1 I think we'll go with Fareed on this one. 

2 Potato

3 Fareed Suckbarrya is a tool. A well-paid tool, but still a tool.

4 Potahto

5 Hasn't EVERYTHING he has predicted budget and economic wise been WAY off the mark?

The simplest way to illustrate this general principle to the layperson is with Geoff's infamous chart showing what the unemployment rate would be with the Suckulous over time vs what it really is. 

6 4 Fareed Suckbarrya is a tool.

He is a "hoe" for Obama,

7 Fareed Zakariah looks like was created in a Tim Burton claymation factory.

8 Fareed Zakaria Shows He Is A Liberal ToolYou sound surprised.

Of course Zakaria is a liberal tool. He's always been a liberal tool, and always will be a liberal tool. It's part of the Fabric of Life.

9 All these new tax 'triggers' occur well after the 2012 elections. How coincidentally convenient. And Teh Won's original 2012 budget proposal -- that turdostrity is already deep down the memory hole after just a couple of months.
 
The collapse dates for SS, Medicare and Medicaid keep getting moved up every single time they re-analyze it, so the solution is to still do nothing. Dingy Reid said he wouldn't touch SS for 20 years -- now there is a plan.
 
It's like having your 4 yo doing the family financial budget. With dull crayons.

10 The Democrats want to increase spending and increase taxes. The only reason they are bullshitting us about it is the bitch-slap they got in November and the next one coming next year. They are vampires and our money is the blood that feeds them.

11

It's like having your 4 yo doing the family financial budget. With dull crayons.

On a wall.

12 This Zakaria fellow looks great in his trousers.  

13 I have a theory that foreign lefties/libs are popular with the MSM because good English in a foreign accent sounds "educated," and is disarming for decent people; conservatives, I mean. 

14 He's always been a liberal tool

except when he's being a terrorist apologist and supporter BIRM.

15 The fatal conceit of the liberal douchebag is that he doesn't know what he doesn't know.

These troglodytes think that they know absolutely everything there is to know; that they are at the pinnacle of human development.

And they are wrong.

16 No matter what, we still end up at... DOOM.

17 Sorry to thread jack, but these links go with this current gov't fuckstick we are dealing with. The link @ the picture some saw yeaterday, but it still making me tear up 12 hours late, so I'm reposting it:


Great News: White House Launches 'Taxpayer Receipt' Site


...


Sam Webb: Communist Leader Lays Out Stark Choice for America
Either the Tea Party/Republicans win in 2012, or the Communist Party does

...

Explosive Bill Ayers Interview: John McCain is a War Criminal & the Pentagon is a Terror Organization

...
This picture brought tears to my eyes.

It is a little old lady with her arm wrapped around someone's elbow, her head on his arm, an American flag bandana draped around her neck, and her eyes closed.

18 Fareed brought teh nuclear-powered stupid when he spoke about Iraq. Nothing new here.

19 And what did you expect with a Cargo Cult society like ours has become...??

20 What is really a joke was that on CNN a few minutes ago they were talking about how the "media" was becoming disillusioned with Obama.

Hahahahahaha, they are so disillusioned they only blow him and kiss his ass every 5 minutes instead of every minute.

21 Heil Obama!

22 True. There are a LOT of charts that could be used to highlight his economic shortfalls. Posted by: CDR M at April 17, 2011 11:31 AM Unfortunately, their effectiveness depends on people putting aside petty, ideological emotion and using logic and common sense. Or having even the slightest capacity to understand basic math and economics. There is a Facebook poll going around where it asks "Does Barack Obama deserve a 2nd term as President?" The votes are currently 1.7mil NO - 480k YES. So 77%-23%. Which is promising, considering it is Facebook. That said, I saw that my own mom (60 years old) answered "YES". Completely disheartened me. Now, I know she's liberal, but there is a difference, I think, between a liberal and a liberal who supports the likes of Obama and Co. The former is just ignorant, but the latter is downright dangerous. It completely depressed me to see my own mom in the latter category. And, from what I can tell, it's all based on emotion. She once told me that she doesn't like people telling her how to think or what to think. So she'll take a position, simply because she feels other people may be bullying her about an issue. I wonder how many other millions of Americans form their political positions based on that emotional nonsense. Also, if I showed any of these charts to my mom, her standard answer is "well that was Bush's fault and Obama got stuck with it". There is just no getting through to her.

23 CDR M, you see this:  Reid 'not confident' of success in Afghanistan

24 And, from what I can tell, it's all based on emotion. She once told me that she doesn't like people telling her how to think or what to think. So she'll take a position, simply because she feels other people may be bullying her about an issue.




Damn, I could have written that statement. 

25

The environmental side of this, regulation systematically crushing economically viable industries, is just as important as the spending side of this.  Increasing government revenues could actually be accomplished by the EPA, well, by shutting a lot of it down anyway.

Which island/mountain ski paradise tax haven will most benefit from discussion of Obama's tax plan?

"Millionaires and billionaires" (who the Donks mention) will move to avoid higher taxes, or just live in their Summer/Winter homes more for residency.  Many make more money from unearned income (capital gains) anyway.  Actual working people making 200K+ will be the ones hammered by the new taxes. 

26

These troglodytes think that they know absolutely everything there is to know; that they are at the pinnacle of human development.

-------

This is why I find it so important to point out how stupid they are.

Modern socialism isn't a Dictatorship of the Proletariat. Even before the revolution, the Bolsheviks knew that putting the proles in charge would be a bad idea. You needed a supreme elite to rule over everybody.

Why do they vote for Obama?  Because he's "smart".  It's oh, so important for the elite in charge to be ubermensches.

But in this country, our elites aren't problem-solvers. Even if they are truly intelligent, their appreciation only goes as far as the type of literature analysis that you saw with the praise of Obama's book.

In fact, almost all of the social sciences is about judging how you sound.

27 Look at he bright side, if Farheed is talking about the budget he's not talking about the middle east and north africa.

28

Of course a dictatorship of the proletariat is like any other dictatorship.  Five minutes after moving from the assembly line to deciding who lives or dies the "worker" becomes the same entitled, know-it-all, dictatorial asshole like any other dictator in monarchy, junta, Islamic state, or fascism.

One (of many) amazingly stupid underlying assumptions of socialism is that workers and owners are fundamentally different types of people instead of shaped by their roles in life. 

 

29 Also, if I showed any of these charts to my mom, her standard answer is "well that was Bush's fault and Obama got stuck with it". There is just no getting through to her.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton
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Which is why I question Paul Ryan putting forth his budget at this point in time.  I think it may prove to be a big tactical error.

I think we had a lot of retirees on our side in the last election.  I believe that support is now gone with Ryan's proposals on Medicare.  Why would you even touch that third rail when you know at the get go it has no chance of passing?  Who are you making a statement to? That is all that budget could ever be - a symbolic statement.

Obama's got all the minorities.. all the liberals, of course.. all the states that depend on the teat of big government.  But we kinda had the elderly vote on our side.  Now?  Not so much.

Obambi's chance in 2012 just went up in my book.  I wonder if the odds in Vegas have changed...

30

OT........... hey CDR M.......... Talledega is coming on Fox now. what did you think of the last few laps yesterday?

31

This one deserves a sidebar, I think:

Will liberals learn to love Ricardo Sanchez?

Retired Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez is likely running as a Dem for the Senate seat in Texas being vacated by Kay Bailey Hutchinson.

It's become a standard MO now for Rahm Emanuel & co.: Recruit a person with a military background who has never opined on politics before, hopefully a minority, knowing that the Dems will vote in lockstep and the GOP-leaning independents will vote for the biography thinking that it conveys some conservative credentials.

Here's the problem: "A 2004 panel that investigated prisoner abuse found Sanchez, once the nationÂ’s highest-ranking Hispanic officer, was derelict in overseeing Iraqi detention," according to RedState.

And compounding the stupid: "Senator Patty Murray, who steers the Democrats’ Senate campaign arm and vaguely teased reporters earlier this week of a top Texas recruit, said in 2004 that all those responsible for Abu Ghraib — no matter where they fell in the chain of command — must be held to account for their actions." [Again, from RedState.]

The biggest surprise here isn't the hypocrisy but the notion that they would put Patty Murray in charge of anything.  Who knew?

32 leftist theories are all based on the simple-minded notion of an essentially static world.

To them, the whole world can be captured by a polaroid.

33 The rich won't pay any more in taxes no matter what the rate because loopholes are written in. You don't think rich leftists like Buffett or Soros really want to pay more do you? Wouldn't paying those big tax rates leave less money to donate to politicians, and wouldn't eliminating loopholes eliminate lobbying $$ that the DC leeches depend on?

Not that it would matter anyway, because either the rich take their business elsewhere, or they just say fuck it and stop investing or expanding.

Remember all the money that was going to come pouring in from the yacht taxes? None of the money came in and it put a lot of domestic boat builders out of business.

34

The environmental side of this, regulation systematically crushing economically viable industries, is just as important as the spending side of this.  Increasing government revenues could actually be accomplished by the EPA, well, by shutting a lot of it down anyway.

Cutting government spending is not the same as stripping power away from Fedzilla and freeing up the private sector. But good luck getting the GOP to understand this, or at least talk about it.

35 You're underestimating Fareed Zakaria. He's a 5th columnist not a sycophant, useful idiot or liberal tool.

36

Posted by: CDR M at April 17, 2011 12:18 PM (5I8G0)

yes theyshould have let them goto the flag............ i thought for a second the one upside down was going through Jr's windshield tho.

37 Since tax reductions are "costs" to the Leftists and other government sponges, Jugears "spending cuts" are completely composed of tax hikes and fantasies about Obamacare savings.

Reductions in tax rates = spending

Increases in entitlements and pork = investment

They shouldn't have made a movie from Atlas Shrugged, they should have made it from Animal Farm

38

AmishDude, the Democrats do the awesome stupid.  After heaping abuse on Sanchez over Abu Gharib, they now push him forward as a candidate.  All the Republicans have to do in Texas is ask why the Democrats think Sanchez is a good candidate after they slandered him in 2004 over Abu Gharib.

Be not ashamed of mistakes and thus make them crimes. - Confucious  

39 You don't think rich leftists like Buffett or Soros really want to pay more do you?

"More" to them isn't really more.  They don't think that rates are going up to 90% for them again and even if it does, Buffett's company will just pay for all of his personal expenses.

ace has talked about this before.  To guys like that, a marginal tax increase is nothing.  The fluctuations of the stock market from day to day have more of an influence on their personal wealth than a tax increase.  It's a rounding error to them and it certainly doesn't effect their lifestyle.

40 All the Republicans have to do in Texas is ask why the Democrats think Sanchez is a good candidate after they slandered him in 2004 over Abu Gharib. ignore him, he will lose badly.

41 The MBM kneepad and hanky budget needs to be eliminated immediately. We'll save billions.

42

Posted by: Scrubbing Bubble at April 17, 2011 12:23 PM (JEvSn)

Yep, pure propaganda.

43 From your link CDR M


Obama Administration Considers Altering U.S. Military's Global Role
Warning: HuffPuff link

......

I have two nephews that have both fought in AssCrackastan, both have received an ass load of medals/honors, yet both are getting out.

They said it isn't that Afghanistan is unwinnable, it is that American policies (ROE) are guaranteeing that we don't win.  They have both separately said that our men are also not receiving the supplies that higher ups swear they are receiving. 

Both questioned whether there is some slight of hand where the gov't is saying they are buying X,Y,Z but are actually slipping the money into some slush-fund for something else (BO's re-election, green comp., who knows?!)

44

Remember: Obama already admitted that he does not care if tax hikes do not increase revenue to the treasury (which they historically do not) - Democrat tax hikes are to punish success, kill jobs, and make life "fair".

 

45 ZH has a clickable map with average gas prices by state

Not surprisingly, HI and CA have the highest. Surprisingly NJ is among the lowest.
 

46

Took some time to read through the Progressive Caucus' Peoples Budget released this week in the name of opposition research.  Same static thinking throughout.

They really hate investment earnings (dividends and capital gains) and they hate oil, coal, nat gas, and nuke-u-ler industries, wanting to end all tax preference items for their hate targets.  IIRC isn't that some kind of facism?

Just bring all the troops home in 2012 and let the chip fall where they may in the ME.

Remove the cap on taxed SS earnings, replace with a 10% exclusion on the worker's half, no exclusion on the employer's half.  Then just assume employment will rise.  No accounting for employers thinning the ranks of the well paid due to the increased cost of SS taxes. 

47

Yeah, that got Jr.'s attention judging by how he veered into the back of that other car and spun him out!

Posted by: CDR M at April 17, 2011 12:27 PM (5I8G0)

yes it did........  he got sideways real fast getting out of the way..........

48 I am Elmer J Fudd, millionaire. I own a mansion and a yacht

49

Fareed Zakaria:

His major accompishment has been to drive Newsweek into the ground.

 

50

As for this automatic trigger idea.  We need to hammer it home how dangerous this is.  It is one of Congress' enumerated powers to levy taxes and this is accomplished via bills and votes.  But, like all those blue-ribbon commissions, this trigger takes the voting portion out and shifts blame.  Which means all those Democrat Representatives can then go to their voters and say its not their fault that the voters' tax rate is now at 50%.  it saves them from doing the hard thing while keeping them on the government payroll.

An analogy I guess would be of a bar.  Instead of the bar cutting off the beer to all the alcholics, the bar pours even more beer down their throats.  And the bar knows it will be paid by the alcholics's families no matter what.  Or something like that.

51 How does the budget get tied to a particular party anyway?  It should be a bipartisan effort, not an effort to get the seniors to go against the republicans. 

And, if the seniors don't' realize that medicare and obamacare are intrinsically entwined then they are in for a big surprise.

The older folks I know work in the private sector.  They actually are beginning to despise the people they call "the hippy dippies when we were in college who glided through sociology and we figured wouldn't get any job at all but cab driver".  The private sector older types really do resent the "assholes who could only get a government job and now want us to support their million dollar pensions, social security and medicare".   I've heard this a lot, a lot of resentment cause the private sector group, the group who was apparently at the time, the smarter more employable group, doesn't have nearly the kind of retirement security as the "dolts" (as they call them) who worked in the government in jobs no one else wanted and would be embarrassed to take.  Eventually the private sector seniors will separate from the public sector ones.  the real danger is that more people will be working for the government and getting all these great perks and everyone else will be in the private sector supporting them.  As it is drudge has something about 40%+ not paying taxes.

But I see a coming skirmish coming with the old folks.  the ones who really worked are getting tired of the government ones.

52 61 I am Elmer J Fudd, millionaire. I own a mansion and a yacht

Posted by: Elmer J Fudd at April 17, 2011 12:34 PM (vdfwz)

not me........ but i have spent the weekend sleeping in a tent with a kids blow up pool that we used for a hot tube in the Talladage infield before.

 

53 LOL AmishDude, its better to prepare the battlefield and render ineffective an opponent than ignore that opponent to later find him chewing your flank off.  But it is Texas, should be interesting if Sanchez is the Democrats annointed one.

54

"Obama's latest speech on debt reduction was so deceitful; space doesnÂ’t permit a full rebuttal.  But one demagogic lie - reducing tax rates for the rich contributes to deficits - is easily destroyed by statistics.

Write a tax rate percentage figure on a piece of paper and put it next to a dollar bill.  The one can be deposited in the bank, the other can't.  that's the difference between "tax rates" and "tax revenues."

When the rich pay taxes, the federal government doesnÂ’t bank a tax rate, it banks actual dollars. And 50 years of IRS data show that every time tax rates have been reduced, the amount of actual tax dollar revenue received by the government increases whereas higher tax rates result in less than expected revenue.  Why? Because higher tax rates cause companies to reinvest less in their businesses and individuals work less, resulting in a weaker overall economy.  Thus a higher tax "rate" never translates into the actual dollars that rate would mathematically generate."

--continued next

55

"IRS statists prove this: since 1960 the top marginal tax rate has varied from a high of 91 percent to a low of 35 percent.  Yet in no year has the total amount collected in taxes exceeded 15 to 20 percent of GDP.  The elasticity of tax rates to revenue production was again proven a decade ago when the “luxury yacht tax” was attempted.  People stopped buying yachts and the whole food-chain of people employed in the yachting industry collapsed economically.

Raise the tax rates for the top 2 percent and the economy again collapses.  If my 11 year old granddaughter can understand this, why canÂ’t liberals?"

^-R.Eggers.

Re-printed w/out permission from the Open Forum of some newspaper.

56 There are so many common sense questions that I'd love to see relentlessly asked of the left, such as: What is stopping lefty multi-gazzilion-airs from just simply "donating" a large percentage of their vast fortunes to the government to help pay down the shortfall?  Buffett, Gates, Soros, Heinz - come on guys, step up.  Put your money where your mouth is.  Give until it hurts as much as the avg American middle class family is hurting right now.  Look at what heros you could be by showing the distinction between the rich and the evil rich....well, we're waiting.... 

57 Common sense questions are why you'll never see the MBM ask them of the left.

58 Lessee, my dishonest liberal toolbox includes my 82 degree teleprompter tee square, an Obama Brand shovel for shovel ready projects, my Obama Brand tax calculator that converts terminology 180 degrees from the truth, my Bernanke Qualitative Easer, my defense cutter, several campaign contributions washers, all kinds of assorted nuts, my super energized shit sandwich maker, my Al Gore inconvenient drill bit, my Bill Clinton screwdriver, some dirty union plugs, and my John Kerry boonie hat to keep the sun out of my eyes.

59 Another pahtetic liar and all around lowlife little reptile can anyone get lower then this little lizard

60

So Obama adds on a new entitlement which grabs 500B from medicare, then presents the lie to the CBO and the CBO bound by statutory stricture over prudence, scores the garbage; garbage called Obamacare which says that over 10 years Obamacare will be rev neutral.  Accept for the first of the 10 years there are no corresponding benefits EXCEPT for the fact taxes and multitudes of new taxes will be taken from the public to fund the 6 years of services on the 10 year horizon the White House asked the CBO to score.

And then Obama presents a FY 2012 budget that spends approximately $3.73 Trillion.  Only problem is... is the fact the U.S. takes in a mere $2.2 Trillion in gross revenue.  So Obama's proposing we heap on another $1.5 Trillion on the National Debt... that's already around $14 Trillion.

And guess what folks?  The above doesn't even factor in Obamacare a 2,700 page law that creates countless agencies and madates and new rules and departments.  One of the new rules by the way is that NO Doctors can, going forward, own Hospitals.  Hmmmm that's an interesting stricture in the home of the free and land of the brave wherein we operate in a Capitalist system, with Adam Smiths invisible hand.

Obama's economic hand ain't invisible.... well, yes it is... it's so far up our ass, it's rearragning our duodenom.

CDR M.  Good post baby. 

 

61 Shove him back in his mother's twat.

62 The biggest surprise here isn't the hypocrisy but the notion that they would put Patty Murray in charge of anything.
She's in charge of building daycares in Afghanistan.

63 The 12yr plan offering is one of the strangest things about Obama's proposal. You would think the WH knows the budget window is 10yrs.

64 It's like having your 4 yo doing the family financial budget. With dull crayons. Posted by: GnuBreed at April 17, 2011 11:33 AM (bvXGR) That might actually work better. At least the 4 y/o would know to stop spending when he ran out of money.

65 Let's see, Muslim broadcaster supports Muslim President. Shocked I tells ya. Oh that's right, I forgot the President is a Christian.

66 Oh.

Fucking Fantastic!

I am the biggest douche-bag in the entire world now, officially.

That one dog?

The one with the single sleigh bell (BTW, you can't unhear fucking sleigh bells, singularly or in chains if you've ever driven horses) that I have been hearing for too many damn months after Christmas now?

It's Amy.

Amy is an Irish Setter/ Aussie mix.  I've seen her around the complex.  Briefly.

She is owned by a crippled old man who apparently trained her to hunt.

So. 

Me in my jealousy of anyone enjoying their dawg, heard a sleigh bell, out front and out back about a bajillion times and finally decided to do something about it.

Today.

Great.

Saw dawg, found dawg, reeled her in.

Amy is very obedient (although a bit too "pawey", for my taste) and brought me right back home to her master.

Who is a crippled old man trying to get her into his car to take her to the dog park.

"Okay.  Well, see that you do. Exercise would be good for her, I'd bet!"

(Alternatively, I could just beat the crap out of you with your walker, old man!)

ISTG, I probably menaced the poor bastard with my general demeanor as I helped him and the dog into his car.

I don't know why, I was so pissed off.

But I really was.

Even though I was "being helpful" .

I am such a major douche-bag!

WTF should I care if a trained hunting dawg runs around the complex,on her own, with a jingle bell?

I am a jerk.

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