May 02, 2011
— DrewM I was pretty bi-partisan last night and I stand by it. I would have never thought in a million years President Obama would have the brass balls to send a team of Navy SEALs deep into Pakistan to get bin Laden in such an up close and personal way. But in the cool afterglow of bin Laden's death, I'd like to remind folks that not everyone was always so excited about killing America's enemies
Behold a breathless Keith Olbermann in March of 2009 pimping the rantings of admitted liar Sy Hersh.
Our fifth story on the Countdown tonight: As we reported on this newshour last night, investigative reporter Seymour Hersh, claiming to have uncovered a covert executive assassination ring that reported directly to Vice President Dick Cheney’s office. A reminder -- if one is needed – that in 1976, Mr. Cheney was the chief of staff to President Ford. Meaning, by the time Cheney was back in the West Wing, it appears he had either forgotten about his own boss’ executive order or worse, he had decided to ignore it.Mr. Hersh is making the revelations at a forum in Minnesota two nights ago. The topic: America’s constitutional crisis. Hersh saying of Mr. Cheney and his inner circle, quote, "They ran a government within the government." Adding, "Eight or nine neoconservatives took over our country."
HershÂ’s bombshell allegations about the assassination ring, the result of reporting for a book he says might be still a year or two away from being published. Hersh is telling MinnPost.com in an email after the event, that the disclosures are, quote, "not something he wanted to dwell about in public."
The toothpaste, however, is already out of the proverbial tube here. When the discussion touched upon the abuses of executive power, Mr. Hersh asked how these things tend to happen and whether they continue to happen to this day. In his reply, the reporter describing a secret commando unit officially called the "Joint Special Operations Command."
HERSH (audio clip): "ItÂ’s a special wing of our special operations community that is set up independently. They do not report to anybody except in the Clinton, I mean, in the Bush/Cheney days, they reported directly to the Cheney office. They do not report to the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff or to Mr. Gates, the secretary of defense. They report directly to him.
They are not -- they have absolutely no -- Congress has no oversight of it. ItÂ’s an executive assassination wing essentially, and itÂ’s been going on and on and on.
And just today in The Times, there was a story saying that its leader, a three-star admiral named McRaven ordered a stop to certain activities because there were so many collateral deaths. ItÂ’s been going into, in -- under President BushÂ’s authority. TheyÂ’ve been going into countries, not talking to the ambassador or the CIA station chief, and finding people on a list and executing them and leaving. ThatÂ’s been going on, well, in the name of all of us."
The Joint Special Operations Command...Hersh and Olbermann's band of rogue assassins was the lead command in the death of bin Laden.
Were it not for this high-value target, it might have been a routine mission for the specially trained and highly mythologized SEAL Team Six, officially called the Naval Special Warfare Development Group, but known even to the locals at their home base Dam Neck in Virginia as just DevGru.This HVT was special, and the raids required practice, so they replicated the one-acre compound. Trial runs were held in early April.
DevGru belongs to the Joint Special Operations Command, an extraordinary and unusual collection of classified standing task forces and special-missions units. They report to the president and operate worldwide based on the legal (or extra-legal) premises of classified presidential directives. Though the general public knows about the special SEALs and their brothers in Delta Force, most JSOC missions never leak. We only hear about JSOC when something goes bad (a British aid worker is accidentally killed) or when something really big happens (a merchant marine captain is rescued at sea), and even then, the military remains especially sensitive about their existence. Several dozen JSOC operatives have died in Pakistan over the past several years. Their names are released by the Defense Department in the usual manner, but with a cover story -- generally, they were killed in training accidents in eastern Afghanistan. ThatÂ’s the code.
Olbermann (link to his site) is over the moon excited about Obama getting bin Laden. I guess he was against JSOC killing terrorists before he was for it.
Michelle Malkin has more on the left's hypocrisy on "secret prisons".
Almost all Americans are rightfully excited about bin Laden's death but let's not pretend all of us were always in favor of it. Hacks like Olbermann only celebrate American victories when it fits his political narrative., It's disgusting and it shouldn't be ignored.
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Posted by: YRM at May 02, 2011 07:49 AM (KaxDD)
Posted by: code pinkers at May 02, 2011 07:50 AM (IXLvN)
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Posted by: YRM at May 02, 2011 11:49 AM (KaxDD)
The people pushing this are the biggest Obama fans already. I don't know if this will change anyone's mind in a voting booth come November 2012. After we're done celebrating OBL's death, we have to get back to bigger issues like deficits, debt, inflation, energy, unemployment, etc., that are much more important to this country long term.
Posted by: robviously at May 02, 2011 07:52 AM (Xq2WY)
Drew-- i love u guys but can't u give it a rest for just ONE day?-- today there are no political parties-- just for today, we're just all Americans-- the war against the lefties is back on in full tomorrow-- just not today, ok?
Posted by: tomc at May 02, 2011 07:52 AM (7Herw)
I'm just enjoying the moment. The fight will still be there when I get back.
Posted by: Book of Badassery 5:1-2 at May 02, 2011 07:52 AM (GBXon)
Posted by: Tami at May 02, 2011 07:53 AM (VuLos)
Posted by: Poland at May 02, 2011 07:53 AM (qDPnZ)
Honestly, since he probably gets so little traffic (his OBL thread got 600 comments, we got well over 1,000 on 3 separate ones), I'm hoping he'll look to see who linked him. He's vein enough to do it. I'm trying to taunt him.
Posted by: DrewM. at May 02, 2011 07:54 AM (dXPup)
Posted by: polynikes at May 02, 2011 07:54 AM (UzliN)
Drew - the problem in my mind on the is issue is the left vs. right mentality, that being that the left just think things should just magically happen nice and clean while the right knows that in order to get things done you have to slap some faces and dunk some heads etc...
It's like that in every aspect of their thinking be it the economy, social issues and on and on it goes.
I have always maintained that liberals could not exist without us while we would actually flourish without them.
Just a bunch of kids really.
Posted by: Roadking at May 02, 2011 07:54 AM (quUhk)
Wonder if Olberdouche has enough honesty to modify his fanciful narrative of last night, when he falsely claimed this was all due to the return to "within-the-law" intelligence procedures instituted by his glorious Messiah, when it turns out this was a victory 10 years in the making, including info gleaned from sources held in Gitmo.
Not likely.
Posted by: Waterhouse at May 02, 2011 07:54 AM (Hiaja)
All of this will be forgotten, in the same way the treachery of the left has been forgotten when teaching the cold war history.
The way the history of the cold war is taught now, is that everyone wanted the Soviet Union to collapse. Which, as we all know, is complete BS.
This too will be conveniently forgotten by the media and most historians.
Posted by: Ben at May 02, 2011 07:55 AM (wuv1c)
Posted by: tsj017 at May 02, 2011 07:55 AM (4YUWF)
Posted by: tomc at May 02, 2011 11:52 AM (7Herw)
are you serious? you didn't learn from the Gabby Giffords shooting did you? the Paul Wellstone funeral? Katrina? Dems use tragedies to help their politics, we always need to have our guard up
Posted by: YRM at May 02, 2011 07:55 AM (KaxDD)
No again,
I'm happy because the policies started by President George W. Bush finally reached fruition, despite President Obama, and resulted in the death of Osama.
Posted by: Canadian Infidel at May 02, 2011 07:55 AM (GKQDR)
Posted by: Ken Royall at May 02, 2011 07:55 AM (9zzk+)
Posted by: MWR at May 02, 2011 07:55 AM (4df7R)
Let's not make assumptions. It may not be situational patriotism. It's entirely possible some of them have figured out it's not worth cheering for bin Laden anymore. Weak horse and all.
Posted by: Methos at May 02, 2011 07:56 AM (uqJo6)
Posted by: andycanuck at May 02, 2011 07:56 AM (Y1DZt)
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at May 02, 2011 11:54 AM (OWjjx)
63? i'd say over/under is at 55 and i'm going under at about 53 at best the way it was after the Gabby Giffords shooting
Posted by: YRM at May 02, 2011 07:57 AM (KaxDD)
Posted by: Y-not hopes God blesses Seal Team Six at May 02, 2011 07:57 AM (pW2o8)
Fuck the Left. They're not my countrymen.
Posted by: logprof at May 02, 2011 07:59 AM (a2hxi)
Drew-- i love u guys but can't u give it a rest for just ONE day?-- today there are no political parties-- just for today, we're just all Americans-- the war against the lefties is back on in full tomorrow-- just not today, ok?
Posted by: tomc at May 02, 2011 11:52 AM (7Herw)
I'm with you in the sentiment. I'm avoiding all news channels aside from here. Today, just let me be happy and proud to be an American.
I've deleted about 6 comments of mine so far that violated this rule.
Again, like every morning in my prayers, God continue to bless the American military, their families and everyone they love.
Posted by: Canadian Infidel at May 02, 2011 07:59 AM (GKQDR)
Hypocritical pieces of shit...every last one of them.
YAY USA and Guantanamo Bay!!!!
Posted by: © Sponge at May 02, 2011 08:00 AM (UK9cE)
Posted by: Dick Cheney, after hearing the news at May 02, 2011 08:00 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: logprof at May 02, 2011 11:59 AM (a2hxi)
yep, same types who were condemning Bush for going after the bad guys and suddenly it's ok cause Obama has a (D) next to his name. same w/ the deficits and spending issue there.
the left is all about hypocrisy.
Posted by: YRM at May 02, 2011 08:01 AM (KaxDD)
Posted by: logprof at May 02, 2011 08:01 AM (a2hxi)
Who's idea was that? Barry's? After the way our people are treated by the muzzies?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 02, 2011 08:02 AM (UOM48)
BTW, tomc, if you want to head over to Weasel Zippers you can see the spirit of bipartisanship on display by the Dems. I'm not going to bother with the individual item links as there are so many.
Posted by: andycanuck at May 02, 2011 08:02 AM (Y1DZt)
Liberals Never Disappoint.Jeffrey Toobin is wringing his hands a bit over the "legality" of killing OBL:
http://tinyurl.com/3d5pggc
Posted by: muggedbyreality at May 02, 2011 08:02 AM (pejtw)
Posted by: tomc at May 02, 2011 11:52 AM (7Herw)
Its not a left/right thing. Its another chapter in the long, long book of "Why Keith Olbermann is a douche".
I tell ya what - when Olberdouche stops, we will. Otherwise, game on.
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at May 02, 2011 11:58 AM (OWjjx)
Also, we can't let the narrative be shaped by the people who have traditionally done so. Olbermann and others will happily act like tough guys now that it suits them, but it's important that people are reminded about the media's brazen flip-flops on things like this. All I can say is, God bless new media's long memory!
Posted by: MWR at May 02, 2011 08:03 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: shillelagh at May 02, 2011 08:03 AM (Oz4Bj)
Posted by: Beagle at May 02, 2011 08:03 AM (sOtz/)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 02, 2011 12:02 PM (UOM4
we should have shot him in the guts and beheaded him while he was still alive if you ask me, just saying...
watch the videos of those americans being beheaded alive and tell me i'm being disturbing, payback's a bitch
Posted by: YRM at May 02, 2011 08:04 AM (KaxDD)
Posted by: I'm Dolemite, bitch at May 02, 2011 08:04 AM (PET8M)
Mmmm... BRAINS.... Tasty, tasty brains.
Posted by: Bottom feeding crustacean on ocean floor at May 02, 2011 08:05 AM (SY2Kh)
Is that you, Michael?
;^)
/insider hoser election joke
Posted by: andycanuck at May 02, 2011 08:05 AM (Y1DZt)
>>> Holy crap. Fox radio reporting UBL's body was washed, placed in a weighted bag, and a Muslim religious ceremony held before his body was dropped into the sea.
Who's idea was that? Barry's? After the way our people are treated by the muzzies?
So a group of SEAL's standing around a corpse pissing on it before throwing into pre-chummed shark infested waters is a muzzie tradition?
Who knew?
Posted by: Roadking at May 02, 2011 08:05 AM (quUhk)
Posted by: Y-not hopes God blesses Seal Team Six at May 02, 2011 08:06 AM (pW2o8)
Posted by: logprof at May 02, 2011 12:01 PM (a2hxi)
Rome is an uberdouche, but that's pretty cool.
Posted by: © Sponge at May 02, 2011 08:06 AM (UK9cE)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 02, 2011 12:00 PM (UOM4
I love the libs' cognitive dissonance. Any other day of the week they'd be decrying the "assassination" of a "foreign national" in a "barbaric assault." But because it was done under Bammy's watch, they're out with their freaking Kumbaya rainsticks. It's fly-by-night patriotism.
I'm proud to be an American; always have been, always will be. It would be nice to believe these liberal dunderheads will feel the same as they do now in a week's time, but I doubt it.
Posted by: MWR at May 02, 2011 08:08 AM (4df7R)
we should have shot him in the guts and beheaded him while he was still alive if you ask me, just saying...
watch the videos of those americans being beheaded alive and tell me i'm being disturbing, payback's a bitch
Posted by: YRM at May 02, 2011 12:04 PM (KaxDD)
No, given his bodies back to Pokistan and let them hold a large funeral procession. Rocket and bomb all those involved...Rocket and bomb the following funeral processions....
Posted by: Canadian Infidel at May 02, 2011 08:08 AM (GKQDR)
I was pretty bi-partisan last night and I stand by it. I would have never thought in a million years President Obama would have the brass balls to send a team of Navy SEALs deep into Pakistan to get bin Laden in such an up close and personal way.
Are you kidding me? You really think it took brass balls to make that decision? That was probably the easiest decision the fucker's ever made.
Intelligence knew where he was. Exactly how do you think deWon would have been able to say, "Uh, no. I think we should just let him be. It's not like anyone would ever find out that I had the chance to get him, and let him go."
Posted by: Steph at May 02, 2011 08:09 AM (AkdC5)
Posted by: Queef Doberman at May 02, 2011 08:09 AM (zgZzy)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 02, 2011 12:02 PM (UOM4
I've heard several comments today about why they did that. One former government official or something even said publicly, "See how we treat your dead while you drag ours through the streets and hang them from bridges?"
I'm fine with it. It should keep some radicals at home today......He wasn't a martyr, he's got no virgins coming his way and will spend the rest of eternity with satan's cock rammed up his ass shooting flaming jizz into his intestinal tract.
Posted by: © Sponge at May 02, 2011 08:09 AM (UK9cE)
I mean it sucks to see Obama pandering to our enemies (and make no mistake, any muslim who would get snippy that bin Laden's body wasn't, are our enemies), I just notice the details seems to keep expanding with the retelling.
Posted by: Methos at May 02, 2011 08:10 AM (uqJo6)
Drew-- i love u guys but can't u give it a rest for just ONE day?-- today there are no political parties-- just for today, we're just all Americans-- the war against the lefties is back on in full tomorrow-- just not today, ok?
Posted by: tomc at May 02, 2011 11:52 AM (7Herw)
allow me to be brief: Fuck. That.
Posted by: Unclefacts Luxury-Yacht at May 02, 2011 08:10 AM (6IReR)
Posted by: Michael Smerconish at May 02, 2011 08:10 AM (zgZzy)
Obama obviously wanted to announce this at the WHCA dinner
Posted by: Barney Frank at May 02, 2011 08:11 AM (tvs2p)
I thought Obamas announcement last night was just right. Learning the details, I got to admit that our President did a pretty damn good job. Give him credit when credit is due. Would have been real easy and safe to missle the site. Sending a Seal Team in to shoot him in the head, confirm it was him, then dumping his body into the sea so there can be no shrine to OBL was the best choice. Good job Mr. President.
Posted by: Hammer at May 02, 2011 08:11 AM (hVGDL)
I'm fine with it.
I'm not fine with our military personnel performing a religious ceremony of respect on a mass-murdering cock-sucker. Separation of church and state and all that.
Dump 'im in the Thames.
Posted by: Y-not hopes God blesses Seal Team Six at May 02, 2011 08:11 AM (pW2o8)
Ok. But you do understand that he thinks everytime you post about him its because he is the Edward R. Murrow of our generation and that for us evil conservatives to win, he must be taken down.
Wait -- Keith Olbermann = Edward R. Murrow? There's a guy on MSNBC that broadcasts his show while pretending Messerschmitts are dropping around him?
That actually sounds kinda cool.
Posted by: FireHorse at May 02, 2011 08:12 AM (uUo97)
To be honest with you, I really was a hack.
Posted by: Edward R. Murrow at May 02, 2011 08:13 AM (zgZzy)
These are the same people who have been arguing MIHOP or LIHOP for a decade.
Posted by: nickless at May 02, 2011 08:13 AM (MMC8r)
U.S. Sen. Scott Brown is going to Afghanistan as part of his duties for the National Guard, he said today in an exclusive statement sent to the Herald.
Brown, who is a lieutenant colonel in the Massachusetts Army National Guard, will be doing his required annual training in the war-torn country.
“As a Lieutenant Colonel in the Massachusetts Army National Guard, I have service obligations that I fulfill each year. Following in the tradition of other lawmakers who have completed their military service requirements overseas, this year I have requested to conduct my annual training in Afghanistan,” said Brown in a statement. “Doing so will help me to better understand our ongoing mission in that country, and provide me first-hand experience for my duties on the Senate Armed Services, Homeland Security, and Veterans Affairs committees.”
Posted by: Tami at May 02, 2011 08:13 AM (VuLos)
Posted by: Concerned Caring Conservative Christian at May 02, 2011 08:14 AM (yQWNf)
Posted by: Post It Noter at May 02, 2011 08:14 AM (xhNbo)
Posted by: Hammer at May 02, 2011 12:11 PM (hVGDL)
It was reported last night that they initially discussed bombing the shitstain, but it was decided that doing that could not guarantee proof that they got him. deWon needed to have proof, you see.
What is it about his decision that everyone thinks was so damn hard?
Posted by: Steph at May 02, 2011 08:14 AM (AkdC5)
Obama violated Pakistan sovereignty and executed people without trial - he would be called a war criminal if it were Darth Cheney or McChimpyHitler.
Posted by: Juicer at May 02, 2011 08:15 AM (WAC24)
Posted by: JackStraw at May 02, 2011 08:15 AM (TMB3S)
Posted by: MWR at May 02, 2011 08:15 AM (4df7R)
How can he be beaten now, in 2012, in light of this new campaign strategy?
Because that ain't gonna do shit for the economy or jobs.
Posted by: nickless at May 02, 2011 08:15 AM (MMC8r)
are you serious? you didn't learn from the Gabby Giffords shooting did you? the Paul Wellstone funeral? Katrina? Dems use tragedies to help their politics, we always need to have our guard up
Posted by: YRM at May 02, 2011 11:55 AM (KaxDD)
You're right. The only thing that gives the dems a jump in the poles is violent death. Democrats: The party of death!
Posted by: Soona at May 02, 2011 08:15 AM (IuhAq)
He could have launched a drone attack which would have been less conclusive that we got him or even missed. He also could have tried a joint raid with Pakistan that would have led to OBL being tipped off.
This was a very risky operation and he okayed the riskiest version of it from the list of possibilities.
Sorry, I'm not going to be the other side of Olbermann's coin. Obama did good here and I'm okay with saying it.
Posted by: DrewM. at May 02, 2011 08:16 AM (dXPup)
I see now that the Democrats are ones who care about our military and our nation's standing in the global community. I was blind, but now I see.
Obama/Biden for 2012 and beyond!
Posted by: Y-not hopes God blesses Seal Team Six at May 02, 2011 08:16 AM (pW2o8)
Posted by: Vic at May 02, 2011 08:16 AM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: Keef Olberfuhrer at May 02, 2011 08:16 AM (zgZzy)
Is that you, Michael?
;^)
/insider hoser election joke
Posted by: andycanuck at May 02, 2011 12:05 PM (Y1DZt)
Thanks for making me laugh. That's always a gift.
I'm not voting today. I mentally ceased being a Canadian the moment we had Human Rights Tribunals. I just want Alberta and conservative Southern Ontario parts to separate and let the rest of the socialists burn. I have NO love or loyalty to today's Canada. I hope our socialist, welfare, nanny state burns leaving the productive few to survive. Especially Quebec. And I say this with French blood in my body I can never get rid of. HOWEVER, when I become Korean, I'll always go to the battle sites and pay my respects to Canadian, American and all foreign soldiers for giving a small, good, hard-working conservative country freedon.
Sorry, I'm drinking for the first time in months. Osama's dead. Let's be happy.
Posted by: Canadian Infidel at May 02, 2011 08:16 AM (GKQDR)
Posted by: OCBill at May 02, 2011 08:16 AM (YJvVE)
Posted by: Y-not hopes God blesses Seal Team Six at May 02, 2011 08:16 AM (pW2o8)
Posted by: Howard Dean at May 02, 2011 08:17 AM (8p6Ar)
Posted by: maddogg at May 02, 2011 08:17 AM (OlN4e)
Seriously, do you trolls walk everywhere?
Posted by: $6 a gallon gas, coming to a peaceful urban center near you at May 02, 2011 08:18 AM (uqJo6)
Posted by: Greg, So Called Conservative Who Pops In To Declare Dem Victories at May 02, 2011 08:18 AM (KaxDD)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at May 02, 2011 08:18 AM (mHQ7T)
When do I gets me a picture of special ops guys hanging out over a Bin Laden corpse? I want to hang it next to my favorite picture of Che.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at May 02, 2011 08:18 AM (vULTR)
Is that crazy or what?
Posted by: Gushka at May 02, 2011 08:19 AM (93zw2)
Nah, the WH ones were pretty fishy. Lots of young, white faces. They schlepped over to the White House instead of staying on campus in Georgetown or wherever?
NYC ones were probably spontaneous.
Posted by: Y-not hopes God blesses Seal Team Six at May 02, 2011 08:19 AM (pW2o8)
Posted by: Eric Holder at May 02, 2011 08:19 AM (6zFxS)
Posted by: Concerned Caring Conservative Christian at May 02, 2011 08:19 AM (yQWNf)
Posted by: Krazy Kay In Maine at May 02, 2011 08:20 AM (zgZzy)
Posted by: Joejm65 at May 02, 2011 08:21 AM (1nSnz)
Hi!
Posted by: Inflation at May 02, 2011 12:19 PM (MMC8r)
Piker
Posted by: Son of Stagflation at May 02, 2011 08:21 AM (uqJo6)
Posted by: Schwalbe : The © at May 02, 2011 08:21 AM (UU0OF)
I'll be running against him in 2012. Every time he tries to talk around me, I'll just bump the price of food and fuel another 5%.
Posted by: Stagflation at May 02, 2011 08:21 AM (vULTR)
Hi!
Posted by: Inflation at May 02, 2011 12:19 PM
You think you're bad?
Posted by: Stagflation at May 02, 2011 08:21 AM (6zFxS)
Drew, pay attention, okay?
They initially discussed bombing the fucker, but deWon wanted proof. That was reported last night. That's why they decided to put boots on the ground to take him out. Proof.
If you think it was a hard decision for deWon to make so that he could crow that it was him, mostly him (as he did in his speech) that was responsible for killing OBL you're giving him way too much credit.
Do you honestly think it was a hard decision? Do you not understand his narcissism?
Posted by: Steph at May 02, 2011 08:21 AM (AkdC5)
Posted by: The Hammer at May 02, 2011 08:22 AM (32ubA)
Obama 2012
A free certified, dryed out, pulverized, gift wrapped package of osama's remains for every $150 Fill Up at any gas station.
Posted by: Canadian Infidel at May 02, 2011 08:22 AM (GKQDR)
How can he be beaten now, in 2012, in light of this new campaign strategy?
Because we're a year and a half away from the election. If it was a planned political move, it was a FAIL.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 02, 2011 08:22 AM (zgZzy)
Posted by: polynikes at May 02, 2011 08:22 AM (UzliN)
Dump 'im in the Thames.
Posted by: Y-not hopes God blesses Seal Team Six at May 02, 2011 12:11 PM (pW2o
I just heard that an islamic 'minister' performed the ceremony, so there's no word whether he was military or not.....just saying.
Posted by: © Sponge at May 02, 2011 08:22 AM (UK9cE)
Posted by: jwb7605 at May 02, 2011 08:23 AM (Qxe/p)
Posted by: Stagflation at May 02, 2011 12:21 PM (vULTR)
Damn, you guys are fast.
great hash, by the way.
Posted by: huerfano at May 02, 2011 08:23 AM (6zFxS)
Posted by: Concerned Caring Conservative Christian at May 02, 2011 08:24 AM (yQWNf)
Posted by: maddogg at May 02, 2011 08:25 AM (OlN4e)
I wouldn't be so sure Obama sent the SEAL team in explicitly. I would be more inclined that someone in the chain of command saw the opportunity and took it, while Obama was available for risk-free credit.
The last time anything remotely like this happened, the SEALs wound up being prosecuted, IIRC.
Posted by: Advo at May 02, 2011 08:25 AM (7vbG1)
What is it about his decision that everyone thinks was so damn hard?
The risk was that we could have had 4 burning helicoptors and a dead Seal Team, no OBL or a living gloating OBL. The comparison to Carter and Desert One would have been unavoidable. This was absolutly the best scenario we could have hoped for. Give Obama credit, this was way better than a drone strike. The stature of the US got a much needed lift yesterday.
Posted by: Hammer at May 02, 2011 08:25 AM (hVGDL)
Posted by: Ellie Light at May 02, 2011 08:25 AM (zgZzy)
Proof which we apparently won't be shown.
But the main reason it was not a hard decision is that Obama couldn't care less about the men who executed his orders. He thinks they're beneath him, not being Hahvahd men and all.
So fuck Obama. No bravery involved. And, if he used last night's address as a campaign speech as has been reported, I hope when he's back to being a regular citizen our soldiers give him a piece of their minds.
Posted by: Y-not hopes God blesses Seal Team Six at May 02, 2011 08:25 AM (pW2o8)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at May 02, 2011 08:26 AM (mHQ7T)
He buried Trump. He will outshine any of the dolts the republicans can throw at him.
How can he be beaten now, in 2012, in light of this new campaign strategy?
Posted by: Post It Noter at May 02, 2011 12:14 PM (xhNbo)
Bwahahahahaa, he was playing golf yesterday while this was happening.
Obama and his minions in the press are going to be basking in the glow of our Seals and intelligence officers work for quite awhile. The press is already writing stories that makes it sound like Obama was on the first helecopter in leading the charge.
That isn't going to make gas go down or people start hiring. The more Obama takes credit for the hard work and bravery of others the less people will think of him. He can't help it though, it's the way he is.
He did a good thing in letting the Bush policies go forward and finally getting the scum muzzie. He should acknowlege that and let it go. He won't though and neither will the press.
Posted by: robtr at May 02, 2011 08:26 AM (MtwBb)
Proof which we apparently won't be shown.
He would be wise to release the photos. Would put some of the conspiracy theorists to rest, and give much-needed closure to victims' families.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 02, 2011 08:26 AM (zgZzy)
Posted by: polynikes at May 02, 2011 12:22 PM (UzliN)
From what I've heard, SEAL Team Six is pretty damn covert. I think if this hadn't succeeded, there would have been a lot of plausible deniability splashing around.
Posted by: MWR at May 02, 2011 08:27 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: DrewM. at May 02, 2011 08:27 AM (dXPup)
Posted by: Racefan at May 02, 2011 08:27 AM (c/VBA)
Posted by: Tami at May 02, 2011 08:28 AM (VuLos)
Yup.
There's no way the slobbering press would report an unsuccessful effort. Norfolk and way.
Posted by: Y-not hopes God blesses Seal Team Six at May 02, 2011 08:28 AM (pW2o8)
Where's my MOH, then?
Posted by: Alan Alda at May 02, 2011 08:28 AM (zgZzy)
Posted by: Soona at May 02, 2011 08:28 AM (IuhAq)
Posted by: polynikes at May 02, 2011 12:22 PM (UzliN)
You honestly think he gives a shit about the military? They are nothing more than a means to an end for him.
How many times do I have to say this? It was reported all over the place last night that they initially discussed taking him out with bombs, but that wouldn't necessarily give them proof. That's why they put boots on the ground. Fucking proof in case deWon needed it. He knew it wouldn't be enough to say we bombed him and we're pretty sure he's dead.
Posted by: Steph at May 02, 2011 08:28 AM (AkdC5)
QOUTE: Would put some of the conspiracy theorists to rest
REPLY: um you didn't learn about that whole birther crap did you?/sarc
Posted by: YRM at May 02, 2011 08:29 AM (KaxDD)
He would be wise to release the photos. Would put some of the conspiracy theorists to rest, and give much-needed closure to victims' families.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 02, 2011 12:26 PM (zgZzy)
It took him three years to release his birth certificate despite rampant speculation about his birthplace. It was like pulling teeth. I don't see why this would be any different.
Posted by: MWR at May 02, 2011 08:29 AM (4df7R)
For once, our simple-minded, half-assed ROTUS's flaws actually worked in our favor. Funny old world...
Posted by: Book of Badassery 5:1-2 at May 02, 2011 08:30 AM (GBXon)
REPLY: um you didn't learn about that whole birther crap did you?/sarc
I should have capitalized "SOME." Hell, there are still people who think Hitler is alive.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 02, 2011 08:30 AM (zgZzy)
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at May 02, 2011 08:30 AM (Fh/HM)
I fixed a second pot of coffee because I found some Brendan's in the bottom of the fridge, way in the back.
I'll be combining the aforementioned ingredients in a toast to Seal Team 6, GWB, hell, maybe even Leon Pannetta, WTF knows. I'm in a forgiving mood today.
Pudding to follow...
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at May 02, 2011 08:31 AM (d0Tfm)
Posted by: DrewM. at May 02, 2011 12:27 PM (dXPup)
GWB never tried to take personal credit for the successes of our military.
I give Obama the credit for giving the OK for the operation. Nothing else.
Posted by: MWR at May 02, 2011 08:31 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: elvis presley at May 02, 2011 08:31 AM (Y1DZt)
OK, I'll say it.
Thank You President Obama.
Thank You all of the intelligence people that got the info.
Thank You all of the military that fed, equipped, trained and transported the SEALS safely into and out of the "compound".
And thank you Bin Laden for interrupting the ballistic arc of a certain bullet with your ugly-ass melon.
Posted by: Max Entropy at May 02, 2011 08:32 AM (lH6z9)
--
Hey, DrewM, I defended your decision to say Obama's move was brave. But a lot of us disagree. And we've given great reasons why.
Obama assassinated Osama Bin Laden on the same weekend that he apparently also tried to assassinate Q'daf in an operation that was supposed to be a no-fly zone and for which there was no Congressional approval (or consultation). He succeeded in offing OBL using the tools he and his cronies have been trying dismantle for years. Tools Bush put in place.
We are not safer today than we were yesterday. Whose fault is that?
Posted by: Y-not hopes God blesses Seal Team Six at May 02, 2011 08:32 AM (pW2o8)
I'll do it in like three years or so.
Posted by: Barry the Magnificent at May 02, 2011 08:32 AM (uqJo6)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 02, 2011 08:32 AM (W7Ddq)
Drew-- i love u guys but can't u give it a rest for just ONE day?-- today there are no political parties-- just for today, we're just all Americans-- the war against the lefties is back on in full tomorrow-- just not today, ok?
Pfft tried telling that to my co-workers. The first words our of my co-workers mouth was "We got him. What Bush couldn't do in 8 years Obama did in 3."
Posted by: Tina48 at May 02, 2011 08:32 AM (YkRA3)
Posted by: sexypig at May 02, 2011 08:34 AM (UmEOs)
You sure about that?
Posted by: William Jefferson Clinton at May 02, 2011 08:34 AM (VuLos)
Posted by: andycanuck at May 02, 2011 08:34 AM (Y1DZt)
You sure about that?
Posted by: William Jefferson Clinton at May 02, 2011 12:34 PM (VuLos)
Beat me to it!
Posted by: MWR at May 02, 2011 08:34 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Infidel Librarian at May 02, 2011 08:35 AM (UPPj/)
Be glad that Obama's and America's interests coincided in this case.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 02, 2011 12:32 PM (W7Ddq)
You're right. I give him credit for doing the right thing for once in his pissass life.
Posted by: Steph at May 02, 2011 08:35 AM (AkdC5)
The risk was that we could have had 4 burning helicoptors and a dead Seal Team, no OBL or a living gloating OBL. The comparison to Carter and Desert One would have been unavoidable. This was absolutly the best scenario we could have hoped for. Give Obama credit, this was way better than a drone strike. The stature of the US got a much needed lift yesterday.
Posted by: Hammer at May 02, 2011 12:25 PM (hVGDL)
Yeah, it's a good thing for Obama that all the Seals didn't get killed. He dodged a bullet if you will there.
It will never happen but sometimes maybe you could just honor the people who actually did risk their lives instead of honoring a guy who's only risk was his fucking poll numbers.
We lost a record number of soldiers and marines in afghanistan last month. Maybe you could thank them instead of the guy that plays golf all the time.
Posted by: robtr at May 02, 2011 08:35 AM (MtwBb)
Posted by: naturalfake at May 02, 2011 08:36 AM (jkSbV)
Posted by: Tina48 at May 02, 2011 12:32 PM (YkRA3)
Sorry. No dice. The leftards never stop, nor should we. Fuck them. As far as I'm concerned, they aren't fucking Americans, they are Anti-Americans, and deserve (at the very least) scorn 24/7/365 until they are gone to stone or the end of time. Whichever comes first.
Posted by: maddogg at May 02, 2011 08:36 AM (OlN4e)
Posted by: William Jefferson Clinton at May 02, 2011 12:34 PM (VuLos)
9/11 hadn't happend and we weren't in war in Asscanistan.
Posted by: Steph at May 02, 2011 08:36 AM (AkdC5)
Oooh, I just thought of something. This sounds like a successful version of Jimmah Cahtah's ill fated mission in '79. Many of the details are similar, like a strike team in helicopters in the Middle East, one of which was destroyed by us. No casualties for us this time, thank God.
This was a perfect way for The Vapid One™ to end the comparisons with Jimmah. He gets to officially say he succeeded where Cahtah failed.
That's significant, to be sure. But that bar's awfully low.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at May 02, 2011 08:37 AM (d0Tfm)
Posted by: PakistaniRealty at May 02, 2011 08:38 AM (Ek3sx)
9/11 hadn't happend and we weren't in war in Asscanistan.
Posted by: Steph at May 02, 2011 12:36 PM (AkdC5)
Kobar towers, the Cole, Embassies in Africa.....
Posted by: Tami at May 02, 2011 08:38 AM (VuLos)
137 135 Why did it take this long to give these 2 soldiers the MOH? They were in the Korean war.
yeah...... what took so long. my Dad won the Silver Star there and never did get the medel but did have all the paperwork about it. it kinda was his fault tho, they wanted him to come to Washington on his way home after 3 years in Korea. he told them fuck it, mail it to me and take me to Atlanta.
Posted by: Racefan at May 02, 2011 08:39 AM (c/VBA)
WTF, are you people drunk or high?
Posted by: Unclefacts Luxury-Yacht at May 02, 2011 08:40 AM (6IReR)
Posted by: Tina48 at May 02, 2011 12:32 PM (YkRA3)
For your coworkers.
Bush's policies finally came to fruition despite President Obama.
If future President's kill Quadafi and any other leaders that Obama, the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize winner decides to start a war with without any justifiable reason, we'll give Obama the credit.
And if Obama gets credit for Osama, blame him (which they should be anyways) the next time they're bitching about $4 / gallon gas.
Posted by: Canadian Infidel at May 02, 2011 08:40 AM (GKQDR)
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at May 02, 2011 08:40 AM (qdBf5)
Just got through reading the State Dept's warning all US citizens overseas about the real chance of retalitory attacks by AQ. I'm going to a very islam enriched area in June. Oops.
Posted by: Soona at May 02, 2011 08:40 AM (IuhAq)
Sorry. No dice. The leftards never stop, nor should we. Fuck them. As far as I'm concerned, they aren't fucking Americans, they are Anti-Americans, and deserve (at the very least) scorn 24/7/365 until they are gone to stone or the end of time. Whichever comes first.
Posted by: maddogg at May 02, 2011 12:36 PM (OlN4e)
I work in Harlem so they're already declaring the second coming of Obama in 2012. Sucks that I'm not able to enjoy today. These drones are becoming too insufferable for me to handle.
Posted by: Tina48 at May 02, 2011 08:41 AM (YkRA3)
Posted by: DrewM. at May 02, 2011 12:27 PM (dXPup)
No not really, I remember being disgusted by the left when they accused Bush of lying and violating international law. I don't remember ever looking to the left to give Bush credit for anything.
I remember mocking Harry Reid when he lied and said the war was lost, I remember mocking several democrats when they lied and said the surge didn't work.
I don't ever remember looking to the left for credit on anything. I am not that naive.
Posted by: robtr at May 02, 2011 08:43 AM (MtwBb)
Posted by: JackStraw at May 02, 2011 08:43 AM (TMB3S)
But after that speech last night, Barky will find it impossible to end the comparisons with W. After their momentary patriotism fades, how will he ever get the left back?
Posted by: Retread at May 02, 2011 08:43 AM (okCHU)
Posted by: SoupOrMan at May 02, 2011 08:45 AM (J991N)
Predictable, yet unfuckingbelieveable- Musharraf is whining about the US violating Pakistani sovereignty and our lack of trust in them..
Just be glad that we violated your sovereignty with a 5.56mm projectile instead of with the 20 megaton variety, fucker.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at May 02, 2011 08:46 AM (SY2Kh)
Kobar towers, the Cole, Embassies in Africa.....
Posted by: Tami at May 02, 2011 12:38 PM (VuLos)
Not on our soil. 9/11 could not be rationalized away.
Posted by: Steph at May 02, 2011 08:46 AM (AkdC5)
Is that an advertisement for a rental house in Abbottabad?
Posted by: Tami at May 02, 2011 08:46 AM (VuLos)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 02, 2011 08:46 AM (OW0nw)
"Is it right to celebrate "murder"" ???
Posted by: chewydog at May 02, 2011 08:47 AM (dVE1a)
Several dozen JSOC operatives have died in Pakistan over the past several years. Their names are released by the Defense Department in the usual manner, but with a cover story — generally, they were killed in training accidents in eastern Afghanistan. That’s the code…
That's what deWon would have depended on if things had gone bad. Get it, now?
Posted by: Steph at May 02, 2011 08:48 AM (AkdC5)
The risk was that we could have had 4 burning helicoptors and a dead Seal Team, no OBL or a living gloating OBL. The comparison to Carter and Desert One would have been unavoidable. This was absolutly the best scenario we could have hoped for. Give Obama credit, this was way better than a drone strike. The stature of the US got a much needed lift yesterday.
Posted by: Hammer at May 02, 2011 12:25 PM (hVGDL)
Yeah, it's a good thing for Obama that all the Seals didn't get killed. He dodged a bullet if you will there.
It will never happen but sometimes maybe you could just honor the people who actually did risk their lives instead of honoring a guy who's only risk was his fucking poll numbers.
We lost a record number of soldiers and marines in afghanistan last month. Maybe you could thank them instead of the guy that plays golf all the time.
Posted by: robtr at May 02, 2011 12:35 PM (MtwBb)
I will make my sixth trip to Afghanistan next month. I have spent a few years in uniform and honor those that I have served with, and still serve with. robtr, you dont know me, so don't jump to conclusions.
Posted by: Hammer at May 02, 2011 08:49 AM (hVGDL)
Sorry. No dice. The leftards never stop, nor should we. Fuck them. As far as I'm concerned, they aren't fucking Americans, they are Anti-Americans, and deserve (at the very least) scorn 24/7/365 until they are gone to stone or the end of time. Whichever comes first.
Posted by: maddogg at May 02, 2011 12:36 PM (OlN4e)
I prefer bloody constraint, m'self.
Posted by: Henry V at May 02, 2011 08:49 AM (PET8M)
--The deficient grade of concern trolls Axelrod gets nowadays are symptomatic of runaway inflation.
Thanks, Helicopter Ben!
Posted by: logprof at May 02, 2011 08:50 AM (a2hxi)
Who's idea was that? Barry's? After the way our people are treated by the muzzies?
His carcass should should have been raped by pigs and then burned on pay-per -view. No more debt crisis.
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at May 02, 2011 08:51 AM (pdRb1)
Do you own a calendar?
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 02, 2011 12:46 PM (OW0nw)
Jesus...lighten up.
Posted by: Tami at May 02, 2011 08:51 AM (VuLos)
Is that an advertisement for a rental house in Abbottabad?
Posted by: Tami at May 02, 2011 12:46 PM (VuLos)
It's a fatwa. The list is all the commenters nics that show negativity to the RoP.
Posted by: Soona at May 02, 2011 08:53 AM (IuhAq)
Posted by: Post It Noter at May 02, 2011 12:14 PM (xhNbo)
Operation . . . Desert Storm!
Posted by: George Herbert Walker Bush, 1991 at May 02, 2011 08:53 AM (a2hxi)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 02, 2011 08:56 AM (+61wI)
According to the ladies Olberqueefs vein isn't enough to do much of anything.
Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at May 02, 2011 08:58 AM (LTXKt)
Posted by: rightzilla at May 02, 2011 08:58 AM (SPVfc)
Posted by: maddogg at May 02, 2011 12:36 PM (OlN4e)
I prefer bloody constraint, m'self.
Posted by: Henry V at May 02, 2011 12:49 PM (PET8M)
I like how you two think. You're in the same ballpark as me. I think we probably all think the same but just don't say it....
Posted by: Canadian Infidel at May 02, 2011 08:58 AM (GKQDR)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 02, 2011 12:56 PM (+61wI)
True...you didn't threaten me with your cock.
Posted by: Tami at May 02, 2011 09:02 AM (VuLos)
The second SOB- Obama-- may get some sort of dead cat bounce, but it will be transient. As soon as people go back to buying gas and groceries, it will be WTF time, and not in the way that poser in the White House wants it to mean.
He jacked the economy so badly that nothing he can do will improve the numbers people are seeing- and having to pay for.
Posted by: backhoe at May 02, 2011 09:03 AM (0bk6W)
Sorry. No dice. The leftards never stop, nor should we. Fuck them. As far as I'm concerned, they aren't fucking Americans, they are Anti-Americans, and deserve (at the very least) scorn 24/7/365 until they are gone to stone or the end of time. Whichever comes first.
Posted by: maddogg at May 02, 2011 12:36 PM (OlN4e)
---------
Dauphin of Olberqueef: What from him in AOSQH?
Duke of Morons: Scorn and defiance. Slight regard. Contempt. And anything else that might not misbecome the mighty sender doth he prize you.
Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at May 02, 2011 09:03 AM (LTXKt)
Just wondering....
Posted by: Eric in Chicago at May 02, 2011 09:03 AM (PET8M)
Yesterday, Barack Obama obtained the intelligence of George W. Bush, and acted accordingly.
Posted by: jwb7605 at May 02, 2011 09:03 AM (Qxe/p)
Duke of Morons: Scorn and defiance. Slight regard. Contempt. And anything else that might not misbecome the mighty sender doth he prize you.
Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at May 02, 2011 01:03 PM (LTXKt)
I like you. Hell, I might even let you fuck my sister.
Posted by: Gunnery Sergeant Hartmann at May 02, 2011 09:04 AM (PET8M)
Yesterday, Barack Obama obtained the intelligence of George W. Bush, and acted accordingly.
Posted by: jwb7605 at May 02, 2011 01:03 PM (Qxe/p)
That works on so many levels.
Posted by: Eric in Chicago at May 02, 2011 09:05 AM (PET8M)
I will make my sixth trip to Afghanistan next month. I have spent a few years in uniform and honor those that I have served with, and still serve with. robtr, you dont know me, so don't jump to conclusions.
Posted by: Hammer at May 02, 2011 12:49 PM (hVGDL)
Really, good for you. I only went to Vietnam once. I never spent much time concerning myself on how decisions made there would affect the guy sitting in the whitehouse.
To each his own though.
Posted by: robtr at May 02, 2011 09:08 AM (MtwBb)
Posted by: polynikes at May 02, 2011 09:16 AM (UzliN)
The more details that emerge here the less this passes the smell test. I still don't get the time line (DNA test, but that could be ignorance of procedure), duration of the mission ,40 minutes, as I'm given to understand, the proximity to Pak military units, and their lack of response, perimeter security, way too much that doesn't hang together. I'll freely admit to going on what has been put forth, but still.....
Or am I just being blinded by my disgust of this administration?
Posted by: irongrampa at May 02, 2011 09:20 AM (ud5dN)
Posted by: andycanuck at May 02, 2011 12:05 PM (Y1DZt)
eat my moon-pie ya bastige-- American's only today!
Posted by: tomc at May 02, 2011 09:27 AM (7Herw)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 02, 2011 09:46 AM (1Jaio)
"and btw I agree w/ this post wholeheartdely, the narritive of "Dubya didn't get him, Obama did!" is already passing around, I say the troops got him and we should just be happy the fucker's gone not who it benefits"
Posted by: YRM at May 02, 2011 11:49 AM (KaxDD)
Fifty bucks says the people that pulled the triggers didn't vote for Obama.
Posted by: Absentee Votes of Elections Past at May 02, 2011 11:19 AM (nBE5A)
Posted by: John Edwards, litigating for PTSD for some pussy that saw 9/11 on tv and had some scary dreams at May 02, 2011 11:28 AM (nBE5A)
Posted by: richard mcenroe at May 02, 2011 11:42 AM (SKj5l)
Posted by: richard mcenroe at May 02, 2011 11:44 AM (SKj5l)
Just wondering....
Posted by: Eric in Chicago at May 02, 2011 01:03 PM (PET8M)
Nope. No siree. It is unheard of.
Posted by: Yasser Arafat at May 02, 2011 01:51 PM (WAC24)
Posted by: radii shoes at June 28, 2011 06:36 PM (kQv6g)
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like the Gabby Giffords shooting, look for this to lead to the MSM and the polls hyping up "Obama's Back!" narritive. Soon enough though like that small bump w/ that tragic shooting, evrything will go back to normal and it'll be all about the economy & who the GOP fields in 2012.
remember HW wasn't re-elected after record breaking approval ratings, and his son Dubya was a OH loss from being a 1 termer in the 04 election aeven after record approvals of his own. foreign policy rarely matters in an election. it's the economy stupid!
Posted by: YRM at May 02, 2011 07:48 AM (KaxDD)