December 08, 2011
— Ace Two people went out on a single date, and then the woman blew him off. It happens.
He kept trying to reach her via voicemail, and she didn't return his calls. Rude, but it happens. Non-communication is often perfect communication, at least for those willing to hear the message.
Eventually he tracked down her email by googling her, and wrote her this letter.
I'm cutting out the thousand words or so, because, while they are pathetic and tedious, they are not alarming. I'll start just before he gets into the alarming stuff.
Things that happened during our date include, but are not limited to, the following:-You played with your hair a lot. A woman playing with her hair is a common sign of flirtation. You can even do a google search on it. When a woman plays with her hair, she is preening. I've never had a date where a woman played with her hair as much as you did. In addition, it didn't look like you were playing with your hair out of nervousness.
No, you looked like a hair-playing whore. But I found that charming.
-We had lots of eye contact during our date. On a per-minute basis, I've never had as much eye contact during a date as I did with you.
Generally women recoil from the power of my Intense Drifter Staredown, but you held firm, unafraid.
-You said, "It was nice to meet you." at the end of our date. A woman could say this statement as a way to show that she isn't interested in seeing a man again or she could mean what she said--that it was nice to meet you. The statement, by itself, is inconclusive.
Other statements I find inconclusive, FYI: "Please, no;" "Oh god stop you're hurting me;" and "Where is this? What have you done to my husband?"
-We had a nice conversation over dinner. I don't think I'm being delusional in saying this statement.
But I'll check with my therapist when I see him at the clinic.
In my opinion, leading someone on (i.e., giving mixed signals) is impolite and immature. ItÂ’s bad to do that.Normally, I would not be asking for information if a woman and I don't go out again after a first date. However, in our case, I'm curious because I think our date went well and that there is a lot of potential for a serious relationship. Of course, it's difficult to predict what would happen...
Is it?
Why am I writing you? Well, hopefully, we will go out again. Even if we don't, I gain utility from expressing my thoughts to you. In addition, even if you don't want to go out again, I would like to get feedback as to why you wouldn't want to go again....
Because, seriously, the hair-touching thing. I just cannot get beyond that. I read it in a book and everything.
If you're not interested in going out again, then I would have preferred if you hadn't given those mixed signals. I feel led on.
Led on. Angry. Desperate. As if I have nothing left to lose.
We have a number of things in common.
Fresh, pulpy organs, for example.
IÂ’ll name a few things: First, weÂ’ve both very intelligent. Second, we both like classical music so much that we go to classical music performances by ourselves. In fact, the number one interest that I would want to have in common with a woman with whom IÂ’m in a relationship is a liking of classical music. I wouldnÂ’t be seriously involved with a woman if she didnÂ’t like classical music. You said that you're planning to go the NY Philharmonic more often in the future. As I said, I go to the NY Philharmonic often. You're very busy. It would be very convenient for you to date me because we have the same interests. We already go to classical music performances by ourselves. If we go to classical music performances together, it wouldn't take any significant additional time on your part.
The guy is putting a lot of relationship eggs in the classical music basket.
And I'll bet one or both of them don't even like classical music, but just thought it would look good on a dating profile.
According to the internet, youÂ’re 33 or 32, so, at least from my point of view, weÂ’re a good match in terms of age. I could name more things that we have in common, but IÂ’ll stop here.
But I could go on and on. For example, you prefer Kotex tampons, and throw them out with the trash, rather than separating them into "cloth recyclables." I also am totally lazy about recycling! What a pair are we, LOL.
I donÂ’t understand why you apparently donÂ’t want to go out with me again. We have numerous things in common. I assume that you find me physically attractive. If you didnÂ’t find me physically attractive, then it would have been irrational for you to go out with me in the first place....
Did I mention the classical music?
Am I sensitive person? Sure, I am.
For example, do I cry when I hear a woman scream in pain?
Well, I used to, anyway.
I think it's better to be sensitive than to be insensitive. There are too many impolite, insensitive people in the world.
There are many people, for example, who do not pick up on standard social signals.
I suggest that we continue to go out and see what happens.
Perhaps you will be chopped into tiny pieces with my Courting Axe. Perhaps you won't. That is the excitement of La romantique. You never know if you will end up on the altar at the church, or the altar in my basement, but since you're being a total mixed-signals coozebitch, I'm thinking Satan Pit.
But this could change, madamoiselle. Let me continue to woo you.
Needless to say, I find you less appealing now (given that you havenÂ’t returned my messages) than I did at our first date.
The Satan Pit doesn't fill itself.
However, I would be willing to go out with you again.
Twist my arm, sure. I'll take you out in my Murder Van.
IÂ’m open minded and flexible and am willing to give you the benefit of the doubt.
Tonight, you live.
As for tomorrow? But who can speak of tomorrow, madamoiselle.
I wish you would give me the benefit of the doubt too. If you don't want to go out again, in my opinion, you would be making a big mistake, perhaps one of the biggest mistakes in your life.
Going out with me, and also refusing to go out with me, would be two of the biggest, and last, mistakes of your life.
Choose wisely.
If you donÂ’t want to go out again, then you should have called to tell me so.
Because in many cultures refusing to answer the phone is considered flirtatious, even lascivious. Like touching one's hair, or drumming one's fingers in anxiety and fear.
Even sending a text message would have been better than nothing.
I will kill you in your sleep.
In my opinion, not responding to my messages is impolite, immature, passive aggressive, and cowardly.
Say, what time do you want to get together for our big date?
I spent time, effort, and money meeting you for dinner.
I also bought a big bottle of ether and top-quality ligatures.
Getting back to me in response to my messages would have been a reasonable thing for you to do. In addition, you arrived about 30 minutes late for our date. IÂ’m sure you wouldnÂ’t like it if a man showed up thirty minutes late for a first date with you.
And you showed up smelling of cheap perfume and shame.
I'm checking the schedule right now for The Muppet Movie. That probably has some classical music in it. Fozzie, what a character. LOL.
If you're concerned that you will hurt my feelings by providing specific information about why you don't want to go with me again, well, my feeling are already hurt.
And if you are concerned I will hurt you physically, well, wheels are in motion there, too.
I'm sad and disappointed about this situation.
My mother used to lock me in the closet for days at a time. I imprinted on an ancient, ragged sweater of hers that nevertheless retained some of her essence in the form of sweat and gin.
I would like to put you in said sweater.
If you give information, at least I can understand the situation better. I might even learn something that is beneficial.
Like, for example, your children's school schedule, and what candy they might be attracted to as bait.
If you don't want to go out again, that I request that you call me and make a sincere apology for leading me on (i.e., giving me mixed signals).
What did it mean when you kept texting your friend "Still alive -- for now"? Was that some kind of code for "he's cute"?
In my opinion, you shouldn't act that way toward a man and then not go out with him again. ItÂ’s bad to play with your hair so much and make so much eye contact if youÂ’re not interested in going out with me again.
You should have been brusque and rude to me at the restaurant itself; I would surely have taken such a direct snubbing in stride.
I have tried to write this email well, but it's not perfect.
"Perfect" would be a letter written on fine stationary, in ink I made from gunpowder and tears.
Again, I'm not trying to be harsh, insulting, patronizing, etc.
But you are passive-aggressive, cowardly, and a food-thieving whore.
I'm disappointed, sad, etc. I would like to talk to you on the phone. I hope you will call me back at xxx-xxx-xxxx> (if itÂ’s inconvenient for you to talk on the phone when you read this email, you can let me know via email that you are willing to talk on the phone and IÂ’ll call you). If you get my voicemail, you can a leave a message and I can call you back.
There are any number of modern conveniences which will permit you to communicate with me. Here, let me explain the operation of each, in great detail.
Even if you don't want to go out again, I would appreciate it if you give me the courtesy of calling me and talking to me. Yes, you might say things that hurt me, but my feelings are already hurt.
I feel the Bloody Blues coming on. (wink)
Sending me an email response (instead of talking on the phone) would better than no response at all, but I think it would be better to talk on the phone.
So the list, from least preferable to most preferable, is email, voice mail via phone, live communication via phone, a nice date out seeing some classical music, and, most preferable of all, bathing in your blood before the Children of Babylon.
Email communication has too much potential for misinterpretation, etc.
But I trust I've made my intentions, and my impulses, perfectly plain.
Best, Mike
PS, the shoes I stole from you smell like a whore's. That's another thing that's wrong with you. So we're agreed then -- Muppets at 7:15?
via @jennyerikson
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Posted by: steevy at December 08, 2011 02:40 PM (7WJOC)
Posted by: tcn at December 08, 2011 02:42 PM (hQX3k)
Posted by: Y-not at December 08, 2011 02:42 PM (5H6zj)
...oh and by the way... don't worry, I never try to over analyze things.
Posted by: Creepy Needy Guy at December 08, 2011 02:43 PM (wAQA5)
Posted by: The things you learn on the internet at December 08, 2011 02:45 PM (Wfwje)
Posted by: steevy at December 08, 2011 06:44 PM (7WJOC)
Kratos has been looking particularly desperate since he caved in to decadance a few weeks ago.
Posted by: CAC at December 08, 2011 02:45 PM (7LXvT)
Posted by: 'Mike' at December 08, 2011 02:45 PM (sHY5w)
Someone should have clued him in when he was about 21.
Posted by: Chester Whitenw at December 08, 2011 02:46 PM (0aAK9)
Posted by: Hadji the Muslim Comic at December 08, 2011 02:46 PM (h6mPj)
Posted by: Lloyd Christmas at December 08, 2011 02:47 PM (PwyAv)
Posted by: Jared Loughner at December 08, 2011 02:47 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: joeindc44 - the one true conservative at December 08, 2011 02:47 PM (QxSug)
Posted by: snowcrash at December 08, 2011 02:48 PM (w3YD7)
Posted by: Mike at December 08, 2011 02:48 PM (PwyAv)
Posted by: 'Mike' at December 08, 2011 02:48 PM (sHY5w)
You know... for the dating tips.
Posted by: Dave at Garfield Ridge at December 08, 2011 02:48 PM (gVqQ3)
Posted by: Moe Ron at December 08, 2011 02:50 PM (yWDpP)
Posted by: joeindc44 - the one true conservative at December 08, 2011 02:50 PM (QxSug)
I donÂ’t understand why you apparently donÂ’t want to go out with me again.
Maybe she doesn't want to end up in the crawl space under your house.
Just a thought.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 08, 2011 02:50 PM (m0PhS)
Posted by: jjshaka at December 08, 2011 02:50 PM (t1FFO)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 08, 2011 02:52 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Dr Spank at December 08, 2011 02:53 PM (H/kgP)
Posted by: ace at December 08, 2011 02:53 PM (nj1bB)
It will pass in a year or two fella, put some Neosporin on that hook wound.
Posted by: ontherocks at December 08, 2011 02:54 PM (HBqDo)
This is why we should encourage boys to play contact sports.
Posted by: fluffy at December 08, 2011 02:54 PM (O6q63)
Posted by: Honey Badger at December 08, 2011 02:54 PM (Fr8N6)
Posted by: toby928© at December 08, 2011 02:54 PM (GTbGH)
Posted by: USS Diversity at December 08, 2011 02:55 PM (PddVe)
Posted by: Dr Spank at December 08, 2011 02:55 PM (H/kgP)
he is -please respond to me i think about you every minute of the day and night. even though we only spoke briefly for 30 minutes, i have no idea why you left so quickly, I was only trying to cut some hair off for my memoirs.
Posted by: willow at December 08, 2011 02:56 PM (h+qn8)
Posted by: wooga at December 08, 2011 02:56 PM (vjyZP)
Posted by: steevy at December 08, 2011 06:51 PM (7WJOC)
That would certainly explain the lack of communication on "her" part.
Goats aren't very talkative!
Posted by: Havedash at December 08, 2011 02:56 PM (JfvbF)
Dang, this is better than a movie review!
So the list, from least preferable to most preferable, is email, voice mail via phone, live communication via phone, a nice date out seeing some classical music, and, most preferable of all, bathing in your blood before the Children of Babylon.
Even better - a nice date out bathing in your blood before the Children of Babylon to classical music, say Danse macabre.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at December 08, 2011 02:56 PM (UR5vq)
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 08, 2011 02:56 PM (2oBun)
Posted by: Bill D. Cat at December 08, 2011 02:56 PM (npr0X)
Posted by: Mike at December 08, 2011 02:57 PM (GZitp)
That really is some scary, serial killer shit right there.
In my opinion, you shouldn't act that way toward a man and then not go out with him again. ItÂ’s bad to play with your hair so much and make so much eye contact if youÂ’re not interested in going out with me again.
Like in "it's bad" and you upset me so welcome to the dry well until I can kill you and you can become part of my sexy skin suit.
I hope the FBI is shadowing this guy.
Posted by: ErikW at December 08, 2011 02:57 PM (QzBOX)
Posted by: toby928© at December 08, 2011 02:58 PM (GTbGH)
N'est ce pas?
Posted by: Vote for me and I'll set you free! at December 08, 2011 02:58 PM (xqpQL)
Yeah, this isn't as creepy as you seem to think it is. This guy is borderline autistic or Aspberger's.
And thanks for the plain sherbet palate cleanser between bouts of outrage, Ace.
Posted by: Truman North at December 08, 2011 02:58 PM (I2LwF)
Posted by: Havedash at December 08, 2011 02:58 PM (JfvbF)
No matter how many times I get let down on the political side, the Ace social commentary (re: dating-etiquette-tips) always keep me coming back for more. More enjoyable, spit take, water through the noise, thank God I'm alone, laugh-out-loud per column inch than any other blogger in the business (even if it is, sometimes, nervous laughter).
Posted by: jokin at December 08, 2011 02:59 PM (EVeqO)
Posted by: wooga at December 08, 2011 06:56 PM (vjyZP)
If they were that big, his email would have been simply "fap" typed over 1200 times.
Posted by: CAC at December 08, 2011 02:59 PM (7LXvT)
Why she won't respond to him is beyond me.
Posted by: Unclefacts Out Of Commenting Retirement Just For This One Thing at December 08, 2011 02:59 PM (6IReR)
Posted by: Jame Gumb at December 08, 2011 03:00 PM (rKhgG)
Posted by: steevy at December 08, 2011 03:01 PM (7WJOC)
nerdygirl
:^(
Posted by: andycanuck at December 08, 2011 03:01 PM (sHY5w)
Posted by: snowcrash at December 08, 2011 03:01 PM (w3YD7)
Posted by: Texan Economist at December 08, 2011 03:02 PM (TC/9F)
It's almost like it's directed directly at me, it's as if you want something from me, like a PayPal donation, or sex.
Posted by: Dr Spank at December 08, 2011 03:02 PM (H/kgP)
Was that the letter AllahPundit wrote to Kirsten Powers?
Posted by: el mao at December 08, 2011 03:02 PM (RZ5o3)
I had a first date this summer with this woman, we exchanged a few texts and had a few phone conversations, a few of them were a bit flirtatious even. So we had lunch at this little deli, I thought things went fine. Not terrific, but at least second-date worthy. Afterwards - I just got one abrupt text that she wasn't interested, and that was that. So maybe she sent some super-secret hidden body language code that my analytical nerd brain couldn't pick up. But I didn't try to track her down or stalk her or anything, at least I had sense enough not to do that.
So, yeah, I hope Mike does find someone.
Posted by: chemjeff at December 08, 2011 03:02 PM (s7mIC)
Posted by: Max Entropy at December 08, 2011 03:03 PM (i4Zbb)
But what really get them hot is parking your car across the street and waiting.
Posted by: Clutch Cargo at December 08, 2011 03:03 PM (8/+nB)
Posted by: soothie at December 08, 2011 07:01 PM (DlaLh)
Spoiler- the team that lost to the Ravens twice beats the Cleveland steamers.
There, now you can spend your three hours fapping like usual.
Posted by: CAC at December 08, 2011 03:03 PM (7LXvT)
Yeah, this isn't as creepy as you seem to think it is. This guy is borderline autistic or Aspberger's.
Posted by: Truman North at December 08, 2011 06:58 PM (I2LwF)
Definitely.
Posted by: Grey Fox, team Solomon Kane at December 08, 2011 03:04 PM (sEvRn)
Posted by: snowcrash at December 08, 2011 07:01 PM (w3YD7)
That might drive me to homicide too.
Posted by: ErikW at December 08, 2011 03:04 PM (QzBOX)
"bathing in your blood before the Children of Babylon."
That is SO0ooooo Classic. You gotta tell that story ACE. Make it a Christmas Tradition!
Posted by: hutch1200 at December 08, 2011 03:04 PM (XouHj)
Posted by: Mike at December 08, 2011 03:05 PM (GZitp)
Posted by: ace at December 08, 2011 03:05 PM (nj1bB)
Posted by: The Jackhole at December 08, 2011 03:06 PM (nTgAI)
That might drive me to homicide too.
Posted by: ErikW at December 08, 2011 07:04 PM (QzBOX)
Worse, he was listening to Baltimora's Tarzan's Boy. Looped. For the last six years.
Posted by: CAC at December 08, 2011 03:06 PM (7LXvT)
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at December 08, 2011 03:06 PM (+lsX1)
There, now you can spend your three hours fapping like usual.
Three hours? I can't fap 120 times a day!!!
Posted by: Truman North at December 08, 2011 03:06 PM (I2LwF)
Posted by: Keith Arnold at December 08, 2011 03:06 PM (Jdtsu)
Posted by: Bill Clinton at December 08, 2011 03:06 PM (BbX1b)
And a directional microphone and spy drones that are able to get video feeds from inside the house...oh dear, I'm giving away too many secrets of the craft, aren't I?
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at December 08, 2011 03:06 PM (UR5vq)
You go, Ch- uh- Mike.
Posted by: slug at December 08, 2011 03:07 PM (vVv3V)
Posted by: GMB who has changed his mind and now hopes for a Perry comeback at December 08, 2011 03:07 PM (wY55N)
Yeah, this isn't as creepy as you seem to think it is. This guy is borderline autistic or Aspberger's.
Posted by: Truman North at December 08, 2011 06:58 PM (I2LwF)
Okay. Are you gonna let a loved one go on a date with him?
I sure as fuck won't.
Posted by: ErikW at December 08, 2011 03:07 PM (QzBOX)
Posted by: Mike at December 08, 2011 03:07 PM (GTbGH)
I used to end these letters "Make your peace with God now, whore" but it was hard to get second dates that way. And when I did get second dates they were dead, and that's no fun. I like good conversation. Okay, there was that one girl who wouldn't shut up even after three months on the sofa and yes maybe that was because I couldn't keep the jaw closed but it still got annoying and even though the sex was okay I still had to get rid of her.
So anyway, now I just use "Best".
Posted by: Mike at December 08, 2011 03:07 PM (PwyAv)
Posted by: Dang at December 08, 2011 03:08 PM (BbX1b)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at December 08, 2011 03:08 PM (SH3gZ)
Yeah but you understood. it happens. most people should NOT be going out with each other, so a lot of dates will end up as nothing. as they should.
Women and men too have to understand there is no such thing as "mixed signals." Mixed signals = no.
Anyone who's interested will make it happen. if they're not making it happen, it's a no.
Posted by: ace at December 08, 2011 07:05 PM (nj1bB)
Definitely...
Posted by: The Jackhole at December 08, 2011 03:08 PM (nTgAI)
Posted by: Less at December 08, 2011 03:08 PM (PGXeZ)
I don't believe in nagging outside of the bonds of marriage.
Posted by: AmishDude at December 08, 2011 03:08 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Truman North at December 08, 2011 03:09 PM (I2LwF)
Three hours? I can't fap 120 times a day!!!
Posted by: Truman North at December 08, 2011 07:06 PM (I2LwF)
Three minutes of fapping, followed by one hundred and seventy two minutes of crying, followed by three minutes of fapping.
The ghosts that watch you fap told me, in case you were getting creeped out.
Posted by: CAC at December 08, 2011 03:09 PM (7LXvT)
Posted by: call me , Mike at December 08, 2011 03:10 PM (npr0X)
I'm with you there (hey, we're both chemists, what are the odds?). However, I'm also the father of 4 daughters of dating age, so find this a whole lot less funny than some will. My sister went through something similar with a guy who turned out to be a real nutbar, and my other sister had to deal with a guy pumping the platypus in the bushes outside her apartment.
Seriously, guys, get a grip. You know what I mean.
Posted by: pep at December 08, 2011 03:10 PM (6TB1Z)
If I was a psychologist or a psychiatrist or another one of those psy-y type people, I could retire with this guy as a patient...
...to my own private island in the Bahamas and a perpetual supply of those drinks in the coconuts with the little umbrellas in them.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, working towards full Curmudgeonhood at December 08, 2011 03:10 PM (d0Tfm)
Posted by: Morgan at December 08, 2011 03:11 PM (hqlrn)
Okay. Are you gonna let a loved one go on a date with him?
No. My daughter, who is 7, already has a spot reserved in a convent on a remote Greek island.
So maybe it's not this guy, but dating in general, that I'm against. Being a man, I know what we're interested in, and my daughter is definitely off-limits.
Posted by: Truman North at December 08, 2011 03:11 PM (I2LwF)
Posted by: Lady in Black at December 08, 2011 03:11 PM (ycuSb)
Posted by: Jerry Sandusky at December 08, 2011 03:12 PM (AZGON)
my other sister had to deal with a guy pumping the platypus in the bushes outside her apartment.
I told you, my platypus had a slow leak.
Posted by: Guy in the bushes... at December 08, 2011 03:12 PM (p/j8z)
Posted by: MIKE at December 08, 2011 03:12 PM (H/kgP)
Posted by: fyi , Mike at December 08, 2011 03:12 PM (npr0X)
But when you bury a person close to a tree, it will blossom as it slowly feeds upon their soul. Here. I got you some potpourri.
Posted by: Dang at December 08, 2011 03:12 PM (BbX1b)
Isn't Mike the guy from dontevenreply.com?
Emails From an Asshole. I never fail to bust out laughing.
Posted by: USS Diversity at December 08, 2011 03:12 PM (PddVe)
Posted by: Jeffrey Dahmer at December 08, 2011 03:13 PM (QKKT0)
Posted by: best, Mike at December 08, 2011 03:14 PM (nj1bB)
Posted by: thirtyandseven at December 08, 2011 03:14 PM (/0bHq)
Worse, he was listening to Baltimora'sTarzan's Boy. Looped. For the last six years.
Posted by: CAC at December 08, 2011 07:06 PM (7LXvT)
That's the worst video I've ever seen. Did he get his makeup advice from Grace Jones?
Posted by: ErikW at December 08, 2011 03:14 PM (QzBOX)
Aspies can't read body language well, and have to learn it almost like a foreign language. What this poor guy probably did was to read through all those guides out there on how to flirt, memorized the signs, and then looked for them. What he didn't grasp is that body language is variable depending on person and circumstance, and that he needed to look for a preponderance of evidence, not just a single sign.
Posted by: Grey Fox, team Solomon Kane at December 08, 2011 03:15 PM (sEvRn)
No dice. Tried it and all I got from that was a family of raccoons. Though in hindsight, they were much better lays than the bitch anyway.
Posted by: Ekim at December 08, 2011 03:16 PM (PwyAv)
Posted by: derit at December 08, 2011 03:16 PM (FQlFL)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at December 08, 2011 03:17 PM (AZGON)
P.P.S. - You should really crack a window when you shower.
That much humidity trapped in your upstairs bathroom can lead to mold issues down the road.
Posted by: Best, Mike at December 08, 2011 03:17 PM (p/j8z)
Posted by: blaster at December 08, 2011 03:17 PM (Fw2Gg)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at December 08, 2011 03:18 PM (SH3gZ)
What he didn't grasp is that body language is variable depending on person and circumstance, and that he needed to look for a preponderance of evidence, not just a single sign.
Posted by: Grey Fox, team Solomon Kane at December 08, 2011 07:15 PM (sEvRn)
So a bad case of head lice could be interpreted as "I want you to bang me like a screen door"?
Posted by: Havedash at December 08, 2011 03:18 PM (JfvbF)
I wonder if any studies have been done as to how many stalker types (stalkists??) may well be Aspies?
Because, yes, this could be seen as creepy, but it is also textbook Asperger's. Dude could just be a harmless dork. I have taken a few under my wing and tried to teach them how to dance and behave somewhat normally in social situations. Perfectly sweet and harmless guys, but I did eventually have to find them someone else to obsess over.
The problem is knowing whether they are just off, or full-blown psychos.
Posted by: MissTammy at December 08, 2011 03:18 PM (SsG4J)
Posted by: Mike at December 08, 2011 03:19 PM (npr0X)
Posted by: snowcrash at December 08, 2011 03:19 PM (w3YD7)
Posted by: Christina Hendricks' Mighty Jugs Supports Rick Perry's Hair for President at December 08, 2011 03:19 PM (4o3YT)
Posted by: DOCTOR amy bishop!!!11!!! at December 08, 2011 03:19 PM (sHY5w)
Posted by: best, Mike at December 08, 2011 03:19 PM (nj1bB)
Posted by: AmishDude at December 08, 2011 07:08 PM (T0NGe)
Single and loving it!
Posted by: ErikW at December 08, 2011 03:19 PM (QzBOX)
Posted by: Lady in Black at December 08, 2011 03:19 PM (ycuSb)
Why would I harm a perfectly good sperm receptor? THINK!!
Posted by: MIKE at December 08, 2011 03:20 PM (H/kgP)
Good to know.
OK, Ace. Give me another one. This is gold, baby. Gold!
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at December 08, 2011 03:20 PM (eHIJJ)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at December 08, 2011 03:21 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: Lady in Black at December 08, 2011 07:19 PM (ycuSb)
Oh, right. You think I'm finished with you.
Posted by: Mike at December 08, 2011 03:21 PM (PwyAv)
Posted by: Christina Hendricks' Mighty Jugs Supports Rick Perry's Hair for President at December 08, 2011 03:23 PM (4o3YT)
Posted by: dogfish at December 08, 2011 03:23 PM (N2yhW)
Posted by: best, Mike at December 08, 2011 03:23 PM (nj1bB)
Posted by: Lady in Black at December 08, 2011 07:19 PM (ycuSb)
From my own experience, that is the worst possible thing you could do. A polite but firm explanation is far better, and keeps the man in question from 1) wasting his time trying to figure out what you are doing 2) thinking that you were just leading him on when he does figure out that you aren't interested.
Posted by: Grey Fox, team Solomon Kane at December 08, 2011 03:24 PM (sEvRn)
Posted by: fyi , Mike at December 08, 2011 03:24 PM (npr0X)
TEASE!!!!!!!111!1!!!!
Posted by: Vote for me and I'll set you free! at December 08, 2011 03:24 PM (xqpQL)
Posted by: Rex the Wonder God at December 08, 2011 03:24 PM (vahvH)
...and also, I noticed that your toenail clippings are brittle (and really infrequent). You might want to think about getting yourself on a supplement regiment. A good multi-vitamin should help.
Call me.
Posted by: Best, Mike at December 08, 2011 03:25 PM (p/j8z)
Posted by: ace at December 08, 2011 03:25 PM (nj1bB)
Posted by: Robert, movie conny-surrr at December 08, 2011 03:25 PM (F79HU)
Posted by: The Robot Devil at December 08, 2011 03:25 PM (GaIwz)
Posted by: ontherocks at December 08, 2011 03:25 PM (HBqDo)
Posted by: Dante at December 08, 2011 03:26 PM (DfNBe)
Posted by: best, Mike at December 08, 2011 03:26 PM (nj1bB)
This crackpot reminds me of a guy I worked with, at two different companies. I was his boss at company #1 and then several months after being "laid off" from company #2 (the company was afraid he might go postal and was afraid to straight out fire him), I got a long rambling email from him.
He accused me of being behind his ouster (I was brought in to replace him, unbeknownst to me at the time), among other insults and accusations. He had obviously been stewing about things for a long time, referencing things that happened nearly 10 years before.
The kicker is, at the end of this email he asked me for a letter of recommendation. Seriously.
These guys must be brothers or something. Or think insulting and scaring the crap out of a woman will get her to like him. Righty-o.
Posted by: Mayday at December 08, 2011 03:26 PM (orrLR)
Posted by: franksalterego at December 08, 2011 03:26 PM (9XykO)
Is it bad that I was playing with my hair while reading this? I apparently flirt a lot.
If I were this girl I'd request the witness protection program or to stay in hiding with Casey Anthony taking Spanish classes.
Posted by: ChristyBlinky at December 08, 2011 03:27 PM (baL2B)
Hee hee. A "letter".
Posted by: Obama Scratching His Chin With His Middle Finger on National Television at December 08, 2011 03:27 PM (PwyAv)
Posted by: steevy at December 08, 2011 06:51 PM (7WJOC)
He sounds like someone with Asperger's Syndrome. AND he sounds like a Muslim. Coincidence? I think not!!
Posted by: kathysaysso at December 08, 2011 03:27 PM (ZtwUX)
Posted by: Mike at December 08, 2011 03:27 PM (vVv3V)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at December 08, 2011 03:27 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: Murder VanCreepy at December 08, 2011 03:27 PM (eHIJJ)
*sighs*, you got me. It's all ruined, thanks to you!
Next time, I will incorporate that "Children of Babylon" line and ditch the whole classical music bit - nobody buys that anymore. I should have figured that out 18 tries ago... maybe recasting myself as a secret billionaire ought to help!
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at December 08, 2011 03:28 PM (UR5vq)
Posted by: dogfish at December 08, 2011 03:28 PM (N2yhW)
Posted by: Christina Hendricks' Mighty Jugs Supports Rick Perry's Hair for President at December 08, 2011 03:28 PM (4o3YT)
Posted by: Clubber Lang at December 08, 2011 03:29 PM (QcFbt)
Maybe with the marginal types, the ones they suck validaiton from.
Damn.
That there is true, 20/20, fucking insight.
Posted by: garrett at December 08, 2011 03:29 PM (p/j8z)
Posted by: TH at December 08, 2011 03:29 PM (LIZRu)
Posted by: Clubber Lang at December 08, 2011 03:29 PM (QcFbt)
He seemed intrigued and suggested I start a newsletter.
Posted by: Y-not at December 08, 2011 03:29 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Rohypnol at December 08, 2011 03:30 PM (4q5tP)
Posted by: CoolCzech at December 08, 2011 03:30 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: SuzyTheBlowUpDoll at December 08, 2011 03:30 PM (PwyAv)
-You played with your hair a lot. A woman playing with her hair is a common sign of flirtation.
Maybe Mike is not that messed up. Afterall, the letter didn't elaborate on what hair she was playing with. Bitch could have driven the guy mad if he had to watch her fluffing the beaver all evening.
Posted by: Havedash at December 08, 2011 03:31 PM (JfvbF)
I'm thinking he submitted this for Creative Stalking 101.
Just another OWSer working on his degree
Posted by: ontherocks at December 08, 2011 03:31 PM (HBqDo)
Never could do that. "I'm sorry, I'm just not that into you" or something similar I would've had trouble with. Of course, I could've easily lied and said I wasn't ready to be involved. That's plausible in hindsight. Would "get off my lawn" work?
Posted by: Lady in Black at December 08, 2011 03:31 PM (ycuSb)
Posted by: stuiec at December 08, 2011 03:33 PM (Di3Im)
Posted by: Mike at December 08, 2011 03:33 PM (vVv3V)
@NYCAviation Would be scarier if Iran could build replica that accurate. BREAKING U.S. official believes Iran TV images are of real US drone
Posted by: The Robot Devil at December 08, 2011 03:34 PM (GaIwz)
Posted by: Christina Hendricks' Mighty Jugs Supports Rick Perry's Hair for President at December 08, 2011 03:34 PM (4o3YT)
A day when everything that could go wrong for the euro and eurozone has just gotten worse. Hours away from the completion of the summit, whose failure will unleash a nuclear bomb of serial downgrades by S&P ..., The Telegraph writes that the summit is already in tatters after a rebellion and threats by Finland, Holland and Ireland are poised to scuttle the summit.
Posted by: Methos at December 08, 2011 03:34 PM (sOXQX)
I don't think women play hard to get with someone they really want to be gotten by. Maybe with the marginal types, the ones they suck validaiton from.
Posted by: ace at December 08, 2011 07:25 PM (nj1bB)
Are you fucking serious?
Ace.
Dude.
Girls chase boys and boys chase girls.
You're making it WAAAYYY too complicated.
Posted by: ErikW at December 08, 2011 03:34 PM (QzBOX)
Posted by: Arms Merchant at December 08, 2011 03:35 PM (kPT11)
HMMMM.
Posted by: Vote for me and I'll set you free! at December 08, 2011 03:35 PM (xqpQL)
Posted by: Emperor of Icecream, Cultist for Jesus at December 08, 2011 03:35 PM (epBek)
The drone looked intact. If that was the true drone, they didn't shoot it down - either it malfunctioned and landed unscathed (unlikely) or the Iranians downed it with some type of electronic attack.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at December 08, 2011 03:36 PM (UR5vq)
Think of the upside of becoming romantically involved with someone for whom emotions are an alien concept.
Posted by: Clubber Lang at December 08, 2011 07:29 PM (QcFbt)
I am glad to see that you know so much about Aspies. You do realize that a fair chunk of the world's music and art have been produced by folks who were slightly autistic, right?
Inability to read body language does not mean that they are unemotional or unable to feel empathy. It is a comunication issue.
Posted by: Grey Fox, team Solomon Kane at December 08, 2011 03:36 PM (sEvRn)
Posted by: Al Myers at December 08, 2011 03:36 PM (vq7an)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at December 08, 2011 03:37 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: steevy at December 08, 2011 03:38 PM (7WJOC)
Good thing I wasn't on a call or drinking while reading that.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at December 08, 2011 03:38 PM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: what Mike says while performing cunnilingus at December 08, 2011 03:38 PM (wAQA5)
Posted by: Maureen Dowd at December 08, 2011 03:38 PM (4o3YT)
Posted by: Miss'80s at December 08, 2011 03:39 PM (d6QMz)
# 3,188 : the sound of you not breathing.
Posted by: Mike at December 08, 2011 03:39 PM (vVv3V)
What, we just send those drones out like the Wicked Witch of the West releasing her flying monkeys and don't have a clue if one doesn't return home?
Posted by: Havedash at December 08, 2011 03:39 PM (JfvbF)
Posted by: Lady in Black at December 08, 2011 07:19 PM (ycuSb)
DON'T DO THIS
just be honest with the guy
it is better to rip off the bandaid once, than let it fester
Posted by: chemjeff at December 08, 2011 03:39 PM (s7mIC)
Posted by: docweasel at December 08, 2011 03:39 PM (J0twV)
Indeed.
In my youth (hell I'm still young) I had an... ahem... very clear indication of what it looks like when someone's interested. It was a good early lesson on interpreting mixed signals as "nope."
Posted by: fb at December 08, 2011 03:40 PM (JVEmw)
Bullshit. When I was these kids' age I never chased a boy, or called a boy, or sat in a parked car with a boy....
Posted by: Lorraine McFly at December 08, 2011 03:40 PM (PwyAv)
Posted by: Arms Merchant at December 08, 2011 03:40 PM (kPT11)
ORRRRR, they have failsafes and codes to protect the software/hardware.
The stealth body and such isn't that unknown tech. It's knowing HOW to build it that matters. And having the machines to make the material. and having the techs to maintain the materials. etc.
Posted by: Vote for me and I'll set you free! at December 08, 2011 03:40 PM (xqpQL)
I heard a BOY in there.
Posted by: Maureen Dowd at December 08, 2011 07:38 PM (4o3YT)
I'd FIFY to Girls chase Obama and Obama chase girls. but since no woman has come forward to admit dating the dweeb...
Posted by: The Robot Devil at December 08, 2011 03:41 PM (GaIwz)
Posted by: ontherocks at December 08, 2011 03:41 PM (HBqDo)
Posted by: best, Mike at December 08, 2011 03:41 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: Vote for me and I'll set you free! at December 08, 2011 03:41 PM (xqpQL)
Kratos, check this out
A computer virus has infected the cockpits of AmericaÂ’s Predator and Reaper drones, logging pilotsÂ’ every keystroke as they remotely fly missions over Afghanistan and other warzones.
Posted by: Methos at December 08, 2011 03:41 PM (sOXQX)
Posted by: Christina Hendricks' Mighty Jugs Supports Rick Perry's Hair for President at December 08, 2011 03:41 PM (4o3YT)
Posted by: Clubber Lang at December 08, 2011 03:41 PM (QcFbt)
Lauren,
You really should pay closer attention to your tire pressures. After yesterday's cold snap, I checked and you were down on all tires by at least 5 lbs. I aired them up to the correct pressures and retightened your lug nuts.
No need to thank me.
Posted by: Mike at December 08, 2011 03:42 PM (4q5tP)
Posted by: kathysaysso at December 08, 2011 03:42 PM (ZtwUX)
I'm crying and hyperventilating too.
But not from laughter. Oh no.
That'll come later.
Posted by: Mike at December 08, 2011 03:43 PM (PwyAv)
Posted by: David Axelrod wearing a wig at December 08, 2011 03:43 PM (4o3YT)
Posted by: Vote for me and I'll set you free! at December 08, 2011 03:43 PM (xqpQL)
Posted by: best, Mike at December 08, 2011 03:45 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: Methos at December 08, 2011 07:41 PM (sOXQX)
Incidentally, if I may ask an inconvenient follow-up question, how certain are we that the encryption keys for purposes such as updating the targeting (or aborting) of Tomahawks and similar weapons while in flight remains secure?
Wonderful.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at December 08, 2011 03:45 PM (UR5vq)
Posted by: Lady in Black at December 08, 2011 07:19 PM (ycuSb)
DON'T DO THIS
just be honest with the guy
it is better to rip off the bandaid once, than let it fester
Posted by: chemjeff at December 08, 2011 07:39 PM (s7mIC)
********
Classic illustration of one of the biggest differences in how men and women think/operate.
Posted by: MissTammy at December 08, 2011 03:46 PM (SsG4J)
Posted by: Vote for me and I'll set you free! at December 08, 2011 03:47 PM (xqpQL)
Posted by: HondaV65 at December 08, 2011 03:47 PM (Wm6n5)
Posted by: Clubber Lang at December 08, 2011 07:41 PM (QcFbt)
Mostly just displayed your ignorance and poor manners. I imagine that Mozart and Tolkien might be mildly offended if you told them that they didn't understand human emotion, though.
Posted by: Grey Fox, team Solomon Kane at December 08, 2011 03:47 PM (sEvRn)
Posted by: willow channeling Mike at December 08, 2011 03:48 PM (h+qn8)
Then he was surprised because people would not take any initiative for fear of the boss. And thus, of course, people constantly disappointed him.
He was convinced that his Chief Engineer was passive-aggressive and sabotaging his business. Maybe he played with his hair to much.
Posted by: Arms Merchant at December 08, 2011 03:49 PM (kPT11)
Posted by: willow channeling Mike at December 08, 2011 03:49 PM (h+qn8)
Posted by: unidentified woman at December 08, 2011 03:49 PM (sHY5w)
Posted by: Havedash at December 08, 2011 03:49 PM (JfvbF)
Posted by: sifty channels other famous internet guy at December 08, 2011 03:49 PM (WsOiK)
Dearest Lauren,
I made a mix tape CD for you, to express how I feel about us. It's just one of those little things I do for the people I care about. Enjoy!
Posted by: Mike at December 08, 2011 03:49 PM (4q5tP)
a docweasel. Remember, they are a group blog. That way, each can deny that the were the asswipe that was here before.
Posted by: toby928© at December 08, 2011 03:49 PM (GTbGH)
Posted by: best, Mike at December 08, 2011 03:50 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: unidentified woman at December 08, 2011 07:49 PM (sHY5w)
Is that you, Corey Feldman? You loved it, you little minx.
Posted by: sifty at December 08, 2011 03:51 PM (WsOiK)
I also refolded everything in your underwear drawer...
You're welcome, bitch!
Posted by: Mike at December 08, 2011 03:51 PM (UR5vq)
Posted by: best, Mike at December 08, 2011 03:51 PM (nj1bB)
DON'T DO THIS
just be honest with the guy
it is better to rip off the bandaid once, than let it festerMeh- I can sympathize with women who simply refuse to pick up the phone instead of answering to say "No, thanks".
Some guys (i.e. Mike) don't take rejection well. Either they'll respond with insults or by being whiny bitches about it.
On a (rare) online date, a woman with a very different definition of "average" body type than the rest of planet Earth told me she'd prefer to be honestly told up front if a guy was interested in a second date. The date was fine; took her to a decent place, had a nice dinner and conversation... but though she was nice enough, I wasn't at all interested.
I found out how that whole "honesty" thing works when I very gently told her that I had a good time but things just didn't "click" for me (she said she could've gone "either way"), and had to watch her leave crying.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at December 08, 2011 03:51 PM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: willow channeling Mike at December 08, 2011 03:51 PM (h+qn8)
Posted by: toby928© at December 08, 2011 03:52 PM (GTbGH)
Posted by: best, Mike at December 08, 2011 03:53 PM (nj1bB)
If by "sick" you mean "hilarious".
Posted by: Hollowpoint at December 08, 2011 03:53 PM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: willow channeling Mike at December 08, 2011 03:54 PM (h+qn8)
I say ten years because by that time [surely] he will have already been arrested for the 30 women he has killed with his mother's pantyhose.
But I'm sure they all played with their hair too.
This is talk to the cops right away creepy.....
Posted by: christmasghost at December 08, 2011 03:54 PM (ibzsd)
Posted by: willow channeling Mike at December 08, 2011 03:54 PM (h+qn8)
Love, M.
ps: You have way more yogurt in your fridge than I have ever seen.
Posted by: sifty tries to be like mike at December 08, 2011 03:54 PM (WsOiK)
Posted by: toby928© at December 08, 2011 07:52 PM (GTbGH)
THE CALL IS COMING FROM INSIDE THE HOUSE!
Posted by: ErikW, all I got at December 08, 2011 03:55 PM (QzBOX)
Honey, (if I may be so bold)
I observed that you were all out of Venus Razor blades so I got you a refill pack. Keep those glorious gams smooth and sexxy!
Your friend (wanting more),
Posted by: Mike at December 08, 2011 03:55 PM (4q5tP)
Posted by: best, Mike at December 08, 2011 03:55 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: Verizon Door-To-Door Customer Service Survey-Taker at December 08, 2011 03:56 PM (nj1bB)
Posted by: ace at December 08, 2011 03:57 PM (nj1bB)
just be honest with the guy
it is better to rip off the bandaid once, than let it fester
It's unpleasant, and hard, to reject someone if you are a normal, empathetic person. Even if you get past this, it would be ok if the woman is sure the man is no threat. But if you have a whiff that the guy might be off in any way, the last thing you want to do is reject him outright, or be cornered into a debate about why you should continue dating. And this guy Mike had put a LOT of thought into his debate points.
Posted by: Mayday at December 08, 2011 03:57 PM (orrLR)
Incidentally, if I may ask an inconvenient follow-up question, how certain are we that the encryption keys for purposes such as updating the targeting (or aborting) of Tomahawks and similar weapons while in flight remains secure?
Wonderful.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at December 08, 2011 07:45 PM (UR5vq)
Too serious for the chaos line?On the upside, and I don't actually know anything about anything, but it seems to me that it's easier to break a code on the predators and such, that have been constantly running for a decade now (allowing one to monitor the signal), than tomahawks, which have been used at most sporadically (and I think not at all in Afghanistan).
That of course assumes that this was some kind of shenanigans on the battlefield and not espionage.
Posted by: Methos at December 08, 2011 03:58 PM (sOXQX)
Posted by: best, Mike at December 08, 2011 03:58 PM (nj1bB)
Posted by: willow channeling Mike at December 08, 2011 03:58 PM (h+qn8)
Posted by: toby928© Perrykrishna with tattooed knuckles at December 08, 2011 03:58 PM (GTbGH)
Posted by: sifty tries to be like mike at December 08, 2011 07:54 PM (WsOiK)
You broke into the wrong house, silly.
If you're that eager for a classy woman's touch, let me get you acquainted with my friend Fiona. She also loves classical music - it keeps her calm and collected while she's pulling out a man's fingernails.
Thanks for reorganizing my DVDs, but after you regain consciousness and staunch the bleeding, I would like my Burn Notice - Seasons 1 through 5 back ASAP.
And I love yogurt!
Posted by: Michael Weston at December 08, 2011 03:59 PM (UR5vq)
Posted by: best, Mike at December 08, 2011 03:59 PM (AZGON)
Now put the lotion in the basket.
M
Posted by: sifty tries to be like mike at December 08, 2011 03:59 PM (WsOiK)
Posted by: Clubber Lang at December 08, 2011 04:00 PM (QcFbt)
I think this guy makes a very convincing argument about their compatibility.
"I like classiscal music.
You like classical music.
I need human flesh to appease The Dragon.
You are made of human flesh."
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 08, 2011 04:00 PM (DiqH3)
Posted by: ace at December 08, 2011 04:01 PM (nj1bB)
I haven't used that in forever because it's too damn depressing to type. Who would have thunk that a tag-line from a silly 2010 game would be the most apt description of the times we live in come 2011?
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at December 08, 2011 04:01 PM (UR5vq)
Posted by: willow channeling Mike at December 08, 2011 04:02 PM (h+qn8)
Posted by: LiveFreeOrDie at December 08, 2011 04:02 PM (JucRt)
You knew that was my autoerotic asphyxiation hand.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at December 08, 2011 04:04 PM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: ace at December 08, 2011 08:01 PM (nj1bB)
Good. We understand each other, then.
Posted by: Marco Rubio at December 08, 2011 04:05 PM (p/j8z)
Posted by: Bill D. Cat at December 08, 2011 04:05 PM (npr0X)
I know you must have forgotten where i work, I'll remind you again, the county morgue, congress
Posted by: willow the female at December 08, 2011 04:05 PM (h+qn8)
Posted by: sifty tries to be like mike at December 08, 2011 04:06 PM (WsOiK)
Posted by: Clubber Lang at December 08, 2011 08:00 PM (QcFb)
What was that you said about lightening up?
Posted by: Grey Fox, team Solomon Kane at December 08, 2011 04:06 PM (sEvRn)
Posted by: ace at December 08, 2011 04:06 PM (nj1bB)
Posted by: toby928© Perrykrishna with tattooed knuckles at December 08, 2011 04:07 PM (GTbGH)
Posted by: best, Mike at December 08, 2011 04:08 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: sifty at December 08, 2011 04:08 PM (WsOiK)
My sweetest Lauren,
I couldn't help but notice the accumulation of dust on your room vents, so I wiped them down. I also replaced the HVAC return plenum filter with a better grade of filter to keep the air you breathe as clean as possible. I really like a healthy set of lungs on my girlfriends.
You see the higer the filter's MERV rating, the more particulates the filter traps and removes from the air. For years the American Society of Heating, Refrigerating and Air-Conditioning Engineers (ASHRAE) provided a test standard/procedure for determining the performance of an air filter. Adopted in 1968 as Standard 52-68 it went through revisions in 1976 and again in 1992. Its current title is ASHRAE Standard 52.1-1992. This test, while valuable, was difficult to explain and, as a result, could be somewhat confusing. In an attempt to provide more specific information that was easier to understand, ASHRAE created a new document titled ASHRAE Standard 52.2 which identifies a filterÂ’s performance on specific particle size ranges. The results are reported as Minimum Efficiency Reporting Value (MERV) levels.
The MERV levels provide a clear understanding of what removal percentage can be expected for specific particle size ranges. Range E1 is for particles in the 0.3 – 1.0 micron* range. E2 is for particles 1.0 – 3.0 microns in size and E3 is for particles 3.0 – 10.0 microns. The filter is tested on all three ranges and based on its performance is rated numerically from 1 – 16. Becoming familiar with the MERV level of a filter being considered for use will ensure that a minimum performance standard can be planned for and counted on.
Your friend in ardent longing,
Posted by: Mike at December 08, 2011 04:09 PM (4q5tP)
Posted by: best, Mike at December 08, 2011 04:10 PM (nj1bB)
Posted by: willow channels Mike at December 08, 2011 04:10 PM (h+qn8)
if they are not calling back, THEY ARE NOT INTERESTED. Period!
Nonsense. It is common knowledge that women sometimes are forgetful lack focus.
I find that nothing focuses there attention like the gleam of a naked lightbulb in my kill room, winking off the shiny blade.
See how her eyes gleam, ace? She can't take her eyes off it! That is human connection.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 08, 2011 04:10 PM (DiqH3)
Posted by: The kind of person who answers before you hear the first ring tone. at December 08, 2011 04:11 PM (JVEmw)
Posted by: best, Mike at December 08, 2011 04:11 PM (nj1bB)
Posted by: fyi , Mike at December 08, 2011 04:12 PM (npr0X)
Posted by: willow channels Mike at December 08, 2011 04:12 PM (h+qn8)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at December 08, 2011 07:51 PM (SY2Kh)
but here's the thing - she would have cried either way. By being honest with her you didn't cause her to cry, you just caused it to happen in front of you.
Posted by: chemjeff at December 08, 2011 04:13 PM (s7mIC)
Posted by: best, Mike at December 08, 2011 04:13 PM (AZGON)
Boone's Farm Strawberry Hill and murder go together like duct tape and vans.
Posted by: sifty at December 08, 2011 04:14 PM (WsOiK)
(And the mask made of skin? A souvenir from Malaysia. Honest.)
Posted by: joncelli at December 08, 2011 04:14 PM (+MbqG)
Posted by: mpfs at December 08, 2011 04:15 PM (5zBoE)
you really need to repaint the trim on your bedroom window.
One night around midnight, I got a call from my neighbor, a single guy who lives across the alley from me. I didn't know him well, just enough for the occasional wave or pleasantries when putting out the garbage. So when he called that night solely for the purpose of asking why I was watching boxing on TV, that was a bit freaky. My bedroom is on the 2nd floor and the blinds were closed. Needless to say, I didn't sleep very well that night.
Helpful tip for you morons, don't call a woman you barely know in the middle of the night to discuss what you see looking through her bedroom window.
It was some comfort to me that I was not watching boxing, so he could not in fact see through my blinds. I successfully avoided the guy for the next year, and he eventually moved without further incident.
Although what he did was creepy, my gut instinct was that he wasn't dangerous, just oblivious to how his phone call would be perceived. I think he meant to be funny, and thought since we were both up at the same time it was ok to call that late.
Posted by: Mayday at December 08, 2011 04:15 PM (orrLR)
Posted by: best, Mike at December 08, 2011 04:15 PM (nj1bB)
Posted by: Vote for me and I'll set you free! at December 08, 2011 04:15 PM (xqpQL)
Posted by: sifty at December 08, 2011 04:15 PM (WsOiK)
There is a lot of things wrong with you, but I would consider a second date. Ya know that meat house in the Texas Chainsaw Massacre. Yeah, they play classical music there now.
best,
Mike
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 08, 2011 04:16 PM (JYheX)
(she said she could've gone "either way")
... she might have been offering you a choice of inputs.
Posted by: garrett at December 08, 2011 04:16 PM (p/j8z)
The last time I went on a first date I asked if she wanted to go back to my place for some pizza and anal.
She told me she likes pizza, so what's with kicking me in the balls?
Posted by: Hollowpoint at December 08, 2011 04:17 PM (SY2Kh)
Very worried. But keep it up, please. My sides hurt from laughing.
Posted by: Retread at December 08, 2011 04:17 PM (ALZZ7)
Posted by: ace at December 08, 2011 08:06 PM (nj1bB)
That's where friends come in to help. You have friends, right?
Posted by: ErikW at December 08, 2011 04:17 PM (QzBOX)
Posted by: chemjeff at December 08, 2011 04:18 PM (s7mIC)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 08, 2011 04:18 PM (vzFJV)
Posted by: Sometimes Malvert pee red at December 08, 2011 04:18 PM (Ixum5)
Posted by: willow channels Mike at December 08, 2011 04:19 PM (h+qn8)
Posted by: Mike, giving homage to the classics at December 08, 2011 04:20 PM (vVv3V)
Missed you so much today I forgot to buy pool acid and plastic sheeting.
I'm such a scatterbrain sometimes.
M.
ps: You have a wasp nest started under your eaves in the backyard.
Posted by: sifty at December 08, 2011 04:20 PM (WsOiK)
Posted by: mpfs at December 08, 2011 08:15 PM (5zBoE)
I was going to say, this guy sounds like a psychopath. That shit is crazy and I'm betting she picked up on that and that's why she dropped him like a hot rock.
Posted by: Rum doesn't date because of guys like this all over Los Angeles at December 08, 2011 04:20 PM (E+E+p)
Posted by: willow channels Mike at December 08, 2011 04:20 PM (h+qn8)
Posted by: Shiggz - Newt (Maximum Warp!) at December 08, 2011 04:20 PM (RfvTE)
But was she hot?
Posted by: toby928© at December 08, 2011 04:21 PM (GTbGH)
Posted by: Mike at December 08, 2011 04:22 PM (JVEmw)
Posted by: best, Mike at December 08, 2011 04:22 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: Mike at December 08, 2011 04:22 PM (npr0X)
Posted by: mpfs at December 08, 2011 04:23 PM (5zBoE)
Yeah. But the sex is usually great with the crazies. Just don't get drunk or fall asleep or give a real number or address or go back to where you met them ever again.
and pour tequila on everything.
Posted by: sifty at December 08, 2011 04:23 PM (WsOiK)
Posted by: Vote for me and I'll set you free! at December 08, 2011 04:23 PM (xqpQL)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 08, 2011 04:23 PM (vzFJV)
Posted by: willow channels Mike at December 08, 2011 04:23 PM (h+qn8)
Maybe, but had I been less honest and just blown her off I wouldn't have had to feel like the asshole who made his date cry. If she cries in the comfort of her own home after I don't call her back, it's no skin off my back.
At least I was smart enough to lie when I answered that sure, her 5'7" and 200 lb frame was exactly what I thought an "average" body type meant.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at December 08, 2011 04:23 PM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: nickless will probably get accidentally banned again soon at December 08, 2011 04:24 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: best, Mike at December 08, 2011 04:24 PM (nj1bB)
Great, that's going to be one of the traps for the next Saw movie...thank you so very much for that!
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at December 08, 2011 04:24 PM (UR5vq)
Posted by: the real mike at December 08, 2011 04:24 PM (aKiIq)
Posted by: best, Mike at December 08, 2011 04:25 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: Mike at December 08, 2011 04:27 PM (JVEmw)
I'm going to tell your wife you said that. :p
Posted by: Rum <3 Mrs. Sifty at December 08, 2011 04:27 PM (E+E+p)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 08, 2011 04:27 PM (PLHIl)
Posted by: nickless will probably get accidentally banned again soon at December 08, 2011 04:28 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: willow channels Mike at December 08, 2011 04:28 PM (h+qn8)
Posted by: Mike at December 08, 2011 04:28 PM (npr0X)
@31: "Sounds like something Dwight Schrute would write"
More like Woody Allen, but I've probably got thirty years on you.
Posted by: 66chevelle at December 08, 2011 04:29 PM (QjSgY)
Posted by: willow channels Mike at December 08, 2011 04:29 PM (h+qn8)
You are a cruel cruel Disney villain.
Give her hugs for me. You'll see her before I do.
Posted by: sifty at December 08, 2011 04:29 PM (WsOiK)
My sweet baboo (that's you, Lauren),
I don't understand why you won't accept my friend request on facebook. I've changed my status to "Seeing a SPECIAL! Someone," and I know you are much too nice a person to leave me hanging.
Besides, your pupils distinctly dialated on three separate occasions during our first date and you licked your lips seductively at least 5 times, so I know the attraction/chemistry is there.
Passionately burning for you,
Posted by: Mike at December 08, 2011 04:30 PM (4q5tP)
Posted by: best, Mike at December 08, 2011 04:30 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: the human mike at December 08, 2011 04:31 PM (aKiIq)
Posted by: Holger at December 08, 2011 04:31 PM (zaVyn)
Here, let me take the duct tape off her mouth and she'll tell you herself.
Posted by: Mike at December 08, 2011 04:31 PM (SY2Kh)
You aren't used to checking your car for bombs.
Even Steven.
Best,
Mike
Posted by: sifty at December 08, 2011 04:31 PM (WsOiK)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 08, 2011 04:32 PM (PLHIl)
Posted by: mpfs at December 08, 2011 04:32 PM (5zBoE)
Posted by: Mike. Mike. MIIIIIIIIIIKKKKKEEEEE! at December 08, 2011 04:33 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: sifty at December 08, 2011 04:34 PM (WsOiK)
Posted by: best, Mike at December 08, 2011 04:34 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: Count de Monet at December 08, 2011 04:35 PM (4q5tP)
Posted by: mpfs at December 08, 2011 04:35 PM (5zBoE)
Posted by: sifty at December 08, 2011 04:35 PM (WsOiK)
Yes, indeed. So when is the Captain America movie review coming out for us to scorn and mock read adoringly?
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at December 08, 2011 04:36 PM (UR5vq)
Posted by: Mike. Mike. MIIIIIIIIIIKKKKKEEEEE! at December 08, 2011 04:36 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 08, 2011 04:36 PM (PLHIl)
Posted by: Mike at December 08, 2011 04:36 PM (npr0X)
Posted by: willow channels Mike at December 08, 2011 04:36 PM (h+qn8)
Posted by: mike from alternate universe at December 08, 2011 04:37 PM (aKiIq)
Best,
Mike
Posted by: sifty at December 08, 2011 04:37 PM (WsOiK)
My understanding based on friends and TV is that Crazies suck and ride dongs like their Daddy's love is about to finally arrive after decades of emotional and affection level ie chick blue balls. In short... I can certainly see the appeal and risk calculation to that.
Posted by: Shiggz - Newt (Maximum Warp!) at December 08, 2011 04:38 PM (RfvTE)
Posted by: Hannibal Lector at December 08, 2011 04:38 PM (zaVyn)
Posted by: willow channels Mike at December 08, 2011 04:38 PM (h+qn8)
Posted by: mpfs at December 08, 2011 04:39 PM (5zBoE)
Posted by: best, Mike at December 08, 2011 04:39 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: nickless will probably get accidentally banned again soon at December 08, 2011 04:40 PM (MMC8r)
^how crazy people think^
Posted by: Shiggz - Newt (Maximum Warp!) at December 08, 2011 04:41 PM (RfvTE)
Posted by: Mike. Mike. MIIIIIIIIIIKKKKKEEEEE! at December 08, 2011 04:41 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: willow channels Lauren, at December 08, 2011 04:41 PM (h+qn8)
@89: "That letter would qualify her for a carry permit - in California."
If you are hot enough, a peasant making eye contact with you justifies a carry permit in California.
Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at December 08, 2011 04:42 PM (jAqTK)
Chicks really dig it when you give them your own ear.
Posted by: Vincent van Gogh at December 08, 2011 04:42 PM (UR5vq)
A crazy woman will suck a dick like it holds the last oxygen on the space station.
Posted by: sifty at December 08, 2011 04:43 PM (WsOiK)
Posted by: Chuckit at December 08, 2011 04:43 PM (NJx3e)
Posted by: willow channels Lauren, at December 08, 2011 04:43 PM (h+qn8)
Posted by: mpfs at December 08, 2011 04:44 PM (5zBoE)
To my gorgeous googlybear Lauren,
I've calculated your pelvic dimensions and have concluded we'd be a perfect fit, IYKWIM.
You can ditch that, that device in your nightstand drawer. It's not even the right color.
Your adoring friend,
Posted by: Mike at December 08, 2011 04:44 PM (4q5tP)
Posted by: Chuckit at December 08, 2011 08:43 PM (NJx3e)
it was to bring forth your untapped aquifer of boundless mirth.
Posted by: sifty at December 08, 2011 04:45 PM (WsOiK)
Posted by: Mike at December 08, 2011 04:46 PM (npr0X)
No, not really. Anyway, I hear the expression 'eats like a bird' - it-it's really a
[stammers] fals-fals-fals-falsity. Because birds really eat a tremendous lot. But -I-I don't really know anything about birds. My hobby is stuffing things. You know - taxidermy.
Posted by: Mike Bates at December 08, 2011 04:46 PM (JYheX)
@107: "my other sister had to deal with a guy pumping the platypus in the bushes outside her apartment."
She was in my thoughts; I was in her bushes - it all equals out. I know she loves me - she left her curtains open.
Posted by: Francis Dolarhyde at December 08, 2011 04:46 PM (jAqTK)
Girl doesn't call you back after the first date = she's not interested.
Very simply really.
Posted by: Syracuse1989 at December 08, 2011 04:46 PM (OIIe6)
Posted by: best, Mike at December 08, 2011 04:47 PM (AZGON)
This guy is a great example of what emotional damage by mothers can create.
Notice every-time there is some heinous serial killer... always seems to turn out he had an extremely messed up relationship with his mom. Feminists don't like to think/talk about that.
abusive fathers often = alcoholics and sluts
abusive mothers often = dead hookers in the trunk
Posted by: Shiggz - Newt (Maximum Warp!) at December 08, 2011 04:47 PM (RfvTE)
Posted by: willow channels Mike, at December 08, 2011 04:48 PM (h+qn8)
abusive mothers often = dead hookers in the trunk
It's always the mother's fault. First place to look to place blame! That's so unfair.
Posted by: Marie Barone at December 08, 2011 04:50 PM (4q5tP)
Posted by: Mike at December 08, 2011 04:50 PM (npr0X)
Posted by: Mike at December 08, 2011 04:51 PM (jAqTK)
Posted by: Mike. Mike. MIIIIIIIIIIKKKKKEEEEE! at December 08, 2011 04:51 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: best, Mike at December 08, 2011 04:51 PM (AZGON)
Especially if you read the whole thing (if you have the stomach for it):
Perhaps, you donÂ’t think I have a "real" job. Well, IÂ’ve done very well as an investment manager. I've made my parents several millions of dollars.
So he did try the "I'm a millionare route".
That's real money. That's not monopoly money. In my opinion, if I
make real money, it's a real job. Donald Trump's children work for his
company. Do they have "real" jobs? I think so. George Soros's sons help
manage their family investments.
Talking positively about any of the Antichrist's Soro's family or Soros himself is immediate grounds for not taking you seriously all by itself.
Do they have "real" jobs? I think so.
In addition, IÂ’m both a right-brain and left-brain man, given that IÂ’m
both an investment manager and a philosopher/writer.
It shows from this letter, Mike. It really shows...
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at December 08, 2011 04:52 PM (UR5vq)
Posted by: Mike. Mike. MIIIIIIIIIIKKKKKEEEEE! at December 08, 2011 04:52 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Mike. Mike. MIIIIIIIIIIKKKKKEEEEE! at December 08, 2011 04:54 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Mike at December 08, 2011 04:54 PM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: Warden at December 08, 2011 04:54 PM (CL7aA)
@141: "I felt more comfortable just not acknowledging their calls, hoping they'd take the hint. It was the only way I knew how to hurt their feelings as least as possible."
Great - now you tell me. Well, better late than never, I suppose.
Posted by: Zombie Charles Whitman at December 08, 2011 04:55 PM (jAqTK)
You shouldn't have led me on by breathing. That was not nice.
PS - your bath mats don't match your towels.
best,
Mike
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 08, 2011 04:55 PM (JYheX)
Posted by: Brock O'bama at December 08, 2011 04:58 PM (/WZ6r)
My sweet, sweet, winkle-monkey,
I really enjoy the chase and your pretending to play hard-to-get. I know you enjoy it also by the expression of anticipation on your face as you run from your car to your front door. It's like your head is on a swivel, looking for me, seeking me out.
Soon my squiggle-button. Soon!
Posted by: Mike at December 08, 2011 05:00 PM (4q5tP)
-Women, advice, don't let men pay if you have zero intention of ever going out with them again.
-When I got engaged and we were poor I kept thinking back to all the money and time I spent on previous girls and wish I had it all saved up to give to my wife.
Posted by: Shiggz - Newt (Maximum Warp!) at December 08, 2011 05:01 PM (RfvTE)
You kids be cool and you never saw me.
Posted by: sifty at December 08, 2011 05:02 PM (WsOiK)
@189: ""I'm sorry, I'm just not that into you" or something similar I would've had trouble with."
Awww, jeez - if only you could have said that. There's a few couples who were on dates a while back that I now owe major apologies.
Posted by: Zombie Arthur Leigh Allen at December 08, 2011 05:03 PM (jAqTK)
Posted by: Mike at December 08, 2011 05:03 PM (npr0X)
@215: "When I was these kids' age I never chased a boy, or called a boy, or sat in a parked car with a boy...."
Prude.
Posted by: David Berkowitz at December 08, 2011 05:07 PM (jAqTK)
-
Them's fightin words.
Posted by: Classical Music Lover at December 08, 2011 05:10 PM (wQ1iq)
Posted by: Jerry Snadusky's left testicle at December 08, 2011 05:11 PM (g7KDy)
hey Mike,
Valu-Rite and fat chicks, think about before you end up in a cell with Inmate # iturnumout.
Posted by: shoey at December 08, 2011 05:19 PM (m6OUa)
I'm a dude. You went on a date with a dude in drag. Hetero a-hole, leading me on with your "I'm such a homo" dating profile.
Posted by: dustydog at December 08, 2011 05:21 PM (2p9Ss)
Posted by: Your Tax Dollars At Wrok at December 08, 2011 05:24 PM (OmxMs)
Posted by: CoolCzech at December 08, 2011 05:26 PM (niZvt)
I knew you understood me then."
I'm stealing that. That's seriously funny.
Posted by: dustydog at December 08, 2011 05:26 PM (2p9Ss)
Posted by: bad cat robot at December 08, 2011 05:26 PM (fwc5w)
Posted by: Pooter Hound at December 08, 2011 05:27 PM (le5qc)
1. Hide
2 Buy a gun and learn how to use it. Keep it with you at all times. Practice reaching for it in the dark from a sleeping position.
3. Move. To a different state.
4. STOP dating guys you have never met.
5. Go to church. Listen to your soul.
6. Be at peace.
Posted by: Pecos, Perry in a blaze of Glory at December 08, 2011 05:31 PM (2Gb0y)
@351: "Rum doesn't date because of guys like this all over Los Angeles
I left, what more can I do?
:=)
Posted by: sifty at December 08, 2011 08:24 PM (WsOiK)
--------------------------
Think we made a mistake leaving her alive? I mean, I'd eat Chinese, but I'd just be hungry again an hour later.....
Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at December 08, 2011 05:32 PM (jAqTK)
Posted by: Ed Gein at December 08, 2011 05:34 PM (m0PhS)
Poor Dear. You need to run for your life. And take the advice I sent to the woman.
Get thee out of the the pit of vice you live in and breathe free clean air while it is still possible.
Posted by: Pecos, Perry in a blaze of Glory at December 08, 2011 05:35 PM (2Gb0y)
Knew a guy like that. Never went out with him, but he fixated on me. Wound up having to go to the police, drop out of a beloved organization, get a lawyer.
There's Aspberger's, and there's nuts. This guy's nuts. And she should take that to the police and get a file started on him.
Posted by: Biblio at December 08, 2011 05:36 PM (LNe4F)
Posted by: Zombie Warren Zevon at December 08, 2011 05:39 PM (jAqTK)
Posted by: Pooter Hound at December 08, 2011 05:39 PM (le5qc)
Posted by: BarbaraS at December 08, 2011 05:47 PM (H6kVp)
Posted by: best, Mike at December 08, 2011 05:47 PM (nj1bB)
Yeah, I spiked my cell phones.
Posted by: Fritz at December 08, 2011 05:48 PM (FabC8)
Snowballed. Get it?
Posted by: B. Barack Dickus at December 08, 2011 06:02 PM (u+8qs)
Posted by: Deanna at December 08, 2011 06:08 PM (QjZhI)
My Cheri Amor,
Shall I compare thee to a summer's day? (Not really, because it makes no sense to compare a person to the astronomical phenomenon of the Earth's axis of rotation not being perpendicular to the orbital plane, but as we all know is currently at an angle of about 23.44° (aka the "obliquity of the ecliptic"), and that the axis keeps its orientation with respect to an inertial frame of reference. As a consequence, for half the year (from around 20 March to 22 September) the Northern Hemisphere is inclined toward the Sun, with the maximum around 21 June. You can't compare a person to that.)
Anyway, I just wanted to gently remind you that according to the internet, youÂ’re 33 or 32, so, at least from my point of view, weÂ’re a good match in terms of age. A fertile woman of your age is nearing the end of her healthy child bearing years. You can even do a google search on it. Seems many fertility problems and birth defects begin to grow exponentially beginning at age 35, so there's still a window of a few years where we could begin a family. Before your eggs hit their expiration date.
I remain,
Steadfastly devoted to you,
You are my sweet butternut,
Posted by: Mike at December 08, 2011 06:17 PM (4q5tP)
Posted by: Tiny Buddha ePub at December 08, 2011 06:32 PM (NnwTo)
Posted by: Amy (not my real name) at December 08, 2011 06:44 PM (D+Cui)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 08, 2011 07:08 PM (i0App)
Posted by: venus velvet at December 08, 2011 07:39 PM (mztDG)
Funny stuff, Ace. Nicely done.
456...... This guy's nuts. And she should take that to the police and get a file started on him.
Yeah, absolutely. This guy knows where she lives now. .....Some of this sounded creepily familiar to me, since I had a guy fixate on me once. It didn't end well.
Posted by: wheatie.....aka ConservativeMenAreJustHotter at December 08, 2011 08:16 PM (HvKWW)
Maybe I should introduce her to him? She broke up with me when I was on vacation, I think he'd find it to be a term of endearment.
Posted by: Crazee at December 08, 2011 08:22 PM (sbtxl)
Posted by: Joe at December 08, 2011 08:50 PM (UwxZ1)
Posted by: Dr Spank at December 08, 2011 09:08 PM (Sh42X)
On a serious note, this guy is a classic stalker and I recommend the book The Gift Of Fear by Gavin de Becker to anyone, man or woman, who finds themselves targeted by a nut like this. In the book de Becker explains that all a stalker cares about is contact. Any kind of contact. The worst thing any victim can do is respond in any way at all.
Do not change your phone number. Use an answering machine or voice mail and have a FEMALE friend record the greeting and then never answer the phone. Get a new line (this was before cell phones were popular, so would be much easier today) and only give it to friends and family. DO NOT have a male friend record the greeting because that will piss off the stalker. Don't record it yourself because he'll call it just to hear your voice. Never listen to the messages.
Ignore everything he does. Letters, post cards, emails. Never respond. If he shows up in person make it very clear you do not want anything to do with him even if it means being rude. But be clear. Then ignore him. Do NOT get a friend or your brother or your father to try to scare the guy. It won't work.
Chances are very good that if you ignore him from the very beginning he'll find someone else to fixate on and move on to that person. Yeah, not a great solution but worry about yourself. If it does come down to getting the cops involved and a restaining order, buy a gun and be prepared to use it.
Posted by: Jaynie59 at December 09, 2011 03:45 AM (4zKCA)
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Posted by: shutthefuckup at December 09, 2011 06:04 AM (eJo44)
For the record, I did not write that email.
When it comes to dating, I'm like the honey badger: I don't give a fuck.
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