . . . Wisconsin.

Even Hillbuzz has realized Cain is only running for Vice President--like Biden and Edwards. Who, oddly enough, split the vote just enough to give Obama the win.
They have an entry on several well-experienced people who have been trying everything they can to get in contact with Cain's staff to volunteer  in Iowa and: Nothing.

I'm seriously thinking it's time to move my prediction for Cain's endorsement of Romney to March 1, 2012, rather than by March 31, 2012.

Posted by: Jimmuy at November 16, 2011 05:36 AM (3uRxm)

70 Rhode Island really shouldn't be its own state. It's just a suburb of CT anyways

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 16, 2011 05:36 AM (SB0V2)

71 72 On the bright side:

US reveals its new bunker-buster bombs
Iran might want to take the hint: Pentagon report says US Air Force has taken delivery of new 30,000-pound bomb capable of penetrating deeply buried enemy targets, built to fit B-2 stealth bomber

Posted by: nevergiveup at November 16, 2011 09:32 AM (i6RpT)

Heh...heh heh heh....penetrating....heh heh heh!

Posted by: Beavis at November 16, 2011 05:38 AM (DrWcr)

72 The administration faced a slight technical problem with its "90% of the guns in Mexico come from the US" lie. The problem was that guns purchased in the US from legit dealers are much more expensive than guns bought in Mexico on the black market. A semi auto AK-47 in the US is about $400 while a full auto black market AK in Mexico is about $75.

Even though Fast and Furious was ready to open up sales to the Mexican cartels there was no reason for them to buy. This means the feds had to subsidize the sales for the Cartels to have any reason to buy US guns.

If you look on page 16 of the stimulus bill you will find $10,000,000 to the ATF - as an economic stimulus you understand. This is how the guns were paid for by the straw purchasers. That directly involves the White House in the operation. Because of the money issue there is absolutely zero chance that this was a rogue operation run by underlings in the ATF or DOJ - as such underlings would not have had access to the subsidy funds necessary to run the operation. The White House asked for the funds;  the White House knew about the operation.

Follow the money and things become clear.

Posted by: An Observation at November 16, 2011 05:39 AM (ylhEn)

73

He said that one of the major problems is that the city itself is contractually obligated to pay over a dozen public union negotiators to negotiate against the city on behalf of those unions.

Sounds familiar, hmmm.  Oh yeah!  Like being ordered by the Family Law Court judge to pay the ex-wife's divorce lawyer for the Jerry Sandusky therapy services he applied to you on her behalf.

 

 

 

Too soon?

Posted by: Count de Monet, Kill it with fire at November 16, 2011 05:41 AM (4q5tP)

74 Rhode Island really shouldn't be its own state.

It's just a suburb of CT anyways

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 16, 2011 09:36 AM (SB0V2)

well Obama is polling better in CT then RI, which shows how farther to the left CT is headed

Posted by: AuthorLMendez Is Down To Romney Or Newt at November 16, 2011 05:41 AM (yAor6)

75 Newt and Mutt are birds of a feather. Only Newt isn't a gun grabber.

Posted by: Vic at November 16, 2011 09:36 AM (YdQQY)

and they actually have a shot at the nomination, there's that...

Posted by: AuthorLMendez Is Down To Romney Or Newt at November 16, 2011 05:42 AM (yAor6)

76 The problem is that you never get just a "little" inflation. And once the money-printing train is out of the station, it is pure hell to get it stopped again. Austerity may be no fun, but they call it a "bubble" for a reason: it must deflate to reflect reality again. You can't keep pumping air and pretend it's actual wealth.

Posted by: Monty at November 16, 2011 09:23 AM (/0a60)

 

That may be true, but it's not like we have money-supply driven inflation now at any significant rate.  We're still well below the average rate for the 1980's.  We have massive under-utilization of manufacturing capacity and human resources.  Note that I do not deny price increases in food and energy, but since those are a world wide phenomenon and have clearly identifiable causes (universally increasing demand) I don't think it's correct to tie those cost increases to inflationary mechanisms.

There is a lot of fear of a hyperinflationary scenario, but when you look at all of those that have happened since 1900, all have been created by either social upheaval, debts denominated in foreign currency, or a mix of both.  Zimbabwe and Weimar are examples of this.  So far we don't have those. 

If we cut the deficit to near-zero too quickly, I contend that the cure might be worse than the disease.  20% un/under-employment is bad enough.  I don't know what the magic number is for things to start coming unglued, but I do know that I don't want to find out. 

 

Posted by: Reactionary at November 16, 2011 05:42 AM (xUM1Q)

77

Monty, you assume that the pie can be made bigger. That isn't always true.

School us Prouddonkey: why would the entire history of civilization prosperity growth suddenly be "unreproducable" in your reality?

Here's a hint before you start: virtually EVERY impediment to productivity growth is man-made.

Now go 'head and teach us. We'll listen while you make shit up to justify your feelings.

Posted by: MrObvious at November 16, 2011 05:42 AM (2uovW)

78 86 I'm mostly kidding. I'd like to consolidate some of those teensy states up there. And DE can join Philly and South Jersey and make their own new stupid state, and then PA won't suck as hard! I have my little dreams

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 16, 2011 05:42 AM (SB0V2)

79 Chemjeff, you want to start with medical support, like a young philipino or polish nurse on an internship, then move on to booze, heat, water, and food.

Posted by: Jean at November 16, 2011 05:42 AM (ilc7b)

80 Rhode Island should be given to the Navy

Posted by: nevergiveup at November 16, 2011 05:43 AM (i6RpT)

81 3 The answer to increasing economic prosperity is not to figure out new ways to divide the pie; the answer is to make the whole pie bigger.

Monty, you assume that the pie can be made bigger. That isn't always true.<<<proudonkey

Actually, it is.

Posted by: Kerry at November 16, 2011 05:44 AM (a/VXa)

82 And DE can join Philly and South Jersey and make their own new stupid state, and then PA won't suck as hard!

I have my little dreams

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 16, 2011 09:42 AM (SB0V2)

well no matter what cat lady would like you to think, a lot of New Yorkers ive met want New York City to become it's own state to get better election results

Posted by: AuthorLMendez Is Down To Romney Or Newt at November 16, 2011 05:44 AM (yAor6)

83

Wife just informed me that the Mother In Law will be here for Thanksgiving.

 

Zombies again!!!!

Posted by: MrObvious at November 16, 2011 05:45 AM (2uovW)

84 Mr. Mendez - put Manhattan with LI and you'd have a hell of a new conservative state. lower boros join North Jersey to make a new state - "Gumbanistan" I'm thinking of a name for SJersey/DE/Philly - "Smellginia?"

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 16, 2011 05:45 AM (SB0V2)

85 One way or another, the malinvestment we've been stupidly doing for the past 9 years has to end.

It will either be ugly or really fucking ugly.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 16, 2011 09:35 AM (SB0V2)

 

I'm such a bitch, ain't I?

Posted by: Looming Wall of Reality at November 16, 2011 05:47 AM (4q5tP)

86 a lot of New Yorkers ive met want New York City to become it's own state to get better election results Posted by: AuthorLMendez Is Down To Romney Or Newt at November 16, 2011 09:44 AM (yAor6) New York City, Philly, Trenton, Camden, and Bridgeport should form their own State. Shit give em their own country

Posted by: nevergiveup at November 16, 2011 05:47 AM (i6RpT)

87 East Providence RI isn't in receivership. Yet. They are in the first stage - a financial overseer is appointed with veto power over the budget. Some good news - the Providence Community Action Program leaders have been fired, for that most Democratic of sins, sweetheart financial deals diverting money from their programs. The current mayor is none too happy about the gutless little wimp he succeeded when said wimp replaced Patches Kennedy (Drunk, RI). The Repubs may run an Iraq vet for the Cong seat and he may win. But, yeah, most municipalities will still be boned, despite a measure to reduce pension debt by 40% or more that looks like it will pass. Because there still is that other 60% unaddressed.

Posted by: chuckR at November 16, 2011 05:48 AM (UGxsK)

88 OT - app. I won a Bahamas vaction from a contest I entered

Posted by: AuthorLMendez Is Down To Romney Or Newt at November 16, 2011 05:49 AM (yAor6)

89 100 - REALLY?!?!? wow! Awesome!

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 16, 2011 05:50 AM (SB0V2)

90 That's not very Doomy, Mr Mendez.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 16, 2011 05:50 AM (SB0V2)

91 That's not very Doomy, Mr Mendez.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 16, 2011 09:50 AM (SB0V2)

well it might be too good to be true so there's that...

Posted by: AuthorLMendez Is Down To Romney Or Newt at November 16, 2011 05:50 AM (yAor6)

92 What a story.....
(watch the video it's fascinating)

Posted by: sky at November 16, 2011 05:51 AM (oZfic)

93

Sharyl Attkisson is CBS News' "Follow the Money" and Investigative Correspondent. She has received several awards including Investigative Emmy's for her exclusive reports on the bank bailout and the Red Cross. She is one of the few journalists to have flown in a B-52 on a combat mission in Kosovo, and in an F-15 fighter jet Combat Air Patrol flight. Attkisson is a third degree black belt in TaeKwonDo, now working on her fourth degree.

Posted by: An Observation at November 16, 2011 05:51 AM (ylhEn)

94 wow author! congratulations!

Posted by: phoenixgirl ready to drink the perry flavor-aid..can i get a different flavor? at November 16, 2011 05:51 AM (SH3gZ)

95 ugh.......... cut n paste.....cut n paste....lookie at this link!

Posted by: phoenixgirl ready to drink the perry flavor-aid..can i get a different flavor? at November 16, 2011 05:52 AM (SH3gZ)

96 wow author! congratulations!

Posted by: phoenixgirl ready to drink the perry flavor-aid..can i get a different flavor? at November 16, 2011 09:51 AM (SH3gZ)

they want me to claim it before Monday and i'll have 18 months to take the cruise. if it all checks out to be legit, It'll be the best trip I ever took to the local chinese restaraunt

Posted by: AuthorLMendez Is Down To Romney Or Newt at November 16, 2011 05:53 AM (yAor6)

97

Posted by: sky at November 16, 2011 09:51 AM (oZfic)

we dont need no porn links cat lady

Posted by: AuthorLMendez Is Down To Romney Or Newt at November 16, 2011 05:54 AM (yAor6)

98 Once again.. the Super Committee is pointless.. no future Congress will be held to any commitments made by this committee.  So amke adealthat appears resonable to voters and be done with it.

If we win next year, it will all be thrown out anyway.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 16, 2011 05:55 AM (f9c2L)

99  ugh..........

cut n paste.....cut n paste....lookie at this link!

Posted by: phoenixgirl ready to drink the perry flavor-aid..can i get a different flavor? at November 16, 2011 09:52 AM (SH3gZ)

so much for being the brave curious who was fighting the meanies w/ folks who emailed her telling her not to give up. so much for being the brave curious who would expose our personal lives if we kept calling her a troll, yet it needs to change hashes and nics

oh and curious you're doing it wrong. be like dum-dum, get banned first THEN come back w/ a new hash and a new nic

Posted by: AuthorLMendez Is Down To Romney Or Newt at November 16, 2011 05:56 AM (yAor6)

100 If we win next year, it will all be thrown out anyway.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 16, 2011 09:55 AM (f9c2L)

w/ how stupid this country and the GOP can be i'm beggining to question if we can win next year for the first time, take that in your DOOM pipe and smoke it

Posted by: AuthorLMendez Is Down To Romney Or Newt at November 16, 2011 05:57 AM (yAor6)

101 Did you guys see this?  (NRO Corner)

Herman Cain, who met with Henry Kissinger earlier this month to discuss foreign policy, told the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel that he asked Kissinger to be his secretary of state if he was elected. Kissinger declined.

Posted by: Y-not at November 16, 2011 05:57 AM (5H6zj)

102 ynot...... wow.....why would cain think kissinger would be in any kind of shape for that position?

Posted by: phoenixgirl ready to drink the perry flavor-aid..can i get a different flavor? at November 16, 2011 05:59 AM (SH3gZ)

103 Herman Cain, who met with Henry Kissinger earlier this month to discuss foreign policy, told the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel that he asked Kissinger to be his secretary of state if he was elected. Kissinger declined. Posted by: Y-not at November 16, 2011 09:57 AM (5H6zj) I would expect no less from a Foreign Policy maven like Cain

Posted by: nevergiveup at November 16, 2011 05:59 AM (i6RpT)

104

Posted by: Y-not at November 16, 2011 09:57 AM (5H6zj)

but Rush vows he's awesome and all that!

in a month we'll be asking ourselves how we could have ever flirted w/ a Cain nomination

Posted by: AuthorLMendez Is Down To Romney Or Newt at November 16, 2011 05:59 AM (yAor6)

105 Monty, you assume that the pie can be made bigger. That isn't always true. Posted by: proudonkey at November 16, 2011 08:51 AM (NadeK) You are right - under Obama rules, the pie gets smaller.

Posted by: blaster at November 16, 2011 06:00 AM (Fw2Gg)

106 >>You are right - under Obama rules, the pie gets smaller.

No, under Obama it's a moose turd pie. 

Posted by: Y-not at November 16, 2011 06:00 AM (5H6zj)

107 Ah, Moose Turd Pie. Used to tell that joke down at the bar.

Posted by: Vic at November 16, 2011 06:02 AM (YdQQY)

108 speaking of pie....keep your damn hands out of mine......i'm the only one who should determine with whom i will share it and i'm the only on who should determine how much i will share.......

Posted by: phoenixgirl ready to drink the perry flavor-aid..can i get a different flavor? at November 16, 2011 06:02 AM (SH3gZ)

109 Maybe "sky" (nee curious) is Jerry Sandusky?

Posted by: dagny at November 16, 2011 06:02 AM (/EyLO)

110

speaking of pie....keep your damn hands out of mine......

well damn Im not single so i'm not allowed to touch so excusssssssse me

?!

wait, what kind of pie were you talking about?

Posted by: AuthorLMendez Is Down To Romney Or Newt at November 16, 2011 06:03 AM (yAor6)

111

w/ how stupid this country and the GOP can be i'm beggining to question if we can win next year for the first time, take that in your DOOM pipe and smoke it

Posted by: AuthorLMendez
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No argument here..

That said.. the GOP leadership is walking a fine line.. the base wants them to be pro-active and do all kinds of radical crap - but they have absolutely no power to do so.  They can't pass a thing on their own.. they can only block.

At the same time, they are also trying to get elected in enough numbers next year to retain the House and also take control of the Senate.. all while taking the White House.

We've seen in Ohio what overreaching can do..

I say they should just keep their heads down, pass a mediocre agreement to get us through the next election, and then we can take care of things properly.

I am leaning more and more towards Romney as the guy who can do it.  He is the only one in the bunch who has shown he can stand to to toe with Obama in a debate and decimate him with the facts of his failures.  I like Perry, but I don't think he has it in him.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 16, 2011 06:04 AM (f9c2L)

112 Maybe "sky" (nee curious) is Jerry Sandusky?

Posted by: dagny at November 16, 2011 10:02 AM (/EyLO)

curious/cankerous/suprised/cain supporter/sky has to be an OWS type, she dissapeared at it's height

Posted by: AuthorLMendez Is Down To Romney Or Newt at November 16, 2011 06:05 AM (yAor6)

113 '“It is an ‘Animal House.’ It’s a food fight,” said Kenneth Duberstein, a chief of staff to President Ronald Reagan. “Honestly, the Republican debates have become a reality show. People have to be perceived as being capable of governing this country, of being the leader of the free world.”'

Posted by: sky at November 16, 2011 06:05 AM (oZfic)

114 In settlement of debts, Germany should simply take possession a the more accessible and pretty Greek vacation islands. Keep the local staff so they can continue to fund their own retirement programs.

Posted by: Michael Rittenhouse at November 16, 2011 06:07 AM (2Oas0)

115

in a month we'll be asking ourselves how we could have ever flirted w/ a Cain nomination

Posted by: AuthorLMendez Is Down To Romney Or Newt at November 16, 2011 09:59 AM

More likely, in a month, people will wake up and wonder why they ever boosted The Newt, who historically has never been the conservative people think he is and is a fatcat D.C. insider to boot, or Mutt Romney, who has won a single elective office, handled it badly, and has little else but good hair to recommend him.

It's looking more and more as if Perry should be the pick -- to me, anyway. Even if Cain were to be totally free of slip-ups, marginal ideas and made-up "scandals" from now on, he has been torpedoed by the "conservative" punditry. And they never give anyone a second chance. Except for The Newt and Mutt, that is.

Posted by: MrScribbler at November 16, 2011 06:07 AM (HkOAc)

116

I am leaning more and more towards Romney as the guy who can do it.  He is the only one in the bunch who has shown he can stand to to toe with Obama in a debate and decimate him with the facts of his failures.  I like Perry, but I don't think he has it in him.

exactly where i'm at. I just wish Romney would stop w/ the embarassing flip-flops and his bots wouldn't be such dicks to an undecided like me, I LOVE Perry and defend him vigirously when my brother goes off about him being a racist bigot but I think Obama can beat him at this point and I want Obama gone

Posted by: AuthorLMendez Is Down To Romney Or Newt at November 16, 2011 06:07 AM (yAor6)

117

It's looking more and more as if Perry should be the pick -- to me, anyway

you folks are still hoping for that comeback? I'm sick and tired of being sick and tired of waiting for it. it's down to Newt or Mitt for me - two guys I had no clue i'd be down to a year ago

Posted by: AuthorLMendez Is Down To Romney Or Newt at November 16, 2011 06:08 AM (yAor6)

118 I am leaning more and more towards Romney as the guy who can do it.  He is the only one in the bunch who has shown he can stand to to toe with Obama in a debate and decimate him with the facts of his failures.
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I honestly am curious on what are you basing this belief. 

I understand that Romney's debate performances have been for the most part without mistakes, but I have not gotten the sense that he's hit any home runs in them.  So let's say he's a solid debater.  So what?  Has Romney ever fought this administration?  What makes you think he will take Obama on in the general when he's never done so before? 

Posted by: Y-not at November 16, 2011 06:08 AM (5H6zj)

119 From the latest Thomas Sowell column at Townhall:

"There has probably never been a time in the history of this country when we more urgently needed to get a president out of the White House, before he ruined the country."

He goes on to talk about the very real possibility of Obama being elected, despite the terrible economic conditions.  Much like FDR, Obama has gained many supporters-in-need through his welfare state:

"We may lament the number of people who are unemployed or who are on food stamps today. But those who give the Obama administration credit for coming to their rescue when they didn't have a job are likely to greatly outnumber those who blame the administration for their not having a job in the first place."

So, while it's easy to hope that the high unemployment and dismal economic conditions would surely eject this jackwad out of the WH, it's all together possible it won't. 

Posted by: Lady in Black : still voting Perry at November 16, 2011 06:08 AM (ycuSb)

120 I am leaning more and more towards Romney as the guy who can do it. He is the only one in the bunch who has shown he can stand to to toe with Obama in a debate and decimate him with the facts of his failures. I like Perry, but I don't think he has it in him. exactly where i'm at. I just wish Romney would stop w/ the embarassing flip-flops and his bots wouldn't be such dicks to an undecided like me, I LOVE Perry and defend him vigirously when my brother goes off about him being a racist bigot but I think Obama can beat him at this point and I want Obama gone Posted by: AuthorLMendez Is Down To Romney Or Newt at November 16, 2011 10:07 AM (yAor6) Newt can and will bury both Romney and obama in a debate. And who is this Perry guy you speak of?

Posted by: nevergiveup at November 16, 2011 06:09 AM (i6RpT)

121 I think Obama can beat him at this point and I want Obama gone

I think Obama "can" beat any of our candidates, including RINO Romney.  And, at best, Romney will only manage the decline, he won't try to get us out of it.

If all you're concerned about is getting Obama out, that's all well and good (and, arguably, the most important thing), but if you're concerned about actually fixing what's wrong, Romney can't be your guy.  Not in the primary, anyway.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at November 16, 2011 06:09 AM (8y9MW)

122 Gingrich is the only one of the candidates who could decimate Obama in a debate and he's demonstrated in the past a willingness to directly attack Democrats, so I believe he would do it. 

That's not enough of a reason to make Newt my first choice (or even a very strong second choice), but if debate crushing is the litmus test for a candidate, then the clear choice is Newt.

Posted by: Y-not at November 16, 2011 06:10 AM (5H6zj)

123

I honestly am curious on what are you basing this belief. 

I think he (as am I) are basing it on the fact Romney has consistent good matchups w/ Obama in the polls compared to the up and down nature of the other candidates VS Obama in the polls. Of course to be fair, the polls and the actual campaign are a whole different story at times as Dukakis VS Bush in 88 proved.

Posted by: AuthorLMendez Is Down To Romney Or Newt at November 16, 2011 06:11 AM (yAor6)

124 I understand that Romney's debate performances have been for the most part without mistakes, but I have not gotten the sense that he's hit any home runs in them.  So let's say he's a solid debater.  So what?  Has Romney ever fought this administration?  What makes you think he will take Obama on in the general when he's never done so before? 
Posted by: Y-not
.........
Oh c'mon.. he's not running against Obama right now.. he's running for the nomination.

But I disagree anyway..he has hammered Obama policies.. some people who have written him off tend not to even listen to him.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 16, 2011 06:12 AM (f9c2L)

125 If all you're concerned about is getting Obama out, that's all well and good (and, arguably, the most important thing), but if you're concerned about actually fixing what's wrong, Romney can't be your guy. Not in the primary, anyway. Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at November 16, 2011 10:09 AM (8y9MW) A) get rid of obama B) fix what's wrong Just would like to point out that unless we get "A" we ain't got no chance of getting "B"

Posted by: nevergiveup at November 16, 2011 06:12 AM (i6RpT)

126 And who is this Perry guy you speak of?

Posted by: nevergiveup at November 16, 2011 10:09 AM (i6RpT)

great guy, good record, down to 9% in the polls, we've been hearing about his imminent and yet to be seen comeback for months

If all you're concerned about is getting Obama out, that's all well and good (and, arguably, the most important thing), but if you're concerned about actually fixing what's wrong, Romney can't be your guy.

i'm gonna give everyone here more DOOM, if that was what we are basing our votes on then none of them are the "guy"

Posted by: AuthorLMendez Is Down To Romney Or Newt at November 16, 2011 06:13 AM (yAor6)

127 Debating/Orating aint Presidenting.  See SCOAMF.

Posted by: Looming Wall of Reality at November 16, 2011 06:14 AM (4q5tP)

128 Newt can and will bury both Romney and obama in a debate. And who is this Perry guy you speak of? Posted by: nevergiveup
.......
Newt is not a serious candidate.,.

can we stop with this crap?  it's just like everyone running to Cain when Perry flopped.. or when Bachmann was proven to be the nut job she is..

Newt doesn't have the money or organization.  While I would love to have him as president, it ain't gonna happen.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 16, 2011 06:14 AM (f9c2L)

129 Obama was in Asia yesterday? I thought the USA owned Hawaii? I guess that proves Cain is an idiot, because Obama thinks Oahu is a province of the PRC !!!! Oh by the way what time zone is Washington DC in ???

Posted by: Wall-E at November 16, 2011 06:14 AM (48wze)

130 Drudge red headline about a guy who shot at the White House. Looks like an OWS'er to me. Of course he's described as "troubled" and "mentally ill".

Posted by: Lincolntf at November 16, 2011 06:15 AM (Qjh0I)

131 Just would like to point out that unless we get "A" we ain't got no chance of getting "B"
Posted by: nevergiveup
..........
Critical thinking and logic are classes that are so underrated in schools these days... lol!



Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 16, 2011 06:16 AM (f9c2L)

132 The relentless assaults from the stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure continues - this time it's through the BLM:
 
Gun owners who have historically been able to use public lands for target practice would be barred from potentially millions of acres under new rules drafted by the Interior Department, the first major move by the Obama administration to impose limits on firearms.
 
It just never ends. Anyone considering sitting out the '12 vote cuz their titties are tweaked from not getting their favorite nominee, you're not a moron but an idiot.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 16, 2011 06:16 AM (ENKCw)

133 Gingrich could be the USA's Churchill...............

Posted by: Wall-E at November 16, 2011 06:16 AM (48wze)

134 Oh by the way what time zone is Washington DC in ??? Posted by: Wall-E at November 16, 2011 10:14 AM

The stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure always operates out of the Communist Time Zone. Always has.

Posted by: MrScribbler at November 16, 2011 06:16 AM (HkOAc)

Posted by: sky at November 16, 2011 06:17 AM (oZfic)

136 Newt is not a serious candidate.,. can we stop with this crap? it's just like everyone running to Cain when Perry flopped.. or when Bachmann was proven to be the nut job she is.. Newt doesn't have the money or organization. While I would love to have him as president, it ain't gonna happen. Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 16, 2011 10:14 AM (f9c2L) Hum? Well seems the electorate usually decides who is and who is not a serious candidate. As Newt rises int he polls, and if he wins some primaries, the money will follow.

Posted by: nevergiveup at November 16, 2011 06:17 AM (i6RpT)

137

Posted by: Lincolntf at November 16, 2011 10:15 AM (Qjh0I)

the one day of the week I listen to him, Beck was all over it today. he's been very good at the details and why the media is not covering it. big redemption points for me after that "Santorum is Washington" thing

Posted by: AuthorLMendez Is Down To Romney Or Newt at November 16, 2011 06:17 AM (yAor6)

138 Debating/Orating aint Presidenting.  See SCOAMF.

Posted by: Looming Wall of Reality
.............
Being the most Conservative in the bunch and losing to the SCOAMF ain't presidentin' either.. (it's called losing)

See logic discussion above...

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 16, 2011 06:17 AM (f9c2L)

139 Of course he's described as "troubled" and "mentally ill". Posted by: Lincolntf at November 16, 2011 10:15 AM

That's code for "he's a Democrat." Otherwise, he'd be described as an "ardent Tea Party member."

Posted by: MrScribbler at November 16, 2011 06:18 AM (HkOAc)

140

Posted by: sky at November 16, 2011 10:17 AM (oZfic)

no curious you and your porn links are jokes, oh and here's a tip dont try and hide behind a new identity by being the same link whore you were w/ your previous one

 

Posted by: nevergiveup at November 16, 2011 10:17 AM (i6RpT)

app. he's taken leads in some primaries like MS and CA; he's starting to make a rise in the IA polling

Posted by: AuthorLMendez Is Down To Romney Or Newt at November 16, 2011 06:19 AM (yAor6)

141 I guess that proves Cain is an idiot, because Obama thinks Oahu is a province of the PRC !!!! No shit. Everybody knows that Oahu is a Tokyo suburb.

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at November 16, 2011 06:20 AM (p7SSh)

143 Romney a "great debater"? No he's not, he's just good at giving the typical politician non-answer and the moderators have not pressed him. Neither have the other candidates except Perry and that is only recently and now most likely at an end.

I have watched Perry commercials now and he is running on what he will do and what he has done in TX. He has not mentioned Romney's or Newt's record.

He needs to.

Posted by: Vic at November 16, 2011 06:21 AM (YdQQY)

144 As an aside, I had to go to Motor Vehicles today to get a new Drivers license. And the funny thing is when I look in the mirror I see the same stud 20 year old I always thought I was. But the pic from Motor Vehicles make me look like a 50 year old has been? Must be shitty cameras at Motor Vehicles

Posted by: nevergiveup at November 16, 2011 06:21 AM (i6RpT)

145 I have watched Perry commercials now and he is running on what he will do and what he has done in TX. He has not mentioned Romney's or Newt's record.

Posted by: Vic at November 16, 2011 10:21 AM (YdQQY)

Vic...it's just not gonna happen

Posted by: AuthorLMendez Is Down To Romney Or Newt at November 16, 2011 06:22 AM (yAor6)

146
The idiot mayor of Boston, Mumbles Menino, is allowing the illegal trespassers and squatters to stay.

Excellent news for Scott Brown. The longer these whiny parasites are on center stage for all to see, the worse it makes Elizabeth Warren look.

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 16, 2011 06:22 AM (sqkOB)

147 84, check this out. Blows a gaping hole in the "rogue group" meme: http://tinyurl.com/bo4pzkq

Posted by: Scott J at November 16, 2011 06:22 AM (/bVuS)

148 i gotta go, gotta call these guys and see what's up w/ this bahamas cruise

Posted by: AuthorLMendez Is Down To Romney Or Newt at November 16, 2011 06:23 AM (yAor6)

149

The fact that he's still at large (assuming I'm reading the latest stories) kind of puts the lie to virtually every D.C.-based spy/terrorism/thriller novel I've ever read. Most would've had a black helicopter tracking the guy before the first shot echoed.

Posted by: Lincolntf at November 16, 2011 06:23 AM (Qjh0I)

150 Everyone knows that cameras at the DMV are designed to make people look shitty. But I thought you were in the Navy. So why are you having to get a driver's license.

When I was in they allowed us to maintain an expired license until 30 days after discharge.

Posted by: Vic at November 16, 2011 06:23 AM (YdQQY)

151 Of course he's described as "troubled" and "mentally ill".

Reagan's fault!

Posted by: Wait for it at November 16, 2011 06:24 AM (rfYZs)

152 157, my aches and pains tell me my mirrors lie to me.

Posted by: Scott J at November 16, 2011 06:25 AM (/bVuS)

153

Paul Krugman is a no-neck hunchback of a miserable failure.

Posted by: Wm T Sherman at November 16, 2011 06:26 AM (SYrAh)

154 Everyone knows that cameras at the DMV are designed to make people look shitty. But I thought you were in the Navy. So why are you having to get a driver's license. When I was in they allowed us to maintain an expired license until 30 days after discharge. Posted by: Vic at November 16, 2011 10:23 AM (YdQQY) I'm in the reserves. You can extend your existing license if you get deployed on orders.

Posted by: nevergiveup at November 16, 2011 06:26 AM (i6RpT)

155 #155 LOL  Oh man...  I've got a screenshot of that now.  Being a wisconsinite myself, I found that particularly awesome.

Posted by: GMan at November 16, 2011 06:26 AM (sxq57)

156 OK

Posted by: Vic at November 16, 2011 06:26 AM (YdQQY)

157

He is troubled and mentally ill because "BUSH LIEEEEEEEEEEEEEED" ! Barry is trying to help him by raisng his taxes, keeping him unemployed and providing shitty healthcare. What is wrong with you...Why are you so stupid !!!

 

Posted by: Wall-E at November 16, 2011 06:26 AM (48wze)

158 He has not mentioned Romney's or Newt's record.

He needs to.
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Would it be more effective if the attacks were done through either SuperPACs or surrogates?  I'd kind of like to see Perry stay on the positive.  Attacking him while his (Rick's) poll numbers are below Romney's in most states (except FL, CA, and TX) makes him look desperate. 

Posted by: Y-not at November 16, 2011 06:30 AM (5H6zj)

159 BTW, I read a few general assertions about Mitt beating up on Obama in a future debate, but no real evidence. 

Posted by: Y-not at November 16, 2011 06:31 AM (5H6zj)

160

Being the most Conservative in the bunch and losing to the SCOAMF ain't presidentin' either.. (it's called losing)

See logic discussion above...

Seems to me we have done pretty well at winning elections when we've nominated the more conservative candidate.  Much less so when we (or the MFM) have chosen  the "Dem Lite" candidate.

All of these people have a giant flaw that disqualifies them in the eyes of some.  Need to focus/emphasize the Conservative Message more so than the candidate and pick a candidate that can carry that banner reasonably well.

Posted by: Count de Money, de-socking as Looming Wall of Reality at November 16, 2011 06:31 AM (4q5tP)

161 Must be shitty cameras at Motor Vehicles

Reminds me of a crack made by a friend with his new passport in hand: look at that picture, it's an embarrassment to travel and have to show this thing.

Posted by: Retread at November 16, 2011 06:32 AM (O83kf)

162 Would it be more effective if the attacks were done through either SuperPACs or surrogates? I'd kind of like to see Perry stay on the positive. Attacking him while his (Rick's) poll numbers are below Romney's in most states (except FL, CA, and TX) makes him look desperate. Posted by: Y-not at November 16, 2011 10:30 AM (5H6zj) Old Rick is stuck between that Rock and a Hard Place. It would be nice if he could stay positive, but he is so far behind, and has looked so shitty in all the debates, and he is running out of time.

Posted by: nevergiveup at November 16, 2011 06:32 AM (i6RpT)

163 YOU RACISTS! Trying to keep person's of color down (I have no color because I am translucent) CNN POLL: Whites give Obama thumbs DOWN 61%-36%; Non-White thumbs UP 67%-32%...

Posted by: Wall-E at November 16, 2011 06:33 AM (48wze)

164 >>>While Wall Street and laissez faire Republicans have attacked the commission’s final report — all 22 footnoted chapters of it — Angelides boasted that not one fact had been proven wrong. From the article featuring the former Cal treasurer. Reuters strangely keeps mentioning republicans in the context of the next economic meltdown. WTF???

Posted by: Max Power at November 16, 2011 06:33 AM (+wxCD)

165

Mitt has been on the national stage running for president for, well forever it seems.  His biggest virtue is that he doesn't scare people.

Newbies to the national stage are unknowns, and can be easily destroyed by the opposition's narrative.  Cain is flaming out before our eyes and Bachman has already flamed out. Newt's problem is he has too much baggage and that will work against him in the general electio, same with Ron Paul & Santorum.  Huntsman's a member of TeamObama so he's damaged goods not to mention he is the cure for insomnia.

Getting the ObamaOccupiers out of the White House is job one.  We can't take another four years of Executive Orders sucking our freedoms away from us 24/7. 

Posted by: Boots at November 16, 2011 06:33 AM (neKzn)

166

Seems to me we have done pretty well at winning elections when we've nominated the more conservative candidate.  Much less so when we (or the MFM) have chosen  the "Dem Lite" candidate.

All of these people have a giant flaw that disqualifies them in the eyes of some.  Need to focus/emphasize the Conservative Message more so than the candidate and pick a candidate that can carry that banner reasonably well.

Posted by: Count de Money
...........
Oh really?  Who would that be?

W?  The president who grew federal government faster than any previous president in history?

His father?

Reagan?  If you think this country is anything like it was 30+ years ago, you are living in a time warp.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 16, 2011 06:35 AM (f9c2L)

167 Freddie Mac "We paid Gingrich $1.6 million to lobby for us".

Amazing.   Historian?  Still laughing my ass off, Newt.

Posted by: Buck Hayek at November 16, 2011 06:35 AM (z0HdK)

168 BTW, I read a few general assertions about Mitt beating up on Obama in a future debate, but no real evidence. I'd like to add that if Obama thinks a debate will not work out well for him, he will no-show. That spineless wuss could wag the dog all day long from that office he's desecrating.

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at November 16, 2011 06:36 AM (p7SSh)

169 I'd really like to see someone bring up Oblama and all the crap that's been going on under the table during the next debate.  "Gov. Perry, people have problems with the in state tuition to illegal immigrants, how do you respond to that?"  Well, when you talk about our border with Mexico it makes me think about Fast and Furious, which makes me think about how the most transparent administration ever will not turn over documents that have been subpoenaed, which makes me think of Solyndra and the fact that the Obama administration has been buying supporters with taxpayer money.  I'm sorry, what was the question again?

Posted by: Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain at November 16, 2011 06:36 AM (bj+Nc)

170 ABC News has learned authorities are increasingly concerned that a man sought in connection with a bizarre shooting incident on the Washington Mall last week may pose a threat to President Obama. The Secret Service now suspects that a bullet fired in this incident may have hit the White House after a bullet round was found in a White House window, though the round had not yet been conclusively linked to the incident. The round was stopped by ballistic glass behind the historic exterior glass, while an additional round has been found on the exterior of the White House. So the Secret Service thinks a guy who took a shot at the White House "Might" be a threat to obama? Boy ya got to get up pretty early in the AM to get anything past them? Obviously he is a treat. He's a moron also, but anyone stupid enough to shot at the White House is a threat to everyone around him.

Posted by: nevergiveup at November 16, 2011 06:38 AM (i6RpT)

171 Mitt has been on the national stage running for president for, well forever it seems.  His biggest virtue is that he doesn't scare people.
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Mitt has been on the national stage in a Republican primary.  That's it.  He hasn't been in Congress or in a cabinet or ambassadorship or any sort of national office.  He has not been "vetted" nationally in a general election or in the court of public opinion.

He will be plenty scary when the media is done with him. 

I think it is foolish to try to project electability arguments based on some supposed national vetting that Romney has undergone when he simply has not been scrutinized in that way. 

The folks who are running who have had that kind of scrutiny are Gingrich, as Speaker of the House, and to a lesser extent Bachmann (for her Tea Party stuff), Ron Paul (ditto), and Huntsman (ambassadorships). 

Posted by: Y-not at November 16, 2011 06:38 AM (5H6zj)

172 Posted by: Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain
........
That was kinda my point..  I don't think Perry has the ability to keep bending the discussion back to the failures of Obama.. including the corruption.  I would love to think he could do it, but he hasn't shown the ability to do so thus far.

I think Romney would kill Obama in debates if he just stays on the attack.  Obama has surely given any opposition candidate all the ammo they would ever need.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 16, 2011 06:39 AM (f9c2L)

173 181 - Thank you! There is this assumption that Obama will debate the R candidate. I don't believe he will. Even WITH the huge kissing-ass he will get from the press moderators, if he thinks it won't help him (and it won't) and/or if it's just too much bother for King Omorosa, he ain't going to do it.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 16, 2011 06:39 AM (SB0V2)

174
Oil over $100/bbl

expect to see $3.75/gal gas soon

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 16, 2011 06:39 AM (sqkOB)

175 The WH shooting suspect from last Friday, still on the lose, was believed to have been mulling around the Occupy DC camp

link to ABC

Posted by: laceyunderalls - no nickless - no peace! at November 16, 2011 06:40 AM (U/b5S)

Posted by: sky at November 16, 2011 06:40 AM (oZfic)

177 I think Romney would kill Obama in debates if he just stays on the attack. Obama has surely given any opposition candidate all the ammo they would ever need. Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 16, 2011 10:39 AM (f9c2L) Would be nice if he could prove that in the next few debates instead of being his old meely mouth self?

Posted by: nevergiveup at November 16, 2011 06:40 AM (i6RpT)

178 If you think this country is anything like it was 30+ years ago, you are living in a time warp. This country is nothing like it was in 2008. This election is going to be a referendum on Obama. It will be a referendum on the shitty economic conditions Obama has inflicted on this country. It will pit parasites against the productive, and the outcome will dictate whether this country deserves to continue.

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at November 16, 2011 06:41 AM (p7SSh)

179
The next debate, hosted by CNN, will have those idiots debating foreign policy.


Posted by: Soothsayer at November 16, 2011 06:41 AM (sqkOB)

180 BTW, I read a few general assertions about Mitt beating up on Obama in a future debate, but no real evidence. 
Posted by: Y-not
..........
Wait.. I'll fire up my time machine.. shoot forward 11 months.. then I'll be back with your "evidence". k?

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 16, 2011 06:42 AM (f9c2L)

181 The next debate, hosted by CNN, will have those idiots debating foreign policy. Posted by: Soothsayer at November 16, 2011 10:41 AM (sqkOB) Anyone tell Cain that?

Posted by: nevergiveup at November 16, 2011 06:42 AM (i6RpT)

182 The are Survival Lists all over the internet. Most of them would make a good starting place to generate your own list. I believe one of the most important is to choose a means of protecting yourself and your family, acquire it, and spend the time it takes to become proficient with it. It is like a parachute, if you need one nothing else will do.

Posted by: SurferDoc at November 16, 2011 06:43 AM (STdkO)

183
The only reason to even mention foreign policy from now until election day should be on how it relates to our shitty Obama economy.


Posted by: Soothsayer at November 16, 2011 06:43 AM (sqkOB)

184 Wait.. I'll fire up my time machine.. shoot forward 11 months.. then I'll be back with your "evidence". k?
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That's my point.

When I start reading arguments about why Romney is the best candidate based on his qualifications and accomplishments and leadership and policy proposals, I'll start paying attention to him.  Instead, I am treated to wish-casting about how great Romney would do in debates against Obama eleven months from now. 

Posted by: Y-not at November 16, 2011 06:44 AM (5H6zj)

185
Anyone tell Cain that?

Cain just might do very well if he answers every question with details about his 9-9-9 plan.

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 16, 2011 06:44 AM (sqkOB)

186 Knesset Member Ahmad Tibi (United Arab List-Ta'al) on Wednesday called Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman a "fascist settler who recently settled in my homeland." During a ceremony in the West Bank city of Ramallah marking the seventh anniversary of Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat's death, the Arab-Israeli lawmaker said, "The Right and the new Likud are smothering our lives. The day will come when they will propose a 'death to Arabs' law." But "Peace" is just around the corner?

Posted by: nevergiveup at November 16, 2011 06:45 AM (i6RpT)

187 When exactly did we surrender the direction and agenda for the Republican party to the media? I haven't watched a single "debate" and do not intend to.

Posted by: Jean at November 16, 2011 06:45 AM (WkuV6)

188 On that WI recall (@155) petition drive in the cemetery--nice.

Posted by: Jimmuy at November 16, 2011 06:45 AM (e6hZK)

189 The only reason to even mention foreign policy from now until election day should be on how it relates to our shitty Obama economy. Posted by: Soothsayer at November 16, 2011 10:43 AM (sqkOB) Yeah but foreign policy has funny way of deciding when it wants to become important.

Posted by: nevergiveup at November 16, 2011 06:46 AM (i6RpT)

190 Having said that, the debate winner thus far has been Newt.  His performances have clearly been head and shoulders above the rest and he is the only one with the deep insider knowledge of DC that could humiliate Obama.  Any of the others, particularly the governors, will be countered with "well, Governor, that's how it works on a state level, but not on a national level." 

So, again, why choose based on debates?  And if you are going to choose based on that, why not Newt? 

Posted by: Y-not at November 16, 2011 06:46 AM (5H6zj)

191 When exactly did we surrender the direction and agenda for the Republican party to the media? I haven't watched a single "debate" and do not intend to. Posted by: Jean at November 16, 2011 10:45 AM (WkuV6) If EVERY one of our candidates took a cue from Newt and told the moderators to go fuck themselves and set the agenda themselves ......... AND I'D PAY TO SEE THAT ALSO

Posted by: nevergiveup at November 16, 2011 06:47 AM (i6RpT)

192 I'm moving Larry Lang to my dead pool.

Posted by: Jean at November 16, 2011 06:48 AM (WkuV6)

193 If EVERY one of our candidates You mean with the exception of those who should be in the Democratic primary.

Posted by: Jean at November 16, 2011 06:50 AM (WkuV6)

194 Chi-Town Jerry at November 16, 2011 10:39 AM (f9c2L)

I'm just thinking that instead of attacking Newt, Cain or Romney, it may be better to attack Oblama.  I feel like that's the higher and more important road to take.  Gotta let those independents know what's going on now and what will continue to go on if we keep choosing our plays out of Obama's 101 ways to get to the apocalypse.

I think Perry can do it.  Perhaps it makes me stubborn or naive, but I really don't give a good hot damn about the debates.  I don't really care about how a debate between Obama and our sacrificial lamb to the MFM is going to turn out.  I like Perry's experience, his principles and at this point all of the plans that he's put out sound pretty good to me.  It may not be that simple, but it is that clear.

Posted by: Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain at November 16, 2011 06:50 AM (bj+Nc)

195 If EVERY one of our candidates You mean with the exception of those who should be in the Democratic primary. Posted by: Jean at November 16, 2011 10:50 AM (WkuV6) yeah

Posted by: nevergiveup at November 16, 2011 06:50 AM (i6RpT)

196 Just and aside but: A shout out to Coach K The Blue Devils gave Krzyzewski his 903rd win, breaking the tie with Knight, Krzyzewski's college coach at Army and his mentor throughout his professional career.

Posted by: nevergiveup at November 16, 2011 06:52 AM (i6RpT)

197 Vic,

How are you feeling?

Posted by: mpfs, Voting 4 Perry at November 16, 2011 06:53 AM (iYbLN)

198
There is another debate before the CNN debate on 11/22.

Thanksgiving Family Forum on 11/19 in Iowa. It sounds like it's gonna be chiefly on social issues. Guess who is 'unconfirmed'?

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 16, 2011 06:53 AM (sqkOB)

199

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at November 16, 2011 10:53 AM (OWjjx)

Good lord, that was like a Jeff B. length post.

You get a little too much caffeine this morning?

Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 16, 2011 06:54 AM (sbV1u)

200 I'm a little embarrassed to say I heard Perry on Hannity yesterday and thought he was the best of them I have heard talk at length. I guess I have to reassess.

Posted by: SurferDoc at November 16, 2011 06:55 AM (STdkO)

201 Newt has to explain his ties to Freddy/Fannie - like yesterday.

Posted by: laceyunderalls - no nickless - no peace! at November 16, 2011 06:55 AM (U/b5S)

202
Guess who is moderating the CNN/Heritage Found./AEI debate?


Mr Jeopardy Champ

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 16, 2011 06:57 AM (sqkOB)

203 Feeling good. In fact, leaving now to eat lunch out. Will be back later.

Posted by: Vic at November 16, 2011 06:57 AM (YdQQY)

204

Posted by: laceyunderalls - no nickless - no peace! at November 16, 2011 10:55 AM (U/b5S)

I think I have late-onset dyslexia.

I first read that hash line as "laceyunderalls - no panties - no peace!"

I think it's time to start drinking heavily.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 16, 2011 06:57 AM (sbV1u)

205
oops

not champ, chump

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 16, 2011 06:57 AM (sqkOB)

206 Suggested DOOM beverage, Jonestown koolaid:

1/2 oz amaretto (for that trace of cyanide flavor)
1 oz vodka
cranberry juice on the rocks
 

Posted by: Bob Saget at November 16, 2011 07:01 AM (SDkq3)

207 If PPP has OWS favorability at a mere 33% that has to be a major wake-up call to every defective Democrat that supported this pigfilth infested "movement".


Posted by: laceyunderalls - no nickless - no peace! at November 16, 2011 07:01 AM (U/b5S)

208
I'm not 100% certain, but it looks like Huntsman and Romney will not be attending the Family Forum on 11/22.

Michele Bachmann, Herman Cain, Newt Gingrich, Ron Paul,
Rick Perry and Rick Santorum (confirmed); and Mitt Romney (invited).

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 16, 2011 07:01 AM (sqkOB)

209 I think it's time to start drinking heavily. Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 16, 2011 10:57 AM (sbV1u) It's after 5:00 in Algeria. Just sayin'.

Posted by: joncelli the reluctant Perry guy at November 16, 2011 07:02 AM (RD7QR)

210 Your are supposed to mix Red Bull and Dark Roast High Grade Columbian bean, right? No, cold brew tea all night in the Red Bull, sweeten with a crumbled NoDoze.

Posted by: Jean at November 16, 2011 07:03 AM (WkuV6)

211

I think I have late-onset dyslexia.

I first read that hash line as "laceyunderalls - no panties - no peace!"

I think it's time to start drinking heavily.

Posted by: Sean Bannion

Starting early Sean?

Posted by: mpfs, Voting 4 Perry at November 16, 2011 07:03 AM (iYbLN)

212 Wow, just hearing on the radio that Joe Paterno sold his house to his wife in July . . . for $1.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Posted by: logprof at November 16, 2011 07:04 AM (QaKuj)

213

215- The explanation is he wanted the effing money.

 

Just like the rest of them. fannie and Freddie are the key to cutting out the rot in Washington. Every two bit politcal player in a decade has supped at that diseased table.

Posted by: kdny not a Mittwit at November 16, 2011 07:04 AM (SrCor)

214
Next question is to you, Mr Cain. What is most important to you and your family?

Cain: Well, ah, I'd like a national sales tax, at 9%, and I like big breasteses.

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 16, 2011 07:04 AM (sqkOB)

215

Starting early Sean?
Posted by: mpfs, Voting 4 Perry at November 16, 2011 11:03 AM (iYbLN)

It's five o'clock somewhere in the world.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 16, 2011 07:05 AM (sbV1u)

216 212
There is another debate before the CNN debate on 11/22.

Thanksgiving Family Forum on 11/19 in Iowa. It sounds like it's gonna be chiefly on social issues. Guess who is 'unconfirmed'?

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 16, 2011 10:53 AM (sqkOB)

Wow, Romney not confirmed.

This'll be like Cain's first stop in Iowa since he started his endorsement of Romney tour presidential campaign.

Posted by: Jimmuy at November 16, 2011 07:06 AM (9ZlCp)

217 Wow, just hearing on the radio that Joe Paterno sold his house to his wife in July . . . for $1. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Posted by: logprof at November 16, 2011 11:04 AM (QaKuj) 4 months ago when it was pretty clear this scandal was going to break. I am sure he does not have much of any assests in his name as of today. Smart enough to protect his assests but not moral enough to call the Police

Posted by: nevergiveup at November 16, 2011 07:06 AM (i6RpT)

218 I'm not 100% certain, but it looks like Huntsman and Romney will not be attending the Family Forum on 11/22. In a sane world Romney wouldn't even be invited, he would be running in the Dim primaries, banging on Obama for screwing up healthcare. Moving the window back to the center requires not only that the Republicans nominate actual conservatives, but that the Democrats also nominate patriotic, rational candidates who respect the Constitution.

Posted by: Jean at November 16, 2011 07:06 AM (WkuV6)

219 Wow, just hearing on the radio that Joe Paterno sold his house to his wife in July . . . for $1. A rich guy Paterno's age who doesnt have a trust??

Posted by: Jean at November 16, 2011 07:07 AM (WkuV6)

220 OWS = Ringworm and Scabies?

Scabies?!?

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at November 16, 2011 07:09 AM (Qxdfp)

221 4 months ago when it was pretty clear this scandal was going to break. I am sure he does not have much of any assests in his name as of today. Smart enough to protect his assests but not moral enough to call the Police

Posted by: nevergiveup at November 16, 2011 11:06 AM (i6RpT)


--Yep.  A lawyer who specializes in the elderly said that there's no tax benefit to such a transaction; you would only do it to shield your assets from a potential liability.

Posted by: logprof at November 16, 2011 07:10 AM (QaKuj)

222

O/T I posted this on the Top Headline thread, thought I would risk a double post so that you might catch a deal.

Amazon is doing a sneaky little buy-one, get-one half-off! Go, go, go, if you have been saving your game money for this moment. Only a couple of PC versions available, no MW3 for PC for example ... but Skyrim and Rage yes ... but you XBox, Wii, Playstation folks can benefit. http://tinyurl.com/cwx9z7z

Posted by: Errol at November 16, 2011 07:10 AM (vewos)

223 Hah, my MIL lives just down the road from me.

Posted by: Vic at November 16, 2011 09:06 AM (YdQQY)

There's lots to be said about a MIL that lives 13 time zones away! Unintrusive is one word.

Posted by: Cicerokid at November 16, 2011 07:10 AM (AvCxZ)

224

Starting early Sean?
Posted by: mpfs, Voting 4 Perry at November 16, 2011 11:03 AM (iYbLN)

It's five o'clock somewhere in the world.


Sean,

How's the squirrel cage this morning?  Lots of nuts?

Posted by: mpfs, Voting 4 Perry at November 16, 2011 07:11 AM (iYbLN)

225 A rich guy Paterno's age who doesnt have a trust??

Posted by: Jean at November 16, 2011 11:07 AM (WkuV6)

--I'm sure he does, but can you put a house in a trust?  I'm not expert on this stuff.

Posted by: logprof at November 16, 2011 07:12 AM (QaKuj)

226 DOOM: A slight burning sensation


--Excuse me Doc, what does it mean when you go the bathroom and . . . fire shoot out your dick?

Posted by: logprof, still quoting Eddie Murphy at November 16, 2011 07:13 AM (QaKuj)

227 3 The answer to increasing economic prosperity is not to figure out new ways to divide the pie; the answer is to make the whole pie bigger.


Monty, you assume that the pie can be made bigger. That isn't always true.

One of the dumbest thing I have ever read.
The stupid..it BURNS!!

Posted by: ghost707 at November 16, 2011 07:13 AM (RzFXd)

228 Oh really?  Who would that be?

W?  The president who grew federal government faster than any previous president in history?

His father?

Reagan?  If you think this country is anything like it was 30+ years ago, you are living in a time warp.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 16, 2011 10:35 AM (f9c2L)

Yes, those men plus Nixon and Eisenhower.  We did pretty well, reasonably well even, in those elections.  Remember the alternatives:

Eisenhower > Adlai Stevenson (2 X)

Nixon > Humphrey ('6 and McGovern ('72)

Reagan > Carter ('80) and Mondale ('84)

Bush 41 > Dukakis ('8

W > Gore ('00) and Kerry ('04)

No, our guys were not perfect "True Conservative" Presidents, but they were reasonably good, and far far better than the alternative. (I shudder just looking at the Dem candidates' names.)

I'll take the time warp comment as a compliment.  I have many items still in use that the Smithsonian would probably like to display in their Time Warp showcase.  Remember the plates that used to come with the first gen Lean Cuisine meals?  Still have some in use as microwave plates.  In a 1982 GE microwave.  Which heats meals that I sometimes eat in front of my 1984 27" RCA TV.  While watching movies on my 1984 Stereo Beta Hi-Fi VCR.

The classics (like Conservatism) never go out of style.

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 16, 2011 07:14 AM (4q5tP)

229 Monty, you assume that the pie can be made bigger. That isn't always true.

One of the dumbest thing I have ever read.
The stupid..it BURNS!!

Posted by: ghost707 at November 16, 2011 11:13 AM (RzFXd)


--Wow, dum-dum is right out the gate today.

Posted by: logprof at November 16, 2011 07:14 AM (QaKuj)

230 Jeez Monty,
That Vampire kitteh looks like one of the auditors I'm dealing with....things that make you you go....kjhasdjkshjksfhkdj.

Posted by: mpfs, Voting 4 Perry at November 16, 2011 07:15 AM (iYbLN)

231 I propose "Cheesesteakistan" as the name for the new state carved out of South Jersey, Southeast Pennsylvania and Northern Delaware. Or "Scrappleplace. \"

The state motto: "Spacco il capo," after Mayor Frank Rizzo. (For you non-paisans, "Boom! Taste my nightstick!"

Posted by: Little Miss Spellcheck at November 16, 2011 07:16 AM (a5ljo)

232
On this day in 2006...

Milton Friedman died.

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 16, 2011 07:16 AM (sqkOB)

233 For those that get Laura Ingraham's show, Newt is coming up at the bottom of the hour to explain his $1.6M Freddie payment.

Posted by: Tami at November 16, 2011 07:16 AM (X6akg)

234 Monty, you assume that the pie can be made bigger. That isn't always true.



Of course the pie can be made bigger.  You just need a bigger pie plate you fools.  Don't you people watch the Food Channel?

Posted by: mpfs, Voting 4 Perry at November 16, 2011 07:17 AM (iYbLN)

235 The state motto: "Spacco il capo," after Mayor Frank Rizzo. (For you non-paisans, "Boom! Taste my nightstick!"
Posted by: Little Miss Spellcheck

Ah, Frank Rizzo busting heads....good times.

Posted by: mpfs, Voting 4 Perry at November 16, 2011 07:18 AM (iYbLN)

236 Along with JoePa's real estate razzle-dazzle, I just saw that Penn State is moving the big (7 foot, 900 lb) statue of him from the entrance to Beaver Stadium. A month ago, Paterno = Penn State, now he's rapidly becoming an un-person.

Posted by: Lincolntf at November 16, 2011 07:19 AM (Qjh0I)

237
November 16, 1916

The voice of Yogi Bear, Huckleberry Hound, Elroy Jetson, Mr Cogswell (of Cogswell Cogs), Mr. Jinx, and Cap'n Crunch was born.

Daws Butler gave voice to many beloved characters.

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 16, 2011 07:19 AM (sqkOB)

238 Nice analysis, Mallamutt. But too long. And you're a RINO fag.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at November 16, 2011 07:19 AM (XE2Oo)

239
Peter Potamus

Hokey Wolf

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 16, 2011 07:20 AM (sqkOB)

240 248 I propose "Cheesesteakistan" as the name for the new state carved out of South Jersey, Southeast Pennsylvania and Northern Delaware. Or "Scrappleplace. \" What would you call a state formed out of NY, CT, RI, MA, VT, and ME? Confiscatia? Taxistan?

Posted by: joncelli the reluctant Perry guy at November 16, 2011 07:20 AM (RD7QR)

241
Snagglepuss.

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 16, 2011 07:20 AM (sqkOB)

242 I like pie. Give it up.

Posted by: Moosechelle at November 16, 2011 07:20 AM (AvCxZ)

243
Scooby Dum

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 16, 2011 07:20 AM (sqkOB)

244
Wally Gator

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 16, 2011 07:21 AM (sqkOB)

245 We've got Doom, bad thinking, bad behaving, stealing Doom! I quote: "The poll found that 46 percent of all Americans have engaged in piracy, but that young people skew the numbers significantly." Sad biz, really sad. http://tinyurl.com/cbw4qud
 

Posted by: Errol at November 16, 2011 07:21 AM (vewos)

246
Quick Draw McGraw

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 16, 2011 07:22 AM (sqkOB)

247 250 For those that get Laura Ingraham's show, Newt is coming up at the bottom of the hour to explain his $1.6M Freddie payment. Posted by: Tami at November 16, 2011 11:16 AM (X6akg) "I'm married to a younger woman who wouldn't look at me, much less polish the little salamander, if it weren't for the Tiffany's account." Too cynical?

Posted by: joncelli the reluctant Perry guy at November 16, 2011 07:22 AM (RD7QR)

248 Deputy Droop Along?

Posted by: mpfs, Voting 4 Perry at November 16, 2011 07:23 AM (iYbLN)

249 Sarge, beloved chum of Yakky Doodle.

Posted by: Little Miss Spellcheck at November 16, 2011 07:23 AM (a5ljo)

250
Remember when The Penguin trained Rocky and told him to Crap Thunder?

Burgess Meredith would be celebrating his 104th birthday today if he were alive.




Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at November 16, 2011 07:23 AM (sqkOB)

251 Burgess Meredith would be celebrating his 104th birthday today if he were alive. Time enough, at last.

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at November 16, 2011 07:24 AM (p7SSh)

252 I didn't know he did Augie Doggie.

Posted by: mpfs, Voting 4 Perry at November 16, 2011 07:24 AM (iYbLN)

253 Burgess Meredith would be celebrating his 104th birthday today if he were alive.




Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at November 16, 2011 11:23 AM (sqkOB)


--He was a riot in Grumpier Old Men.

Posted by: logprof at November 16, 2011 07:24 AM (QaKuj)

254 Along with JoePa's real estate razzle-dazzle, I just saw that Penn State is moving the big (7 foot, 900 lb) statue of him from the entrance to Beaver Stadium. A month ago, Paterno = Penn State, now he's rapidly becoming an un-person. Posted by: Lincolntf at November 16, 2011 11:19 AM (Qjh0I) Maybe they can replace it with a statue of real nice shaved beaver?

Posted by: nevergiveup at November 16, 2011 07:25 AM (i6RpT)

255
ahhh, that was a great episode of The Twilight Zone

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 16, 2011 07:25 AM (sqkOB)

256 Ngehh, ngehh, ngehh!

Posted by: Oswald Chesterfield Cobblepott at November 16, 2011 07:26 AM (AvCxZ)

257 Wow, just went back to Hillbuzz to find that post about how Kevin has resigned himself to Cain only being in to run for VP, with paralells to Edwards and Biden; how he and several veteran campaign volunteers have tried for weeks to get a hold of the Cain staff to go down to Iowa and work for free--people he describe as having very good resumes for that kind of stuff--and they have gotten no where. One specific was a guy who'd been trying for 7 weeks.

All gone. (or I can't find it) But, I did read it.

And he was right. Cain is in every early primary state but Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina, Florida or Nevada. But he is really, really serious about getting the nomination.

Right up until he endorses Romney by March 31, 2012.

Posted by: Jimmuy at November 16, 2011 07:27 AM (NNt6T)

258
I didn't know he did Augie Doggie.

Indeed.

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 16, 2011 07:27 AM (sqkOB)

259
Yakky Doodle was so cute and pathetic.

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 16, 2011 07:28 AM (sqkOB)

260
Remember when Yakky ran away from home because he thought he was a pain in the ass to Chopper?

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 16, 2011 07:29 AM (sqkOB)

261 Heavens to Murgatroid!

http://tinyurl.com/2ygwat

Posted by: mpfs, Voting 4 Perry at November 16, 2011 07:29 AM (iYbLN)

262 Well. Come here often?

Posted by: joncelli the reluctant Perry guy at November 16, 2011 07:32 AM (RD7QR)

263
On the same day, November 16, in 1973, Skylab 4 launches and Nixon signs off on the Alaska Pipeline.

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 16, 2011 07:33 AM (sqkOB)

264 277
I didn't know he did Augie Doggie.

Indeed.
Posted by: Soothsayer

Now that takes me back a few years.

http://tinyurl.com/6s5l35s

Posted by: mpfs, Voting 4 Perry at November 16, 2011 07:33 AM (iYbLN)

265 If the big protector dog was Chopper, who was Sarge? I misremember that name.

Posted by: Little Miss Spellcheck at November 16, 2011 07:33 AM (a5ljo)

266 S'up homies? Is Obama still a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure? Inquiring minds want to know!

Posted by: Joffen at November 16, 2011 07:34 AM (zLeKL)

267 No, cold brew tea all night in the Red Bull, sweeten with a crumbled NoDoze.

Don't drink it, run it in via Neti pot.

Posted by: DaveA at November 16, 2011 07:35 AM (ZbyTI)

268
The next day, November 17, 1973, Nixon says in response to Watergate, "I am not a crook."


Posted by: Soothsayer at November 16, 2011 07:36 AM (sqkOB)

269 I belong to a Facebook community called Liberate Buffalo, it's kind of the opposite of the Occupy movement, it's just getting started. Here's a link

Posted by: Joffen at November 16, 2011 07:36 AM (zLeKL)

270 Don't drink it, run it in via Neti pot. Posted by: DaveA at November 16, 2011 11:35 AM (ZbyTI) Yeesh. Might as well take it as an enema if you're going to do that.

Posted by: joncelli the reluctant Perry guy at November 16, 2011 07:36 AM (RD7QR)

271
who was Sarge?

I'm drawing a blank.

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 16, 2011 07:37 AM (sqkOB)

272 Daws Butler gave voice to many beloved characters.
Posted by: Soothsayer at November 16, 2011 11:19 AM

Also was the voice of Waldo, Mr Magoo's nephew.

A nice guy, BTW.

Posted by: MrScribbler at November 16, 2011 07:37 AM (HkOAc)

273 Sad thing is, if our weasels in DC would even make a hint of a reform in our budget, the world would breathe a sigh of relief. Just a faint indication that we are not heading into the effing abyss will do.

But we won't.

Then what?

Posted by: PJ at November 16, 2011 07:37 AM (DQHjw)

274 /checks thread for pulse

/shakes his head and notes coma

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275 286 No, cold brew tea all night in the Red Bull, sweeten with a crumbled NoDoze.

Don't drink it, run it in via Neti pot.
Posted by: DaveA

I hear the gals today soak a tampon in the concoction and then...insert.

Posted by: mpfs, Voting 4 Perry at November 16, 2011 07:37 AM (iYbLN)

276 Then what? Posted by: PJ at November 16, 2011 11:37 AM (DQHjw) DOOM. Hence the name of the thread.

Posted by: joncelli would really rather not work at November 16, 2011 07:38 AM (RD7QR)

277
Sgt. Flint from Hong Kong Phooey?

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 16, 2011 07:39 AM (sqkOB)

278
The early Mr Magoos were great and not really for kids. Then they made Mr Magoo more friendly.

I loved his Chinese house boy. "Sorry, bloss."

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 16, 2011 07:41 AM (sqkOB)

279 Yeesh. Might as well take it as an enema if you're going to do that.

That's for depressants not stimulants. 

Posted by: DaveA at November 16, 2011 07:41 AM (ZbyTI)

280 Hensarling Dismisses ‘Penny’ of New Revenue in Deficit Deal

“We have gone as far as we feel we can go on balance. We have to make sure we’re helping the economy,” Hensarling said in an interview with CNBC’s Larry Kudlow. “We put $250 billion in what is known as static revenue on the table, but only if we can bring down rates.

“Any penny of increased static revenue is a step in the wrong direction,” Hensarling continued. “We can only balance that with pro-growth reforms, and, frankly, the Democrats have never agreed [to] that, so I don’t know how many times I can tell you that that agreement is not going to happen.”

Posted by: Miss'80s at November 16, 2011 07:43 AM (d6QMz)

281 Hanna-Barbera sure pumped out a lot of crap. How did they get the networks to buy all that shit?

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 16, 2011 07:43 AM (SPC42)

282 300!

Posted by: Joffen at November 16, 2011 07:43 AM (zLeKL)

283 Son-of-a--!

Posted by: Joffen at November 16, 2011 07:44 AM (zLeKL)

284
I love all that Hanna Barbera stuff.

From Scooby to Yogi to the Super Friends.

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 16, 2011 07:45 AM (sqkOB)

285 271 Burgess Meredith would be celebrating his 104th birthday today if he were alive.

Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at November 16, 2011 11:23 AM (sqkOB)


--He was a riot in Grumpier Old Men.

Posted by: logprof at November 16, 2011 11:24 AM (QaKuj)

His best lines in the movie were during the credits.  I think the best line was; "taking old one eye to the optometrist."

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at November 16, 2011 07:45 AM (WUWb9)

286
The Flintstones is still a great show after 50 years.

Except Kazoo.

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 16, 2011 07:46 AM (sqkOB)

287 Former Enron Financial Adviser Paul Krugman

Posted by: AoSHQ Stylebook at November 16, 2011 07:46 AM (GTbGH)

288 Posted by: Soothsayer

Dum, dum.

Posted by: Kazoo at November 16, 2011 07:47 AM (NuPNl)

289
   Good morning, good people.

   Grouse hunting was a huge success this AM. Spastic Lab performed splendidly and we have 3 more grouse for the game dinner.

   Read a disturbing thing about Molotov cocktails being planned for window decoration at Macy's a minute ago, check HA for details. This is not gonna end well.

Posted by: irongrampa at November 16, 2011 07:47 AM (SAMxH)

290 Posted by: sickinmass at November 16, 2011 11:51 AM (1rflU) ---- Just like the Tea Party

Posted by: Joffen at November 16, 2011 07:52 AM (zLeKL)

291 does my liking the bad overpriced california rolls from the grocery store make me libtardish? It feels a little shameful.

Posted by: dagny at November 16, 2011 07:52 AM (/EyLO)

292 To follow-up on 299, Hensarling says that if the Democrats will not agree to reform health care entitlements, then he is in-favor of the sequester. He would replace the defense cuts with cuts elsewhere.

Posted by: Miss'80s at November 16, 2011 07:53 AM (d6QMz)

293 @dagny: you'll be wearing Che t-shirts before you know it, Comrade!

Posted by: Joffen at November 16, 2011 07:54 AM (zLeKL)

294 Who is supporting these turds? How are they producing posters and such? Where is the money coming from? Communists? Who?

Posted by: dagny at November 16, 2011 07:55 AM (/EyLO)

295 Taking the skin boat to Tunatown

Posted by: Wyatt's Torch at November 16, 2011 07:57 AM (wyl+S)

296 Quick now, who said this?

"He said that the regime doesn’t listen to experts, and that Party officials are insufferably arrogant. “If you don’t agree with him, he thinks you are against him,” he said."

Larry Lang about the Chinese Government or any sentient American about the Obama regime?

Posted by: nraendowment at November 16, 2011 07:58 AM (KQVeV)

297 I have a cat like that.  Scares the heck out of the cable guy.

Posted by: mama winger at November 16, 2011 07:58 AM (P6QsQ)

298 Soros. He's a crypto-anarcho-syndicalist. He helped take down the Soviet Union and now he wants to take down the US and make it a multipolar world.

Posted by: joncelli would really rather not work at November 16, 2011 07:58 AM (RD7QR)

299 313 @dagny: you'll be wearing Che t-shirts before you know it, Comrade!

Posted by: Joffen at November 16, 2011 11:54 AM (zLeKL)

I know. That's what it feels like. It's like I want a Volvo or Birkenstocks or something. Very weird. I guess I could follow it with a slimjim to balance it out.

Posted by: dagny at November 16, 2011 07:58 AM (/EyLO)

300 Puttin' the log to the beaver.

Posted by: Wyatt's Torch at November 16, 2011 07:59 AM (wyl+S)

301 318 So the communist? I wish...............no.............I will refrain.

Posted by: dagny at November 16, 2011 08:00 AM (/EyLO)

302 I know. That's what it feels like. It's like I want a Volvo or Birkenstocks or something. Very weird. I guess I could follow it with a slimjim to balance it out. Posted by: dagny at November 16, 2011 11:58 AM (/EyLO) Better add a moonpie and an RC Cola just to be sure.

Posted by: joncelli would really rather not work at November 16, 2011 08:00 AM (RD7QR)

303 @Dagny: SlimJim's balance everything.

Posted by: Joffen at November 16, 2011 08:01 AM (zLeKL)

304 I've gotta switch diet sodas anyway because Diet Coke is planning some kind of white global warming can for the holidays. So far they just have flakes which is ok. Maybe they pulled the plan.

Posted by: dagny at November 16, 2011 08:07 AM (/EyLO)

305    Grouse hunting was a huge success this AM. Spastic Lab performed splendidly and we have 3 more grouse for the game dinner.

Ooh, that sounds wonderful!

I've never had grouse.  Is it like pheasant?

Posted by: Y-not at November 16, 2011 08:08 AM (5H6zj)

306 Your survival kit should consist of the following:

(500) cans of beans
(500) bottles of water
(3) guns (1 semi auto hand gun, 1 scoped rifle, 1 assault rifle)
(50,000) bullets
(1) inflatable love doll

anything else you need can be obtained by "spending" the bullets wisely.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at November 16, 2011 08:08 AM (pdRb1)

307
   Vienna sausages and Ritz crackers will cure any liberal leanings.

Posted by: irongrampa at November 16, 2011 08:09 AM (SAMxH)

308


I've never had grouse.  Is it like pheasant?

No, no peasants taste a lot like hobos but less gamey. Some of them grow quite large but have high fat content.

Oh, phesant! Nevermind.

Posted by: dagny at November 16, 2011 08:10 AM (/EyLO)

309 327 When my dad traveled and mom said, "you're on your own" the vienna sausage and ritz meal was my go-to.

Posted by: dagny at November 16, 2011 08:11 AM (/EyLO)

310   Somewhat, Y, they are mostly breast, and all dark. It takes a lot of them for a meal,so we use them as appetizers, usually. Great with mushroom stuffing that is supplemented with crumbled bacon.

Posted by: irongrampa at November 16, 2011 08:12 AM (SAMxH)

311 330   Somewhat, Y, they are mostly breast, and all dark. It takes a lot of them for a meal,so we use them as appetizers, usually.

OK, so they sound like they're closer to quail, which I also love. 

This morning I heard a pheasant calling.  I think he's been hanging out in a stand of very tall pines in our back yard. 

Tasty tasty!

Posted by: Y-not at November 16, 2011 08:17 AM (5H6zj)

312 Is it hard to train a dog to retrieve or do you send them to a trainer to learn how to work when you're hunting? 

Posted by: Y-not at November 16, 2011 08:17 AM (5H6zj)

313 Nobody thought the super-committee would work except the kool-aid drinkers.

Posted by: katya, the designated driver at November 16, 2011 08:18 AM (kpb4T)

314
   I do all my own training, and occasionally work dogs for others. Only Labs, though. I got a thing for those oafs.


   A smart dog is easy to train, if you make it a game and don't overdo the sessions. Also having a plan on procedure is smart. Most dogs will pick up what you want the first time or two, the rest is repetition.

Posted by: irongrampa at November 16, 2011 08:29 AM (SAMxH)

315 I imagine it will be pretty much us and the biker gangs led by the Humungous. 

"The warrior of the wasteland will have booze, and coffee...."

Well, ok then!  I've picked my side.

Posted by: Paladin at November 16, 2011 09:04 AM (4kpbt)

316 84, check this out. Blows a gaping hole in the "rogue group" meme: http://tinyurl.com/bo4pzkq

Thanks Scott

Posted by: An Observation at November 16, 2011 09:17 AM (ylhEn)

317

142 Obama was in Asia yesterday? I thought the USA owned Hawaii?

 

Well ... uh ... that ... uh ... used to be true ... uh ... uh ... hold on ... hold on ... but ... uh ... well ... uh ... let's say I ... uh ... got a good price from the ... uh ... Chinese.

Posted by: Barack Obama at November 16, 2011 09:18 AM (+F1KP)

318 337

142 Obama was in Asia yesterday? I thought the USA owned Hawaii?

 

Well ... uh ... that ... uh ... used to be true ... uh ... uh ... hold on ... hold on ... but ... uh ... well ... uh ... let's say I ... uh ... got a good price from the ... uh ... Chinese.

Posted by: Barack Obama at November 16, 2011 01:18 PM (+F1KP)

And they are getting Taiwan in the deal that allegedly involves us having all of our Chinese debt expunged.  When asked for comment, the Taiwanese are not amused.

Posted by: sky at November 16, 2011 10:27 AM (oZfic)

319 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

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