September 21, 2011

DOOM: It tastes like burning!
— Monty

DOOOOM

The Fed is expected to make some sort of announcement this morning, and the chatter is that it will be big. QE3? Something else? I’m still a skeptic about QE3, but it’s obvious that Bernanke is feeling a lot of political heat -- and not just from the Obama Administration, but from world markets. The consensus opinion is that the Fed will engage in “Operation Twist” -- rolling their huge backlog of short-term securities into longer (10-year) bonds and thereby driving down yields there. The thinking is that this will in turn prompt investors to put their money elsewhere in a restless search for better yields. However, I am skeptical about this because the evidence so far is that investors are in a very “risk off” mood, and lowering yields on longer bonds the way they have on shorter ones (all the way down to zero) will simply have bad long-term effects with few (or any) short-term gains. Monetary policy is played out; only fiscal policy can turn things around now, but nothing is likely to happen on that front until after the 2012 elections. Which may be why Bernanke is getting a tad panicky: a whole year of sideways drift in the thrall of a double-dip recession and possible financial collapse in Europe stokes his deflationary nightmares.

Thomas Sowell weighs in on the "Social Security is a Ponzi scheme" thing.

The fundamental problem of Social Security is that the irresponsible way its finances are set up, and the changing demographics of the country, mean that there is simply not going to be enough money in its trust fund to pay todayÂ’s young people what they are legally entitled to when the time comes for them to retire.

The money is just not there, some of it having been spent for unrelated purposes. Making up a growing shortfall — as baby boomers stop paying into the system as they retire and start drawing money out of the system — would mean ever-increasing burdens on taxpayers that taxpayers are unlikely to put up with.

Paul Ryan on SS: Yeah, itÂ’s a Ponzi scheme. Maybe not criminal, but a Ponzi scheme nonetheless. (SS is the third rail of politics? Not any more.)

What comes after Europe? IÂ’ve already gone into that: The Humongous.

What comes next is the explosion of the European project. Given what European leaders have made of that project over the past 30-odd years, it's not an altogether bad thing. But it will come at a massive cost. The riots of Athens will become those of Milan, Madrid and Marseilles. Parties of the fringe will gain greater sway. Border checkpoints will return. Currencies will be resurrected, then devalued. Countries will choose decay over reform. It's a long, likely parade of horribles.
DOOM!

ObamaÂ’s ignorance about basic economics is very much of a piece with the rest of his Presidency, alas. Like many powerful men through the ages, he has fallen prey to the idea that he can simply wave his hand and cause the tides of history to shift.

Economics: one of those academic fields in which repeated failure is no bar to great success.

Obama cares about jobs. Union jobs. Others? Not so much.

CaliforniaÂ’s public pension battles will be fought in city halls all over the state.

Merck is the next company to contemplate layoffs in the 10K range. They employ a lot of people in Philadelphia, so that's going to put a hell of a hurt on the local economy.

Granholm: “Let my personal failure and ineptitude act as a beacon to all those who wish to piss away taxpayer money and flout the wishes of the electorate!” Detroit is a fitting symbol for that clueless git.

Class warfare and the rule of law.

[T]hose earning less than $250,000 still have to someday find a willing buyer for the assets they wish to sell, and those assets are going to be a lot less attractive to most individuals, funds and other institutional investors — a.k.a. the market — if they’re taxed at 30-odd percent instead of 15 percent.
Exactly so. A sale of an asset requires both buyer and seller, and an accurate price mechanism to drive the trade. More:
The Democrats are declaring war on everybody’s investments here, not just Joe Millionaire’s. Look for major institutional investors, private-equity types, and even venture capitalists — a.k.a. the financial lifeblood of a modern economy — to start seeking friendlier tax environments abroad. Nobody has to have an office on Wall Street any more.

Your stimulus dollars, hard at work on vital issues facing our nation.

End the tyranny of the Keynesians!

The British “tea party” movement seems to be gaining ground. Not a moment too soon.

The IMF, always masters at stating the obvious too late to do anyone any good, warn about a global slowdown in growth.

I don’t know why so many observers keep acting shocked that Obama refuses to move to the political center. He is a leftist ideologue in blood and bone, not a chummy moral lout like Clinton was. He will speak soothing platitudes to the public when he must, but his vanity is as great as his ineptitude. He will never admit that he is wrong, or that he must share power. He truly believes that his is the Imperial Presidency; he is outraged that he can be hindered by his political opponents. It is obvious that he does not consider the Legislative branch to be his co-equal in power, but rather a group of lackeys to be ordered about like house-servants. It offends him to be disagreed with -- so sure is he of his essential correctness, of his righteousness, that he conflates political disagreement with treachery. He will “compromise” only when forced to do so, and then only grudgingly.

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1 Fff  iii  rrrrss t Dooo  om

Posted by: Obama at September 21, 2011 04:49 AM (rN9Na)

2 First?

Posted by: jwb7605 at September 21, 2011 04:49 AM (Qxe/p)

3 Purging is at last at hand. Day of Doom is here. All that is evil, all their allies; your parents, your leaders, those who would call themselves your judges; those who have lied and corrupted the Earth, they shall all be cleansed.

Posted by: blaster at September 21, 2011 04:51 AM (Fw2Gg)

4 Lots-o-doom this morning.

Posted by: Vic at September 21, 2011 04:52 AM (M9Ie6)

5 Obama sucks cock...but the 52% of Americans that voted for him suck even more.

Posted by: Mr Pink at September 21, 2011 04:52 AM (cC4SF)

Posted by: Mjim at September 21, 2011 04:53 AM (rN9Na)

Posted by: Vic at September 21, 2011 04:53 AM (M9Ie6)

8 Ooops, should have read further.

Posted by: Vic at September 21, 2011 04:54 AM (M9Ie6)

9
Repost, from former thread.

Ex-Solyndra Employees Now Applying For Trade Adjustment Assistance

All on our dime.. After sucking up the bulk of the $527 million.


Posted by: franksalterego at September 21, 2011 04:56 AM (7/sDI)

10 Operation twist, is the talk I hear.
Lets twist again like we did last summer .....

Posted by: MarkC at September 21, 2011 04:59 AM (yPPVC)

11 From that Granholm link:

The former Michigan governor bears globalization's worst scars, but still itches for a fight. Watch out, Rick Perry

The stupid in that article is epic. Perry has nothing to fear from this idiot scrunt.  And she is so stupid she can't even see the irony in her own statements.

Posted by: Vic at September 21, 2011 04:59 AM (M9Ie6)

12

@3:  LOL!  Nice.

The riots of Athens will become those of Milan, Madrid and Marseilles. Parties of the fringe will gain greater sway. Border checkpoints will return. Currencies will be resurrected, then devalued. Countries will choose decay over reform. It's a long, likely parade of horribles.

Let this come.  I see this as in some ways positive for us.  Especially the fringe parties gaining ground.  My hope is that nationalism will enjoy a rebirth.  If it does, we can go back to having a diversity of policies and opinions on the continent again.  If all goes exceptionally well the new regimes will be nativist and anti-immigrant.  Europe needs to be set back in order - the best thing that can be done is to purge the foreign.  Eurosocialism wasn't such a problem when there was cultural solidarity.  Now, with the "salad bowl" approach to national identity, all that was once good is being tossed out the window.  Let's hope that Europe's hot-blooded genes are reactivated and given expression. 

 

Posted by: Reactionary at September 21, 2011 04:59 AM (xUM1Q)

13 Fuck i hope president downgrade runs late. I have no need to watch him suck UN cack

Posted by: Zakn at September 21, 2011 05:01 AM (zyaZ1)

14

The stupid in that article is epic. Perry has nothing to fear from this idiot scrunt. And she is so stupid she can't even see the irony in her own statements.

Posted by: Vic at September 21, 2011 08:59 AM (M9Ie6)

 

Amen.  The vile harpy was on the radio recently saying "tax cuts don't work - we tried dozens of tax cuts and they failed."  That is either a deliberate lie, or evidence of the worst kind of foolishness.  I live in this forsaken state - I know full well that tax cuts have been in short supply, but hikes to taxes and fees have been abundant. 

Sadly, the Dem machine will make sure she's well taken care of.  Sickening.

Posted by: Reactionary at September 21, 2011 05:02 AM (xUM1Q)

15 He is a leftist ideologue in blood and bone, not a chummy moral lout like Clinton was. He will speak soothing platitudes to the public when he must, but his vanity is as great as his ineptitude.

Ah but Monty, Obama IS doing exactly what Clinton did. He is talking (rhetoric) like he is moving to the center but his actions are continuing to act as a hard core leftist.

This is the same thing Clinton did and of course the press called it "triangulating" and gave him credit for what the Republican congress did even though he fought them tooth and nail.

Posted by: Vic at September 21, 2011 05:02 AM (M9Ie6)

16 And finally, must be a good show on TV that kitteh is watching.

Posted by: Vic at September 21, 2011 05:03 AM (M9Ie6)

17 Study Confirms what we all know: Bureaucracy is bad for the economy and other living things.
 
“Even a small 5 percent reduction in the regulatory budget (about $2.8 billion) would result in about $75 billion in expanded private-sector GDP each year, with an increase in employment by 1.2 million jobs annually.”

“On average,” the Phoenix Center says, “eliminating the job of a single regulator grows the American economy by $6.2 million and nearly 100 private sector jobs annually. Conversely, each million dollar increase in the regulatory budget costs the economy 420 private sector jobs.”

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at September 21, 2011 05:10 AM (PLvLS)

18 Great Perry ad worth spreading Yep.

Posted by: Joffen at September 21, 2011 05:11 AM (EPcuy)

19 DOOM kitteh looks like a Ron Paul supporter.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff, Underwear Blogger at September 21, 2011 05:14 AM (z/Mo8)

20 Doom!   More flavors than Baskins Robbins, and without the cone.

Posted by: dfbaskwill at September 21, 2011 05:14 AM (71LDo)

21 Jennifer Granholm, lol F*cking lol

Posted by: Highsmith at September 21, 2011 05:16 AM (X1kJ0)

22 Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure.  (Can't believe THAT hasn't been said here yet.)

Also, he has no idea what he's doing, and this concept of just 'willing it to be so' is outragous and offensive to anyone who has ever worked a day in their life - which, of course, Obama has not.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at September 21, 2011 05:19 AM (wnbjH)

23 What's all this about Social Security being a Fonzie scheme? What does that nice young juvie from Milwaukee have to do with my entitlements? Why don't we get french benefits? Why just the french? Never mind. Zombie Emily Litella

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 21, 2011 05:21 AM (UlUS4)

24 EU, hurry up and 'slode. It sucks in the doldrums.

Posted by: dogfish at September 21, 2011 05:22 AM (N2yhW)

25 I caught Granholm on Morning Joe. Did you know she drastically slashed taxes and government spending as governor? I didn't know that either. According to that commie, she was Tea Party before there was a Tea Party, but turns out their ideas were a total failure as evidenced by the miserable state she left Michigan in. Her conclusion, full-on Obamunism is our only hope.

Posted by: mugiwara at September 21, 2011 05:22 AM (W7ffl)

26 So, if the EU crashes will we have European boat people?

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at September 21, 2011 05:23 AM (ZDUD4)

27 13 Fuck i hope president downgrade runs late. I have no need to watch him suck UN cack Posted by: Zakn at September 21, 2011 09:01 AM (zyaZ1) Are you really gonna watch that? I'll be watching Caillou while reading through the rest of the DOOM links and consider it time well spent. I avoid listening to the SCOAMF at all costs. I usually read the transcripts just so I knowwhat bullshit he's spewing today, but I can't handle listening to his voice and seeing that arrogant prick look on his face.

Posted by: Mandy P., Teahadi from Hobbitton at September 21, 2011 05:23 AM (qFpRI)

28 Countries will choose decay over reform. It's a long, likely parade of horribles.

And I was laughed at when I said that in the end, there will be only chaos...

Forgive me if this is a repeat story:

What YouÂ’re Not Hearing About the New Jobs Bill: It Overrides StateÂ’s Rights



Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at September 21, 2011 05:23 AM (9hSKh)

29 Is there anything that the Obomunist ever proposes that isn't an unconstitutional abnegation of the State authority?

Posted by: Vic at September 21, 2011 05:25 AM (M9Ie6)

30 SS is the third rail of politics? Not any more.

not so fast...wait til after the election to dtermine that.




Posted by: jeanne at September 21, 2011 05:26 AM (8hQ2+)

31 The sidebar article on containers is pretty interesting.

Posted by: Waterhouse at September 21, 2011 05:26 AM (u83UF)

32 What ever happened to the other 400M government load to the Solyrda?

Posted by: Jean at September 21, 2011 05:28 AM (WkuV6)

33 I have a proposal, we make it illegal for any elected official to have anyone else do their taxes, no CPAs no lawyers, and audit each and every one of them every year. I'll bet the tax code would change very quickly!

Posted by: dontheflyer at September 21, 2011 05:31 AM (vOcVu)

34 So, if the EU crashes will we have European boat people?

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at September 21, 2011 09:23 AM (ZDUD4)

LOL!

Posted by: Tami at September 21, 2011 05:32 AM (X6akg)

35 12:  There is, of course, a downside to that scenario as well, you realize.  A very, very bloody and destructive one.

For all the clear downsides, there's a very good reason why Europe has behaved the way it did for the last 60-odd years.

Posted by: DarkLord© sez Obama is a stuttering clusterf--- of a miserable failure
Oh, and F--- Nevada!
at September 21, 2011 05:33 AM (GBXon)

36 38th bitches

Posted by: Ms Choksondik at September 21, 2011 05:34 AM (nxptv)

37

38th fail 

Posted by: Ms Choksondik at September 21, 2011 05:35 AM (nxptv)

38 37th

Posted by: phoenixgirl at September 21, 2011 05:35 AM (eOXTH)

39 make it illegal for any elected official to have anyone else do their taxes, no CPAs no lawyers,

Atleast it would keep them too busy to make more trouble for the rest of us. Maybe you should extend the restriction to some appointed officials, like those at the EPA.

Posted by: Retread at September 21, 2011 05:35 AM (BO5ap)

40 So, if the EU crashes will we have European boat people?

European refugees from failed economies and general warfare fleeing to North America?  What an absurd proposition...

Posted by: DarkLord© sez Obama is a stuttering clusterf--- of a miserable failure
Oh, and F--- Nevada!
at September 21, 2011 05:36 AM (GBXon)

41 Every morning I like to get up just before the crack of DOOM.  It sets the stage for the whole day.  Yet once again I'm late.  DOOMed!  That's what I am.  DOOMed.

Woe is me.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at September 21, 2011 05:36 AM (jx2j9)

42 Granholm sings the tune many lib leaders sing about jobs. She still believes they leave because of cheap labor. I guess as long as they can delude themselves with that argoment they don't have to take responsibilty for high taxes, untenable regulations and expensive energy.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at September 21, 2011 05:36 AM (ZDUD4)

43 36 38th bitches

Posted by: Ms Choksondik at September 21, 2011 09:34 AM (nxptv)

37

38th fail 

Posted by: Ms Choksondik at September 21, 2011 09:35 AM (nxptv)

38 37th

Posted by: phoenixgirl at September 21, 2011 09:35 AM (eOXTH)


Er, we'll let you two hash that one out.

Posted by: DarkLord© sez Obama is a stuttering clusterf--- of a miserable failure
Oh, and F--- Nevada!
at September 21, 2011 05:36 AM (GBXon)

44 The sons of bitches seem bound and determined to keep anyone from making any money on investments.  This punishing of people who save has to stop, and soon!

Posted by: Havedash at September 21, 2011 05:36 AM (sFD5n)

45 Mandy, You watch Caillou? That creepy bald bastard gives me the fuckin jimmy-jams. And I think his dad is definitely down with the cock.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 21, 2011 05:38 AM (z/Mo8)

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at September 21, 2011 05:39 AM (9hSKh)

47 45, Oh hello, they are canadian, if that helps.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at September 21, 2011 05:39 AM (ZDUD4)

48 Morning all.

Don't know if this is appropriate for the DOOM! thread, but I have an interview tomorrow for a real job. One with decent pay and full benefits.

Wish me luck!

Posted by: mpurinTexas, Evil Conservanatrix, supports Rick Perry, bitch at September 21, 2011 05:40 AM (pY3GI)

49 Good luck, mpur!  You'll do well! 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at September 21, 2011 05:40 AM (9hSKh)

50 Granholm is a clueless scrunt.. delusional as well.. these libtards drive a state's economy into the ground and then write books about how awesome (though misunderstood) they are.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at September 21, 2011 05:41 AM (f9c2L)

51 Daniel Hannon.  Now there would be a prime presidential candidate.  All of the sudden I find myself down with this whole concept of fudging a bit on the natural born citizen rule.  More of a guideline than a rule, if you ask me.

It's interesting to note that the British Tea Partiers are every bit as evil as their American counterparts.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at September 21, 2011 05:41 AM (jx2j9)

52 "Europe needs to be set back in order - the best thing that can be done is to purge the foreign."

"Let's hope that Europe's hot-blooded genes are reactivated and given expression."

Posted by: Reactionary at September 21, 2011 08:59 AM (xUM1Q)

You really are a fucking psycho.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at September 21, 2011 05:41 AM (LH6ir)

53 Good luck, mpurin! 

Posted by: Tami at September 21, 2011 05:41 AM (X6akg)

54 Can anyone explain the difference between base money and bank money. I was reading the Elliot Wave Interim Report and it was discussing that concept.

Posted by: The Robot Devil at September 21, 2011 05:41 AM (136wp)

55 Obama cares about jobs. Union jobs. Others? Not so much.

This is sort of odd. During his time with Bill Ayers in the Chicago Annenberg Challenge (CAC) project, they fought the unions.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at September 21, 2011 05:43 AM (e8kgV)

Posted by: Vic at September 21, 2011 05:43 AM (M9Ie6)

57 Go get em. I have given up on a Teaching job and am looking for skilled trades positions. The bitch of it is my wife is relativly successful. If I get a job I have to make just the right amount of money. If I make too much we get killed in taxes. By the time we pay for aftercare for the children it's a wash. If I don't make enough it's pointless because of child care, fuel costs etc. if you make between 100k and 200k, your fucked

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at September 21, 2011 05:46 AM (ZDUD4)

58 It's dangerous for pols to start believing their own propaganda . Obozo actually began to believe that "the sky would open" with just his words.

Posted by: Susan Estrich at September 21, 2011 05:46 AM (Gx3Fe)

59 You really are a fucking psycho. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at September 21, 2011 Maybe, but it doesn't neccessarily make him wrong.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at September 21, 2011 05:48 AM (ZDUD4)

60 It's even more dangerous for pols to forget that once the masses find out you are not the "god king" they were fooled into believing, they turn on you with great vengeance

Posted by: Rudyard Kipling at September 21, 2011 05:48 AM (Gx3Fe)

61 Thanks for the well wishes.

Sure would be nice to factor in a little bit of stability for a change.

Posted by: mpurinTexas, Evil Conservanatrix, supports Rick Perry, bitch at September 21, 2011 05:49 AM (pY3GI)

62 61, That Go get em was aimed at you.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at September 21, 2011 05:52 AM (ZDUD4)

63 52 "Europe needs to be set back in order - the best thing that can be done is to purge the foreign."

"Let's hope that Europe's hot-blooded genes are reactivated and given expression."

Posted by: Reactionary at September 21, 2011 08:59 AM (xUM1Q)

You really are a fucking psycho.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at September 21, 2011 09:41 AM (LH6ir)


I'm not seeing the psycho part of his post.

Posted by: Tami at September 21, 2011 05:54 AM (X6akg)

64 As a licensed practicing dentist  (DDS, FAGD = Doctor of Dental Surgery, Fellow of the Academy of General Dentistry) for the last 30 years,  I would like an opportunity to reply to the video links in the sidebar you have posted about Mercury and mercury leakage associated with silver fillings. If someone from AosS will contact me via my email address I'll gladly explain and debunk most of the pseudo-science presented in that second video. I've spent the last 30 years being confronted by allegedly "holistic" practitioners who don't know as much as they think they know, about sliver amalgam alloys.

Posted by: MrObvious at September 21, 2011 05:54 AM (qwhLZ)

65 That Granholm article is packed with much more than two scoops of stupid. China's "national energy policy" is about building nukes and coal plants like mad, while the evil "laissez-faire" America Granholm whines about is so choked with regulation that doing either is almost impossible. Fucking delusional idiot. She actually goes over there on a fucking boondoggle and can't even make that simple observation.

Posted by: Waterhouse at September 21, 2011 05:56 AM (u83UF)

66 Vic - That IS INDEED the Chicago way.

The biggest crooks are in the legislature, doing the bidding of their union cronies - who, in turn, get out the vote to keep the pols in office.

It is a very efficient system.  And, it works quite well throughout the state of Illinois, despite the Chicago Way monicker..

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at September 21, 2011 05:56 AM (f9c2L)

67 mpurin - Good Luck!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at September 21, 2011 05:59 AM (f9c2L)

68 MrObvious - should I have some implants done in Costa Rice to save money or is that too risky?

Posted by: Jean at September 21, 2011 05:59 AM (WkuV6)

69 46 Shadow of Europe's communist past haunts Greek/euro-zone debt crisis Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at September 21, 2011 09:39 AM (9hSKh) F. Harry Stowe. Exactly who is Harry Stowe and why should he be "effed?"

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 21, 2011 06:00 AM (UlUS4)

70 Granholm is a clueless scrunt.. delusional as well.. these libtards drive a state's economy into the ground and then write books about how awesome (though misunderstood) they are.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at September 21, 2011 09:41 AM (f9c2L)

Miss Jiffy Lube really fucked things up in a major way.  How can that be misunderstood?  This must be kill trees for idiots week because the WSJ reviewed a new collection of mindless tripe by Flathead Friedman.  Andrew Ferguson nailed it pretty well in this equation:  Pointless alliteration + runaway metaphor = Friedmanism

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 21, 2011 06:00 AM (7dMdC)

71 Posted by: Jean at September 21, 2011 09:59 AM (WkuV6) Have you seen the cost'a rice lately?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 21, 2011 06:00 AM (UlUS4)

72

For all the clear downsides, there's a very good reason why Europe has behaved the way it did for the last 60-odd years.

Yes.  There were massive Soviet and American armies involved for the bulk of the period.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 21, 2011 06:01 AM (B+qrE)

73 64, There seems to be a pattern over the past 30 years when it comes to crap like that. Find an obscure problem that could effect everyone that can't be immediately proven not to exist. Find a media person or politician to buy into the theory and report is as fact using subtle qualifying words. Write a book, go on the talk/morning show circuit. Make money for doing next to nothing. Leave in your wake an urban legend that can't be pried from the populations head without a crow bar. Fluoride in the water, DDT, Autism from inoculations, silver fillings, the exploding chevy truck, the list is endless.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at September 21, 2011 06:02 AM (ZDUD4)

74 Maybe, but it doesn't neccessarily make him wrong.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at September 21, 2011 09:48 AM (ZDUD4)

He is advocating for a return to the genocidal tendencies of Europe.

I think that is the mark of a psychotic, a Nazi, or both.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at September 21, 2011 06:03 AM (LH6ir)

75 How do you even get a kitty to pose like that, those flattened ears look like kitty is ready to take a chunk out of anybody who gets too close.

Posted by: Boots at September 21, 2011 06:04 AM (neKzn)

76 This new Rick Perry Ad is AMAZING:

http://tinyurl.com/5rgt6mz

Posted by: Bill Mitchell at September 21, 2011 06:04 AM (uVlA4)

77 I think he wants to send them home, not to a gas chamber. If I am wrong then I will agree with you.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at September 21, 2011 06:04 AM (ZDUD4)

78 Fuckin' Granhom. How does it work?

Posted by: ICP at September 21, 2011 06:06 AM (W7ffl)

79

Like many powerful men through the ages, he has fallen prey to the idea that he can simply wave his hand and cause the tides of history to shift.

Don't worry.  I'm closing in.

Posted by: Nemesis, following Hubris at September 21, 2011 06:06 AM (DrWcr)

80 Posted by: Tami at September 21, 2011 09:54 AM (X6akg)

He is advocating genocide. That is psychotic. And he has advocated it in the past by suggesting, among other things, that we use nuclear weapons on large parts of the Muslim world to decrease the population of potential Islamists.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at September 21, 2011 06:06 AM (LH6ir)

81 Raise your hand if you're a Stuttering Clusterf*** Of A Miserable Failure: http://bit.ly/rmfO5B

Posted by: Chuck Z at September 21, 2011 06:07 AM (OITDh)

82

Fuckin' Granhom. How does it work?

About as well as expected.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 21, 2011 06:07 AM (B+qrE)

83

Corrupt democrat unions will be the death of our nation.

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at September 21, 2011 06:07 AM (0fzsA)

84 robot - base money is liquid cash, bank money is less liquid, stuff that is tied up. it is poor terminology as bank money is really potential value with a risk that it cannot be converted into base money at the posted rate.

Posted by: Jean at September 21, 2011 06:07 AM (WkuV6)

85 I think it's because every time those hot-blooded European genes kick in America has to go over to Europe and kick those genes back into remission.

Posted by: Downscaled Upscale at September 21, 2011 09:56 AM (IhHdM)

I thought he meant that Europe's problems have, in part, come from the massive influx of foreigners *cough* *muslims* *cough* and to solve some of their problems they need to 'purge the foreigners'.  No?

Posted by: Tami at September 21, 2011 06:07 AM (X6akg)

86

For all the clear downsides, there's a very good reason why Europe has behaved the way it did for the last 60-odd years.

Yes.  There were massive Soviet and American armies involved for the bulk of the period.

Well yeah, but after the previous two rounds, there was...a distinct lack of enthusiasm, shall we say.

Though everyone agreed on keeping Germany down.  Yeah, how'd that work out, folks...

Posted by: DarkLord© sez Obama is a stuttering clusterf--- of a miserable failure
Oh, and F--- Nevada!
at September 21, 2011 06:07 AM (GBXon)

87
He is advocating genocide. That is psychotic. And he has advocated it in the past by suggesting, among other things, that we use nuclear weapons on large parts of the Muslim world to decrease the population of potential Islamists.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at September 21, 2011 10:06 AM (LH6ir)

Oh...genocide?  No.  Mass deportations....Yes.

Posted by: Tami at September 21, 2011 06:08 AM (X6akg)

88 Hi everybody, who's ready for a day of Bernanke bamboozling? Even lower interest rates? Bwahahahahahaha

Posted by: Malcolm Z at September 21, 2011 06:08 AM (le5qc)

89 I took what he said to be a comment on Europe's fecundity. They need to make a lot of babies - right now.

Posted by: Jean at September 21, 2011 06:09 AM (WkuV6)

90 Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at September 21, 2011 10:04 AM (ZDUD4)

"So, that said, the right solution for the muslim problem is the final solution."

That is a direct quotation from reactionary. I see it as advocating genocide.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at September 21, 2011 06:10 AM (LH6ir)

91 81, You do understand that Islam is currently engaged in genocide against Chritians in the sudan. You do also realize that the nation of Islam would if it could nuke the Jews out of exsistance. You do understand when their knees hit that prayer rug it's not for our goog health and happiness. Just understand, they have made it clear if they had our tools they would kill us all. I have seen them in action, up close and personal, they are not kidding, they mean it.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at September 21, 2011 06:11 AM (ZDUD4)

92 Do you think anyone will note (in German) the sweet irony of Germany dominating Europe financially thru Nietzsche's paradigm of Jewness?

Posted by: Jean at September 21, 2011 06:13 AM (WkuV6)

93 "Europe needs to be set back in order - the best thing that can be done is to purge the foreign." "Let's hope that Europe's hot-blooded genes are reactivated and given expression." There's no such thing as a "European." You've got dozens of nationalities there. They're ALL fucking "foreign" to each other. And yes, it does sound like "kill the muslims." You don't need "hot-blooded genes" for deportation. Just a sense of self-preservation.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 21, 2011 06:14 AM (z/Mo8)

94 91, I guess you could see it that way.

Posted by: Jean at September 21, 2011 06:14 AM (WkuV6)

95 Posted by: Tami at September 21, 2011 10:08 AM (X6akg)

No. He advocates mass murder. He has done it in the past (see #91), and will undoubtedly continue to do so in the future. He is a Nazi/communist masquerading as a human.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at September 21, 2011 06:15 AM (LH6ir)

96 As a person who lived under the Granholm administration, I can say she if full of shit.  She ruined business in this state, and encouraged unions.  If she has any influence over Obama, he is a bigger fool than even I thought he is.  And she never tried tax breaks.

Posted by: chillin the most for Perry at September 21, 2011 06:15 AM (6IV8T)

97 Sell orders in

Posted by: Jean at September 21, 2011 06:15 AM (WkuV6)

98 Boned.

Posted by: that guy that always thinks we're boned at September 21, 2011 06:15 AM (GTbGH)

99 Or... how about decaffeinated?

Posted by: Look a NAZI! Uh, I mean I don't agree with you at September 21, 2011 10:15 AM (OxEIJ)

That's funny, but the link is odd beyond belief.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at September 21, 2011 06:17 AM (LH6ir)

100 I took what he said to be a comment on Europe's fecundity. They need to make a lot of babies - right now.

Posted by: Jean at September 21, 2011 10:09 AM (WkuV6)

Won't happen.  Western Civilization has become too sexually "sophisticated" to make lots of babies.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 21, 2011 06:18 AM (FkKjr)

101 Obumbles is making his speech to the U.N. as I type.

Posted by: Mjim at September 21, 2011 06:19 AM (rN9Na)

102 Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at September 21, 2011 10:11 AM (ZDUD4)

Yes, I am aware of Islam's murderous side (really, it's the entirety of the religion). But nuking Shitcanistan just because it is Muslim is beyond the pale.

What should we do in Sudan? Unrestricted warfare against the perpetrators of this genocide.

We are the good guys. We stop genocide; we don't perpetrate it.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at September 21, 2011 06:22 AM (LH6ir)

103 Oh boy, he is singing the praises of the united nations. If OSP was in charge that place would be Condos.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at September 21, 2011 06:23 AM (ZDUD4)

104 45 Mandy, You watch Caillou? That creepy bald bastard gives me the fuckin jimmy-jams. And I think his dad is definitely down with the cock. Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 21, 2011 09:38 AM (z/Mo Caillou is my daughter's favorite show. It's a little soft, but I've never seen a Caillou episode where a character turns to the audience and tell the kiddies that sometimes they know better than their parents (which is why Nick and Nick, Jr is banned in my house). And it's quiet.

Posted by: Mandy P., Teahadi from Hobbitton at September 21, 2011 06:23 AM (qFpRI)

105 The fierce urgency of the teleprompter unfolding at the UN!

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 21, 2011 06:23 AM (AF1jB)

106

SCOAMF gives a record shattering soccer kick to the groin to the rule of law.

Another one!  One gets the impression the the stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure doesnÂ’t give a flying fuck about laws.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at September 21, 2011 06:24 AM (jx2j9)

107 106 Obumbles is making his speech to the U.N. as I type.

Posted by: Mjim at September 21, 2011 10:19 AM (rN9Na)

Will he deliver the part of his speech about Israel in the original German?

Posted by: Insomniac at September 21, 2011 06:24 AM (DrWcr)

108 85 robot - base money is liquid cash, bank money is less liquid, stuff that is tied up. it is poor terminology as bank money is really potential value with a risk that it cannot be converted into base money at the posted rate.

Posted by: Jean at September 21, 2011 10:07 AM (WkuV6)

Thanks!

Posted by: The Robot Devil at September 21, 2011 06:24 AM (136wp)

109 Wait a sec; after spending all that time talking about the Libyans overthrowing Qaddafi, Obama says "the idea that change comes from violence died with [Osama]"?

Posted by: Anachronda at September 21, 2011 06:24 AM (6fER6)

110 Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 21, 2011 10:14 AM (z/Mo

Deportation sounds fine. These people have made no effort to integrate themselves into polite society, so Europe should toss them out.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at September 21, 2011 06:24 AM (LH6ir)

111 ...speech to the U.N. as I type. Yeah, all the world's problems solved.

Posted by: dogfish at September 21, 2011 06:24 AM (vn7d1)

112 Obumbles is making his speech to the U.N. as I type.

Posted by: Mjim at September 21, 2011 10:19 AM (rN9Na)

Obama and the UN....double your puke.

Posted by: Tami at September 21, 2011 06:26 AM (X6akg)

113

Will he deliver the part of his speech about Israel in the original German?

Posted by: Insomniac at September 21, 2011 10:24 AM (DrWcr)

And we have a winner!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at September 21, 2011 06:26 AM (LH6ir)

114 Every time I see the SCOAMF speak he looks more and more like Mussolini. I keep expecting him to come out in a uniform, cross his arms over his chest, and nod to the crowd with that pointed chin.

Posted by: joncelli at September 21, 2011 06:27 AM (RD7QR)

115 Holy buckets, he's making another speech.

Posted by: katya, the designated driver at September 21, 2011 06:27 AM (4rQH4)

116

Uh oh. This means inflation, big time. Moreso than in the last few years, and a move like this by the Clueless Fed will speed it up, too many investors will see it coming - watch for commodities like Oil and Gas to skyrocket, along with energy prices in all 57 states, as promised by the POTUS. Another campaign promise kept.

Bad news on the doorstep, Good news for Gold and especially Silver prices. See how long this one lasts: http://zapit.nu/CheapSilver

Posted by: MisterMoney at September 21, 2011 06:28 AM (wN82N)

117 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

And today's was the Worst Commute Ever.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at September 21, 2011 06:28 AM (8y9MW)

118

Will he deliver the part of his speech about Israel in the original German?

Posted by: Insomniac at September 21, 2011 10:24 AM (DrWcr)

I believe that was the Austrian language.  Easy mistake to make.  You're forgiven.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at September 21, 2011 06:29 AM (jx2j9)

119
President Fuckface is putting the UN assembly to sleep with yet another self-lauding speech.

Posted by: Soothsayer at September 21, 2011 06:29 AM (sqkOB)

120 Hide your kids, hide your wife!

Posted by: The Chap in the Deerstalker Cap at September 21, 2011 06:30 AM (qndXR)

121

You rang?

Love the doom posts btw. Best common man explanation of the current financial picture on the web. I am serious. Great work.

Posted by: Lord Humungus Wasteland Teahadi at September 21, 2011 06:30 AM (Yv6gq)

122 We are the good guys. We stop genocide; we don't perpetrate it. I agree that's the way it should be. But we are not stopping it. I don't know if you watched the Video about the lost boys of the Sudan but I did. all 89 minutes of it. Instead of supporting Christians in Africa we are propping up muslims, we are involving ourselves in Lybia. For what? Helping Muslims in a Muslim state is like feeding a Tiger. As long as you throw in a side of beef it will probably leave you alone. Once you stop feeding it, it eats you.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at September 21, 2011 06:30 AM (ZDUD4)

123 "the idea that change comes from violence died with [Osama]"?

Posted by: Anachronda at September 21, 2011 10:24 AM (6fER6)'

With all due respect Mr Obama, perhaps you should open a history book.

Posted by: Presidents FDR and Truman at September 21, 2011 06:30 AM (7BU4a)

124 125 Hide your kids, hide your wife! Posted by: The Chap in the Deerstalker Cap at September 21, 2011 10:30 AM (qndXR) Bambi can have the kids AND the wife if he'll just shut up and resign. (I have to keep the dogs, though.)

Posted by: joncelli at September 21, 2011 06:31 AM (RD7QR)

125 I'm so thankful for the internet.  I don't have to listen to Obama. I just wait for somebody to post a transcript or vital points of his speech.  The sound of his voice sets my teeth on edge.

Posted by: katya, the designated driver at September 21, 2011 06:32 AM (4rQH4)

126 Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure.  (Can't believe THAT hasn't been said here yet.)

Sorry.  Got in to work late.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at September 21, 2011 06:34 AM (8y9MW)

127 I find the less I see or here the SCOAMF, the better I feel.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 21, 2011 06:35 AM (UOM48)

128 The Fuckin' Palestinian in Chief is on my TV again!?

Posted by: garrett at September 21, 2011 06:36 AM (XbvIF)

129

Now hereÂ’s a perfectly neutral position to take from a purely non-partisan department in the federal government.  Way to show the way Dept of Labor. 

Time to flush this entire department, as well.  Once the rot gets this badÂ…  sheesh.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at September 21, 2011 06:36 AM (jx2j9)

130 I'm just a kid who's four. Each day I grow some more. I like exploring. I'm Caiiiiillou. 100% SCOAMF free!

Posted by: Mandy P., Teahadi from Hobbitton at September 21, 2011 06:36 AM (qFpRI)

131

Europe is ripe for a straight-up muslim takeover

I don't see the men of Europe raising a finger to stop it- they let their women be raped; what they don't realize is, they're next

Posted by: Doomie McDoomerson at September 21, 2011 06:36 AM (8sCoq)

132 Charlie Tango Teakettle Barbeque? Posted by: Alexi Sayle at September 21, 2011 10:32 AM (OxEIJ) You betcha! (Uh, what the heck does that mean?)

Posted by: joncelli at September 21, 2011 06:37 AM (RD7QR)

133
Anyone else see the clip of ABC's Ann Curry, White House rump swab?

She was grilling Ron Suskind on his new book that paints Obama as likable guy who's in way over his head.

Ann Curry, rump swab, pointed out three huge errors in Suskind's book and concluded the whole thing was worthless.

One mistake was calling reporter Erin Burnett Erin Burkett.

Another huge error was Suskind saying the DJIA lost 382 points in one particular day in February when in fact the DJIA lost only 378 points.




Posted by: Soothsayer at September 21, 2011 06:37 AM (sqkOB)

134 Good news.  Even if you cancel your On-Star service, they'll continue to track your location and speed.

From The Blaze:

OnStar began e-mailing customers Monday about its update to the privacy policy, which grants OnStar the right to sell that GPS-derived data in an anonymized format.

Adam Denison, a spokesman for the General Motors subsidiary, said OnStar does not currently sell customer data, but it reserves that right. He said both the new and old privacy policies allow OnStar to chronicle a vehicleÂ’s every movement and its speed, though itÂ’s not clear where thatÂ’s stated in the old policy.

“What’s changed [is that if] you want to cancel your OnStar service, we are going to maintain a two-way connection to your vehicle unless the customer says otherwise,” Denison said in a telephone interview.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 21, 2011 06:37 AM (UOM48)

135 So many things to do. Each day is something new. I'll share it with you. I'm Caiiiiiillou.

Posted by: Mandy P. refuses to watch the SCOAMF at September 21, 2011 06:38 AM (qFpRI)

136 138, Growing up is not so tough Cept when I've had enough but there's lots of fun stuff I'm Caiiiiiiillou....................That's Me!!!

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at September 21, 2011 06:38 AM (ZDUD4)

137

Will he deliver the part of his speech about Israel in the original German?

Posted by: Insomniac at September 21, 2011 10:24 AM (DrWcr)

well Austrian sounds so much better than those that knuckledragging English speakers.

Posted by: willow at September 21, 2011 06:38 AM (h+qn8)

138 Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at September 21, 2011 10:30 AM (ZDUD4)

We are not stopping it because of the feckless cocksucker in the White House. We are in Libya for the same reason.

But the step from Obama's catastrophic foreign policy to what reactionary supports is antithetical to everything we are as a country. We destroyed Hitler, but we did not destroy the German people. We destroyed Tojo, but did not destroy Japan.

As for helping Muslims? Fuck 'em. Let them wallow in their 7th century filth. And when they rear their expansionary heads; we should chop them off. That doesn't mean committing genocide; it means defending ourselves.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at September 21, 2011 06:38 AM (LH6ir)

139
"

"The book, officially released today, does have its share of errors. Erin Burnett, then a journalist with CNBC and now with CNN, is identified as Erin Burkett; David Axelrod is identified as ObamaÂ’s 2008 campaign manager; that title actually belonged to David Plouffe.

In the book, Suskind says the unemployment rate in June of 2009 stood at 8.0%; it was actually 9.5%.

“I would caution anyone to assume that if you can’t get those things right, that you suddenly get the broader analysis right,” said White House spokesman Jay Carney. “That analysis is wrong.”"

Posted by: Soothsayer at September 21, 2011 06:39 AM (sqkOB)

140 134 I find the less I see or here hear the SCOAMF, the better I feel.

I can haz moar coffee?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 21, 2011 06:39 AM (UOM48)

141 Natter we much!

Posted by: Das SCOAMF at September 21, 2011 06:40 AM (RD7QR)

142 Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 21, 2011 10:37 AM (UOM4 I'm ok with them keeping the Emergency button operational, but they have no need to track any vehicle that's canceled service. That's just crazy.

Posted by: Mandy P. refuses to watch the SCOAMF at September 21, 2011 06:40 AM (qFpRI)

143 Wish me luck!
Posted by: mpurinTexas

Best of luck to you! My advice: act as if you are interviewing them. The fact that they called you in for an interview means they already want you, so you need to be the one to ask the questions. Ask the interviewer if they like working there and judge the response. Ask about the job, and when you leave, let them know the job sounds great, etc., and that you'd love to have it.

I've approached every interview like this, and I've been employed for the last 19 years. Never had an interview where I wasn't offered the job.

Posted by: Hobbitopoly at September 21, 2011 06:41 AM (h1p5V)

144 48 Morning all.

Don't know if this is appropriate for the DOOM! thread, but I have an interview tomorrow for a real job. One with decent pay and full benefits.

Wish me luck!

Posted by: mpurinTexas, Evil Conservanatrix, supports Rick Perry, bitch at September 21, 2011 09:40 AM (pY3GI)


Working is for suckers....Don't drink the corporate water....You don't need to work you should be working to come to consensus about something....How does this new job promote change?

Posted by: Day of Rager at September 21, 2011 06:41 AM (pdRb1)

145

“I would caution anyone to assume that if you can’t get those things right, that you suddenly get the broader analysis right,” said White House spokesman Jay Carney. “That analysis is wrong.”"

Are we allowed to use that response in relation to Solyndra?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 21, 2011 06:42 AM (B+qrE)

146 We are not stopping it because of the feckless cocksucker in the White House.

Bush didn't stop it either.  It's an institutional thing, where Western Civ has callously declared that the Middle East belongs to Muslims.  Any non-Muslim's living there should kindly stop living in the interests of world peace.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 21, 2011 06:42 AM (FkKjr)

147

UNIONS - The definition of corrution and graft. Union dues payers - are you OK with this?

 

 

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at September 21, 2011 06:42 AM (0fzsA)

148 Anyone else see the clip of ABC's NBC's Ann Curry, White House rump swab?

I saw it yesterday and was pretty incredulous at the garbage she was spewing out.  NBC is quadrupling down on stoopid when it come to supporting the SCoaMF.  If he goes down in flames next November there will be on the air crying and wailing; and hopefully they'll all leave the country.

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 21, 2011 06:42 AM (7dMdC)

149

Working is for suckers....Don't drink the corporate water....You don't need to work you should be working to come to consensus about something....How does this new job promote change?

Posted by: Day of Rager at September 21, 2011 10:41 AM (pdRb1)

Also, hold the pizza. 

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 21, 2011 06:43 AM (B+qrE)

150 but we did not destroy the German people. We destroyed Tojo, but did not destroy Japan. I think we agree on most things. You may want to see what those two nukes did to Japan, It kinda took away their will to kill. And Germany? we killed an ass full of civillians and turned most major cities to rubble. Of course that was back when we knew how to fight a war.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at September 21, 2011 06:43 AM (ZDUD4)

151 Fixed myself a ham salad sandwich for lunch. Turned on Fox for a news update. Couldn't turn it off fast enough.

Puked up my sandwich.

Posted by: Vic at September 21, 2011 06:43 AM (M9Ie6)

152 Natter we much!

Posted by: Das SCOAMF at September 21, 2011 10:40 AM (RD7QR)

 

This will be hard to beat.

Posted by: garrett at September 21, 2011 06:43 AM (XbvIF)

153 Khan-coon?

Posted by: JackStraw at September 21, 2011 06:44 AM (TMB3S)

154
I got Ann Curry's, the rump swab, affiliation wrong???

Shit. Sorry, everyone. Disregard my entire post above.

In fact, disregard every single thing I ever said and will say.

Posted by: Soothsayer at September 21, 2011 06:44 AM (sqkOB)

155

For anyone else, it would be suborning perjury.  Fortunately for the SCOAMF administration that heÂ’s the first black president.  He gets a pass. 

And to say otherwise would be, you guessed it, RACIST!  So STFU!

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at September 21, 2011 06:44 AM (jx2j9)

156 This speech sounds like a cliche contest.

Posted by: franksalterego at September 21, 2011 06:45 AM (7/sDI)

157 156 Anyone else see the clip of ABC's NBC's Ann Curry, White House rump swab?

I saw it yesterday and was pretty incredulous at the garbage she was spewing out.  NBC is quadrupling down on stoopid when it come to supporting the SCoaMF.  If he goes down in flames next November there will be on the air crying and wailing; and hopefully they'll all leave the country.

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 21, 2011 10:42 AM (7dMdC)

You should have seen Mika Brzezinski on Morning Joe.  Other than being the daughter of a worthless old douchebag/lefty and wearing tight sweaters, what the hell does she offer at that table?  She makes Joe look almost conservative.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 21, 2011 06:46 AM (UOM48)

158
btw, because of after-hours trading sometimes it is possible for the official close of DJIA to be inaccurately recorded.

Posted by: Soothsayer at September 21, 2011 06:47 AM (sqkOB)

159 We are not stopping it because of the feckless cocksucker in the White House. We are in Libya for the same reason.

I'm sorry, I thought the genocide in the Sudan had been going on longer than 3 years.  Was I mistaken.

I'm not a fan of genocide (understatement), but I'm fine with "Get out or die" (as long as "get out" remains a true option).  It may not be nice, but given their stated desire to kill us all, I'm not sure "nice" applies here.

We destroyed Hitler, but we did not destroy the German people.

I'm sure the people of Dresden would be happy to know that.  From beyond the grave.  We didn't destroy "the German people" or "the Japanese people" because they were rational and could, therefore, be reasoned with and would negotiate in good faith (if only once they'd been roundly defeated).  The true tenets of the Muslim religion are antithetical to rationality and good-faith negotiation. 

So, where as with the Germans, Italians, and Japanese the question was not "them or us" but "what do we need to do to make you behave?"  the question with Muslims (or a great number of them, at least) really may be "them or us?"  If that's the question, the answer is simple.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at September 21, 2011 06:47 AM (8y9MW)

160 This speech sounds like a cliche contest.

Ain't that the truth!

Posted by: Mjim at September 21, 2011 06:47 AM (rN9Na)

161 Best part of Obumbles speech... He is done!

Posted by: Mjim at September 21, 2011 06:47 AM (rN9Na)

162 Any non-Muslim's living there should kindly stop living in the interests of world peace.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 21, 2011 10:42 AM (FkKjr)

Starting with the filthy Joos!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at September 21, 2011 06:48 AM (LH6ir)

163 This speech sounds like a cliche contest.

Posted by: franksalterego at September 21, 2011 10:45 AM (7/sDI)

Oh no.  That's not it at all.  It just seems like vacuous rhetoric to you because you're a hobbit tea partier, racist, homophobe, xenophobe, extremist.  To everyone else, especially SCOAMF himself, it's stirring oratory of the highest level.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at September 21, 2011 06:49 AM (jx2j9)

164 Western Civ has callously declared that the Middle East belongs to Muslims

I admit, I have occasional daydreams of the restoration of Byzantium.

Posted by: DarkLord© sez Obama is a stuttering clusterf--- of a miserable failure
Oh, and F--- Nevada!
at September 21, 2011 06:49 AM (GBXon)

165

So you're saying we should carry on as per normal?


DAY OF RAAAGE!


DaY oF RaGe!

day of rage!

RAAAAAGE!

Posted by: Soothsayer at September 21, 2011 06:49 AM (sqkOB)

166 To everyone else, especially SCOAMF himself, it's stirring oratory of the highest level.

Let me be clear... This is my finest hour.

Posted by: Obama at September 21, 2011 06:50 AM (rN9Na)

167 In fact, disregard every single thing I ever said and will say. Posted by: Soothsayer at September 21, 2011 10:44 AM (sqkOB) I started doing that months ago to avoid the holiday rush.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 21, 2011 06:50 AM (z/Mo8)

168 Look, why can't you ignorant hillbillies let me be clear for once?

Posted by: Barack Obama, Superior Life Form at September 21, 2011 06:51 AM (tqwMN)

169
I'm disappointed.

I was fully expecting, he'd lead us all in a few choruses of "We Are the World."


Posted by: franksalterego at September 21, 2011 06:52 AM (7/sDI)

170

I admit, I have occasional daydreams of the restoration of Byzantium.

Hittites!!!  Hittites!!!  Hittites!!!

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 21, 2011 06:52 AM (B+qrE)

171

69 MrObvious - should I have some implants done in Costa Rice to save money or is that too risky?

 

I don't know anything about the Costa Rican version of the FDA or their Dental/Medical licensing practice but as a rule of thumb I wouldn't have any dental or medical proceedure done by anyone NOT licensed to practice inside the United States.  I hate lawyers as much as anyone but Medicine/Dentistry are called 'practice" for a reason and outside the US you're trading away all your legal safeguards for benefits in pricing.

Posted by: MrObvious at September 21, 2011 06:52 AM (qwhLZ)

172
that idiot Obama keeps saying that Al Qaeda is in its last throes

probably not a wise idea; they might act to prove him wrong

Posted by: Soothsayer at September 21, 2011 06:52 AM (sqkOB)

173 Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at September 21, 2011 10:43 AM (ZDUD4)

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at September 21, 2011 10:47 AM (8y9MW)


Sudan is an intractable problem. Bush should have done something. Obama should do something. I will not defend the policies of my country in this instance.

As for Dresden? Fuck 'em. We didn't start that war, so I have no sympathy for the German people.

And Hiroshima, Nagasaki, etc? Fuck 'em twice. Same reason.

As I mentioned; unrestricted warfare will focus the minds of our enemies on things like surrender -- that's the whole point.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at September 21, 2011 06:53 AM (LH6ir)

174 Till edessa is free

Posted by: Jean at September 21, 2011 06:53 AM (/FT0A)

175 IÂ’m watching the Sopranos and not listening to that stuttering clusterfuck of a failure, but from the tidbits it seems like he is doubling down on a pali state ha

Posted by: nevergiveup at September 21, 2011 06:53 AM (aYQHH)

176 Let me be clear: Klaatu barada nikto!

Posted by: Das SCOAMF at September 21, 2011 06:53 AM (RD7QR)

177 As I mentioned; unrestricted warfare will focus the minds of our enemies on things like surrender -- that's the whole point. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at September 21, 2011 10:53 AM (LH6ir) Amen

Posted by: nevergiveup at September 21, 2011 06:54 AM (aYQHH)

178 NRO is reporting that Politico is reporting (got that?) that the new Perry ad was done by Lucas Baniano, formerly a TPaw staffer.

Posted by: Tami at September 21, 2011 06:54 AM (X6akg)

179 Richard Epstein's piece at hoover.org, above linked, is fine, however there is a much simpler answer to the smug libtard query at question. As one critic put it to me bluntly over coffee, "do you think that an increase in the marginal tax rate from 35 to 37 percent will change anyoneÂ’s behavior?"... "Professor Epstein," I was asked with cool disdain, "have you ever refused to do anything because of an increase in marginal tax rates?" Throwing this shit back in the libtard's face, the critic needs to get real. What happens to my behavior if instead of earning (for example) $100,000 per year and taking home $66,000, I take home $64,000? Do you see it? I have two thousand less to spend or save. You fucking libtard fascist. So that blue collar handyman won't get hired to fix my porch. Or the housepainters will have to wait until next year to get that job. Or that startup business on NASDAQ will lose an investment I was going to make. Or those precious organic retailers at the local farmers market will get no business from me because I will stick to big, cheaper chain supermarkets. Fucking libtards. Smug and blind is no way to go through life. So drink some steaming hemlock and get your hands out of our fucking pockets.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at September 21, 2011 06:55 AM (AZGON)

180 Fuck another monthly TV Test of the early warning system? So many lately. Someone know something I don't?

Posted by: nevergiveup at September 21, 2011 06:55 AM (aYQHH)

181 that idiot Obama keeps saying that Al Qaeda is in its last throes

probably not a wise idea; they might act to prove him wrong

Posted by: Soothsayer at September 21, 2011 10:52 AM (sqkOB)

The same fuckhead that said he wouldn't support the Surge after it was proven to be a success?  I'm not about to give anybody that dogmatically witless any degree of credibility.

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 21, 2011 06:55 AM (7dMdC)

182 MMMMMMMMM Cocoa Puffs.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at September 21, 2011 06:56 AM (ZDUD4)

183
As for Dresden? Fuck 'em. We didn't start that war, so I have no sympathy for the German people.

And Hiroshima, Nagasaki, etc? Fuck 'em twice. Same reason.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at September 21, 2011 10:53 AM (LH6ir)

Ok, now you're just confusing me. 


Posted by: Tami at September 21, 2011 06:56 AM (X6akg)

184 191 Fuck another monthly TV Test of the early warning system? So many lately. Someone know something I don't? Posted by: nevergiveup at September 21, 2011 10:55 AM (aYQHH) We just don't want you to be too shocked when the time comes.

Posted by: The Reptoids at September 21, 2011 06:56 AM (RD7QR)

185 We just don't want you to be too shocked when the time comes. Posted by: The Reptoids at September 21, 2011 10:56 AM (RD7QR) I'm locked and loaded

Posted by: nevergiveup at September 21, 2011 06:57 AM (aYQHH)

186 @142

Now we know why GM is called "Government Motors".  The Orwell super-chip, eh?

Posted by: Minnie Rodent at September 21, 2011 06:57 AM (S3rrR)

187

NRO is reporting that Politico is reporting (got that?) that the new Perry ad was done by Lucas Baniano, formerly a TPaw staffer.

So the story is....Perry uses ethnically-named staffers?

By November 2012, we're going to be faced with "Perry's left shoestring missing aglet at campaign stop--detail omitted from last year's Suskind book about Obama."

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 21, 2011 06:58 AM (B+qrE)

188 Ok, now you're just confusing me.

Yeah.  Me, too.

I guess he thinks that Muslims already living in Europe should be given a free pass, but that it's okay if we start annihilating cities in the ME?  Because the first would be "Genocide" and the other would be "Unrestricted Warfare?"

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at September 21, 2011 06:58 AM (8y9MW)

189 As I mentioned; unrestricted warfare will focus the minds of our enemies on things like surrender -- that's the whole point.

Agreed. How many of our military have we sacrificed to ROEs since Vietnam?

Posted by: The Robot Devil at September 21, 2011 06:59 AM (136wp)

190 Oh, and we're disappointed in the muslin comments in this thread. Clothist!!!!

Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at September 21, 2011 07:00 AM (AZGON)

191 Don't look at us. It's not as if we have hunks of junk hovering in the atmosphere, ready to crash through your roof at any minute. Posted by: NASA at September 21, 2011 10:59 AM (IhHdM) I got that covered. I painted a red cross on my roof!

Posted by: nevergiveup at September 21, 2011 07:01 AM (aYQHH)

192 By November 2012, we're going to be faced with "Perry's left shoestring missing aglet at campaign stop--detail omitted from last year's Suskind book about Obama."

No we won't.  Most people don't know what an "aglet" is (and now I have song stuck in my head, darn you) and so they'd have to look it up.  An educated electorate is the Liberals' worst nightmare.  They would never do anything that might encourage someone to actually pick up a book.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at September 21, 2011 07:01 AM (8y9MW)

193 Is it me or does the Doom Kitteh look like he's protecting his nuts/shielding her vag? Or should I be working instead of hanging around on this thread?

Posted by: The Reptoids at September 21, 2011 07:01 AM (RD7QR)

194 I got that covered. I painted a red cross on my roof! Better make that a red crescent.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at September 21, 2011 07:01 AM (AZGON)

195 199, I think CBD is facing the same confliction we all face when trying to fight a war against an enemy with no state. The line is so fine it's difficult to see.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at September 21, 2011 07:02 AM (ZDUD4)

196 @AllenG
@OldSailor's poet

I am a firm believer in a robust defense of our country and Western civilization. If the Muslim world wants an existential war, we should oblige them. If it takes bombing them into the stone age; we should do it.

But I draw the line at a very clear place; the systematic murder of Muslims simply because of who they are.(I also do not think that either of you support genocide.)


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at September 21, 2011 07:02 AM (LH6ir)

197 US president says Palestinians deserve a state of their own Yeah well I deserve 30 million dollars. what line do I get in?

Posted by: nevergiveup at September 21, 2011 07:02 AM (aYQHH)

198 I got that covered. I painted a red cross on my roof!

Posted by: nevergiveup at September 21, 2011 11:01 AM (aYQHH)


sure but do you have a green helmet handy?

Posted by: willow at September 21, 2011 07:02 AM (h+qn8)

199 Dammit, Reptoids don't work, the lazy-ass lizards.

Posted by: joncelli at September 21, 2011 07:02 AM (RD7QR)

200 Don't look at us. It's not as if we have hunks of junk hovering in the atmosphere, ready to crash through your roof at any minute.

Oh, and we're disappointed in the muslin comments in this thread. Apparently, we're not outreaching enough.

Posted by: NASA at September 21, 2011 10:59 AM (IhHdM)

 

 

Technically, that should look like this:   âçãëÿä t íà íàñ. íå åñëè ìû èìååì òîëñòûå êóñêè ñòàðüÿ çàêîëåáàòüñÿ â àòìîñôåðå, ãîòîâûé äëÿ òîãî ÷òîáû ðàçáèòü ÷åðåç âàøó êðûøó íà ëþáîé ìèíóòå. è ðàçî÷àðîâàííûé â ìóñëèíå êîììåíòèðóåò â ýòîé ðåçüáå. Ïî-âèäèìîìó. Âûâåøåíî ìèìî: NASA íà 21-îå ñåíòÿáðÿ 2011 10:59 AM (IhHdM)

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 21, 2011 07:03 AM (B+qrE)

201 Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at September 21, 2011 10:55 AM (AZGON)

Most of these assholes have probably never had to think about money the way most of us think about it, either because of a trust fund or because the ivory tower has insulated them (or, more likely, a combination of both).

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 21, 2011 07:03 AM (FkKjr)

202 We just don't want you to be too shocked when the time comes.

Posted by: The Reptoids at September 21, 2011 10:56 AM (RD7QR)

Dibs, punks.

Posted by: Zeta Reticulan Colonoscopy Crew at September 21, 2011 07:03 AM (GBXon)

203 MMMMMM Chocolate milk left over from Cocoa Puffs, SLURRRP!!

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at September 21, 2011 07:03 AM (ZDUD4)

204 The muzzies always drag it to "us or them" very quickly. So it had better be "them" and sooner rather than later.

Posted by: SurferDoc at September 21, 2011 07:03 AM (STdkO)

205

135 The sound of his voice sets my teeth on edge.

If you grind them down too much and need new 'sliver' amalgam alloys see MrObvious @ #65.

I don't do a lot of silverwork anymore but more importantly, if you're bruxing your teeth down, keep in mind that Gold is just comming off a top at $1900/oz. Over the last 30 years of practice 99% of my work in crown and bridge has been done with gold in the $350/oz range. IE: the materials are costing roughly 5 X for the lab work alone. In my city with 26% unemployment I've gotten a reputation for full mouth rehab on severe cases, but lately we're doing fillings and extractions because nobody can afford the crown and bridge.

Take care of what you got. Because until the economy gets better, replacing them isn't going to be cheap. Also, dentistry isn't covered in the Obamacare bill and propably never will be. When it comes to cost cutting, physicians routinely consider dentistry "optional" and one of the first items up for budget cuts.

Posted by: MrObvious at September 21, 2011 07:04 AM (qwhLZ)

206
Give Afghanistan to the Palestinians.

The fuck do i care.

Posted by: Soothsayer at September 21, 2011 07:04 AM (sqkOB)

207 I think CBD is facing the same confliction we all face when trying to fight a war against an enemy with no state. The line is so fine it's difficult to see.

That is probably it (fair warning, Morons- I'm in a bad mood after this morning's epic commute: I may be a bit sharper-of-tongue than usual), and I understand the problem.  I just also think his instant assumption that the original comment was urging Genocide was almost Godwinian in its presumption.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at September 21, 2011 07:04 AM (8y9MW)

208

Dammit, Reptoids don't work, the lazy-ass lizards.

All those heat lamps contribute to global warming and a sweaty, red-faced Al Gore.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 21, 2011 07:04 AM (B+qrE)

209 CharlieDildo you do know that Sudan just recently split into two Countries right? And that it was possible because of a number of actions initiated by the Bush administration right? But I do agree with the general scope of your comment.

Posted by: polynikes - Texan for Romney at September 21, 2011 07:05 AM (Z6fyp)

210

Ok, now you're just confusing me. 

Posted by: Tami at September 21, 2011 10:56 AM (X6akg)

Then my work here is done.



Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at September 21, 2011 07:05 AM (LH6ir)

211 She really believes her own press, our effeminate President. Pollutico: President Barack Obama borrowed a phrase from one of his harshest opponents last night, telling supporters at a New York fundraiser that “all that hopey changey stuff” from the 2008 campaign “was real.” The “hopey changey” term comes from a certain former Alaska governor and 2008-vintage Obama opponent. At a tea party convention in Nasvhille last year, Sarah Palin said she wanted to ask Obama’s supporters: “How’s that hopey changey thing working out for ya?” Obama’s belated response went like this, according to last night’s pool report from the Gotham Theater: “All that hopey changey stuff, as they say? That was real. It wasn’t something …it was real, you could feel it. You know it. It’s still there. Even in the midst of this hardship. But it’s hard. When I was in Grant Park that night, I warned everybody this was going to be hard, this wasn’t the end it was the beginning.”

Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at September 21, 2011 07:05 AM (AZGON)

212 I think that the next economic trick will be potential money.

I'll explain that to you: I have the potential to be a billionaire; thus I have a billion potential dollars. I simply trade some of my potential dollars for real dollars at the bank. The books stay balanced and everyone is happy - it solves the financial crisis since you are a potential billionaire also.

The physicists ought to back this economic scheme since they bit hook line and sinker on the idiotic idea of potential energy - hey it keeps the energy books balanced doesn't it? Do you expect economists to be smarter than physicists?

Potential energy came into being in the 19th century - physicists thought they had uncovered an important physical principal; that energy is a conserved quantity. Unfortunately it was pointed out that gravitational fields obviously didn't conserve energy. The physicists were about to correctly abandon their idea when an engineer came up with a way to preserve the delusion; potential energy. "You see it doesn't really exist, but we pretend that it does and then we can continue being deluded!" he explained - though not in those exact words of course; "We take this non existent nothing and say that it has the potential to become energy and voila" The physicists wanted to be right that they had discovered the key to the universe so ta da: potential energy came into being. The physicists evidently figured that not only does God make the same mathematical errors that they do, but that he is just as big a fool and just as gullible as they are.

So I will happily write any of you a check payable in potential dollars if you would be good enough to cash it for me. You can deposit those potential dollars in the bank, and your account will still have the same amount of money in it - only now it is split between real dollars and potential dollars. Everything is fine since I just demonstrated that potential dollars can be turned into real dollars.

 

Posted by: An Observation at September 21, 2011 07:06 AM (ylhEn)

213 Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at September 21, 2011 11:04 AM (8y9MW)

You call that sharp-tongued?

Bring it, bitch!

(said with humor)

What road was the culprit? The Cross-Bronx was a fucking nightmare this morning.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at September 21, 2011 07:07 AM (LH6ir)

214 When I was in Grant Park that night, I warned everybody this was going to be hard, this wasn’t the end it was the beginning.”

Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at September 21, 2011 11:05 AM (AZGON)


fgs we ARE doomed!

Posted by: willow at September 21, 2011 07:07 AM (h+qn8)

215 We need Paul Ryan a lot more in the White House than in Congress.  Ryan is your super-geeky cousin, to whom you went when you needed help with calculus or whatever, and whom you do actually like and trust, and so when bullies came for him, you protected him.  Now you really need his help and so you're thinking, cousin Paul, I was there for you, now you be here for us.

Posted by: SFGoth at September 21, 2011 07:07 AM (dZ756)

216 But I draw the line at a very clear place; the systematic murder of Muslims simply because of who they are

Yeah, my point- really- is that the simple willingness to kill Muslims- not "because of who they are" but because Muslims as a society represent an existential threat- is the first step that is required in assuring the ascendency of the truly Moderate (and, yes, they do exist- they're just really, really rare) Muslims.

And one of the things Europe may have to do to show that willingness is start mass deportations of Muslims- which will lead to killing them, because they won't stand for it.

Understand that: however noble your intent, if you truly wish to save the West from the insidious cancer that is Islam, you're going to have to kill a metric butt load of Muslims.  Many of those you wouldn't have to kill if you were willing to return to the old days of "swatting flies" as GW once said.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at September 21, 2011 07:09 AM (8y9MW)

217 Just to piss off the palis and the SCofMF ... I think we need some hot IDF chicks represented ... just sayin' is all ... Joooooooo babes rock

Posted by: Honey Badger ben Hur at September 21, 2011 07:09 AM (GvYeG)

218 The Cross-Bronx was a fucking nightmare this morning. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at September 21, 2011 11:07 AM (LH6ir) When isn't it?

Posted by: nevergiveup at September 21, 2011 07:11 AM (aYQHH)

219 I'm a bit of a nerd.  So I was reading the ancient Roman historian Livy this morning as he described the reasons for the death of the Roman Republic.  He said, paraphrasing, we can suffer neither our vices nor their remedies.  He is like a first century B.C. (or B.C.E. if you want to be politically correct and not invoke any thought of Jesus) Monty.  Monty has just simplified the concept to DOOM.

Posted by: WalrusRex at September 21, 2011 07:11 AM (Hx5uv)

220 Fed announces it will print even more money and call it something else again. Zimbabwe here we come.

There's the right way, the wrong way, and the Zimbabwe. WE, of course, are choosing the Zimbabwe.

Posted by: WalrusRex at September 21, 2011 07:13 AM (Hx5uv)

221 What road was the culprit? The Cross-Bronx was a fucking nightmare this morning.

TX 360, IH-20, TX 161 among others.

I forgot to take my daughter's bag into daycare when I dropped my kids off (we don't normally bring it home during the week- it's just got her extra clothes and a few things they need for her) this morning.  So I had to turn around and take it back.

In the time it took me to do that, there were something like 4 wrecks between me and work.  I normally get to work at 7:45.  It was after 9 this morning.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at September 21, 2011 07:14 AM (8y9MW)

222 There's the right way, the wrong way, and the Zimbabwe. WE, of course, are choosing the Zimbabwe. That's the witt AOS is known for, well done.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at September 21, 2011 07:14 AM (ZDUD4)

223 Fed announces it will print even more money and call it something else again. Zimbabwe here we come. There's the right way, the wrong way, and the Zimbabwe. WE, of course, are choosing the Zimbabwe. Posted by: WalrusRex at September 21, 2011 11:13 AM (Hx5uv) So then it's ok for me to continue to print that money in my basement also?

Posted by: nevergiveup at September 21, 2011 07:14 AM (aYQHH)

224 You down with  F-E-D ... yeah you know me!!!! Fo' shizzle!!!

Posted by: Honey Badger ben Hur at September 21, 2011 07:14 AM (GvYeG)

225 Ya I could tell that was TPaw's old ad people. Good snag Perry.

Posted by: tasker at September 21, 2011 07:15 AM (rJVPU)

226 Posted by: WalrusRex at September 21, 2011 11:11 AM (Hx5uv) A republic is a delicate thing, and people tend to forget this and start to handle it roughly. We've been kicking our republic around for about 80 years now and it's at the breaking point. Empire, fascism, chaos -- we're not immune to any of these.

Posted by: joncelli at September 21, 2011 07:15 AM (RD7QR)

227 Hey, Nat'l Science Foundation, give me $750,000 and I'll give you an interpretive dances that includes me dropping my drawers and farting in your faces.  And I'll hire an assistant so that's two jobs.

Posted by: WalrusRex at September 21, 2011 07:15 AM (Hx5uv)

228 Is it just me or have you noticed that every thumbnail picture of Romney and Perry on Hot Air's main page usually has them scowling or looking confused? Yet every picture of Palin looks flattering. Sometimes I hate that place as much as Politico. Especially "Jizz Shaw" who is a libtard posing as an "independent." Useless place half the time.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at September 21, 2011 07:16 AM (AZGON)

229 Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at September 21, 2011 11:09 AM (8y9MW)

Then you and I agree completely. I support a robust defense of our society, and if that means deportation on a huge scale, then I am comfortable with the idea. And I am not a fool; with deportation comes violence. But the difference between me and reactionary is that he thinks we should model our efforts on the Nazi's methods. The phrase "final solution" is not unclear.

Your point that we must change the Muslim world's perception of our willingness to kill them is profound. This is exactly what the West needs to do. And if and when that point is driven home is the day that the flow of Muslims into the West will reverse.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at September 21, 2011 07:19 AM (LH6ir)

230 Sometimes I hate that place as much as Politico. Especially "Jizz Shaw" who is a libtard posing as an "independent." Useless place half the time.

And worse the other half! HAWHAWHAW!

Posted by: Those Old Dude Muppets at September 21, 2011 07:19 AM (8y9MW)

Posted by: willow at September 21, 2011 07:20 AM (h+qn8)

232 Let me get this right: An increase of 2% in someone's taxes is no big deal, but a cut of .000001% in the federal budget is the end of the fucking world?

Posted by: Jimmuy at September 21, 2011 07:20 AM (BPC9C)

233 I think we're framing this wrong. we should say the Gvts greed hurts an america in need.
hey it works for the left!

Posted by: willow at September 21, 2011 07:22 AM (h+qn8)

234 248, OOO I like that. That will be our chant at the next Tea Party rally.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at September 21, 2011 07:23 AM (ZDUD4)

235 A car bombing in Detroit, here we go.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at September 21, 2011 07:26 AM (ZDUD4)

236 250 A car bombing in Detroit, here we go.

 Say what?

Posted by: The terrorist Hobbit formerly known as Donna at September 21, 2011 07:27 AM (5Wl/f)

237 Heh. Looks like Romneycare was the model for Obamacare after all. Mittens is sooooo fucked.

Posted by: joffen at September 21, 2011 07:27 AM (EPcuy)

238 A car bombing in Detroit, here we go.

Pfft, they're used to the new models not exactly...wait, that's not what you mean, is it?

Linky please, usual suspects got nothing yet.

Posted by: Zeta Reticulan Colonoscopy Crew at September 21, 2011 07:27 AM (GBXon)

239 ...aaaaand little grey bastards sock deported back to Zeta Reticulii.

Posted by: DarkLord© sez Obama is a stuttering clusterf--- of a miserable failure
Oh, and F--- Nevada!
at September 21, 2011 07:28 AM (GBXon)

240 251, Yep, it was just on Fox. The car looks like every car you've seen blown up on anystreet Beruit.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at September 21, 2011 07:28 AM (ZDUD4)

241 you're safer on land then water -- due to the planet being .6666667 water.

How's that for precision?

FIFY

Posted by: Pedantic Moron at September 21, 2011 07:29 AM (IzuWw)

242
and the peace process begins!

Posted by: Soothsayer at September 21, 2011 07:30 AM (sqkOB)

243 256, What's wrong with 2/3 ? Fractions get you down?

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at September 21, 2011 07:30 AM (ZDUD4)

244
as Karol said a few years ago:

quick, give these people a state!

Posted by: Soothsayer at September 21, 2011 07:31 AM (sqkOB)

245 “… the centerpiece of that program, the individual mandate, was something Obama had drawn up short of endorsing during the campaign, much to the ire of Hillary Clinton, who called him ‘all talk, no action’ on health care. Now, DeParle, in her memo, stressed that Obama should embrace a plan much like that in Massachusetts, driven by the teeth of a mandate, where individuals would be fined for not having health insurance." I'm sure Mitt will have a PowerPoint presentation that will make this just go away.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at September 21, 2011 07:31 AM (AZGON)

246 What's wrong with 2/3 ? Fractions get you down?

U MOD bro?

/yeah, I know

Posted by: DarkLord© sez Obama is a stuttering clusterf--- of a miserable failure
Oh, and F--- Nevada!
at September 21, 2011 07:32 AM (GBXon)

247 Well, shit. You guys keep it up. Now I have another interview for a real job with decent pay and full benefits. 

Posted by: mpurinTexas, Evil Conservanatrix, supports Rick Perry, bitch at September 21, 2011 07:34 AM (pY3GI)

248 Are the trust fund revolutionaries still raging on Wall Street?

Posted by: Waterhouse at September 21, 2011 07:34 AM (u83UF)

249 Well, shit. You guys keep it up. Now I have another interview for a real job with decent pay and full benefits. 

Posted by: mpurinTexas, Evil Conservanatrix, supports Rick Perry, bitch at September 21, 2011 11:34 AM (pY3GI)


Hey I heard you can sue the prospective employer if they don't give you the job...


Posted by: willow at September 21, 2011 07:35 AM (h+qn8)

250 Is it just me or have you noticed that every thumbnail picture of Romney and Perry on Hot Air's main page usually has them scowling or looking confused? Yet every picture of Palin looks flattering.

You're overweighting the pictures from the last two days. Those are trend-buckers.

Usually they have Romney smiling like he just spotted the pun on a Powerpoint slide and thinks he's the only one who gets it, Perry making an uncharacteristically Bush-y face (Texas dumb!), and Palin looking like a crosseyed cheerleader mom who accidentally took an Adderall instead of a Midol.

Posted by: oblig. at September 21, 2011 07:35 AM (xvZW9)

251 waterhouse, only if they bring them wagyu steaks , with a broccoli sesame side

Posted by: willow at September 21, 2011 07:36 AM (h+qn8)

252 trust fund revolutionaries

You mean the trustafarians?

Posted by: Piñon Farmer at September 21, 2011 07:37 AM (IzuWw)

253 @265 Ah. Well, my cynicism is showing. It can get pretty large.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at September 21, 2011 07:37 AM (AZGON)

254 267, Is weed part of their schtick too?

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at September 21, 2011 07:38 AM (ZDUD4)

255 http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2011/09/reality-check-1.html

Posted by: ace is a loser at September 21, 2011 07:38 AM (VPRy5)

256 @121 Good news for Gold and especially Silver prices.

Spot market doesn't seem to show it.

Posted by: jeanne at September 21, 2011 07:40 AM (GdalM)

257 269, I don't have any reason to doubt that it is.

Posted by: Piñon Farmer at September 21, 2011 07:40 AM (IzuWw)

258 Wow.  Rick Perry doesn't sound DOOMed at all. 

That'll throw a monkey in somebody's wrench.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at September 21, 2011 07:41 AM (jx2j9)

259 I think the explanation is simple enough: Obama gave the impression that the recovery was happening - and then it stalled. He's being held responsible for the stalling (even though Fukushima and the Euro implosion were hardly his fault). This is fair enough. What I hope is that voters focus on the future and what we can practically do. Yesterday, the IMF all but endorsed Obama's sensible embrace of stimulus-now and more debt-reduction later. But the GOP's total intransigence seems to be paying off politically. Andrew Sullivan Is this not one of the most stupid FKs to ever shit between two shoes.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at September 21, 2011 07:41 AM (ZDUD4)

260 Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at September 21, 2011 11:41 AM (ZDUD4)

That's pretty generous of you, sailor.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at September 21, 2011 07:44 AM (jx2j9)

261 Yesterday, the IMF all but endorsed Obama's sensible embrace of stimulus-now and more debt-reduction later.

lulz. Even ignoring the new definition of "sensible" as Einstein's definition of "insanity", debt reduction would require a surplus, which nothing Barky has napkin-sketched or bleated about comes even close to.

Posted by: Waterhouse at September 21, 2011 07:46 AM (u83UF)

262 I dont see any reason why tomorrow's debate won't be an ugly slugfest. Perry will hit Romney on MassCare and everyone will pile on Rick over immigration. Add to that the other candidate's desperation and you can guarantee a shameful spectacle. It'll get pretty ugly on here, too. Needless to say I can't fucking wait!

Posted by: joffen at September 21, 2011 07:47 AM (EPcuy)

263
what time is it?

Posted by: the monkey's ass at September 21, 2011 07:47 AM (sqkOB)

264 On every mention of Andrew Sullivan it needs to be said that he solicited unprotected sex knowing he was HIV positive, live with it bitch.

Posted by: polynikes - Texan for Romney at September 21, 2011 07:48 AM (Z6fyp)

265 what time is it?

Time for a new thread?

Posted by: DarkLord© sez Obama is a stuttering clusterf--- of a miserable failure
Oh, and F--- Nevada!
at September 21, 2011 07:48 AM (GBXon)

266 quelle heure est-il?

Posted by: high school French at September 21, 2011 07:49 AM (u83UF)

267

Dick rebukes GOP. (via Lucianne.com)

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at September 21, 2011 07:49 AM (jx2j9)

268 278, Half past a Monkeys ass a quarter to his balls.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at September 21, 2011 07:49 AM (ZDUD4)

269 Yesterday, the IMF all but endorsed Obama's sensible embrace of stimulus-now and more debt-reduction later

First of all, "all but endorsed" means that they didn't endorse it.  Second, who gives a rat's ass what the IMF cocksuckers say?  Finally, was that erg that linked Andi?

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 21, 2011 07:50 AM (7dMdC)

270 226 I have the potential to be a billionaire; thus I have a billion potential dollars. I simply trade some of my potential dollars for real dollars at the bank.
________

Um, isn't that called a "loan"?

Posted by: Anachronda at September 21, 2011 07:50 AM (xGZ+b)

271 Merck is a big deal out where I live. That's going to slam the housing market here.

Posted by: joncelli at September 21, 2011 07:50 AM (RD7QR)

272 277, Yep, the circular firing squad will be locked and loaded. The weapons will be on full auto tomarrow.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at September 21, 2011 07:51 AM (ZDUD4)

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at September 21, 2011 07:52 AM (jx2j9)

274 “I’m trying the Federal Government Diet. Since I was going to gain 10 pounds, if I only gain 8 I’m 2 pounds ahead and can reward myself with some cake.”

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at September 21, 2011 07:53 AM (e8kgV)

275 Having Dickless Durbin and Washmyhair-Scrutz in positions of responsibility with the commiecrats is like a gift to the nation; unfortunately there are a lot of retarded voters.

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 21, 2011 07:54 AM (7dMdC)

276 See, here is the thing about Sullivan and the rest of the leftist establishment. They do not admit any mistakes. Any. To them, everything that has gone wrong is either do to accidents or structural factors. Policy, particularly the policy of the Democratic Party, plays no role in the continuing malaise.

Posted by: ace is a loser at September 21, 2011 07:55 AM (VPRy5)

277 Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at September 21, 2011 11:41 AM (ZDUD4)

I think that the forest here is that Obama's socialist policies are suicidal, suicidal for the US, suicidal for Europe, suicidal for the Democrat Party, always suicidal all the time.

Posted by: WalrusRex at September 21, 2011 07:55 AM (Hx5uv)

278 @81 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at September 21, 2011 10:06 AM (LH6ir)

Yeah, I have to agree with you.  I thought that guy had been banned a while back. 

Posted by: Y-not at September 21, 2011 07:55 AM (5H6zj)

279 Fucking idiot John King asked the War Cock if he wrote his book because he knows he's going to kick the bucket any day now.

The fool....doesn't he know the Prince of Darkness will never die?

Posted by: beedubya at September 21, 2011 07:56 AM (AnTyA)

280 There's no such thing as a "European." You've got dozens of nationalities there. They're ALL fucking "foreign" to each other.

And yes, it does sound like "kill the muslims."

You don't need "hot-blooded genes" for deportation. Just a sense of self-preservation.
----
^This. 

Posted by: Y-not at September 21, 2011 07:57 AM (5H6zj)

281 The Merck layoffs are going to hurt.  I bet they were part of the 52%.  How is that hope and change working out for you now?

Posted by: mpfs, TPT at September 21, 2011 07:57 AM (iYbLN)

282 287: I hate that I have to miss it. I gotta be at work. I will be following on my breaks though. I'm sure people are getting their ammo ready as we speak.

Posted by: joffen at September 21, 2011 07:57 AM (EPcuy)

283 Lone Suitcase in Miami closes highway? Terrorist? Mabe, but more likely some old Jewish Guy who forgot where he put it.

Posted by: nevergiveup at September 21, 2011 07:58 AM (aYQHH)

284 A car bombing in Detroit

Those lithium batteries are dangerous.

Posted by: Bob Saget at September 21, 2011 07:58 AM (F/4zf)

285 Won't happen.  Western Civilization has become too sexually "sophisticated" to make lots of babies.

Utah. 

Posted by: Y-not flanked by a family of 13 and a family of 11, respectively at September 21, 2011 07:59 AM (5H6zj)

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at September 21, 2011 07:59 AM (jx2j9)

287 301 Make peace by utterly kicking their asses.

Posted by: Honey Badger ben Hur at September 21, 2011 08:00 AM (GvYeG)

288 298, You know, If I were a bomb squad guy and needed a little OT, I could just drop a suitcase here and there and bingo, My new boat is paid off.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at September 21, 2011 08:02 AM (ZDUD4)

289 Aerospace industry fantasizes about some replacements for current USAF aircraft.

Posted by: Waterhouse at September 21, 2011 08:03 AM (u83UF)

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at September 21, 2011 08:04 AM (jx2j9)

291 304, That last one looks amazingly like the SR-71.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at September 21, 2011 08:04 AM (ZDUD4)

292 That last one looks amazingly like the SR-71.

A BSG nerd in the comments there calls it a Colonial Viper.

Posted by: Waterhouse at September 21, 2011 08:06 AM (u83UF)

293 Posted by: Waterhouse at September 21, 2011 12:03 PM (u83UF)

Ooooh.  Northrup High Speed Bomber.  I have a feeling this erection is going to last more than four hours.  I'll call the Dr. just in case.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at September 21, 2011 08:06 AM (jx2j9)

294

I don't give a shit about anyone who voted for Barry losing their job. In fact, I applaud it.

Suck it up, bitch. You voted for these fuck nuts.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 21, 2011 08:07 AM (AF1jB)

295 the SR-71. Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at September 21, 2011 12:04 PM (ZDUD4) SR-71 BlackBird, maybe the best plane ever. Would have been shit canned by this President and this Administration

Posted by: nevergiveup at September 21, 2011 08:07 AM (aYQHH)

296 Wow.  That Rick Perry ad is amazing.  Whoever did it wasn't paid enough money for their work.

Posted by: mpfs, TPT at September 21, 2011 08:07 AM (iYbLN)

297 Gosh, seems those peaceful Palistinians are massing on the Israeli border. Prolly gonna sing songs and shit.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at September 21, 2011 08:08 AM (ZDUD4)

298 Posted by: Y-not flanked by a family of 13 and a family of 11, respectively at September 21, 2011 11:59 AM (5H6zj)

Catholic here...one of nine kids. Neighbors growing up.. families with kids of 11...12...13

Catholic neighbors now...9...10...and 12 kids. Latter family is amazing...two of them currently in med school..and 2 others getting PhD's

Posted by: beedubya at September 21, 2011 08:09 AM (AnTyA)

299 As I mentioned; unrestricted warfare will focus the minds of our enemies on things like surrender -- that's the whole point.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at September 21, 2011 10:53 AM (LH6ir)

But if I'm not mistaken, you were arguing the opposite when it comes to muslims.

Posted by: KG at September 21, 2011 08:12 AM (LD21B)

300 310, I saw it several times at Point Magu. Yep, it's quite the feat of engineering. Another product of that worthless space program.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at September 21, 2011 08:12 AM (ZDUD4)

301 277 I dont see any reason why tomorrow's debate won't be an ugly slugfest.

IIRC, this is the debate with the questions provided by "the public" (read: Democrat operatives).  I read an article about it a week or two ago and, based on the last time this format was used (CNN/Youtube debate in 200 , it was predicted to be a disaster. 

I'm not sure we'll learn much about anyone from this debate, but I'm a Perry cultist in some sort of major denial, apparently, so take that with a grain of salt. 

Posted by: Y-not at September 21, 2011 08:12 AM (5H6zj)

302 Rush is opening with Obumbles U.N. speech.

Posted by: Obama at September 21, 2011 08:13 AM (rN9Na)

303 "Peace is hard" SCOAMF

No shit , Sherlock.  What a f**king idiot.

Posted by: mpfs, TPT at September 21, 2011 08:14 AM (iYbLN)

304 I don't know if they're still taking submissions, but this is the link to submit a question for tomorrow night's debate. 

Posted by: Y-not at September 21, 2011 08:15 AM (5H6zj)

305 unlike my dick, Peace is Hard

Posted by: Will Folks, esq. at September 21, 2011 08:15 AM (UqKQV)

306 I submitted a question. Mine was, If China invades Taiwan, would you declare war on China?

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at September 21, 2011 08:15 AM (ZDUD4)

307

Artist conceptions are always great...but I believe we have built our last manned fighters and bombers.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 21, 2011 08:16 AM (B+qrE)

308 SR-71 BlackBird, maybe the best plane ever. Would have been shit canned by this President and this Administration

Hell, we couldn't *manufacture* the thing now if we wanted to.  Bet the War Cock was sorry he shitcanned it when 9/11 happened though.

Posted by: Ian S. at September 21, 2011 08:16 AM (tqwMN)

309

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at September 21, 2011 11:19 AM (LH6ir)

IMO we really won WWII AFTER that War, when we outlawed the Political/Religios systems of Naziism, and Shinto.  We FORCED them to enshrine in their founding documents our ideals of Religious Freedom, and Personal Rights...

Note, in both Afganistan, and Iraq, in THEIR Consitutions are statements that they will adhere to Sharia law...

WWII? Patton et al (as military Governor of Germany) did it right... today??? we're blowing it.

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 21, 2011 08:16 AM (NtXW4)

310 Anyone see the poll over at HotAir? A majority of Americans want to "tax the rich". A few thoughts come to mind. First, this will hurt Obama in the long run because it will encourage him to keep it up with the bullshit class warfare rhetoric. Second, I don't doubt for a second the veracity of this poll. Most people just do not understand how this will hurt the economy. Third, independents who are well-informed but still on the fence for Obama will soon tire of his class warfare rhetoric and be convinced that he is actively harming the country.

Posted by: Joffen at September 21, 2011 08:17 AM (EPcuy)

311 I bet SCOAMF thinks that the statement "Peace is hard" is an epic line.

Yeah, it's got nothing on "Peace through strength."  Because we all know that didn't work, right?

Posted by: mpfs, TPT at September 21, 2011 08:18 AM (iYbLN)

312 Never mind, CBD, saw your later comments.

Posted by: KG at September 21, 2011 08:19 AM (LD21B)

313 Romeo13, WE did good in Japan and Germany because they were advanced, civilized and,,,,,,,,um.......European and Asian societies,

The Marshall Plan was doomed in the M.E. and Africa

Posted by: SantaRosaStan at September 21, 2011 08:19 AM (UqKQV)

314 you can't re-build or reconstruct what was never there..........

Posted by: SantaRosaStan at September 21, 2011 08:20 AM (UqKQV)

315

you can't re-build or reconstruct what was never there..........

From the mouths of morons....

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 21, 2011 08:23 AM (B+qrE)

316 Love the Perry ad. Hope it's not a one time thing. Pound the zero theme into the ground. Make it stick.

Posted by: Amanda Jane at September 21, 2011 08:24 AM (x7+T/)

317
you can't re-build or reconstruct what was never there that which never was..........

(I'm so bored that I'm now editing comments)

Posted by: the monkey's ass at September 21, 2011 08:24 AM (sqkOB)

318 Won't happen.  Western Civilization has become too sexually "sophisticated" to make lots of babies.

Utah. 

Posted by: Y-not flanked by a family of 13 and a family of 11, respectively at September 21, 2011 11:59 AM (5H6zj)

Don't think the Utah demographics and mores are exactly the same as those of the rest of flyover country and especially not those of the really important people in LA, SF, and NYC.

Posted by: Hrothgar at September 21, 2011 08:25 AM (i3+c5)

319 How about "Peace through never-ending War!"

Tribal societies and Western civilization are incompatible.  Both work, but not together side by side.

Posted by: Hrothgar at September 21, 2011 08:27 AM (i3+c5)

320
I'm outta here and into the new!

Posted by: the monkey's ass at September 21, 2011 08:27 AM (sqkOB)

321 ©

Posted by: © Sponge at September 21, 2011 08:28 AM (UK9cE)

322

Posted by: SantaRosaStan at September 21, 2011 12:19 PM (UqKQV)

To this day, the Swastika is outlawed in Germany...

Doing the same to the Crescent Moon symbol of Islam may be the only thing which can save Western Civilisation.

You cannot allow a Political/Religious Belief system to flourish, which says YOU are the enemy, and must be destroyed... you MUST acknowledge that words have meanings, and that people will DIE for their beliefs... and so you must change that belief system.

So when we spend blood and treasure to take over a country, and put in a Government, we MUST also use that power to put in a Republic form of Government, with US Freedoms enshrined in its founding documents... otherwise we are wasting the lives of our people... and going bankrupt while NOT solving the problem.

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 21, 2011 08:28 AM (NtXW4)

323 @334
Obviously not, but I think it shows that a blanket statement about "Western Civilization" being unable or unwilling to save itself is incorrect.

There are institutions, including the Catholic church, that have stood the test of time and that are continuing to make inroads with people.  Europeans (western Euros) and Americans may be lost right now, but some of the core values that the Church (and other churches) have espoused for centuries are being embraced by people in Africa.  I remember during the last papal 'election' hearing a lot about conservative Catholics (bishops and cardinals) in Africa and how that seemed like it could be the future of the Church. 

So I guess I just wouldn't give up hope.  Things go in cycles and on the scale of civilizations, the past 30 or 40 years have been a tiny blip. 

Posted by: Y-not at September 21, 2011 08:30 AM (5H6zj)

324 300 Won't happen.  Western Civilization has become too sexually "sophisticated" to make lots of babies.

Utah. 

Posted by: Y-not flanked by a family of 13 and a family of 11, respectively at September 21, 2011 11:59 AM (5H6zj)

Try as they might, and they certainly are trying.....I don't think Utah can make up for all of Western civilization. 

Posted by: Tami at September 21, 2011 08:31 AM (X6akg)

325 330 you can't re-build or reconstruct what was never there..........

Posted by: SantaRosaStan at September 21, 2011 12:20 PM (UqKQV)

Nope, but we sure as hell gave it a good try!

Posted by: KG at September 21, 2011 08:32 AM (LD21B)

326 Won't happen.  Western Civilization has become too sexually "sophisticated" to make lots of babies. Luckily, my dick dropped out of college at the same time I did.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 21, 2011 08:35 AM (z/Mo8)

327 305

This wonÂ’t help with those genital warts at the White House.

 

Is it just me or does anyone else immediately envision "mussies" latching on to the Lightsquared technology to blind the GPS system integrated into those pesky smart bombs that keep falling from the sky? Are we not just broadcasting how to defeat our own military here???

Posted by: MrObvious at September 21, 2011 08:41 AM (2uovW)

328 Um, isn't that called a "loan"?

No, the difference is that loans have to be paid back, I'm simply trading potential money for real money. Its up to the bank to convert those potential dollars into real dollars if they want to. The bank examiners won't care - the bank starts with X dollars and winds up with X dollars. See, the law of conservation of dollars. Did you see the physics ruse explanation I did there?

Anybody want to cash this check I've written for one million potential dollars?
Please.

By the way, I've often wondered if the physicists would have swallowed the idea of potential energy if it had been called 'Magical Fairy Dust' instead. Try this on for size: "When you lift a weight up in a gravitational field you increase its Magical Fairy Dust - when you drop the weight its Magical Fairy Dust is converted into kinetic energy." Probably not huh - potential energy sounds so scientific - Magical Fairy Dust exposes the concept as the intellectual fraud and self deception it really is.

Posted by: An Observation at September 21, 2011 08:44 AM (ylhEn)

329 315 310, I saw it several times at Point Magu. Yep, it's quite the feat of engineering. Another product of that worthless space program.   Actually, unless I'm wrong, the SR-71 predated the earliest days of Kennedy's space program.

Posted by: MrObvious at September 21, 2011 08:44 AM (2uovW)

330 Actually, unless I'm wrong, the SR-71 predated the earliest days of Kennedy's space program.

It was a CIA/USAF program anyway, not NASA. I think NASA ended up flying a couple for research purposes.

Posted by: Waterhouse at September 21, 2011 08:59 AM (u83UF)

331 But Romney says Social Security isn't a Ponzi scheme and is a must have!  Who are you going to believe Thomas Sowell or Romney?

Posted by: Molon Labe at September 21, 2011 09:04 AM (S7K8x)

332 Natter we much!

Posted by: Das SCOAMF at September 21, 2011 10:40 AM (RD7QR)

This will be hard to beat.

It would be a great tshirt or bumper sticker.

Posted by: katya, the designated driver at September 21, 2011 09:28 AM (4rQH4)

333 The "SR-71" is a name for a lot of aircraft.

The A-12 was developed largely because that U-2 was shot down in 1960.  It operated throughout the 1960s, but SR-71 aircraft operated for many years afterward.

Much of the reason we don't use them now is because we use satellites. 

I guess I still wish we did because they are a symbol of exceptionalism.  But that's kinda silly.  B1-Bs fly very high at mach 3 and blow stuff up anywhere they want to.

Posted by: Dustin at September 21, 2011 09:29 AM (fF625)

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