1 Obama is a Stuttering Clusterfuck Of A Miserable Failure.

The shortsightedness of the liberal mindset is staggering.

2 You know it's really bullshit to say libertarians are Paulbots. Most libertarians, including me, can't stand the man. Just saying.

3 Well, at least until the Chinese seize them for their natural resources. Until then -- sounds cool.

4 Crony Capitalism is the answer. Bribe politicians to send massive subsidies to your risky businesses. If they pay off, no problem, because the government did not take an equity position.

5 Uh NO -- I don't even know if I could handle taking a cruise, I need to be able to walk off on solid ground at any time. I'm counting on harsh WY winds turning back the hordes - that plus not having a whole lot for anyone to take.

6

There's one problem with the left's never-ending desire to TAX THE RICH.

You could remove every penny from the "rich" and give it to the government and it wouldn't make much of a dent in our debt. Then what? The engines of our economy will be gone and we will descend into real poverty.

& All for what? So that the democrats can have their precious "fairness".

 

 

7

"The middle class will soon trade their unrealistic dreams of wealth for the opportunity to transfer money from total strangers to themselves—a process often referred to as fairness."

Damnit, Scott Adams, stop making me almost like you.

8

The democrats seem to be clueless about stimulating jobs. The left's only answer is to hire government zombies to make the rest of our lives miserable by paying the zombies to think of new and clever ways to kill-off the private sector through vilification and punitive taxation.

A vicious cycle that only helps push the US into a quasi-neo-fascist state where unaccountable over-paid government workers can bully the rest of us around using our own money to do it.

 

 

9 The real problem isn't the Democrats and the Progressives penchant for "fairness", it's the willingness of a large segment of the American populace to go along with that.

And I think we can lay the blame for this fully at the feet of our public education system that turns out people who cannot think deeper than their emotions.

10

btw- I nominate Roseanne barr and michael moore for democrat prom queen and king.

 

11

@10

Where would you find big enough thrones?

12 10 btw- I nominate Roseanne barr and michael moore for democrat prom queen and king. Posted by: Lemon Kitten at October 02, 2011 02:00 PM (0fzsA) Try not to be in the same building as them when they have the last dance.

13 Robert A. Heinlein predicted the rich would migrate to boats in international waters in his book "I Will Fear No Evil."

14 There'll be no more frustrations
Just friendly crustaceans

15

@11

Good point. Might have to find another planet with thrones that have a different gravitational pull.

 

16 6: The marxists moan that the business owners make a profit on the employees labor. They never admit that the business very often adds value to the employee's labor over what they could earn just off by themselves. (Ayn Rand has the Francisco character make this point in Atlas Shrugged --too bad the book is a bit tedious overall)

17 I'm planning on stowing away on one of these megashipcities and paying my way polishing all the rich people's gold.

Gonna make a fortune I tells ya!

18 Icing on the cake - all the poor downtrodden will no longer have to finance the roads, schools, police, etc. ad nauseum. Lizzie Warren will finally be able to sigh relief that the rich are no longer the moocher class.

19 Next to the paper towel dispensers mounted about waist high in their bathrooms.

20 Here are some nice boats that would make the toil of a seafaring life bearable for us. http://tinyurl.com/6l44bcd

21 my boss had a boat filled with sea nympths

22

Just a reminder to the rich though - it is a federal crime to expatriate in order to avoid taxes. Google "expatriation tax".

 

They have all the angles covered.

23

"Okay, but what about the rest of us? What if I want to aimlessly drift along the North Atlantic Current until global warming shuts it all down? Well, there's always Seasteading if you can handle being trapped on a floating libertarian utopia with a bunch of yammering Paulbots. Otherwise, it looks like we'll have to go with makeshift rafts. I'm told Glenn Beck's non-hybrid survival seeds will grow in the open ocean, though. So that's a plus."

 

wow, someone is a bit confused about who the enemy is...

24 and i'm not a paulbot! i've never voted for him and i never will.

25 Careful with That Axe, Eugene.

26

12 - Yeah - that balcony is going down. Video at 11.

 

27 Valu-rite Cruise lines...      think about it...

28
  How can it not dawn on these shits that without business and the "rich" there isn't any future as a country?  It doesn't take a degree in economics to see that destroying  the producers will result in collapse......does it?

29 You mean, float around on an island-ship in an area that the UN has claimed legal rights regarding? Yeah, that'll work about as well as moving right to the most socialist place you could choose. Something about out of the pan and into the fire comes to mind. At some point, billionaires had best understand that crony capitalism leads directly to soft-socialism (actually they are the same to a certain point). As socialism fails (as it always does), cronies are tossed under the bus for the populism of promises to keep the ponzi scheme going, which keeps the socialist elites in power for a little longer, until it can grab guns and control and enlarge the military/police/intelligence groups. Now it is global, including oceans. The only way for the rich to hold on is to combat socialism everywhere and always.

30 How can it not dawn on these shits that without business and the "rich" there isn't any future as a country?  It doesn't take a degree in economics to see that destroying  the producers will result in collapse......does it?

Posted by: irongrampa at October 02, 2011 02:21 PM (SAMxH)

What the hell are you talking about?

31

^{Where would you find big enough thrones?}

^{Posted by: JDTAY at October 02, 2011 02:01 PM (d5HLJ)}

I feel sorry for the toilets in that house.

32

Hmmm. A post about ships and nautical cities immediately following a pic of a cute cheerleader in a sailor suit?

I see what you did there.

And it's working. Arrghh, me hardies...

33 32

They have all the angles covered.

Posted by: Jimmah at October 02, 2011 02:14 PM (g9KCn)

The exception to the rule is to seek shelter in a country not holding a reciprocal agreement for extradition. If the government changes, which they do frequently, you could be offered up as a prize for future gain. This is a risky bet.

Also, where do you park your money? The IRS exercises muscle throughout the world, and puts pressure on banks to give up their preferential customers for other considerations. The number of American's who believed Swiss privacy banking laws protected them from prying eyes, are now facing large fines and possible imprisonment.

The Marxist have us by the balls!
----

Could swear I read the other day that Communist China (of all places) is one of the last places to put money outside of IRS jusrisdiction. As long as the particular Chinese bank has no branches inside the US.

34
Hi everyone I'm a guy aged 23, throughout my life my political viewpoint has shifted quite a bit... after a few years time I discovered that I was a libertarian, so I become a libertarian for a few years, and suddenly Ron Paul came along and my faith in the system returned, sadly he wasn't elected so my faith went spiralling, oddly I moved on, I still like Ron Paul, but his policy is not my main political viewpoint. I have now become an anarchist with a lot of other things in it as well.

What I can bring to the Seasteading project: Well, I'm fairly adept with 3D applications (3Ds Max and Unity3D) if for some reason that is needed, the same goes for 2D applications (mainly Photoshop), besides that I like tinkering with different projects, especially environmentally friendly or in other senses better for the world as a whole. I also do a bit of leather working (the only way i can see that as being apply able to Seasteading is the ability to make water- and wind-proof clothing, though there are probably other applications) and lastly I'm a home brewer, I enjoy making meads and ciders with unusual though delicious flavours.

Logan
Seasteading Forums



"Hey, free buffet lunch!"
Circling school of hungry sharks

35

How about a taxation level that is fair to everyone.... Non-punitive and job-stimulating? Huh - democrats? Oh -we cannot have that - that WOULDN'T be "FAAAAIRRRR".

The truth is that the democrats are attempting (yet again) to funnel more money and private property from private citizens TO democrat cronies, donors and unions. Pure and simple. Look where it has got us. Piles of debt, record numbers of unaccountable bureaucrats with tax payer funded salaries and pensions, record unemployment, zero confidence, economic anemia, etc..

AND what to the democrats want? MORE!

 

36 But lately there's more fatalism in the air, thanks to our crushing debt and the hobo militias that I assume are forming all over the country. I'm sure the bashing of businesses and staggering regulations making job creation an act of sacrifice instead of profitable, and the constant bashing of businesses and "the rich" have more to do with the fatalism than simply debt (bad enough as it is). And the left is stoking the fires of that fatalism with gasoline and green-eyed greedy rhetoric, rubbing their hands and snickering at the thought of all the looting.

37 Right. The rich are parasites. Unless you're a rich law school professor who gets paid huge dollars for being a consultant to government. That would be god's work, if there was a god,

38 Have we learned nothing from the the game Bioshock?

39 Also, floating cities would be inviting targets for money-mad states or jealous looters or pirates or a combination of all three. And I can completely see leftist politicians and bureaucrats egging on attacks on these "hoarders and plutocrats" who have tried to get out of their clutches. The only way the plan to flee from the robbers and tax men could succeed is if it wasn't necessary in the first place - if they were really harmless. But they're not, and they will come after you. Nothing left to do but stay and fight. Ironically the concept of Rapture from Bioshock makes a little more sense, if practically impossible, because it was a secret location.

40 haitians,tunisians,cubans,egyptoians
damn it's getting crowded!
where's a white boy  suppossed to hang his dingy?
after the left abandoned vietnam the term 'boat people' came into being
now they want to claim it?

41 Arrghh, me hardies...

You rang?

42
Waterworld is just around the corner!

43
  @34  
     
     Heh. Missed that until I read the nic.  It will come soon enough for California, I'm sure. I feel bad for those left there who aren't looters, too bad they'll have to go down with the rest.
 

44 invest in harpoons...........

45 Cuba. If your willing to kill about 20 guys, the place can be yours.

46
  Again, it's freaking scary how closely the unfolding situation resembles Atlas Shrugged. In some cases, almost verbatim. If Obama is reelected. the process will accelerate imho. with Romney--same thing, slower rate.

   Gray thoughts, for a gray day.

47 How long until the losers from the Sea Shepard show up? Unless they invest in a navy, that's what is going to happen.

48 Great, funny Scott Adams article.

49

Hi everyone I'm a guy aged 23, throughout my life my political viewpoint has shifted quite a bit...

Huh? What "life?" You're 23, which makes you about 6 years old in political terms. According to most psychologists, you have yet to reach the age of emotional maturity, which stood around the age of 26 ten years ago. And speaking of emotional maturity, given what we've seen of anarchists this weekend in NYC, that goal seems very far away for someone like you.

You claim to "bring something" to Seastead? How about the ability to repair a critical part of some machine that's essential to life on the high seas? Seems to me that that would be more inportant than your ability to make grog and be "environmentally responsible."

Good luck with that. You could've counted yourself lucky if you'd had an economics professor who actually understood free-market economics and the very real benefits of capitalism (see US, Twentieth Century as an example), but I'm certain that you had the same radial lefty, Socialist/Communist indoctrination overlord that taught our Clusterfuck-in-Chief, or a reasonable fascimilie thereof.

Be sure to eat a one of those new Snickers bars with peanut butter in it. I hear sharks like the taste a lot.

You would be less than useless aboard any ship, which said sharks would appreciate. You're also crunchy...

50 Speaking of Seasteading, a couple months ago there was a column about it that expressed doubt about it.  Instead of delving into the reasons just why the rich and resourceful would take such extraordinary measures for living, the columnist mustered Bioshock, a vidio game about zombies, as reason for skepticism of the idea.  But yeah, the Seasteaders are the unrealistic ones!

51
btw, has Obama said a word about this Occupy joke? A single word? Do you think there's a chance that Napolitano is entertaining the notion that they're ripe for disastrous exploitation by seriously violence-prone opportunists? I mean, it would kind of reflect badly on her and all if the Metropolitan Life building blew up or whatever. Although hell, she might get to be the Chief Commandant of something if we make it to martial law.

Too much coffee, not enough exercise.

52

the founding documents make the role of government in our society very clear, the governments function is to protect our persons, our property and our god-given rights.

it is not to prevent people from going where they want and living as they chose, so long as they do not harm others.

i reject the Statism of both the Left and the Right, i accept the level of Statism established at the founding of the republic and no more.

that doesn't make me an Anarchist, that makes me an Orginalist.

 

 

 

 

53
Cuba. If your willing to kill about 20 guys, the place can be yours.
Posted by: pawn at October 02, 2011 02:40 PM

Heh. Nice weather, a beach, foxy locals, good cigars, and salsa dancing to boot.

54

You know that Scott Adams is a total lefty, right?  I love his comics,and I used to visit his blog but I finally had to stop 'cause the lefty brainwashing & bile was too much to handle. 

He used to work for the phone company out in California, San Fran I believe, and was a unionized member of the workforce.  That's where he got all his material about the total uselessness of working in a big company with lots of pointless meetings and all.

I think he's pulling everybody's leg here about how we should all move out to sea.  Unless of course he (as a certified member of the rich) has recently purchased a boat and is taking sailing lessons.

55 How can it not dawn on these shits that without business and the "rich" there isn't any future as a country?  It doesn't take a degree in economics to see that destroying  the producers will result in collapse......does it?
Posted by: irongrampa at October 02, 2011 02:21 PM (SAMxH)

then she saw the answer; she saw the secret premise behind their words. with all of their noisy devotion to the age of science, their hysterically technological jargon, their cyclotrons, their sound rays, these men were moved forward, not by the image of an industrial skyline, but by the vision of that form of existence which the industrialists had swept away – the vision of a fat, unhygienic rajah of india, with vacant eyes staring in indolent stupor out of stagnant layers of flesh, with nothing to do but run previous gems through his fingers and, once in a while, stick a knife into the body of a starved, toil-dazed, germ-eaten creature, as a claim to a few grains of the creature’s rice, then claim it from hundreds of millions of such creatures and thus let the rice grains gather into gems. she had thought that industrial production was a value not to be questioned by anyone; she had thought that these men’s urge to expropriate the factories of others was their acknowledgment of the factories’ value. she, born of the industrial revolution, had not held as conceivable, had forgotten along with the tales of astrology and alchemy, what these men knew at their secret, furtive souls, knew not by means of thought, but by means of that nameless much which they called their instincts and emotions: that so long as men struggle to stay alive, they’ll never produce so little but that the man with the club won’t be able to seize it and leave them still less, provided millions of them are willing to submit – that the harder their work and the less their gain, the more submissive the fiber of their spirit – that men who live by pulling levers at an electric switchboard, are not easily ruled, but men who live by digging the soil with their naked fingers, are – that the feudal baron did not need electronic factories in order to drink his brains away out of jeweled goblets, and neither did the rajahs of the people’s state of india.

56 Do you think there's a chance that Napolitano is entertaining the notion that they're ripe for disastrous exploitation by seriously violence-prone opportunists? Posted by: arhooley at October 02, 2011 02:49 PM (ymPoE) Not only is she entertaining the notion, she finds the notion entertaining!

57 u must never sail to australia. never!
katie told me they have sharks with red vaginas and laser beams on their heads

58 You're also crunchy...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Tea Party SOB at October 02, 2011 02:45 PM (d0Tfm)

And taste good with ketchup.

59 59

You know that Scott Adams is a total lefty, right? I love his comics,and I used to visit his blog but I finally had to stop 'cause the lefty brainwashing & bile was too much to handle.

He used to work for the phone company out in California, San Fran I believe, and was a unionized member of the workforce. That's where he got all his material about the total uselessness of working in a big company with lots of pointless meetings and all.

I think he's pulling everybody's leg here about how we should all move out to sea. Unless of course he (as a certified member of the rich) has recently purchased a boat and is taking sailing lessons.

Posted by: Boots at October 02, 2011 02:51 PM (neKzn)

 

thanks for that info, i will take it into account... but i will continue to support the truth no matter what mouth it comes out of.

60 http://is.gd/23K6jZ

The link is to the New Zealand blog, Trevor Loudon.  He has an article about Bev Perdue and her comment about suspending the elections.  Evidently in2010 Obama started some Dem. Gov. association to do who knows what.  It is an interesting read.

61

62 Sorry wrong link.  This is better.
http://is.gd/3wVhW5

63

  Keep wondering where the tipping point is. It certainly is coming, but when?

64 What I can bring to the Seasteading project: Well, I'm fairly adept with 3D applications... I also do a bit of leather working... and lastly I'm a home brewer, I enjoy making meads and ciders with unusual though delicious flavours. Logan Seasteading Forums Ten bucks says he has a shoebox full of D12 dice and RPG manuals.

65 and maybe Boots is right, maybe Adams is pulling our chains or being sarcastic, i'm not sure, but i am sure that there are people on both ends of the political spectrum that are perfectly happy with the level of Statism now present and only decry that fact that they aren't the ones weilding it.

66 Keep wondering where the tipping point is. It certainly is coming, but when? Guam.

67 but i am sure that there are people on both ends of the political spectrum that are perfectly happy with the level of Statism now present *whistles, looks at shoes

68 Keep wondering where the tipping point is.

Gilley's Bar. 

69 14 Was that from the Iliad or the Odyssey?

70 Without capitalism we have only the royals and the peasants. It was business, merchants like the Hanseatic League that created a middle class, the Renaissance and ended medieval Europe. Too bad history has become junk science, too. Funny how those who think they are the royals want to eliminate the middle class

71 Without capitalism, there is no middle class.

Without capitalism, there is no freedom.

Without capitalism, there is no peace.

oh, sorry, got carried away.

72 This may be a little off topic, but it has to do with "The Rich"... So, here goes...

I'm sitting here watching NASCAR (Dover) when Dale Earnhardt Jr. comes on and tells me: "Nationwide answers to the customer, not Wall St."

So, I much assume, Nationwide Insurance Company is some sort of Not-For-Profit business... Or, that a privately held insurance company will give me a better deal than a publicly held one.

Is that right?

73 Nationwide answers to the customer, not Wall St.

I was thinking it was like a credit union, where the customers own it.  Not sure.

74 Keep wondering where the tipping point is. It certainly is coming, but when? Posted by: irongrampa at October 02, 2011 03:05 PM (SAMxH) Tipping points can only be seen in the rear-view mirror, sorry.

75 OT: CBS News reports the pics were snapped by an Associated Press photographer who says he was tipped off that she [Michelle O] would be there [Target]

76

"Nationwide answers to the customer, not Wall St."

 

wonder how long that would last if serious talk of ending state-mandated auto insurance laws were underway.

not long is my guess...

77 It's amazing that anyone recognized her with photographers taking pictures of her.

78 Coincidentally enough, my husband is searching Craigslist for boats today.

79 81 OT: CBS News reports the pics were snapped by an Associated Press photographer who says he was tipped off that she [Michelle O] would be there [Target]

Posted by: cherry pi, terrorist hostage taking SOB at October 02, 2011 03:18 PM (OhYCU)

Did Michelle call before she left the WH or while on her way there?

80 I approve of this idea.

81 Why not just buy an RV and hit the road? If you're worried about gas prices it's not like you have to drive 500 miles every day.

82

They keep using this word "fairness"".  I don't think it means what they think it means.  A very smart psychiatrist once told me that fairness is not an adult concept.  Children understand it and believe in it.  It means I get more cake than Jimmy.  If you carefully divide the cake into equal parts, no matter who chooses first, Jimmy's share is always bigger, and the whole deal is unfair. 

Fairness, per se, is not measurable.  Equality is.  That is probably why the Constitution calls for equal treatment under the law, and the word fairness is not to be found in it, so far as I recall.  Fairness does not exist in nature.  Big fish eat little fish, lions eat antelope, and everyone dies. 

83 Keep mocking me.

84 Dr. Fish: The US exit tax on the rich is only an issue if you intend to come back to the US.

As this country gets closer to becoming a socialist cess-pit, any reason to return starts to go away.

85 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

86 That fucking moron hasn't spent enough time outside if he thinks leather is genuinely waterproof. Depending on type, it can be water-resistant, but that's a long fucking way from waterPROOF.

Yeah, I have a dice collection and a bunch of old wargames manuals on a shelf in the front bedroom library, but I don't consider them on the essential packing list for the end of the world.

87 Thanks for sharing, please keep an update about this info. love to read it more. i like this site too much.

88 So basically we will be able to credit Obama for an entire class of James Bond villains?

89 A floating city of rich folk escaping a land-based dystopia? Someone's been playing Hydrophobia.

http://alturl.com/hs7iv

90

Sounds like WaterWorld for the 'super-rich'.

Or that evil super-rich guy in that James Bond movie, Stromberg(JOOOO!).