1 Glenn Beck's favorite post at the blog!

2 what if you had to choose between political freedom and financial stability? You tricky trickster Monty, without political freedom there is no financial stability.

3

no DOOM on Thursday as well as Friday.

 

 

 

 

nooooo!  I was going to enjoy a little turkey, football, and DOOM at the same time!

4 the real doom is that even as the debt piles up, the deficits climb, and the left-wing policies are shown to once again fail, half the population in the US still thinks we can spend our way out :/

5 I haven't had any problem "retiring". But I didn't invest in the dot com BS. When it tanked some of my stock went down but it recovered.

I live off of dividends and a company cash balance pension. My biggest expense? taxes followed by medical.

6 Less DOOM per day, and no DOOM on Thursday as well as Friday.

That's fucking bullshit!

/kicks wall

7 hey and let's all stand and give good old Bronx Cheer to the "Super" committee. May they, and the stupid pricks that brought it into existence, rot in hell for eternity.

8

Posted by: nevergiveup at November 21, 2011 09:10 AM (i6RpT)

once I saw Murray, Durbin, and Kerry were in it, I knew the Dems weren't serious.

9 May they, and the stupid pricks that brought it into existence, rot in hell for eternity.

Yep, spend spend spend and debase the currency. Now that will screw up my retirement.

10 Yep, spend spend spend and debase the currency. Now that will screw up my retirement. Posted by: Vic at November 21, 2011 09:13 AM (YdQQY) You intend to retire?

11 Reacting to calls for cuts in entitlement programs, House Democrat Henry Waxman fumed oinked: “The Republicans want us to repeal the twentieth century.”

Fixed.

12 You intend to retire?

Posted by: nevergiveup at November 21, 2011 09:14 AM (i6RpT)

what is this "retire" you speak of?

13

“The Republicans want us to repeal the twentieth century.”

WRONG we want to repeal every horrible fiscal/entiltement policy since 1929, let's get back to the days of Harding-Coolidge

14 In 1900 the median death age was 45. Yep, that's 45. No NEED for a retirement plan back then.

15 time for super committee oversight, provided by a new committee...lessee, no let's call it a 'board'....no...

16 what is this "retire" you speak of? Posted by: AuthorLMendez's generation When They're In Their 80s at November 21, 2011 09:15 AM (yAor6) I thought "retire" is when they put you in a box, dress you up in your Sunday going to church clothes, get a bunch of people to say some lies about you, and then stick your rotting body in the ground?

17 nevergiveup at November 21, 2011 09:19 AM Well, good morning to you Sunshine.

18 You intend to retire?

Posted by: nevergiveup at November 21, 2011 09:14 AM (i6RpT)

I have been retired since 2005.

19 You intend to retire? Posted by: nevergiveup at November 21, 2011 09:14 AM (i6RpT) I have been retired since 2005. Posted by: Vic at November 21, 2011 09:21 AM (YdQQY) And your still eating and actually sleeping under a fixed roof?

20 Well, good morning to you Sunshine. Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at November 21, 2011 09:21 AM (ZDUD4) It's another gorgeous Navy morning

21 I got your retirement right here.

22 In 1900 the median death age was 45. Yep, that's 45. No NEED for a retirement plan back then. --- gotta refactor without infant mortality.

23 In 1900 the median death age was 45. Yep, that's 45. No NEED for a retirement plan back then.

Actually the average life expectancy has changed very little since the 30s when SS was enacted for people who make it to 65. What has changed is early childhood death which effects the averages but doesn't have that much impact on SS.

Life expectancy by age

24 I know I shouldn't be laughing at this headline, but what the hell....

http://yhoo.it/sPNsQ9

Even on a holiday week, Osama Obama is still a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure.

25 Half of one-third. Half of one-half. Boehner can reach only one lever on the control panel. If he won't pull, it then it may as well be half of jack-shit.

26 Half of one-third. Half of one-half. Boehner can reach only one lever on the control panel. If he won't pull it, then it may as well be half of jack-shit.

27 the first thing that I am thankful for this year is the doom.

28

The single biggest thing that raised the median death age from 45 was the development of chlorinated public water systems. Just in time for the industrialization of America. Vaccinations helped too. So the Democrat mantra that Republicans want 'dirty water' probably comes from an instinctual reaction to the R's wanting to limit/roll back entitlement programs....they think the R's are trying to kill them with bad water since the entitlement programs aren't sustainainable. They know this is true.

 

*insert pause here*

 

simply put, Dems are friggin insane. So rather than everybody getting half a loaf they want everybody to get NO loaf.

29 When the Obamas throw a good old fashioned hoedown at the White House, DOOM! takes a back seat.

30

(AFP) Australian officials were working Sunday to trace how a top-secret dossier containing detailed plans for US President Barack Obama's recent visit to Australia came to be found in a gutter.

The 125-page booklet, classified "In Confidence" and containing the phone numbers and contact details of senior personnel from Australia and the US, was found near parliament on Thursday by a Fairfax journalist.

In the gutter. How appropriate for Barry

31 It's everyone's fault, therefore it's no one's fault.

32 once I saw Murray, Durbin, and Kerry were in it, I knew the Dems weren't serious.

You needed that much?

33 You needed that much?

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at November 21, 2011 09:34 AM (GBXon)

*shrugs*

I'm an optimist

34 It's doomy and depressing but I honestly think only a minority of humans will choose freedom over stability.

It was very striking to me back in 2004 when I got to take a trip to St. Petersburg, Russia.

Here is a people that has only known monarchy or totalitarianism other than the last couple of decades are so. They really, really didn't seem to know what to do with the freedom and just reading the faces I got the vibe that most really wanted some big nanny state to tell them what to do.

I think those of us who want to be truly free and understand and accept the responsibility that comes with it make up perhaps 25% of the population at most.

35 From that Forbes article on entitlements they said:
 
If you were homeless in Chicago in 1933, for example, you could find shelter at one of the cityÂ’s 614 YMCAs, or one of its 89 Salvation Army barracks, or one of its 75 Goodwill Industries dormitories.
 
Just for fun, I went to the YMCA location finder for ChicagoLand; there are now 26 locations. That includes the suburbs; compare to the above stuff I bolded.
 
Gubmint has supplanted private charity. The ones still left generally get gubmint grants now, which was NOT the case back then in the Dark Ages of the early 1900s.
 
Very interesting.

36 Just for fun, I went to the YMCA location finder for ChicagoLand; there are now 26 locations. That includes the suburbs; compare to the above stuff I bolded.

Every YMCA I know of is really just a gym. There are no places to stay.

37

nooooo! I was going to enjoy a little turkey, football, and DOOM at the same time!

You forgot the glass of un-oaked chardonnay [preferably with bubbles].

 

38 On the pre-20th century nonsense spewed by whomever the dipshit congresswretch was, read Marvin Olasky's "The Tragedy of American Compassion".

We had plenty of compassion for people who could not help themselves before LBJ and plenty of chances for people who just needed a little help provided they were not just bums.

39

I think those of us who want to be truly free and understand and accept the responsibility that comes with it make up perhaps 25% of the population at most.

Within the USA [as it exists today], or worldwide?

Because worldwide, over the course of human history, I'd say that the number is no better than 2.5%, and maybe a lot more like 0.25%, or even 0.025%.

 

40 When I got dead, I didn't even need the charity of book sales!

41 Wow, botht he spam and Ace are up early on a monday

42 And the wind cries bankrupt.

Simply Brilliant, Monty !!  Brilliant.

Now I have some pleasant Hendrix in my head.

43

Regarding retirement, the main impediment is the piss poor standard of living of the rest of the world.  Per capita productivity is the highest it has ever been in the history of the man.  If it weren't for the 3rd worlders draggind down wages for the working class some measure of retirement would still be a pretty viable option for thrifty individuals with jobs.  It's not like we don't produce enough stuff.  It's the people who are willing to work for some rice and beans while living in a mud hut who are insuring that the rest of us have to work until we die.

As for those of us blessed with a good income, it's still possible.  But you do have to put off today's gratification for tomorrow's security, and you have to be willing to live modestly.  My personal target is to buy enough income streams (mostly dividends) to make it out of the conventional work force somewhere between age 50 and 52.  For me that seems like a vital target, since young people assume anyone over 50 doesn't understand anything invented since the iron age.  Once you hit that magic number your employer will do all it can to kick you to the curb. 

44

Because worldwide, over the course of human history, I'd say that the number is no better than 2.5%, and maybe a lot more like 0.25%, or even 0.025%.

Posted by: Sasha -N- Malia at November 21, 2011 10:07 AM (Bjf6P)

 

Indeed.  Now, how to convince more people of this truth?  Because we need to accept that fact that universal suffrage is a bad thing, and so is trying to convince a pack of savages who are comfortable with feudalism that it's in their interest to live in a democratic republic.  If democracy is to spread, let it spread naturally.  If an enemy we defeat in war likes to live under the heel of a dictator, then give them a dictator we can live with. 

But, it's a losing cause.  We in the West are plagued with hordes of idealistic do-gooders.  They're a bigger threat than any external enemy. 

 

45 Before AmericaÂ’s entitlement state, free individuals planned for and coped with tough times, taking responsibility for their own lives.

And many starved to death, a fact of life in America's history. Children were abandoned as slaves in the "foster care" of those with means in need of free servants. Hence Charity for the indigent, widows and orphans.

Food stamps are the 21st Century electronic American soup kitchen lines. Yes, every program is abused by opportunists. So attack corruption IN WASHINGTON at the source.

Btw, in '08, Mitt told voters that our manufacturing industry was gone forever, never to return, that those jobs are never coming back, and for workers to prepare for "good" jobs (never stipulating the "good" job description/title). This year, it's painfully apparent that unless America revitalizes our own manufacturing industry stateside, whether it's the Dollar, the general economy or national security via reliable Military war machine, our nation is lost. So now Mitt wants to buy the worker vote with a promised tax break on his inflating Dollar balloon. But then, those earning up to $250K are the "good" jobs. Mitt will be subsidizing middle management contracting global corporatism produced by foreign countries, certainly not the productive working blue-collar lower-middle class manufacturing American journeymen and artisans.

Any civilization that loses respect for its own products is lost to whatever it buys. Germanic nations and Asian never forfeited their own identities as willingly as those Americans entering the 21st Century.  Our too-big-to-fail welcome-mat mentality of willingly being walked on has surpassed the level of being abused. We are no longer allowed to be the American melting pot, as our own president and bipartisan leadership stratify our population into political target groups. It is fallacious now to presume that the American individualism ideal isn't already sold out by the usurping globalism motto pirating E Pluribus Unum. Any nation/tribe that doesn't stand up for its own identity has no such identity.

Observe that the US Constitution increasingly is designated as "radical" meaning subversive. That's the American melting-pot voter wake up call. Our Constitution is the only thing effectively binding America together. Authoritarianism is pirating that bond.

46 ItÂ’s an interesting question: choose between political freedom and financial stability.  Protecting your personal financial assets over your liberty. The Weimar Republic isn't the only initially successful regime that fell to corporatism and the promotion of global warfare.

47 History shows a frightening parallel to the way our education is going everywhere in the world today. It is the decline of the world’s most creative, most advance, and most exciting civilization, that of China in the fourteenth and fifteenth centuries. Until then, China had led the world in the arts and the sciences, in medicine and in mathematics, in technology and in statecraft. The reaction against independent thinking and artistic creativity that followed the invasion of the Mongols in the thirteenth century imposed the Confucian system of purely literary and purely imitative “liberal education” to the exclusion of everything else. Within a century China had become sterile and had lost her capacity to do anything new, to imagine anything new, to perceive anything new. We are, I am afraid, on the same road–and we have traveled very far along it.

48 Still think Ann Barnhardt and Gerald Celente are just "two crazies"?:

"BREAKING

MF Global trustee: $1.2 billion missing"

49 "The trustee believes that even if he recovers everything that is at U.S. depositories, the apparent shortfall in what MF Global management should have segregated at U.S. depositories may be as much as $1.2 billion or more,"

"Oh Jeez: MF Global Trustee Says Customer Shortfall May Be Even Worse Than Feared"
"MF Global trustee: $1.2 billion missing"

"If you have money in Greek banks, get it out now. If it's a small amount put it under the mattress. If it's a large amount, I am not sure where to tell you to put given pressure on Switzerland and illegal requests from the EU."

50 And many starved to death, a fact of life in America's history.

What horseshit. Starvation on a large scale has never been a problem in the United States (or even during Colonial times except for the very earliest settlements). If you except criminal neglect or contributing disease factors, America has never been a victim of famine on any significant scale.

I realize that the teaching of American History is terribly debased these days, but honestly, this is just ridiculous.

51 "JohnnyFlimFlam on Nov 21, 11:45 AM said: I guess johnny boy is too big to jail."

52 #55

Further, our modern food production capacity is immense compared to the Depression era, even though we were one of the leaders then. Take away stupid policies that artificially inflate food prices and the likelihood of anyone starving without government assistance is small indeed.

A critical difference, though, is that private charity can require the beneficiary to meet some needed behavioral requirement. Like not being a junkie. If someone is so defective they would favor being a crackhead over regular meals, let them. You cannot save everybody. Attempting to do so only wastes resources better applied to those who could someday contribute if given the chance.

53 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

54 You really make it seem so uderstandable with your presentation but I find this topic before really hard to understand. It seems too complicated and very broad for me.

55 That is useful information and its quite easy to come a croper if you are not vigilant.

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57 Wow this is soo helpful I have been trying to figure this out on my own for a long time now. Hopefully making this change will help encourage discussion on my blog.

58 There is the possibility that big cuts to the bloated military budget are part of the plan, for which neither GOP or Democrat want to be blamed, and the predictable failure of the committee will cause the military to begin the process of living under a sensible and very reduced budget. Our budget, compared to all the other countries in the world is enormous, and the waste is out of control. This is where the first cuts should come.

or am I nuts to think this?

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