1
They're all gonna soon admit it's not science.

It's for the children.

2 What about the positive kickback mechanism in D.C.?

3 Let me speculate the reply from the AGW ninnies..."but at least we CARE about the oith 'n stuff!...denier!!"

4 I've said all along that basing a complex thing like climate change on one fucking compound was the dumbest goddamn thing I'd ever heard and would attract simpleton assholes like ManBearPig.

5 ...now AGW believers, yeah, they're pretty much all douchebags...

^{/Yes, I carried over from the last thread, what of it}

6 Well, empirical science is overrated. We prefer models because they're nice and clean and powerful. And by "powerful" I mean we can hide the code and not let you see our assumptions. You peons.

7

Oh, thank goodness, a new thread. On the same subject, that guy who's running for prez, Jon Huntsman believes in global warming "because 90% of scientists do." Let's cross him off the list (not that he was on it because I forgot his name).

8 In science, empirical evidence always trumps theory,

HERETIC!

9

At least Warmists can eat pork.

10

Way OT, but this is from the AP about the UBL raid.

Back at the White House Situation Room, word was relayed that bin Laden had been found, signaled by the code word “Geronimo.” That was not bin Laden’s code name, but rather a representation of the letter “G.” Each step of the mission was labeled alphabetically, and “Geronimo” meant that the raiders had reached step “G,” the killing or capture of bin Laden, two officials said.

I call BS.  AP again covering for their marxist in the WH.  Unless there has been a recent change, "Golf" is used to represent "G", not Geronimo.

11 making fools out of our politicians



This can't be stated enough.

12 As we have said many many times, there is no science. Science means a study and theory positied using scientific method. They have never even completed the first step of SM because they haven't even truly collected data and made a valid observation.

The entire scheme is a fraud and anyone pushing it belongs in jail. On the political stage a supporter of the AGW scam and crap and tax is dead. This is a single issue downer for me because it means you are one of three things as a politician

1. A communist using this to push your agenda
2. A crook getting some kind of money out of it
3. Dumber than a creosote post and don't deserve to occupy space in this universe.

This is why I have no support for T-Paw even though he has tried to walk it back.

13 But then what about the carbon dioxide on Venus?? Science-hating wingnuts!!!!

14 I have noticed that no matter how many times you inform an AGWtard that their stated intentions matter to nobody except themselves, it just does not register with them.  Liberalism truly is a mental disorder.

15 If you really feel like punching a hippie - read Pat Moore's  Confessions of a Greenpeace Founder. 

16
"This issue is tearing society apart, making fools out of our politicians."

It is an attempt to ruin our Western civilization. But politicians, corporatists, community organizers, and eco-activists are planning to make a big score off this hoax.

17

Hey screw you Vic, even I haven't fallen for this AGW BS

18 Jon Huntsman (stolen from HA):

Huntsman says he opposes cap-and-trade proposals because “this isn’t the moment,” but he buys the climate change argument because “90% of the scientists” say it’s happening

19 And since current CO2 levels are about 400 parts per million, obviously that is an absurd hypothetical.

If you accept the global warming "greenhouse gas" analogy, then if the amount of CO2 doubled, it would be like taking a greenhouse made of 10,000 panels and smashing 9992 of them and looking at all the warming that would result.

And nobody's talking about the doubling of CO2.

But, let's face it, all "science" is anymore is a hypothesis that doesn't involve the supernatural.  The "scientific method" to most people is to ask somebody with a Ph.D. in something that sounds sciency.

20 Well, for myself I was gratified when the global warming crowd arrived. Finally someone had come along to make me look sane.

21 I thought global warming funds was code word for 'taking money from hard working taxpayers and putting into Dem. re-election campaigns'.  It's not?!

22 @15:  I always feel like punching a hippie...

23 You are all banned!!!

24 Hey screw you Vic, even I haven't fallen for this AGW BS

Hey, I did say dumber than.....

25
consensus = proof

90% of Muslims have a favorable view of Hamas, I'd imagine.

26 Vic - I think TPaw could run with this, if he had more charisma then a cardboard box.  He could frame it as: "I was lied to, you were lied to ... and I'm mad about it.  I'm so mad about it I'm going to ensure the SEC and IRS go after all of those a--holes for stock manipulation."

27 AGW has never been about the climate.  It's always been about money and power....period. 

28 Trust me, there is lots of negative feedback.  Certainly not fully understood but there would be very little or no liquid H₂O on the planet without it.  A system without negative feedback rapidly goes to the limits.

29 Give these warming guys a break. People like James Hansen are kindred spirits. Besides, everyone knows real science addresses questions like how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.

30 Dude.  My lib brother insists that it has NEVER been called global warming, it has always been called climate change (since it is now May and 40 degrees in OH today) !!1!!!!!!!

31
Global Warming is a 'widely held belief,' as Philip J. Fry would say.

32

making fools out of our politicians

I think the AGW supporters among the pols were already fools, AGW just helps to expose their respective individual levels of foolishness to the public. 

greater support of AGW=greater level of foolishness

33 They're all gonna soon admit it's not science. It's for the children. It's for the sciencey children of scientific science!

34

I can't help but wonder if some of those who cling to AGW aren't products of our society that blanches at the thought of correctng a child's schoolwork with a red pen for fear of embarrassing the little dears.

I'm sure plenty of AGW prophets are counting the profits but we are a society that fears admissions of being wrong. If you're never wrong then there is never a reason to move forward in your thinking.

Perhaps Christianity, with its penchant for confession and penance, really is the best vehicle for advancing science.

35 Wow...I've only been saying THAT for a few years.

If the industrial revolution was the cause of the warming of the earth, how come so many of the heat records were set back in the 1920's and 30's?

Fucking scientists aren't the smartest guy in the room either.  They're just bought and paid for like the politicians.

36 30 Dude.  My lib brother insists that it has NEVER been called global warming, it has always been called climate change (since it is now May and 40 degrees in OH today) !!1!!!!!!!

Great think about being a liberal - history always begins this morning. 

/How old is he?  I remember in HS that it was called "global warming", and I"m not that old.   

37

Well, you gotta have faith-a-faith-a.faith.

You've gotta have faith.

38 He could frame it as: "I was lied to, you were lied to ... and I'm mad about it.

I don't buy that argument. All of us were lied to. Most of us investigated the theory and found it severely lacking even before the break came on the fraudulent stuff.

A politician willing to vote on that crap and tax bill which was truly bad bad bad and which would destroy this country without investigating the validity of the problem doesn't deserve to be in office, much less President.

Even if he didn't have the time he did have a shit pot of staffers which we don't have.

39 There's no global warming? I went down on Nancy for nothing?

40 I've gotten to the point of being completely obnoxious to people that espouse any belief in AGW.

Laugh right at them.

41 Jon Huntsman (stolen from HA):

Huntsman says he opposes cap-and-trade proposals because “this isn’t the moment,” but he buys the climate change argument because “90% of the scientists” say it’s happening

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 17, 2011 04:28 PM (UOM4

99 percent of Americans don't think he's suited for being President.

42 1977-The Climate is cooling...there is no way the US can sustain a population of 280 million by 2040!!

Wait...what...

43

...oh, wait.  I had the Sports Machine. 

Should have been Geroges Michaels!

44
I call BS.  AP again covering for their marxist in the WH.  Unless there has been a recent change, "Golf" is used to represent "G", not Geronimo.





Considering JugEars' favorite pastime, there's no way in HELL that AP was gonna use the proper military phonetic alphabet.

45 Dude.  My lib brother insists that it has NEVER been called global warming, it has always been called climate change (since it is now May and 40 degrees in OH today) !!1!!!!!!!

Great think about being a liberal - history always begins this morning. 

/How old is he?  I remember in HS that it was called "global warming", and I"m not that old.   

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at May 17, 2011 04:34 PM (c0A3e)

HS? It was like two years ago they changed it.

46 3 Let me speculate the reply from the AGW ninnies..."but at least we CARE about the oith 'n stuff!...denier!!"

Posted by: model_1066 at May 17, 2011 04:24 PM (VnECg)

The AGW ninnies are 19th century New York newsies? 

Carryin' the banner!

(Yes, that is a Newsies reference. Should I denounce myself?)

47 This is why I have no support for T-Paw even though he has tried to walk it back.

Posted by: Vic at May 17, 2011 04:27 PM (M9Ie6)

If he's truly converted, then he'll be the most passionate spokesman we have.

It doesn't say a lot about his judgement, but even Reagan signed a bad abortion law in CA.

And, frankly, I want a GOP candidate who will bend to the protestations of the right and recognizes the error of his ways.

48 26 Vic - I think TPaw could run with this, if he had more charisma then a cardboard box.  He could frame it as: "I was lied to, you were lied to ... and I'm mad about it.  I'm so mad about it I'm going to ensure the SEC and IRS go after all of those a--holes for stock manipulation."
  He played on our fears!!!

49 Dude.  My lib brother insists that it has NEVER been called global warming, it has always been called climate change (since it is now May and 40 degrees in OH today) !!1!!!!!!!

Posted by: momma at May 17, 2011 04:32 PM (penCf)

We have always been at war with East Asia....

50 But then what about the carbon dioxide on Venus??

Uh, my bad.

51 This shit is funny because the global warmists are pissed that teachers must now teach both sides of the argument.  Check out what one stupid parent has to say:

Los Al board passes global warming rule

LOS ALAMITOS - The city's school board is requiring the teacher of an advanced-placement science class to present "multiple perspectives" including the view that global warming is not being caused by man, a newspaper reported Sunday.

The Los Alamitos Unified School Board voted 4-0 to require that science teachers present "a balance of viewpoints" on controversial items. A school board member, Jeffrey Barke, told the Orange County Register that the policy is based on his concerns that "global warming dogma" is being taught in local schools.

"There are two clearly divergent opinions on global warming," Barke told the newspaper. "There are those who believe that global warming is a fact, created by man's impact on the environmental and the consequences will be devastating."

Some parents in the district have criticized what they say is a political intrusion into a classroom.

"There is a consensus in the field that we have global warming happening," said parent J.M. Ivler, who told the newspaper he has a daughter in the district.

"This is not in dispute in the scientific community, it is in dispute in the political community," he was quoted as saying. "This is a science class. Teach science."

52 The earth is warming, and we're going to get our Muslim scientist overlords on it.

53 I'll be damned.

54 Plant more fucking trees.  The CO₂ levels will drop.  I'm quite sure of it.

55 May 17 is Â… Pack Rat Day.
May 17 is National Cherry Cobbler Day.
May 17 is Norwegian Constitution Day.

56
Gotta love a guy like Huntsman. He's a typical Washington insider.

He just admitted he's a clown. An ass clown.

Huntsman is the type of politician who never passed up what the lobbyists were selling.

57

So how does this end exactly?

I know we are all expecting some "big reveal" where the liars and assholes come clean and are shamed, but will that happen?

It seems unlikely. A lot of people who pushed the Global cooling sh*t are the exact same people. What happened to them then? nothing.

 

It will just be downplayed and pushed under the rug until the next environmental "scare" comes down the pike.

I've been here nearly three decades and I've already seen several. The people who promulgate this crap are never considered frauds.

Look at Paul Erhlich and his ilk. They say the sky is falling for one reason and then when it doesn't claim it is falling for another reason.

58 Heh, we had to watch "An Inconvenient Truth" in my biology class yesterday.

59 The world is going to end saturday.Global warming is the least of your worries

60 But, but , but Venus is loaded with CO2 and it is really hot....and, and, and....The Polar bears!!!!

61 The late, great Michael Crichton: LetÂ’s be clear: the work of science has nothing whatever to do with consensus. Consensus is the business of politics. Science, on the contrary, requires only one investigator who happens to be right, which means that he or she has results that are verifiable by reference to the real world. In science, consensus is irrelevant. What is relevant is reproducible results. The greatest scientists in history are great precisely because they broke with the consensus. National Press Club Washington, DC January 25, 2005

62

Dude. My lib brother insists that it has NEVER been called global warming, it has always been called climate change

Time to google the historic reviews of Al Gore's 'An Inconvenient Truth' and show your Bro that the interwebs never forget inconvenient truths.

63 How old is he?  I remember in HS that it was called "global warming", and I"m not that old.   
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at May 17, 2011 04:34 PM (c0A3e)


31.  He just changes the facts to make them lies, calls them facts and the spews them.

64 Ain't this a great country.  You can be consistently wrong, write books with predictions that never come true and wind up in the White House as the "Science Czar!"

It's good to be me. 

65

Keep in mind, y'all, if Dear Leader's reign of terror is not stopped (right now it is a little quieter as he is in campaign mode), Cap and Trade will be an issue he will pass. With $4 gasoline he is tilting a bit to the center, pretending to open oil fields, etc.

Please do notice that this has not been a hot media topic lately, as the MSM continues to protect Barky from hot topics (Hot Pockets, however, is the code name for his iReggie). Where is Al Boreth? I thought he'd be yelping about the tornadoes and flooding in the South as well as earthquakes and cicadas being the cause of climate change.

66

Time to google the historic reviews of Al Gore's 'An Inconvenient Truth' and show your Bro that the interwebs never forget inconvenient truths.

Posted by: Speller at May 17, 2011 04:40 PM (J74Py)

Did that.  He said, 'Well, I've always called it climate change!'

67
"This is a science class. Teach science."

Hear! Hear!
If only this a-hole understood scientific methods.

68 Hopefully Huntsman's statement will do to him what Gingrich's asshattery accomplished. 

Newt
The Donald
Huckster
Huntsman

69 The "Precautionary Principle" is tailor made for liberals. 

70

With words like hunch and faith, you're giving them more credit than I do. I prefer line and scheme.

It's kind of like telling the chick in your sociology class that sleeping with you will help to bring an end to society's oppressive patriarchy. If she goes along with it, who cares if she really believes it?

71 How is it that Soothsayer is the first commenter on 87% of AoS threads? Is he growing out of Ace's belly like fucking Kuato? Ace hits "Post" and Soothkuato types in a comment lickety-split? I'm just asking questions.

72
31.  He just changes the facts to make them lies, calls them facts and the spews them.

Posted by: momma at May 17, 2011 04:40 PM (penCf)

Aren't lib siblings fun?  And "special."

73

Did that.  He said, 'Well, I've always called it climate change!'

Posted by: momma at May 17, 2011 04:41 PM (penCf)

Then he is just full of shit and a lost cause.  Don't waste your breath anymore...

74

....and, and, and....The Polar bears!!!!

Polar bears must never cry.

75 Heh, we had to watch "An Inconvenient Truth" in my biology class yesterday.

Posted by: ChuckOH at May 17, 2011 04:39 PM (zhC9L)

My condolences. Record cold temps and precip here in Ohio for the season. Did the Prof address that?

76 The Piltdown Men in my area have it out for me.  They were showing Gore's movie in my kids school - I got them to stop.  I think they pulled diocese wide.  I failed, however to get them to replace it with a couple of Penn&Teller episodes on recycling and bottle water.

77 "Besides, everyone knows real science addresses questions like how many angels can dance on the head of a pin." Stephen Hawking seems to think that's the job of "science". I do want to see what test he used to reach the conclusion that heaven is "a fairy story...". You know so it can be repeated and falsified.

78 Fucking scientists aren't the smartest guy in the room either.  They're just bought and paid for like the politicians.

Posted by: © Sponge at May 17, 2011 04:34 PM (UK9cE)

 

Same thing can be said about the second-hand smoke splooge (or the whole anti-tobacco meme, for that matter).  It's all about money and power.  Politicians and their lackeys prey on the public educated ignorance of so many people.  I wouldn't care if those sheeple paid the price they're paying for their stupidity, but they've sucked everyone else into the malestrom also.  

79

Did that.  He said, 'Well, I've always called it climate change!'

Posted by: momma at May 17, 2011 04:41 PM (penCf)

Well then, just smack him. He's your younger brother; you have the right and the responsibility to do everything in your power to snap him out of his delusion.

Corporal punishment is a marvelous way of focusing people's attention on what is important!

80
I don't know what a Kuato is, but if I find out it's something bad...

81

AGW skeptic and noted physicist Freeman Dyson has worked out the math--

Never trust the man who designed a thousand dollar vacuum cleaner!!11!!

 

 

82 But, but , but Venus is loaded with CO2 and it is really hot....and, and, and....The Polar bears!!!!

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at May 17, 2011 04:40 PM (pdRb1)

That's funny.  I think that was the excuse as to why the surface of Mars was so hot.  When Al-gore was asked about it he responded, "because the entire atmosphere is made up of carbon dioxide."

Nothing like fitting the narrative. 

83 Is he growing out of Ace's belly like fucking Kuato? Ace hits "Post" and Soothkuato types in a comment lickety-split? I'm just asking questions. Come to think of it, has anyone ever seen Ace and Allahpundit in the same room? It's a legitimate question. It could even be a hotel room.

84

There is no difference between Climate Change dogma

and dog manure!

85 We once had a 4 hour argument over defunding planned parenthood.  He finally realized he lost the argument, called me a 'fucking Bible thumping, ignorant, bitch' and hung up.

I called him right back and said: 'My Faith in God compels me to immediately forgive you for lying and name calling.  May you find comfort in my forgiveness.'

I still laugh about it. 

86

I'm just asking questions.

 

Try this one : What's a Soothsayer?

87 What ever happened to chloroflorocarbons being behind everything? Since we've blown past ozone depletion & global warming in favor of climate change, does it mean we can have Aqua Net back? Jersey Girls just haven't been the same since hairspray was banned.

88 @77 In Ohio as well. If it weren't a boring lecture course I'd be willing to start an argument, but it's just easier to watch a movie, answer questions on a sheet and get an A.

89 He just changes the facts to make them lies, calls them facts and the spews them.

Posted by: momma at May 17, 2011 04:40 PM (penCf)

Have you called him a fucking idiot to his face?

At some point, the sharp knife of reality needs to slit his wrists.......

90
Come to think of it, has anyone ever seen Ace and Allahpundit in the same room?

Yes. Karol, Ace, and Allahpundit went to the movies together a few years ago.

91 Stephen Hawking seems to think that's the job of "science". I do want to see what test he used to reach the conclusion that heaven is "a fairy story...". You know so it can be repeated and falsified. As a mere layman who follows astrophysics, I understand Hawking is pretty brilliant. However, I'm beginning to wonder if he isn't rather overrated. I wonder if people working in the fields of cosmology and related endeavors often discuss whether his achievements are or are not rather inflated. Pun intended.

92 momma, we should set him up with my sister.  Match made in heaven ......??

93 Try this one : What's a Soothsayer? I dunno, but I'll tell you how it feels on my penis. BRB

94 Penn&Teller episodes on recycling and bottle water.

Posted by: Jean at May 17, 2011 04:43 PM (WkuV6)

Penn & Teller's recycling Bullshit show is a classic.  People are stupid...

95 Karol, Ace, and Allahpundit went to the movies together a few years ago. I hope it was an adult theater. Because of Teh Lifestyle.

96 AGW is to Science what Bigfoot is to Anthropology.

97 Let's look at the energy consumption and natural resources consumption of millionaire liberals like Al Gore, any damn Kennedy, all the blubbering global warming enthusiasts in the entertainment industry, rock stars, actors, directors. We'll compare their energy and natural resources consumption with the national average. Then we'll tell them to shut the fuck up.

98 This shit is getting extremely tiresome. Based on available evidence, the Earth has been warming and cooling on a regular basis for a hella long time. To posit that a single species can effect either NATURAL phenomonon shows breathtaking arrogance.

  As I see it, there are 3 possible situations in play.

 1.  The Earth is warming

  2. The Earth is cooling

  3. The Earth is in a period of stasis.

   Given any of these, the only practical solution, if you must have one, is to adapt to the particular, thus ensuring, or at least maximizing your chances of survival.

   The rest is scam and spin.

99 I don't know what a Kuato is, but if I find out it's something bad...

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 17, 2011 04:45 PM (gM4zK)

Go watch Total Recall......in honor of the philandering Ahnold, and you'll understand.

100 Pigs do fly ... over at Psychology Today ...
If Barack Obama Is Christian, Michael Jackson Was White

101

99...Ben Afleck to acting.

 

102 "As a mere layman who follows astrophysics, I understand Hawking is pretty brilliant." And see, thats the crux. His supposed brilliance lets him get away with making absolutest statements on metaphysical matters which are taken to be true/fact by those given to advance a secularist world view - just cause they were uttered by a "genius". I mean who could dare gainsay him? he's smarter than the rest of us.

103 I always feel like punching a hippie...

Then I just watch this video and just feel sorry for them that they need to be committed for their own safety.

104 As a mere layman who follows astrophysics, I understand Hawking is pretty brilliant. However, I'm beginning to wonder if he isn't rather overrated. I wonder if people working in the fields of cosmology and related endeavors often discuss whether his achievements are or are not rather inflated. Pun intended.

Posted by: George Orwell at May 17, 2011 04:48 PM (ODJgp)

Rule #1: There's no reason to credit a brilliant scientist's insights on any subject outside his field.

Rule #2: In his field, Max Plank's Principle applies: "To get a new theory to gain acceptance, you have to wait for the old scientists to die."   Hawking is no longer young, so I would take even his Physics pronouncements with a grain of salt.

105 Maybe the worst result of all this, when the fraud is completely and publically discredited, will be the loss of confidence in science itself.

106 As a mere layman who follows astrophysics, I understand Hawking is pretty brilliant. However, I'm beginning to wonder if he isn't rather overrated. Yeah. Let's see RoboGimp theorize a way out of that fucking chair. Then I'll be impressed.

107 In Ohio as well. If it weren't a boring lecture course I'd be willing to start an argument, but it's just easier to watch a movie, answer questions on a sheet and get an A.

Posted by: ChuckOH at May 17, 2011 04:47 PM (zhC9L)

I hear that. Don't waste anymore time than you need to.

108

Add to that the recent musings of Alan Carlin, the EPA physics PhD who told the EPA that they were wearing no clothes in regard to AGW.

From a policy perspective, the paperÂ’s conclusions include the following:
· The economic benefits of reducing CO2 emissions may be about two orders of magnitude less than those estimated by most economists because the climate sensitivity factor is much lower than assumed by the United Nations because feedback is negative rather than positive and the effects of CO2 emissions reductions on atmospheric CO2 appear to be short rather than long lasting.
· The costs of CO2 emissions reductions are perhaps an order of magnitude higher than usually estimated because of technological and implementation problems recently identified.
· CO2 emissions reductions are economically unattractive since the few benefits remaining after the corrections for the above effects are quite unlikely to economically justify the much higher costs unless much lower cost geoengineering is used.
· The risk of catastrophic anthropogenic global warming appears to be so low that it is not currently worth doing anything to try to control it, including geoengineering.

109 90% of scientists also say that Jon Huntsman sucks Bassett Hound cocks.

110 I thought we moved past this a long time ago and are now worried about the real threat to mankind....

MAN-BEAR-PIG!!!

EXCELSIOR!!!!

111 My mom gets so upset because after I argue with bro. he calls her and bitches her out.

Their is no talking with a lib because their reality changes by the second.

It isn't about ethics, moral, looking at everything and deciding on you own personal view, it really is a cult.  It makes them who they are.  That is why they hate God.  You can't have faith in God and at the same time believe/live like your opinions are who you are.

Being a 'Child of God' means I am of Him and everything I am revolves around Him.  Being a liberal means they are a child of someone else's thoughts, and everything they are revolves around (a stranger) someone else's thoughts.

112 "Rule #1: There's no reason to credit a brilliant scientist's insights on any subject outside his field."
Next you'll try telling us Alec Baldwin has no business lecturing us on politics.

113
Kuato is my wingman.

114 AGW provided the left with what they psychologically need: a phantom threat to marshal the collective that is no threat at all. Comic book stuff really. Dr. Evil with lasers. Ian Flemming used this story structure all the time. Sometimes its was really hard to believe that a Goldfinger could nuke Ft. Knox and thus triple the value of his gold holdings. But then there is Soros and his protege ODD JOB Barry and you start believing in worldwide conspiracies. So, the lesson here is not to be too hard on the Beaver when it comes to percieved threats. Consider the leftard brain, they could believe in a phantom threat and do relatively harmless things or they could deal with a real threat and do the obvious. Given that the real threat was Islamic terrorism versus fat bald business guys who make things who would you rather fight? There is some real self delusion-self protection thingy going on the leftard brain. Not a pyschologist so I don't know what to call it. Maybe EOJ can define it.

115 Karol, Ace, and Allahpundit went to the movies together a few years ago. Did ace unbutton his shirt so you could get some popcorn, or just toss a handful down his collar now and then?

116 Being a 'Child of God' means I am of Him and everything I am revolves around Him.  Being a liberal means they are a child of someone else's thoughts, and everything they are revolves around (a stranger) someone else's thoughts.

Posted by: momma at May 17, 2011 04:53 PM (penCf)

Pinch his cheek, say "You're so cute when you're rude, and I forgive you" and walk off. Drives em nuts to be dismissed and laughed at.

117 Mein Fuehrer, I can walk!

118 We propose that we stop global warming by shooting it with money

119 We once had a 4 hour argument over defunding planned parenthood.  He finally realized he lost the argument, called me a 'fucking Bible thumping, ignorant, bitch' and hung up.

I called him right back and said: 'My Faith in God compels me to immediately forgive you for lying and name calling.  May you find comfort in my forgiveness.'

I still laugh about it. 

Posted by: momma at May 17, 2011 04:46 PM (penCf)

 

Way to go momma.  Smash their faces with the fist of spiritual principle.

120 "Rule #1: There's no reason to credit a brilliant scientist's insights on any subject outside his field."
Next you'll try telling us Alec Baldwin has no business lecturing us on politics.

Posted by: Film Actors Guild at May 17, 2011 04:56 PM (zhC9L)

Not without a script, and a good chase scene.

121

Remember that day we were supposed to all turn off our lights for a photo from space (for earth hour or something)? I left mine on.

However, I do recycle and have for decades here in Florida (curbside). My stuff builds plastic stuff or makes big landfills of recycle stuff. Don't know, but it is a shameful habit of mine.

122

As a mere layman who follows astrophysics, I understand Hawking is pretty brilliant. However, I'm beginning to wonder if he isn't rather overrated.

He's actually fucked up at least twice.  He's not nearly as well respected by his peers as he is by the press.  I've seen a documentary on one of the sciency channels that was a Hawking slamfest.  One thing that he backed away from because of how stupid it was, was the belief that if and when the Universe began contracting time would begin to run in reverse. O_o

123

Yep, scratch Huntsman off the list.

Like He ever made it.

106 -

Organically induced schizophrenia.

124

However, I do recycle and have for decades here in Florida (curbside). My stuff builds plastic stuff or makes big landfills of recycle stuff. Don't know, but it is a shameful habit of mine.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky at May 17, 2011 04:57 PM (FnRYN)

We only forgive you if you do it for the money.

125 Now if only we can get Discovery Channel Canada anchorbabe Ziya Tong to turn to the Dark Side.

126 What ever happened to chloroflorocarbons being behind everything? 

Posted by: Damiano at May 17, 2011 04:46 PM (3nrx7)

I thought that the real reason was that the Dow patent on Freon was running out.  Thus, for the chirrens we needed to go from R12 to R-134a (and restart the patent clock).  The overt reason was ozone holes and climate damage.

127

Michael Crichton wrote a GREAT book about the myth of Global Warming complete with internet footnotes to reference his evidence years ago called "State of Fear". It's actually a great read.

Fact: anthropomorphic CO2 production is THIRD behind volcanoes and (try not to laugh) termites. Mankind maxes out at about 1/2% of all CO2 generated depending on how many volcanoes go off this year. And that's propably DOWN from pre-industrial revolution times when mankind burned off ground cover and heated their homes and cooked with wood fires.

Like Honey Badger, the Earth knows you're here.... but she just don't care.

128

Mr. Huntsman, Paging Mr. Huntsman. ..............................................

Would a Mr. Huntsman Please report to irrelevence. Mr. Huckelbee, Trump, and Gingrich are waiting for you.

129 Being a 'Child of God' means I am of Him and everything I am revolves around Him.<<< Does this mean you're still wearing a bra and panties?

130

Hawking used to get A's in Physics by selling his hot mute sister to his Professors for sportsfucking in the lounge.

He's actually dumber than crap.

131 Does anyone here even know what Huntsman looks like? I could not pick him out of a hobo line up right now.

132 As a mere layman who follows astrophysics, I understand Hawking is pretty brilliant. However, I'm beginning to wonder if he isn't rather overrated. He's actually fucked up at least twice. He's not nearly as well respected by his peers as he is by the press. I've seen a documentary on one of the sciency channels that was a Hawking slamfest. That is exactly what I was wondering. It doesn't surprise me.

133

Aren't lib siblings fun?  And "special."

Posted by: Jane D'oh

DO they get their own helmet and window to lick?

134

This guy better prepare to get everything the left has thrown at him. He's a heretic and one who blows the whistle on their scam will be especially targeted. He should be worried about his safety. These turds are violent, especially when you expose them. I don't say that lightly. The lefties/green nics are nasty.

135 How does one follow astrophysics?

136 139 How does one follow astrophysics?   Shit TexasJew, you're from Texas and your Jewish and you don't know?

137 I worked for GE back in the late 90s and guess where housekeeping emptied all of our mandatory RECYCLING bins? The landfill destined garbage dumpster.

138 How does one follow astrophysics? Get her phone number or license plate from Facebook, do a reverse lookup, then you stalk her house and send her e-mail.

139 ...and then there's that whole inconvenient idea that CO2 lags global temperature by 800 years.

140

The press wanted another Einstein.  And Hawking has a look that they can "hawk" and write praise about constantly.  They just want their "rock star" scientist they can always go to for a quote.

Posted by: buzzion at May 17, 2011 05:07 PM (oVQFe)

 

We used to have a radio morning show guy that did some outrageously funny bits on Hawking.  They never were complimentary. 

141 I worked for GE back in the late 90s and guess where housekeeping emptied all of our mandatory RECYCLING bins? The landfill destined garbage dumpster.

I read an article a few months back that someone wrote after investigating several cities with recycling programs. After all the separate bins were collected and brought back to the center they were mixed together and taken to the landfill and burried just like they had done since time immemorial.

This occurred in 80% of the cities he studied.

142 I read "State of Fear" and always pictured the "actor/activist" character as Martin Sheen...

143 I just drafted Leo Szilard to my Fantasy Physics team.

144 "There's no global warming? I went down on Nancy for nothing?" Oh, great! Now you got me feeling sympathy for Newt.

145

Do they get their own helmet and window to lick?

Nope. They get and eyepatch and a fork with a protective cork on it.

"May I use the bathroom?"

146 I read an article a few months back that someone wrote after investigating several cities with recycling programs. After all the separate bins were collected and brought back to the center they were mixed together and taken to the landfill and burried just like they had done since time immemorial.

This occurred in 80% of the cities he studied.

Posted by: Vic at May 17, 2011 05:12 PM (M9Ie6)

In mine they are dumped into the same bin on the truck.

147 Does this mean you're still wearing a bra and panties?

Posted by: Empire of Jeff, Atheist and Arbiter of Morality at May 17, 2011 05:00 PM (OW0nw)

Nope.  You know the reason I only type with one hand . . .

148

Don't make me write another poem!

149

 

 I worked for GE back in the late 90s and guess where housekeeping emptied all of our mandatory RECYCLING bins? The landfill destined garbage dumpster.

Always take mine to a scrap metal recycle center, get 50 cents a pound for Beer soda pop cans here...

150 Always take mine to a scrap metal recycle center, get 50 cents a pound for Beer soda pop cans here...

Posted by: SomeWhereSouthWest at May 17, 2011 05:17 PM (CyPWX)

You know recycling is a scam as long as they don't pay you to take your stuff.  Do iron smelters make the ore company pay them?

151 I read an article a few months back that someone wrote after investigating several cities with recycling programs. After all the separate bins were collected and brought back to the center they were mixed together and taken to the landfill and burried just like they had done since time immemorial.

Buddy of mine who works at the county dump has told me the same thing.

152

Sorry, but some pointy-heads need to explain to me how gasses are able to stratify if they're in motion. I still rather doubt that they do that in the upper atmosphere, and I especially doubt the "Ozone Layer" theory since it was posed in the early 20th century, well before any type of advanced methods of study, like satellites.

From what this layman understands, the upper layers of the atmosphere are constantly pelted with micrometeorites, thus keeping the gasses stirred up.

I've probably asked this before, but since I'm a moron, I don't remember the answer.

153 Cops arrest alleged cannibal after finding human stew Authorities say murder suspect scattered remains of his victim across Moscow

 

Seems the hobo apocalypse started in Moscow.

154 51 But then what about the carbon dioxide on Venus??

More importantly, what about the carbon dioxide on Uranus?

155

Don't make me write another poem!

Posted by: Algore, billionaire poet at May 17, 2011 05:17 PM (9BzDU)

 

If you do, please don't try to paint a picture of crunchy clouds.

156 I just drafted Leo Szilard to my Fantasy Physics team. Goddamn it! Now all I have left to choose is Klaus Fuchs, and he's a freaking commie.

157

Your family get togethers must be awesome.

Posted by: buzzion at May 17, 2011 05:04 PM (oVQFe)

They asre even better than you can imagine because my family-union-Dem husband turned Conservative has a way of getting really blunt when my bro refuses to listen to what I say, and starts name calling.

Between my husband and I (both confident, outspoken, intelligent, reasoned thinkers), my quiet yet snarky Conservative brother, my timid sister and my 'not picking a side' mom, get togethers are awesome.

Until we started having kids of our own, we never had a Thanksgiving dinner that didn't end with someone getting pissed and leaving before dessert was served.  I really thought it was the norm in every family.

158

Until we started having kids of our own, we never had a Thanksgiving dinner that didn't end with someone getting pissed and leaving before dessert was served.  I really thought it was the norm in every family.

Posted by: momma at May 17, 2011 05:22 PM (penCf)

More pie for you!

159 "My mom gets so upset because after I argue with bro. he calls her and bitches her out." He still calls him mommy to complain? Geez.

160 I'm just glad the chocolate ration was raised to 12 grams.

161 In their words: "Isn't the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn't it our responsibility to bring that about?" - Maurice Strong, former Secretary General of UNEP "A New World Order is required to deal with the Climate Change crisis." - Gordon Brown, British Prime Minister "No matter if the science of global warming is all phony... climate change provides the greatest opportunity to bring about justice and equality in the world." - Christine Stewart, former Canadian Minister of the Environment "The data doesn't matter. We're not basing our recommendations on the data. We're basing them on the climate models." - Prof. Chris Folland, Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research "It doesn't matter what is true, it only matters what people believe is true." - Paul Watson, co-founder of Greenpeace "Unless we announce disasters no one will listen." - Sir John Houghton, first chairman of IPCC - David, UK, 02/3/2010

162 Oh, noes!  Our politicians are being made fools of!  Whatever shall we do?

163 Edward Teller could clean off home plate with his eyebrows.

164 I just drafted Leo Szilard to my Fantasy Physics team.


Goddamn it! Now all I have left to choose is Klaus Fuchs, and he's a freaking commie.

Posted by: George Orwell at May 17, 2011 05:21 PM (ODJgp)

 

Damn!  He was my first choice too.  Then I was going to pick Bernard Burke, but he went on the injury list after submitting his last paper.

165 I take my aluminum cans to the fire station. They take them to an aluminum recycling place and sell them. The proceeds go to the Shriner's Burn Children Hospitals.

166

But AGW posits there is a positive feedback mechanism. ... It's plausible, but ...

Actually, no, it's not even plausible. Being someone who has studied control theory, this would be what you call an unstable situation - the least little blip in temperature would set it off this unstable mode, and the temperature would spiral upward until some other mechanism became dominant. And these scientists should be well aware of that.

167

"Nope.  You know the reason I only type with one hand ."

FAP..FAP...FAP....FAP.....FAP......FAP.......FAP........FAP!

168 Yes. Karol, Ace, and Allahpundit went to the movies together a few years ago.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 17, 2011 04:47 PM (gM4zK)


I thought it was a Broadway musical?

169 Richard Feynman would piss in the other team's Gatorade.

170 More importantly, what about the carbon dioxide on Uranus?

Nah. Just Methane.

171 Karol, Ace, and Allahpundit went to the movies

And there is a guaranteed 600-comment post just waiting to be written.

172 Oh, Feynman... that guy was The Awesome in human form. His is the only clear, precise, anti-mystical explanation I've ever read of quantum behavior, from Lectures on Physics. Vol. 1, Ch. 37.

173

It's really very simple. Of all the so-called green-house gases (water vapor, methane, CO2, ozone) the only one that is easily taxed is CO2. Who cares if it is only 0.04% of the atmosphere! Oh, and who cares that plants NEED fucking CO2. I'm guessing clear-cutting forrests to install windmills is not helping to reduce CO2.

The idea that that minute amount could heat up the other 99.96% of the atmosphere is like a BB stopping a Kenworth.

174

Sorry, but some pointy-heads need to explain to me how gasses are able to stratify if they're in motion. I still rather doubt that they do that in the upper atmosphere, and I especially doubt the "Ozone Layer" theory since it was posed in the early 20th century, well before any type of advanced methods of study, like satellites.

From what this layman understands, the upper layers of the atmosphere are constantly pelted with micrometeorites, thus keeping the gasses stirred up.

I've probably asked this before, but since I'm a moron, I don't remember the answer.

Gasses just like any other element have different molecular weights. Visualize oil and water seperating into layers and realize that gasses don't have as much viscosity to slow down the seperation process. So yes, mixed gasses will seperate into stratified layers over time. Heavier gasses mix with the weather turbulance near the earth and the higher levels seperate into increasingly lighter gasses as pressure and density get lighter at higher altitudes.

The very highest level is known as Obama Farts.

175

Crap! What Globally Devastating Catastrophe Requiring Further Advancement of the NWO Agenda can we scam teh people with now???

176 Thank goodness the polls show that 82% still believe in God.
All those "God Deniers" need to shape up.

177

The whole "science" of global warming is based on a hunch.

That's undoubtedly putting it kindly. What happens is, that somebody notices an upward trend in the global temperature (as measured by hopelessly flawed instruments, BTW), gets the idea in their head that "evil" mankind is the culprit, and then self-annoints themselves as the Saviors of the entire world. Then, they start drawing up computer models, which leads to a desperate search for any mechanism that sounds even remotely "plausible" (if you don't think about it for over two seconds).

Such a process is the likely birthplace of CO2 "positive feedback", not a "hunch".

178 polls indicate that as many as 34% say that they think UFOs are real.

That means 66% don't believe in UFOs, so UFO Deniers are cool

179 I seem to remember something called The Carbon Cycle, The Conservation Of Energy, The Conservation Of Mass, The Water Cycle, Latent Heat Of  Vaporization; all of which work to disprove AGW. It's Science!

180 Also troublesome about this AGW cult is that the facts about CO2 were known for a long while -- it is not the magic greenhouse gas Al Gore and others try to claim.

Why did so many scientists throw in with this cult when they should've known better? If grants are causing this subversion of science then the whole damn practice needs review and better oversight. If this is about unicorns and a rainbows in some socialist utopia, they must resign from whatever "scientific" organization they belong to and run for office with the rest of the brain dead politicians.

I do recall some scientists asking one of the AGW proponents (I think it was Hansen but not sure now) about this CO2 problem and instead of an answer or reasonable explanation he got insulted for daring to question "the science".

Hansen should be fired right now. He should not be drawing a paycheck from tax payers. NASA is already running on borrowed respect -- if it does not begin divorcing itself from this cult then it will lose even more, not a prescription for future funding.

181 DON'T YOU WINGERS WANT CLEAN AIR!?!?!?

182 Sorry, but some pointy-heads need to explain to me how gasses are able to stratify if they're in motion. I still rather doubt that they do that in the upper atmosphere, and I especially doubt the "Ozone Layer" theory since it was posed in the early 20th century, well before any type of advanced methods of study, like satellites.

Ozone, or O3, is created constantly in the upper atmosphere by energetic particles and energy from solar radiation. It is "destroyed" when it chemically interacts with other stuff.

The reason why there's a "layer" of it is that the upper atmosphere is where he conditions exist that create it from O2, and it doesn't last long.

That's all, no mysteries, no magic, no need for complex explanations.

That's also why there are "holes at the poles," there's less sunlight and thus less creation of Ozone.

183 But AGW posits there is a positive feedback political bullshit mechanism.

184 Sorry if this is a repeat, but Watts Up With That has the money quote:

At the other end of the scale, by way of contrast, the MetÂ’s principle research scientist John Mitchell told us: People underestimate the power of models. Observational evidence is not very useful, adding,'Our approach is not entirely empirical

185 Sorry for all the missing quotes, but that's the substance of global warmism.  It's not entirely empirical.

And they call themselves scientists?

186 Dave Evans has been a sceptic for a while so, sorry guys, it isn't a breakthrough. I've been to several conferences and seen him speak, he says he had an epiphany maybe 5 years ago. His wife, Jo Nova, has written a really good booklet about the holes in the science, it's really worth a read. http://joannenova.com.au/global-warming (sorry, I don't get the tiny url thing)

187 Why, when it comes to pundits and expert wannabes, do we give a voice.....EVER.....to someone that has something to gain by an opinion.  These AGW freaks and so-called scientists all have government grants at risk if they do not back AGW!.  In the real world, where we engineers live, you are not alowed an opinion if you have something to gain by that opinion.  Can you say conflict of interest?  Why then do we ever give media time or space to anyone but independent experts?  AGW does not exist in any long term form that is measureable.  CO2 is a necessary gas and we cannot live without it.  In fact we need more not less CO2.  The earth's growing regions have been moving towards the equator, which among other things means potentially less food and O2.  Personally, I like food and O2.  Do you?