1 Praise Allah for this new thread

2 Still too much opportunity for graft  for the pols and journalists not to buy in....

but eventually, a lot of those people will become tarnished by their catastrophic AGW stand and their demands for increased energy taxes and regulation.  Hope so anyway.  Personally, I hope for criminal charges.

Lets hope also for another climategate leak.

3 if Chinese emissions are cooling things off why is it that most of the cooling is in the Southern Hemisphere while the emissions are in the Northern?

Because, shut up, that's why. You horrible denier you.

4 Its hot today.  I thought Obama was going to fix this stuff.

5 Therefore even though I consider this a dead horse, I still beat it.

We should all continue to beat this horse because it will NEVER be dead. The libtards never give up on ideas like this even after you have totally squashed them.

6 cosmic rays create little specks of crap in the upper atmosphere

I love science speak.

7 There's a good video that explains the gamma ray - cloud formation relationship to climate and all the nasty things GW nuts do to undermine the research. I think it's based on Henrik Svensmark's work. Part 1 is here: http://youtu.be/dKoUwttE0BA There are six parts. Very interesting.

8 Well, high summer is prime time for the Warmists®. I alreeady have a bunch of "friends" wailing about the (absolutely normal) hot temps being proof of AGW, and they see Texas as getting a special dose for being unbeiliver central.

9 Everyone knows that the radiation from nukes set off up here goes straight to Australia and kills everybody at the end of the movie.

10

Maybe the cosmic ray guy is smart enough to realize that a crapload of so-called geniuses have stuck their tenured dicks into the pencil shapener, and he doesn't want to share that particular bonding experience. Especially since his area of expertise sounds like a comic book based upon Ray Charles as a crime fighting, piano playing blind superhero.

 

But this is just a guess.

11 Unbeliever central, as well.

12 Well, high summer is prime time for the Warmists®. I alreeady have a bunch of "friends" wailing about the (absolutely normal) hot temps being proof of AGW, and they see Texas as getting a special dose for being unbeiliver central.

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet

 

All winter I made a point of saying that I was off to shovel another seven inches of global warming. If they made to argue I told them that I had an extra shovel, and would listen to them while they worked. No takers.

13 I still beat it.

Me too.

No One Wants To Be Defeated
Showin' How Funky Strong Is Your Fight
It Doesn't Matter Who's Wrong Or Right
Just beat it.

14 Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at July 18, 2011 04:01 PM (YmPwQ)

I know that it's hot this year, but really, does no one remember 1980?  It's really not that bad.

Besides, I still need to bake the cold from this winter out of my bones.

My real issue with the Warmists is: why do I care?  Higher global temperatures might (but only might, we're not sure) inconvenience people in coastal areas, but over all, warmer weather means a longer growing season, which means more food for people, which means less starvation.

I thought less starvation was a good thing.

15 Congratulations to House Republicans for passing the Antique Bulb Amendment.

Enjoy your new higher electric bills.

Oh, and BTW, all the new, more efficient bulbs (including incandescents) are already out - so don't be fooled into buying those. Be a true American and insist on only certified 19th century technology!

16 The Philly Zoo has an exibit call "Xtinction" where they yammer about global warming contrbuting to the problem.  They don't ever give up.

17 Oh, and BTW, all the new, more efficient bulbs (including incandescents) are already out - so don't be fooled into buying those. Be a true American and insist on only certified 19th century technology!

Posted by: JEA

Naw. I wanna be a true American and buy more Chinese crap. At least this time, I'll know its full of mercury. Leaves out the guesswork that way. And yeah, we have to be forced to do it, cuase that's how the Left rolls.

 

You never did explain why the ten year spending spree was due to the GOP you useless prick.

18 14 I thought less starvation was a good thing.

Not if it means more people. 

But here is the real problem for the warmists.  They claim they worry about the Maldive Islands going under because of sea level rise.  But that just ain't happening.

If AGW was a real problem, real estate in the Maldives would be a real bargain.  It isn't.  In fact, it is just the opposite.

19 Posted by: JEA at July 18, 2011 04:05 PM (lP8dE)

You know, I've got CFLs for my livingroom and my bedroom- but they just don't fit in that many of my outlets- so they suck.

Also, they don't cut down all that much on my electricity, since I leave the lights off whenver possible (including when I'm in the room if there's enough light coming in through the windows)- so they suck.

Finally, they don't actually last as long as advertised, and they're far more expensive than that "19th century technology"- not to mention hazardous to your health if you drop one and it breaks- so they end up costing me more in the long run.  So they suck.

So, since CFLs suck, I want to be able to buy affordable lightbulbs that don't suck.  If you want to buy more expensive lightbulbs that do suck, that's your business.

20 Oh, and BTW, all the new, more efficient bulbs (including incandescents) are already out - so don't be fooled into buying those.

You mean like Phillips EcoVantage 72w bulb?  @ $4 per, verses .50 each for the regular 100w

Yeah, you go with that.

21 15
Be a true American and insist on only certified 19th century technology!
Posted by: JEA at July 18, 2011 04:05 PM (lP8dE)

Like hi speed choo-choos! With cowcatchers!

22 The solution to global warming is to let the worldÂ’s airlines use high-sulfur jet fuel while flying at cruise altitude.

All intercontinental jetliners have multiple fuel tanks. During take-off, reaching cruise altitude, descent and landing, they would use tanks with low-sulfur jetfuel.

But at cruise altitude, flying in the lower stratosphere at 35,000Â’ or higher, switching to tanks with high-sulfur jetfuel would create denser, wider contrails with sulfate aerosols serving as cloud condensation nuclei, mimicking the effect of cosmic rays. The clouds so created would be long-lasting, and brighter with a high albedo reflecting more sunlight back into space.

Thousands of jetliners flying high over the planet every day would create a cooler earth, and no more global warming. The sulfate aerosols are high enough in the stratosphere not to precipitate and cause acid rain - and high-sulfur jetfuel is less expensive than low-sulfur.

This solution to global warming isnÂ’t just cost-free, it saves money. ItÂ’s perfectly designed to drive human-hating eco-fascists completely nuts.

ItÂ’s a solution too good for rational conservatives to pass up. Even the ones in Congress.

--

COMPLETELY PASTED - HT/ JACK WHEELER

23 Let's see...two ten-year wars on borrowed money. Medicare drug benefit. Unpaid for tax cuts. I think even an impaired mental midget like you should be able to understand that.

24 16, yep. My kids went to the zoo a couple of weeks ago, luckily my 12-year old listens to her old Dad somewhat and ignored the puppet show. What's worse is that even in sainted Disney World they have a place called "Planet Watch" that seems to exists simply to bash humanity. As if building an African Savannah in the swamps of Central Florida wasn't an eco-crime, or something.

25 certified 19th century technology

Windmills!

26 ...which grants itself climate authority...
_________

Isn't that the same as "...which insists upon itself..."?

27 Like high speed rail that, without its own dedicated track, is limited to the speed of freight rail, so it is at least 20 minutes faster.

28 If AGW was a real problem, real estate in the Maldives would be a real bargain.  It isn't.  In fact, it is just the opposite.

The problem I have with this argument (I don't know specific to the Maldives, but I've heard the same thing said about coastal California and Florida) is Federal Flood Insurance.

There is no risk involved in building on the coast, so even if GW is true and your house gets swept away by the rising sea levels, the American Taxpayer will just subsidize your new house anyway.  And it's not like you won't have plenty of warning that the problem is coming.

29 No offense or anything, OpenBlogger (if that's your real name) but the Surely/Shirley thing only works verbally. In print, not so much. And if you really want to know the truth of it, it hasn't worked verbally since, oh, two tears after ""airplane."

30 Let's see...two ten-year wars on borrowed money.

Good lord, the total 10 year cost of Iraq and Afghanistan may be up to slightly over half of Barry's deficit for this year alone.

It's breaking us.

31

"Unpaid-for tax cuts" (whatever they are) are causing global warming?

32 If AGW was a real problem, real estate in the Maldives would be a real bargain.  It isn't.  In fact, it is just the opposite.

IF AGW was a real problem the solution would not be a frakin tax. 

33 "Unpaid-for tax cuts" (whatever they are) are causing global warming?

Shh.  He's rolling.

34 The horse is alive and trotting happily around the corral. I know any number of normally rational, intelligent people who are absolutely certain that humans' mucking around with things is significant, bad, and reversible. I contend that while crap like burning down forests is certainly bad, it does not have the effect the warmalists are convinced of.

I have it on pretty strong authority that the guy who accidentally coined the term "global warming" says he didn't want to imply it was all for the warmer, and that since the trouble is in adding energy to just stir the pot in general, it should have been called "global weirding." This change in terminology is spreading quickly, and it would behoove the forces of sane science to adjust the attack to match.

35 That is what I always hammer the libtards with. My followup is you can always tell what the real problem is by the imposed solution from the politicians.

And it seems like it is always the fact that the public still gets to keep too much of its money.

36 Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 18, 2011 04:10 PM (8y9MW)

You are so naive. Where are you going to get the energy when the fossil fuels run out and all of the nuclear plants melt down? We have to save energy NOW! It's for the children, not you selfish pricks.

How dare you!

37 30 No offense or anything, OpenBlogger (if that's your real name) ...
Posted by: MaxMBJ at July 18, 2011 04:13 PM (deaac)

Your powers of observation far, far exceed those of mere mortals like the rest of us. They're woefully deficient, IOW....

38 Yeah you wingnuts, tax cuts cause global warming!  And prayer in schools causes poverty!  And a balanced budget amendment would just encourage Al Qaeda to strike!  You're idiots, why don't you listen to your betters

39 It's still Unquestionable Doctrine among pretty much everyone to the left of Sarah Palin. Even most mainstream Republicans give it at least lip service. And on the actual left it's a simple fact that anyone who even questions it is either a lunatic or a shill for Big Oil. No exceptions.

40 Re: JEA In the conservative world, we allow people to make their own decisions about what bulbs to buy with their own money. What difference does it make to you if I want to waste my money of 19th century bulbs, or if I want to live exclusively by whale oil lamps? The cognitive dissonance required by liberals to honestly believe they stand for freedom while micro-managing every aspect of peoples' lives is truly incredible.

41 I agree, JEA. Obama should halt his three illegal wars. And kill the Medicare drug benefit. I can't suck as bad at math as you, thinking that you have to "pay for" letting people keep more of their money, but hey - welcome aboard, bitch! Glad to see you're with the Tea Party in cutting all this wasteful spending, like the TARP and the Stimulus, which your boy was all over like a bowl of cocaine- sprinkled arugula.

42 Where are you going to get the energy when the fossil fuels run out and all of the nuclear plants melt down?

That's when we evil fascist conservatives open up the camps.

43 Let's see...two ten-year wars on borrowed money. Medicare drug benefit. Unpaid for tax cuts. I think even an impaired mental midget like you should be able to understand that.

Posted by: JEA

 

 I think that some Dems voted for this crap. Some voted to extend it. Or are you pretending that Dems stood at the gate and tried to stop the sack of Rome in vain? Howz about the extension of the 'unpaid for tax cuts, that Pelosi then declared to be offcially, the "Obama tax cuts"?

 

Stop snorting your new light bulbs. Lower bills, but higher mercury levels may make you green but pathetic.

44 8 Well, high summer is prime time for the Warmists®. I alreeady have a bunch of "friends" wailing about the (absolutely normal) hot temps being proof of AGW, and they see Texas as getting a special dose for being unbeiliver central.

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at July 18, 2011 04:01 PM (YmPwQ)

They really do deify the planet, don't they?

45 Let's see...two ten-year wars on borrowed money. Medicare drug benefit. Unpaid for tax cuts. I think even an impaired mental midget like you should be able to understand that.

Okay, just because the stupid is too strong...

Point 1- Republicans were only in control for 6 years of that (really 5, but who's counting?)- so, if it was so bad, why didn't Democrats de-fund it?  They kept calling for us to come home anyway- they could have put (or not put, as the case may be) our money where their mouths were.

Point 2- Medicare Part D (while I hate it) has actually come in under budget by every analysis I've seen.

Point 3- How retarded are you?  Wait, I'm sorry.  I know people with real Mental Retardation, and they wouldn't fall for that crap, you sub-literate sponge-fungus.  Tax rates between about 18 - 35% don't move tax receipts as a percentage of GDP by any statistically significant amount.  Indeed, lower tax rates tend to boost GDP- which then raises those receipts as an absolute number.  Therefore there is no such thing as an "unpaid for tax cut."  Further, that would assume that money was already the Government's by right- and it isn't.  It's mine because I had to work for it.

46 I know any number of no normally rational, intelligent people liberals who are absolutely certain that humans' mucking around with things is significant insignificant, bad mostly benign and reversible.

FIFY

Starvation, on the other hand, really sucks. I choose technology and knowledge for the win.

47 I just contributed to global warming. Well, not global really, just pretty much around my dog bed. Heh!

48

Let's see...two ten-year wars on borrowed money. Medicare drug benefit. Unpaid for tax cuts. I think even an impaired mental midget like you should be able to understand that.

Yes, let's do see- two ten year wars continued by King Putt. Two more wars started by King Putt, also unpaid and further unauthorized via war powers act.

Medicare drug benefit- the one that King Putt will protect via veto if it is touched in any GOP written budget proposal.

"Unpaid for tax cuts"- first, taxes are not "paid for"- they are our money until the gov't rips the money away from us- ergo, your premise is bogus. Second, Obama fought to extend these tax cuts, and they were passed by a Dem controlled Senate so who again are you blaming here?

You really are bad at this trolling stuff- but then again, you're not bad for an impaired mental midget.

49 sub-literate sponge-fungus

Nice.

50 Whats really a problem for the alarmists is that comsic ray concepct is being investigated by PHYSICISTS, who are building controlled EXPERIMENTS to MEASURE elements of their HYPOTHESIS, versus current alarmist method of making up some exotic statistics to dazzel the press .

51 15
Oh, and BTW, all the new, more efficient bulbs (including incandescents) are already out - so don't be fooled into buying those. Be a true American and insist on only certified 19th century technology!
Posted by: JEA at July 18, 2011 04:05 PM (lP8dE)

Are you one of Thomas Edison's examples of how mental prowess decays exponentially in a family that once produced a genius? You know, one of those scrotal sac descendants who channeled Tom's thinking on what he would think about CFLs vs. incandescents before Congress a week or two ago? How much did your Dimbulb masters pay for you to prostitute yourself for their cause?

52 Posted by: toby928™ at July 18, 2011 04:21 PM (GTbGH)

Not cursing means I have to be more creative with my insults.

53 Posted by: JEA

Pro-choice, except for lightbulbs.

But for offing children, you betcha.

54

You really are bad at this trolling stuff- but then again, you're not bad for an impaired mental midget.

Posted by: Chariots of Toast

 

 Troll minds are fragile, small things. Do we really need the scourage of CFL bulbs making them ever more feeble?

Vote no on the force feeding of new bulbs. You just may save a the troll brain cell.

55 I wonder how our trolls will fare after the SSI checks stop coming?

56 Yes, JEA has undoubtedly been using CFLs for years, thus the mad-as-a-hatter tone to his trolling.

Mercury is a bitch.

57 Do you think advocating that 'Pubs smash CFLs outside of Dim political eventd, neccistating a HAZMAT truck role would constitute political violence or theater?

58 Roll

59 http://climaterealists.com/?id=8073

60 Do you think advocating that 'Pubs smash CFLs outside of Dim political eventd, neccistating a HAZMAT truck role would constitute political violence or theater?

Posted by: Jean

 

To JEA, it would be a rave. Not that he isn't already. Raving that is.

61 Do you think advocating that 'Pubs smash CFLs outside of Dim political eventd, neccistating a HAZMAT truck role would constitute political violence or theater?

Yes.

62 Jean, if Rebubs do it (or worse, Tea Party) it's not only political violence, but terrorism.  OTOH, if it's done by Dems then we're talking 1st Amendment freedom of expression.

63 I think we should use reverse Psycology and have the oil companies increase gas prices with the express purpose of putting into AGW Science......Then all the leftists scum will change their position......porblem solved! 

64 Deep down inside McCain thinks Obama is one of our best Presidents.

65

Re: that CERN story:  I'm ok if the direct doesn't want his people 'intrepreting' the results so long as the details of the results themselves are published.  There are plenty of people out there who are capable of interpreting scientific findings.  The problem with the AGW movement has always been that they have refused to show the details (in violation of the scientific method, I might add).  AGW science reminds me of Dark Ages 'science' where everything was referred to an authority (to hell with actual observation), the Church at first and then later Plato.  I don't like that we're being dragged back into that mode.

66 I've been following the CERN progress closely.  Rumor is, it shows a clear cosmic-ray / cloud vapor link that causes more of an impact on climate than any hypotheses regarding AGW signature.  If so, real, work-a-day scientists will start backing away from CAGW and deemphasizing such work from their resumes.  No-one wants to be the last one trying to abandon a sinking ship.  The CAGW grants won't last long under President Perry anyway.

67 AGW science reminds me of Dark Ages 'science' where everything was referred to an authority (to hell with actual observation), the Church at first and then later Plato.  I don't like that we're being dragged back into that mode.

To be accurate, it was the Church that first dragged Europe, kicking and screaming, into paying attention to the scientific method and evidence-based inquiry.  I'm not a huge fan of the Catholic Church, but I'm not going to suggest they were as obdurate about such things as modern thought would have you believe.

68

I particularly liked Ann Coulter's remark from a few years ago:

"Liberals believe that you can change the temperature of the ocean by flipping a light switch."

And who can forget the silly competition between Reynolds and Kos as to how many readers would commit to changing to CFL's?

Sure, I have CFL's in my house, and they last somewhat longer than regular incandescents, but so what?  The electrical savings are really about nil.

The effect on the baseload power consumption in this country with respect to CFL usage is about nil.  Because people are math and engineering illiterate and impaired. The effect on the required power output to maintain the AC current in high tension transmission lines cannot be affected by changing light bulbs from incandescent to CFL's.  Not possible.

Shut down steel mills and aluminum smelters - sure. It's Obamanomics.

The global warming hysteria is not dead. I get daily e-mails (in technical journals) about

1) Going "green"; green technology, windmills,  yada, yada, yada.

2) CO2 sequestration - hugest waste of money imaginable

3) Global warming updates - are the Maldives under water yet?

This will never die, because there are too many rice bowls to be filled.

69 > 30 No offense or anything, OpenBlogger (if that's your real name) but the Surely/Shirley thing only works verbally. In print, not so much. ... Posted by: MaxMBJ That makes it funnier!

70 > 35 ... I have it on pretty strong authority that the guy who accidentally coined the term "global warming" ... it should have been called "global weirding." This change in terminology is spreading quickly, and it would behoove the forces of sane science to adjust the attack to match. Posted by: Peregrine John They don't get to choose the vocabulary. That's why I prefer "Global Warming" to "Climate Change". They started it, they're stuck with it. It's like abortion or choice. revenue or taxes. Words Matter.

71 The only people that actually believe in AGW are the ones that still think oil came from dead dinos.  The rest that are pushing AGW are the ones that wish to benefit from grants and other money.  It is a sham and if we fall for it we deserve to go the way of the dino.

72 > 41 Re: JEA In the conservative world, we allow people to make their own decisions about what bulbs to buy with their own money. ... Posted by: Grimaldi sidebar July 9th. "We are taking away a choice that continues to let people waste their own money." - Energy Secretary Chu
It takes a nobel prize winner to come up with lines like that [ArthurK]

73 It's like abortion or choice. revenue or taxes.
Words Matter.

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at July 18, 2011 05:09 PM (WRsKZ)

"When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean － neither more nor less."

 "The question is," said Alice, "whether you can make words mean so many different things."

 "The question is," said Humpty Dumpty, "which is to be the master － that's all."

74 Oh, yeah, my thirty-person office has a "green" committee. Their commitment is to meet once a month with doughnuts and make stupid rules that the rest of us are stuck with. Here's the best part: The "green" lights in the conference room have to be turned on ten minutes before the meeting starts so that they're all actually functioning by meeting time. LOL Asshats.

75

Therefore even though I consider this a dead horse, I still beat it.

Nihilists spent 100 years undermining the Russian Empire, which is longer than the Soviet replacement lasted.  And, even after several well-publicized failures of socialism around the globe in the past 30 years, they still preach it as the solution today.  They never give up.

76 The problem with the AGW movement has always been that they have refused to show the details (in violation of the scientific method, I might add).

I believe it was James Hansen who refused to show his results because other scientists would only try to poke holes in them.  Torquemada would have been embarrassed by such an asinine statement.  He should never be referred to as a scientist again. 

77 67
No-one wants to be the last one trying to abandon a sinking ship.  The CAGW grants won't last long under President Perry anyway.
Posted by: thCork at July 18, 2011 04:57 PM (ia9oR)

If there is any justice in this world, the last person manning the pumps on the sinking ship of AGW will be Michael Mann.

78 Posted by: No Whining at July 18, 2011 05:22 PM (UzjcV)

I vote for Al Gore.

79 Whenever I get into a discussion with an environazi, I ask them what percentage of the population they believe will throw their mercury laden curly bulbs in the trash. Then I say," umm, is mercury good for the environment? I wonder how much of it ends up in the ground water." Great fun.

80 Posted by: Papa Editor at July 18, 2011 05:24 PM (Zs83Q)

I vaguely remember some interviewer asking if McCain thought Obama would make a good President and McCain said, "yes."

Assuming that's not just some hallucination, I really want to ask the Senator, "What's wrong with, 'No, I believe he wants to drag this country too far to the left and would further damage our economy and standing in the world?'"

81 Vested interests. That says it all. Do you recall the crop circles in England. Space monkeys made them. Noted and learned professors from prestigious English universities studied the phenonium, published papers, then wrote books, collected money, grants, then after a few years of hysteria, two locals cane forward and demonstrated how they made the circles. Did the learned men accept  their story. Hell no. They knew better, they published more papers and wrote more books on the origin of the crop circle phenonium. See if you call it a phenonium, it sounds scientific, thereby allowing the professors to explain in high sounding rhetoric just how complex the something is. Well beyond the common sense of the average local yocal.

82 I can't wait for a relatively minor quake in LA/Hollywood after "swirly" bulbs are fully in place.  The entire city will need to be evacuated and quarantined due to mercury contamination, giving Leftists one less place to congregate. That's if they follow their own laws, which is a big "if".

83 " get daily e-mails (in technical journals) about 1) Going "green"; green technology, windmills, yada, yada, yada." Now that Chappaquiddick Ted is dead, I wonder if they will build a windfarm off Hyannis Port. Or is the neighborhood of rich, liberal, environazis still off limits to green energy?

84 Posted by: nerdygirl at July 18, 2011 05:27 PM (eMPxE)
I would think that deliberately breaking a dozen or so CFLs in a Congressional office would be termed a terrorist act, yet I am to be required to use them in my home, secure in the knowledge that these Chinese produced mercury laden bulbs will be contaminating US landfills and ground water for decades, if not centuries. 

Way to go Congrefs!  The Founding Fathers would be so proud of you.

85

I'll never forgive him for his never ending campaigning for Barry in 2008.  He continually insisted upon people to vote for the bad guy.  Nice work, John.

Posted by: Papa Editor at July 18, 2011 05:24 PM (Zs83Q)

And the SOB has the freakin nerve to attack Bachmann over the budget battle.

86 Johnny,  that documentary is called "The Cloud Mystery" for those who want to search for it on YouTube.  Also,  Svenmark wrote a book called "The Chilling Stars" which explains the theory in detail.

I have to say,  given the numbers,  historical, astronomical, and geological evidence he puts out,  I can't think of another theory which makes sense.

87 I can't wait for a relatively minor quake in LA/Hollywood after "swirly" bulbs are fully in place.

That's an excellent point. One of the biggest environmental problems after 9/11 was all the mercury from the fluorescent lights. 

88 Said this numerous times, but it's still relevant.  It really doesn't matter if the earth is warming or cooling, both phenomena have occurred numerous times through the planet's history.

  If a "solution" must be proposed, then try this--you adapt to the particular, thus ensuring, or vastly increasing, chances of survival.

 Not a lot else to be said.

89 , and they see Texas as getting a special dose for being unbeiliver central.

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at July 18, 2011 04:01 PM (YmPwQ)

I went through basic training in San Antonio from July-Sept 1980. IIRC, the daily temps were about 100 with the exception of two weekends. Tropical storms rolled through on both of those. I was told that was typical Texas weather for that time of year.

90 Posted by: Vic at July 18, 2011 05:34 PM (M9Ie6)

The four whoresmen of the apocalypse: Juan McCain, Lindsay Gramnesty, Mush McConnell, Olwimpia Snowe

91

," umm, is mercury good for the environment? I wonder how much of it ends up in the ground water."

 

^^^^^THIS^^^^^

92 Posted by: Bill R. at July 18, 2011 05:40 PM (ekWve)

1980 is remembered in DFW as one of the worst summers in living memory.  You got it light in San Antonio.  Up in North Central Texas, IIRC, we were hitting 105+ in the shade.

93 I've talked to a couple of warmists about the heat and drought here in OK this year.  They say it's AGW.  I tell them to go to the weather archives and see that the statistics show that we have summers like this about once in about every thirty years, give or take a few years.  It's like clockwork (and weather patterns) that have been going on since way before we started keeping records.

94

91, one of my libtard Facebook acquaintences ( I keep a few around to toy with, as well as to refresh my memory on why I'm not a libtard) posted a story about the current Texas drought, heat wave and wildfires, with the comment "Serves 'em right!".

 

As I said, I keep a few around to toy with, they are ever so much more inane than the house trolls around here.....

95  If a "solution" must be proposed, then try this--you adapt to the particular, thus ensuring, or vastly increasing, chances of survival.

 Not a lot else to be said.

Posted by: irongrampa at July 18, 2011 05:40 PM (ud5dN)

 

It's the arrogance of the AGW crowd that consistantly amazes me.  How dare humans think that they can control what God has put into motion. 

96

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 18, 2011 05:42 PM (8y9MW)

It sure didn't feel light at the time. I came from Michigan and 100 was pretty much unheard of up here. Not to mention getting bitched at by the TI's all the time. The only good thing was that we didn't have to do much marching because of the temps which made no sense because we still walked everywhere we went.

97 If a "solution" must be proposed, then try this--you adapt to the particular, thus ensuring, or vastly increasing, chances of survival.

Entirely sensible, but no room for graft so it won't be adopted by politicians or scientists.

98 "He's talking about the idea the Chinese sulphate emissions have counteracted expected Global Warming."

But that just makes sense. And this is why Chinese coal emissions from their unfiltered smoke stacks are OK while we clamp down on American fossil fuels. In fact America needs to further subsidize Chinese Coal. Plus, we should encourage child labor for mining in Asia because their little lungs produce less CO2. It's science.

99

Don't just beat this horse.  Mock it mercilessly for being the stupid horse that it was.  And mock those who rode their communist agenda in on it.  Remind them that it's so damn stupid only an intellectual could believe it.

Don't be afraid.  Real Math and Real Science Rule.  

100 JEA: "Oh, and BTW, all the new, more efficient bulbs (including incandescents) are already out - so don't be fooled into buying those."

Well they're pretty damned efficient at shutting down business for half an hour so the Environmental Hazards Team can air out and clean the room without getting sued when the fusilli breaks. How's that for worker productivity? How much more in costs is it for a room full of workers to be forced inconveniently on break compared to the cost of energy presumably saved from a "cost-efficient" bulb? You have read the hazmat sheets for using those bulbs and for mercury, right? Technically, it's almost like handling a low level radiation spill.

101 Mandatory CFLs for all Murfreesboro TN proposed mosques.

102 15Congratulations to House Republicans for passing the Antique Bulb Amendment.

Enjoy your new higher electric bills.

Oh, and BTW, all the new, more efficient bulbs (including incandescents) are already out - so don't be fooled into buying those. Be a true American and insist on only certified 19th century technology!

Posted by: JEA at July 18, 2011 04:05 PM (lP8dE)

Thanks JEA for your concern about the lighting I choose to use in my house.  By that I mean you can go hang.

Congratulations to the House Republicans for respecting the rights of the people to live their lives how they want.   

103 30 No offense or anything, OpenBlogger (if that's your real name) but the Surely/Shirley thing only works verbally. In print, not so much. And if you really want to know the truth of it, it hasn't worked verbally since, oh, two tears after ""airplane." Posted by: MaxMBJ at July 18, 2011 04:13 PM (deaac) --------------------------------------------------------------- roger Roger

104 24Let's see...two ten-year wars on borrowed money. Medicare drug benefit. Unpaid for tax cuts. I think even an impaired mental midget like you should be able to understand that.

Posted by: JEA at July 18, 2011 04:11 PM (lP8dE)

Though you may have a point about the wars on borrowed money, I see you left out the unfunded and unconstitutional wars out of your war equation. Could it be that you are selective about who's spending the money on wars? JEA's Credibility: Zero.

If it were up to me I would have conducted the war on a much more cost effective basis but you wouldn't like that either.  So your solution is weakness and subservience.  The second choice that is politically correct is the nation building crap and pseudo-COIN with idiotic ROEs that cost so much in American lives and treasure.

Furthermore, the Tax Cuts aren't things that are paid for, it's the things the government decides to buy that have to be paid for. Fool. 

The problem is the spending, not the taxing. 

But you're one those who believe that it's all the government's money, but they let us keep some. So the relation between you and the government isn't one of a citizen, it's one of a slave. You are a very weak person.     

105

"two ten-year wars on borrowed money. "

Why yes, I think your Messiah has done that.  And added 6 more to the mix.  Wait.  The DimTards great accomplishment - Pay Go.  Never used once.

And shit, Obama has been handicapped by those evil BusHitler tax cuts.  Same as Oblunder, but Bush's biggest deficit was $400 billion.  Odipshit's - $1.6 trillion.

But, but, but.  Sorry that $1.1 trillion Porkulus isn't included in that last figure.  Nor the vast majority of TARRP/Obama saving and rewarding his largest contributors.  Sorry, Bush had no idea how corrupted Obamaoist could make it.

106

To SEE the effect, check out "Cloud Chamber."

These gizmos were early methods to actually SEE the tracks of ionizing radiation (alpha particles, beta, yes, even cosmic rays) inside a little jar., with the NAKED EYE.

They worked by the particle MAKING CLOUDS (ok, fog as tiny contrails) inside the jar's atmosphere.

Yes, let's stiffle historical nuclear physics, by all means, in service of the global climate change mission.

107 > To SEE the effect, check out "Cloud Chamber." These gizmos were early methods to actually SEE the tracks of ionizing radiation (alpha particles, beta, yes, even cosmic rays) inside a little jar., with the NAKED EYE. They worked by the particle MAKING CLOUDS (ok, fog as tiny contrails) inside the jar's atmosphere. ... Posted by: Whitehall Until it was removed during the recent remodeling, they had one of those bad boys, working and on display, at the Griffith Observatory here in LA. They didn't even have to put a radiation source next to it - just let the ambient cosmic rays do all the work. Naked eye evidence of sub-atomic particles. Cooooooooooool.

108 Google "cloud chamber video" for the next best thing.

109 #23, yep.  So all that time we were worried about acid rain was time ill-spent.  Just more proof that AGW does not hold up scientifically or logically.  It is a scam peddled by power-crazed snake oil salesmen like AlGore.

110 The unusual "gagging order" could have been issued because of the profound implications the results indicated regarding the coming 2012 apocalypse at the end of the Mayan Fourth World. Or, it could be that the experiment invites a politically unacceptable hypothesis on climate.

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112 Anonymous Drivel - you just outlined a splendid plan: have thousands of people across the country "accidentally" drop a CFL bulb in every post office, dmv, irs branch, whatever govt office you most hate at the time.  Do it all at once = govt shutdown, bitches!!!  I'm already envisioning a crappy movie with Nicholas Cage as the bad guy holding a bulb screaming "don't make me use this!"

whatev...

113 @ 115...back in the pen, piggy....

114

Chinese Sulfate Emission:

Back in the 1970's The soot from coal electric plants was the Environmental pollution problem of the day.  The companies built taller smoke stacks and installed scrubbers to control the soot. This cleaned out the basic components for the exhaust from power plants leaving the sulfer still there.  Now the sulfer was the main compontent in the Next Environmental Issue "Acid Rain".  This made sulfer and other molecules containing it bad guys.

Mercury from coal is bad but in the new lightbulbs just forget about it. 

Today we have Low Sulfer Diesel Fuel to curb pollution issues so that the exhaust will meet Federal regulation for Diesel engines.  Sulfer in the fuel acted as a lubricant for the fuel pump and fuel injectors which will now go bad.

Environmentalist dont look at what the Unintended Consequences are of the issue they are against.  They see the hear and now.  To fix the unintended consequences requires more government regulation.  All of which cost you and me more money.

 

Chewman