1 In an industry where razor-thin margins are the norm, Apple was able to carve out 10% profit margins on a regular basis.

20+%, more like it.

But remember, XOM are the robber barons.

2

money that can't be paid out, won't be, regardless of what the courts decide:

Yeah, it'll be like those class action lawsuit notices you get in the mail: "You won, but you get BUPKES..."

3 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

4 I see some guy called Transformer has won the Nobel Prize for Literature. Optimus Prime hardest hit.

_{/sips coffee, eyes finally focus.}

Oh.

5 For anyone wondering where I've been the last couple of days (I know: none of you, but leave me my delusions): Having someone try to break into your house sucks.

6 For anyone wondering where I've been the last couple of days (I know: none of you, but leave me my delusions): Having someone try to break into your house sucks. Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at October 06, 2011 08:55 AM (8y9MW) I swear if I knew it was your house..........?

7 Steve Jobs' vision is the reason that I, and many many MANY talented people, even HAD their careers. Without him, I'd still be doing pasteup. I don't even know what to say today. I knew it was coming; it still is a crushing loss. For all of us. I hope he had some good proteges over there.

8 6, Holy crap, were you home?

9 7. While you were gone?? or home?

10

Batman was devised in 1938.  Iron Man, 1963.  Nobody in the media looks to the private sector for their heroes anymore.

A corrollary:  In shows like NCIS and the like, all the bad guys are white men.  Most of them are/were in the military or are/were military contractors.  As far as they're concerned, islam only exists to provide red herrings.

11 Someday a real rain will come and wash all this scum off the streets.

12
iDied

13 The government pisses away more of your tax dollars chasing the green unicorn.

I like to phrase that as "Worshiping the Green Goddess".

Think Moloch, the Minotaur, etc.  False god, demands human sacrifice; the Green Goddess is behind the Population Control bunch, which is parent to all the 'Gaia over humans' ideologies.

And there are plenty of lives which have been (and will be) sacrificed.

14 You're nice Blackorchid. I mourned for the requisite 15 minutes, said nice things, then texted the BFFs that "Jobs lost under Obama", and woke this morning already sick of the Jobs requiem. Guess he's partly to thank for my short attention span.,

15 There are two public sector groups that are always vilified in the movies, the military and the CIA.

16 6, Holy crap, were you home?

No, it was during the day, so everyone was gone- thank God.  And the cop who came by says it was probably some stupid kid- anyone half-way competent would have gotten in without trouble, and this idiot kicked my front door 4 or 6 times and then had to give up.

For the record- with the exception of metal doors with reinforced door-jams, it should take one or two kicks, maximum, to kick open a door.  Even an exterior one.

However, he did pretty well demolish the door itself and the door-jam was split (he only needed to kick maybe once more to get in.  Thank goodness for incompetence), so I spent all day Tuesday running around trying to find someone who could fix my door ASAP (BTW- use Home Depot if this ever happens to you: cheaper than Lowes and they're willing to guarantee a "Measure and Secure" at minimum same-day.), then yesterday was spent waiting for the installer to come put the new (steel) door in.

17 dad29 at October 06, 2011 09:01 AM Hey Dad, Mrs.Sailor is a big fan of your blog. You would know her as neomom.

18 17, When someone screws with my stuff I get all ragey inside. I start devising booby traps that decapitate people. Then I calm down, talk to the neighbors and work to increase security.

19 15. I have actually never been this sad at a "celebrity" passing. I just feel this crushing loss. Big shoes to fill. Maybe in a century or two. I need Guy Kawasaki to cheer me up or something. My first Mac was an SE-30. Had that thing for years. I tend to keep them around here, for the kids . . . I am really serious, my friend from college is at Pixar, everyone I know agrees - we would not have had careers without him. The world is a lesser place without him. but you guys go ahead and keep ripping him. it's hilarious.

20 HeartbrokenBlackOrchid at October 06, 2011 It is crushingly sad. There is so little in the way of new tech and people that step up and do great things. That is a loss for the entire world. Maybe one of the numerous kids he mentored will step up.

21 When someone screws with my stuff I get all ragey inside. I start devising booby traps that decapitate people. Then I calm down, talk to the neighbors and work to increase security.

Yeah, we let our neighbors know, which is about the best we can do.  Once the door is fully installed (the store sent some of the wrong materials for the trim, so the installer has to get the right stuff and come back tomorrow), we're going to buy a door-jam reinforcement kit (costs about 70 bucks- it should be well worth it).

What worries me is that my wife is going to start saying home with our kids next year- and she has been highly resistant to the idea of purchasing any firearm.  I think this scared her enough (what if she and the kids had been home, etc., etc.) that we'll be getting at least a pump action shotgun for the house.

22 The Occupy Wall Street fools are as fine a collection as I've ever seen of what I call "Granola People": like granola, a mixed assortment of flakes, fruits, and nuts.

23 However, he did pretty well demolish the door itself and the door-jam was split (he only needed to kick maybe once more to get in.  Thank goodness for incompetence), so I spent all day Tuesday running around trying to find someone who could fix my door ASAP (BTW- use Home Depot if this ever happens to you: cheaper than Lowes and they're willing to guarantee a "Measure and Secure" at minimum same-day.), then yesterday was spent waiting for the installer to come put the new (steel) door in.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at October 06, 2011 09:03 AM (8y9MW)

Thank God no one was there.

Now, go steal a neighbors 'Security installed' sign and put it on your door or mailbox.  Much cheaper than actually installing the whole system and just as deterring.

24 Now, go steal a neighbors 'Security installed' sign and put it on your door or mailbox. Much cheaper than actually installing the whole system and just as deterring. LOL, you are the Quenn of pragmatic.

25 The Occupy Wall Street fools are as fine a collection as I've ever seen of what I call "Granola People": like granola, a mixed assortment of flakes, fruits, and nuts.

Apparently they're coming to Dallas, too.  Yay.  I almost wish I could take the time to go mock them.  Maybe I could make protest signs that say things like "Prosperity = Greed" or "Take your jobs and shove 'em!"

26 From the earlier thread, but if John E. is out there and is taking requests: How about a graphic comparing the lives and achievements of a) Steve Jobs b) the SCOAMF-in-chief Now THAT would be teh coolness.

27 Now, go steal a neighbors 'Security installed' sign and put it on your door or mailbox.  Much cheaper than actually installing the whole system and just as deterring.

Actually, we had one (from a system we don't have monitored for a variety of reasons): it got blown away in some wind-storm or something in late spring or early summer.

28 but you guys go ahead and keep ripping him. it's hilarious.

Posted by: HeartbrokenBlackOrchid at October 06, 2011 09:06 AM (SB0V2)

I haven't ripped on Jobs at all.  What I do think though, is that comparing his death to Martin Luther King Jr., Lennon and JFK (as Wozniak did last night) is incredibly wrong.  Those three men were cut down in their prime by assassin's bullets.  Comparing Kennedy's or King's death to Jobs' is shortsighted. 

Every bit of technology today comes either from Apple, or from companies who designed their products to compete with Apple.  Jobs' fingerprints are on everything we use. 

Comparing him to an assassinated civil rights leader or an assassinated president, though... bridge too far.

29

Proving once again that the graveyard is FILLED with indispensable people.

That heartless (to everyone without aspergers) statement aside, global warming is supposed to come early this year. I give the protesters another 2 weeks till it aint so fun.

30

On Jobs' passing:  I am not an Apple fangirl but I deeply respect what Jobs created.  He was a genius at what he did.  Not to mention, without his direct cash investment, Pixar would have died before any of the movies came out and a world without Pixar is just.  No.  No, I don't to think about no Edna Mode. 

Also this destroys that whole bitchy let's cure cancer/AIDS/whatever by giving it to Jobs and Gates and we'll have a cure in six months.  If anyone could have figured out/had the people to figure out how to cure pancreatic cancer, it was Jobs.  It got him too.  Fuck cancer.

31 Steve Jobs died? That billionaire who was flown around like a maharajah on a corporate jet, who made billions by ripping off poor consumers with crummy gimmicks? My only regret is that he died before I had a chance to raise his income tax rate to 100%.

32 No, I don't to think about no Edna Mode.

Ditto.

Fuck cancer.

Also ditto.

33 LOL. The debt clock has crashed.

34 Also from my earlier (buried) posting, while everyone is mourning the loss of Steve Jobs, this man died 10 years ago in obscurity yet he profoundly changed the world for everyone: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malcom_McLean I wouldn't have known had I not remembered a sidebar posting about him I saw right here a few months ago.

35

Nothing quite like the smell of dirty hippy in the morning on the walk in to Wall street with the rest of the 1%'ers... (although someone should contact my lawyer and mortgage company because they don't seem to believe it- the gall of them to ask for pay stubs, bank statements and blood samples for a re-fi). 

The stink is kind of like the old Folgers commercials, it stings the nostrils and if you weren't awake before, you are now. 

36 sorry to hear about that allen......glad they didn't get in

37 As discussed in the wee hours of the morning his 7 billion (death) taxed at the going rate of 50% will produce exactly 17 green jobs through February, Eight whittle chillen will get health care, and 2 dozen muffins are being made available (on a first come fist served basis).

38 What worries me is that my wife is going to start saying home with our kids next year- and she has been highly resistant to the idea of purchasing any firearm.  I think this scared her enough (what if she and the kids had been home, etc., etc.) that we'll be getting at least a pump action shotgun for the house.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at October 06, 2011 09:09 AM (8y9MW)

My parents have been robbed while they were out of town.  Thousands of dollars of priceless (sentimental) jewelry and heirlooms were taken.  Thank God they chose to lock the dogs in a bathroom instead of killing them. 

I bought my own sidearm when I was flying in the service (I didn't like the idea that if I ever needed it, I would be holding a weapon I'd never fired) and kept it when I got out.  My parents' house is why.

Girlfriend is adamantly opposed to all firearms.  Her best friend was killed in his sleep (along with his two brothers and mother) by their father, who then killed himself when she was in high school.  She's insisting that I get rid of it when we get married and move in together because of her (admittedly irrational) phobia.

I don't like the idea of leaving my home (and family, when they show up) in such a position as to be not defensible. 

Thoughts from the group?

39 I have actually never been this sad at a "celebrity" passing. I just feel this crushing loss.

I'm wondering how Apple is going to survive his loss. Other companies have survived the loss of their founders: Disney, HP, and others. But it's rare -- the vision, talent, and passion tend to bleed away. Just look at what happened to Apple after they ousted Jobs in 1985 -- they were moribund and nearly bankrupt a decade later. Jobs comes back, and now Apple is one of the richest and most well-positioned companies in the world. That wasn't an accident, or a coincidence. That was Steve Jobs.

I can't say I liked the guy, though. He was abrasive, single-minded, and he advocated a vision of technology that I never could quite get on board with: a world were users were supplicants to technology rather than masters of it. (He always hated to allow users to service their own machines; he'd deliberately use Torx screws and weird flanges and hinges on the cases to discourage tinkering.) However, it was ultimately his vision that prevailed -- from the iPod to the iPad to the iMac, millions of people bought into his view of a computer as a stylish plastic and glass sculpture that you sent in to the experts when it broke.

Steve Jobs wasn't a technical guy (he had Woz for that stuff). He was the visionary, the prophet carrying the message to the people. He knew what he wanted (fewer cables! no arrow keys! only one button! gestures!) and he insisted on getting it. His genius was in getting everyone else to follow his lead.

I doubt he would have been anywhere near as successful as he was if he'd been a nicer or more accomodating person.

40 sorry to hear about that allen......glad they didn't get in

Thanks.

And, on that note- I need to catch up on all the work I've missed for the last two days... so I'll be in-and-out today, but mostly out.

41 30, My Daughter has aspergers, I get your joke. haha

42

Still, money that can't be paid out, won't be, regardless of what the courts decide.

You know, we discuss various rulings that may lead to a total collapse of faith in the US judicial system (*spit* Kelo *spit*, the shafting of the secured interest holders in the GM bankruptcy, the possibility of the upholding of the individual mandate by the Supremes, etc.) but this is what is going to do it.  The courts will either rule that what are clearly contractual rights aren't or the company/municipality/whatevs that is told to pay is going to ignore the order because the money does not exist.  That's going to lead to all kinds of awfulness.

I would like to reiterate that I am now a full fledged member of Team Meteor.

 

43 Observation about the bi-pedal vermin down on Wall Street. I noticed they are now asking for donations of food, clothing, lawyers (!!!) etc. (asking for the very things that they won't actually work for. hmm...) Hell, why don't they just do like they do in London and smash a few windows? That's a rhetorical question; if they did that, the NYPD would crack a few skulls, unlike the emasculated PC London bobbies.

44 LOL, you are the Quenn of pragmatic.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at October 06, 2011 09:10 AM (ZDUD4)

The guy that sold us our system was going on an on about how a  street where all the houses but one had 'security systems signs' and the only one to get robbed was the one without the sign.  So I looked at him and asked, 'So, how much for just your signs?'

45 32 Steve Jobs died? That billionaire who was flown around like a maharajah on a corporate jet, who made billions by ripping off poor consumers with crummy gimmicks? My only regret is that he died before I had a chance to raise his income tax rate to 100%. Posted by: Pres. Barack Obama at October 06, 2011 09:14 AM (Z7ypG) The vultures from the IRS are already circling the Jobs home. Hope he hid those billions under a big mattress.

46 38 (on a first come fist served basis)
__________

I know it's a typo, but I like it.

47 J.J. Sefton at October 06, 2011 09:21 AM I don't think the Gov. will be getting much from that crew. I imagine he could afford a few shelters for his wealth that us regular folk can't imagine.

48 That's a rhetorical question; if they did that, the NYPD would crack a few skulls, unlike the emasculated PC London bobbies.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 06, 2011 09:19 AM (UlUS4)

I'd bet my next check that they wouldn't.  Can you imagine the pressure the NYPD is under to NOT engage the hippies at all?  The slightest act, regardless of provocation, will result in millions of dollars worth of lawsuits, and an escalation in the 'riots.'

49

I am Ronald Reagan. I mean, I haaaate ronald Reagan, but I am just like him. This is the latest dishonest ball of crap I am pushing on the rubes. Please love me because I am Ronald Reagan! Reagan lowered taxes and I want to raise them. See? we are twins!

Worship me. I am the lord obama, and I have no problem lying to everyone. *wink*

50 I don't think the Gov. will be getting much from that crew. I imagine he could afford a few shelters for his wealth that us regular folk can't imagine. Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at October 06, 2011 09:23 AM (ZDUD4) iTrust iOffShore i1000Acountants/Lawyers

51 30 I give the protesters another 2 weeks till it aint so fun.
_____

Naw, they will have knitted themselves some sleeping bags by then.

52 Sorry to hear about your door Allen.   I recommend an intimidating dog, one that knows the word MATAR! 

53 52 Naw, they will have knitted themselves some sleeping bags by then. I respectfully disagree. Knitting requires work and concentration. Your not gonna find much of that in the group.

54

New U.S. claims for unemployment benefits rose less than expected last week, according to a government report on Thursday that hinted at an improvement in labor market conditions.

Initial claims for state unemployment benefits climbed 6,000 to a seasonally adjusted 401,000, the Labor Department said, from a revised 395,000 the prior week.

The jobless rate is seen steady at 9.1 percent.

 

You know what this economy needs? A fair living wage of $20 an hour whether you are working or not. That would turn the economy right around. Get it out of the ditch or the headwinds or whatever oh and make everything free so there is no greed. That will fix everything

55 Posted by: Steve Jobs at October 06, 2011 09:00 AM (C8hzL)

Sick, sick, sick!

And really, really funny!

56 Now is not the time for profits!

57 So, I took a bendryl and sacked out early yesterday.  Any kind of news happen that I missed?

58 I respectfully disagree. Knitting requires work and concentration. Your not gonna find much of that in the group.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at October 06, 2011 09:29 AM (ZDUD4)

The crunchy love to knit.  I'm not sure why it started, but it did.

59 59, I stand corrected. Hemp yarn?

60

When I had a job for 3 months in the evil private sector, I felt like a spy behind eneomy lines.

 

61

Everyday lurker, occasional commenter here - the news of Steve Jobs death has had a worldwide impact - one nerdy blog I read here in Oz has absolutely gone nuts with pages and pages of distraught Apple fans in mourning

We have a very nice Apple store here in the Sydney CBD - all glass walls , a few storeys high and always packed with people - wouldn't be surprised to see flower and candle tributes outside on the footpath

 HeartbrokenBlackOrchid - best wishes , don't let anyone belittle your own sense of loss

 

62 I tried being a Schumpeterian for a while but schumps are expensive and don't taste nearly as good as hamburgers.

63

I am Ronald Reagan.

 

64 In an industry where razor-thin margins are the norm, Apple was able to carve out 10% profit margins on a regular basis.

20+%, more like it.

But remember, XOM are the robber barons.

Posted by: Waterhouse at October 06, 2011 08:52 AM (umH4+)

AAPL - 30% operating margin, 23% profit margin in 2010.

65 The crunchy love to knit.  I'm not sure why it started, but it did.

It's the new macrame.

We have a very nice Apple store here in the Sydney CBD - all glass walls , a few storeys high and always packed with people - wouldn't be surprised to see flower and candle tributes outside on the footpath

It's already happening at stores here in the US.

Given how much time CNBC has devoted to Jobs' passing you'd think Apple owned them instead of GE.

66 AllenG - we'll be getting at least a pump action shotgun for the house. - talk to us here before you buy.  How much did the same day security door install cost you?

67 Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at October 06, 2011 09:09 AM (8y9MW)

The NRA has gun training specifically tailored to women. That might help your wife feel more comfortable with weapons in the house.

My wife wasn't thrilled either when she discovered that I love guns and have many of them, but a gun safe assuaged her concerns very quickly. The idea of all of them (except the home self-defense H&K USP 40SW) being safely locked up in a 600 pound safe made her feel better. I have no idea why, but that isn't the first or last thing I don't understand about women.

68 iMeh.  (Sorry, but it's true.)

69 While I'm not an Apple fangirl, I was sad to hear of Steve Jobs' passing.  The world of technology would have an entirely different landscape if Apple hadn't come along.  I trust that he'll be remembered as the successful entrepreneur and innovator that he was. 

70

I think even though Cain is black, he'll get my vote.

(oh bad joke, bad. joke.)

71 I stand corrected. Hemp yarn?

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at October 06, 2011 09:31 AM (ZDUD4)

Hippies like wool.  Really, really like wool.

72 We've switched their normal marihuana with Folger's Crystals.  Let's see if they notice.

73

we'll be getting at least a pump action shotgun for the house

All's well that ends well.

 

74

Hey.   Not everyone is DOOMed.

75 So I'm thinking that Occupy Wall Street has real legs, and will become more organized, funded by the unions, and will persist for a long time.  My hope is that it can be painted as the face of the democrat party.

Am looking for a really big "occupy" blow up in Chicago next summer.

It has the potential for really suppressing the dem turnout, in my opinion.

76 The greastest inventor that had the most impact on the modern world is also probably the least celebrated and least known by the average person. Jobs passing and the accolades given makes me think how you can't rely on man to accurately write history. Tesla created the modern world.

77 Jiminy H. Christmas on a frigging cracker.  Another bus tour?!  Because the last couple were such roaring successes?  

78 Tesla created the modern world. I don't know about that but Cowboy of the modern day was pretty good.

79

10% profit margins ?  I'm curious when the last time Apple's profit margin was that LOW.

Their current margins are now, and have been for a while, in the 25-30% range.  Which is obnoxious when compared to the allegedly high profits of Exxon Mobile, for example, where they are lucky to make 10% profit margin, or the deadly and outrageous profits of health insurance companies that run in the 3-5% range. 

80 we'll be getting at least a pump action shotgun for the house.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at October 06, 2011 09:09 AM (8y9MW)

A shotgun would fit the bill, or a pistol.  If your wife is worried about the kids getting it, for a pistol at least, you can get a fingerprint safe that only you and her can open.

81

73We've switched their normal marihuana with Folger's Crystals. Let's see if they notice.

---

Which reminded me of the Chris Farley Schillervision Hidden Camera skit, which would be excellent to parody the parody by adapting to a rager on Wall St. being told the bathroom was for paying customers.

82 AllenG - http://preview.tinyurl.com/69zd4r

83 The traders don't think DOOM is going to overtake Apple, stock is down less than $1.00 ($377.39/share).

84 @6
Sorry to hear that, AllenG. 

85 Their current margins are now, and have been for a while, in the 25-30% range. Which is obnoxious when compared to the allegedly high profits of Exxon Mobile, for example, where they are lucky to make 10% profit margin, or the deadly and outrageous profits of health insurance companies that run in the 3-5% range. Posted by: deadrody at October 06, 2011 09:42 AM (l9UkQ) I love Apple products. The only problem is when you go to an Apple Store, you ned a baseball bat to get a spot in line. Actually people are pretty nice and well behaved but what a crowd all the time.

86 I've never even had a twinge of sadness at any celebrity passing (except one). Sorry. I almost feel wrong at intruding on their personal friends and family grief. I only fell apart when Reagan died. That was like my whole young adulthood and concept of self and country were embodied in him and the world was changing away from what he represented and what that generation represented and was slipping away. Turns out, it was really slipping away.

87

(WSJ) Families were more dependent on government programs than ever last year.

Nearly half, 48.5%, of the population lived in a household that received some type of government benefit in the first quarter of 2010, according to Census data. Those numbers have risen since the middle of the recession when 44.4% lived households receiving benefits in the third quarter 2008.

The share of people relying on government benefits has reached a historic high, in large part from the deep recession and meager recovery, but also because of the expansion of government programs over the years.

 

Who says Barry is a failure? The bastard is succeeding in making the country fail

88 39: She blames the gun, and not the person who flipped out?

Either help her get over that, or...well, that's your call.

89 Posted by: polynikes - Texan for Romney at October 06, 2011 09:41 AM (3YCP0)

Maybe so...but Norman Borlaug fed it!

90

Tesla created the modern world.

George Westinghouse and Thomas Edison just called, to say, "Hello".

[Also Joseph Lister, Alexander Fleming, Alexander Graham Bell, Henry Ford, John Rockefeller, Harvey Firestone, Guglielmo Marconi, Philo Farnsworth, and, of course, Wilbur & Orville themselves.]

 

91 Maybe so...but Norman Borlaug fed it!

Glad somebody else remembers him.

92 I have a finger safe that holds a shotgun, mounts on a wall - press in the code and it drops a M1 Super 90 into your hand.  Very cathartic.

93 CharlieDildo you are correct. At least he was recognized for what he did.

94 George Westinghouse and Thomas Edison just called, to say, "Hello".

F--- Edison, he owes me money.  And the credit for the work I did for him.

95 I have a finger safe that holds a shotgun, mounts on a wall - press in the code and it drops a M1 Super 90 into your hand.  Very cathartic.

Posted by: Jean at October 06, 2011 09:53 AM (WkuV6)

Do they have one that just opens on the fingerprint?  I have one in pistol size, so even in the dark I just put my finger on the reader, and the door pops open - no trying to type in a code. 

96 How much did the same day security door install cost you?

Just the door plus install ran a about 550.

I love guns and have many of them, but a gun safe assuaged her concerns very quickly.

My plan is a CCW for myself (I felt very naked checking out my house to make sure the bad-guy wasn't hanging around in my back yard or something), and a pump-action for the home.  I'll want a gun-safe because my kids are still too little to understand (2 year olds and guns do not mix).  I want a bio-metric or push-code one, though, because I don't want them fighting with a spin-dial lock if they need the shotgun quickly.

97 #91 is exactly what I'm talking about. Apparently ignorant of exactly what Tesla did, specifically for the two men that said Hello. By the way, Marconi was not the invented of the radio.

98

I have one in pistol size, so even in the dark I just put my finger on the reader, and the door pops open - no trying to type in a code.

Serious or facetious?

If the former, what's a ballpark retail price?

Thx.

 

99

Here's the front page of today's Telegraph, a Sydney newspaper

Big tribute to one of your own special entrepeneurs (a threatened species I reckon)

Hope the link works - never know with tiny!

49 pages of tributes plus some criticisms on the Apple thread on the nerdy Oz blog I read

One comment, Apple had more holdings at Steve Jobs death than the US Treasury????

 

 

100 92, some kraut named deisel, too

101 And, of course, Steve Jobs would never have succeeded if the Government hadn't provided him with hundreds of millions of dollars in start-up capital so he could build his vision.

Oh, wait, that didn't happen, did it?

102 I've never understood the  idea about having a totally safe door (although i know thieves and home invaders use them, go figure). my home has floor to ceiling windows throughout, we're like a hostile take-over waiting to happen here.

just musing over here in my corner.

103 AllenG, glad you weren't home and everyone is safe.

104 F--- Edison, he owes me money.  And the credit for the work I did for him.

Posted by: Zombie Nicola Tesla at October 06, 2011 09:56 AM (GBXon)

Yep. I agree. Edison was a hack who stole the majority of his ideas from other inventors. Set back the technology advance of the USA by twenty years. Him and Sarnoff.

105 BTW, SCOAMF is talking again at 11AM. Vanity thy name is Bumbles.

106 I'll give Jobs credit for being smart enough to become involved in Green Energy.

iRIP

107 Vashta - don't know, never looked into the biometrics

AllenG - Thanks, careful with the pump action - make sure your wife is very comfortable stroking it.  Short stroking due to lack of upper body strength and/or stress is a problem with pumps.  Since the weapon is stored inside, the additional concerns about cleaning and reliability associated with a semi are ameliorated (leaving cost).

108 107I'll give Jobs credit for being smart enough to become involved in Green Energy.

iRIP

Posted by: Fritz at October 06, 2011 10:14 AM (/ZZCn)

Would that be iRIP or iBENDOVER?

109 The Robot Devil, I wonder if He will come out and encourage the poor souls that are despondent over the evil wall street and corporate gangs stealing all the jobs, money and stuff.

you know ,agitate.

110 I've never understood the  idea about having a totally safe door (although i know thieves and home invaders use them, go figure). my home has floor to ceiling windows throughout, we're like a hostile take-over waiting to happen here.

Well, someone who really wants into your house will get in- there's not much you can do about that.  On the other hand, when you have some punk knocking-over houses for fun, you can reward them with a broken foot when they try to kick down your door.

Since the weapon is stored inside, the additional concerns about cleaning and reliability associated with a semi are ameliorated

Yeah, but there's something so intimidating at hearing the sound of a shotgun pump being worked.  I don't actually want to shoot anybody, so- if such a situation occurs- I consider it a bigger win if I can just scare them off.

She's used pump-actions before (skeet shooting with friends), so I know she's good with them.

111

Serious or facetious?

If the former, what's a ballpark retail price?

Thx.

 

Posted by: Paul McCartney is Dead at October 06, 2011 09:59 AM (M1IO5)

Seriously.  Gunvault brand, about $300.  Will hold 2 pistols plus an extra magazine or two.  Place your index finger on the reader, push one button with your middle finger, and spring loaded door pops open.  Secure, yet quick to operate in the dark.

112 Posted by: Jean at October 06, 2011 09:53 AM (WkuV6)

Share with the class please!

113 98 #91 is exactly what I'm talking about. Apparently ignorant of exactly what Tesla did, specifically for the two men that said Hello. By the way, Marconi was not the invented of the radio.   Nope, he wasn't.  In fact a federal court decided that Tesla was indeed the inventor of the radio.    It really is tragic that when most people hear the name "Tesla" they think of a late 80s - early 90s heavy metal hair band.  Nikola Tesla was perhaps the most important inventor in American history.  He came up with the concepts for radar, sonar, alternating current, the first AC engine, and wireless transmission of energy through the air. 

114 CBD - pretty sure it is a gunvault brand safe, but it isnt on their website.  Have to check when I get home tonight.

115 Posted by: Jean at October 06, 2011 10:38 AM (WkuV6)

Thanks, I appreciate it. I just checked the GunVault site also.

116 Fuck Marconi.

117 99

I have one in pistol size, so even in the dark I just put my finger on the reader, and the door pops open - no trying to type in a code.

Serious or facetious?

If the former, what's a ballpark retail price?

Thx.

 

Posted by: Paul McCartney is Dead at October 06, 2011 09:59 AM (M1IO5)

Biometric gun safes are serious, but they ain't cheap.

118 114 He came up with the concepts for radar, sonar, alternating current, the first AC engine, and wireless transmission of energy through the air.
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Not to mention the earthquake machine, the forerunner of HAARP.

119 Just had to endure Wendel great pyramid Goler previewing jugeared jackass CF.

He will talk about his "jobs bill". IOW this is pure damn campaign speech billed as a press conference. Fox is billing it as a "face off" with reporters.

Who are they trying to kid?

120 #117 unfortunately Tesla had to sue your ass too for infringing on his patents.

121 There comes a point where willfully denying what's there right in front of your face, choosing to dismiss it as an event that will pass soon enough with no effects, turns the tenets of a belief system into a fatal catechism. The build-up is gradual, but then one too many myths are loaded onto it, and, without further warning ... sudden and cascading failure. That could already have happened, and it's just taking some time for cracks to open up wide enough to be seen by more than say, 5% who've gone so long without work they're unemployable, another 5% who've just lost or are about to lose work - and right now is being talked about among those who see the thing widening to engulf them too, like unionized workers and brotherhood workers (fire fighters, cops etc). Or, it could be happening now, or be about to happen; it depends how you want to look at those cracks. There's now lots of reports that many of the organizers that have now got themselves into the OWS movement, helping to turn it bigger and also into the Occupy Every Where OEW, movement, spent a lot of time studying what the Tea Party movement did in 2009, and putting those lessons into action. Libs & progs & the Dems mocked that movement for months, & learned to regret that, particularly in the form of the 2010 national and state elections. Someone is going to have to explain why conservatives & Republicans knocking this one will be able to avoid the same fate, at least. (Tell you what: I'm bookmarking this thread, in case any of you feel like mocking me some more, as you will here & now, down the line a year or so - and if so, I'll be more than happy to get mocked some more. On the other hand, history, both long ago and as recent as two years back, says what's going to happen is I'm going to end up getting to say, Told you so, and not liking it one little bit.)

122 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

123

So, what exactly are we getting out of a "free trade" deal with Korea?  Other than greater unemployment, that is?  Based on what I've read the main exports we plan on sending over there are cars and ag produce.  However, the Koreans plan to keep the cars out via fuel economy standards, and are notorious for making sure that what little food we ship them now has to wait on the dock as long as possible, to maximize the chance of spoilage.  This is done to minimize the competitiveness of our exporters.

The fact is that there is no hope of ever setting up an equitable "free trade" deal other than, possibly, with Europeans - who are the only other people on earth who actually intend to abide by the agreements they make.  Every other people see agreements as nothing more than a list of rules to break.  Some are juts more overt about it than others.

124 I've never understood the  idea about having a totally safe door

I just want something that will keep the feds from breaking down my door and seizing my guitars and Tesla coils.

125 I'd want a different implementation but I cannot find much fault with the intent of Orszag's idea to get foreclosed housing stock into the rental market. Right now, where I live rentals are moving up and making things increasingly tough for renters in places that have been foreclosed. The renter did nothing wrong but is still forced to leave when their lease is up and faced with a substantial increase in cost for a comparable place. My family is in exactly this position. We've had no meaningful feedback to our queries and may be forced to become squatters despite not having had a late rental payment in the seven years we've been here.

There are a hell of a lot of houses sitting empty and decaying in LA County. The banks don't want to put them all on the market for fear of reality striking and prices dropping to where they should really be. Making those houses into rental units would affect prices, too but not nearly as much while doing a lot of good for people struggling with their expenses.

126 You really make it seem so uderstandable with your presentation but I find this topic before really hard to understand. It seems too complicated and very broad for me.

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