1 DOOM? I can't handle another Rick Perry thread.

2

China decides not to take on that expensive European mistress after all. Besides, the local girls are just as lovely and are more appreciative.

I know it's a metaphor, but the first thing I thought when I read that was, "These would be the girls who haven't been aborted I assume?"

3 Greece is the word.  It's got debt its got taxing
...
And Greece is the way we are feeling.

4 Siena: Obama approval in NY9 is 43%.

5 Siena: Obama approval in NY9 is 43%.

Posted by: cherry pi, terrorist hostage taking SOB at September 14, 2011 09:02 AM (OhYCU)

Well of course it is!  It's just a bunch of filthy j0000s in that district.  It's arch-conservative.  And racist.

6 I was enjoying the blue on blue action up on the west coast when a union stormed a grain station and took hostages for a day because the company brought in workers from another union.

7 All I want to know is where can I get that sweet, sweet green jobs money that Solandra got?

8 7, Flash: Obama announces Ponzi Greens Act

9 Hmmmm...

Coalition allies defy Merkel's plea for discretion over Greek default

Despite German Chancellor Angela Merkel warning her government not to make any bold statements about a possible Greek bankruptcy, junior coalition partner the Free Democrats (FDP) are continuing to talk freely.

In Wednesday's edition of Financial Times Deutschland, FDP Secretary General Christian Lindner said that long-term clarity on the issue, desired by the German people as well as the markets, could not be achieved with a vow of silence.

10 I smell a new day in America. Even the demo-nazis know they are done for. Thank you God for providing this lesson to our people. I pray that some portion of them may be able to discard their learned envy and embrace Your Grace. Gratitude is the basis of great things. Envy the basis of great destruction. May our Country return to this wisdom. Amen.

11 I am pretty sure that my compost pile is a source for bio-fuels. For $535M I can make a go of this business.

12 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Debt is not an inherently bad thing;

I disagree with this statement.  Debt is inherently a bad thing.  Sometimes it's just less of a bad thing than other available alternatives.  Also, it is possible to mitigate the "badness" of debt in a variety of ways.  However, debt, left to its own devices, will destroy you.  You have actively to control any debt you do have.  Unlike, say, an broadly diverse investment portfolio which (in normal times), if left to its own devices, will grow and make you more wealthy.

"These would be the girls who haven't been aborted I assume?"

Well, why do you think they're so appreciative?

13

I was enjoying the blue on blue action up on the west coast when a union stormed a grain station and took hostages for a day because the company brought in workers from another union.

Hell, the union that supports the Wisconsin Education Association is even suing WEA.

Feel the desperation.

Blue on blue, it's what's for dinner.

14 "These would be the girls who haven't been aborted I assume?"

Well, why do you think they're so appreciative?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at September 14, 2011 09:12 AM (8y9MW)

This is very true!

15 Remember those French banks everyone suspected were overexposed to Greek paper but vehemently claimed they were fine?  Downgraded.

Yet, the equity markets in Europe and the futures here are up on optimism about the situation.  Where do they find it?  That the end is finally near?

16 4 Siena: Obama approval in NY9 is 43%.

Posted by: cherry pi, terrorist hostage taking SOB at September 14, 2011 09:02 AM (OhYCU)

To which my response, as always, is, "Who the hell are those 43%, and do they intend to breed?"  Because that is weapon's quality stupid.

17

Monty, here's a good article on Chrysler's war on the young

http://tinyurl.com/455bejh

 

18 Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at September 14, 2011 09:15 AM (4df7R)

Have I mentioned that many parts of Chi-Comm culture are repugnant and evil, and I think it would be better for the whole planet if such practices were eliminated forthwith?

19 Where do they find it?  That the end is finally near?

As counter-intuitive as that is, that's exactly my guess.  Most economists (I think) realize that, when a collapse is inevitable, it causes less pain and consternation if you'll just get it over with.  So I suspect they're looking forward to the collapse with some amount of relief.  Even as they stock up on canned beans and ammunition.

20

Most federal jobs training programs might be worthless, but a good Job Corps center might acutally be worth the cost.

They teach just enough for the students to get a GED, as well as teaching basic work skills like 1) getting out of bed 2) wearing clothes properly and 3) communicating in basic English.  Typically, the students also learn a basic trade like carpentry or secretarial.

21 And I call bullshit on the blame everybody for America's mess. I didn't go deep in debt, living the high life. And I voted for the most conservative candidate every chance I got. The problem is that our Constitutional federal system has been systematicly changed to a corrupt oligarchy and a large segment of society that don't contribute anything are on the dole to keep it that way. The national government has too much power and entrenched interests that changing the person at the top won't do much. Frankly, I think we should dissolve the union. There is no changing it back.

22 never underestimate the value of free porn.

23 15 Remember those French banks everyone suspected were overexposed to Greek paper but vehemently claimed they were fine?  Downgraded.

Just read that story - here's the linky for anybody interested! 

French bank ratings downgraded by Moody's

24 Who's to blame for the U.S. Economy? Everybody. Spoke a book there Monty. Here's a funny found on Leagl Insurrection. WEAC, the WI Teachers union is in a pickle. The employees of the union have unionized because of the layoffs that have taken place. Union org employees forming a union. Isn't that poetic.

25

There are no good guys in this crime story. We got our own asses into this crack -- and when I say "we", I mean the citizens of this Republic. We elected the idiots who now infest our state houses and the Federal Capitol. We chose to far outspend our personal incomes. We chose not to save for our own futures. We chose not to invest in R&D, but rather squander our money on impulse purchases. If we want to see the villain, all we have to do is look in the mirror.

While I agree, here's the thing:  What's the reward for those who did live within their means, who did save for their own retirement, who were responsible and did the Right Things?  They are getting used like The Chicken right now.  I'm thinking specifically about my parents.  They were careful and prudent and their current reward is effectively negative interest on some of their savings.  The current system is set up to reward the profligate. 

26 Oh, SNAP! on the Krugman piece at Zero Hedge. What a complete imbecile. He should probably disallow comments on all his columns, going forward.

27 18 Have I mentioned that many parts of Chi-Comm culture are repugnant and evil, and I think it would be better for the whole planet if such practices were eliminated forthwith?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at September 14, 2011 09:16 AM (8y9MW)

It is extremely likely that you have, and I agree whole-heartedly.

It's a shame, really.  All these festering hell holes that I will never visit are actually places I would LIKE to visit, because I'm a history buff.  I would love to visit China and the Middle East and most of Europe because they've got such long and storied histories.  But I won't visit them, because I don't like to visit festering hell holes.* 

_{*Also why I never plan to visit San Francisco, Detroit, Chicago, or New Orleans.}

28 Anyone else notice Instapundit has moved from snarky to outright mean to Obama? I see that as an indicator.

29 Doom?  Expected!

30

Most federal jobs training programs might be worthless, but a good Job Corps center might acutally be worth the cost.

When I worked at DOL I worked with the Job Corps.  I agree, it's a decent program as Fed programs go.  Their job placement statistics are better than any other Fed job program.

But the opportunity for corruption in that program is legendary.  While I was there 2 separate "plots" were discovered and broken up.  And I was only there for 3 years. 

Good program, it just takes constant adult supervision to keep it clean.

31 Funny you should mention Wile E.  We look forward to taking ov...er, on Europe as another customer.

32 Frankly, I think we should dissolve the union. There is no changing it back.

I'm on your side.  At the very least, it's time for a new Constitutional Convention.  But, really, I think dissolving the Union would not be nearly as bad an idea as many would have us believe.  Texas alone is bigger than many nations, with more natural resources.  California, too.  Maybe if we all went it on our own for a few years, we could get back together and form a new United States much more grounded in the principles of the original Constitution.

33

>>>But the opportunity for corruption in that program is legendary. While I was there 2 separate "plots" were discovered and broken up. And I was only there for 3 years.

When you say plots, do you mean coup attempts?

34 People who played by the rules are gonna get screwed. When we have 1500% inflation they will lose the most. But the rule abiders are not Obama's constituency.

35 WEAC, the WI Teachers union is in a pickle. The employees of the union have unionized because of the layoffs that have taken place. Union org employees forming a union. Isn't that poetic.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at September 14, 2011 09:21 AM (ZDUD4)

Okay, and in the weirdest piece of serendipity ever, I was literally - LITERALLY - wondering about this last night, as I mused on my hatred for labor unions.  "Do labor union WORKERS -- not union workers, but employees who work in the administration of the union -- belong to a union?  And if not, why not?"  And now this story out of Wisconsin. 

I love it.  The schadenfreude is so thick, you could spread it on toast.

36 The biggest indicator on how people feel about Obama- 3 years ago speaking badly of him made you racist. Now, speaking badly of him at a Starbucks gets an a-men from the disappointed liberal, a high-five from the disgruntled 26 year old working the bar, and someone even more conservative than you actually interrupting to one-up your anti-SCoaMF.

37 All federal obs programs are worthless in as much as none of them have ever worked. Usually all they boil down to is a way to funnel more largess to inner city politicians and cronies of the CBC.

The best way to have a "jobs program" for youths? Repeal the minimum wage law.

And on that score gots to go.

38 34 People who played by the rules are ALREADY GETTING screwed. FIFY

39

UPDATE 1: From Ben in the comments, Chrysler's war on the young. Take it easy on the young 'uns, you older folks; they're going to be funding your Social Security check. Or maybe they won't. Know what I mean?

That will happen about the time Gen-X is due to start leeching from the system...just as the Boomers intended.

40

When you say plots, do you mean coup attempts?

No.  But amusing though.

"Plots" as in steering very large contracts to friends and getting some money dropped back in your pocket.  It takes about $25M to establish a single Job Corps center (they are live-in programs) and then about $7-10M a year after that to run one, depending on location.

That's a lot of money to be slinging around, and the universe of people who do this work is small.  They all know each other after a while.  Familarity breeds contempt with the taxpayers money.  IYKWIMAITTYD.

41 "One email from an Obama donor asked if Democrats believe “government does it best and charities are bystanders?” ObamaÂ’s proposal, the email said, “perhaps is enough to make me a Republican after all.'"  link

Are wealthy democratic donors suddenly "getting it" cause it is affecting them?
duh

42 What's the reward for those who did live within their means, who did save for their own retirement, who were responsible and did the Right Things?

Personal pride.

It kind of reminds me of something that happened to me in, I think, 3rd grade.  Maybe something similar has happened to you.

We were out at recess (when schools still had recess) and were lining up to go back inside.  All the other kids in line (or almost all of them) were still yelling and screaming and generally being hooligans.  We'd been told to quiet down and get in line several times.  Finally, the teacher blew a gasket, and we all got in trouble (I don't remember, it doesn't take much for a 3rd grader to think the world is ending, so it was probably something terrible like getting our names on the board).

At home, I complained to my mom that it wasn't fair (I've since learned to hate that word) that I was behaving and still got in trouble.  My mom told me (paraphrasing) "Sometimes there is enough bad going on that you can't see the little good that is also going on.  No, it's not fair, but you can just look around and feel morally superior, since you know you got in trouble even though you didn't deserve it."  In short, what I would say to my son now, "Life isn't fair.  You'll just have to get used to the idea that sometimes you'll be punished for other people's bad behavior."

43 You were deceived. And now, your Republic shall fall.

44

Howz this for a t-shirt?

Got hope?

Bwahaha

45 schizophrenia?

46 OBAMA 2012: Someone Has To Vote For Him

47 Take it easy on the young 'uns, you older folks; they're going to be funding your Social Security check. Or maybe they won't. Know what I mean?

I don't see that as a "war on the young," I see as exactly what Republicans propose to do with Social Security- people to whom the promises have already been made, and who are already relying on them get those promises kept.  New people, who (in this case) haven't had those promises made or who (in the case of SS) aren't yet relying on them, get a new set of promises- hopefully much better grounded in reality.

48 oh.....lookie there it's kurious....the one who said if you give your daughter the hpv vaccine you think she's a slut......

49

OBAMA 2012: Someone Has To Vote For Him

Wow.  Good one.

I'm going to start reserving billboard space in every shithole neighborhood in the country just so no one else can have it.

Otherwise, that motto just might get him elected again.

50

oh.....lookie there it's kurious....the one who said if you give your daughter the hpv vaccine you think she's a slut......

Well, in her universe that's true.

Ever been to Long Island?

51 42, Wise Mom. Whenever I told my Mom something wasn't fair she would say "a fair is where they have farris wheels and corn dogs?" There is no such thing as fair.

52 PERRY 2012: BLAM! BLAM!
ROMNEY 2012: I'm better than Obama.
BACHMAN 2012: ONE! TERM! PRESIDENT!
HUNTSMAN 2012: Wait.  What?

OBAMA 2012: Soros isn't done yet.

This selection of bumper stickers brought to you by the Fund to Remind The Nation that Barack Obama is a Stuttering Clusterf*ck of a Miserable Failure.

53 45, Hey, it has a diagnosis.

54 you are not going to stop elizabeth warren from getting her mitts on the government, she plans to defeat scott brown

55

Whenever I told my Mom something wasn't fair she would say "a fair is where they have farris wheels and corn dogs?" There is no such thing as fair.

My high school history teacher's line was, "Nowhere in the Constitution will you find the word 'fair.'  Go ahead and look, I'll wait."

56

Anyone else see the TV ad the Obama administration is running to get the hardcore left on-board with Obama's latest round of "tax tax tax and debt debt debt" jobs plan?  The creepy ad yells at people to "READ IT" and to "SUPPORT IT". [ the left responds: yes - oh king obozo - we will with blind faith. We hate rethuglicans. we want to kill them]

Yikes. Creepy propagandists in the White House. We cannot boot this band of corrupt idiots out fast enough.

57 51 42, Wise Mom. Whenever I told my Mom something wasn't fair she would say "a fair is where they have farris wheels and corn dogs?" There is no such thing as fair.     It would seem the age of skittles, rainbows and flying ponies is coming to an end. Who knew it wouldn't last?

58 51 42, Wise Mom.

Usually.  She's a retired teacher (retired at the end of last year, in fact), so some of her opinions are skewed.

59 you might have said, "hey there's curious who four days ago said turner would win" and worked very very hard to help him get there.

60 OBAMA 2012: Because Fuck You, I'll Kill Us All

61

As Britain goes to her DOOMÂ…  WeÂ’d make a huge mistake that Britain is on the edge of that cliff alone.  Much of northern and western Europe is right there with her.  Some are closer.  We keep going the way weÂ’re going and we might actually beat Britain over the edge.

62 "Nowhere in the Constitution will you find the word 'fair.'  Go ahead and look, I'll wait."

That can't be right ...

63 Debt properly used is a beautiful thing, everyone wins. Debt as currently used is a horrible thing and leaves much harm in its wake. The key is in goal of assumption. If one is getting a long term good or wealth from taking on debt it is a wealth magnifier. The person is lending you surrendered purchasing power for low cost. The problem is we're buying gren comfort food disguised as industry.

64

A Republican just won Anthony Weiner's seat. I want to savor the moment a bit longer. Wow.

65 you might have said, "hey there's curious who four days ago said turner would win" and worked very very hard to help him get there. Hmm. I'm gonna stick with, "Go away, fatass."

66 30

When I worked at DOL I worked with the Job Corps.  I agree, it's a decent program as Fed programs go.  Their job placement statistics are better than any other Fed job program.

But the opportunity for corruption in that program is legendary.  While I was there 2 separate "plots" were discovered and broken up.  And I was only there for 3 years. 

Good program, it just takes constant adult supervision to keep it clean.

That's the problem with most federal programs--too much money and no adult supervision!

67 Hmm. I'm gonna stick with, "Go away, fatass."

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 14, 2011 09:41 AM (XE2Oo)

how big is your closet?  Is it bigger than my apartment to?

68 Nice, a Real Clear Politics link showing us eating our own.

69

That's the problem with most federal programs--too much money and no adult supervision!

Well, the problem is usually the lack of actual adults.

70 766 743 i'd make my kid take the vaccine Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Romneybots quaking everywhere) at September 12, 2011 10:12 PM (HhCkU) ah so you think you are raising a slut? but seriously, read all the literature, all the cases, not everything is online. then come back and tell us this again. Posted by: at September 12, 2011 10:14 PM (k1rwm) this is kurious......

71

A greek default would be vastly different than an Argentine default.

Argentina picked a great time to default. They did it in 2001, the had a booming economy from 2001-2007. So Argentina was re-entering a great global economy. Also commodities, of which argentina has some, were soaring in price.

Greece on the other hand would be defaulting and re-entering a global market that is in a near state of depression.

Also Greece doesn't really have anything of value. It doesn't really produce anything. Tourism and boy loving are probably the only money makers over there. And who is going to want to go on vacation in Greece when there will be soaring unemployment, riots and banditry?

Greece is screwed

72 12 Allen G., Without debt indviduals can have better tech, methodology, or efficiency supressed. Without debt governments have to live within their means.... NM I quit

73 This just in at CNN: Senator Chuck Schumar has just reported that he "UNEXPECTEDLY" found a shoe box full of NY-9 absentee ballots on his doorstep. Per chance the box contained 32.7 Million votes for the Democrat thus making it a 154.7% (D) to -34.7% (R). A major "UNEXPECTED " story here at CNN. Now back to are regular program on "Is Rick Perry Dumber then Dirt and why Obama is so Awesome".........

74

And here is another fucking thing that would be different had SCOAMF stood by our historic ally.  Now we will almost definitely lose one as a friend.  Turkey could easily become an enemy.

Smart diplomacy my ass.  People still talk as if Hillary were still something special.  She presided over this clusterfuck of a foreign policy.

75 The real problem with Federal programs is that they are ..............................Federal programs.

76 @ 67 Which closet? My bedroom? 16'9" by 6'0" Why?

77 ... slapped myself this morning when I read this at Jammiewearingfool  "DOOM: Obama Falls Below 50% Approval...In California"   ... just wanted to make sure I was awake    

78 kurious why do you hate old people, military moms, secretaries, females from small towns, people that are not from ivy league schools, people with disabilities? what is your agenda? why do you think the gardisil vaccine is for sluts?

79 Frankly, I think we should dissolve the union. There is no changing it back.

Posted by: President Chet Roosevelt at September 14, 2011 09:20 AM (yF7QS)

That would suck.  Foreign countries would start playing the states against each other and we'd still have the same gaggle of idiots running things.

80 69

That's the problem with most federal programs--too much money and no adult supervision!

Well, the problem is usually the lack of actual adults.

 

From my vantage point it is "results first and metrics later." Throwing money fast at an ill defined requirement will always lead to embarrassment. It just does.

81

The real problem with Federal programs is that they are ..............................Federal programs.

You got me there.  I allow one exception - the Department of Defense.

 

82 Your efforts are in vain. 

Your light is expended.  It is finished...

83 "ObamaÂ’s aides believe that ultimately, Boehner will defend his Speakership and his majority to the hilt, even if that means going against whomever emerges from the Republican presidential race and handing Obama a victory. "

84 79, That and those North/South border skirmishes.

85 Which closet? My bedroom? 16'9" by 6'0"

Is that the dimensions of your bedroom or the dimensions of your manhood?   

86 748 and you would know about women seeing as you call them selfish bitches and whores on this site Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Romneybots quaking everywhere) at September 12, 2011 10:10 PM (HhCkU) you have me confused with the phoenix "my closet is the size of your apartment secretary" or the "my son is my claim to fame, i have no life" mom Posted by: at September 12, 2011 10:12 PM (k1rwm) this is also kurious.....kurious hates Jane d'oh because she is proud to have raised a soldier...and she hates me because she thinks i'm a secretary and i have a closet that is bigger than her oh so very sophisticated ny overpriced apartment....

87 man, tattoo kitteh is just wrong

88 You got me there. I allow one exception - the Department of Defense. I hate nit picky but, Isn't that defense thing a Constitutional mandate or some verbage of such?

89

77 ... slapped myself this morning when I read this at Jammiewearingfool  "DOOM: Obama Falls Below 50% Approval...In California"   ... just wanted to make sure I was awake    

 

OMG, Californians want to kill the rainbow skittle shitting ponies. They certainly are inbred knuckledragging beach bums bitterly clinging to their surfboards and latte's.  

90 be very careful clicking on links provided by kurious...she doesn't look at them before she links and i could lead to ghey pron, male on male variety.......that she gets from her trusted friends......

91

I hate nit picky but, Isn't that defense thing a Constitutional mandate or some verbage of such?

Yes, I am saying it's the one program worth keeping.

92 O/T, but check out the link in my name.  It goes to an investigation of bank loans to the muslim brotherhood.  Very interesting/

93 Without debt indviduals can have better tech, methodology, or efficiency supressed.

There are a great many very wealthy people who got there by not incurring debt.  There are a large number of very, very successful companies (including, I'm pretty sure Wal-Mart) that did exactly the same thing.

Debt is inherently bad- that doesn't make it always something you should avoid.  Opium, for instance, is inherently bad- it has to be controlled very, very strictly (well, now we just don't use it, but go with me here).

Debt is a wealth destroyer, and a liquidity eater.  It will, left uncontrolled, or even just allowed to get out of hand, leave you destitute with no reliable way to get back to functional.

That said, having a small amount of very well controlled debt is not likely to cause you so much harm as to offset what good it then allows you to do through higher (temporary) liquidity.

94 83....what the hell does that even mean?

95

Yes, I am saying it's the one program worth keeping.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at September 14, 2011 09:50 AM (sbV1u)

It could use a good enema

96 11 I am pretty sure that my compost pile is a source for bio-fuels. For $535M I can make a go of this business.

Actually, anything with carbon in a reduced form is a potential biofuel.  Which includes virtually all common forms of carbon.  So every single one of our households is a potential green jobs bonanza.  Sign up for the sweet gov't gravy!

97 No, YOU have to look in the mirror.  I do NOT outspend my income. I HAVE saved for my future, and I do NOT vote for statists.  

98

The U.S. supports these Nazis with your tax dollars.

99 Wow. ace made the Real Clear Politics headline articles with his Bachmann rant. Our boy is going big time, sniff, so proud.

100 95 It means, "Click on these gay men having oral anal sex, see the link in red?"

101 It could use a good enema

So could the rest of this town.

102 Wow. ace made the Real Clear Politics headline articles with his Bachmann rant.

Our boy is going big time, sniff, so proud.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 14, 2011 09:53 AM (TMB3S)

We're gonna need a bigger portal.

Morning 'rons/'ettes.

103

HEY!

Some of us fed workers actually do work- in the classical sense of the word.

Here at Cherry Point we work very hard to support our vertical lift platforms. H-46, 53, 1, V-22 (transitional) and F-35B (please lord).

We can take a broken hulk from the battlefield or graveyard, tear it down and completely remanufature the aircraft to better than new condition for a whole lot less money than it would cost to buy a new one.

There is definitely too much paperwork and bureaucracy involved in doing this work but we in engineering and the production workers generally work very hard for our servicemembers. Sometimes we are even required to provide support to our assets during deployment, and although we don't need to be right on the front lines- we do get close enough to be targeted.

So, while I do agree that the federal machine is much to topheavy an organization- don't paint all federal employees with the same brush.

BTW- I lost $20K when I went in to federal service. I am considering leaving. More than considering actually- but I won't get into that. It really is not such a great job for the people here who do most of the work.

104 Let's not confuse "debtalism" with capitalism. The problem is that people and companies don't want to raise capital anymore, they want to issue debt.

105 100, Do you think he'll get all uppity and dump us for prettier more sober bloggers?

106

>>>There are a great many very wealthy people who got there by not incurring debt. There are a large number of very, very successful companies (including, I'm pretty sure Wal-Mart) that did exactly the same thing.

 

Debt serves a purpose, it let's people know your worthy to lend to, assuming they pay it back or keep up with payments.

America probably wouldn't exist had the Dutch not given us 10 million  after  our country was founded. It showed to the world that this new fledgling nation was in fact here to stay and that smart businessmen like the Dutch were willing to put money on it(or more specifically, they thought it was a decent investment)

 

107

What fun to be in Nevada when the R doesn't just beat the D that was a couple points ahead afew weeks back...but TROUNCES the snake. This is the Battle Born state and we are going through rebirth to 2012! 58% to 36%, Bay- BEEEEE!

This was three weeks ago:

Public Policy Polling poll from three weeks ago gave Amodei a 1 percent lead over Marshall with 43 percent of the vote. Marshall earned 42 percent of the vote.

108

.........St. Peter don't you call me 'cause I can't go, I owe my soul to the company's banksters..........

109 103 Tami, Maybe he and Breitbart can work out a "big moron" portal... Heh

110 America probably wouldn't exist had the Dutch not given us 10 million  after  our country was founded.

Yeah but the Dutch also gave us New York, so it's kind of a wash

111 We own NY-9 ... it's all good.

112 Wow. ace made the Real Clear Politics headline articles with his Bachmann rant.

Congratulations Ace.
But how do we know it wasn't the comments that caused them to link the post?  I mean, we know that's all anybody who is anybody reads, right?

113 Apropos this doom thing, I clipped a reader's response to an online article about Chrysler's recent program for cost reduction, that being a two-tier wage system in the plants, where new young workers are paid half of what the old ones get.

Thanks for pointing this out. IÂ’m in college and, yeah, it keeps me up at night that IÂ’ll be paying for the previous generationÂ’s diabetes medications and end-of-life care.
But good luck getting anyone in my generation to believe in the political process–they’re either stupid enough to believe that it can’t be changed (and it’d be the height of bad taste to try), or believe the real fight is still against racism, nuclear power, etc. And then there’s the growing subset who are being taught that well who cares how many people the country has been a haven for, some Indians’ toes were stepped on; and who cares how prosperous commoners have become here, there was slavery hundreds of years ago. If the system we have has been corrupt and a lie from the start, why participate? Boomers don’t have to worry about maxing out the credit card, we won’t protect ourselves.

Interesting perspective and spot on about how the newest generation of voters mostly has the blinders on about all things fiscal, having learned from their baby boomer teachers that the only issues are things like racism and environmentalism.

114 111, LMAO

115

All I want to know is where can I get that sweet, sweet green jobs money that Solandra got?

That's what the new Jobs Bill is all about, it's cash for democrats that somehow missed out on the first couple of trillion.

 

116

Okay, so, I'm assuming these have been discussed here and I just missed it because I've been tangling with databases and queries for the last few days, but I'll bring them up anyway because I have a toothache and it's really, REALLY setting me on edge.  So please forgive me if this is old news.

First, from the traditional DOOMy standpoint, Jeebus and the Mariana Trench, another fricking bus tour?   Will he still be using the Mausoleum Motorcade, or will he opt for something a little less morose? 

And second, from the Orwellian side of DOOM:

Obama Campaign Launches Website to Monitor Political "Attacks" on Obama: AttackWatch.com

Does referring to Our Dear Leader as a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure count as a political attack?  If so, should we report ourselves to the bolsheviks via Twitter (actual hashtag: #attackwatch)? 

(both links to Weasel Zippers)

117 No Ron, 9/11 is Not Our Fault.

Ron Paul, soon to be Ross Paul.

118 98 Doug, We all acquiesced when we allowed the GOP to not go nuts over using Keynes for direct payments to individuals as a baseline operating condition. The bomb was built in '33, a fuse was attached in '68, and the explosion is inevitable. Debt funding socialism is not healthy ever, it is there to grow productive business.

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I just love reading the leftard columnists write how that Zero is gonna win a second tern walking away, regardless of all the Monsters from the Id beating at their door.

I will swill a tankard of their sweet, salty tears next election.

120 Has the Dem in NY-9 conceded yet?

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122 Stupid sticky sock.

123 Debt serves a purpose, it let's people know your worthy to lend to, assuming they pay it back or keep up with payments.

No, actually, it doesn't.  It lets people know you're able to keep up with payments.  Especially as currently used.  The term "over-leveraged" would have been an anathema to business men just 50 years ago.  Now it's common.

Look, I'm not saying that debt is never necessary- sometimes it is.  What I am saying is this: if you treat it like "just another tool" you're playing with fire while bathing in gasoline.  Debt is not "just another tool."  It's something you should use very, very sparingly for very specific purposes and then put away (retired) as soon as possible.

More importantly, if you're having to issue debt, it's actually because people aren't sure you're going to be profitable, and they want to be able to come after your assets when you do fail.  If they were sure you would be profitable, they'd invest (that is: buy a part ownership).

124 121 Yoda, No the Sith never surrender. //Vader

125 sTevo he's a nut job.....

126 120

I just love reading the leftard columnists write how that Zero is gonna win a second tern walking away, regardless of all the Monsters from the Id beating at their door.

I will swill a tankard of their sweet, salty tears next election.

Posted by: I carry my new civility heah in my pants at September 14, 2011 10:00 AM (OlN4e)

The comments are usually gold, oh the denial

127 No thread yet on that "rat out a teabagger" site yet?  Man, we could have some good times flooding that site.

128 House Budget Committee: 3 Steps to Pro-Growth Tax Reform -- VISUALIZED

129 Obama at just 49% reelect number in California, similar in New York. He carries both easily, but no way in hell he can be doing that badly in dark blue states and carry VA, NC, IN, OH, NH, FL, CO, NV, IA. PA GOP, split the electoral votes. Smartest thing you'll ever do.

130 Does referring to Our Dear Leader as a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure count as a political attack?  If so, should we report ourselves to the bolsheviks via Twitter (actual hashtag: #attackwatch)?

We should so act like a certain commenter and blast the hashtag with complete inanities.

Thing like "Someone just said Obama was a keynesian #attackwatch."  Or, "just hrd Republican: 'Obama is worthless.' #attackwatch"

The we can get to really good ones

"Is it true Obama doesn't wear deodorant? #attackwatch"
"Why r h8rs saying Obama drinks Zima? #attackwatch"

I'm sure the 'rons and 'ettes can come up with better than that, but those are just off the top of my head.

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Wile E. Coyote, Genius

132 USDA reports that record numbers are on food stamps under Preznit Obama.  USDA is racist #attackwatch

133 >>More importantly, if you're having to issue debt, it's actually because people aren't sure you're going to be profitable, and they want to be able to come after your assets when you do fail. How does this square with the explosion in state and local debt in Texas over the last decade? Debt can be a useful tool just like equity financing and other means of raising funds but it does need to be used wisely.

134 "flinders"?

135 CAC - what will be the hotter battleground FL or OH

136 Speaking of August sales, this entire summer was incredibly weak for my business. I opened my arcade in a mall back in 2008 and aside from the first summer as that's when we opened and started in a bad location that we moved from about a year later, this summer was the weakest I've seen in gross sales so far. Summer has been the strong point of the year for us. It started about the end of April and has been weak ever since after a pretty good start to the year.

Of course with being in business throughout the entire re-depression so far I haven't been able to see what it would have been like in a healthy economic environment.

137 Posted by: JackStraw at September 14, 2011 10:11 AM (TMB3S)

Like I said, the fact that it necessary doesn't mean that it's good.  And there were a lot of people opposing much of that debt explosion.  I'm one of them, in fact.

Also, Governments aren't exactly like private entities- since Government will never show a profit, they don't have the "part ownership" (stock) tool to use, and so have to resort to debt much more often.  If a City wants to build a new school, it has to issue debt (muni-bonds) to do so.  It can't "sell stock" in the City.

But the fact is that debt will still come due, and will still have to be paid.  The best you can say about debt re: people believing in your profitability is this: lower interest rates indicate confidence in your position.

Now, in theory, a City could live within its means, setting aside monies each year for infrastructure maintenance and improvement, as well as for new projects to reduce or eliminate their need for debt.  Since no city I'm aware of has ever done such a thing, I don't know how well that would work, but I suspect it would work better than most would believe.

138 Hey, Monty, why do you lease your porn - so you can say "It isn't mine" during the raid?

139

That "Eurozone crisis porn" link ends with the thought of 17 Nancy Pelosis and 17 Hank Paulsens. Would that be a new genre in porn? GIWFEWAD* porn?

* Grandmother I Wouldn't F Even With Ace's Dick.

140 "Why r h8rs saying Obama drinks Zima? #attackwatch"

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at September 14, 2011 10:07 AM (8y9MW)

Okay, I very nearly snorted coffee through my nose reading that.  LOL!

141 Still no word on the PA Fed Circuit Court smacking down Obamacare?  Or is this just the all-candidate destruction, all the time blog now?

142 USDA reports that record numbers are on food stamps under Preznit Obama. USDA is racist #attackwatch Hey those foodstamps are saving and creating jobs wingnuts!

143 I opened my arcade in a mall back in 2008 and aside from the first summer as that's when we opened and started in a bad location that we moved from about a year later, this summer was the weakest I've seen in gross sales so far. I think your problem is that you were supposed to open your arcade in a mall in 1982! Next tip: open your internet cafe in 1998.

144 >>he's a nut job.....

Watchin' the game drinking a Bud, True, True...

145 Arcade Hero, If you're for real (and the link in your name makes it appear so), then here is a suggestion: Stand up a bunch of classic Galaga machines and figure out a way to get people of Korean descent into your arcade. Warning: Doing this may violate a number of international weapons bans.

146 what will be the hotter battleground FL or OH Posted by: Jean at September 14, 2011 10:13 AM (WkuV6) Florida isn't a battleground. Goes to the GOP easily.

147 Still nobody talking about the Fy2012 budget.

148 monty, thanks for these posts i really do appreciate them.

"By now only the cream of the naive, Kool-Aid intoxicated crop believes that the US is not in either a deep recession, or, realistically, depression. For anyone who may still be on the fence, here is David Rosenberg's latest letter which will seal any doubts for good."

149 @147 - Yes I'm for real. I also blog Arcadeheroes.com, I'm very much a big arcade fan and small biz person.

I have a few classic machines (Asteroids, Crystal Castles, TMNT, Street Fighter II, Warlords) but for the most part they almost make nothing. They are nice filler at the end of the day and it's because I think that it's far too easy to get your hands on classic arcade games via emulators, iPad/iPhone, XBLA, etc.

The games that bring people in are the new stuff like Terminator and Pac-Man Battle Royale (new 4p competitive version of Pac-Man). I've also got an awesome new game on the way that's kind of an old style shooter with modern ideas blended in

150 better link for rosenberg's letter

151 @152 Just in case you ever come back to this thread: In 1985, I left Korea for college. Video arcades were very popular, and there was a variety of different titles, and they were all 100 Won to play (about fifteen cents at the time). To the best of my knowledge, the games were made using pirated ROMs, and anything using more than a standard one-way or four-way joystick with one or two buttons was not available. I visited Korea in 1987, and the arcades were still there, but they were all packed with Galaga machines and they cost only 50 Won. There were very few open consoles, and people played these machines like zombies. Fast-forward to 2003, and I was regularly flying into Huntsville on business. They had a Galaga machine in the terminal. While waiting for a delayed flight on one trip, I heard people speaking loudly in Korean. Sure enough, there were two Korean men playing Galaga, and they stayed on it for at least an hour until the flight finally boarded. Cultural or genetic? I have no idea.

152 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

153 Wow this is soo helpful I have been trying to figure this out on my own for a long time now. Hopefully making this change will help encourage discussion on my blog.

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