May 24, 2011
— DrewM As you'd imagine, lots of interesting stuff. Below are some extensive excerpts and brief commentary. If you have any interest in defense issues and where we're going, the whole speech is well worth your time.
First, the reality...the defense budget is not going back to "the good old" days anytime soon.
But, as I am fond of saying, we live in the real world. Absent a catastrophic international conflict or new existential threat, we are not likely to return to Cold War levels of defense expenditures, at least as a share of national wealth anytime soon. Nor do I believe we need to.First, the world is different. Our primary adversary then was a comparably armed super power, bristling with millions of troops, tens of thousands of tanks, and thousands of advanced combat aircraft – not to mention a vast arsenal of nuclear weapons – that was poised to overrun Western Europe and could directly threaten our allies and interests around the globe.
I know – as head analyst at CIA I signed off on the studies of Soviet military power. The threats and potential adversaries America faces today and down the road are dangerous and daunting – for their complexity, variety and unpredictability. But as a matter of national survival, they do not approach the scale of the Soviet military threat that provided the political and strategic rationale for defense expenditures that consumed a significant portion of our economy.
Second, we’re not going to see a return to Cold War-level defense budgets, at least as a share of GDP, because America is different: Our economy, our demographics, and our fiscal predicament – whether measured in the size of debt and deficits, ratios of retirees to workers, or the share of the federal budget consumed by entitlements. The money and political support simply aren’t there.
In fact, under Gates the services have already done quite a bit of cutting.
The first stage, beginning in Spring 2009, dealt with procurement – the weapons the military buys or plans to buy in the future. We cancelled or curtailed modernization programs that were egregiously over-budget, behind schedule, dependent on unproven technology, supplied a niche requirement that could be met in other ways, or that simply did not pass the common sense test: A $200 billion future combat system for the Army that, a decade after IEDS and EFPs began to kill or maim thousands of our troops, was based on lightweight, flat-bottomed vehicles that relied on near-perfect information awareness to detect the enemy before he could strike. Or a missile defense program that called for a fleet of laser-bearing 747s circling slowly inside enemy air space to get off a shot at a missile right after launch.All told, over the past two years, more than 30 programs were cancelled, capped, or ended that, if pursued to completion, would have cost more than $300 billion. At the same time, we made new investments in higher priorities related to the current wars and, in some cases, re-started efforts that filled a genuine military need for the future – such as a follow-on bomber for the Air Force, the Army’s Ground Combat Vehicle, and a new Marine amphibious tractor. We also invested in new technologies and capabilities to address emerging sophisticated threats. But our new starts and new investments are on a far more realistic footing that relies on proven technology and can be produced on time and on budget.
This process also forced the Pentagon’s leadership to confront this vexing and disturbing reality: since 9/11, a near-doubling of the Pentagon’s modernization accounts – more than $700 billion over 10 years in new spending on procurement, research and development – has resulted in relatively modest gains in actual military capability. In fact, most of the significant new capabilities that have come online over the past decade were largely paid for outside the base budget, via supplemental war requests. In particular, larger ground forces and specialized battlefield equipment such as MRAPs, body armor, and other gear.
Still, there's not post-Cold War like "Peace Dividend" (An awful concept that created a lot of problems. Just another gift from George H.W. Bush) because we have real procurement needs, in addition to ongoing operations.
I revisit this history because it leads to an important point for the future: when it comes to our military modernization accounts, the proverbial “low hanging fruit” – those weapons and other programs considered most questionable – have not only been plucked, they have been stomped on and crushed. What remains are much-needed capabilities – relating to air superiority and mobility, long-range strike, nuclear deterrence, maritime access, space and cyber warfare, ground forces, intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance – that our nation’s civilian and military leadership deem absolutely critical. For example:We must build a new tanker. The ones we have are twice as old as many of the pilots flying them;
We must field a next generation strike fighter – the F-35 – and at a cost that permits large enough numbers to replace the current fighter inventory and maintain a healthy margin of superiority over the Russians and Chinese;
We must build more ships – in recent years, the size of the Navy fleet has sunk to the lowest number since before World War II, and will get smaller as more Reagan-era vessels reach the end of their service life;
We must recapitalize the ground forces – the Army and Marines – whose combat vehicles and helicopters are worn down after a decade of war; and
At some point we must replace our ballistic missile submarines – a program that illustrates the modernization dilemmas we face.
Gates says they've already wrung out the low-hanging fruit in procurement and manpower.
As a result, starting last spring, we began to take a hard look at the department’s overhead costs, in particular the massive administrative and support bureaucracies – within the military services, and across the defense department as a whole. The purpose was to carve out more budget “headroom” that could be allocated to force structure and modernization.The results of these efforts were, frankly, mixed. The military services, in my view, successfully leaned forward and found nearly $100 billion in efficiency savings – by closing facilities, combining headquarters, reducing energy costs, and much more – over five years and allocated those funds to make new priority investments and deal with higher than projected expenses. Across the department as a whole, we were able to save another $54 billion through freezing civilian staff and pay levels, eliminating one 4-star command and downgrading two others, eliminating or down-grading more than 350 generals, admirals, and civilian executive positions, reducing reliance on contractors, getting rid of unnecessary reports and studies, and more.
...So I believe there are more savings possible by culling more overhead and better accounting for, and thus better managing, the funds and people we have. But one thing is quite clear. These efficiencies efforts will not come close to meeting the budget targets laid out by the president, much less other, higher targets being bandied about. Some perspective is important. What’s being proposed by the President is nothing close to the dramatic cuts of the past. For example, defense spending in constant dollars declined by roughly a third between 1985 and 1998. What’s being considered today, assuming all $400 billion comes from DoD over 12 years, corresponds to a projected reduction of about 5 percent in constant dollars – or slightly less than keeping pace with inflation.
So maybe we need to try some radical new personnel strategies some of which will be very controversial, to say the least.
That is why I launched a comprehensive review last week to ensure that future spending decisions are focused on priorities, strategy and risks, and are not simply a math and accounting exercise. In the end, this process must be about identifying options for the President and the Congress, to ensure that the nation consciously acknowledges and accepts additional risk in exchange for reduced investment in its military.Part of this analysis will entail going places that have been avoided by politicians in the past. Taking on some of these issues could entail:
Re-examining military compensation levels in light of the fact that – apart from the U.S. Army during the worst years of Iraq – all the services have consistently exceeded their recruiting and retention goals;
It could mean taking a look at the rigid, one-size-fits-all approach to retirement, pay and pensions left over from the last century. A more tiered and targeted system – one that weights compensation towards the most high demand and dangerous specialties – could bring down costs while attracting and retaining the high quality personnel we need; and
It will require doing something about spiraling health care costs – and in particular the health insurance benefit for working age retirees whose fees are one-tenth those of federal civil servants, and have not been raised since 1995.
And then the nub of the matter...what assumptions do you use to judge these competing interests and build the force?
For example, the assumption behind most of our military planning ever since the end of the Cold War has been that the U.S. must be able to fight two major regional wars at the same time. One might conclude that the odds of that contingency are sufficiently low, or that any eruption of conflicts would happen one after the other, not simultaneously. What are the implications of that with respect to force structure, and what are the risks? One can assume certain things won’t happen on account of their apparent low probability. But the enemy always has a vote.These are the kinds of scenarios we need to consider, the kinds of discussions we need to have. If we are going to reduce the resources and the size of the U.S. military, people need to make conscious choices about what the implications are for the security of the country, as well as for the variety of military operations we have around the world if lower priority missions are scaled back or eliminated. They need to understand what it could mean for a smaller pool of troops and their families if America is forced into a protracted land war again – yes, the kind no defense secretary should recommend anytime soon, but one we may not be able to avoid. To shirk this discussion of risks and consequences – and the hard decisions that must follow – I would regard as managerial cowardice.
What he's basically saying there is don't simply cut 10% or whatever across the board. Some programs and very controversially, some whole services, are worth more than others. Taking the same amount of money or as a percentage of their budgets from the Army as the Navy maybe counterproductive if you think the near and midterm threats are basically going to be Air-Sea battle space affairs.
Of course anyone who predicted on September 10th, 2001 we'd be spending the better part of a decade involved in not one but two land wars in Asia would have been locked up in an asylum. Though in reality it's easier to build up a land-force than it is to reconstitute a navy.
Defense is like insurance, you grumble when you have to pay for it but when the storm comes, you're damn glad you have it. There's no magic formula so if we are going to err (and we inevitably will) we err on the side of more capability we don't use than not enough when we need it.
Gates is urging a serious look at what we have and where we think we'll be fighting in the next decade plus as well as a realistic look at what we do now that we're willing to no longer do (think soft power). Then and only then, make smart, tough cuts accordingly. Yeah, good luck with this administration and the realities of defense spending on Capitol Hill.
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Posted by: Ben at May 24, 2011 04:59 PM (DKV43)
Posted by: MCPO Airdale at May 24, 2011 05:01 PM (FAyWo)
I'm thinking we need to find a way to build cutting edge weaponry more cheaply or we're just going to have to forgo all of this fun of perpetual war.
Shucks.
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at May 24, 2011 05:03 PM (jx2j9)
Posted by: Clubber Lang at May 24, 2011 05:03 PM (QcFbt)
Posted by: MCPO Airdale at May 24, 2011 09:01 PM (FAyWo)
me thinks the chicoms are due their own shitstorm at some point
Posted by: Jackhole at May 24, 2011 05:03 PM (+qHxi)
Posted by: Nozzle at May 24, 2011 05:03 PM (sE08M)
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at May 24, 2011 05:05 PM (jx2j9)
"Second, we’re not going to see a return to Cold War-level defense budgets, at least as a share of GDP, because America is different: Our economy, our demographics, and our fiscal predicament – whether measured in the size of debt and deficits, ratios of retirees to workers, or the share of the federal budget consumed by entitlements. The money and political support simply aren’t there."
Mission Accomplished!
Posted by: Barack Obama at May 24, 2011 05:08 PM (YJvVE)
I hate this administration.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 24, 2011 05:09 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: steevy at May 24, 2011 05:11 PM (7I2m9)
Posted by: Pres'ent "Gutsy Call" at May 24, 2011 05:12 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Truman North at May 24, 2011 05:12 PM (K2wpv)
Posted by: The DNC at May 24, 2011 05:12 PM (sE08M)
Posted by: Ben at May 24, 2011 08:59 PM (DKV43)
Umm. Boomer here, and mother of a Marine. And I don't intend to take my SS I contributed to for 30 years. Neither does my husband. Please take note and back off.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 24, 2011 05:17 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 24, 2011 05:18 PM (UOM48)
Think also how this defense expenditure cutting affects technological influences in not just military-wise but also in other areas. . . We are crippling our country's future in more than one way by this thinking.
My 10 year old son is scientifically/technologically-inclined, and he is enamored with weaponry and related technology. I guess the government will not be employing or encouraging him or his fellow nerds from his special nerd school. Our best and brightest youngins had better start looking at the more Marxist, Socialist, and Commie-styled jobs if they wanna have something to do with their lives. Not that I'm against organic gardening and raising sheep or passing out propaganda pamphlets or straight-up academia by any means.
Posted by: HotinHEAVEN at May 24, 2011 05:20 PM (SQvIY)
and my undying dislike... i will kill him last.
Posted by: The Great Satan's Ghost at May 24, 2011 05:22 PM (UrPTC)
Umm. Boomer here, and mother of a Marine. And I don't intend to take my SS I contributed to for 30 years. Neither does my husband. Please take note and back off.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 24, 2011 09:17 PM (UOM4
My parents are also Baby Boomers. . . but they aren't like Baby Boomers at all. They are embarrassed by many of their peers and don't like what the generation in general did with the opportunities and choices they had. Would you, Jane D'oh, consider yourself to have much in common with the Baby Boomers aside from the time period of your youth? I'm a Gen X-er and don't really relate to the "stereotyped" individual of that generation myself.
We've had discussions that the Greatest Generation was NOT the greatest when it came to parenting. One thing's for certain, peer influence is devastating too.
Posted by: HotinHEAVEN at May 24, 2011 05:27 PM (SQvIY)
smaller forces with less stuff against the Chinese, with more guys and shitloads of their crappy but sufficient stuff... *sigh* i guess it doesnt matter to him, cuz its not HIS most important person in his life that will die for lack of resources, so some drug addicts can get their welfare cheques.
Posted by: Gushka at May 24, 2011 05:31 PM (93zw2)
Yeah, that's me. $40/mo for full family coverage - with nominal copays.
I could stand to pay more. And would.
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at May 24, 2011 05:33 PM (CMx/T)
Posted by: HotinHEAVEN at May 24, 2011 05:35 PM (SQvIY)
Uh Ben,
Baby boomer, retired Marine and current business owner. As well, I support my mother, an ex-wife who gets a cut of my mil-retirement, and several local bars...What you got on your resume' hotshot?
Posted by: The DNC at May 24, 2011 05:35 PM (sE08M)
Umm. Boomer here, and
mother of a Marine. And I don't intend to take my SS I contributed to
for 30 years. Neither does my husband. Please take note and back off.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 24, 2011 09:17 PM (UOM4
My parents are also Baby Boomers. . . but they aren't like Baby Boomers at all. They are embarrassed by many of their peers and don't like what the generation in general did with the opportunities and choices they had. Would you, Jane D'oh, consider yourself to have much in common with the Baby Boomers aside from the time period of your youth? I'm a Gen X-er and don't really relate to the "stereotyped" individual of that generation myself.
We've had discussions that the Greatest Generation was NOT the greatest when it came to parenting. One thing's for certain, peer influence is devastating too.
Posted by: HotinHEAVEN at May 24, 2011 09:27 PM (SQvIY)
My parents were also part of the Greatest. They never bought on credit unless it was paid off the next month. My dad served as an Air Force officer for 22 years. My mother worked in a bank after his retirement while he taught school. They were the most frugal people I've ever known. They were awesome parents. I've married a good man, raised a great son, and we're living well within our means and don't expect a damned dime from the government.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 24, 2011 05:36 PM (UOM48)
That sweet, sweet booty is ours!
Posted by: Fritz at May 24, 2011 05:38 PM (AN8d5)
Not to speak for Ben, but I will say that there's kind of a feeling that Baby Boomers got us into much of this mess by various avenues. . . NOT ALL Boomers, but as I asked Jane D'oh before: are you really much like the stereotypical Baby Boomer? Most likely not - or so it seems by your reply post.
It's hard not to be angry with the Boomers as we see them retiring and riding around town with no worries and buying vacation homes, living it up big, while us younger people are facing a crappy future that will resemble nothing that your generation has had the privilege of knowing. No disrespect, but it's something to consider.
Posted by: HotinHEAVEN at May 24, 2011 05:39 PM (SQvIY)
I'm a Gen X-er and don't really relate to the "stereotyped" individual of that generation myself.
Posted by: HotinHEAVEN at May 24, 2011 09:27 PM (SQvIY)
I'm a Gen Xr that didn't even pass the fucking interview. The Navy didn't accept me because I have asthma.
I get pissed because I feel I should be there but it is what it is, so whatever.
Fucking cocksuckers.
Posted by: ErikW at May 24, 2011 05:40 PM (CjRv+)
Posted by: Nozzle, the artist formerly known as the DNC at May 24, 2011 05:41 PM (sE08M)
My parents were also part of the Greatest. They never bought on credit unless it was paid off the next month. My dad served as an Air Force officer for 22 years. My mother worked in a bank after his retirement while he taught school. They were the most frugal people I've ever known. They were awesome parents. I've married a good man, raised a great son, and we're living well within our means and don't expect a damned dime from the government.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 24, 2011 09:36 PM (UOM4
Jane, these are the kinds of people that kept responsibility alive and well. They passed on a legacy of personal responsibility, and for that they deserve the respect. Most conservative Baby Boomers are NOT like their liberal counterparts. My grandparents were the same sort of people.
Face it, maybe this isn't a generational war as much as it is a battle of values. Unfortunately, it appears that conservative values have gotten lost in the fog, and now we've got a damned mess on our hands.
Posted by: HotinHEAVEN at May 24, 2011 05:43 PM (SQvIY)
Not to speak for Ben, but I will say that there's kind of a feeling that Baby Boomers got us into much of this mess by various avenues. . . NOT ALL Boomers, but as I asked Jane D'oh before: are you really much like the stereotypical Baby Boomer? Most likely not - or so it seems by your reply post.
It's hard not to be angry with the Boomers as we see them retiring and riding around town with no worries and buying vacation homes, living it up big, while us younger people are facing a crappy future that will resemble nothing that your generation has had the privilege of knowing. No disrespect, but it's something to consider.
Posted by: HotinHEAVEN at May 24, 2011 09:39 PM (SQvIY)
You're kidding, right? My husband is working his ass off having brought two companies out of bankruptcy. We're nowhere near retiring, if at all. Vacation home? You're kidding, right? We've both worked our asses off, haven't taken a vacation together in over seven years. We put our son through a small private school so he wouldn't be indoctrinated by the government. He's chosen to *gasp* serve his country in Marines.
And during all that time I cared single-handedly for my aging, dying parents. I'm not taking my SS, and neither is my husband. Hope that makes you feel all warm and fuzzy.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 24, 2011 05:45 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: whatever at May 24, 2011 05:47 PM (1EdTn)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 24, 2011 05:50 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 24, 2011 09:45 PM (UOM4
Jane, I don't think you or your family has been irresponsible, but I will say as a collective, your generation FAILED this country in many ways. Yes, there are some good things to come out of the Baby Boom generation (and I pray there are more good things to come), but geez, look at your generation. I'm not assailing you personally. I think I've made that clear.
But I'm not alone - and neither is Ben - in generalizing that the Baby Boomers as a collective are not leaving the world a better place. If they are, then please tell me how. With the exception that a few of you bothered to stick to some decent values of personal responsibility and passed it on.
You don't suck, Jane D'oh. But I will say it loudly from the rooftops: I don't have the respect for the BABY BOOMERS THAT THEY WANT ME TO HAVE, AND I WILL NEVER THANK THEM FOR THE SH*TTY MESS THEY LEFT FOR THEIR GRANDKIDS!
Posted by: HotinHEAVEN at May 24, 2011 05:51 PM (SQvIY)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 24, 2011 09:50 PM (UOM4
If I'm correct, Obama is considered a freakin' Baby Boomer.
Posted by: HotinHEAVEN at May 24, 2011 05:51 PM (SQvIY)
I would agree with some of the points SECDEF Gates is making in the speech. The problem is that I disagree with a lot of his points, and much of his decision making in the last couple years.
Also, we are talking about a SECDEF that in the last couple years, seem to address his speeches on military priorities in a way to piss off his audience the most. This is the same guy who is now stressing the Navy and Air Force over the Army and Marines - who only last year was calling stressing the Army and Marines over the Navy and Air Force (At a speech to the Navy League of all people.).
What are we suppose to believe from SECDEF Gates anymore? Frankly, the only reason I worry about his departure from office is his replacement - he has been making too many wrong calls in the last couple years AND he had provided cover for idiotic decision making by the rest of the Administration. His departure can NOT come fast enough.
Posted by: allo12 at May 24, 2011 05:52 PM (Ii6Fx)
Generalities serve no one. And I'm offended as hell, as a woman who was raised by awesome parents who I cared for and watched die and buried.
Sorry, I've been watching death and destruction in the Midwest this evening. Goodnight.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 24, 2011 05:57 PM (UOM48)
If I'm correct, Obama is considered a freakin' Baby Boomer.
Posted by: HotinHEAVEN at May 24, 2011 09:51 PM (SQvIY)
Technically perhaps but he's generally regarded 'round these parts as a coward.
Posted by: ErikW at May 24, 2011 06:03 PM (CjRv+)
In April 2009 the US Department of Defense proposed to cease placing new orders, subject to Congressional approval, for a final procurement tally of 187 Raptors.[10] Then the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2010 was signed into law in October 2009 without funding for further F-22 production.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at May 25, 2011 08:43 AM (9eDbm)
¶Former RAND author John Stillion has written of the F-35A's air-to-air combat performance that it “can’t turn, can’t climb, can’t run”, but Lockheed Martin test pilot Jon Beesley has countered that in an air-to-air configuration the F-35 has almost as much thrust as weight and a flight control system that allows it to be fully maneuverable even at a 50-degree angle of attack.[176]
¶Chen Hu, editor-in-chief of World Military Affairs magazine has said that the F-35 is too costly because it attempts to provide the capabilities needed for all three American services in a common airframe.[177] Dutch news program NOVA show interviewed US defense specialist Winslow T. Wheeler and aircraft designer Pierre Sprey who called the F-35 "heavy and sluggish" as well as having a "pitifully small load for all that money", and went on to criticize the value for money of the stealth measures as well as lacking fire safety measures. His final conclusion was that any air force would be better off maintaining its fleets of F-16s and F/A-18s compared to buying into the F-35 program.[178] Lockheed spokesman John Kent has said that the missing fire-suppression systems would have offered "very small" improvements to survivability.[179]
Not to mention in spite of being smaller than the F-22 it has a larger radar cross-section.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at May 25, 2011 08:54 AM (9eDbm)
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