May 25, 2011
— Ace I have to point out most economists do not predict this. They predict small growth and lingering pain, but not a further retraction.
Yid with Lid sees it differently. And he thinks the "straw that broke the camel's back" is that commodity whose prices Obama used to be all in favor of escalation -- oil.
And if this is true?
Well it means at least another two years of deep recession and grinding unemployment. It also means the likelihood of Obama's reelection drops somewhere below 30%.
Via Melissa Tweets.
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Posted by: shibumi at May 25, 2011 12:31 PM (OKZrE)
Posted by: Dave at May 25, 2011 12:31 PM (Xm1aB)
Posted by: Dave at May 25, 2011 12:32 PM (Xm1aB)
Posted by: Max Power at May 25, 2011 12:33 PM (q177U)
it's mean of me to say this, but um i'm kinda cheering on a double dip...
Posted by: YRM at May 25, 2011 12:34 PM (UzBwz)
Posted by: Max Power at May 25, 2011 12:34 PM (q177U)
If the economy is clearly in a recession when 2012 rolls around, I'm not sure there's any amount of media ass-kissing that can prop Obama up.
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at May 25, 2011 12:35 PM (UvFnc)
Posted by: YRM at May 25, 2011 12:35 PM (UzBwz)
Posted by: joejm65 at May 25, 2011 12:35 PM (BDB5n)
Posted by: Dominique Strauss-Kahn at May 25, 2011 12:36 PM (QKKT0)
Perry / Bolton. It just rolls off the tongue.
Apologies for the interruption. You are now free to return to your regularly scheduled doom.
Posted by: Blacksheep at May 25, 2011 12:37 PM (KRoB6)
Posted by: joejm65 at May 25, 2011 12:37 PM (BDB5n)
Posted by: Cheri at May 25, 2011 12:37 PM (oiNtH)
Posted by: King Barry I "Piehole" at May 25, 2011 12:37 PM (QKKT0)
Posted by: Blue Hen at May 25, 2011 12:37 PM (Gzv/o)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at May 25, 2011 12:37 PM (tf9Ne)
Plus the fact that we're giving metric tons of wheat to Egypt, and George Soros is the second biggest owner of grain silos, and hedge funds are hot on farm land because they think we're in for a famine. Meanwhile, back ain Merry Olde...
We are not amused. British press pans Petey's speech and teleprompter.
Posted by: RushBabe at May 25, 2011 12:37 PM (Ew27I)
2% annual GDP growth does not keep up with the growth in job-seekers.
Double-dip? I'm gonna call this a "bathtub-shaped" recession:
sharp drop, long, flat bottom, and maybe a sharp increase in GDP at some point on the horizon.
Posted by: Truman North at May 25, 2011 12:38 PM (G5JPI)
Most economists are mostly always wrong.
The Housing market is getting worse. No one is hiring. And prices are rising.
These are not the indications of 'growth.'
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 25, 2011 12:38 PM (uFokq)
Posted by: joejm65 at May 25, 2011 12:38 PM (BDB5n)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at May 25, 2011 12:38 PM (NtTkA)
Posted by: rdbrewer at May 25, 2011 12:38 PM (6L9U5)
Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at May 25, 2011 12:39 PM (48wze)
Why not? There is no organic growth in the markets right now. Take away the trillions of monetary and fiscal liquidity and we are basically left with nothing. This is basically how we have been getting out and in every recession and depression since the Federal Reserve began operating. If anyone here wants to understand the Austrian Business Cycle easily, I suggest the book Meltdown. It's very good.
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at May 25, 2011 12:39 PM (u8JAM)
Posted by: GnuBreed at May 25, 2011 12:39 PM (ENKCw)
Posted by: joejm65 at May 25, 2011 04:37 PM (BDB5n)
I wasn't alive at the time (born in 1989); but I went back and looked at the 76-80 news years and found the media promoted Carter as an outsider who was going to shake up Washington, by 1980 they were trying to help him but it was hard to. But yes Obama is probably loved more by the media then Carter is.
Posted by: YRM at May 25, 2011 12:39 PM (UzBwz)
So you're saying it would be...unexpected?
Posted by: AmishDude at May 25, 2011 12:39 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Donald Trump at May 25, 2011 12:40 PM (G5JPI)
Posted by: Charles Gibson at May 25, 2011 12:40 PM (Xm1aB)
It just sort of shape-shifted a bit but is still here, bitches !!111!!!
Welcome to Obamaville
Posted by: SantaRosaStan, only occasionally wrong at May 25, 2011 12:40 PM (UqKQV)
Oh, boy...fetch me another martini. And this time move your ass.
Posted by: The Political Class at May 25, 2011 12:41 PM (AnTyA)
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at May 25, 2011 12:41 PM (u8JAM)
Obama seems to actually dislike us, though, and that really makes his special brand of incompetence insufferable.
Posted by: Blacksheep at May 25, 2011 12:41 PM (KRoB6)
Posted by: moviegique at May 25, 2011 12:41 PM (kNN2d)
Posted by: Donald Trump at May 25, 2011 04:40 PM (G5JPI)
Copycat.
Posted by: Ross Perot at May 25, 2011 12:41 PM (T0NGe)
I wasn't alive at the time (born in 1989)
2011-1989 = 22?
I may have a position for you at the IMF. Working directly beneath me, of course.
Posted by: DSK at May 25, 2011 12:41 PM (G5JPI)
Posted by: blue star at May 25, 2011 12:42 PM (LkWf0)
Posted by: Double dip recession at May 25, 2011 12:42 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 25, 2011 12:42 PM (UlUS4)
Posted by: Totally Hawt Honey Badger ben DOOM! at May 25, 2011 12:43 PM (GvYeG)
RushBabe @ 23.....
Could it be that Europeans are finally realizing that they too will not be receiving unicorns/skittles?
Posted by: Cheri at May 25, 2011 12:43 PM (oiNtH)
This cunt foisted that asshole on us and she should go to hell for it.
Reid was the guy who got him to oficially run when everyone told him to wait some time
Posted by: YRM at May 25, 2011 12:43 PM (UzBwz)
This cunt foisted that asshole on us and she should go to hell for it.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 25, 2011 04:42 PM (UlUS4)
Her farewell tour was longer than Clinton's on inauguration day 2001.
Posted by: AmishDude at May 25, 2011 12:43 PM (T0NGe)
President Obama will figure out a way to get those gas prices down, and that will shut up the lot of you.
Reminds me of that trip the President made to Texas last month where "Dave in Texas" was grousing about how Obama wasn't doing anything to help with the Texas wildfires, where's our disaster area federal funds, blah, blah, blah...
...and then when Obama actually did do something to help with the wild fires, Dave just sort of shut up about that subject without really admitting he was wrong.
Posted by: Lord of the rings lover at May 25, 2011 12:44 PM (irk3g)
Posted by: Palerider at May 25, 2011 12:44 PM (dkExz)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 25, 2011 12:45 PM (1Jaio)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at May 25, 2011 12:45 PM (NtTkA)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 25, 2011 12:46 PM (UlUS4)
Posted by: Cricket at May 25, 2011 12:46 PM (bViNN)
Posted by: blue star at May 25, 2011 04:42 PM (LkWf0)
Permanent Open Market Operations. With a pomo, Bernanke buys the US Treasury debt and pumps liquidity into the system. The idea is that the money freed-up from holding US Government bonds will be put into use in boosting the spending and thereby the economy. This is why stocks have been going up recently but that does not mean its good.
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at May 25, 2011 12:46 PM (u8JAM)
President Obama will figure out a way to get those gas prices down, and that will shut up the lot of you.
Posted by: Lord of the rings lover at May 25, 2011 04:44 PM (irk3g)
Right after he shuts down Gitmo.
Posted by: Cicero at May 25, 2011 12:47 PM (QKKT0)
Most of you remember 1983. THIS feels nothing like 1983.
The economy was hot hot hot in 1983; unionism was on the run; and our national pride was at an all time high.
America, fuckyeah!
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 25, 2011 12:47 PM (uFokq)
Posted by: that guy that always thinks we're boned now thinks Super Boned. at May 25, 2011 12:47 PM (GTbGH)
Posted by: Bob Krick at May 25, 2011 12:47 PM (48wze)
Posted by: joejm65 at May 25, 2011 12:47 PM (BDB5n)
Posted by: Roman Polanski at May 25, 2011 04:44 PM (T0NGe)
That hash is rightfully mine! Do you know who I am?!?!?!?
Posted by: Dominique Strauss-Kahn at May 25, 2011 12:47 PM (c45xH)
This comment just popped up on the missing baby story: The mother says that the baby was OK after the storm and a police officer loaded him in the back of his car.
Posted by: RushBabe at May 25, 2011 12:47 PM (Ew27I)
Posted by: The Rapture at May 25, 2011 12:47 PM (VndSC)
Posted by: ParisParamus at May 25, 2011 12:47 PM (9hZ11)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 25, 2011 12:48 PM (UlUS4)
Anyone who doesn't, raise your hands! If you can't remember 1993, jump up and down.
Posted by: Roman Polanski at May 25, 2011 12:48 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: X at May 25, 2011 12:48 PM (mr695)
Posted by: Charles Gibson at May 25, 2011 12:49 PM (Xm1aB)
Posted by: ParisParamus at May 25, 2011 04:47 PM (9hZ11)
Fat Bottomed Girls?
Posted by: Zombie Freddy Mercury at May 25, 2011 12:49 PM (T0NGe)
I will pay $10 Gallon and suffer a double dip recession to get rid of this piece of "Pig Shit" we have pretending to be POTUS..........
Unfortunately, you don't realize exactly how correct you are.
Posted by: Roy at May 25, 2011 12:49 PM (VndSC)
Maybe if oil prices stay elevated for six months or a year, but it doesn't look like that will be the case.
The housing market is kind of already built into the current mess, and the problem is still concentrated in certain areas.
The Republicans have to stop hoping for the economy to bail them out and get in front of the issue.
Why are we having the weakest recovery in the last 50 years? Why did we have to suffer through historically high levels of unemployment so that a bloated stimulus and inefficient health care bill could be passed? When do we get a President who cares more about jobs and the economy than building new programs in Washington?
Posted by: Paper at May 25, 2011 12:49 PM (VoSja)
...and then when Obama actually did do something to help with the wild fires, Dave just sort of shut up about that subject without really admitting he was wrong.
Posted by: Lord of the rings lover
So Dildo Baggins is praising the works of the Won? What was so wonderful? Did he react quicker than Booooooosh did during Katrina? Did he stop the rampant cannabalism, like Boooosh failed to stop during Katrina? Do you resent peasants criticizing the Dear Leader, which the Dear Leader loved to do to Boooosh?
Posted by: Blue Hen at May 25, 2011 12:49 PM (Gzv/o)
Gas is dropping hard, but it's a sign of economic weakness, not strength. Growth means demand. Demand is down.
Posted by: nickless at May 25, 2011 12:50 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Charles Gibson at May 25, 2011 04:49 PM (Xm1aB)
I thought you hadn't heard of her.
Posted by: Auto-meme detector at May 25, 2011 12:50 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: JackStraw at May 25, 2011 12:51 PM (TMB3S)
I remember when knucklehead Ace loved double dip recessions when his hero Bush was in the White House.
Posted by: Eggmcmuffin, retard liar at May 25, 2011 12:51 PM (uFokq)
Posted by: Bill D. Cat at May 25, 2011 12:52 PM (npr0X)
Sorry to be a noob, but -- POMO? What's that?
Permanent Open Market Operations. I'm a noob too. But the basic concept is the Fed and the treasury are pulling a Bernie Madof.
from zero hedge:
"In a brilliant piece of investigative reporting, Chris Martenson has uncovered that the Fed, merely a week after issuing $28 billion in 7 year bonds via its puppet, the US Treasury, of which $10 billion ended up being purchased by primary dealers, has turned and bought 47% of the primary allocated bonds in Open Market Purchases. This is undisputed monetization removed simply via one primary dealer and less than 5 days of temporal separation in order to leave no easy trace."
Posted by: Max Power at May 25, 2011 12:52 PM (q177U)
Posted by: Dave at May 25, 2011 12:52 PM (Xm1aB)
No, because you have to have a recovery first. We have been flat lining for three years now.
Don't believe any number released by this set of lying shit-weasels in power.
Posted by: Vic at May 25, 2011 12:52 PM (M9Ie6)
We must follow Prsadent Obama's lead and stop using dirty oil for our cars. Electric and solar powered cars are the way to go. Once again Presadent obama shows vision while the Republi-Losers just snipe.!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at May 25, 2011 04:39 PM (48wze)
Oh, yes - the way to go about 10 miles, then you get out and hitch a ride back home. Go back to mainlining tutti-frutti B&J, you dimwit.
Posted by: No Whining (formerly ya2daup) at May 25, 2011 12:52 PM (HmCnI)
I'm willing to bet that most economists interviewed are Keynesians and believe in the magic of 'Stimulus'..
You'll only wish it was a dead cat bounce..
Posted by: Dave C at May 25, 2011 12:53 PM (YPLGQ)
This comment just popped up on the missing baby story: The mother says that the baby was OK after the storm and a police officer loaded him in the back of his car.
Thank you! I have been in tears ever since reading this story. At least there is one happy ending. But so many more missing.
I can't help but picture if GWB was still POTUS - he and Laura would be there comforting the walking wounded with their sleeves rolled up and love for their fellow Americans in their eyes.
Posted by: Cheri at May 25, 2011 12:54 PM (oiNtH)
Posted by: fluffy at May 25, 2011 12:54 PM (SwkdU)
Posted by: dudeinsantacruz at May 25, 2011 12:54 PM (YF7j+)
yep, 22 and right leaning
Surely you mean 12. I remember how old I was in 1989 and I "know" how old I am now and the math isn't working out.
Posted by: Dumb_Blonde at May 25, 2011 12:54 PM (bwS7Z)
Maybe if oil prices stay elevated for six months or a year, but it doesn't look like that will be the case.
The housing market is kind of already built into the current mess, and the problem is still concentrated in certain areas
The only reason oil is going down now is that the dollar is going up. The only reason the dollar is going up is because Europe is getting ready for a huge meltdown again. If that happens we are in recession again.
If housing doesn't recover we will be in recession again, it's 20% of our economy and only performing now at around 7%.
I don't want to plan on a recession but unless things change we are going to have one.
Posted by: robtr at May 25, 2011 12:54 PM (MtwBb)
Posted by: t-bird at May 25, 2011 12:55 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Delta Kappa Epsilon at May 25, 2011 12:55 PM (le5qc)
That was an excellent read. Thanks.
I've always thought Obama was really weak in 2012 given the debt, unemployment, gas prices, etc. BUT keep in mind, there's now about 1/2 the people in the country recieving some sort of money from the government. That extra $5 Trillion we wasted in the last 3 years went to someone, and heavens knows we don't have anything tangible to show for it.
As to Oprah, I personally don't hate her, don't wish her ill will, but find it ironic that someone who has truly experienced the great American dream lobbied for President a man who helped make that same dream so incredibly more difficult for any American in the years ahead. Bitch.
Posted by: Stateless Canadian Infidel at May 25, 2011 12:55 PM (GKQDR)
Posted by: shibumi at May 25, 2011 04:31 PM (OKZrE)
Per the Ohio Farm Bureau: Worst planting season in 60 years.
Posted by: ErikW at May 25, 2011 12:55 PM (zXYtA)
Posted by: nickless at May 25, 2011 04:50 PM (MMC8r)
Where do you live? It's $3.95 here in SE PA. According to Drudge, oil went over $100 again
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at May 25, 2011 12:56 PM (u8JAM)
Posted by: polynikes-Romney supporter at May 25, 2011 12:56 PM (T8iAI)
You guys need to stop wishcasting and just accept Obama will win re-election, we need to get the Senate and protect the House, Paul Ryan's plan was overreaching by the Republicans. But I'm on you guys side, seriously, I am.
Posted by: Greg, Conservative Warrior at May 25, 2011 12:56 PM (UzBwz)
Funny. In Spanish, the word "mercado" is of the masculine gender.
Posted by: AmishDude at May 25, 2011 12:56 PM (T0NGe)
Teh Won might indeed run on a platform of giving benefits to everyone all the time. And you've got to admit that people want hand outs, not "austerity."
So as long as he's promising the moon to the peons, we're looking at 4 more years.
As long as Uncle Sugar can print money, the Democrats are in good shape.
Posted by: shibumi at May 25, 2011 12:57 PM (OKZrE)
I pray one day their megaphone, as they're yelling into it, explodes into self-inflicting shrapnel and pain. But mostly pain.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at May 25, 2011 12:57 PM (DAEhL)
Posted by: RushBabe at May 25, 2011 12:57 PM (Ew27I)
President Obama will figure out a way to get those gas prices down, and that will shut up the lot of you.
Hey Dildo Baggins, if you paid as much attention to the musings of your Dear Leader as we, you'd know that he suggested at one point that rising prices were not only to the good, but essential to his plans for us lucky people to be forced to drive cars fueled by crappy ethanol, or electricity of which we have no surplus generating capacity.
Meanwhile, he rides in vehicles called the beast. Married one too.
Posted by: Blue Hen at May 25, 2011 12:57 PM (Gzv/o)
Posted by: Bob Saget talking shit about Total at May 25, 2011 12:57 PM (F/4zf)
Posted by: Dave at May 25, 2011 12:57 PM (Xm1aB)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 25, 2011 12:58 PM (UlUS4)
As to Oprah, I personally don't hate her, don't wish her ill will, but find it ironic that someone who has truly experienced the great American dream lobbied for President a man who helped make that same dream so incredibly more difficult for any American in the years ahead. Bitch.
Posted by: Stateless Canadian Infidel at May 25, 2011 04:55 PM (GKQDR)
It's a common phenomenon.
"I've got mine."
Posted by: AmishDude at May 25, 2011 12:58 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Morpheus at May 25, 2011 12:58 PM (IwHwZ)
Where do you live? It's $3.95 here in SE PA. According to Drudge, oil went over $100 again
We peaked at $4.09, today it's $3.59, same station. A friend is reporting stations in the area as low as the $3.20s (CostCo).
Posted by: nickless at May 25, 2011 12:58 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: chemjeff at May 25, 2011 12:58 PM (tKAyd)
Posted by: japan's lost decade II at May 25, 2011 12:59 PM (GTbGH)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at May 25, 2011 01:00 PM (NtTkA)
Posted by: Comrade Arthur at May 25, 2011 01:00 PM (KE+Ya)
Posted by: maddogg at May 25, 2011 01:01 PM (OlN4e)
Carter won in 1976 because he wasn't a Nixonite.
The media of the day wasn't all that fond of Carter, they made fun of him and his family incessantly for being southern WT.
This time is very different.
Posted by: Boots at May 25, 2011 01:01 PM (neKzn)
If you factor out all Barry's deficit spending, there won't be a double-dip. Because the first dip never ended.
Posted by: Andy at May 25, 2011 01:02 PM (5Rurq)
Preach it, Brother!
Posted by: Glenn Beck at May 25, 2011 01:03 PM (Ew27I)
Please do it Rick!
Posted by: Dave at May 25, 2011 04:57 PM (Xm1aB)
I think there was a thread here a little bit ago about it
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at May 25, 2011 01:03 PM (u8JAM)
Now I'm not saying Obama is favored to win - just that his odds are better than you'd think when you compare him with Bush 41 or Carter.
THIS, anyone else would have Dubya 2nd term approvals right now
that said, 2nd terms do tend to be the harshest for a President, meaning if you thought the 1st term was harsh, you ain't seen nothing yet boy!
Posted by: YRM at May 25, 2011 01:04 PM (UzBwz)
Posted by: nickless at May 25, 2011 04:50 PM (MMC8r)
I agree. No matter what happens in the ME or with moratoriums, the price of oil is still governed by supply and demand (and I'm not forgetting the value of the dollar) on the open market. When people stop driving because the price of gas is too high, the supply rises and prices drop and vica versa.
My fear is that the so-called Overton Window has been moved to the point where people will start getting ecstatic over $3 gas. If we had a sound and practical energy policy, we shouldn't be paying more than $1.50/gal.
Posted by: Soona at May 25, 2011 01:04 PM (/orNl)
The first thing my kollidge economics professors says is, "All of the world's economists, laid end to end, wouldn't reach a conclusion."
True. I wonder where all the economists are that know and understand how our free market system is supposed to work are. I haven't heard one step up to the mic and give a dissertation on why we're in this mess. To me, it's as plain as the boobs on Christina Hendrick's wonderfully ample chest. We've reached the tipping point where government intervention in the marketplace is dragging out economy down faster and faster.
Shit I could do it, and I'm a Moron. I'm starting to think that we here at the HQ know more about economics than all the idiots in Washington combined.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at May 25, 2011 01:05 PM (d0Tfm)
Posted by: Glenn Beck at May 25, 2011 05:03 PM (Ew27I)
and meanwhile, this half hour of the Glenn Beck show is sponsored by Snickers
*promo of something awesome for Beck to announce w/in the next 2 months plays w/ hype music and narrator talking about enlightment*
Posted by: YRM at May 25, 2011 01:05 PM (UzBwz)
our nation's economic future is teetering between recovery and depression; I feel it can go either way.
how do you reckon our economy can boom again when we have the most anti-business, anti-profit administration in our nation's history?
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 25, 2011 01:06 PM (uFokq)
Any canucks in the house?
Posted by: Newsweek at May 25, 2011 04:56 PM (uFokq)
Technically, I'm a canuck but I only have national pride in my country from the 1960's backwards. They forever lost me when we started having Human Rights Tribunals and I'm working on fleeing.
But, yeah, technically, you have one here. Why?
Posted by: Stateless Canadian Infidel at May 25, 2011 01:06 PM (GKQDR)
Meanwhile, he rides in vehicles called the beast. Married one too.
Blue Hen
Did you see the picture of him with the Queen & Prince Phillip in front of the palace with Michelle when the wind was blowing? Holy Christ - she's scary! I have honestly never seen a first lady look so bad....and yes I have seen pictures of Eleanor Roosevelt.
Posted by: Cheri at May 25, 2011 01:06 PM (oiNtH)
Posted by: Bob Saget talking shit about Total at May 25, 2011 01:06 PM (F/4zf)
Posted by: Glenn Beck at May 25, 2011 01:06 PM (BBlzg)
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at May 25, 2011 01:07 PM (CLYmB)
Posted by: Comrade Ghost of Hayek at May 25, 2011 01:07 PM (KE+Ya)
Where do you live? It's $3.95 here in SE PA. According to Drudge, oil went over $100 again
I'm here in So Cal. I have to fill up everyday during the work week (240 mile commute). Since January, I've literally been watching the prices change daily. It got as high as $4.55 (premium) a couple of weeks ago and yesterday I paid $4.22. Wonder what today's gonna bring?
Yesterday, I saw the price and for a brief second thought 'wow ... it's down to $4.22' followed quickly by 'fuck that ... it's $4.22'. I worry that a mild easing of the pain is going to make people forget what a fucking mess this is.
Posted by: Dumb_Blonde at May 25, 2011 01:07 PM (hbVjI)
Nice! Preznint Orotund Banalities
Posted by: No Whining (formerly ya2daup) at May 25, 2011 01:09 PM (HmCnI)
ethanol is clearly the way out of this mess.
Posted by: Warden at May 25, 2011 05:08 PM (sZ7XD)
Shure as *hic* hell ish.
Posted by: stuiec at May 25, 2011 01:09 PM (Di3Im)
a little concerned here,
Obama's at 53% on Gallup, so Gallup has a History of being wrong and oversamples Dems, fine. Good point.
but Rasmussen has him at 50%, wtf gives? is the Osama bounce still in effect?
Posted by: YRM at May 25, 2011 01:10 PM (UzBwz)
That would be what we call "situation normal". Has the writer never heard Obama speak?
Posted by: Waterhouse at May 25, 2011 01:10 PM (jPPat)
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 25, 2011 05:07 PM (uFokq)
I haven't seen King but ShowTime has "Endgame" which is about an agora-phobic Russian chess champion that solves crimes. That's my current favourite show.
(if that was to me. If not, sorry...)
Posted by: Stateless Canadian Infidel at May 25, 2011 01:10 PM (GKQDR)
ethanol is clearly the way out of this mess.
Posted by: Warden at May 25, 2011 05:08 PM (sZ7XD)
I'm sorry, I was on the shitter. What's happening now?
Posted by: Bob Schieffer at May 25, 2011 01:10 PM (zXYtA)
Obama giving a speech looks & sounds like an animatronic from the Hall of Presidents. Look to the left, gesture with hand, look to the right, nod head emphatically, look to the...............there's no there there.
Compare to Netanyahu, he can electrify the room and he's not even ours.
Posted by: Boots at May 25, 2011 01:12 PM (neKzn)
Posted by: Stateless Canadian Infidel at May 25, 2011 01:13 PM (GKQDR)
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at May 25, 2011 05:07 PM (CLYmB)
M80s, you've been hanging around a bunch of bad influences.
Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at May 25, 2011 01:13 PM (FYCiJ)
"Well it means at least another two years of deep recession and grinding unemployment."
What? I thought that was Presidents Day, when JEF steps out side and sees his shadow.
(Lifted from "Jimmytheclaw" at Blogmocracy"
Posted by: Arbalest at May 25, 2011 01:14 PM (xTRDv)
Posted by: Totally Hawt Honey Badger ben DOOM! at May 25, 2011 01:14 PM (GvYeG)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet
*snort*
Posted by: RushBabe at May 25, 2011 01:14 PM (Ew27I)
Bingo. Can't and won't. Obama can read as many teleprompter speeches he wants. The czars, appointees, and rogue actors will still do the damage while Obama gets shined by the MBM as the patina he was designed to be.
Only those who pay-to-play will find the waters treadable. All else will drown. Eventually, everyone will.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at May 25, 2011 01:16 PM (DAEhL)
Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at May 25, 2011 01:17 PM (R8y66)
Posted by: Totally Hawt Honey Badger ben DOOM! at May 25, 2011 01:17 PM (GvYeG)
Posted by: Lord of the rings lover at May 25, 2011 04:44 PM (irk3g)
Does Soros really have to outsource his trollblogging operation offshore? I'll wager he didn't choose to base it in Britain proper: probably looked for lower-wage Commonwealth countries like India or Kenya.
Posted by: stuiec at May 25, 2011 01:18 PM (Di3Im)
Posted by: MarkC at May 25, 2011 01:19 PM (yPPVC)
Compare to Netanyahu, he can electrify the room and he's not even ours.
Posted by: Boots at May 25, 2011 05:12 PM (neKzn)
You're wrong. He is one of us. Why do you think we celebrated his smack-down of Petey threatening a free nation?
Posted by: Soona at May 25, 2011 01:19 PM (/orNl)
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at May 25, 2011 05:07 PM (CLYmB)
M80s, you've been hanging around a bunch of bad influences.
Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at May 25, 2011 05:13 PM (FYCiJ)
Can we adopt WDJ as Reid's official designation, like JEF for Obama?
Posted by: stuiec at May 25, 2011 01:19 PM (Di3Im)
Posted by: Totally Hawt Honey Badger ben DOOM! at May 25, 2011 05:14 PM (GvYeG)
All threads are the hot IDF chick threads.
Posted by: stuiec at May 25, 2011 01:20 PM (Di3Im)
Posted by: De' Debil Hisself at May 25, 2011 01:22 PM (H+LJc)
Posted by: Chuckit at May 25, 2011 01:23 PM (qBXjd)
When we elect Sarah Palin.
Posted by: VADM (Red) Cuthbert Collingwood RN at May 25, 2011 01:23 PM (asCHi)
Hmm. How can I put this in terms that even a liberal troll can understand:
Barky is even stupider than George Bush. Does that work?
Posted by: Fritz at May 25, 2011 01:24 PM (AN8d5)
158
but Rasmussen has him at 50%, wtf gives? is the Osama bounce still in effect?
Ras also over samples dems
Posted by: ABBO at May 25, 2011 01:26 PM (vko30)
"It also means the likelihood of Obama's reelection drops somewhere below 30%." Don't bet your next unemployment check on that. I haven't seen a reliable poll yet with his approval rating much below 50.
Posted by: VADM (Red) Cuthbert Collingwood RN at May 25, 2011 01:27 PM (asCHi)
Posted by: Totally Hawt Honey Badger ben DOOM! at May 25, 2011 01:31 PM (GvYeG)
When we elect Sarah Palin.
FIRE IN THE HOLE...!
Posted by: AoSHQ's DarkLord©, diving for cover at May 25, 2011 01:34 PM (GBXon)
Meanwhile, he rides in vehicles called the beast. Married one too.
Posted by: Blue Hen at May 25, 2011 04:57 PM (Gzv/o)
I'm still cracking up!
Posted by: SomeWhereSouthWest at May 25, 2011 01:38 PM (CyPWX)
Posted by: ParisParamus at May 25, 2011 01:48 PM (tUIG0)
Posted by: "Choo-choo" Biden at May 25, 2011 01:52 PM (FcR7P)
And there you have it. If there is a double dip, how will we know? You think CNN and her panty-throwing sisters will tell the tale? Who trusts any of the economic numbers published by our government?
Who you gonna believe, Obama the Magnificent or that lying sewer called Faux News?
Posted by: Full Moon at May 25, 2011 01:56 PM (m75CK)
Posted by: Bugler at May 25, 2011 01:58 PM (VXBR1)
Posted by: sTevo at May 25, 2011 01:59 PM (RD/KP)
Hmm.
Posted by: Jeannie at May 25, 2011 02:05 PM (GdalM)
Posted by: naturalfake at May 25, 2011 02:19 PM (I49Jm)
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at May 25, 2011 05:07 PM (CLYmB)
That actually startled the crap out of me.
Posted by: ontherocks at May 25, 2011 02:20 PM (HBqDo)
Believe Yid with Lid,
I have a small business. I was recently offered an easy opportunity to expand. Unfortunately the person offering me the opportunity had no idea of the direct cost in hiring and the legal liability in hiring a new employee - especially for a micro-business like mine (Micro Business <$2M in annual Rev).
Bottom line, I lose 50 cents of every dollar for the new employee and incur significant legal liability in hiring an employee. Add to the that the regulatory uncertainty from both my federal government and Democrat controlled local government - I cannot make enough money on the added employee to offset all the risk and intangible effort in hiring an employee. For those who don't recognize this, for a micro-business, employees for better or worse become extended family members...
Given this itÂ’s highly unlikely the unemployment rate will drop. Who is going to hire under these circumstances?
No one – case closed
Posted by: NVA Patriot at May 25, 2011 02:55 PM (C5Apf)
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