February 03, 2011

Egypt Updates
— DrewM

The new Prime Minister apologizes for yesterday's outbreak of violence.

The army, which stood by yesterday during the clashes, has moved in to keep the pro and anti-government forces separated.

There are reports that several former minsters have had their assets frozen and are under a travel ban.

The new Vice President says Mubarak's son will not run to replace his father in the September elections.

The Egyptian government is hunting down journalists.

The curfew is back in force, at least in name and the crowds are still in Tahrir Square. Al Jezzera English has a live stream running.

Oh and George Soros would like you to know that the Muslim Brotherhood are the good guys helping to bring democracy to Egypt while the main obstacle is...wait for it....Israel.

Related: Algeria has canceled it's 19 year long "State of Emergency". Gee, I wonder what changed?

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1 Soros, El-Baradei, and the Muslim Brotherhood. Hum, what could possibly go wrong?

Posted by: nevergiveup at February 03, 2011 06:14 AM (0GFWk)

2 Always use his full Title:  Nazi Collaborator and convicted felon George Soros.

Posted by: AoSHQ stylebook at February 03, 2011 06:14 AM (GTbGH)

3 I have to ask forgiveness for harboring a strong wish that Soros would go and meet his maker soon.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 03, 2011 06:16 AM (jFKdv)

4 At some point is a 3rd eye going open on Soros' forehead?

Posted by: Jean at February 03, 2011 06:17 AM (WkuV6)

5 At some point is a 3rd eye going open on Soros' forehead? Posted by: Jean at February 03, 2011 10:17 AM (WkuV6) Is there room with the 666 that is embedded there?

Posted by: nevergiveup at February 03, 2011 06:18 AM (0GFWk)

6 I'd like one of those Egyptian journalist hunting licenses.

Q: Are there bag limits?

Posted by: Purple Avenger at February 03, 2011 06:20 AM (Nc8Za)

7

From what I have been reading, it looks like Hosni Mubarak's son was transforming Egypt from a Centralized economy to a more liberal free market economy.  He was also challenging the military for control of the nation. The main political party was just a tool of the military filled with ex military men but Mubarak's son was turning it into a real political party separate from the military.

So, it looks like the Egyptian people hated the wrong Mubarak.

It's funny how history works that way. It's happened before, when Princip killed Franz Ferdinand.  Ferdinand was next in line to the Hapburg monarchy and would have succeeded Franz Joseph. However, Ferdinand had a much more liberal idea for the Austro-Hungarian Empire. He wanted to give more autonomy to the lesser "states" within the monarchy and create something more like the United States than a tradional monarch with vassel states. So Princip shot the wrong Habsburg.

It looks like Egypt is condemned to Centralized dictatorial control for the foreseeable future. The protestors cannot win. Eas day that passes, the weaker they become. No one is coming to back them. No us, not Europe, no one. I give it another week before the protests stop and the police really start to crack down.

 

Posted by: Ben at February 03, 2011 06:20 AM (wuv1c)

8 Oh and George Soros would like you to know that the Muslim Brotherhood are the good guys helping to bring democracy to Egypt while the main obstacle is...wait for it....Israel.

Is there no evil that this SOB will not do? I swear if I was dictator for a day this sorry SOB would have his citizenship stripped and he would be deported to the sorriest hell hole I could find.

Posted by: Vic at February 03, 2011 06:21 AM (M9Ie6)

9 The "hunting down journalists" has a nice ring to it. Does that mean real journalists or the pretend kind we have?

Posted by: dagny at February 03, 2011 06:21 AM (ZuJDg)

10 It looks like Egypt is condemned to Centralized dictatorial control for the foreseeable future.

Meh...  The last 5,000 years of recorded history in Egypt has been pretty much the same.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at February 03, 2011 06:22 AM (Nc8Za)

11 Elbaradei seems like an opportunistic hack to me.  He waits until the revolution starts, then comes to Egypt to pretend he is "one of the people."

Posted by: JP at February 03, 2011 06:22 AM (8s9tr)

12 Anyone read Roger Simon today? Sandmonkey (Libertarian blogger in Egypt that I assume some of you are familiar with from PJM) is adamant that the only thing that can salvage the situation is a bold and forceful declaration by Obama.

Posted by: Lincolntf at February 03, 2011 06:22 AM (hUf/c)

13 The other rhetorical question is why the MFM/MBM keeps giving him a platform?

Posted by: Vic at February 03, 2011 06:22 AM (M9Ie6)

14

The new Prime Minister apologizes for yesterday's outbreak of violence.

Yes, I am sorry the people got their friggin heads bashed in.

Posted by: Ahmed Shafiq at February 03, 2011 06:23 AM (pr+up)

15

Also, Drew, the Algerians declared that state of emergency because the militant Islamist party won the first round of voting in 1991.

The military declared the emergeny to prevent an islamist takeover. So while we normally thing military interfereing in democracy is a bad thing, in some places like Algeria and Turkey, it can be a good thing.

The military also then banned all politically parties based on religion and the nation went into a civil war. Thankfully the Algerian government and military won.

Posted by: Ben at February 03, 2011 06:23 AM (wuv1c)

16 When you know whose side Soros is on then you know what side Obama is on.

Posted by: dagny at February 03, 2011 06:23 AM (ZuJDg)

17 CNBC got Erin Burnett out of Cairo.  She may be in Saudi Arabia.  She interviewed Tom Barrack of Colony Capital, saying he was a billionaire.  He had that shaved bald head which I'm beginning to wonder about.  Anyway, he said there "has to be a redistribution of wealth".  Beck should look into this guy as she seemed annoyed and asked him "but what about the US" and he sort of flippantly said "they are crawling out".  

Posted by: curious at February 03, 2011 06:24 AM (p302b)

18

Fuck Soros. 

One of the best things you can do for yourself (health) and everyone else for that matter (again health) is buy food that is labeled No GMO.  That piece of shit is now heavily invested in Monsanto which if you dig deep enough will start to sound like a plot right out of a James Bond movie complete with an old creepy mega rich villain.

Posted by: Roadking at February 03, 2011 06:24 AM (3kYoP)

19 <i> he would be deported to the sorriest hell hole I could find </I>  I think the Malaysians have a deep hole full of roaches waiting for him.

Posted by: Jean at February 03, 2011 06:24 AM (WkuV6)

20 god i need to take my time and review my spelling before i hit post

Posted by: Ben at February 03, 2011 06:25 AM (wuv1c)

21 a bold and forceful declaration by Obama

"This alleged violence has to ummm, errrr, ahhh maybe..., no...probably, stop."

Posted by: Purple Avenger at February 03, 2011 06:25 AM (Nc8Za)

22 El Baradai needs to get out now - he picked the wrong horse.

Posted by: Jean at February 03, 2011 06:27 AM (WkuV6)

23 ok.......so an suv went into the river in oklahoma....and the rescue is breaking news? i hope everyone involved is alright but honestly....

Posted by: phoenixgirl at February 03, 2011 06:28 AM (eOXTH)

24 1 Soros, El-Baradei, and the Muslim Brotherhood. Hum, what could possibly go wrong?

Absolutely nothing.  This is completely under control.  Nothing to worry about.  Time to move along.   There will free and fair elections within days.  Women will have equal rights by the end of the year. 

We can go ahead and let Murbarak and son come live in LA  -  for humanitarian reasons, of course. 

Did I mention that this was all caused by the vicious climate of hate created by Sarah Palin.  Good thing we have Barack Hussein and the Muslim Brotherhood to calm the fears of the rabble  long suffering Egyptian people.  laureate

Posted by: Paul R. Krugman Nobel Laureate in Blood Libel at February 03, 2011 06:28 AM (YZ0iV)

25 Turning Jews in to the Nazis worked at well for Soros and he keeps repeating the process. Someone posted yesteday that MuBarack paid the Podesta Group to lobby the US. Soros and Podesta are a tight little unit.

Posted by: dagny at February 03, 2011 06:28 AM (ZuJDg)

26 after watching the Erin Burnett interview with Tom Barrack I thought he was not American, I was shocked to find out that he was born in America.

Posted by: curious at February 03, 2011 06:30 AM (p302b)

27 Don't bash Algeria. In the 90s muslim fanatics were sawing off the heads of people of entire towns, including those of children. I had no idea what the hell was going on since the concept of murdering people, including children, in the name of religion, was so fucking foreign to me. So, Algeria lowered the boom because they had to. A number of these butchers fled to Iraq where they were protected by Saddam.

Posted by: moi at February 03, 2011 06:30 AM (Ez4Ql)

28 Why is that wretched piece of filth still breathing my air?  Aren't the French looking for him?  Maybe they can take a page out of the Russians' "radioactive materials hand book" and share with the slimy old pus pocket.

Posted by: Katy Beth at February 03, 2011 06:31 AM (MS9hn)

29 wow the nobel laureate/UN theme is strong here?

Posted by: curious at February 03, 2011 06:32 AM (p302b)

30 Satan will personally escort the Nazi collaborator Soros into Hitler's little grotto of the 7th level of Hell. I will have a drink to that vermin's demise.

Posted by: maddogg at February 03, 2011 06:33 AM (OlN4e)

31 I asked a couple deployed friends of mine (one is in Iraq, one is in the Sinai, where we have a small peacekeeping force to enforce the treaty between Egypt and Israel) if this was affecting them. The one in Iraq said there was a sympathy demonstration in his area (he didn't mention anything about it getting violent or the Americans needing to intervene), and the one in Sinai said it wasn't affecting them except for mail deliveries and leave.

Posted by: Jeff in PA at February 03, 2011 06:33 AM (45WVs)

32

The Egyptian government is hunting down journalists.

One can only hope that they're not practicing "catch and release".

Posted by: ya2daup at February 03, 2011 06:33 AM (yRrAd)

33 Don't worry folks, France is taking the lead.

Posted by: dagny at February 03, 2011 06:33 AM (ZuJDg)

34 the only thing that can salvage the situation is a bold and forceful declaration by Obama.

Huh. Remember the last decade, when "the stupid imperialist chimperor-in-chief's meddling in other countries' affairs" was cited as a root cause of Middle Eastern/Islamic terrorism?

Posted by: HeatherRadish at February 03, 2011 06:33 AM (TUpD9)

35

The Egyptian government is hunting down journalists.

Anderson Cooper is hiding where they will least expect him, at a Turkish Bath House.

Posted by: Ben at February 03, 2011 06:34 AM (wuv1c)

36 As a committed advocate of democracy and open society

I do wonder how an infamous Nazi collaborator and currency manipulator can write those words and not instantly burst into flames.

Posted by: Waterhouse at February 03, 2011 06:34 AM (3YYhR)

37 http://goo.gl/k5PzC This is just a description of a few of the massacres by the islmonuts in Algeria. Truly horrible people.

Posted by: moi at February 03, 2011 06:34 AM (Ez4Ql)

38 The Middle East -- the cradle abattoir of civilization.

Posted by: GnuBreed at February 03, 2011 06:35 AM (h0RtZ)

39

hehe - the just showed a protester wearing a soup pot on his head as a helmet.

Posted by: Annabelle at February 03, 2011 06:37 AM (4kxCX)

40 The world would be a fresher, cleaner, brighter place if George Soros was to get captured by his heroes and get his rotten and evil head sawed off.

Posted by: maddogg at February 03, 2011 06:39 AM (OlN4e)

41 39
hehe - the just showed a protester wearing a soup pot on his head as a helmet.
Posted by: Annabelle at February 03, 2011 10:37 AM (4kxCX)

No soup for Jooooos!

Posted by: ya2daup at February 03, 2011 06:39 AM (yRrAd)

42

Corn futures in a steep price increase... about to hit $7 a bushel...

This is FAR from over folks, UNLESS yesterdays crackdown really restores order.

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 03, 2011 06:41 AM (AdK6a)

43 We have Lebanese friends that are really worried and Australian friends just starting to assess the damage from Yasi,in addition to everything else going on worldwide,  and my fruit trees here south of Houston are turning into popsicles - I'm starting to think Somebody is kinda antichristi somewhere!

Posted by: Katy Beth at February 03, 2011 06:42 AM (MS9hn)

44 To all you East Coast lefty liberal Jews who supported Obama along with his goons including Soros.....Ya dig tasting their ass today?  Do you understand this administration's support of the Muslim Brotherhood, a terrorist organization with the goal of wiping Israel off the face of the map?  This will be 100 times worst than Carter's Iran clusterfuck. 

Posted by: Sparky at February 03, 2011 06:42 AM (MNYI+)

45 41 39
hehe - the just showed a protester wearing a soup pot on his head as a helmet.
Posted by: Annabelle at February 03, 2011 10:37 AM (4kxCX)

No soup for Jooooos!

Posted by: ya2daup at February 03, 2011 10:39 AM (yRrAd)

Never underestimate the power of Cooking Utensils...

Richard the Lionheart was killed by a crossbow bolt, shot by a very young man who had been using a Frying Pan, as a sheild...

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 03, 2011 06:43 AM (AdK6a)

46 What's the going rate for a journalist pelt these days? 

Can't be much because most of them are horribly malnourished due to the constant and steady diet of Obama's manjuice.

Posted by: Fritz at February 03, 2011 06:44 AM (GwPRU)

47 George Soros is pure evil.  There is no other explanation. 

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 03, 2011 06:45 AM (081kp)

48 December 21, 2012 is seeming more plausible every day.

Posted by: maddogg at February 03, 2011 06:46 AM (OlN4e)

49

The Egyptian government is hunting down journalists.

 

I vote we send them some of ours. In fact, send the whole friggin' MFM

 

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 03, 2011 06:48 AM (1Jaio)

50 Has anyone seen that new Anthony Hopkins movie?  Does Soros have a constant twitch?  I'm just saying...

Posted by: Katy Beth at February 03, 2011 06:49 AM (2zwr2)

51

Right wing racists call for Clarence Thomas to be lynched.

...wait...did I say right wing?

Posted by: beedubya at February 03, 2011 06:50 AM (AnTyA)

52 Where's the car swarms?  The MFM needs car swarms!  The MoBros need to get with the program.  They also need islamic rage boy. 

Posted by: havedash at February 03, 2011 06:50 AM (sFD5n)

53 He has four sons from two wives.  Changed his name from schwartz.

Posted by: curious at February 03, 2011 06:51 AM (p302b)

54 they almost had a camel swarm yesterday

Posted by: phoenixgirl at February 03, 2011 06:52 AM (eOXTH)

55 The Egyptians need whiskey, pron, and bacon cheeseburgers, STAT. The Moron Way is the path to peace and prosperity.

Posted by: eman at February 03, 2011 06:52 AM (n0WLs)

56 My friend just said that Beck is wrong about his geography.  Beck is saying if the suez canal is closed it will force the ships to go passed the somali piractes when my friend, who is in shipping, says that won't happen and that Beck should break out a map of Africa.

Posted by: curious at February 03, 2011 06:55 AM (p302b)

57

Hmmm... wonder about the demographics of the groups...

Muby's supporters showed up yesterday, with camels and horses... Country folk?

Where as the earlier protesters, seemed to be able to congregate mobs very quickly... almost like they lived in the city???

Is there also an Urban vs. Non Urban compnent to this? 

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 03, 2011 06:55 AM (AdK6a)

58 #41  Thread winner!

Posted by: Miss Marple at February 03, 2011 06:56 AM (Fo83G)

59

What's the limit on the number of journalists one can bag in a season?

......and how much is the permit?

Posted by: beedubya at February 03, 2011 06:56 AM (AnTyA)

60 The Egyptian government is hunting down journalists.

I have a list.

Posted by: Cherry π at February 03, 2011 06:56 AM (+sBB4)

61 Yesterday the CNBC crew was there and you got the impression that "getting out of Egypt" was no easy task.

Posted by: curious at February 03, 2011 06:58 AM (p302b)

62 Anderson Cooper may have to pull out.

Posted by: SurferDoc at February 03, 2011 06:58 AM (o3bYL)

63 #59  Ne Egyptian income source: journalist hunting permits!  Safaris too!  Extra charges for going after TV people!

Posted by: Miss Marple at February 03, 2011 06:58 AM (Fo83G)

64 44 To all you East Coast lefty liberal Jews who supported Obama along with his goons including Soros.....Ya dig tasting their ass today?  Do you understand this administration's support of the Muslim Brotherhood, a terrorist organization with the goal of wiping Israel off the face of the map?  This will be 100 times worst than Carter's Iran clusterfuck. 

Posted by: Sparky at February 03, 2011 10:42 AM (MNYI+)

Most American liberal jews have no interest in Israel. If you say the word "Israel" they will jump through their butt to tell you that Israelis are not necessarily jews and then condemn the israeli jews for being "religious". They are embarassed by and wish to distance themselves from Israel. It's quite extraordinary that after 6000 years, one generation of jews is happy to throw off their birthright and condemn and betray their own history. I'd like to point out to them that the islamists that they favor for their communist/statism are also "religious" and don't give a shit if they adhere to judiasm or not. The muzzies hate jews not for their religion but for their ancestry. They aren't going to give the american jew with their islamo anti-israel sympathies a break for their lib idealology.

Posted by: dagny at February 03, 2011 06:59 AM (ZuJDg)

65 54 they almost had a camel swarm yesterday

Posted by: phoenixgirl at February 03, 2011 10:52 AM (eOXTH)

Great mental image!  Now that would be funny!

Posted by: havedash at February 03, 2011 07:00 AM (sFD5n)

66 Is Anderson Cooper a doe or a buck?

Posted by: Cherry π at February 03, 2011 07:00 AM (+sBB4)

67 O/T:   Why do they continue to pick the winners and the losers?  Isn't that totally not "the American way"?

Posted by: curious at February 03, 2011 07:00 AM (p302b)

68 62 Anderson Cooper may have to pull out.
Why? Doesn't he use rubbers?

Posted by: Bawny Fwank at February 03, 2011 07:01 AM (OlN4e)

69 Posted by: dagny at February 03, 2011 10:59 AM (ZuJDg)

Funny though, all of them have their children take the free trips to Israel when they are in college.  I think they are legacy trips or birth right trips or something, but no one doesn't take them, they are free trips to Israel, from the government, they all send their kids.

Posted by: curious at February 03, 2011 07:02 AM (p302b)

70 67 O/T:   Why do they continue to pick the winners and the losers?  Isn't that totally not "the American way"?

Posted by: curious at February 03, 2011 11:00 AM (p302b)

And sadly one of the true charges the Islamists can lay at our feet, as that we have, and continue, meddled in the internal politics of countries of the Mid East.

We see it as a needed security measure... they see it as an intrusion of their Sovereinity... but its hard to defend against that charge... when we Mouth off constantly about self determination, but then install, or pull down, Governments.

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 03, 2011 07:03 AM (AdK6a)

71 every time beck says "domino effect" I cringe.

Posted by: J. Patrick Doyle at February 03, 2011 07:05 AM (p302b)

72 56 My friend just said that Beck is wrong about his geography.  Beck is saying if the suez canal is closed it will force the ships to go passed the somali piractes when my friend, who is in shipping, says that won't happen and that Beck should break out a map of Africa.
I guess it would depend on where they are coming from. If they are already in the Red Sea they would have to come fairly close to Somolia to get out into the ocean? Somolia is the south side of the Gulf of Aden.

Posted by: dagny at February 03, 2011 07:05 AM (ZuJDg)

73 It's quite extraordinary that after 6000 years, one generation of jews is happy to throw off their birthright and condemn and betray their own history

This isn't necessarily new.  During the time of the Maccabees, many Jews in Jerusalem had embraced the Hellenism (and religion) of their Greek conquerors.  They actively tried to suppress the practice of the Jewish religion.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at February 03, 2011 07:05 AM (TpXEI)

74 If these protesters are so swell,  why has the State Department just told all Americans to leave immediately?

Posted by: Miss Marple at February 03, 2011 07:06 AM (Fo83G)

75 Foul sock off

Posted by: maddogg at February 03, 2011 07:06 AM (OlN4e)

76 I don't know much about judaism.  I know there are hevy jews, like the hassidic and light jews, like the reformed jews and I don't know a thing about Zionism and what kind of jews they are.  I  would bet that most jews in America don't know much beyond their own group.

Posted by: J. Patrick Doyle at February 03, 2011 07:08 AM (p302b)

77 Good Lord, Egypt hasn't calmed down a single bit. Now the body count (per CNN) is 5 dead, thousands injured.  Nobody wants to say "Civil War", but I don't think the term is that far off.

Posted by: Lincolntf at February 03, 2011 07:09 AM (hUf/c)

78 Don't worry folks, France is taking the lead.

Posted by: dagny at February 03, 2011 10:33 AM (ZuJDg

 

Great!  Nothing like an epic Plague of the Frogs in Biblical proportions.

Posted by: runningrn at February 03, 2011 07:09 AM (ihSHD)

79 #56 I say your shipping friend needs a map. Where do those ships coming out of the Persian Gulf go?

Posted by: Mr. Sar Kastik at February 03, 2011 07:10 AM (8fiyZ)

80 The other day CNN interviewed a kid that looked as American as Apple Pie.  He said he was going to engineering school there and he was half American, his mom lived in Ohio and half Egyptian.  He said he was thrilled to be with his people.  It's kids like that, all starry eyed, who are American even if they are half Egyptian who foolishly think they can stay there, that worry me.   Cause look at what happened with that half Dutch/half Iranian woman in I ran.

Posted by: curious at February 03, 2011 07:12 AM (p302b)

81 69 Posted by: dagny at February 03, 2011 10:59 AM (ZuJDg)

Funny though, all of them have their children take the free trips to Israel when they are in college.  I think they are legacy trips or birth right trips or something, but no one doesn't take them, they are free trips to Israel, from the government, they all send their kids.

 

My nephew's San Francisco, secular jewish Harvard lawyer libtard bitch wife, is the daughter of Israeli emmigrants. Her grandparents went there in the 40s. Her mother was raised in a kabutz and they all speak fluent Hebrew. In fact, daughter has current job because of her Hebrew. Her grandparents live there. YET, they are anti-israel in their US policy opinion, pro-commie. Told me El Al should be "nationalized" so poor people could fly too, like the poor Palestinians. They reflect the opinion of the rest of the Palo Alto freaks. Horrifed that anyone think they actually practice judiasm. Ugh.


Posted by: dagny at February 03, 2011 07:12 AM (ZuJDg)

82 We surrender.

Posted by: France at February 03, 2011 07:12 AM (SJ6/3)

83 77 Good Lord, Egypt hasn't calmed down a single bit. Now the body count (per CNN) is 5 dead, thousands injured.  Nobody wants to say "Civil War", but I don't think the term is that far off.

Posted by: Lincolntf at February 03, 2011 11:09 AM (hUf/c)

If Egypt had a Second Amendment? Yes...

Since it does not... Government Crackdown will continue...

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 03, 2011 07:13 AM (AdK6a)

84 17 CNBC got Erin Burnett out of Cairo. She may be in Saudi Arabia. She interviewed Tom Barrack of Colony Capital, saying he was a billionaire. He had that shaved bald head brain slug landing pad which I'm beginning to wonder about.
_________

I'm not wondering about it.

Posted by: Anachronda at February 03, 2011 07:14 AM (IrbU4)

85

#57 I wonder if the camel and horse brigade are the Bedouins.  Normally, you don't want to mess with them - We had a bunch camped out near Ahli hospital when we lived in Doha

Posted by: Katy Beth at February 03, 2011 07:14 AM (2zwr2)

86 Oh wow some woman jsut said she packs a glock at a code pink rally and she challenged Beck to a duel. 

This stuff that Breitbart got that Beck is playing is vitriolic rhetoric to the max and they are the libs/dems.

Posted by: curious at February 03, 2011 07:14 AM (p302b)

87 The larger super tankers will not fit through the Egypt's Panama canal anyway.

Posted by: Chris Matthews at February 03, 2011 07:15 AM (SJ6/3)

88 79 #56 I say your shipping friend needs a map. Where do those ships coming out of the Persian Gulf go?

Posted by: Mr. Sar Kastik at February 03, 2011 11:10 AM (8fiyZ)

They come out and many do the Properly apporved Right turns, just like my bosses at Fed X say you are supposed to do!

Posted by: Friend in Shipping at February 03, 2011 07:16 AM (AdK6a)

89

This isn't necessarily new.  During the time of the Maccabees, many Jews in Jerusalem had embraced the Hellenism (and religion) of their Greek conquerors.  They actively tried to suppress the practice of the Jewish religion.

Sure. I'm convinced that part of the reason the Sanhedrin condemned Christ so readily was that they thought he was one of the Zealots which would cause trouble with the Romans.

Posted by: dagny at February 03, 2011 07:16 AM (ZuJDg)

90 I was watching the stone throwers and I thought "haven't these people heard of slingshots, they are not hard to make".  Is that bad of me?

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at February 03, 2011 07:17 AM (xdHzq)

91 What is this slingshot of which you speak?

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at February 03, 2011 07:18 AM (SJ6/3)

92 Is that bad of me? Posted by: Guy Fawkes at February 03, 2011 11:17 AM (xdHzq) Bad in a cosmic sense? Debatably. Bad in a "damn, that would be pretty awesome!" sense? Not at all, not at all.

Posted by: joncelli at February 03, 2011 07:19 AM (RD7QR)

93
I was watching the stone throwers and I thought "haven't these people heard of slingshots, they are not hard to make".  Is that bad of me?



David killed Goliath with a sling. David was a Joo. Can't have pure Muslims using dirty Jooish weapons.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 03, 2011 07:19 AM (TAjuH)

94 #90 LOL!  Boy Scouts over here could decimate them

Posted by: Katy Beth at February 03, 2011 07:20 AM (2zwr2)

95

Why isn't anyone on the right talking about what we are NOT hearing in the Egypt story?

It is a good example of Republicans walking-the-walk when it comes to "politics stops at the water's edge", one that the Democrats never emulate.  I mean of course that we are NOT hearing a steady stream of Republican politicians in the media, talking about how flawed the President's response to the crisis is, and how the crisis should have been foreseen, and of course prevented.  And thus of we do not see the media then runing with those stories, conducting interviews with "experts" to validate the spin, and evolving them until they become THE story.

The right should be making this point - we put country first and do not succumb to the temptation to use every world crisis as a club to beat our political opponents.  It is a simple and clear example of the contrasts between the politics of the left and the right.

So the good news is that when we have a Democrat in office we not only get more positive economic news, but we let the President and his team work our foreign policy to the advantage of the country.  The bad news: that is not always the priority of a Democrat President, or within his abilities!

 

Posted by: sherlock at February 03, 2011 07:20 AM (JYBAr)

96 86 Oh wow some woman jsut said she packs a glock at a code pink rally and she challenged Beck to a duel. 

This stuff that Breitbart got that Beck is playing is vitriolic rhetoric to the max and they are the libs/dems.

Posted by: curious at February 03, 2011 11:14 AM (p302b)

Hmm.... well... apparently she is a loon... for not only could Beck choose me to Champion his cause... as a Justicar (or Judicial Fencer) because of his eyesight problems... but as the Challenged party HE could choose the weapons...

Thus... me... her... Case of Rapiers?

SeaWolf, Black Scarf, Band of Black Tigers

Posted by: Friend in Shipping at February 03, 2011 07:20 AM (AdK6a)

97

Don't worry folks, France is taking the lead.

You say that like it's a bad thing - I mean, could they really do any worse than obama.

Think about it - this country might be better off with the leader of....France.

*hangs head in shame*

Posted by: Roadking at February 03, 2011 07:20 AM (3kYoP)

98 Zoros?  Ah yes, one of my best studenten.

Posted by: Zombie Willhelm Sutton at February 03, 2011 07:20 AM (EGXE5)

99

Posted by: Friend in Shipping at February 03, 2011 11:20 AM (AdK6a)

 

OHHHH!!! Epic Sock Failure...

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 03, 2011 07:21 AM (AdK6a)

100

Posted by: Romeo13

Yes, the rift would have to be within the Govt./Army, of course. The people in the sticks (dunes?) of Egypt won't have any say.

 

Posted by: Lincolntf at February 03, 2011 07:21 AM (hUf/c)

101
Zoros?  Ah yes, one of my best studenten.

Posted by: Zombie Willhelm Sutton at February 03, 2011 11:20 AM (EGXE5)



Mein too.

Posted by: Zombie Reinhard Heydrich at February 03, 2011 07:24 AM (TAjuH)

102 Posted by: beedubya at February 03, 2011 10:50 AM (AnTyA)

Send him "back to the fields?" "String him up?" wow. These people are the heirs of Hitler.

Posted by: ABC, NBC, CBS, NYT, AP, WP... at February 03, 2011 07:24 AM (LH6ir)

103

My nephew's San Francisco, secular jewish Harvard lawyer libtard bitch wife, is the daughter of Israeli emmigrants. Her grandparents went there in the 40s. Her mother was raised in a kabutz and they all speak fluent Hebrew. In fact, daughter has current job because of her Hebrew. Her grandparents live there. YET, they are anti-israel in their US policy opinion, pro-commie. Told me El Al should be "nationalized" so poor people could fly too, like the poor Palestinians. They reflect the opinion of the rest of the Palo Alto freaks. Horrifed that anyone think they actually practice judiasm. Ugh.

Posted by: dagny at February 03, 2011 11:12 AM (ZuJDg)

Well, that makes sense since kibbutznics tend to be died-in-the-wool true believer socialists.  Even though pretty much all the kibbutzim were total failures, and have since turned into moshavim (where people own their own farming land) or been broken up and sold outright.

It's odd that the kibbutzim, as wildly left-wing as they were, tended to produce a hugely disproportionate number of Israel's elite fighters - something like 30% of the elite units were kibbutznics even though they only made up around 2% of the population.  I always figured that this was due to the fact that they were farmers and farm life just builds heartier people.

The things they used to do on the kibbutaim were so far left that even American socialists would be shocked - like they used to take kids away from their parents very early to all be raised together in the "children's house".  That particularly weird experiment was eventually rejected by all the kibbutzim after a generation or two.  Kibbutzim also used to rotate everyone through every job, basically, trying to be as equal as possible - which is one of the reasons why the kibbutzim were all total failures.  That piece of leftist wisdom was also abandoned, though not as quickly as the child one.

Even so, former kibbutznics still tend to be wildly left in their politics.

Posted by: iknowtheleft at February 03, 2011 07:24 AM (N49h9)

104 Damned sock.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at February 03, 2011 07:24 AM (LH6ir)

105 6 I'd like one of those Egyptian journalist hunting licenses.

Q: Are there bag limits?

I say we get them all while there is a chance. Imagine, you could rid the planet of some substantial carbon dioxide.

Posted by: Marcus at February 03, 2011 07:24 AM (CHrmZ)

106 Posted by: sherlock at February 03, 2011 11:20 AM (JYBAr)
I was not a big GWB fan but the man couldn't take a crap without every dem/lib congressman or senator piling on. 

I think that John was summoned to make sure the republicans/conservatives continue to keep their mouths shut.  It is sad to watch.  We independents have realized there is one political class, made up of two parties, for a long time.

Posted by: curious at February 03, 2011 07:25 AM (p302b)

107

Lefties

http://tinyurl.com/4a33elh

Posted by: dagny at February 03, 2011 07:25 AM (ZuJDg)

108 Who cares was happens to pharaoh-spawn. I hate every iota of a crackuh.

Posted by: Ishmael Jackson at February 03, 2011 07:26 AM (xs5wK)

109

Think about it - this country might be better off with the leader of....France.

*hangs head in shame*




Sarkozy is pretty frickn' awesome for a Frog. He's even bringing his hawt left-wing wife around to the dark side.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 03, 2011 07:26 AM (TAjuH)

110 ok.......so an suv went into the river in oklahoma....and the rescue is breaking news? i hope everyone involved is alright but honestly....

Posted by: phoenixgirl at February 03, 2011 10:28 AM (eOXTH)

 

Eight people in a pickup truck here in OK just screams illegal Mexicans. 

Posted by: Soona at February 03, 2011 07:27 AM (N2GVy)

111 I just saw an image from AP about the Egyptian army quelling the riots or whatever. It looked like they have an M1 tank? How does Egypt get that tank?

Posted by: joeindc44 at February 03, 2011 07:27 AM (QxSug)

112  We independents have realized there is one political class, and made up of two parties, Washington Beurocrats, the pundits, and MSM, for a long time.

Posted by: curious at February 03, 2011 11:25 AM (p302b)

don't usually do this... but Fixed it for me... LOL...

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 03, 2011 07:28 AM (AdK6a)

113 I was watching the stone throwers and I thought "haven't these people heard of slingshots, they are not hard to make".  Is that bad of me?
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at February 03, 2011 11:17 AM

They throw like a bunch of soccer players.  If anyone gets hit, it's because they are standing too close together.

Posted by: huerfano at February 03, 2011 07:29 AM (QgmBR)

114

I'd like one of those Egyptian journalist hunting licenses.

 

Heh!  As I read that, I could hear John F'n Kerry's voice! 


Posted by: runningrn at February 03, 2011 07:29 AM (ihSHD)

115

Sarkozy is pretty frickn' awesome for a Frog.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 03, 2011 11:26 AM (TAjuH)

That's only because he really isn't a Frog.  Even so, he's still pretty nutty by normal standards.  But, we'll take what we can get.

Posted by: iknowtheleft at February 03, 2011 07:29 AM (N49h9)

116

like they used to take kids away from their parents very early to all be raised together in the "children's house"

The mother of the horrorstory may have been the victim of that. I have never met a more neurotic person in my life. It's amazing the damage you can do to a child by separating it from its mother.

Posted by: dagny at February 03, 2011 07:29 AM (ZuJDg)

117 Some guy is on beck calling for the mexican illegals in America to go back to Mexico and have the same kind of revolution the people are having in Egypt.  It would be funny if it wasn't so sad.

Posted by: curious at February 03, 2011 07:30 AM (p302b)

118 Stolen from zh:
According to Al Jazeera, the Egyptian Central Bank has just imposed a withdrawal limit of $10,000 on all banks in order to prevent a systemic bank run that will promptly wipe out what is left of the financial system. Look for this number to be cut to $100 in the first several minutes after banks reopen (whenever that actually happens).

Coming soon to a country near you.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at February 03, 2011 07:30 AM (xdHzq)

119 111 I just saw an image from AP about the Egyptian army quelling the riots or whatever. It looked like they have an M1 tank? How does Egypt get that tank?

Posted by: joeindc44 at February 03, 2011 11:27 AM (QxSug)

they build them under License from America... with American Help... and yes, they are upgraded to M1A2 SEP specs... so pretty dang good tanks.

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 03, 2011 07:30 AM (AdK6a)

120
I just saw an image from AP about the Egyptian army quelling the riots or whatever. It looked like they have an M1 tank? How does Egypt get that tank?



They build 'em under license with downgraded armor & systems. Not as capable as the true-blue American versions, but far superior to the average SovBloc T72/T80 you see in the third world.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 03, 2011 07:31 AM (TAjuH)

121 I'm puzzled as to why corn futures would go up as a result of unrest in Egypt.  They're an importer, not an exporter.  If anything I assume this mess will diminish their buying power, rather than increase it.

Posted by: Reactionary at February 03, 2011 07:31 AM (xUM1Q)

122 Posted by: Romeo13 at February 03, 2011 11:28 AM (AdK6a)

Please, your changing of my words is funny, however, those words are now attributed to me and I didn't write them. 

Do you understand where I am coming from?

Posted by: curious at February 03, 2011 07:32 AM (p302b)

123

Eight people in a pickup truck here in OK just screams illegal Mexicans. 

Posted by: Soona at February 03, 2011 11:27 AM

That and the name "Enrique" emblazoned across the windshield.

Posted by: huerfano at February 03, 2011 07:32 AM (QgmBR)

124 121 Ethenol

Posted by: dagny at February 03, 2011 07:32 AM (ZuJDg)

125

I'm puzzled as to why corn futures would go up as a result of unrest in Egypt.  They're an importer, not an exporter.  If anything I assume this mess will diminish their buying power, rather than increase it.

 

Dagny's right.  They're getting ready to up the ethanol production.  Ethanol/Bio-diesel--responsible for more world hunger and food shortages than any recent famine.

Posted by: runningrn at February 03, 2011 07:34 AM (ihSHD)

126 121 I'm puzzled as to why corn futures would go up as a result of unrest in Egypt.  They're an importer, not an exporter.  If anything I assume this mess will diminish their buying power, rather than increase it.

Posted by: Reactionary at February 03, 2011 11:31 AM (xUM1Q)

You have cause and effect backwards.... one of the things that historicly create unrest are food price increases... and some say that food prices in Egypt helped spark this Protest movement.

French Revolution, Hitler's rise to power, Russian Revolution... all happened when food prices spiked, so people lost trust in the Governments ability.

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 03, 2011 07:35 AM (AdK6a)

127 Ethenol

Posted by: dagny at February 03, 2011 11:32 AM (ZuJDg)

I'm all in favor of it.  It makes a perfect after-dinner drink.  And I don't have to hide the bottles around the house.  My car becomes a traveling bar!

Posted by: Kitty Dukakis at February 03, 2011 07:35 AM (N49h9)

128 hmmm, well, the M1 has its special armor and its targeting computer. I wonder which gets downgraded how much. I guess past administrations have felt pretty comfy with Egypt to let them have the king of tanks.

Posted by: joeindc44 at February 03, 2011 07:35 AM (QxSug)

129 I'd like to see Soros staked naked to an army ant hill on a video pleading for his open society life.
That would make a YouTube viral keeper.
At least for me. 

Posted by: ontherocks at February 03, 2011 07:36 AM (HBqDo)

130  I'd like one of those Egyptian journalist hunting licenses.

Q: Are there bag limits?

I say we get them all while there is a chance. Imagine, you could rid the planet of some substantial carbon dioxide.

Posted by: Marcus at February 03, 2011 11:24 AM (CHrmZ)

 

All except for Megyn Kelly.  She's mine.  I'll take care of her myself. 

Posted by: Soona at February 03, 2011 07:36 AM (N2GVy)

131 It looked like they have an M1 tank? How does Egypt get that tank?

Don't worry, they are not equipped with slingshots.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at February 03, 2011 07:36 AM (xdHzq)

132
I'm puzzled as to why corn futures would go up as a result of unrest in Egypt.



Ethanol, I'd think. Increased petroleum prices make ethanol more attractive as an additive to stretch gas supplies.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 03, 2011 07:37 AM (TAjuH)

133 Just watched a (new?) video on Fox clearly showing a van running down people in the street. The van looked quasi-military.

Posted by: Lincolntf at February 03, 2011 07:38 AM (hUf/c)

134
It looked like they have an M1 tank? How does Egypt get that tank?

Don't worry, they are not equipped with slingshots.



How about longbows?

*ducks*

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 03, 2011 07:38 AM (TAjuH)

135

corn futures and ethanol and global warming - if the New World Order can't kill off "those people" via war and disease, they'll just have to starve them. The Left is pure evil

Posted by: Katy Beth at February 03, 2011 07:39 AM (2zwr2)

136 5 dead.  Heh, We had that many die in one shootout today in the suburbs.

Let's not go lose our heads here.

Posted by: Cherry π at February 03, 2011 07:39 AM (+sBB4)

137

 Is Anderson Cooper a doe or a buck?

yes

Posted by: beedubya at February 03, 2011 07:40 AM (AnTyA)

138 Just watched a (new?) video on Fox clearly showing a van running down people in the street  journalists

Posted by: Cherry π at February 03, 2011 07:40 AM (+sBB4)

139 134
It looked like they have an M1 tank? How does Egypt get that tank?

Don't worry, they are not equipped with slingshots.



How about longbows?

*ducks*

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 03, 2011 11:38 AM (TAjuH)

NO, I don't think we gave them the Apache Longbow variant...

/snark...

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 03, 2011 07:41 AM (AdK6a)

140

Is Anderson Cooper a doe or a buck?


He'll do you for a buck, if that answers your question.

Posted by: iknowtheleft at February 03, 2011 07:42 AM (N49h9)

141 I'm puzzled as to why corn futures would go up as a result of unrest in Egypt. Posted by: Reactionary at February 03, 2011 11:31 AM

Simple: because they can. It should be clear by now that the commodities market fluctuates according to the desire of traders to make hay off any unrest or natural occurrence anywhere in the world.

Look at oil prices. Every time the rumors are spread that "prices will go higher" because of this or that -- a hurricane, a spill, riots in Dogshitistan -- bingo! they go up.

Profits for the paper-shuffling leeches, a little more hardship for the rest of us.

Posted by: MrScribbler© at February 03, 2011 07:44 AM (Ulu3i)

142 markets are irrational. deal with it.

Posted by: joeindc44 at February 03, 2011 07:44 AM (QxSug)

143 Here's one thing I don't understand:  at one time Egypt was the breadbasket and chief supplier of Rome's grain.  So what the heck happened to make Egypt a net consumer of food? 

Did the climate change, or are agricultural practices too backward to support their current population?

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at February 03, 2011 07:45 AM (TpXEI)

144

Corn? CORN??

How does all this affect the price of gay bedouin midget pron? 

Posted by: Anderson Cooper at February 03, 2011 07:45 AM (pr+up)

145 That and the name "Enrique" emblazoned across the windshield.

Posted by: huerfano at February 03, 2011 11:32 AM (QgmBR)

 

That would be part of our illegal French/Mexican population.

 

 

Posted by: Soona at February 03, 2011 07:45 AM (N2GVy)

146 So what the heck happened to make Egypt a net consumer of food? 1. Arab socialism 2. Massive population growth

Posted by: joncelli at February 03, 2011 07:46 AM (RD7QR)

147 143 Here's one thing I don't understand:  at one time Egypt was the breadbasket and chief supplier of Rome's grain.  So what the heck happened to make Egypt a net consumer of food? 

Did the climate change, or are agricultural practices too backward to support their current population?

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at February 03, 2011 11:45 AM (TpXEI)

Population increase. In 14 AD the entire Roman Empire was less than 5 million people... Today Cairo by itself is 17 Million...

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 03, 2011 07:47 AM (AdK6a)

148 Where are all the Guns ?
During all this chaos I am surprised that there is not the usual toting of the AK47 and such let alone being used on each other. Excuse my ignorance but does Egypt have some kind of strict gun law ? Is it personal restraint or what ?
It is/ was nice to not see the brutal killing and slaughtering of people by the religion of peace but how long before it gets really deadly ugly?

Posted by: melvin at February 03, 2011 07:47 AM (3OCZw)

149

We should be listening in much the same way to George Soros and, say, Liza Minelli or Paul Tagliabue regarding Egypt policy:  Not at all.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 03, 2011 07:48 AM (B+qrE)

150

I was watching the stone throwers and I thought "haven't these people heard of slingshots, they are not hard to make".  Is that bad of me?

They throw a lot like our President, too.

Posted by: garrett at February 03, 2011 07:48 AM (jB/TO)

151

So what the heck happened to make Egypt a net consumer of food?

Hapi is not happy.

Posted by: Lincolntf at February 03, 2011 07:48 AM (hUf/c)

152

Look at oil prices. Every time the rumors are spread that "prices will go higher" because of this or that -- a hurricane, a spill, riots in Dogshitistan -- bingo! they go up.

Profits for the paper-shuffling leeches, a little more hardship for the rest of us.

Yes, it's all just a giant conspiracy.  Please give it a rest.  I note that I do not hear this angle when prices go down.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 03, 2011 07:50 AM (B+qrE)

153 Did the climate change, or are agricultural practices too backward to support their current population? Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at February 03, 2011 11:45 AM (TpXEI) I think the current population is too backwards for the agricultural practices. Ancient Egyptians died out a long time ago- the current inhabitants of the area are not the same people who fed Rome.

Posted by: Nighthawk at February 03, 2011 07:50 AM (RSqz2)

154

Q: So what the heck happened to make Egypt a net consumer of food? 

A: (hint: starts with "I")

Posted by: sherlock at February 03, 2011 07:50 AM (JYBAr)

155

Posted by: melvin at February 03, 2011 11:47 AM (3OCZw)

Civilians cannot own long guns (rifles and such)

Pistols are tightly controlled, and you must proove you have an actual need before you can get a license.

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 03, 2011 07:51 AM (AdK6a)

156

A: (hint: starts with "I") ...and endss with " 'slam your head into the wall if you don't put that Birka back on, bitch' ".

Posted by: garrett at February 03, 2011 07:52 AM (jB/TO)

157 Heh. Michelle said that Charlotte has "great barbeque". Charlotte says, "really where?" Giant FAIL in pretending to know anything about the south.

Posted by: dagny at February 03, 2011 07:53 AM (ZuJDg)

158 I think the current population is too backwards for the agricultural practices. Ancient Egyptians died out a long time ago- the current inhabitants of the area are not the same people who fed Rome.

Posted by: Nighthawk at February 03, 2011 11:50 AM (RSqz2)

Actualy, if'n I remember correctly... the Nile used to Flood, and replenish the soil in the Nile basin... but with modern flood control the soil quality is eroding...

Modern farming methods can overcome this... but key word is "modern".

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 03, 2011 07:54 AM (AdK6a)

159

Re corn, quite a few interesting answers.  I assume that the ethanol boost probably did more for the price than the unrest, but given that commodity speculation can be triggered by almost anything I suppose it will never be totally clear.  I guess the upshot is that those idiots in Egypt will need to figure out how to restore the fertility of the Nile Delta (which they destroyed in the name of hydroelectric power).  Looks like lots of folks have time to screw around in street protests - sending them back to the farm might be a good way to occupy their time.

I doubt that the corn price will stay up long.  The government's been paying farmers to leave land sitting doing nothing - I suspect a lot of that will come back into production in the next couple years at growing become more lucrative than not growing.  In the mean time, more $ for US exporters, which is all to the good.  Nobody in the US will starve as a result of higher corn price, which is all I care about.  The ungrateful foreigners are on their own.  At long last.  The fewer of them who survive the better - fewer enemies to attack us.

 

Posted by: Reactionary at February 03, 2011 07:54 AM (xUM1Q)

160

#156 wins da prize!

Hey, anybody have a link to Churchill's writings on our favorite religion of peace?

Posted by: sherlock at February 03, 2011 07:55 AM (JYBAr)

161


Civilians cannot own long guns (rifles and such)

Pistols are tightly controlled, and you must proove you have an actual need before you can get a license.

Posted by: Romeo13

OK thanks  So when the guns magically appear in numbers we can assume all law and order is gone or at least the enforcement part of it. I'm sure that their are efforts under way to introduce them into this conflict.

Posted by: melvin at February 03, 2011 07:56 AM (3OCZw)

162

Hey, anybody have a link to Churchill's writings on our favorite religion of peace?

Posted by: sherlock at February 03, 2011 11:55 AM (JYBAr)

Churchill in The River War (1899):


How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries.

Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity.

The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the Queen; all know how to die; but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it.

No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science‹the science against which it had vainly struggled‹the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome.

Posted by: iknowtheleft at February 03, 2011 07:58 AM (N49h9)

163 FNC is talking about the fact that if you walk on ice, there's a chance that you could slip and fall down.  Glad to know that.  Thank God for 24/7 news.

Posted by: Soona at February 03, 2011 07:59 AM (N2GVy)

164

Posted by: Reactionary at February 03, 2011 11:54 AM (xUM1Q)

Corn prices are one cause of this protest, IMO, not a result.

Corn futures have been going up for months... due to a combination of Weather, probs in Russia, and Ethanol increase...

Corn is just an indicator of food price increase... but one easy to view.

I've seen numbers that food prices in Egypt have risen more than 20% overall, which in third wold economies is a HUGE part of their living expenses.

And when people start to worry about how they are going to feed their kids, they look for outside blame.. ie, the Government.... and once you loose confidence in the Government?  then change.... looking for a form of Govenment who will make it so you can feed your kids... (see Hitler, Stalin, Napoleon... all came into power at times of economic and FOOD crises).

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 03, 2011 08:01 AM (AdK6a)

165 So when the guns magically appear in numbers we can assume all law and order is gone or at least the enforcement part of it. I'm sure that their are efforts under way to introduce them into this conflict.

Posted by: melvin at February 03, 2011 11:56 AM (3OCZw)

Yet another export market for America's manufacturers.  We should be selling them AK clones, ammo, magazines, etc.  On the sly, of course.  Once they go full Sharia Compliant I assume they'll be buying them up like hotcakes, so we should try to beat the rush of suppliers.  Of course, we should also sabotage their tank factories.  No sense letting them have weapons that are effective in a strategic sense.

Posted by: Reactionary at February 03, 2011 08:01 AM (xUM1Q)

166

Posted by: iknowtheleft at February 03, 2011 11:58 AM (N49h9)

Yeah, I wonder why Barky returned that bust?

 

Posted by: garrett at February 03, 2011 08:05 AM (jB/TO)

167

Weird confluence. CNN is showing a report (for at least the second time) featuring Obama regarding his Christian faith, Fox News is reporting that the report on the Ft. Hood terror attack is circulating and MSNBC is showing the clips of the Camel Brigade.

I have to stop channel surfing or I'm gonna go loopy.

Posted by: Lincolntf at February 03, 2011 08:06 AM (hUf/c)

168

Yeah, I wonder why Barky returned that bust?

Posted by: garrett at February 03, 2011 12:05 PM (jB/TO)


I'm still amazed that Britain didn't understand what that gesture meant.  It's not as if it was subtle.  Those Brits are pretty damn dense, these days.

That said, Churchill probably gets the same treatment in Brtain, today, as Bomber Harris.  Like they never existed ...

Posted by: iknowtheleft at February 03, 2011 08:08 AM (N49h9)

169
I'm gonna go loopy

Yea thats what the news does to fill in the down time - they run the same video loops repeatedly non stop while they make sound with their faces.

Posted by: melvin at February 03, 2011 08:09 AM (3OCZw)

170 The larger super tankers will not fit through the Egypt's Panama canal anyway.

Posted by: Chris Matthews at February 03, 2011 11:15 AM (SJ6/3)

That's the Erie Canal, dumbfuck.

Posted by: a jobless keith olbermann at February 03, 2011 08:13 AM (2rOwc)

171 The larger super tankers will not fit through the Egypt's Panama canal anyway.

Posted by: Chris Matthews at February 03, 2011 11:15 AM (SJ6/3)

It doesn't matter.  Egypt doesn't have to let super-tankers through their Panama Canal since they can pump enough oil out of their ANWAR Sadat oil fields if they choose.

Posted by: Chris Matthews' Smarter Brother at February 03, 2011 08:17 AM (N49h9)

172 1% of the worlds oil goes through the Suez Canal.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at February 03, 2011 08:20 AM (SJ6/3)

173 #168 iknowtheleft,  when I was in London in October leftist protesters had taken over Parliament Square and had propped 9/11 Truther signs around Churchill's statue.

They also had tents and things because they were squatting there.   It was disgusting,  right across from Parliament and Westminster Abbey. 

I went and looked at the large statue of Richard the Lion-heart,  the Crusader King, which is out in front of the House of Lords.  They will probably have to take that down soon.  Crusades,  you know.

Posted by: Miss Marple at February 03, 2011 08:21 AM (Fo83G)

174 Saw this on twitter breaking news under the headline:  " BBCWorld Egyptian security seize BBC equipment at Cairo Hilton in attempt to stop us broadcasting #Egypt"
"
The vice president promised that Mubarak's son — Gamal — would not run to succeed his father in presidential elections in September, and prosecutors announced an assets freeze and travel ban on three former minister who were among the most unpopular regime figures."

since they specifically named Gamal, does that mean one of the other sons will be running?

Posted by: curious at February 03, 2011 08:21 AM (p302b)

175 174 That is what happens when the Brits attempt to speak English.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at February 03, 2011 08:23 AM (SJ6/3)

176 Posted by: Miss Marple at February 03, 2011 12:21 PM (Fo83G)

Yep.  It's really a shame how far the Brits have fallen.  When a society is embarrassed about its history - especially a great history - there's nowhere to go but straight down.

Of course, who are we to talk?  Our countrymen voted in an America-hating marxist named Hussein into the White House less than a decade after 9/11.

It's enough to make a grown man cry ... even if he isn't John Boehner.

Posted by: iknowtheleft at February 03, 2011 08:27 AM (N49h9)

177

I went and looked at the large statue of Richard the Lion-heart,  the Crusader King, which is out in front of the House of Lords.  They will probably have to take that down soon.  Crusades,  you know.

Yes, because Islams spread spontaneously and peacefully, don't you know.

Bin Laden and his intellectual nitwit cousins never mention the Mongols smacking them around becasue they are afraid they'll come back.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 03, 2011 08:27 AM (B+qrE)

178

1% of the worlds oil goes through the Suez Canal.

I'm not sure that's accurate.  It's around a million barrels a day northbound.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 03, 2011 08:31 AM (B+qrE)

179

Bin Laden and his intellectual nitwit cousins never mention the Mongols smacking them around becasue they are afraid they'll come back.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 03, 2011 12:27 PM (B+qrE)

And the same Western leftists who get on Europeans for bringing small pox to the New World never seem to mention how the Mongols catapulted plague victims over the walls of Caffa and brought the Black Death to Europe not 200 years before the discovery of the New World.

It's interesting how the plague ended up spurring the greatest period of innovation and development, in Europe, Man had ever seen.

But the lefties always forget to mention these little tidbits.

Posted by: iknowtheleft at February 03, 2011 08:35 AM (N49h9)

180

I'm still amazed that Britain didn't understand what that gesture meant.  It's not as if it was subtle.  Those Brits are pretty damn dense, these days.

Oh, the Muzzies in Britain, and around the World, knew what that meant. 

 I still want to see the LA Times owned Video of Obama speechifying in honour of Rashid Khalidi. 

I can't shake the feeling that Obama has always wanted to apply Cloward and Piven to the Arab Street.  Since Israel has stymied his attempt at Pali liberation, how else would a Chicago community organiser (read: street thug) go about affecting this problem?

Posted by: FLOTUS to be Sandra Lee? at February 03, 2011 08:44 AM (jB/TO)

181 tablescaperPuppehtOFF!

Posted by: garrett at February 03, 2011 08:45 AM (jB/TO)

182 Richard The Lionhearted, LOL, probably one of the most propagandized king of England ever by Hollywood. We all know him as the good King who prince John tried to usurp in Robin Hood. The hero who returned to England from the crusades and put everything right and elevated Robin back to his rightful title.

The truth is a lot different. For one thing, outside of the crusades he never lived in England. He could not even speak English. He looted the English treasury first for ransom then to build castles in France. All of the evils of taxation attributed to John in Robin Hood were actually the work of Richard.

He died in and is buried in France.

Posted by: Vic at February 03, 2011 08:52 AM (M9Ie6)

183 Oh, the Muzzies in Britain, and around the World, knew what that meant. Posted by: FLOTUS to be Sandra Lee? at February 03, 2011 12:44 PM (jB/TO) Some in the British press did understand that Obama's Churchill gesture was also related to British East Africa's (now Kenya) Mau-Mau rebellion, during which Obama claims that his grandfather was tortured by the British. Churchill was UK's PM during that time and, therefore, ordered the rebellion to be put down. Not saying that Obama's Churchill gesture didn't have anything to do with his words about Islam, however. It was probably a twofer. Obama certainly knows how to offer an effective insult; probably because doing so doesn't require any intellect or empathy.

Posted by: baldilocks at February 03, 2011 08:52 AM (T2/zQ)

184 176 There is a limit the the patience of the average Brit.  When they have had enough it gets ugly  and public in a hurry.

Posted by: SurferDoc at February 03, 2011 08:59 AM (o3bYL)

185 There is a limit the the patience of the average Brit.  When they have had enough it gets ugly  and public in a hurry.

Posted by: SurferDoc at February 03, 2011 12:59 PM (o3bYL)

Yep.  That's true of Western Europe, in general.  They like to let things go until they are totally out of hand and then they go totally apeshit in their reaction.  You nailed it.  We can expect some real ugliness to come from Britain and Europe in the next decade.  Really, really ugly.

Posted by: iknowtheleft at February 03, 2011 09:17 AM (N49h9)

186

Posted by: iknowtheleft at February 03, 2011 01:17 PM (N49h9)

I read an intersting paper awhile back... whose premise was that Zero Tolerance in school for violence, is leading to greater levles of violence when it does happen...

Works like this... a bully pushes you... and you do nothing... the bully then hits you, because he does not care about following the rules anyway, but the victim cares about rules, and so does nothing... eventually it escalates until the poor kid is so scared, and so angry, that he goes nuts on the bully on day.

When intialy, a simple push back would have been sufficient.

This is Western Europe today....

 

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 03, 2011 09:24 AM (AdK6a)

187 They like to let things go until they are totally out of hand and then they go totally apeshit in their reaction.  You nailed it.  We can expect some real ugliness to come from Britain and Europe in the next decade.  Really, really ugly.

Posted by: iknowtheleft at February 03, 2011 01:17 PM (N49h9)

Let's hope they still have the spine, and the numbers, to make this happen.  If it ever does I'll be eating popcorn, drinking vodka, and watching the news all evening long.

Posted by: Reactionary at February 03, 2011 09:26 AM (xUM1Q)

188

Let's hope they still have the spine, and the numbers, to make this happen.  If it ever does I'll be eating popcorn, drinking vodka, and watching the news all evening long.

Posted by: Reactionary at February 03, 2011 01:26 PM (xUM1Q)

Well... Eastern Europe still has some Cojones... sooo... they have a set of naturual allies there...

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 03, 2011 09:39 AM (AdK6a)

189

#183 - the atrocities committed by Nazis, by Japanese, by Khmer Rouge and by Muslim radicals pale in comparison to the monstrous atrocities committed by the Mau Mau savages in Africa, all of whom should have been summarily executed for the vicious crimes which they committed against blacks and whites, alike.

BTW, Obama is a liar. His grandfather was punished for his crimes, not tortured, and he got off light, considering that he should have been beheaded for his monstrous crimes.  Even when they're savage and merciless butchers like the Mau Mau were, they portray themselves as victims and they stick up for each other. We see it among black inmates in our own prisons. They are immoral. 

Posted by: Brian at February 03, 2011 09:48 AM (sYrWB)

190 All's I needed to know was soros likes the moose-limb brudder-hood. That means I don't.

Mubarak? Our barak, l'il barry dunham? eh, not so much.

It's sad to watch the evil dictator, who sent security forces to murder and terrorize Christians for 20 years, in his struggle to retain control from the stone flinging, pedophile, whoremonger hermaphrodite moon god worshipping moose-limbs.

I have no idea who to cheer for. I know I'm on the side of the Coptic Christians.
I will neither confirm nor deny the existence of Catholics in Egypt as that would mean a death sentence for them.

But an idea has just arrived. Exactly why does the Marine hymn include a reference to the Barbary Coast? Could it be that we had a good working foreign policy when our perspective on the Eastern Med was seen through the lens of what American interests are in peril and how many Marines will take to secure those interests?

Yea, we should send the Marines. Right after the various factions think they have something settled, show up and give 'em a little education.

Posted by: Blacksmith8 at February 03, 2011 11:31 AM (Q1qy3)

191 Oh how I long for the days of US Imperial colonization.

*sigh*

Posted by: Blacksmith8 at February 03, 2011 12:21 PM (Q1qy3)

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