November 09, 2011
— Monty
Signposts on the way to DOOM: the failure of the State to protect its law-abiding citizens. This is the breaking of the civilizational compact, and is as clear an indication as you’re ever going to get that things are spinning out of control. When the barbarians can act with impunity, or even with the complicity of the State, then the whole notion of “a nation of laws” is put to rout.
Quan's command center call was the latest example of the mayor's resistance to using police force on demonstrators, a position that is being reinforced both by her closest advisers and her family.In fact, eyewitnesses say Quan's husband was among the banner-wavers blockading the port in a nonviolent action earlier Wednesday.
Ohio joins California in the “boned by choice rather than by circumstance” working-group of the LOTB. If you’ve ever spent time in Akron or Cleveland or Cinncinnati, this should come as no surprise at all. For Ohio Morons who despair of fiscal sanity ever returning to their state, look at it this way: this will hasten the day of DOOM, but also hasten the reckoning to come after. It’s a hard blow to Kasich, though.
Deficit accounting is a Ponzi scheme. How many government-run Ponzi schemes do we have now? I kind of lost count.
Banks started down the road to perdition when they started trading for their own book, and when their profits came from trading rather than loans to actual customers. The whole point of a bank is to make loans; thatÂ’s one of a bankÂ’s core functions.
Greece: the abyss beckons.
China: the abyss beckons.
Italy: the abyss beckons.
Italy may be going under and Berlusconi may be on his way out, but Berlusconi (and Italy) still have defenders.
One of the problems with the Euro project is that the founders assumed that the concept of the “nation-state” was obsolete. Well, as it turns out...not so much.
One of the many errors the Founding Fathers of the euro made was to underestimate the resilience of the nation state. Yes, we live in a world in which technology, money and people flow across borders with greater ease than ever before. Globalisation makes the planet dramatically interdependent: Philip Bobbitt, the constitutional historian, has written brilliantly of the emergence of what he calls the “market state”. Even so, the nation has retained much of its cohesion, its significance and its grip on popular loyalty. One of the reasons that international elites hate Israel so much is that it is the clearest and most passionate example of this durability.
Financial chicanery in Japan: Olympus fraud went unremarked for two decades until the foreign-born CEO finally called bulls**t. This is a capsule of how Japanese corporate culture has contributed to that country’s long decline. It’s also an illustration of how “financial engineering” has become simply a prettier word for plain old fraud. (Incidentally, the foreign-born CEO who pulled the alarm on the problem? He got canned.)
Remember: Teh Bernank says that inflation is low! (HeÂ’s clearly not a fan of PB&J sammiches.) Also: Go long goobers!
Italy to Berlusconi: Arrivederci, baby.
Time for “eurothanasia”. It’s notable that even the ostentatiously pro-Euro FT has finally thrown in the towel.
Freddie Mac: broke, bailed-out, but still soaking taxpayers. Also: saying that "it's legal" is a pretty weak-assed defense.
Much of our DOOM took root when our public schools turned into a jobs program for adults rather than an educational system for children. A civilization canÂ’t produce good citizens -- literate, able to think critically, and to work productively -- if the schools cannot train children properly. Much of the dysfunction you see around you every day is the result of a lousy public school system and the liberal/leftist establishment behind it.
Three cheers for income inequality. We live in a country were even the lowest classes can afford flat-screen televisions, ipods, smartphones, a car, plenty of food, and a closetful of clothes. Our poor people can buy things for very little money that even a century ago a King could not have bought for all the gold in the kingdom. And yet still we complain about “inequality”. Perhaps we need to reacquaint ourselves with true hardship to remind ourselves of how bad things can really get.
People who raise the alarm about a new “Great Depression” aren’t being dismissed as Cassandras any more. It’s not inevitable (yet), but time is getting very short if we want to avoid this catastrophe.
Karl Denninger and I donÂ’t see eye-to-eye very often these days, but this post is spot-on.
You know, I hear a lot of approving noises from many quarters about how the Greeks should be lauded for their “democratic” resistance to EU demands for austerity. In general, I agree, but I wonder: where were the pundits back when Greece was racking up their huge debts? Things were certainly less “democratic” then, but no one cared because the money was flowing like water. “Democracy” only becomes important to the Greeks when there’s a threat that they’ll actually have to start paying their taxes.
Stealing from derelicts and the homeless. ThatÂ’s pretty damned low.
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Posted by: phoenixgirl ready to drink the perry flavor-aid..can i get a different flavor? at November 09, 2011 04:50 AM (SH3gZ)
Posted by: proudonkey at November 09, 2011 04:52 AM (NadeK)
Posted by: phoenixgirl ready to drink the perry flavor-aid..can i get a different flavor? at November 09, 2011 04:53 AM (SH3gZ)
Posted by: Fire with Fire at November 09, 2011 04:53 AM (lcwvr)
Posted by: Gaff at November 09, 2011 04:54 AM (+Qawf)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at November 09, 2011 04:55 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Don Quinine at November 09, 2011 04:56 AM (dB02l)
To snark/brood over:
Cain's accuser filed other complaints. (Fox News link)
Now it's NOT conclusive but there's the APPEARANCE that this woman just might be a tad oversensitive with a hair trigger.
But that's just me.
Posted by: Valar Dohaeris at November 09, 2011 04:56 AM (EntKW)
dum-dum, why are such an imbecile?
Though, I guess, in fairness: Monty chooses doom- your problems seem to be genetic.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at November 09, 2011 04:57 AM (8y9MW)
Should be fixed now. They moved the link to a different place.
Posted by: Monty at November 09, 2011 04:57 AM (/0a60)
Democrats like plain old fraud. They specialize in it. Especially if democrats can promise infrastructure spending that costs billions and trillions above what it should and all their donor cronies pocket your privately earned/ hard earned money.
Posted by: Lemon Kitten at November 09, 2011 04:58 AM (O7ksG)
Posted by: Fire with Fire at November 09, 2011 08:53 AM (lcwvr)
You'll probably have to wait until tomorrow. If I had to bet.... But I agree, if I don't get my Doom in the morning, I'm a complete bastard all day.
Posted by: NC Ref at November 09, 2011 04:59 AM (/izg2)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at November 09, 2011 04:59 AM (tf9Ne)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at November 09, 2011 04:59 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Heavy D pall-bearer at November 09, 2011 05:00 AM (FduBR)
Posted by: Joffen at November 09, 2011 05:01 AM (zLeKL)
Posted by: Jean at November 09, 2011 05:02 AM (Pvjul)
Posted by: Old German Dude, flashing back with reverence to 1939-1941 at November 09, 2011 05:02 AM (rJVPU)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at November 09, 2011 05:02 AM (8y9MW)
#8 - Word!
Unions will be the death of a nation that is (was) fair, just and prosperous. Selfish selfish people.
Shame on Ohio.
Posted by: Lemon Kitten at November 09, 2011 05:02 AM (O7ksG)
Okay, that's good, then. I don't think you're allowed to be a Moron if you're not a cranky bastard.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at November 09, 2011 05:03 AM (8y9MW)
At first when Monty started this series, I was interested, then put off by the constant drumbeat of DOOM, DOOM, DOOM, then I quit reading them and now I read them with casual interest as I would a flood in China, an earthquake in Japan or a famine in Somalia.
It's happening elsewhere and all around but so far not (except for my funemployment) in my immediate neighborhood.
It no longer surprises me, scares me or worries me.
I have no idea why.
Posted by: Valar Dohaeris at November 09, 2011 05:03 AM (EntKW)
Posted by: Joffen at November 09, 2011 05:04 AM (zLeKL)
Posted by: jeanne! at November 09, 2011 05:04 AM (YCoTg)
Public sector unions don't give a damn about bankrupting the entire state. As long as they get theirs.
Posted by: Lemon Kitten at November 09, 2011 05:04 AM (O7ksG)
My guess is that, at some point, you realize you've done everything you can reasonably do, and there's no more reason to worry about it. You keep an eye on it in case it starts getting worse, but otherwise you just keep your head down and get on with life.
That's more or less where I am, anyway.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at November 09, 2011 05:04 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at November 09, 2011 05:05 AM (8y9MW)
I had this conversation, at a booster function with one last week where he complained about putting in 600 hours of overtime outside of the core class hours (most of these hours received some compensation, minor but at least it was there). Sounds like a lot but I was ready. I asked him how many weeks he gets off in the summer, ans 10. Well that right there is 400 hours. I then pointed out I worked 460 ish hours last year and DO NOT get the summer off and get NO compensation.
BTW this is not unusual for most where I work. 30% OT is fairly typical. basically it is a 50ish hour work week for a 2080 hour year.
I ended with. So not only did I work 200 more hours I didn't get paid for any of the hours of OT I put it. That is what it really means to be a professional.
Wow was he pissed hahahahah.
Posted by: Fire with Fire at November 09, 2011 05:05 AM (lcwvr)
Posted by: Jean at November 09, 2011 05:06 AM (Pvjul)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at November 09, 2011 05:07 AM (ZDUD4)
Posted by: GnuBreed at November 09, 2011 09:05 AM (ENKCw)
Britain and savvy in the same sentence. Cats and dogs, etc.
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at November 09, 2011 05:08 AM (mFxQX)
Teachers love to point out that they "don't get paid for one minute they don't work." My family who are teachers hate it when I then point out: Yes, and neither do I. And I don't get special compensation for going to training in my time off. Such things are just expected.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at November 09, 2011 05:09 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: mpfs at November 09, 2011 05:09 AM (OALkv)
Posted by: blaster at November 09, 2011 05:09 AM (Fw2Gg)
However on a closer analysis, Unionism is FOUNDED on the fact that the Union members only gain if the majority of the rest of the employed remain unUnionized.
If everyone was in a Union then ALL prices/costs of services and goods would rise to a similar level (driven by the same motives and goals) thus negating any one Unions benefit/money gain from collective bargaining.
It's those of us who are NOT Union that the Union hurts the most. (although some Unions have become so rapacious that they have forced some companies out of business. The usual practice these days is to move to another state or country)
Posted by: Valar Dohaeris at November 09, 2011 05:09 AM (EntKW)
US weapons 'full of fake Chinese parts'
The company I work for has the same issue. We're not military but the problem spreads across the entire circuit board industry. Since so much now is controlled electronically the dangers are very wide spread.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at November 09, 2011 05:10 AM (tf9Ne)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at November 09, 2011 05:10 AM (ZDUD4)
Doesn't it have to be "Number of days before JoePa retires?" for it to be an over/under?
Anyway, on your actual question- I take "no." On the over/under, I'll start at 5 days.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at November 09, 2011 05:10 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Joffen at November 09, 2011 05:11 AM (zLeKL)
Posted by: Jean at November 09, 2011 05:11 AM (Pvjul)
Posted by: blaster at November 09, 2011 05:11 AM (Fw2Gg)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at November 09, 2011 05:12 AM (ZDUD4)
Many Parents have gleefully abdicated all child rearing responsibility to the state. When their kids are FKD up, they attack the easiest target, they bitch about the Teachers.
Spot on. When I encounter the "But who will take care of them if their parents don't?!!" from my school teacher BIL, my response is simple.
Probably no one. Hopefully a church.
But if you're going to make it possible for lousy human beings to walk away from responsbilities to their kids - they're going to walk away from responsibilities to their kids.
Whatever you subsidize, you get more of. Stop subsidizing poor parenting and, over time, you'll get (marginally) better parenting.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 09, 2011 05:12 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 09, 2011 05:12 AM (SB0V2)
Posted by: mpfs at November 09, 2011 05:12 AM (OALkv)
I'd rather not get into a long Cain discussion, just yet, but I'm kind of with ace on the group press conference thing: if they seem at all credible, it's curtains for Cain. It's just too hard to believe that that many women (however many it is, but obviously more than 5) would all be lying.
Which is not to say they couldn't be, but that it stretches credibility more to believe that than to believe that Herman Cain is a Horn-dog.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at November 09, 2011 05:13 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Don Quinine at November 09, 2011 05:14 AM (dB02l)
Posted by: Jean at November 09, 2011 05:14 AM (Pvjul)
Did I miss a drinking game last night?
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at November 09, 2011 05:14 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 09, 2011 05:15 AM (SB0V2)
Wouldn't that depend on the exact nature of the mechanical failure?
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at November 09, 2011 05:15 AM (8y9MW)
There will never be entitlement reform in this country.
Yesterday I went to all the polls in my township(7 of them) to check on things(i'm involved with the R party here).
Every voter, and I mean every single voter I saw was 65 and older. I'm not being hyperbolic. Every person there voting was over 65. The people working the polls are over 65. The constables were over 65.
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Posted by: Ben at November 09, 2011 05:15 AM (wuv1c)
Those guys/gals at Investment Watch are too funny. The ads on the page are to buy beautifully decorated artificial Christmas trees made, guess where?
Posted by: are we this stupid at November 09, 2011 05:15 AM (k1rwm)
Posted by: mpfs at November 09, 2011 05:15 AM (OALkv)
Posted by: Jean at November 09, 2011 05:16 AM (Pvjul)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 09, 2011 05:16 AM (SB0V2)
Posted by: phoenixgirl ready to drink the perry flavor-aid..can i get a different flavor? at November 09, 2011 05:16 AM (SH3gZ)
It has to be that their recycled steel is poor because they're trying to make what they have go farther. I'm guessing. Cheap mofos. On that I'm certain.
Posted by: NC Ref at November 09, 2011 05:16 AM (/izg2)
Aw com'on now. Remeber 52% of the population voted for Zero.
Posted by: dogfish at November 09, 2011 05:16 AM (NuPNl)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at November 09, 2011 05:16 AM (ZDUD4)
Posted by: Joffen at November 09, 2011 05:16 AM (zLeKL)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 09, 2011 05:17 AM (SB0V2)
My daughter (two) has started saying "I wanna go home" at random times- sometimes even when we're already home. At first, I thought she was just saying it. I realized this morning- she thinks her daycare is "home."
I will be so glad when my wife can stay home with our kids.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at November 09, 2011 05:17 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: mpfs at November 09, 2011 09:15 AM (OALkv)
Your mis-spellings last night were epic. I caught the first hour or so of the ONT and you were pretty entertaining.
Posted by: Truck Monkey at November 09, 2011 05:18 AM (jucos)
This is the breaking of the civilizational compact, and is as clear an indication as youÂ’re ever going to get that things are spinning out of control.
Could not agree more. As Bill Engvall would say, "Here's your clue."
Posted by: Count de Monet at November 09, 2011 05:18 AM (4q5tP)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at November 09, 2011 05:18 AM (ZDUD4)
Posted by: mpfs at November 09, 2011 05:18 AM (OALkv)
As for Ohio, PA and MI, there is a reason we're called the rust belt.
Companies are still building steel mills, manufacturing plants, and car assembly plants in America, but they're building them in the southern right-to-work states.
Our problems up north are self inflicted.
Posted by: Ben at November 09, 2011 05:18 AM (wuv1c)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at November 09, 2011 05:18 AM (8y9MW)
Elementary school.
Posted by: GnuBreed at November 09, 2011 05:18 AM (ENKCw)
Much margaritas with cuervo shots. Wahoo!
Posted by: mpfs at November 09, 2011 09:15 AM (OALkv)
Must be genetics. I can drink tequila in copious amounts and never get hung over.
Scotch? Not so much.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 09, 2011 05:19 AM (sbV1u)
Your mis-spellings last night were epic. I caught the first hour or so of the ONT and you were pretty entertaining.
And I missed that?!??! Damn.
mpfs, next time you're on a bender, drop me a note first. I can always use the laughs.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 09, 2011 05:20 AM (sbV1u)
PA is a retirement haven. We don't tax retirement or pension income - we are one of few states like that.
It's a trap. Don't die in PA, at least with anything more than a nominal amount of assets. It has some of the worst inheritance taxation laws I've ever seen.
Texas does not tax income and is way more inheritance friendly.
Posted by: Count de Monet at November 09, 2011 05:21 AM (4q5tP)
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The sad thing is that since contractors are required to note any foreign made parts and to prove that those parts met quality requirements, this means that the US contractors falsified reports or falsified tests for those parts to be accepted by Gov.
I know, I used to work for a Gov contractor. Paperwork out the yingyang and spot inspections by Gov QC insp.
If the parts are bad there's a lot of blame to go around.
BTW. There are so many manufacturing concerns in China and NO enforced standards (some mean ISO standards but even sometimes those credentials are faked) so the quality from one source to another is very erratic.
The real trouble? We've LOST the ability to make some of this stuff. I don't mean we don't KNOW HOW, I mean we don't have the production capacity, the skilled workforce or the suppliers anymore.
It's all gone overseas because the cost of manufacturing got larger than the gross profit.
We're going to lose our space industry also if steps aren't taken soon.
Much of this was/is caused by Union greed, over regulation and public complacency.
Posted by: Valar Dohaeris at November 09, 2011 05:22 AM (EntKW)
>>>>Ben, seriously, PA is a retirement haven. We don't tax retirement or pension income - we are one of few states like that.
We'll always be full of retirees.
Oh I know. The point I was making is that it was an off year election with little to actually vote on and yet these people turned out. Most of them were practically infirm. One guy took about 10 minutes to vote. There were like 8 races(most uncontested) and a retention of judges vote.
These are people that never leave the house, can barely stand, yet they alway show up at the polls. They show up for Presidential elections, off year elections, primaries, everything. They are never going to let go of our money.
Posted by: Ben at November 09, 2011 05:22 AM (wuv1c)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at November 09, 2011 09:18 AM (ZDUD4)
True, but its always been that. Back when I had a real job, we used to buy a lot of parts made over there, and it was always obvious when we'd open the "third-shift" crates. Lots of failures right out of the box. On top of the normal failure rate.
Posted by: NC Ref at November 09, 2011 05:22 AM (/izg2)
Posted by: mrp at November 09, 2011 05:22 AM (HjPtV)
Posted by: mpfs at November 09, 2011 05:23 AM (OALkv)
Posted by: mpfs at November 09, 2011 09:18 AM (OALkv)
Its pronounced "Nittaly Lion."
Stupid conservatives.
Posted by: Barack Obama at November 09, 2011 05:23 AM (/izg2)
Posted by: are we this stupid at November 09, 2011 09:15 AM (k1rwm)
And the MFM stories about the Grinch Who Stole Christmas the nameless holiday are.....?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 09, 2011 05:25 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at November 09, 2011 05:27 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: phoenixgirl ready to drink the perry flavor-aid..can i get a different flavor? at November 09, 2011 05:27 AM (SH3gZ)
"Welcome to Costco. I love you".
That's what Monty made me think of with that bit about education.
Posted by: Scott J at November 09, 2011 05:29 AM (/bVuS)
Posted by: blaster at November 09, 2011 05:29 AM (Fw2Gg)
Posted by: mpfs at November 09, 2011 05:31 AM (OALkv)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at November 09, 2011 05:31 AM (ZDUD4)
Posted by: Joffen at November 09, 2011 05:33 AM (zLeKL)
(h/t HA)
poor HA, their numbers must be way down since she decided not to run. They are absolutely desperate over there.
Posted by: Ben at November 09, 2011 05:34 AM (wuv1c)
Posted by: phoenixgirl ready to drink the perry flavor-aid..can i get a different flavor? at November 09, 2011 05:34 AM (SH3gZ)
sort of freaking people out.
Posted by: are we this stupid at November 09, 2011 05:35 AM (k1rwm)
Nope. Wishcasting, at best.
Accept and move on: our field is not going to change except to get smaller.
Which is why so many of us still in the Perry camp say "Look at the records." In the end, the only way we can guess what people will do is to look at what they have done.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at November 09, 2011 05:35 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: navybrat at November 09, 2011 05:36 AM (yX34v)
Posted by: Joffen at November 09, 2011 05:38 AM (zLeKL)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at November 09, 2011 05:39 AM (ZDUD4)
Can someone please tell me why it's always chicago?
Posted by: are we this stupid at November 09, 2011 05:39 AM (k1rwm)
105 The Palinistas. Just. Won't. Die.
Is there any wonder why that is with Eric Ericson now pushing Jon Huntsman? When you have a potential candidate that is conservative, fully vetted and generates excitement in the base, itÂ’s hard to keep from wishing.
Posted by: jwest at November 09, 2011 05:39 AM (qeYI9)
Posted by: Lincolntf at November 09, 2011 05:39 AM (Qjh0I)
Just wait til the supercommittee deadlock riles things up; they have 2 weeks left to reach a deal. That should be fun to watch.
Posted by: GnuBreed at November 09, 2011 05:40 AM (ENKCw)
Fair enough.
Actually, while I didn't want her in this race, I'd love to see her come back in a few years. Maybe she should run for Senator in AK first, or something.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at November 09, 2011 05:41 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Penn State Fans at November 09, 2011 05:41 AM (ZDUD4)
Posted by: Joffen at November 09, 2011 05:43 AM (zLeKL)
Last night, Houston police ask OWS protesters to take down a rain tarp (rain in Houston yesterday - yaayyy!) as it was deemed to be in violation of city ordinances prohibiting structures in city parks.
Rather than complying with the simple request, OccupyHouston goes all 4-year old tantrum-like, resulting in a hlaf-dozen arrests.
The precious tarp was there to protect their solar batteries from the rain.
preview tinyurl link to Houston Comical report
Posted by: Count de Monet at November 09, 2011 05:43 AM (4q5tP)
Posted by: Jean at November 09, 2011 05:43 AM (Pvjul)
Total bullshit.
The point of a bank, or any business, is to make money. If a bank can make more money trading their deposits rather than lending them -- more power to them. Anything else would be a violation of the compact they have with their shareholders; which is to maximize shareholder value.
You don't get to define a business a priori. An integral part of capitalism is this fantastic evolution and revolution in business creation and change. Without that we would be mercantilists, and much, much poorer.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at November 09, 2011 05:43 AM (3vSLn)
Posted by: CoolCzech at November 09, 2011 05:43 AM (niZvt)
There is no DOOM in Christmas... until now:
President Obama’s Agriculture Department today announced that it will impose a new 15-cent charge on all fresh Christmas trees—the Christmas Tree Tax—to support a new Federal program to improve the image and marketing of Christmas trees.
Posted by: No Whining at November 09, 2011 05:44 AM (Y9JPs)
Posted by: GnuBreed at November 09, 2011 05:44 AM (ENKCw)
The two aren't mutually exclusive. Though, the impugning of her image which is currently happening could be why she was reluctant to come forward. Just sayin'.
Honestly, I'm pretty well "over" this stuff with Herman Cain. I don't care if he did it or not (though, if he did- I do care that he lied to us), I've got plenty of reasons not to vote for him already, and crappy crisis management is just one more thing on the list. It's not even the "straw that broke the camel's back," the camel's back was broken some time ago.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at November 09, 2011 05:44 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Joffen at November 09, 2011 05:45 AM (zLeKL)
Yes. It was joke based on a fan being a mechanical device. If the fan is where the mechanical failure occurs, then the s can't htf. Or, rather, when it does, it'll be less than spectacular.
Maybe it's too early for such subtlety.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at November 09, 2011 05:46 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Wall-E at November 09, 2011 05:46 AM (48wze)
(don't open unless you've had your coffee and can stop your blood pressure from going through the roof)
Posted by: are we this stupid at November 09, 2011 05:47 AM (k1rwm)
Posted by: mpfs at November 09, 2011 09:12 AM (OALkv)
HEY EVERYBODY, YOU HEAR THAT?! MPFS HAS A HANGOVER!!!
Posted by: Insomniac at November 09, 2011 05:47 AM (DrWcr)
CharlieBrown'sdildo is on point this morning. Never thought I'd ever type that.
Posted by: Joffen at November 09, 2011 09:45 AM (zLeKL)
That is, in fact, a mouthful.
Also quite horrifying.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 09, 2011 05:48 AM (sbV1u)
I suppose it also showed that we in this country, have the best votes money can buy - corrected for inflation, that is.
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at November 09, 2011 05:48 AM (jx2j9)
Oops! This is what happens when I read my email and other links before checking the sidebar here.
Posted by: No Whining at November 09, 2011 05:48 AM (Y9JPs)
>>>Would the cobloggers please set an over/under on each thread for how many posts before it becomes a Cainfest? I could use a little pocket change.
don't worry. I'm guessing in two weeks that Cain won't even be an issue anymore
Posted by: Ben at November 09, 2011 05:49 AM (wuv1c)
If a bank can make more money trading their deposits rather than lending them -- more power to them.
Sounds good to me!
Posted by: During the year prior to October 24, 1929 at November 09, 2011 05:49 AM (4q5tP)
Posted by: Jean at November 09, 2011 05:49 AM (Pvjul)
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at November 09, 2011 05:50 AM (mFxQX)
When I was a boy my parents would just go out in the woods, find a properly sized cedar and saw it down for our Christmas tree.
I might go back to that over this tree tax.
We currently buy from the Boy Scouts each year because I like to support them.
Posted by: Scott J at November 09, 2011 05:50 AM (/bVuS)
US weapons 'full of fake Chinese parts'
There is a legal requirement that all weapons systems and parts be made in the United States. Yes, I can see that Chinese counterfeits could get into the supply chain. Certainly Chinese counterfeit aircraft bolts have been seen for a long time.
The reason aircraft bolts are special is that all metal parts in aircraft have to be X-rayed and magna-fluxed to make sure they don't have cracks or internal flaws. When you sell standard bolts as certified aircraft bolts a certain percentage of them are going to be defective. Awkward to have a wing or tail part drop off in flight because of a defective bolt. The parts inspection process is part of the reason that private airplanes cost so much more than automobiles.
In the past commercial electronics parts have been very reliable. However today with the Idiot ROHS process removing the lead from solder and the shrinking line widths of the manufacturing processes that is no longer true.
Lead was in the solder because it kept the tin in the solder from growing whiskers and shorting things out. Military chips are supposed to be exempt from ROHS as are aerospace chips - but just about all chips manufacturers are saluting the green flag and making all their chips ROHS compliant. Expect airplanes to start falling out of the skies as these ROHS chips sneak into aircraft manufacturing lines and on board electronics control systems start shorting out.
The line width reliability issue has to do with ion migration inside the chips. High temperatures allow dopant ions inside the chips to move because of thermal diffusion. When you had thick line widths in chips the ions couldn't diffuse thermally far enough to change chip characteristics except over hundreds of years. With today's thin line architecture that time has shrunk to a few years.
Milspec parts sacrifice performance for reliability.
Just another example of DOOM that has to be corrected.
Posted by: An Observation at November 09, 2011 05:50 AM (ylhEn)
It's considered a bit....uncouth...to love one's country. Show a little class.
Posted by: Mainstream Republican at November 09, 2011 05:51 AM (3vSLn)
Posted by: Wall-E at November 09, 2011 05:51 AM (48wze)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at November 09, 2011 05:52 AM (tf9Ne)
Posted by: CAC at November 09, 2011 05:52 AM (JEVge)
Posted by: CAC at November 09, 2011 05:53 AM (JEVge)
Posted by: Don Quinine at November 09, 2011 05:54 AM (dB02l)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at November 09, 2011 05:54 AM (ZDUD4)
There is a certain advantage to having a gross nickname.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at November 09, 2011 05:54 AM (3vSLn)
The problem is that if they do that, they're no longer banks, they're investment firms. A bank, as a business, is defined by the fact they accept deposits and make loans. Just like a restaurant is defined by the fact they sell prepared food. Some place could call itself a "restaurant" but only sell raw food to other restaurants, but that doesn't make it a restaurant.
So, yes, in the sense of "being a bank" banks exist (in part) to make loans.
Now, that's not to say they shouldn't be "trading their deposits," but it does mean that, if that's all they're doing, they're not actually engaging in one of the two main functions of banking anymore.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at November 09, 2011 05:54 AM (8y9MW)
Council deputy Michelle Rex says the precedent-setting ordinance received final approval early Tuesday. The ban would affect sales of clothing made from the skin or pelt of animals with hair, wool or fur."
Posted by: are we this stupid at November 09, 2011 05:54 AM (k1rwm)
“I never thought she was fully vetted…”
Posted by: Joffen at November 09, 2011 09:43 AM (zLeKL)
Palin was vetted to a level never before imagined. When the left unleashes this same process on Perry, Gingrich, Cain or Mitt, we will end up spending the entirety of the election year defending them, instead of focusing on the clusterfuck in the White House.
Posted by: jwest at November 09, 2011 05:54 AM (qeYI9)
Posted by: CAC at November 09, 2011 05:56 AM (JEVge)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at November 09, 2011 05:57 AM (ZDUD4)
Posted by: Thomas Friedman at November 09, 2011 05:57 AM (/izg2)
Posted by: Wall-E at November 09, 2011 05:57 AM (48wze)
Posted by: CAC at November 09, 2011 09:53 AM (JEVge)
Let me rephrase, does he have the authority to do it?
This is exactly what the Dem's would do. How much did the unions spend? Let them burn through some more and continue. Ohio is fucked anyway.
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at November 09, 2011 05:57 AM (mFxQX)
Posted by: Honey Badger at November 09, 2011 05:58 AM (GvYeG)
rumor has it that many are jealous that she got the designation.
Posted by: are we this stupid at November 09, 2011 05:59 AM (k1rwm)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at November 09, 2011 05:59 AM (ZDUD4)
ThereÂ’s no question that weÂ’re all DOOMed and that what we want for ourselves will ensure our progenyÂ’s DOOM as well. But some may be more DOOMed than others in the near term, which only means that all of us are probably more DOOMed than we imagine we are. Excellent post up at YidÂ’s that points this out.
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at November 09, 2011 06:00 AM (jx2j9)
Every Republican was bounced from City Council last night (we can thank the repeal of Issue 2 for that).
The most controversial mini-Al Sharpton was actually elected. Something is seriously not right with this City.
We're turning into Detroit.
Posted by: laceyunderalls at November 09, 2011 06:01 AM (qOpVw)
Posted by: Wall-E at November 09, 2011 06:01 AM (48wze)
________
By sitting in his bunker and yelling at his top staff?
Posted by: Youtubers everywhere at November 09, 2011 06:01 AM (6fER6)
Posted by: Lincolntf at November 09, 2011 06:02 AM (Qjh0I)
Well, we can call it a petunia instead of a bank, but there is no reason that a bank must lend its deposits. If the market demands that a bank lend more, then it will, or risk failure. But it is just a business like any other, and its only function is to make as much money as possible.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at November 09, 2011 06:02 AM (3vSLn)
This is the problem- St. Sarah was never vetted. She was smeared. The two are superficially the same, but fundamentally different.
Many (most?) people who defend her do so on a visceral, emotional level. Much like St. Herman, they "know" the accusations are false because... they just do.
Now, in Palin's case, those paying attention actually know some facts (though some of those are 'open to interpretation'), and know that the smears were largely (if not completely) false. But that won't matter, this cycle. The damage is done, and we would spend as much (if not more) time "defending" St. Sarah than we would anyone outside of Herman Cain.
The other politicians (even Mittens) are being vetted: their records are being examined (or have been already), they are being challenged on substance and perceived inconsistencies. No one has done that to Palin, because there was never a need.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at November 09, 2011 06:02 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: wfs1970 at November 09, 2011 06:03 AM (+KmL5)
I hope so too because all the crap that Obama is pulling has become a sidebar to the media circus. The MSM has certainly created quite a distraction to the people who need to blast their conservative message far and wide. Hope we can finally come back and point the finger at the stuttering cluster fuck of a miserable failure and all his policies and ignore the one pointing and saying... but.. but but, he looked at a girl!!
Posted by: Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain at November 09, 2011 06:03 AM (bj+Nc)
Posted by: laceyunderalls at November 09, 2011 10:01 AM (qOpVw)
That process has been underway there for a long time Lacy.
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at November 09, 2011 06:04 AM (jx2j9)
Posted by: are we this stupid at November 09, 2011 06:04 AM (k1rwm)
Posted by: phoenixgirl ready to drink the perry flavor-aid..can i get a different flavor? at November 09, 2011 06:04 AM (SH3gZ)
He should have done the right thing and called the police instead of treating this child predator (Sandusky) like a mere issue for HR to handle.
Here's the latest story if you have the stomach to handle it.
Penn State Scandal: Sandusky Allegedly Confessed to Boy's Mother
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at November 09, 2011 06:06 AM (9hSKh)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at November 09, 2011 06:07 AM (ZDUD4)
Posted by: Joffen at November 09, 2011 06:07 AM (zLeKL)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at November 09, 2011 06:09 AM (of/0u)
No. And that's a fallacy into which conservatives fall all too often. A business's function is to do it's business: that is, provide a good (or set of goods) or service (or set of services) to its customers. If a business is performing its function successfully, it will provide a profit to its owner(s).
Now, you can claim my point was semantics, and that's true to some extent. The point, however, is that we do categorize things by name. If I had a hardware store but called it "AllenG's Fresh Groceries," you would be justifiably nonplussed when you couldn't find a tub of butter.
Similarly, if a "bank" has ceased performing one of the two cornerstones of banking (that is: making loans) then people are justifiably nonplussed when they try to get a loan there.
I'm not disagreeing that them seeking greatest profit is what they're doing. To some extent, it's what they "should" do. But, for clarity's sake, if they're going to stop banking, they should stop calling themselves banks.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at November 09, 2011 06:09 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at November 09, 2011 06:10 AM (jx2j9)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at November 09, 2011 06:12 AM (ZDUD4)
Posted by: Ohio sick of ripping our own Dan at November 09, 2011 06:12 AM (JKNDp)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at November 09, 2011 06:13 AM (ZDUD4)
No, she wasn't. At least not if by "vetting" you mean actually having her record examined. She was smeared. It wasn't right, it wasn't fair, and it did her a great disservice (partially by convincing her fan-base that what had happened was the same as "vetting"), but it was not vetting.
The most succinct summation of the difference is this: vetting requires staying in the realm of philosophy. Smearing can use perception only. That is: hitting Rick Perry over the Texas DREAM act is vetting- that's an actual policy he should have to explain. Romneycare? Vetting. Racist rock? Magic underwear? Those are smears.
Now, tell me actual policy decisions that Sarah Palin made as governor that received major media attention, and that she had to explain why they were consistent with her stated, conservative, beliefs.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at November 09, 2011 06:14 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Joffen at November 09, 2011 06:16 AM (zLeKL)
Posted by: phoenixgirl ready to drink the perry flavor-aid..can i get a different flavor? at November 09, 2011 06:16 AM (SH3gZ)
Christina Rohmer?? The lady looks like your garden variety HS lunch lady.
And she's serving up the the shit sammiches!
Posted by: dananjcon at November 09, 2011 06:16 AM (8ieXv)
Posted by: Joffen at November 09, 2011 06:17 AM (zLeKL)
Posted by: CoolCzech at November 09, 2011 06:17 AM (niZvt)
What's wrong with you people?
Posted by: chemjeff at November 09, 2011 10:12 AM (OoiW1)
Oh...great now you did it....
Posted by: dananjcon at November 09, 2011 06:17 AM (8ieXv)
Posted by: Vote Cthulhu/joncelli 2012 at November 09, 2011 06:18 AM (RD7QR)
Well, we can call it a petunia instead of a bank, but there is no reason that a bank must lend its deposits. If the market demands that a bank lend more, then it will, or risk failure. But it is just a business like any other, and its only function is to make as much money as possible
Egads, my good man. You. Cannot. Be. Serious.
Banking is a business. But not like any other. Why are customer deposits shown on the bank's balance sheet as a liability?
Posted by: Count de Monet at November 09, 2011 06:19 AM (4q5tP)
Posted by: Joffen at November 09, 2011 06:19 AM (zLeKL)
You're talking motivation, not purpose. And the difference is important. My current client (I'm a consultant) is a perfect example of this: due to a failure to define a purpose, they have been in bankruptcy for several years. They've tried to come out of bankruptcy at least once previously and failed, because they can't decide what their purpose is.
Indeed, the people who currently own the company believe it's purpose is to "make a profit," but because that is how they define the purpose of the business, it is less successful than it should be. If they could/would define the purpose of their business as "we're going to provide the best X at our price point," their profits would increase, and they could move back to being publicly traded in a year or two.
Using your own example: if someone has an idea for a widget, but doesn't think they can make profit by manufacturing and selling said widget, we need to examine the widget itself. Why do they think it can't make a profit? If it's more expensive to make than the value others would place on it, it is not that great a widget. If it's just more expensive to manufacture themselves, then maybe they'll try to sell the design of the widget to someone who can make a profit manufacturing them.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at November 09, 2011 06:21 AM (8y9MW)
I was pointing to general derision over Romney being a Mormon.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at November 09, 2011 06:22 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at November 09, 2011 06:22 AM (ZDUD4)
Posted by: CoolCzech at November 09, 2011 06:22 AM (niZvt)
Posted by: Jean at November 09, 2011 06:22 AM (WkuV6)
Posted by: 1/1027th of a Janitor harkening to the call of Newt at November 09, 2011 06:24 AM (tazG1)
Posted by: CoolCzech at November 09, 2011 10:22 AM (niZvt)
Exactly...those who can't, hate.
Posted by: dananjcon at November 09, 2011 06:24 AM (8ieXv)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at November 09, 2011 06:24 AM (ZDUD4)
Posted by: CoolCzech at November 09, 2011 06:25 AM (niZvt)
Posted by: laceyunderalls at November 09, 2011 06:25 AM (qOpVw)
One of my coworkers who is normally conservative-ish insisted we vote democrats or the Republicans will eat our babies, lay us off and cut health insurance, etc etc. Whats the democrats solution to reducing the deficit and helping us retain our benefits and salaries? Raise taxes!
He said he was willing to pay more in taxes if that meant keeping his job and helping his poor sister who is still unemployed, having lost her job in the private sector.
I said he might be, but others won't, and guess what, they'll vote with their feet, including the local businesses and leave the state. When enough people leave there won't be enough high taxes in the world to make up the difference, and you'll suffer either the loss of your job or severe pay cuts anyway.
Clueless fuckwits, these people are.
Posted by: Zooey Deschanel's Adorable Cuteness Supports Rick Perry's Ruger for President at November 09, 2011 06:26 AM (TCyyS)
STATE COLLEGE, Pa. (AP) - A person familiar with the decision says Penn State football coach Joe Paterno has decided to retire at the end of the season.
The person says Paterno will announce his retirement later Wednesday.
The person spoke to The Associated Press on the condition of anonymity because the decision has yet to be announced.
He should be gone now.
Posted by: Y-not at November 09, 2011 06:26 AM (5H6zj)
I don't accept your premise. A business can call itself anything it wants, and conduct business in any way it sees fit. If the market approves, then it will make money. If the market disapproves, then it will fail.
You seem to be hinting at some overarching predetermined structure that all to often becomes regulation.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at November 09, 2011 06:26 AM (3vSLn)
175 Goodbye leather shoes
My Mother tells a story of when she was a teen during WWII (her job was scrubbing out the gas tanks of freshly built bombers) and leather shoes were impossible to get. She had a date, and had gotten what she described as cardboard shoes. She was taking a bus to meet the guy and got caught in a SoCal rain storm.
Her shoes fell apart as the glue holding them together melted.
Something like this is hard for us to imagine, much less a lot of the freaks parked in encampments with their ipads bitching about the state of things.
The greatest generation can see how boned we are, and the irreversible path we're on, and happy they're not going to be around to see it. My Mom is just hoping what might be her last president isn't our current harbinger of doom.
Posted by: Clutch Cargo at November 09, 2011 06:27 AM (Qxdfp)
Posted by: Joffen at November 09, 2011 06:27 AM (zLeKL)
Posted by: are we this stupid at November 09, 2011 06:27 AM (k1rwm)
You're missing my point.
I don't want "Oh, here are all her accomplishments!" I want: What made major national news (I'm not sure any of those actually did), and then that she had to defend- philosophically. That is, things she had to explain "Here's why I did it, here's why policy X is conservative."
See, simply pointing out that Rick Perry (because I'm most familiar with him) has had a balanced budget every year he's been Governor- including overseeing the State's first real budget cuts in I don't even remember how many years (Since WW2?) is pointing out an accomplishment. Claiming that Rick Perry is gay (or womanizing, or a gay womanizer, as someone once tried) is a "smear." Explaining that TTC is not a "land grab," and was a plan to address a real need of the State of Texas is "vetting."
See the difference?
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at November 09, 2011 06:27 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at November 09, 2011 06:28 AM (ZDUD4)
Posted by: blaster at November 09, 2011 06:29 AM (Fw2Gg)
Posted by: SurferDoc at November 09, 2011 06:29 AM (STdkO)
Eh? What does that have to do with anything?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at November 09, 2011 06:30 AM (3vSLn)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at November 09, 2011 06:31 AM (ZDUD4)
Posted by: Joffen at November 09, 2011 06:31 AM (zLeKL)
Posted by: are we this stupid at November 09, 2011 06:32 AM (k1rwm)
They have sacramental garments, that includes under garments.
When you go to Temple Square in Salt Lake City there is invariably some jackass who is "protesting" the LDS Church and holding up under garments while doing so.
That's not going to be the problem, imho. The problem is going to be their Church teaching about people of African American descent which extended up to 1978 iirc and the church's efforts in opposition to gay marriage. The former is going to be hard to address without going into a lot of doctrinal things that will seem weird to non-LDS and the latter is going to attract a lot of blowback from the usual suspects in the entertainment industry.
Posted by: Y-not at November 09, 2011 06:32 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: blaster at November 09, 2011 06:32 AM (Fw2Gg)
Posted by: Vote Cthulhu/joncelli 2012 at November 09, 2011 06:33 AM (RD7QR)
We can solve all this by taxing things and then promoting them.
Let's start with Christmas trees.
I swear to God, the Monty Python guys in the full bloom of their creative glory could not have come up with that one.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 09, 2011 06:33 AM (B+qrE)
Yes and if he has any integrity, he should resign now without any prodding.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at November 09, 2011 06:33 AM (9hSKh)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at November 09, 2011 06:34 AM (ZDUD4)
Yes, it is, and that's not what I was trying to do.
Using my stance, making Mitt Romney confirm that, in any elected office, his religion would necessarily be of (at most) secondary importance is "vetting." Simply saying "Mitt Romney is a Mormon- and you know you can't trust them" is a smear.
A business can call itself anything it wants, and conduct business in any way it sees fit
Certainly it can, in theory. But, I guarantee you, if you open a hardware store, advertise as a hardware store, call yourself the owner of a hardware store- but sell groceries- you won't make a profit.
We use words, names, to mean things for communication purposes. When someone says "bank," they're talking about a business which accepts deposits (as liabilities) and issues loans (which it considers assets). If Chase Bank tried to stop issuing loans, and only traded with other "banks" it would cease making a profit. Indeed, it would go under the very next year, because a bank can't make a profit (by the way it considers deposits "liabilities") just by trading deposits. There has to be some kind of investment going on somewhere. It may be making loans to other banks, or only to businesses, or whatever- but for a bank to make money, it must issue loans at some point.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at November 09, 2011 06:34 AM (8y9MW)
I bet the wife knew he was teh ghey. Just sayin'.
Posted by: Y-not at November 09, 2011 06:34 AM (5H6zj)
Comment # 1 Proudretard,
Why are you such an insufferable imbecile? Do Mama Earth a favor and fertilize her soil with your blood. It is your only hope of ever escaping the fate of complete uselessness.
Posted by: maddogg at November 09, 2011 06:34 AM (OlN4e)
Posted by: Clutch Cargo at November 09, 2011 10:27 AM (Qxdfp)
Long life to her, but like the justification for these DOOM posts in the first place, we're DOOMed - no sarc. The collective we will not impose on ourselves the discipline to fix the problem. Even the so called 'super committee' is only looking at slowing the march toward DOOM. Consideration of paying down the debt we have shackled ourselves with isn't even under consideration. This country is in decline and there is absolutely nothing in discussions of current elected officials or in the proposals of any of the candidates that will seriously reverse the decent.
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at November 09, 2011 06:35 AM (jx2j9)
We can solve all this by taxing things and then promoting them.
Let's start with Christmas trees.
And I forgot to add...AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL WHERE SOME NITWIT WILL SUE BECAUSE OF THE WORD "CHRISTMAS" SOME NITWIT JUDGE WILL RULE IN THEIR FAVOR.
I will now run screaming from the building and run into a tree at full speed to clear my mind.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 09, 2011 06:36 AM (B+qrE)
Agreed! I'm a public employee in Ohio (university professor, although that is marginally public in that tuition still pays a great deal, if not all, of my salary) and I think people are being short-sighted here. Ohio is bleeding population, and the failure of Issue 2 will ensure that this continues. And when there is less "public" there is less need for public servants. Layoffs will come. Public servants could have decided to spread the pain around a little (very little, Issue 2/SB 5 really wasn't as draconian as unions made it out to be; most of the reforms were fairly reasonable, but it did strip unions of much of their power).
This is simply an issue of math, not ideology.
What I also find sad is that many school levies also failed. I'm not sad that they failed per se (that's up to the voters in each district and none of my concern), but combining that with the failure of Issue 2 says to me that these people want to keep high pay for public employees, but want someone else to pay.
I hope Kasich, at minimum, comes back with a right-to-work law. I'm sick of paying dues to a union that I disagree with.
Posted by: Mullaney at November 09, 2011 06:36 AM (sV0Yw)
Posted by: Joffen at November 09, 2011 06:37 AM (zLeKL)
It's a little worse than that, though, because Romney was a Bishop in the LDS church. I don't fully understand how their church hierarchy works, but the church can call the men who are in the priesthood (recall, they are all lay ministers so they are not equivalent to for example a Catholic lay minister) to service. I am not sure if they can decline.
So asking Santorum to comment on the Catholic Church's policy about celibate priests or women priests is not quite the same as asking Romney about LDS teachings, imho.
Posted by: Y-not at November 09, 2011 06:37 AM (5H6zj)
Yes and if he has any integrity, he should resign now without any prodding.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at November 09, 2011 10:33 AM (9hSKh)
Yep, no one should have to get behind him and force him to do something he doesn't want.
Posted by: The Robot Devil at November 09, 2011 06:38 AM (136wp)
The school levy failures are interesting. You're seeing a lot of "well you can be for keeping someone's right to collectively bargain while saying you don't have the money to support the current levy."
Uh huh. As you said -- they just wanted someone else to pay for it.
Posted by: laceyunderalls at November 09, 2011 06:39 AM (qOpVw)
Well, no, the idea comes first.
But, yes, a person (or some people) have an idea, and decide they can get rich by pursuing it. In that sense "profit" comes first. However, for the business- as an entity- to put profit first is (at best) a slippery slope.
It's a very, very fine distinction, and I realize that. But look at businesses that forgot that providing their profit/service should come first and focused on profit. I'm willing to bet the vast majority saw major setbacks fairly quickly.
I can point to 3 off the top of my head: Countrywide, Dell, Wachovia Bank.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at November 09, 2011 06:39 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Y-not at November 09, 2011 10:29 AM (5H6zj)
While the list of NCAA regulations for football teams is huge, I don't think child rape is covered. Its a criminal act and the cops juries need to be imposing the penalties
Posted by: NC Ref at November 09, 2011 06:39 AM (/izg2)
"New Foreclosures Smash Albuquerque, Boston, Sarasota, And Cincinnati"
Posted by: are we this stupid at November 09, 2011 06:39 AM (k1rwm)
I was wondering if there might some sort of morality clauses in the NCAA rules. If the university is found to have protected a pervert, might that trigger some action?
Posted by: Y-not at November 09, 2011 06:40 AM (5H6zj)
I think if he resigns then he doesn't get his pension so he would have to retire.
Posted by: are we this stupid at November 09, 2011 06:41 AM (k1rwm)
Posted by: Rex the Wonder God at November 09, 2011 06:41 AM (vahvH)
I don't know enough about the LDS to comment one way or the other. My main point, in even bringing it up, is that simply saying "He's a mormon!" is not "vetting."
Now, once we get to "vetting" his Mormon background, it may be as you say- it may be very, very difficult for him to explain those things in a way that would make most voters comfortable. But that's a different issue.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at November 09, 2011 06:41 AM (8y9MW)
Penn State is 8-1 with a home game against Nebraska this Saturday and followed by away games against OSU and Wisconsin.
Penn State could also qualify for for the Big 10 Championship Game and be invited to a bowl game.
All games not played in Happy Valley are likely to be enveloped in a nasty atomosphere.
JoePa would be doing Penn State a favor if he quit after Saturday's game, if not before.
Posted by: boniface ballers at November 09, 2011 06:41 AM (bPbwB)
Posted by: Y-not at November 09, 2011 06:42 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: NC Ref at November 09, 2011 06:43 AM (/izg2)
Didn't rendel retire to pursue a media career but got side tracked when his wife, the judge, dumped him? But the bulk of this is on his watch.
Posted by: are we this stupid at November 09, 2011 06:44 AM (k1rwm)
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at November 09, 2011 10:33 AM (9hSKh)
But he proved that PSU football is more important than one of his coaches molesting children. That shows a stunning lack of integrity!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at November 09, 2011 06:44 AM (3vSLn)
Posted by: Vote Cthulhu/joncelli 2012 at November 09, 2011 06:44 AM (RD7QR)
Ya know, maybe he should feel some pain for the pain he ignored. Zero Sympathy.
Posted by: The Robot Devil at November 09, 2011 06:44 AM (136wp)
Posted by: All about the Benjamin's at November 09, 2011 06:44 AM (ZDUD4)
I see.
I think Mitt is going to have a very hard time in the general election if he's the nominee. Now that's not a reason to not move forward with him, but to me the biggest argument I read for his candidacy is that he's 'electable,' so I just find that a fatal flaw. If he had the best record and the most solid conservative creds, then I'd be all-on. But he doesn't.
Posted by: Y-not at November 09, 2011 06:45 AM (5H6zj)
I was wondering if there might some sort of morality clauses in the NCAA rules. If the university is found to have protected a pervert, might that trigger some action?
No.
Next.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 09, 2011 06:45 AM (B+qrE)
I'm not sure of the details but that would really cause financial problems over time.
Posted by: dave clark at November 09, 2011 06:46 AM (nhEck)
_________
They can decline, but it's frowned upon. The idea is that God inspired the church leadership to select you, so declining is sort of a statement of insufficient faith. It is seen as a failure of the person who declined rather than a failure of the leadership's selection.
Posted by: Anachronda at November 09, 2011 06:46 AM (6fER6)
Posted by: The Robot Devil at November 09, 2011 10:44 AM (136wp)
oh anyone who reads the story would agree but it seems people always try to preserve their pensions when in these kinds of situations. It's like when they tell you in business you are the next to go but let you have your desk and phone for two months so you can pretend you are working and get another job.
Posted by: are we this stupid at November 09, 2011 06:46 AM (k1rwm)
Monty, that Denninger post that you link to strikes me as anything but "spot on", but rather just another example of what's wrong with the man. The Journal quote that he cites as evidence of dishonesty merely makes the rather modest claim that "Washington's rising subsidies for college are a big reason that tuition keeps rising faster than inflation." That's a claim that I think would be fairly uncontroversial among the economically literate: artificially increase demand and you'll increase prices. But because the Journal chose as the subject matter of their editorial something different than his current pet peeve, the Ignatius J. Reilly of Niceville has cast the editorial board into perdition.
He was always marginal at best, but his Party-of-One rhetoric has made him absolutely unreadable. I pity his neighbors, whom I imagine are bombarded daily with leaflets on the correct way to trim the hedges and the proper time to fertilize the grass, declaring all naysayers to be frauds and liars.
Posted by: somebody else, not me at November 09, 2011 06:46 AM (7EV/g)
Posted by: Joffen at November 09, 2011 06:46 AM (zLeKL)
And why would I know jack shit about Ed Rendell's wife?
Posted by: NC Ref at November 09, 2011 06:47 AM (/izg2)
Yeah, they have a BoT, but for state universities, those are appointed by the governor.
On top of that, they are all state employees (unless they are hired by the foundation, which I doubt is the case for the athletics department).
Posted by: Y-not at November 09, 2011 06:47 AM (5H6zj)
What is worse - physical pain that can be cured or inflicting mental pain on an innocent child who may never get over it?
Posted by: The Robot Devil at November 09, 2011 06:47 AM (136wp)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 09, 2011 06:48 AM (SB0V2)
I'm glad he's wealthy, because those victims deserve a lot of compensation.
Posted by: Y-not at November 09, 2011 06:48 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: All about the Benjamin's at November 09, 2011 06:49 AM (ZDUD4)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 09, 2011 06:49 AM (SB0V2)
. Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at November 09, 2011 06:49 AM (9hSKh)
Well with the right investors it can be a solid business model. Well at least to the top men it can.
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Posted by: are we this stupid at November 09, 2011 06:50 AM (k1rwm)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 09, 2011 06:50 AM (SB0V2)
Posted by: All about the Benjamin's at November 09, 2011 10:49 AM (ZDUD4)
Nice troll, not biting.
"Thus far I find you rather detestable, may I say that without hurting your feelings"
Posted by: The Robot Devil at November 09, 2011 06:50 AM (136wp)
Posted by: SurferDoc at November 09, 2011 06:51 AM (STdkO)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamanite
Posted by: Lizabth at November 09, 2011 06:51 AM (JZBti)
Posted by: Vote Cthulhu/joncelli 2012 at November 09, 2011 06:52 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Jean at November 09, 2011 06:52 AM (WkuV6)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at November 09, 2011 06:52 AM (ZDUD4)
Posted by: Joffen at November 09, 2011 06:52 AM (zLeKL)
As I heard it, everyone except the AD and that one VP (of finance?) had covered themselves, legally speaking. That TA did when he went to Joe, Joe did when he went to the AD.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at November 09, 2011 06:52 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 09, 2011 06:53 AM (SB0V2)
There are different levels of state support for public universities, but it is a public university. Penn isn't.
Posted by: Y-not at November 09, 2011 06:53 AM (5H6zj)
Interesting argument on smoking gun. http://tinyurl.com/d5bt4v3
What is the sexual orientation (besides "fucked up") of the male on male pedophile?
Posted by: dagny at November 09, 2011 06:53 AM (nwxHD)
Posted by: are we this stupid at November 09, 2011 06:54 AM (k1rwm)
Posted by: Vote Cthulhu/joncelli 2012 at November 09, 2011 06:54 AM (RD7QR)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamanite
Posted by: Lizabth at November 09, 2011 10:51 AM (JZBti)
I can read Chesterton or Lewis for Christian apologetics. Who is a good author for LDS?Posted by: The Robot Devil at November 09, 2011 06:55 AM (136wp)
The G20 meeting was a joke with jokers.
How do we prop up this failing economic system? That's what those idiots tried to figure out.
Posted by: doomsayer at November 09, 2011 06:55 AM (sqkOB)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 09, 2011 06:55 AM (SB0V2)
Mittens, is this you? We hang by a thread!
You all (men) can be gods on your own planets, with myriad wives, all pregnant. Sounds good, no? Yes, you have to wear the silly undies, but hey...godhood has a price!
Posted by: Lizabth at November 09, 2011 06:55 AM (JZBti)
The Pennsylvania State University was originally chartered by an act of the Legislature of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania on February 22, 1855. The Morrill Act of 1862 (known as the Land Grant Act) of the Congress of the United States was accepted by the Pennsylvania Legislature in 1863 and Penn State was thereafter designated as the institution in Pennsylvania to receive the benefits of the act.
The Board of Trustees of The Pennsylvania State University is the corporate body established by the charter with complete responsibility for the government and welfare of the University and all the interests pertaining thereto including students, faculty, staff and alumni.Posted by: Y-not at November 09, 2011 06:55 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: katya, the designated driver at November 09, 2011 06:56 AM (kpb4T)
BUT! But. The school itself, the entire university, the students, alums and staff, should not be dragged entirely down by the actions of one sick fuck. I do put the blame on the Prez and the football program that knew about this. But let's not allow everything PSU to be utterly turned to sh*t by one pedo. It's not fair to do that either.
Of course being RC and having my kids in Catholic school this is an argument I have a lot.
Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 09, 2011 10:53 AM (SB0V2)
Really, if you're going to work with kids, I swear they're going to have to do that test where they hook up the guy to electrodes and show him porn and see what turns him on.
Does anyone know the stats for pedophilia? Is is more girls or boys getting molested? And I mean pre-pubescent. While horribly wrong I don't see diddling someone who has an adult body and is underage the same level of sicko as one who still has a kid's body.
Posted by: dagny at November 09, 2011 06:57 AM (nwxHD)
Ah, okay - just don't give the trolls any attention,
. Deprives them of their poewr.btw, if you are interested in the Nightmare on Elm Street movies, I'd recommend the 1st movie, the 3rd movie, and Wes Craven's "A New Nightmare" (which is how I think "re imaginings" should work).
Coincidentally, they all star Heather Langenkamp who steals the show in all of these movies, especially "New Nightmare".
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at November 09, 2011 06:57 AM (9hSKh)
Posted by: Joffen at November 09, 2011 06:57 AM (zLeKL)
But gosh, they're great, nice people!
Posted by: Lizabth at November 09, 2011 06:57 AM (JZBti)
Posted by: dagny at November 09, 2011 06:58 AM (nwxHD)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 09, 2011 06:58 AM (SB0V2)
Posted by: katya, the designated driver at November 09, 2011 06:58 AM (kpb4T)
Not stopping it immediately and forcefully is a crime -- perhaps not according to the law -- but certainly according to any moral and ethical code of behavior.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at November 09, 2011 06:59 AM (3vSLn)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at November 09, 2011 07:00 AM (ZDUD4)
Male gay pedos are just sneaky fucks, aren't they? They get in these positions and they hide things well. Hetero pedos are just sloppier seems like.
That's the argument on the smoking gun. They say that pedos aren't gay when if they prey on boys. I contend that a straight man is never attracted to male genitalia regardless of age.
Posted by: dagny at November 09, 2011 07:01 AM (nwxHD)
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at November 09, 2011 10:57 AM (9hSKh)
LOL yeah I knew that. It was rather horrifying that it picked me though.
And thanks for the advice, she sounds like someone I should see.
Posted by: NC Ref at November 09, 2011 07:02 AM (/izg2)
I was looking for something along the lines of "The Everlasting Man" or "Mere Christianity"
Posted by: The Robot Devil at November 09, 2011 07:03 AM (136wp)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at November 09, 2011 07:03 AM (ZDUD4)
Posted by: dagny at November 09, 2011 07:03 AM (nwxHD)
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at November 09, 2011 07:04 AM (jx2j9)
Exactly. Fortunately for the perverts out there we've defined deviancy down to the point that in 10-15 years, raping a child will probably be considered a matter of one's "genes", not one's character.
Posted by: Lincolntf at November 09, 2011 07:04 AM (Qjh0I)
Posted by: phoenixgirl ready to drink the perry flavor-aid..can i get a different flavor? at November 09, 2011 07:04 AM (SH3gZ)
What about burkas, matzo balls and eyes of newt?
Posted by: Fritz at November 09, 2011 07:06 AM (/ZZCn)
265
I think Mitt is going to have a very hard time in the general election if he's the nominee.
I think so too.....for a lot of reasons. There is a long list of things that Romney will get shredded by the media for, and his being a Mormon is only one of them:
Hedge Fund Mgr, Millionaire, Corporatist, Killed domestic jobs, Exported jobs.....these are the things they'll use against him to alienate swing-voters.
Squishy positions and flip-flops on conservative issues....these are things that alienate conservatives.
The Mormon thing, plus the fact that his branch of the Romney clan hails from the Mexican poligamy settlement where his dad was born.....this will be used against him with Evangelicals.
People say that "Obama won with 52%". .....But a lot of conservatives stayed home. So he really only won with 52% of the people who voted.
That thing that people keep saying...."anyone can beat Obama"....is a myth. And a trap. ....If Romney is our nominee, it is going to be a very tough job to beat Obama.
Posted by: ConservativeMenAreJustHotter at November 09, 2011 07:07 AM (HhXzd)
My husband's high school did the same thing. They had a molestor football coach they IGNORED and helped for 20 years. Suicides, alcoholics, etc. He picked on vunerable boys. Hubby was invited on a ride home and some senior told him not to go. He didn't find out till recently. The school is still fighting the charges but there are sooo many boys who were molested.
http://tinyurl.com/7pvcuwn
Posted by: dagny at November 09, 2011 07:07 AM (nwxHD)
What is ignored is that NAMBLA was more closely aligned with the Gay movement in the Seventies. Mainstream Gay people distanced themselves from NAMBLA in the early Eighties.
Posted by: The Robot Devil at November 09, 2011 07:07 AM (136wp)
Yeah, my message to him is to put an F to the U.
In obviously more important news, there is a thursday NFL game this week, so don't forget to pick em, because you don't want me falling out of last place.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 09, 2011 07:08 AM (JYheX)
Posted by: blaster at November 09, 2011 07:08 AM (Fw2Gg)
Penn State football coach Joe Paterno will retire at the end of the season, his long and illustrious career brought down because he failed to do all he could about an allegation of child sex abuse against a former assistant.
"This is a tragedy," Paterno said. "It is one of the great sorrows of my life. With the benefit of hindsight, I wish I had done more."
Paterno has been besieged by criticism since former defensive coordinator and one-time heir apparent Jerry Sandusky was charged over the weekend with molesting eight young boys between 1994 and 2009. Athletic director Tim Curley and vice president Gary Schultz have been charged with failing to notify authorities after an eyewitness reported a 2002 assault.
Paterno decided to retire at age 84, in the middle of his 46th season with the Nittany Lions. He won 409 games, a record for major college football, but now, the grandfatherly coach known as "Joe Pa," who had painstakingly burnished a reputation for winning "the right way," leaves the only school he's ever coached in disgrace.
"I am absolutely devastated by the developments in this case," he said. "I grieve for the children and their families, and I pray for their comfort and relief."
Announced a few minutes ago
Posted by: Y-not at November 09, 2011 07:09 AM (5H6zj)
Maybe this was what Rush was referring to yesterday in his comments on the Penn State scandal. He stated even though he doesn't care what other people think of him, he didn't think he could get away with actually saying out loud what was obvious or what people would be thinking.
With everything that has happened in my life in the past year, I haven't commented on here in a while. Dang, it feels good!
Posted by: Marybeth at November 09, 2011 07:09 AM (Ks0w4)
That thing that people keep saying...."anyone can beat Obama"....is a myth. And a trap. ....If Romney is our nominee, it is going to be a very tough job to beat Obama.
Posted by: ConservativeMenAreJustHotter at November 09, 2011 11:07 AM (HhXzd)
At that is why he is currently the darling of the media. They failed pushing Huntsman, so they defaulted to the next biggest RINO.
Posted by: The Robot Devil at November 09, 2011 07:10 AM (136wp)
Posted by: Joffen at November 09, 2011 07:10 AM (zLeKL)
Posted by: dagny at November 09, 2011 07:10 AM (nwxHD)
"With the benefit of hindsight?" What? Like it should take the Wisdom of Solomon to know that a dude buggering little boys isn't okay, and should be turned in to police as soon as you're aware of the issue?
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at November 09, 2011 07:11 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at November 09, 2011 07:12 AM (ZDUD4)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 09, 2011 07:13 AM (JYheX)
Posted by: blaster at November 09, 2011 07:13 AM (Fw2Gg)
Posted by: dagny at November 09, 2011 07:14 AM (nwxHD)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at November 09, 2011 07:14 AM (ZDUD4)
Posted by: Joffen at November 09, 2011 07:15 AM (zLeKL)
He really should be gone now. He knew the guy had a problem stemming at least as far back as 1998 with the shower incident that was investigated by campus police and the DA so he cannot hide behind euphemisms like "inappropriate behavior" with a 10 year old and pretend he did not know what that meant.
Posted by: Y-not at November 09, 2011 07:16 AM (5H6zj)
333.....At that is why he is currently the darling of the media. They failed pushing Huntsman, so they defaulted to the next biggest RINO.
Yup. While Romney has had years to prepare, and has been running for 6 years.....the media has also had years to prepare for how they will tear him to shreds.
334....We can get excited about electing a conservative legislature.
Only if we can come up with a way to innoculate them from catching that spinal disease that happens to them when they get to DC.
Posted by: ConservativeMenAreJustHotter at November 09, 2011 07:17 AM (HhXzd)
http://tinyurl.com/crnqxnh
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Posted by: 1/1027th of a Janitor harkening to the call of Newt at November 09, 2011 07:21 AM (tazG1)
Posted by: Joffen at November 09, 2011 07:23 AM (zLeKL)
http://tinyurl.com/77yxpf9
Oh, and the claim that he wasn't trying to retaliate against Dodson; really, what exactly the Hell was he trying to do then?
Fast and Furious check list.
Crime Committed? Yes
More than one person involved in the planning and execution of said crime? Yes
Two yes votes - by definition that means its a Criminal Conspiracy
How about it Monty? Are you going to admit the obvious here or are you holding the AOS party line of : "Conspiracy talk is always crazy tinfoil hat talk."
Posted by: An Observation at November 09, 2011 07:24 AM (ylhEn)
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Posted by: Errol at November 09, 2011 07:28 AM (vewos)
Hmmmmm...is it just my imagination or did we have all of this circa 1776 without publicly funded, government, compulsory education?
The system was not designed to produce good, literate, thinking productive citizens. It's designed to produce ignorant, illiterate, compulsively consuming and compliant workers and citizens. And it's doing an excellent job of this.
In the words of John Taylor Gatto it's "Intellectual Espionage".
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