October 27, 2011
— DrewM I honestly don't understand how some people come by a reputation as a serious thinker. Exhibit Number 1, Fareed Zakaria, who I like to think of as a younger and dumber Tom Friedman.
He knows exactly what the problem with our Iran policy is...Obama won't talk to them.
Early in the 2008 presidential campaign, Barack Obama signaled that he was going to break with the Bush administration’s Manichean foreign policy. The topic was Iran. He explained repeatedly that the Bush policy of simply pressuring Iran was not working and that he would be willing to talk to the country’s leaders to find ways to reduce tensions and dangers. Two years into his presidency, Obama’s Iran policy looks a lot like George W. Bush’s — with some of the same problems that candidate Obama pointed out two years ago.To be fair, the administration started out in 2009 by making overtures to Iran, which were rebuffed by its supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. Then it watched as the Green movement rattled the regime. But the result is that the administration has lapsed into a policy of pressure, pressure and more pressure.
The punitive tactics have paid off in some measure. Iran faces economic problems. But the tactics are also having a perverse impact on the country, as I saw during a brief visit to Tehran last week. The sanctions are stifling growth, though not as much as one might imagine because Iran has oil money and a large internal market. Their basic effect has been to weaken civil society and strengthen the state — the opposite of what we should be trying to do in that country.
And then Zakaria gets silly.
Within the context of Iranian politics, Ahmadinejad is the pragmatist.
I really like how Zakaria just glosses over the fact that Obama's outreach, which included a very muted reaction to the slaughter of Iranians, was rebuffed. Clearly that rebuff called for more outreach!
Missing from the piece (aside from any sense of reality)? Any mention of Iran's role in supplying weapons used to kill Americans in both Iraq and Afghanistan. Also left out is Iran's long standing commitment to terrorism including the recent plot to kill .
This is the problem, well one of them anyway, with people who advocate sanctions, never ending diplomacy and abhor even the threat of military force. Eventually they start to complain that the sanctions aren't effective but that making them any harsher won't work or will only hurt helpless people. Yet time and time again they push for this track.
It doesn't seem to occur to or bother Zakaria that by his own admission his preferred policy of "strategic engagement" has been tried and failed. Being a respected public intellectual liberal means never having to say you're sorry or even make any sense at all.
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Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at October 27, 2011 01:58 PM (UR5vq)
Double the verbal and add the math. That's your PSAT score and now the SAT has gone the same way. People often confuse smooth-talking bullshit with reason.
It's also the social scientific method:
(1) Develop a hypothesis that reinforces your political biases.
(2) Test the hypothesis against data by filtering out data that might contradict the hypothesis.
(3) If the hypothesis is countered by the data, reject the data -- it must be flawed.
(4) Go to 2. Stop when the hypothesis is not contradicted by the data. This may not ever happen.
Posted by: AmishDude at October 27, 2011 01:59 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at October 27, 2011 01:59 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: joeindc44 at October 27, 2011 02:02 PM (QxSug)
He gets so close to the truth with that statement- and still misses the point.
Sanctions don't work against Barbarians- their leaders don't care about their people. Indeed, in the modern world, we're unlikely ever to need/want to levy sanctions on anyone against whom sanctions would be effective.
However: If someone is not reasonable enough to understand why sanctions that hurt their people are bad, then they are not reasonable enough to negotiate. The only answer left is violence- either actual, or a credible threat of.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at October 27, 2011 02:03 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: I'm in a New York state of mind at October 27, 2011 02:03 PM (4sQwu)
Posted by: steevy at October 27, 2011 02:04 PM (fyOgS)
Fixed that for Fareed, who got his job on tv because he is a Muslim who presumably does not want to kill Americans.
Posted by: huerfano at October 27, 2011 02:05 PM (fecOD)
What a fucking tool.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 27, 2011 02:05 PM (SY2Kh)
When your only tool is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail. But when your only tool is bending over, every problem looks like John.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at October 27, 2011 02:05 PM (8y9MW)
Yes, because Western rationalism will overwhelm his 7th century belief in a 12th Imam. If Obama would just have a heart to heart chat with Ahmadinnerjacket, all would be well. It's the revanchist Jooos who are pushing for war with the peace loving people of Iran and their pragmatic leaders.
Or something like that. It would be better if I had my neighbor beat me over the head with a bat before I try again.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at October 27, 2011 02:06 PM (UYLrj)
Posted by: I'm in a New York state of mind at October 27, 2011 06:03 PM (4sQwu)
If I were president, I wouldn't even call them Iranians. I'd call them Persians.
It's really amazing what a hold Islam can have on a people that the proud Persians would be so dedicated to it even though it's obviously an Arab invention.
Posted by: AmishDude at October 27, 2011 02:06 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: nevergiveup at October 27, 2011 02:06 PM (i6RpT)
Posted by: George Pickett at October 27, 2011 02:07 PM (WXMFA)
Posted by: Freaked at October 27, 2011 02:07 PM (PQSj0)
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at October 27, 2011 02:08 PM (GKQDR)
Posted by: The 5th Element at October 27, 2011 02:08 PM (p/bp2)
Posted by: nevergiveup at October 27, 2011 02:08 PM (i6RpT)
He's an Indian from Mumbai, married to Paula Throckmorton, who I believe comes from money...lots of money. And I recall an article about them being separated.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at October 27, 2011 02:10 PM (UYLrj)
Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.
But, no, that's not official enough, I'm afraid.
Actually, part of me is afraid that Obama wants us to suffer an actual military defeat- he just can't figure out how to arrange one.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at October 27, 2011 02:10 PM (8y9MW)
The Arabs came up with it but we gave it panache.
Posted by: The Safavids at October 27, 2011 02:10 PM (QKKT0)
Posted by: steevy at October 27, 2011 02:12 PM (fyOgS)
What? Turn our backs on an idea that would let us legitimize our desire for complete world dominion? Are you silly?
Posted by: Persia at October 27, 2011 02:13 PM (8y9MW)
And added just a soupcon of insanity (as if it needed more).
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at October 27, 2011 02:13 PM (UYLrj)
Posted by: ktgreat at October 27, 2011 02:13 PM (hqGID)
No, they really didn't. I don't know anybody (not that my circle of acquaintances and co-workers is statistically relevant) who believes we lost, militarily, in Vietnam.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at October 27, 2011 02:14 PM (8y9MW)
Can we put an end to the lie that Amahdinijihad is not liked and supported by the Imams in the regime?
For years they've been saying this. Trust me, the Imams, who are his puppet masters, love him.
Posted by: soothsayer at October 27, 2011 02:15 PM (sqkOB)
Like dismantling the last H bomb. We could have delivered it to their nuclear site
via a 50,000 foot drop. Would that help, Fareed?
Posted by: roman maroni at October 27, 2011 02:15 PM (KCCgc)
Considering the fact he'd be in private life, exiled, or dead if they didn't, I concur.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at October 27, 2011 02:15 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: nevergiveup at October 27, 2011 02:16 PM (i6RpT)
When your only tool is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail.
Either that, or you've got a sickle handy......
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 27, 2011 02:18 PM (G+B5p)
Posted by: JackStraw at October 27, 2011 02:18 PM (TMB3S)
Posted by: Freaked at October 27, 2011 02:19 PM (PQSj0)
Considering the fact he'd be in private life, exiled, or dead if they didn't, I concur.
No shit, right? The guy is a midget and a ninny, but somehow we're supposed to believe that, through the democratic process in Iran and by his wiles, Ahmadinijihad is President despite the will of the Ayotollahs.
Posted by: soothsayer at October 27, 2011 02:19 PM (sqkOB)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 27, 2011 02:19 PM (AF1jB)
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Posted by: Tami-Cardinals! at October 27, 2011 02:20 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at October 27, 2011 06:10 PM (8y9MW)
All liberals want an actual military defeat. If America suffers a humiliating, military defeat then the greatest military force in the history of the world won't be so easily unleashed the next time. And there would be peace and rainbows and everyone would love each other.
This is why every 'innocent' death of anyone is turned into a huge tragedy and a big media story. The liberals think that making people aware of the horrors of war will prevent future wars. In reality, it makes the population and the nation weak setting up something even worse down the road.
Could you imagine today's media reporting on what was done to win World War 2?
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at October 27, 2011 02:20 PM (GKQDR)
Posted by: Tami-Cardinals! at October 27, 2011 02:20 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: soothsayer at October 27, 2011 06:15 PM (sqkOB)
He's Bad Cop.
Posted by: AmishDude at October 27, 2011 02:21 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: alexthechick at October 27, 2011 02:21 PM (Gk3SS)
The other lie:
Back in 2005? we were told not to worry about Iran because they are ten years away from nuclear proliferation.
Well, guess what is only 3 years away?
Plus it was stupid of the "experts" and Democrats to say don't worry because what they really meant is let's kick this can down the road.
Oh, and Bush is wrong to be concerned about a nuclear Iran.
Posted by: soothsayer at October 27, 2011 02:22 PM (sqkOB)
For years they've been saying this. Trust me, the Imams, who are his puppet masters, love him.
Agreed. They along with the Supreme Mullah would not have helped Ahmedinejad stay in power after the 2008 election if they didn't agree with what Ahmedinejad was doing with Iran.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at October 27, 2011 02:22 PM (UR5vq)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 27, 2011 06:18 PM (G+B5p)
"When the only tools you have are a hammer and a sickle, every problem looks like class warfare."Posted by: Wm T Sherman at October 27, 2011 02:22 PM (w41GQ)
Does anyone here believe that Ahmadinijihad does anything at all without the approval of the Mullahs/Ayatollahs?
Posted by: soothsayer at October 27, 2011 02:24 PM (sqkOB)
Posted by: nevergiveup at October 27, 2011 02:26 PM (i6RpT)
I highly doubt it.
How many Ayatollahs does it take to lift Ahmadinijihad onto the toilet?
Twelve. Eleven to ask Allah if it is permissible, and one to pick him up.
Posted by: soothsayer at October 27, 2011 02:28 PM (sqkOB)
The sanctions are stifling growth, though not as much as one might imagine because Iran has oil money and a large internal market. Their basic effect has been to weaken civil society and strengthen the state — the opposite of what we should be trying to do in that country.
We Americans are also very familiar with the SCOAMF's policies.
Posted by: Soona - stocking up on ammo at October 27, 2011 02:29 PM (y0bJs)
His distorted contributions fall into the growing mountain of dreck that is diversity waste product, and belong at the landfill.
Posted by: ontherocks at October 27, 2011 02:30 PM (HBqDo)
Zakaria is smug. Infinitely smug. When I've seen him on video he always has it pretty easy, nice friendly environment. Any examples showing him being taken outside his comfort zone, and how he reacted?
Posted by: Wm T Sherman at October 27, 2011 02:30 PM (w41GQ)
Posted by: dagny at October 27, 2011 02:30 PM (rmDVL)
Oh my, yes. The Bombing of Dresden? The assault on Iwo Jima? Heck, Midway would have been screamed over for years.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at October 27, 2011 02:30 PM (8y9MW)
What you see is what we got, mister.
Posted by: Iran - The Fast Food Joint at October 27, 2011 02:32 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: nevergiveup at October 27, 2011 02:32 PM (i6RpT)
Posted by: izoneguy at October 27, 2011 02:33 PM (i6Neb)
the resignation of the OPD chief is timely
Iran, supposedly, plots terrorism on US soil and this Fareed Cocksuckaria suggests we open a dialogue with them.
In Oakland, a police chief is run out of town for protecting the public interest and hurting feeling and ruffling feather.
boned, are we?
Posted by: soothsayer at October 27, 2011 02:33 PM (sqkOB)
Posted by: izoneguy at October 27, 2011 02:34 PM (i6Neb)
Posted by: the 12th Imam at October 27, 2011 02:35 PM (+56Bh)
posted by: soothsayer at October 27, 2011 06:33 PM (sqkOB)
We're just setting up for a long, white hot, cleansing fire.
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at October 27, 2011 02:35 PM (GKQDR)
And don't forget that it's stupid to open exploration in some places because that oil won't come online for at least ten years.
Posted by: 1990's and early 2000's at October 27, 2011 02:37 PM (sqkOB)
Isn't manichean one of the spambots here at AoS?
A third century religion that viewed everything in terms of good and evil? Spambots would fall under evil. Morons? Hard to tell.
Posted by: dagny at October 27, 2011 02:38 PM (rmDVL)
Posted by: observer at October 27, 2011 02:39 PM (FFXeg)
There's no oil there, anyway.
But even if there is oil, which there isn't, it won't be refined for another 10 years.
Thank you, Democrats and pussy Republican majorities, you giant a-holes.
Posted by: 1990's and early 2000's at October 27, 2011 02:39 PM (sqkOB)
74Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure. Oh, and Fareed Zakaria can blow me!
I could tell you something about Fareed. Let's just say he has smooth teeth. I swear on my sacred honor.
Posted by: Will Folkes at October 27, 2011 02:39 PM (/E3ql)
Posted by: Fritz at October 27, 2011 02:40 PM (FabC8)
Too late, Keithy.
Posted by: Do.I.Make.My.Self.Clear?!!11!! at October 27, 2011 02:41 PM (B0LGd)
Posted by: Mahmoud Imadinnerjacket at October 27, 2011 02:41 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Waterhouse at October 27, 2011 02:41 PM (1soa9)
Posted by: Mahmoud Imadinnerjacket at October 27, 2011 02:42 PM (MMC8r)
Look, folks. All of this was pre-arranged before the SCOAMF was inaugerated. As far as the SCOAMF is concerned, besides a little variability and some tweeking here and there, everything is going according to plan.
Zakaria is just reading from the dem script.
Posted by: Soona - stocking up on ammo at October 27, 2011 02:43 PM (y0bJs)
Posted by: 1990's and early 2000's at October 27, 2011 06:37 PM (sqkOB)
And it's not like $5 Trillion dollars couldn't have helped America get set up for a few generations of cheap energy.
We have a Western generation plus who have been raised on the lies that something or someone suffers with every bite they eat, with everything they buy, with every breath they take. Oh what a world they'll create.
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at October 27, 2011 02:44 PM (GKQDR)
Fareed is full of great ideas. We should compile them.
And then make Fareed the Face of the Democrat Party.
Posted by: Soothsayer at October 27, 2011 02:45 PM (sqkOB)
Posted by: Berserker at October 27, 2011 02:45 PM (FMbng)
And it's not like $5 Trillion dollars couldn't have helped America get set up for a few generations of cheap energy.
And fuck those jobs, who needs 'em!
Posted by: Soothsayer at October 27, 2011 02:45 PM (sqkOB)
Posted by: Leonitus at October 27, 2011 02:47 PM (rmDVL)
meanhile in East Bumfuck, North Dakota...
the economy is booming, per CNN.
It's old news, but CNN did cover the story on Wednesday about how well they're doing in a part of North Dakota with their, I dunno, shale oil discovery.
I forget.
Posted by: Soothsayer at October 27, 2011 02:48 PM (sqkOB)
Nihilists create nothing. Which is what most of the resulting specimen are.
What's the quote? "Burn MotherF*cker! Burn!"
Posted by: Iran - The Fast Food Joint at October 27, 2011 02:48 PM (8y9MW)
Well that just promotes him up from Asshole of the Democratic Party.
Posted by: Berserker at October 27, 2011 02:49 PM (FMbng)
I'm kind of glad I'm not looking at that. I'd probably put my fist through my monitor.
Posted by: Iran - The Fast Food Joint at October 27, 2011 02:49 PM (8y9MW)
Fareed Zakaria's a fifth columnist. He's not stupid, just actively undermining our nation.
Posted by: Not Drinking Nearly Enough at October 27, 2011 02:49 PM (HtUdo)
Posted by: Soothsayer at October 27, 2011 06:45 PM (sqkOB)
Canada's having to pull teeth to talk America into building that pipeline to deliver all of that nice Canadian oil. And our government has been working like hell to get a second bridge built from Windsor, Ontario to Detroit, Michigan which is the busiest, international trade corridor in the world and desperately needs a new bridge.
You'd think that an INFRASTRUCTURE project like a NEW, FREAKING BRIDGE would be well under way by now, wouldn't you?
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at October 27, 2011 02:51 PM (GKQDR)
I could have sworn I'd already changed that sock.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at October 27, 2011 02:55 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Soona - stocking up on ammo at October 27, 2011 02:55 PM (y0bJs)
I really like how Zakaria just glosses over the fact that Obama's outreach, which included a very muted reaction to the slaughter of Iranians, was rebuffed. Clearly that rebuff called for more outreach!
Could it be that putting on-air people who are so utterly disconnected to reality that any fool knows they would get us all killed within weeks if they were given a position of responsibility for our security... like, I wonder if putting them forward as flagship symbols of the brand has anything to do with the fact that most of the MSM is going tits-up? Just speculating, you know?
Posted by: sherlock at October 27, 2011 02:58 PM (8ra42)
Economic collapse created by Wall Street? I say yes.
Posted by: Mobil at October 27, 2011 02:59 PM (EHEmJ)
More firefighters.
More more.
Posted by: Obama admin and Congress at October 27, 2011 06:53 PM (sqkOB)
#OWS wants more free range chicken. (BTW, and a little O/T: Those #OWS protesters are really going to be pissed when they find out the kitchen staff have been serving them regular chicken bought in bulk at Costco).
Posted by: Soona - stocking up on ammo at October 27, 2011 02:59 PM (y0bJs)
He has no loyalty to America.
Fuck him. The worst thing about him is he's surprisingly young. He's only 47 even though he looks like a walking corpse. He looks like the vampire from Fright Night - the original. Just an unnatural looking piece of traitorous dirt.
So, we're gonna have this franken-traitor haunting US public policy for decades to come.
Hopefully he gets cancer or something. Just fuck him. Waste of humanity. He already looks like fucking human tumor.
Posted by: Clubber Lang at October 27, 2011 03:00 PM (QcFbt)
Posted by: Soona - stocking up on ammo at October 27, 2011 06:55 PM (y0bJs)
We're on the brink.
But how many are kind of anxious for it to start?
I understand we all want to be better prepared personally. But still, how many are kind of thinking I wish this would all burn so we can get it over with and restart?
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at October 27, 2011 03:01 PM (GKQDR)
You're free to off yourself anytime, raykon, if you're so convinced that's the problem. Do it. Eat that fucking bullet.
Or are you just another little hypocritical coward?
Posted by: Waterhouse at October 27, 2011 03:03 PM (1soa9)
It's not only you, friend. Sometimes I just sit at the computer dumbfounded at some of the headlines that go across the news feeds. It's too damn much at times.
In the end... (you all know how it ends).
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at October 27, 2011 03:04 PM (UR5vq)
Future History Book:
World War Three officially started October 29, when the patriots of the Occupy Wall Street movement discovered that the kitchen staff were replacing their organic, free range chicken with regular chicken bought in bulk from Costco.
The resulting 500 million lives lost....
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at October 27, 2011 03:04 PM (GKQDR)
It always is. Show me a period of time, and either it was a cataclysm or one was coming very soon.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 27, 2011 03:05 PM (uhAkr)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 27, 2011 03:05 PM (AF1jB)
It's not only you, friend. Sometimes I just sit at the computer dumbfounded at some of the headlines that go across the news feeds. It's too damn much at times.
In the end... (you all know how it ends).
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at October 27, 2011 07:04 PM (UR5vq)
===
Whipped cream covered hookers and Ewok jugglers?
Posted by: Do.I.Make.My.Self.Clear?!!11!! at October 27, 2011 03:05 PM (B0LGd)
Posted by: Mobil at October 27, 2011 03:06 PM (EHEmJ)
I understand we all want to be better prepared personally. But still, how many are kind of thinking I wish this would all burn so we can get it over with and restart?
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at October 27, 2011 07:01 PM (GKQDR)
I always say that I am one of those people, but then I start thinking about how it would become a literal "biblical tribulation". It wouldn't be fun. As a matter of fact, it would be fucking horrible.
Posted by: Soona - stocking up on ammo at October 27, 2011 03:06 PM (y0bJs)
Really? The Western world is going to enter a crisis when its greying population "retires" en masse and realizes there aren't enough young workers to fund their bennies.
This chaos we're experiencing now is only the beginning.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at October 27, 2011 03:06 PM (UR5vq)
Posted by: Mobil
The Federal government sets the rules so the obviously it's Wall Streets fault.
Hey, Leftard, just fuck off to the worker's paradise of North Korea already. You shits cowards without conviction.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 27, 2011 03:07 PM (jczFB)
Posted by: Do.I.Make.My.Self.Clear?!!11!! at October 27, 2011 07:05 PM (B0LGd)
At least you'll go out happy, 
.
Myself, I think I'm going to go into a corner and start drinking heavily, praying that the cirrhosis kills me before extreme depression and/or paranoia does.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at October 27, 2011 03:08 PM (UR5vq)
Not another word until you implement your recommended policy and have a 45 caliber snack. Do it. Coward.
Posted by: Waterhouse at October 27, 2011 03:08 PM (1soa9)
Posted by: Mobil
The Federal government sets the rules so the obviously it's Wall Streets fault."
Hey fucktrard, wall street said they would police themselves, and here we are.
Posted by: Mobil at October 27, 2011 03:08 PM (EHEmJ)
Whipped cream covered hookers and Ewok jugglers?
Posted by: Do.I.Make.My.Self.Clear?!!11!! at October 27, 2011 07:05 PM (B0LGd)
Add some hobo meat and you may have something.
Posted by: Soona - stocking up on ammo at October 27, 2011 03:09 PM (y0bJs)
Why are you still here? John Holdren says culling the population starts with you. Do it.
Posted by: Waterhouse at October 27, 2011 03:09 PM (1soa9)
The United Nations is celebrating a planet with seven billion people. But some projections now warn that the global population may actually start shrinking.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at October 27, 2011 03:09 PM (UR5vq)
This chaos we're experiencing now is only the beginning. "
Im so scared. The commies are coming, the commies are coming, same deal.
Stupid repugs.
Posted by: Mobil at October 27, 2011 03:11 PM (EHEmJ)
Posted by: Soona - stocking up on ammo at October 27, 2011 07:06 PM (y0bJs)
We're being dragged to that tipping point where the pain of going through the fucking horrible is going to outweigh the pain of not doing anything.
It's probably going to be something small and stupid that pushes someone over the edge. That person hollers "I CAN'T STAND THIS ANYMORE!!", that person's side joins in and then all hell breaks loose.
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at October 27, 2011 03:11 PM (GKQDR)
Posted by: Mobil at October 27, 2011 07:08 PM (EHEmJ)
You mean while Barney Frank was fucking the guy who ran Fannie Mae, or when Chris Dodd was giving Countrywide sweet deals?
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 27, 2011 03:11 PM (uhAkr)
Have the courage of your convictions. It doesn't have to be a gun. Step in front of a bus, if you prefer. Why don't you have courage, raykon?
Posted by: Waterhouse at October 27, 2011 03:12 PM (1soa9)
"We need more teachers."
No, we need to set up several "B" Arks, and disguise them as the venues of the upcoming Democratic Party convention, SEIU convention, NEA convention, ACLU convention, etc.
Then, on the 4th of July...
Posted by: sherlock at October 27, 2011 03:13 PM (8ra42)
Posted by: hutch1200 at October 27, 2011 03:13 PM (eDgEj)
Posted by: Do.I.Make.My.Self.Clear?!!11!! at October 27, 2011 03:14 PM (B0LGd)
Children, women and minorities hardest hit.
Posted by: NYT at October 27, 2011 07:06 PM (vbh31)
Muslims very hardest hit.
Because when you're going to go through the trouble of an entire civilizational collapse, you might as well take out all of the garbage. And Europe is just itching for an excuse to take out the garbage...
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at October 27, 2011 03:14 PM (GKQDR)
And for a fuckwad traitor like Zakaria ... it's not like he'll ever change his mind. I don't want left-wing traitors to be in positions of power -- but there's nothing I can do. Especially in Zakaria's case where it's not that he hold elective office. He's just a highly influential traitor.
I guess I can moderate it so I hope he just suffers a debilitating disease or stroke or something that removes his ability to speak or renders him hideous to look at so he's no longer on TV.
That's the best I can hope for Zakaria -- that he visits India and gets a horrible case of malaria or some tropical disease and is bed-ridden the rest of his life. That's as charitable as I can get. He just gets a bad case of mono for the next several decades.
Ok, I feel better. I now just wish a crippling, decade-long bout of chronic fatigue syndrome on the traitorous, cadaverous Zakaria.
Posted by: Clubber Lang at October 27, 2011 03:15 PM (QcFbt)
Posted by: Waterhouse at October 27, 2011 07:12 PM (1soa9)
Only the 'wrong kind' of children need to die. The ones who don't subscribe to the proper left-wing values.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 27, 2011 03:15 PM (uhAkr)
Posted by: Mobil
Yeah, the SEC doesn't exist. Tens of thousands of pages of laws regarding finance and banking don't exist. Continuous interference with the markets by the Fed doesn't happen...
OR!~ You are a fucking Marxist coward.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 27, 2011 03:16 PM (jczFB)
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at October 27, 2011 07:09 PM (UR5vq)
Have you ever watched a couple of rats' behaviour in a cage compared to a hundred rats in an identical cage?
Posted by: Soona - stocking up on ammo at October 27, 2011 03:17 PM (y0bJs)
Posted by: Mobil at October 27, 2011 07:11 PM (EHEmJ)
We may be stupid, but we have all the guns and ammo. If the collapse is coming, you are in deep shit. Your skills at artfully sculpting the foam on my latté won't help very much when someone with a shotgun tells you to give up your girlfriend or die.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at October 27, 2011 03:18 PM (UYLrj)
Bottom-line issues stall GOP efforts to pull back health law (Washington Times)
“By the time we got to the debt-ceiling debate, you could tell the leadership, the Republican Study Committee, the organizations that pushed the priority agenda through our conference had turned over to the money side of this equation rather than the principled side of Obamacare,” said Rep. Steve King, an Iowa Republican who has sponsored some of the repeal efforts.
Posted by: Y-not at October 27, 2011 03:20 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 27, 2011 03:20 PM (d0Tfm)
Hey waterhose, go fuck yourself, maybe you would eventually see another tax deduction? Never mind, we all know you are old and retired, living on government pension.
Posted by: Mobil at October 27, 2011 03:21 PM (EHEmJ)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative)
Dude...you can has dat skank.
Posted by: hutch1200 at October 27, 2011 03:22 PM (eDgEj)
Where's your courage, raykon? You have a stated policy for economic growth, yet you won't implement it. Why? Are you scared, little raykon?
Rope is cheap, if you can't afford a gun. Do it, poltroon. Do it, or admit defeat.
Posted by: Waterhouse at October 27, 2011 03:24 PM (1soa9)
Posted by: Mobil at October 27, 2011 07:21 PM (EHEmJ)
And we know you are a female impersonator who got a chemical burn on his penis.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 27, 2011 03:24 PM (uhAkr)
Posted by: steevy at October 27, 2011 03:25 PM (fyOgS)
Oooh, fresh troll for dinner, huh? The things I miss when I'm not here...
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 27, 2011 03:25 PM (d0Tfm)
LOL little girl, go cry to your police why don't you.
Posted by: Mobil at October 27, 2011 03:25 PM (EHEmJ)
Instead of spouting off, you could read a bit and learn about how the world actually works, rather than blindly accept the ignorant economic ramblings of a failed 19th century philosopher.
But that won't happen. I have dealt with too many of you ignoramuses to expect any thing other than the blind follower that you are.
One thing -- I always won the fights. Always.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at October 27, 2011 03:26 PM (UYLrj)
Posted by: Soona - stocking up on ammo at October 27, 2011 03:27 PM (y0bJs)
Posted by: Mobil at October 27, 2011 07:01 PM (EHEmJ)
First of all, it's "fewer" as in We need fewer kids. You use fewer for number and less for amount. Less stupidity, fewer assholes.
Secondly, you're a fucking idiot. We need more kids not fewer. Europe is not reproducing at replacement rate and will soon be entirely muslim. Nature abhors a vacuum. The "religious nut right" as you so ineloquently put it is correct. If we had not given up the large family we would not have the immigration problem we have today.
Thirdly, who exactly do you mean? Most catholics are cafeteria style on the subject and evangelicals aren't particularly reproductive.
Posted by: Leonitus at October 27, 2011 03:27 PM (rmDVL)
LOL little girl, go cry to your police why don't you.
Posted by: Mobil at October 27, 2011 07:25 PM (EHEmJ)
*facepalm*
Posted by: Do.I.Make.My.Self.Clear?!!11!! at October 27, 2011 03:27 PM (B0LGd)
Facts try them out.
Since 1970
1. We have less kids as a proportion to our population.
2. We spend more money per student (inflation adjusted).
3. Staff per student has risen by 70%.
4. We aren't performing any better on standardized testing.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at October 27, 2011 03:27 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 27, 2011 03:28 PM (jczFB)
Posted by: Mobil at October 27, 2011 03:28 PM (EHEmJ)
Why are you so hypocritical, raykon? Why won't you begin your policy for prosperity? Are you scared? Are you scared of your policy, little raykon?
Posted by: Waterhouse at October 27, 2011 03:28 PM (1soa9)
You misread what I wrote (no surprise there).
When the police are no longer available to protect you, nothing will save your precious little life. Those who are stronger and tougher will take from you anything they want, including your girlfriend (if you have a real one, not the imaginary one you masturbate to) and your rectum.
I, on the other hand, will be able to protect myself and my family.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at October 27, 2011 03:28 PM (UYLrj)
Posted by: Mobils' boss at October 27, 2011 03:29 PM (eDgEj)
Posted by: steevy at October 27, 2011 03:29 PM (fyOgS)
Posted by: Mr. Wonderful at October 27, 2011 03:29 PM (RnTGG)
C'mon raykon. Show us how much you believe you're correct. Off yourself.
Or get someone to do it for you, if you're so scared.
Posted by: Waterhouse at October 27, 2011 03:29 PM (1soa9)
Posted by: proudonkey
Pot, kettle, etc.
Those still out off some light.
More like Black Hole and Dark Matter.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at October 27, 2011 03:30 PM (0q2P7)
With every post, you prove what a hypocritical little coward you are. Why don't you begin your plan for economic prosperity, raykon? What's so wrong with your plan, that you choose not to implement it?
Posted by: Waterhouse at October 27, 2011 03:31 PM (1soa9)
Posted by: Mobil at October 27, 2011 03:31 PM (EHEmJ)
The trolls have sucked recently. They aren't even crazy...they're just stupid.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at October 27, 2011 03:32 PM (UYLrj)
Did you read about the boy who the Girl Scouts let join?Yeah,the end is nigh.
The Girl Scouts has taken a turn toward full on liberal indoctrination. Michelle Obama is idolized by the organization and they are sure to include fully covered Muslim girls in all of their ad campaigns. The girls no longer try for difficult badges, instead its things like entertainment technology and social butterfly.
Posted by: ParanoidStillAGirlInSeattle at October 27, 2011 03:32 PM (RZ8pf)
Waterhose, weak wet and limp, how old are you? Who is paying your pension, you hypocrite? Military, Police, or Fire pension?
What business is it of yours how anyone invests their own money? You do know what the word "investment" really means, don't you? Here's a hint, it's not what your precious Obama calls it.
Or maybe I should ask, can you count?
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 27, 2011 03:32 PM (d0Tfm)
Why are you talking about drugs, instead of implementing your plan for economic prosperity via 12-gauge slug to your brain? Why, raykon? Are you afraid it won't work? C'mon, have faith in your plan.
Posted by: Waterhouse at October 27, 2011 03:33 PM (1soa9)
Posted by: dagny at October 27, 2011 03:33 PM (rmDVL)
Posted by: Mobil at October 27, 2011 07:31 PM (EHEmJ)
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This is why you need to keep proudonkey around even if you fight over who took the last Snackwell.
You need to let the pressure off the noose faster so you don't suffer (more) brain damage.
Posted by: David Carradine at October 27, 2011 03:34 PM (B0LGd)
Baaa haaa ahaaaaa.....
Posted by: Mobil at October 27, 2011 03:34 PM (EHEmJ)
Posted by: Waterhouse at October 27, 2011 03:34 PM (1soa9)
Posted by: dagny at October 27, 2011 03:35 PM (rmDVL)
Supreme Ayatollah with Cheese
Oh shit! That has to be like the post of the day, I totally spewed! (I'm not talking about DNA)
Posted by: Max Power at October 27, 2011 03:35 PM (q177U)
See, this doesn't make any sense. Most people around here are willing to entertain the notion of decreasing funding for the war on drugs, and are certainly willing to consider streamlining the military and cutting the admittedly large amount of waste. But...we would like it done rationally.
If you want to improve your trolling you are going to have to think a bit before you post. Spewing profanity and ad hominem remarks will only get you the same in return, and we don't mind doing it.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at October 27, 2011 03:35 PM (UYLrj)
Posted by: steevy at October 27, 2011 03:36 PM (fyOgS)
Posted by: Mobil at October 27, 2011 03:36 PM (EHEmJ)
Did you read about the boy who the Girl Scouts let join?Yeah,the end is nigh.
The Girl Scouts has taken a turn toward full on liberal indoctrination. Michelle Obama is idolized by the organization and they are sure to include fully covered Muslim girls in all of their ad campaigns. The girls no longer try for difficult badges, instead its things like entertainment technology and social butterfly.
Posted by: ParanoidStillAGirlInSeattle at October 27, 2011 07:32 PM (RZ8pf===
Really? They folded on that pretty quickly. Yesterday, the news was reporting they said no to that mentally ill child.
Posted by: David Carradine at October 27, 2011 03:36 PM (B0LGd)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at October 27, 2011 03:37 PM (UYLrj)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 27, 2011 03:38 PM (d0Tfm)
Posted by: Do.I.Make.My.Self.Clear?!!11!! at October 27, 2011 03:38 PM (B0LGd)
Posted by: steevy at October 27, 2011 03:39 PM (fyOgS)
Yeah, I'm done too. It's so fucking stupid it doesn't even realize when you're using its own tactics against it.
Posted by: Waterhouse at October 27, 2011 03:39 PM (1soa9)
Since when can you talk rationally to Jesus believers? Especially idiot God believers that love war and hate the poor?
Posted by: Mobil at October 27, 2011 03:39 PM (EHEmJ)
Posted by: CoolCzech at October 27, 2011 03:40 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: steevy at October 27, 2011 03:41 PM (fyOgS)
Posted by: CoolCzech at October 27, 2011 03:41 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: nickless at October 27, 2011 03:42 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Mobil at October 27, 2011 07:36 PM (EHEmJ)
Two items of advice for you, troll:
1) Don't diss old people.
2) Don't make the mistake of walking into my sight picture.
Posted by: Soona - stocking up on ammo at October 27, 2011 03:42 PM (y0bJs)
Posted by: Mobil at October 27, 2011 03:42 PM (EHEmJ)
Based on the evidence, I highly doubt raykon has the brainpower to master a tricycle, let alone a car.
Posted by: Waterhouse at October 27, 2011 03:43 PM (1soa9)
Last time we ignored a petty tyrant he ended up killing 70 million people.
and the war on drugs.
The instant I no longer have to pay for anyone else's food, clothing, shelter, and medical care, you and your'n can ingest, smoke, snort, and shoot yourself up with whatever you want. I will not care and will step over your emaciated, maggot infested, overdosed corpse in the street while using your demise as an example to my kids as to what happens when you are terminally stupid.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at October 27, 2011 03:43 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Mobil at October 27, 2011 07:39 PM (EHEmJ)
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Probably does but it is the OSW'ers and their ilk that hate the poor. They're cutting off spaghetti bolognese for all the saintly NYC hobos and excons.
Posted by: Do.I.Make.My.Self.Clear?!!11!! at October 27, 2011 03:43 PM (B0LGd)
Posted by: steevy at October 27, 2011 03:44 PM (fyOgS)
Posted by: Mobil at October 27, 2011 07:43 PM (EHEmJ)
Daddy issues?
Posted by: nickless at October 27, 2011 03:46 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Mobil at October 27, 2011 07:42 PM (EHEmJ)
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Read that out loud to yourselves as Borris from Rocky & Bullwinkle and try not to laugh.
Posted by: Do.I.Make.My.Self.Clear?!!11!! at October 27, 2011 03:46 PM (B0LGd)
"Within the context of Iranian politics, Ahmadinejad is the pragmatist."
holy return-of-the-Madi Batman!
that's some serious crazy right there...
Posted by: shoey at October 27, 2011 03:46 PM (m6OUa)
When I no longer have to pay for idiots health care, that think they know best and don't buy medical insurance or car insurance, then ignoramus fascists regpugs have wised up.
Posted by: Mobil at October 27, 2011 03:46 PM (EHEmJ)
Posted by: dagny at October 27, 2011 03:47 PM (rmDVL)
Posted by: al-Cicero, Tea Party Jihadist at October 27, 2011 03:47 PM (QKKT0)
Posted by: steevy at October 27, 2011 03:48 PM (fyOgS)
Posted by: Do.I.Make.My.Self.Clear?!!11!! at October 27, 2011 03:48 PM (B0LGd)
Posted by: Mobil at October 27, 2011 07:42 PM (EHEmJ)
It was a waste of money to have the military protect you. But see, since we pay taxes and you don't, we get to make that decision.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 27, 2011 03:48 PM (uhAkr)
Posted by: dagny at October 27, 2011 07:47 PM (rmDVL)
Hey come on. He's not one of ours.
Posted by: The American Congress of Atheists at October 27, 2011 03:49 PM (QKKT0)
Posted by: Mobil at October 27, 2011 03:49 PM (EHEmJ)
OK, I'm with everyone else, this troll just isn't worth my time.
I've had more fun with a dead frog.
It is time to drink!
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 27, 2011 03:49 PM (d0Tfm)
The United Nations is celebrating a planet with seven billion people. But some projections now warn that the global population may actually start shrinking.
Posted by: Kratos
When animal populations get too numerous, nature steps in. With us it's war, plague & famine.
Like Soona, I sense we are on the cusp of some vast thing.
OTOH, having lost my mate ( Yes, the details are at my screen-name's link ) I really don't care No Mo... bring it on.
And BTW? Ditch the new damn-fool troll.
Posted by: backhoe, Hobbit tea-roar-ist of Doom at October 27, 2011 03:50 PM (QROim)
1. You pay for anyone's health care?
2. Republicans buy insurance and have jobs, what are you talking about?
3. You don't want to pay for haftin to uproar's insurance? Is that what you mean?
4. Put down the pipe if you're going to post.
Posted by: dagny at October 27, 2011 03:50 PM (rmDVL)
Posted by: steevy at October 27, 2011 03:50 PM (fyOgS)
Posted by: KG at October 27, 2011 03:51 PM (LD21B)
FIFY
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at October 27, 2011 03:51 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Mobil at October 27, 2011 07:01 PM (EHEmJ)
Survival of the fittest, Bub!
Posted by: Grey Fox at October 27, 2011 03:51 PM (MSCON)
Is Ace an Atheist who votes for leaders that believe in Gods?
Posted by: Mobil at October 27, 2011 03:53 PM (EHEmJ)
Posted by: steevy at October 27, 2011 03:53 PM (fyOgS)
No, all those released American political prisoners will find the gentle souls like mobil and, er...
help them.
Posted by: al-Cicero, Tea Party Jihadist at October 27, 2011 03:53 PM (QKKT0)
Posted by: Mobils' boss at October 27, 2011 03:53 PM (eDgEj)
Posted by: Mobils' boss at October 27, 2011 07:53 PM (eDgEj)
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Gloryholes have drive-thru's now?
Posted by: Do.I.Make.My.Self.Clear?!!11!! at October 27, 2011 03:55 PM (B0LGd)
The elastic in your plastic underpants is too tight.
Posted by: Not Drinking Nearly Enough at October 27, 2011 03:55 PM (HtUdo)
Is Ace an Atheist who votes for leaders that believe in Gods?
Posted by: Mobil at October 27, 2011 07:53 PM (EHEmJ)
Well, historically speaking, the ones that don't believe in gods tend to be bad for the health of their populations.
Posted by: nickless at October 27, 2011 03:55 PM (MMC8r)
I wonder when the water gets shut off, and the food runs out, will they be killed by those around them for whatever food is in their moms house, or will they make it out before the freeloaders turned freekillers reach their home.
If they make it out, how far will they go before they die?
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at October 27, 2011 03:56 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: nickless at October 27, 2011 03:56 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: dagny at October 27, 2011 07:47 PM (rmDVL)
Couldn't have said it better myself.
Posted by: Soona - stocking up on ammo at October 27, 2011 03:56 PM (y0bJs)
Fluffies, its 37 degrees and raining.
No snow in Boston, but it's a crappy night to try to sleep on a sidewalk. The professional homeless will get the heating vents first.
Posted by: fluffy at October 27, 2011 03:56 PM (3SvjA)
Gloryholes have drive-thru's now?
Posted by: Do.I.Make.My.Self.Clear?!!11!!
He dives out the window, into your lap. $3 a pop. And he gets to regurgitate the spooge here.
Posted by: Mobils' boss at October 27, 2011 03:57 PM (eDgEj)
I wonder when the water gets shut off, and the food runs out, will they be killed by those around them for whatever food is in their moms house, or will they make it out before the freeloaders turned freekillers reach their home.
Nah, he and DMXroid will be there, organizing the anarchy in their post-apocalyptic libertarian utopia.
Posted by: nickless at October 27, 2011 03:58 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at October 27, 2011 03:58 PM (UYLrj)
Mom will protect me. She weighs like 400 pounds. I could get lost in there when we have sex.
Posted by: Mobil at October 27, 2011 03:59 PM (QKKT0)
Posted by: Tami-Cardinals! at October 27, 2011 03:59 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: hutch1200 at October 27, 2011 03:59 PM (eDgEj)
Posted by: steevy at October 27, 2011 07:53 PM (fyOgS)
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If any doubts that they haven't, the fact that people like Fareed Zakaria are allowed to advise the man is (ostensibly) the POTUS and spew his bile on a national news network should erase said doubt readily.
Posted by: Do.I.Make.My.Self.Clear?!!11!! at October 27, 2011 03:59 PM (B0LGd)
Posted by: steevy at October 27, 2011 04:00 PM (fyOgS)
Posted by: dagny at October 27, 2011 07:47 PM (rmDVL)
Eh, I wouldn't bash Ace for it. It's the real zealous, born-again evangelical atheists that hang their insecure feelings of intellectual superiority on their rabid non-belief that are the real Satan's Cockholsters.
Posted by: nickless at October 27, 2011 04:01 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Mobil the Unimpressive with Expressive Wrists at October 27, 2011 04:01 PM (4q5tP)
Posted by: steevy at October 27, 2011 04:02 PM (fyOgS)
That stuff is a fortune! I'm talking about buying a case.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at October 27, 2011 04:02 PM (UYLrj)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative)
I load my Stoeger 2000 semi w/extended tube, (poor mans Barretta) w/a phosphorus round, #7. the all the other 5 are #4. 00's are on the stock shell holder.
Posted by: hutch1200 at October 27, 2011 04:02 PM (eDgEj)
00 if you have a 3.5" receiver.
Otherwise I would go 0
Alternate with slugs in the magazine.
Make sure the shot comes out as #1 the slug as #2
If you are worried about wall penetration (Hitting innocents) go single 0 all the way.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at October 27, 2011 04:03 PM (0q2P7)
O/T: HA reports that Donald Trump thinks #OWS is kind of cool.
Another reason that I'm glad that his decision to not run for prez was made.
Posted by: Soona - stocking up on ammo at October 27, 2011 04:03 PM (y0bJs)
Posted by: Mobil at October 27, 2011 04:03 PM (EHEmJ)
weaselzippers Weasel Zippers
Breaking: Oakland Mayor Allows Occupiers To Re-Take City...
http://tinyurl.com/3htojcn
Posted by: Tami-Cardinals! at October 27, 2011 04:03 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: steevy at October 27, 2011 04:03 PM (fyOgS)
Posted by: steevy at October 27, 2011 08:00 PM (fyOgS)
I find quarters to be particularly effective
Posted by: Alice at October 27, 2011 04:04 PM (4q5tP)
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What I and the rest of the class were told by the cop I took my CCW class from back in the mid90's was that if you have to shoot someone in self-defense, make sure you shoot to kill. He explained that a dead person wasn't going to keep you in civil and criminal court the rest of your life.
Not that he would admit to saying so if you took said advice.
That being said, I am not sure it would make any difference to a grand jury if you redecorated your house with a home invaders innards using one grade of buckshot or another.
Posted by: Do.I.Make.My.Self.Clear?!!11!! at October 27, 2011 04:05 PM (B0LGd)
Posted by: steevy at October 27, 2011 04:05 PM (fyOgS)
First load should be small buck or bird shot.
After your second shot, switch to slugs so you can get at / to the runners.
Posted by: garrett at October 27, 2011 04:05 PM (S2GGZ)
Clowns.
Gay clowns like John Wayne Gacy.
And Carrot Top.
Posted by: nickless at October 27, 2011 04:05 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Rex Harrison's Hat at October 27, 2011 04:06 PM (j4z6y)
Posted by: steevy at October 27, 2011 08:03 PM (fyOgS)
That is what I thought, too.
Posted by: Grey Fox at October 27, 2011 04:06 PM (MSCON)
Posted by: steevy at October 27, 2011 04:07 PM (fyOgS)
And...the purchase will be an excuse to retire my old Remington 1100 and buy something shorter with an extended tube.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at October 27, 2011 04:07 PM (UYLrj)
Well, if by "city", they mean a few now-particularly-smelly square feet of downtown.
Posted by: Waterhouse at October 27, 2011 04:08 PM (1soa9)
First load should be small buck or bird shot-Garrett
Many LEO's I ride w/tell me the same thing FWIW.
Posted by: hutch1200 at October 27, 2011 04:08 PM (eDgEj)
I don't think that's a UTI, you're gonna need a spinal fluid examination to check for neurosyphilis.
Posted by: Not Drinking Nearly Enough at October 27, 2011 04:08 PM (HtUdo)
I'm sure Golgafrinchem will help with that. They had some success in this area.
Posted by: Berserker at October 27, 2011 04:08 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: Mobil at October 27, 2011 08:03 PM (EHEmJ)
The sky falling on our heads.
Posted by: Grey Fox at October 27, 2011 04:08 PM (MSCON)
Posted by: steevy at October 27, 2011 08:03 PM (fyOgS)
Yes. That counterbalances the torture that is his movie review fetish.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at October 27, 2011 04:08 PM (UYLrj)
That after the collapse of civilization claims your sorry corpse in cannibalistic Creutzfeldt-Jakob spreading glee, that I won't be able to get my malt house working in time and I might run out of beer.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at October 27, 2011 04:09 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Mobil at October 27, 2011 04:09 PM (EHEmJ)
Posted by: FlaviusJulius at October 27, 2011 04:09 PM (ieDPL)
CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative
Check out the Stoeger 2000. I retired my sweet trap gun 11-87 for it. I'm a cheap bastard like that. It does require at least 250 rounds to be broken in properly.
Posted by: hutch1200 at October 27, 2011 04:10 PM (eDgEj)
Posted by: Do.I.Make.My.Self.Clear?!!11!! at October 27, 2011 04:10 PM (B0LGd)
'Cause Liberace's in heaven, and I'm afraid we'll show up in the same outfit.
Posted by: nickless at October 27, 2011 04:10 PM (MMC8r)
US population (including Americans). Really really edgy right now. Not good.
Posted by: Soona - stocking up on ammo at October 27, 2011 04:11 PM (y0bJs)
We all die, and arent you going to heaven anyway, so you should look forward to it? Only saying.
Posted by: Mobil at October 27, 2011 04:11 PM (EHEmJ)
Posted by: hutch1200 at October 27, 2011 08:10 PM (eDgEj)
The Horror!
And I have a line on a range that is close enough that I can actually shoot every week or two!
I live in NJ, so that is a very big deal.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at October 27, 2011 04:12 PM (UYLrj)
Posted by: Mobil at October 27, 2011 08:08 PM (EHEmJ)
I am not particularly afraid of dying. I just want to make sure that when I go it is either peacfully while surrounded by my great-grandchildren or atop a mountain of enemy corpses, fighting to the bitter end.
Posted by: Grey Fox at October 27, 2011 04:12 PM (MSCON)
Posted by: FlaviusJulius at October 27, 2011 04:12 PM (ieDPL)
In a few arguments with some libs, they actually admitted that diplomacy is their objective... not a tool to reach an objective. No shit. I cannot wrap my brain around that, but whatever. Their brains aren't fully formed or something. They think as long as 'we' are talking or engaged in diplomacy, thats all that matters. They don't think it has to come to an end. Just never ending talking. I guess as long as 'we' are in never ending talks with 'them', and it never devolves into war in their lifetimes, then thats all that matters. Very selfish if i'm understanding them.
Clear thinking people all know that diplomacy is a tool, not an objective. Not some libs. The crazy thing is, some of these libs are in positions of power today... smart power.. hehe. I'm willing to bet that Neville Chamberlain was one of these morons as well.. but hey, what do I know
Posted by: Governor Moon Beaner at October 27, 2011 04:13 PM (bcmD0)
The story about your father being a prostitute is compelling, but off topic.
Posted by: Not Drinking Nearly Enough at October 27, 2011 04:13 PM (HtUdo)
One thing with Zakahootchie, he did the narration for the HBO special on the Mumbai attacks, and as I recall he seemed to play it fairly straight, which surprised me. But during the ending monologue, it sure looked like he was heartbroken that he couldn't blame the attacks on anyone other than the Islamic barbarians who carried them out.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 27, 2011 04:13 PM (G+B5p)
Posted by: SurferDoc at October 27, 2011 04:14 PM (STdkO)
Oh after reality comes and wipes out your type, I just want to know what the Earth is going to be like without idiots like you . Call it curiosity.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at October 27, 2011 04:15 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: FlaviusJulius at October 27, 2011 04:16 PM (ieDPL)
huh? Are you stupider than I already think?
Posted by: Mobil at October 27, 2011 04:16 PM (EHEmJ)
Posted by: Academy of AoSHQ Posts at October 27, 2011 04:16 PM (j4z6y)
Hey! My wife's stuck in traffic so we are recording the game.
Shhh.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at October 27, 2011 04:16 PM (UYLrj)
Come now, be reasonable. Nobody can think stupider than you!
Posted by: Waterhouse at October 27, 2011 04:17 PM (1soa9)
Posted by: FlaviusJulius at October 27, 2011 04:17 PM (ieDPL)
Posted by: Mobil at October 27, 2011 04:18 PM (EHEmJ)
Posted by: Mobil at October 27, 2011 08:16 PM (EHEmJ)
Awkward. Rewrite.
Posted by: Mobile's long-suffering teacher at October 27, 2011 04:18 PM (MSCON)
Hmm, the word paradise comes to mind.
Posted by: Berserker at October 27, 2011 04:18 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: Jimbo at October 27, 2011 04:19 PM (O3R/2)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at October 27, 2011 04:20 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Mobil at October 27, 2011 08:18 PM (EHEmJ)
Survey says.....
...you, scooter.
Posted by: Richard Dawson at October 27, 2011 04:20 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: steevy at October 27, 2011 04:21 PM (fyOgS)
We all die, and arent you going to heaven anyway, so you should look forward to it? Only saying.
I am looking forward to this:
When we've been here ten thousand years
Bright shining as the sun.
We've no less days to sing God's praise
Than when we've first begun.
You, on the other hand, have [ ] to look forward to. Nothingness. Oblivion. Silent Void.
Only saying.
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 27, 2011 04:23 PM (4q5tP)
Posted by: FlaviusJulius at October 27, 2011 04:23 PM (ieDPL)
Posted by: Mobil at October 27, 2011 08:16 PM (EHEmJ)
Awkward. Rewrite."
Fuck off, the best writers invent new idioms.
Posted by: Mobil at October 27, 2011 04:23 PM (EHEmJ)
Posted by: FlaviusJulius at October 27, 2011 04:23 PM (ieDPL)
Posted by: steevy at October 27, 2011 04:25 PM (fyOgS)
Heh, surrounded by the hoard, pleas for divine intervention. I think Ace has better things to do at this hour other than defend you and argue with us, that Val-U-Rite is not going to drink itself you know.
So do you honestly believe that his little puny piece of observable existence is all that exists period? Scientists don't believe that. You aren't anti science and anti religion are you?
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at October 27, 2011 04:25 PM (0q2P7)
I found some videos of a two man punt gun.
VIDS PLZ!
Posted by: hutch1200 at October 27, 2011 04:25 PM (eDgEj)
Fuck off, colloqialism the best writers invent new idioms. That wasn't a new idiom, that was poor grammar. You must learn the difference before you can be a great writer.
Posted by: Mobil at October 27, 2011 08:23 PM (EHEmJ)
Posted by: Mobil's long-suffering teacher at October 27, 2011 04:26 PM (MSCON)
Fuck off, the best writers invent new idioms.
Posted by: Mobil at October 27, 2011 08:23 PM (EHEmJ)
So do the shittiest ones. Of course, they don't mean to.
Posted by: nickless at October 27, 2011 04:27 PM (MMC8r)
Trust me you are in no danger of being in that category. If you could just stick to English your writing would improve by leaps and bounds.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at October 27, 2011 04:27 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: hutch1200 at October 27, 2011 04:28 PM (eDgEj)
God created the universe, then walked off, so who cares? So why not STFU :-)
Posted by: Mobil at October 27, 2011 04:28 PM (EHEmJ)
Fuck off, the best writers invent new idioms.
Resist we much!
Guam will tip over!
Will the Mars rover be able to see the flag left by the astronauts?
Down twinkles!
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 27, 2011 04:29 PM (4q5tP)
No the worst writers incoherently spill letters onto a page that sometimes form words but under no circumstances can be mistaken for thought. And if you work real hard you might get your writing out of that category.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at October 27, 2011 04:29 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: hutch1200 at October 27, 2011 04:29 PM (eDgEj)
Posted by: Mobil at October 27, 2011 08:28 PM (EHEmJ)
Ah, we have had this conversation before. I note that one cannot be both an atheist and a deist as the same time, so please pick a side and stick to it. Also, you never answered my question about why you think that reason is anything more than a delusion if our brains are a collection of random matter whose sole distinction is that it has survived so far.
Posted by: Grey Fox at October 27, 2011 04:31 PM (MSCON)
Posted by: Edward Bulwer-Lytton at October 27, 2011 04:32 PM (MMC8r)
Just when you imagine he can't think stupider ...
Posted by: Waterhouse at October 27, 2011 04:33 PM (1soa9)
So you aren't atheist your a deist. Not an atheist. Interesting does your belief include an omniscient omnipotent god, or one that is limited? If this god is limited, are their greater gods above him? If their are greater gods are they limited?
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at October 27, 2011 04:34 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at October 27, 2011 04:35 PM (0q2P7)
Huh? If God created the universe, then walked off and does not need worship, then who cares if he did the deed? What difference does it make?
Posted by: Mobil at October 27, 2011 04:37 PM (EHEmJ)
No.
Please read "The Road"
Posted by: Mobil at October 27, 2011 04:39 PM (EHEmJ)
I did not look up the history, but I'll take a stab at this one. Islam was and is the religion of conquest, and so probably the warriors of the desert, having better horses, readily conquered the Persians, when propagating their "faith," the Persians being maybe equal in fighting skills, but with lesser mounts.
Posted by: I'm in a New York state of mind at October 27, 2011 04:40 PM (4sQwu)
Posted by: FlaviusJulius at October 27, 2011 04:40 PM (ieDPL)
Posted by: steevy at October 27, 2011 04:41 PM (fyOgS)
Posted by: City of Whispers ePub at October 27, 2011 04:42 PM (YuhQR)
Posted by: Mobil at October 27, 2011 08:37 PM (EHEmJ)
For one thing, the answer might indicate whether reason is more than a collective delusion (the atheist position, properly considered) or something that we can trust (the ID position). If one takes the position it is something we can trust, one must then explain why, which presumes a basic knowledge of the creator and why he/she/it/they created.
It question also has implications for things like ethics, anthropology (the in the philosophical and religious sense), etc., but I am focusing on epistomology for now.
Posted by: Grey Fox at October 27, 2011 04:42 PM (MSCON)
Huh? If God created the universe, then walked off and does not need worship, then who cares if he did the deed? What difference does it make?
You win. It turns out that I am not so powerful as to be able to create a rock so big and heavy that I can't lift it. Who knew?
Posted by: God (aka I Am, aka Jehova, aka Elohim, aka Yeshua, aka Lord) at October 27, 2011 04:43 PM (4q5tP)
Posted by: Zero Day epub at October 27, 2011 04:50 PM (LLd5x)
Zakaria is a fifth-columnist douchebag.
Barack Obama is still a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure.
Carry on...
Posted by: Miller at October 27, 2011 04:56 PM (G0D/C)
Why do all of you F* trolls think you've got profound reading for me? Let me save you the effort, if you got something out of it it is too juvenile to be interesting to me.
I have another question; As a matter of metaphysics, is their any sort of absolute moral standard?"
No.
Good then according to you there is no moral ascendancy to any form of egalitarianism nor utilitarianism; I am free to pursue selfish ends without conscience or divine consequence. Supporting any of your ideas is clearly outside of my self interest, so according to you the most logical thing I should do is ignore you. So go crawl back under a rock, you beat yourself in an argument again.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at October 27, 2011 05:02 PM (0q2P7)
Let wall street police itself. Stupid rebpugs.
Posted by: Mobil at October 27, 2011 05:14 PM (EHEmJ)
Posted by: sexypig at October 27, 2011 05:17 PM (K9bOa)
According to your beliefs I shouldn't be trying to beat them, I should be trying to join them.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at October 27, 2011 05:18 PM (0q2P7)
Is God going to smite you?
Posted by: Mobil at October 27, 2011 05:19 PM (EHEmJ)
Posted by: Great Expectations AudioBook at October 27, 2011 05:21 PM (PSIAV)
Mutt, give it a whack, but I suggest you are late to the game.
Posted by: Mobil at October 27, 2011 05:21 PM (EHEmJ)
Oh great, another athiest vs believer fight. I guess we will get it figured out this time huh folks. It seems only trolls like to kick up this shit. Guess what f==kwad, we have athiests who post here on a regular basis and we get along fine. They are willing to let the rest of the world try to figure things out on their own as opposed to athiest evangelizing prick trolls like yourself. Bend over hard and polish your own knob, wanker.
I just figured out drinking bourbon seems to reduce my capacity to put up with stupid shit.
Posted by: Ohio Dan at October 27, 2011 05:30 PM (JKNDp)
This web site is my breathing in, really fantastic pattern and perfect subject matter.
Posted by: The Viper ePub at October 27, 2011 05:33 PM (8Nxa3)
Nice
Do you read at all?
White Noise
Posted by: Mobil at October 27, 2011 05:37 PM (EHEmJ)
Posted by: Ohio Dan at October 27, 2011 05:50 PM (JKNDp)
Do you read at all?
White Noise
Posted by: Mobil at October 27, 2011 09:37 PM (EHEmJ)
It is a spambot, Bub. So, no, it is pretty much illiterate.
Posted by: Grey Fox at October 27, 2011 05:51 PM (MSCON)
Posted by: Ohio Dan at October 27, 2011 05:53 PM (JKNDp)
So your here raytard!
Look, these people didn't take your scoamf buttplug so quit being such a twat.
Posted by: Raytard's Boss at October 27, 2011 06:13 PM (70TBD)
Missing from the piece (aside from any sense of reality)? Any mention of Iran's role in supplying weapons used to kill Americans in both Iraq and Afghanistan. Also left out is Iran's long standing commitment to terrorism including the recent plot to kill .
Oh my god, they got him! He died before he could write the last word!
Posted by: Entropy at October 27, 2011 06:16 PM (MGZjj)
Posted by: Molto Batali ePub at October 27, 2011 07:29 PM (iTID2)
Posted by: Adjoran at October 27, 2011 07:54 PM (HJBJB)
In a year you will be nothing but dust!
Now come let out Lady of Justice possess you!
In her breathtaking hair raising bed!
She will tingle your spine
As she captures your heart and your head!
Posted by: Percy Blakeney at October 27, 2011 09:24 PM (cY9nU)
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