February 03, 2011
— DrewM The new Prime Minister apologizes for yesterday's outbreak of violence.
The army, which stood by yesterday during the clashes, has moved in to keep the pro and anti-government forces separated.
There are reports that several former minsters have had their assets frozen and are under a travel ban.
The new Vice President says Mubarak's son will not run to replace his father in the September elections.
The Egyptian government is hunting down journalists.
The curfew is back in force, at least in name and the crowds are still in Tahrir Square. Al Jezzera English has a live stream running.
Oh and George Soros would like you to know that the Muslim Brotherhood are the good guys helping to bring democracy to Egypt while the main obstacle is...wait for it....Israel.
Related: Algeria has canceled it's 19 year long "State of Emergency". Gee, I wonder what changed?
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Posted by: AoSHQ stylebook at February 03, 2011 06:14 AM (GTbGH)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 03, 2011 06:16 AM (jFKdv)
Posted by: Jean at February 03, 2011 06:17 AM (WkuV6)
Posted by: nevergiveup at February 03, 2011 06:18 AM (0GFWk)
Posted by: Purple Avenger at February 03, 2011 06:20 AM (Nc8Za)
From what I have been reading, it looks like Hosni Mubarak's son was transforming Egypt from a Centralized economy to a more liberal free market economy. He was also challenging the military for control of the nation. The main political party was just a tool of the military filled with ex military men but Mubarak's son was turning it into a real political party separate from the military.
So, it looks like the Egyptian people hated the wrong Mubarak.
It's funny how history works that way. It's happened before, when Princip killed Franz Ferdinand. Ferdinand was next in line to the Hapburg monarchy and would have succeeded Franz Joseph. However, Ferdinand had a much more liberal idea for the Austro-Hungarian Empire. He wanted to give more autonomy to the lesser "states" within the monarchy and create something more like the United States than a tradional monarch with vassel states. So Princip shot the wrong Habsburg.
It looks like Egypt is condemned to Centralized dictatorial control for the foreseeable future. The protestors cannot win. Eas day that passes, the weaker they become. No one is coming to back them. No us, not Europe, no one. I give it another week before the protests stop and the police really start to crack down.
Posted by: Ben at February 03, 2011 06:20 AM (wuv1c)
Is there no evil that this SOB will not do? I swear if I was dictator for a day this sorry SOB would have his citizenship stripped and he would be deported to the sorriest hell hole I could find.
Posted by: Vic at February 03, 2011 06:21 AM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: dagny at February 03, 2011 06:21 AM (ZuJDg)
Meh... The last 5,000 years of recorded history in Egypt has been pretty much the same.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at February 03, 2011 06:22 AM (Nc8Za)
Posted by: JP at February 03, 2011 06:22 AM (8s9tr)
Posted by: Lincolntf at February 03, 2011 06:22 AM (hUf/c)
Posted by: Vic at February 03, 2011 06:22 AM (M9Ie6)
The new Prime Minister apologizes for yesterday's outbreak of violence.
Yes, I am sorry the people got their friggin heads bashed in.
Posted by: Ahmed Shafiq at February 03, 2011 06:23 AM (pr+up)
Also, Drew, the Algerians declared that state of emergency because the militant Islamist party won the first round of voting in 1991.
The military declared the emergeny to prevent an islamist takeover. So while we normally thing military interfereing in democracy is a bad thing, in some places like Algeria and Turkey, it can be a good thing.
The military also then banned all politically parties based on religion and the nation went into a civil war. Thankfully the Algerian government and military won.
Posted by: Ben at February 03, 2011 06:23 AM (wuv1c)
Posted by: dagny at February 03, 2011 06:23 AM (ZuJDg)
Posted by: curious at February 03, 2011 06:24 AM (p302b)
Fuck Soros.
One of the best things you can do for yourself (health) and everyone else for that matter (again health) is buy food that is labeled No GMO. That piece of shit is now heavily invested in Monsanto which if you dig deep enough will start to sound like a plot right out of a James Bond movie complete with an old creepy mega rich villain.
Posted by: Roadking at February 03, 2011 06:24 AM (3kYoP)
Posted by: Jean at February 03, 2011 06:24 AM (WkuV6)
Posted by: Ben at February 03, 2011 06:25 AM (wuv1c)
"This alleged violence has to ummm, errrr, ahhh maybe..., no...probably, stop."
Posted by: Purple Avenger at February 03, 2011 06:25 AM (Nc8Za)
Posted by: Jean at February 03, 2011 06:27 AM (WkuV6)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at February 03, 2011 06:28 AM (eOXTH)
Absolutely nothing. This is completely under control. Nothing to worry about. Time to move along. There will free and fair elections within days. Women will have equal rights by the end of the year.
We can go ahead and let Murbarak and son come live in LA - for humanitarian reasons, of course.
Did I mention that this was all caused by the vicious climate of hate created by Sarah Palin. Good thing we have Barack Hussein and the Muslim Brotherhood to calm the fears of the rabble long suffering Egyptian people. laureate
Posted by: Paul R. Krugman Nobel Laureate in Blood Libel at February 03, 2011 06:28 AM (YZ0iV)
Posted by: dagny at February 03, 2011 06:28 AM (ZuJDg)
Posted by: curious at February 03, 2011 06:30 AM (p302b)
Posted by: moi at February 03, 2011 06:30 AM (Ez4Ql)
Posted by: Katy Beth at February 03, 2011 06:31 AM (MS9hn)
Posted by: curious at February 03, 2011 06:32 AM (p302b)
Posted by: maddogg at February 03, 2011 06:33 AM (OlN4e)
Posted by: Jeff in PA at February 03, 2011 06:33 AM (45WVs)
The Egyptian government is hunting down journalists.
One can only hope that they're not practicing "catch and release".
Posted by: ya2daup at February 03, 2011 06:33 AM (yRrAd)
Posted by: dagny at February 03, 2011 06:33 AM (ZuJDg)
Huh. Remember the last decade, when "the stupid imperialist chimperor-in-chief's meddling in other countries' affairs" was cited as a root cause of Middle Eastern/Islamic terrorism?
Posted by: HeatherRadish at February 03, 2011 06:33 AM (TUpD9)
The Egyptian government is hunting down journalists.
Anderson Cooper is hiding where they will least expect him, at a Turkish Bath House.
Posted by: Ben at February 03, 2011 06:34 AM (wuv1c)
I do wonder how an infamous Nazi collaborator and currency manipulator can write those words and not instantly burst into flames.
Posted by: Waterhouse at February 03, 2011 06:34 AM (3YYhR)
Posted by: moi at February 03, 2011 06:34 AM (Ez4Ql)
hehe - the just showed a protester wearing a soup pot on his head as a helmet.
Posted by: Annabelle at February 03, 2011 06:37 AM (4kxCX)
Posted by: maddogg at February 03, 2011 06:39 AM (OlN4e)
hehe - the just showed a protester wearing a soup pot on his head as a helmet.
Posted by: Annabelle at February 03, 2011 10:37 AM (4kxCX)
No soup for Jooooos!
Posted by: ya2daup at February 03, 2011 06:39 AM (yRrAd)
Corn futures in a steep price increase... about to hit $7 a bushel...
This is FAR from over folks, UNLESS yesterdays crackdown really restores order.
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 03, 2011 06:41 AM (AdK6a)
Posted by: Katy Beth at February 03, 2011 06:42 AM (MS9hn)
Posted by: Sparky at February 03, 2011 06:42 AM (MNYI+)
hehe - the just showed a protester wearing a soup pot on his head as a helmet.
Posted by: Annabelle at February 03, 2011 10:37 AM (4kxCX)
No soup for Jooooos!
Posted by: ya2daup at February 03, 2011 10:39 AM (yRrAd)
Never underestimate the power of Cooking Utensils...
Richard the Lionheart was killed by a crossbow bolt, shot by a very young man who had been using a Frying Pan, as a sheild...
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 03, 2011 06:43 AM (AdK6a)
Can't be much because most of them are horribly malnourished due to the constant and steady diet of Obama's manjuice.
Posted by: Fritz at February 03, 2011 06:44 AM (GwPRU)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 03, 2011 06:45 AM (081kp)
Posted by: maddogg at February 03, 2011 06:46 AM (OlN4e)
The Egyptian government is hunting down journalists.
I vote we send them some of ours. In fact, send the whole friggin' MFM
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 03, 2011 06:48 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: Katy Beth at February 03, 2011 06:49 AM (2zwr2)
Posted by: havedash at February 03, 2011 06:50 AM (sFD5n)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at February 03, 2011 06:52 AM (eOXTH)
Posted by: eman at February 03, 2011 06:52 AM (n0WLs)
Posted by: curious at February 03, 2011 06:55 AM (p302b)
Hmmm... wonder about the demographics of the groups...
Muby's supporters showed up yesterday, with camels and horses... Country folk?
Where as the earlier protesters, seemed to be able to congregate mobs very quickly... almost like they lived in the city???
Is there also an Urban vs. Non Urban compnent to this?
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 03, 2011 06:55 AM (AdK6a)
What's the limit on the number of journalists one can bag in a season?
......and how much is the permit?
Posted by: beedubya at February 03, 2011 06:56 AM (AnTyA)
Posted by: curious at February 03, 2011 06:58 AM (p302b)
Posted by: Miss Marple at February 03, 2011 06:58 AM (Fo83G)
Posted by: Sparky at February 03, 2011 10:42 AM (MNYI+)
Most American liberal jews have no interest in Israel. If you say the word "Israel" they will jump through their butt to tell you that Israelis are not necessarily jews and then condemn the israeli jews for being "religious". They are embarassed by and wish to distance themselves from Israel. It's quite extraordinary that after 6000 years, one generation of jews is happy to throw off their birthright and condemn and betray their own history. I'd like to point out to them that the islamists that they favor for their communist/statism are also "religious" and don't give a shit if they adhere to judiasm or not. The muzzies hate jews not for their religion but for their ancestry. They aren't going to give the american jew with their islamo anti-israel sympathies a break for their lib idealology.
Posted by: dagny at February 03, 2011 06:59 AM (ZuJDg)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at February 03, 2011 10:52 AM (eOXTH)
Great mental image! Now that would be funny!
Posted by: havedash at February 03, 2011 07:00 AM (sFD5n)
Posted by: curious at February 03, 2011 07:00 AM (p302b)
Funny though, all of them have their children take the free trips to Israel when they are in college. I think they are legacy trips or birth right trips or something, but no one doesn't take them, they are free trips to Israel, from the government, they all send their kids.
Posted by: curious at February 03, 2011 07:02 AM (p302b)
Posted by: curious at February 03, 2011 11:00 AM (p302b)
And sadly one of the true charges the Islamists can lay at our feet, as that we have, and continue, meddled in the internal politics of countries of the Mid East.
We see it as a needed security measure... they see it as an intrusion of their Sovereinity... but its hard to defend against that charge... when we Mouth off constantly about self determination, but then install, or pull down, Governments.
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 03, 2011 07:03 AM (AdK6a)
Posted by: J. Patrick Doyle at February 03, 2011 07:05 AM (p302b)
I guess it would depend on where they are coming from. If they are already in the Red Sea they would have to come fairly close to Somolia to get out into the ocean? Somolia is the south side of the Gulf of Aden.
Posted by: dagny at February 03, 2011 07:05 AM (ZuJDg)
This isn't necessarily new. During the time of the Maccabees, many Jews in Jerusalem had embraced the Hellenism (and religion) of their Greek conquerors. They actively tried to suppress the practice of the Jewish religion.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at February 03, 2011 07:05 AM (TpXEI)
Posted by: Miss Marple at February 03, 2011 07:06 AM (Fo83G)
Posted by: J. Patrick Doyle at February 03, 2011 07:08 AM (p302b)
Posted by: Lincolntf at February 03, 2011 07:09 AM (hUf/c)
Posted by: dagny at February 03, 2011 10:33 AM (ZuJDg
Great! Nothing like an epic Plague of the Frogs in Biblical proportions.
Posted by: runningrn at February 03, 2011 07:09 AM (ihSHD)
Posted by: Mr. Sar Kastik at February 03, 2011 07:10 AM (8fiyZ)
Posted by: curious at February 03, 2011 07:12 AM (p302b)
Funny though, all of them have their children take the free trips to Israel when they are in college. I think they are legacy trips or birth right trips or something, but no one doesn't take them, they are free trips to Israel, from the government, they all send their kids.
My nephew's San Francisco, secular jewish Harvard lawyer libtard bitch wife, is the daughter of Israeli emmigrants. Her grandparents went there in the 40s. Her mother was raised in a kabutz and they all speak fluent Hebrew. In fact, daughter has current job because of her Hebrew. Her grandparents live there. YET, they are anti-israel in their US policy opinion, pro-commie. Told me El Al should be "nationalized" so poor people could fly too, like the poor Palestinians. They reflect the opinion of the rest of the Palo Alto freaks. Horrifed that anyone think they actually practice judiasm. Ugh.
Posted by: dagny at February 03, 2011 07:12 AM (ZuJDg)
Posted by: Lincolntf at February 03, 2011 11:09 AM (hUf/c)
If Egypt had a Second Amendment? Yes...
Since it does not... Government Crackdown will continue...
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 03, 2011 07:13 AM (AdK6a)
_________
I'm not wondering about it.
Posted by: Anachronda at February 03, 2011 07:14 AM (IrbU4)
#57 I wonder if the camel and horse brigade are the Bedouins. Normally, you don't want to mess with them - We had a bunch camped out near Ahli hospital when we lived in Doha
Posted by: Katy Beth at February 03, 2011 07:14 AM (2zwr2)
This stuff that Breitbart got that Beck is playing is vitriolic rhetoric to the max and they are the libs/dems.
Posted by: curious at February 03, 2011 07:14 AM (p302b)
Posted by: Chris Matthews at February 03, 2011 07:15 AM (SJ6/3)
Posted by: Mr. Sar Kastik at February 03, 2011 11:10 AM (8fiyZ)
They come out and many do the Properly apporved Right turns, just like my bosses at Fed X say you are supposed to do!
Posted by: Friend in Shipping at February 03, 2011 07:16 AM (AdK6a)
This isn't necessarily new. During the time of the Maccabees, many Jews in Jerusalem had embraced the Hellenism (and religion) of their Greek conquerors. They actively tried to suppress the practice of the Jewish religion.
Sure. I'm convinced that part of the reason the Sanhedrin condemned Christ so readily was that they thought he was one of the Zealots which would cause trouble with the Romans.
Posted by: dagny at February 03, 2011 07:16 AM (ZuJDg)
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at February 03, 2011 07:17 AM (xdHzq)
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at February 03, 2011 07:18 AM (SJ6/3)
Posted by: joncelli at February 03, 2011 07:19 AM (RD7QR)
I was watching the stone throwers and I thought "haven't these people heard of slingshots, they are not hard to make". Is that bad of me?
David killed Goliath with a sling. David was a Joo. Can't have pure Muslims using dirty Jooish weapons.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 03, 2011 07:19 AM (TAjuH)
Posted by: Katy Beth at February 03, 2011 07:20 AM (2zwr2)
Why isn't anyone on the right talking about what we are NOT hearing in the Egypt story?
It is a good example of Republicans walking-the-walk when it comes to "politics stops at the water's edge", one that the Democrats never emulate. I mean of course that we are NOT hearing a steady stream of Republican politicians in the media, talking about how flawed the President's response to the crisis is, and how the crisis should have been foreseen, and of course prevented. And thus of we do not see the media then runing with those stories, conducting interviews with "experts" to validate the spin, and evolving them until they become THE story.
The right should be making this point - we put country first and do not succumb to the temptation to use every world crisis as a club to beat our political opponents. It is a simple and clear example of the contrasts between the politics of the left and the right.
So the good news is that when we have a Democrat in office we not only get more positive economic news, but we let the President and his team work our foreign policy to the advantage of the country. The bad news: that is not always the priority of a Democrat President, or within his abilities!
Posted by: sherlock at February 03, 2011 07:20 AM (JYBAr)
This stuff that Breitbart got that Beck is playing is vitriolic rhetoric to the max and they are the libs/dems.
Posted by: curious at February 03, 2011 11:14 AM (p302b)
Hmm.... well... apparently she is a loon... for not only could Beck choose me to Champion his cause... as a Justicar (or Judicial Fencer) because of his eyesight problems... but as the Challenged party HE could choose the weapons...
Thus... me... her... Case of Rapiers?
SeaWolf, Black Scarf, Band of Black Tigers
Posted by: Friend in Shipping at February 03, 2011 07:20 AM (AdK6a)
Don't worry folks, France is taking the lead.
You say that like it's a bad thing - I mean, could they really do any worse than obama.
Think about it - this country might be better off with the leader of....France.
*hangs head in shame*
Posted by: Roadking at February 03, 2011 07:20 AM (3kYoP)
Posted by: Zombie Willhelm Sutton at February 03, 2011 07:20 AM (EGXE5)
Posted by: Friend in Shipping at February 03, 2011 11:20 AM (AdK6a)
OHHHH!!! Epic Sock Failure...
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 03, 2011 07:21 AM (AdK6a)
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Yes, the rift would have to be within the Govt./Army, of course. The people in the sticks (dunes?) of Egypt won't have any say.
Posted by: Lincolntf at February 03, 2011 07:21 AM (hUf/c)
Zoros? Ah yes, one of my best studenten.
Posted by: Zombie Willhelm Sutton at February 03, 2011 11:20 AM (EGXE5)
Mein too.
Posted by: Zombie Reinhard Heydrich at February 03, 2011 07:24 AM (TAjuH)
Send him "back to the fields?" "String him up?" wow. These people are the heirs of Hitler.
Posted by: ABC, NBC, CBS, NYT, AP, WP... at February 03, 2011 07:24 AM (LH6ir)
My nephew's San Francisco, secular jewish Harvard lawyer libtard bitch wife, is the daughter of Israeli emmigrants. Her grandparents went there in the 40s. Her mother was raised in a kabutz and they all speak fluent Hebrew. In fact, daughter has current job because of her Hebrew. Her grandparents live there. YET, they are anti-israel in their US policy opinion, pro-commie. Told me El Al should be "nationalized" so poor people could fly too, like the poor Palestinians. They reflect the opinion of the rest of the Palo Alto freaks. Horrifed that anyone think they actually practice judiasm. Ugh.
Posted by: dagny at February 03, 2011 11:12 AM (ZuJDg)
Well, that makes sense since kibbutznics tend to be died-in-the-wool true believer socialists. Even though pretty much all the kibbutzim were total failures, and have since turned into moshavim (where people own their own farming land) or been broken up and sold outright.
It's odd that the kibbutzim, as wildly left-wing as they were, tended to produce a hugely disproportionate number of Israel's elite fighters - something like 30% of the elite units were kibbutznics even though they only made up around 2% of the population. I always figured that this was due to the fact that they were farmers and farm life just builds heartier people.
The things they used to do on the kibbutaim were so far left that even American socialists would be shocked - like they used to take kids away from their parents very early to all be raised together in the "children's house". That particularly weird experiment was eventually rejected by all the kibbutzim after a generation or two. Kibbutzim also used to rotate everyone through every job, basically, trying to be as equal as possible - which is one of the reasons why the kibbutzim were all total failures. That piece of leftist wisdom was also abandoned, though not as quickly as the child one.
Even so, former kibbutznics still tend to be wildly left in their politics.
Posted by: iknowtheleft at February 03, 2011 07:24 AM (N49h9)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at February 03, 2011 07:24 AM (LH6ir)
Q: Are there bag limits?
I say we get them all while there is a chance. Imagine, you could rid the planet of some substantial carbon dioxide.
Posted by: Marcus at February 03, 2011 07:24 AM (CHrmZ)
I was not a big GWB fan but the man couldn't take a crap without every dem/lib congressman or senator piling on.
I think that John was summoned to make sure the republicans/conservatives continue to keep their mouths shut. It is sad to watch. We independents have realized there is one political class, made up of two parties, for a long time.
Posted by: curious at February 03, 2011 07:25 AM (p302b)
Posted by: Ishmael Jackson at February 03, 2011 07:26 AM (xs5wK)
Think about it - this country might be better off with the leader of....France.
*hangs head in shame*
Sarkozy is pretty frickn' awesome for a Frog. He's even bringing his hawt left-wing wife around to the dark side.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 03, 2011 07:26 AM (TAjuH)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at February 03, 2011 10:28 AM (eOXTH)
Eight people in a pickup truck here in OK just screams illegal Mexicans.
Posted by: Soona at February 03, 2011 07:27 AM (N2GVy)
Posted by: joeindc44 at February 03, 2011 07:27 AM (QxSug)
Posted by: curious at February 03, 2011 11:25 AM (p302b)
don't usually do this... but Fixed it for me... LOL...
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 03, 2011 07:28 AM (AdK6a)
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at February 03, 2011 11:17 AM
They throw like a bunch of soccer players. If anyone gets hit, it's because they are standing too close together.
Posted by: huerfano at February 03, 2011 07:29 AM (QgmBR)
I'd like one of those Egyptian journalist hunting licenses.
Heh! As I read that, I could hear John F'n Kerry's voice!
Posted by: runningrn at February 03, 2011 07:29 AM (ihSHD)
Sarkozy is pretty frickn' awesome for a Frog.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 03, 2011 11:26 AM (TAjuH)
That's only because he really isn't a Frog. Even so, he's still pretty nutty by normal standards. But, we'll take what we can get.
Posted by: iknowtheleft at February 03, 2011 07:29 AM (N49h9)
like they used to take kids away from their parents very early to all be raised together in the "children's house"
The mother of the horrorstory may have been the victim of that. I have never met a more neurotic person in my life. It's amazing the damage you can do to a child by separating it from its mother.
Posted by: dagny at February 03, 2011 07:29 AM (ZuJDg)
Posted by: curious at February 03, 2011 07:30 AM (p302b)
According to Al Jazeera, the Egyptian Central Bank has just imposed a withdrawal limit of $10,000 on all banks in order to prevent a systemic bank run that will promptly wipe out what is left of the financial system. Look for this number to be cut to $100 in the first several minutes after banks reopen (whenever that actually happens).
Coming soon to a country near you.
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at February 03, 2011 07:30 AM (xdHzq)
Posted by: joeindc44 at February 03, 2011 11:27 AM (QxSug)
they build them under License from America... with American Help... and yes, they are upgraded to M1A2 SEP specs... so pretty dang good tanks.
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 03, 2011 07:30 AM (AdK6a)
I just saw an image from AP about the Egyptian army quelling the riots or whatever. It looked like they have an M1 tank? How does Egypt get that tank?
They build 'em under license with downgraded armor & systems. Not as capable as the true-blue American versions, but far superior to the average SovBloc T72/T80 you see in the third world.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 03, 2011 07:31 AM (TAjuH)
Posted by: Reactionary at February 03, 2011 07:31 AM (xUM1Q)
Please, your changing of my words is funny, however, those words are now attributed to me and I didn't write them.
Do you understand where I am coming from?
Posted by: curious at February 03, 2011 07:32 AM (p302b)
Eight people in a pickup truck here in OK just screams illegal Mexicans.
Posted by: Soona at February 03, 2011 11:27 AMThat and the name "Enrique" emblazoned across the windshield.
Posted by: huerfano at February 03, 2011 07:32 AM (QgmBR)
I'm puzzled as to why corn futures would go up as a result of unrest in Egypt. They're an importer, not an exporter. If anything I assume this mess will diminish their buying power, rather than increase it.
Dagny's right. They're getting ready to up the ethanol production. Ethanol/Bio-diesel--responsible for more world hunger and food shortages than any recent famine.
Posted by: runningrn at February 03, 2011 07:34 AM (ihSHD)
Posted by: Reactionary at February 03, 2011 11:31 AM (xUM1Q)
You have cause and effect backwards.... one of the things that historicly create unrest are food price increases... and some say that food prices in Egypt helped spark this Protest movement.
French Revolution, Hitler's rise to power, Russian Revolution... all happened when food prices spiked, so people lost trust in the Governments ability.
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 03, 2011 07:35 AM (AdK6a)
Posted by: dagny at February 03, 2011 11:32 AM (ZuJDg)
I'm all in favor of it. It makes a perfect after-dinner drink. And I don't have to hide the bottles around the house. My car becomes a traveling bar!
Posted by: Kitty Dukakis at February 03, 2011 07:35 AM (N49h9)
Posted by: joeindc44 at February 03, 2011 07:35 AM (QxSug)
That would make a YouTube viral keeper.
At least for me.
Posted by: ontherocks at February 03, 2011 07:36 AM (HBqDo)
Q: Are there bag limits?
I say we get them all while there is a chance. Imagine, you could rid the planet of some substantial carbon dioxide.
Posted by: Marcus at February 03, 2011 11:24 AM (CHrmZ)
All except for Megyn Kelly. She's mine. I'll take care of her myself.
Posted by: Soona at February 03, 2011 07:36 AM (N2GVy)
Don't worry, they are not equipped with slingshots.
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at February 03, 2011 07:36 AM (xdHzq)
I'm puzzled as to why corn futures would go up as a result of unrest in Egypt.
Ethanol, I'd think. Increased petroleum prices make ethanol more attractive as an additive to stretch gas supplies.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 03, 2011 07:37 AM (TAjuH)
Posted by: Lincolntf at February 03, 2011 07:38 AM (hUf/c)
It looked like they have an M1 tank? How does Egypt get that tank?
Don't worry, they are not equipped with slingshots.
How about longbows?
*ducks*
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 03, 2011 07:38 AM (TAjuH)
corn futures and ethanol and global warming - if the New World Order can't kill off "those people" via war and disease, they'll just have to starve them. The Left is pure evil
Posted by: Katy Beth at February 03, 2011 07:39 AM (2zwr2)
Let's not go lose our heads here.
Posted by: Cherry π at February 03, 2011 07:39 AM (+sBB4)
Posted by: Cherry π at February 03, 2011 07:40 AM (+sBB4)
It looked like they have an M1 tank? How does Egypt get that tank?
Don't worry, they are not equipped with slingshots.
How about longbows?
*ducks*
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 03, 2011 11:38 AM (TAjuH)
NO, I don't think we gave them the Apache Longbow variant...
/snark...
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 03, 2011 07:41 AM (AdK6a)
Simple: because they can. It should be clear by now that the commodities market fluctuates according to the desire of traders to make hay off any unrest or natural occurrence anywhere in the world.
Look at oil prices. Every time the rumors are spread that "prices will go higher" because of this or that -- a hurricane, a spill, riots in Dogshitistan -- bingo! they go up.
Profits for the paper-shuffling leeches, a little more hardship for the rest of us.
Posted by: MrScribbler© at February 03, 2011 07:44 AM (Ulu3i)
Posted by: joeindc44 at February 03, 2011 07:44 AM (QxSug)
Did the climate change, or are agricultural practices too backward to support their current population?
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at February 03, 2011 07:45 AM (TpXEI)
Posted by: Anderson Cooper at February 03, 2011 07:45 AM (pr+up)
Posted by: huerfano at February 03, 2011 11:32 AM (QgmBR)
That would be part of our illegal French/Mexican population.
Posted by: Soona at February 03, 2011 07:45 AM (N2GVy)
Posted by: joncelli at February 03, 2011 07:46 AM (RD7QR)
Did the climate change, or are agricultural practices too backward to support their current population?
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at February 03, 2011 11:45 AM (TpXEI)
Population increase. In 14 AD the entire Roman Empire was less than 5 million people... Today Cairo by itself is 17 Million...
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 03, 2011 07:47 AM (AdK6a)
During all this chaos I am surprised that there is not the usual toting of the AK47 and such let alone being used on each other. Excuse my ignorance but does Egypt have some kind of strict gun law ? Is it personal restraint or what ?
It is/ was nice to not see the brutal killing and slaughtering of people by the religion of peace but how long before it gets really deadly ugly?
Posted by: melvin at February 03, 2011 07:47 AM (3OCZw)
We should be listening in much the same way to George Soros and, say, Liza Minelli or Paul Tagliabue regarding Egypt policy: Not at all.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 03, 2011 07:48 AM (B+qrE)
I was watching the stone throwers and I thought "haven't these people heard of slingshots, they are not hard to make". Is that bad of me?
They throw a lot like our President, too.
Posted by: garrett at February 03, 2011 07:48 AM (jB/TO)
Look at oil prices. Every time the rumors are spread that "prices will go higher" because of this or that -- a hurricane, a spill, riots in Dogshitistan -- bingo! they go up.
Profits for the paper-shuffling leeches, a little more hardship for the rest of us.
Yes, it's all just a giant conspiracy. Please give it a rest. I note that I do not hear this angle when prices go down.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 03, 2011 07:50 AM (B+qrE)
Posted by: Nighthawk at February 03, 2011 07:50 AM (RSqz2)
Posted by: melvin at February 03, 2011 11:47 AM (3OCZw)
Civilians cannot own long guns (rifles and such)
Pistols are tightly controlled, and you must proove you have an actual need before you can get a license.
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 03, 2011 07:51 AM (AdK6a)
A: (hint: starts with "I") ...and endss with " 'slam your head into the wall if you don't put that Birka back on, bitch' ".
Posted by: garrett at February 03, 2011 07:52 AM (jB/TO)
Posted by: dagny at February 03, 2011 07:53 AM (ZuJDg)
Posted by: Nighthawk at February 03, 2011 11:50 AM (RSqz2)
Actualy, if'n I remember correctly... the Nile used to Flood, and replenish the soil in the Nile basin... but with modern flood control the soil quality is eroding...
Modern farming methods can overcome this... but key word is "modern".
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 03, 2011 07:54 AM (AdK6a)
Re corn, quite a few interesting answers. I assume that the ethanol boost probably did more for the price than the unrest, but given that commodity speculation can be triggered by almost anything I suppose it will never be totally clear. I guess the upshot is that those idiots in Egypt will need to figure out how to restore the fertility of the Nile Delta (which they destroyed in the name of hydroelectric power). Looks like lots of folks have time to screw around in street protests - sending them back to the farm might be a good way to occupy their time.
I doubt that the corn price will stay up long. The government's been paying farmers to leave land sitting doing nothing - I suspect a lot of that will come back into production in the next couple years at growing become more lucrative than not growing. In the mean time, more $ for US exporters, which is all to the good. Nobody in the US will starve as a result of higher corn price, which is all I care about. The ungrateful foreigners are on their own. At long last. The fewer of them who survive the better - fewer enemies to attack us.
Posted by: Reactionary at February 03, 2011 07:54 AM (xUM1Q)
#156 wins da prize!
Hey, anybody have a link to Churchill's writings on our favorite religion of peace?
Posted by: sherlock at February 03, 2011 07:55 AM (JYBAr)
Civilians cannot own long guns (rifles and such)
Pistols are tightly controlled, and you must proove you have an actual need before you can get a license.
Posted by: Romeo13OK thanks So when the guns magically appear in numbers we can assume all law and order is gone or at least the enforcement part of it. I'm sure that their are efforts under way to introduce them into this conflict.
Posted by: melvin at February 03, 2011 07:56 AM (3OCZw)
Hey, anybody have a link to Churchill's writings on our favorite religion of peace?
Posted by: sherlock at February 03, 2011 11:55 AM (JYBAr)
Churchill in The River War (1899):
How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries.
Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity.
The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the Queen; all know how to die; but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it.
No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science‹the science against which it had vainly struggled‹the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome.
Posted by: iknowtheleft at February 03, 2011 07:58 AM (N49h9)
Posted by: Soona at February 03, 2011 07:59 AM (N2GVy)
Posted by: Reactionary at February 03, 2011 11:54 AM (xUM1Q)
Corn prices are one cause of this protest, IMO, not a result.
Corn futures have been going up for months... due to a combination of Weather, probs in Russia, and Ethanol increase...
Corn is just an indicator of food price increase... but one easy to view.
I've seen numbers that food prices in Egypt have risen more than 20% overall, which in third wold economies is a HUGE part of their living expenses.
And when people start to worry about how they are going to feed their kids, they look for outside blame.. ie, the Government.... and once you loose confidence in the Government? then change.... looking for a form of Govenment who will make it so you can feed your kids... (see Hitler, Stalin, Napoleon... all came into power at times of economic and FOOD crises).
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 03, 2011 08:01 AM (AdK6a)
Posted by: melvin at February 03, 2011 11:56 AM (3OCZw)
Yet another export market for America's manufacturers. We should be selling them AK clones, ammo, magazines, etc. On the sly, of course. Once they go full Sharia Compliant I assume they'll be buying them up like hotcakes, so we should try to beat the rush of suppliers. Of course, we should also sabotage their tank factories. No sense letting them have weapons that are effective in a strategic sense.
Posted by: Reactionary at February 03, 2011 08:01 AM (xUM1Q)
Posted by: iknowtheleft at February 03, 2011 11:58 AM (N49h9)
Yeah, I wonder why Barky returned that bust?
Posted by: garrett at February 03, 2011 08:05 AM (jB/TO)
Weird confluence. CNN is showing a report (for at least the second time) featuring Obama regarding his Christian faith, Fox News is reporting that the report on the Ft. Hood terror attack is circulating and MSNBC is showing the clips of the Camel Brigade.
I have to stop channel surfing or I'm gonna go loopy.
Posted by: Lincolntf at February 03, 2011 08:06 AM (hUf/c)
Yeah, I wonder why Barky returned that bust?
Posted by: garrett at February 03, 2011 12:05 PM (jB/TO)
I'm still amazed that Britain didn't understand what that gesture meant. It's not as if it was subtle. Those Brits are pretty damn dense, these days.
That said, Churchill probably gets the same treatment in Brtain, today, as Bomber Harris. Like they never existed ...
Posted by: iknowtheleft at February 03, 2011 08:08 AM (N49h9)
I'm gonna go loopy
Yea thats what the news does to fill in the down time - they run the same video loops repeatedly non stop while they make sound with their faces.
Posted by: melvin at February 03, 2011 08:09 AM (3OCZw)
Posted by: Chris Matthews at February 03, 2011 11:15 AM (SJ6/3)
Posted by: a jobless keith olbermann at February 03, 2011 08:13 AM (2rOwc)
Posted by: Chris Matthews at February 03, 2011 11:15 AM (SJ6/3)
It doesn't matter. Egypt doesn't have to let super-tankers through their Panama Canal since they can pump enough oil out of their ANWAR Sadat oil fields if they choose.
Posted by: Chris Matthews' Smarter Brother at February 03, 2011 08:17 AM (N49h9)
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at February 03, 2011 08:20 AM (SJ6/3)
They also had tents and things because they were squatting there. It was disgusting, right across from Parliament and Westminster Abbey.
I went and looked at the large statue of Richard the Lion-heart, the Crusader King, which is out in front of the House of Lords. They will probably have to take that down soon. Crusades, you know.
Posted by: Miss Marple at February 03, 2011 08:21 AM (Fo83G)
"The vice president promised that Mubarak's son — Gamal — would not run to succeed his father in presidential elections in September, and prosecutors announced an assets freeze and travel ban on three former minister who were among the most unpopular regime figures."
since they specifically named Gamal, does that mean one of the other sons will be running?
Posted by: curious at February 03, 2011 08:21 AM (p302b)
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at February 03, 2011 08:23 AM (SJ6/3)
Yep. It's really a shame how far the Brits have fallen. When a society is embarrassed about its history - especially a great history - there's nowhere to go but straight down.
Of course, who are we to talk? Our countrymen voted in an America-hating marxist named Hussein into the White House less than a decade after 9/11.
It's enough to make a grown man cry ... even if he isn't John Boehner.
Posted by: iknowtheleft at February 03, 2011 08:27 AM (N49h9)
I went and looked at the large statue of Richard the Lion-heart, the Crusader King, which is out in front of the House of Lords. They will probably have to take that down soon. Crusades, you know.
Yes, because Islams spread spontaneously and peacefully, don't you know.
Bin Laden and his intellectual nitwit cousins never mention the Mongols smacking them around becasue they are afraid they'll come back.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 03, 2011 08:27 AM (B+qrE)
1% of the worlds oil goes through the Suez Canal.
I'm not sure that's accurate. It's around a million barrels a day northbound.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 03, 2011 08:31 AM (B+qrE)
Bin Laden and his intellectual nitwit cousins never mention the Mongols smacking them around becasue they are afraid they'll come back.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 03, 2011 12:27 PM (B+qrE)
And the same Western leftists who get on Europeans for bringing small pox to the New World never seem to mention how the Mongols catapulted plague victims over the walls of Caffa and brought the Black Death to Europe not 200 years before the discovery of the New World.
It's interesting how the plague ended up spurring the greatest period of innovation and development, in Europe, Man had ever seen.
But the lefties always forget to mention these little tidbits.
Posted by: iknowtheleft at February 03, 2011 08:35 AM (N49h9)
I'm still amazed that Britain didn't understand what that gesture meant. It's not as if it was subtle. Those Brits are pretty damn dense, these days.
Oh, the Muzzies in Britain, and around the World, knew what that meant.
I still want to see the LA Times owned Video of Obama speechifying in honour of Rashid Khalidi.
I can't shake the feeling that Obama has always wanted to apply Cloward and Piven to the Arab Street. Since Israel has stymied his attempt at Pali liberation, how else would a Chicago community organiser (read: street thug) go about affecting this problem?
Posted by: FLOTUS to be Sandra Lee? at February 03, 2011 08:44 AM (jB/TO)
The truth is a lot different. For one thing, outside of the crusades he never lived in England. He could not even speak English. He looted the English treasury first for ransom then to build castles in France. All of the evils of taxation attributed to John in Robin Hood were actually the work of Richard.
He died in and is buried in France.
Posted by: Vic at February 03, 2011 08:52 AM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: baldilocks at February 03, 2011 08:52 AM (T2/zQ)
Posted by: SurferDoc at February 03, 2011 08:59 AM (o3bYL)
Posted by: SurferDoc at February 03, 2011 12:59 PM (o3bYL)
Yep. That's true of Western Europe, in general. They like to let things go until they are totally out of hand and then they go totally apeshit in their reaction. You nailed it. We can expect some real ugliness to come from Britain and Europe in the next decade. Really, really ugly.
Posted by: iknowtheleft at February 03, 2011 09:17 AM (N49h9)
Posted by: iknowtheleft at February 03, 2011 01:17 PM (N49h9)
I read an intersting paper awhile back... whose premise was that Zero Tolerance in school for violence, is leading to greater levles of violence when it does happen...
Works like this... a bully pushes you... and you do nothing... the bully then hits you, because he does not care about following the rules anyway, but the victim cares about rules, and so does nothing... eventually it escalates until the poor kid is so scared, and so angry, that he goes nuts on the bully on day.
When intialy, a simple push back would have been sufficient.
This is Western Europe today....
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 03, 2011 09:24 AM (AdK6a)
Posted by: iknowtheleft at February 03, 2011 01:17 PM (N49h9)
Let's hope they still have the spine, and the numbers, to make this happen. If it ever does I'll be eating popcorn, drinking vodka, and watching the news all evening long.
Posted by: Reactionary at February 03, 2011 09:26 AM (xUM1Q)
Let's hope they still have the spine, and the numbers, to make this happen. If it ever does I'll be eating popcorn, drinking vodka, and watching the news all evening long.
Posted by: Reactionary at February 03, 2011 01:26 PM (xUM1Q)
Well... Eastern Europe still has some Cojones... sooo... they have a set of naturual allies there...
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 03, 2011 09:39 AM (AdK6a)
#183 - the atrocities committed by Nazis, by Japanese, by Khmer Rouge and by Muslim radicals pale in comparison to the monstrous atrocities committed by the Mau Mau savages in Africa, all of whom should have been summarily executed for the vicious crimes which they committed against blacks and whites, alike.
BTW, Obama is a liar. His grandfather was punished for his crimes, not tortured, and he got off light, considering that he should have been beheaded for his monstrous crimes. Even when they're savage and merciless butchers like the Mau Mau were, they portray themselves as victims and they stick up for each other. We see it among black inmates in our own prisons. They are immoral.
Posted by: Brian at February 03, 2011 09:48 AM (sYrWB)
Mubarak? Our barak, l'il barry dunham? eh, not so much.
It's sad to watch the evil dictator, who sent security forces to murder and terrorize Christians for 20 years, in his struggle to retain control from the stone flinging, pedophile, whoremonger hermaphrodite moon god worshipping moose-limbs.
I have no idea who to cheer for. I know I'm on the side of the Coptic Christians.
I will neither confirm nor deny the existence of Catholics in Egypt as that would mean a death sentence for them.
But an idea has just arrived. Exactly why does the Marine hymn include a reference to the Barbary Coast? Could it be that we had a good working foreign policy when our perspective on the Eastern Med was seen through the lens of what American interests are in peril and how many Marines will take to secure those interests?
Yea, we should send the Marines. Right after the various factions think they have something settled, show up and give 'em a little education.
Posted by: Blacksmith8 at February 03, 2011 11:31 AM (Q1qy3)
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