March 26, 2011
— Dave in Texas The first woman candidate for Vice President.
This is something that I've witnessed in my life, a person hanging on until all of their loved ones are close, just to say goodbye in that way.
Raje said it seemed Ferraro held out until her husband and three children arrived. They were all at her bedside when she passed, she said."Gerry actually waited for all of them to come, which I think was incredible," said Raje, director of the myloma program at the hospital's cancer center. "They were all able to say their goodbyes to Mom."
It's just been my anecdotal experience is all, my mom held on for 30 hours in a coma until we could all be there. I was told by her doctor, and I'll admit perhaps it was just a kindness, that he thought she did that on purpose.
I thought I mighta still been in trouble or something. But I was cool.
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Posted by: not first at March 26, 2011 01:25 PM (fjbys)
Now, what poor, black kid, living in a hut, wants to play soccer with me?
Posted by: momma at March 26, 2011 01:26 PM (penCf)
Speaking of cancer, probably my favorite baseball player as a ute, Tony Gwynn was recently battling it.
Interesting story. Pretty shocking to see him in such horrible shape. He's much improved now though. How he keeps the bills off now.
Posted by: Delta Smelt at March 26, 2011 01:35 PM (m1fCS)
Posted by: USS Diversity at March 26, 2011 01:35 PM (gJNMj)
Posted by: USS Diversity at March 26, 2011 05:35 PM (gJNMj)
Because she was SMART!!!...you stupid teabagger!
Posted by: OKay in ME at March 26, 2011 01:37 PM (MNNZX)
Actually, she did. After she called Obama's experience and competence into question.
Probably just a coincidence, though.
Posted by: Johnny at March 26, 2011 01:39 PM (mhmc7)
Posted by: gesc at March 26, 2011 01:39 PM (FZAKH)
Posted by: Walter Mondale at March 26, 2011 01:39 PM (zgZzy)
Posted by: Damiano at March 26, 2011 01:43 PM (3nrx7)
Wife of one felon and mother of another, who is famous for being selected, exclusively due to her genitalia, by a loser in a pathetic attempt to bail out a hopeless campaign died today. Ferraro attempted to cling to relevance in the following decades by latching on to false claims of being the first female VP candidate (as if being selected for you gender and still losing in the second greatest landslide in American history is an accomplishment of any kind) and making statements that were calculated to get headlines by supporters trumping them up as being offensive.
Posted by: Damiano at March 26, 2011 05:43 PM (3nrx7)
STUPID CHAUVINIST TEABAGGER!!!
Posted by: Rapid NOW Supporter at March 26, 2011 01:46 PM (MNNZX)
Posted by: learflyer at March 26, 2011 01:46 PM (9vscO)
I denounce myself in advance, but the press releases and rowdy glasses after someone dies always drive me nuts.
Other than not liking when anyone dies save the truly evil, I agree with you. I'm sorry she is dead(particularly of such a horrible disease) but I feel no compunction to say anything nice about her on a professional level. Of course she might have been a fine mother and wife, but I of don't have any knowledge of that one way or another.
Everything you said was pretty much spot on. Doesn't make her terrible, just a middling affirmative action pol.
Posted by: Delta Smelt at March 26, 2011 01:47 PM (m1fCS)
Posted by: Damiano at March 26, 2011 01:48 PM (3nrx7)
Ferraro Defends Palin, Mum on Vote.
btw:
Update: 202 arrested for offenses including criminal damage during anti-cuts protests in London - SkyNews
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at March 26, 2011 01:50 PM (ATsDF)
Posted by: Spurwing Plover at March 26, 2011 01:50 PM (vA9ld)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 26, 2011 01:53 PM (/BkUV)
In the hospital we knew he was leaving us, yet he was still dad. Still talking, joking, etc.
When he finally fell asleep I went into his room and told him it was ok to go. We were all there and it was ok to hold the angel's hand. My dad's breathing complications started the second after that. (I was the closest to him of all my 7 bro/sis).
They moved him up to hospice and my step mom refused to say goodbye for 15 hours. Finally, she said good bye, dad woke up (been out the entire 24 hours) and said he told the angel. About 5 minutes later the nurse walked into dad's room, held my step mom's hand, she closed her eyes and dad died.
He waited for his children. He waited for me. He waited for his wife's ok. He waited for her close her eyes.
God bless him. If o0nly he could have waited to see his grand children.
Posted by: momma at March 26, 2011 01:55 PM (penCf)
RIP, Ms. Ferraro.
Posted by: baldilocks at March 26, 2011 01:56 PM (T2/zQ)
Everything you said was pretty much spot on. Doesn't make her terrible, just a middling affirmative action pol.
She knew one where she saw one and she was one of the few on the left (or the right!) who told the truth about Obama. Even now pundits talk about the miracle of electing a black man to the presidency, but I think we all knew that that was a huge net benefit for him. Like Ferraro said, if he were white, he would have run well behind John Edwards in the primary or would have achieved Dukakis-level defeat in the general.
Posted by: AmishDude at March 26, 2011 01:57 PM (BvBKY)
Should say - told the angel to wait.
Posted by: momma at March 26, 2011 01:58 PM (penCf)
Posted by: Damiano at March 26, 2011 01:59 PM (3nrx7)
Like Ferraro said, if he were white, he would have run well behind John Edwards in the primary or would have achieved Dukakis-level defeat in the general.
Agree, and I'm glad she had the stones to say what she did.
However....uh, pot n kettle perhaps?
Posted by: Delta Smelt at March 26, 2011 01:59 PM (8keNg)
Posted by: Nemo from Erewon at March 26, 2011 02:01 PM (MEFFC)
She knew one where she saw one and she was one
Yeah, you were probably alluding to that there amishdude. My bad.
Posted by: Delta Smelt at March 26, 2011 02:01 PM (8keNg)
Maybe not in 1984, but the Obamatrons bashed her to hell in 2008. I'd be disgusted with how they're using her today to bash Palin if I wasn't completely desensitized to their violent misogyny and shit-flinging by now.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 26, 2011 02:01 PM (op4Bf)
Sorry to hear about G.F.--she seemed to have a real nice disposition when she appeared on Fox. Arrivederci, paesana.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at March 26, 2011 02:04 PM (DPM1U)
My mom succumbed to a blood clot that killed her bowel organs following open heart surgery on a Tuesday. She slipped into a coma on Thursday. Friday night they re-opened her in surgery and discovered the damage.
I drove back home to sleep for a couple of hours, then brought my wife and kids back up on Sunday. Mom was surrounded by her husband, her 4 children and her 8 grandchildren, and slipped off late that morning. The doctor told me he didn't think she'd make it past Sat morning. I really expected her to pass soon after I left.
She never woke up, but I do think she knew.
Posted by: Dave in Texas at March 26, 2011 02:04 PM (Wh0W+)
Like Ferraro said, if he were white, he would have run well behind John Edwards in the primary or would have achieved Dukakis-level defeat in the general.
Wait a minute. GF was a racist teabagger?
Posted by: USS Diversity at March 26, 2011 02:06 PM (gJNMj)
Geez, I hadn't known about Tony Gwynn--glad to hear he's doing better. The first time I tried chewing tobacco, I barfed biscuits and gravy--which caused two very potent food aversions.
Yeah, I puked too. Chewed for awhile because of baseball, but was never a hardcore user. A nasty habit. Spilling the spittoon gets old.
Plus I didn't want t ruin my purdy smile.
Posted by: Delta Smelt at March 26, 2011 02:06 PM (m1fCS)
Yeah, you were probably alluding to that there amishdude. My bad.
Posted by: Delta Smelt at March 26, 2011 06:01 PM (8keNg)
Yeah, she knew even at the time that she was a token, but she would tell you that she was an important token.
Posted by: AmishDude at March 26, 2011 02:09 PM (BvBKY)
Posted by: eman: Japanese Babe Rescue Team at March 26, 2011 02:09 PM (G8NKv)
I love chew. Promised me poor sainted mother I'd stay away from the stuff, and I'm sure Mrs. Diversity would have something to say if I started dipping or chewing again. Damn you, Levi Garrett!
Posted by: USS Diversity at March 26, 2011 02:09 PM (gJNMj)
My dad was never very religious. So for him to say that he had told the angel to wait, really brought us comfort. Especially because my dad wasn't good at saying 'white lies' for the benefit of others. If youasked if you looked fat, he'd tall ya: Well, does a hippo look skinny in a tutu? Does Clinton's desk make his under-the-desk-dick-sucker look skinnier?
Posted by: momma at March 26, 2011 02:10 PM (penCf)
Mint Skoal here. Never really liked anything else.
Posted by: Delta Smelt at March 26, 2011 02:11 PM (m1fCS)
Posted by: James Buchanan at March 26, 2011 02:12 PM (FYCiJ)
I'm going to have to correct you people on this idea that Ferraro was the first woman on a national ticket.
I always figured William Rufus King as the female which would have made him 1st. Heh.
Posted by: Delta Smelt at March 26, 2011 02:16 PM (m1fCS)
Posted by: Damiano at March 26, 2011 02:16 PM (3nrx7)
Yes, it was a sad spectacle when this fine lady ran for office. Critics questioned whether a woman could be a homemaker and also a political candidate. But it got worseÂ…..
The ideologues hacked Ferraro’s email account and made all her private correspondence public. They sent dozens of investigators to dig up any dirt they could find on her past. They made her family into the subject of ridicule. They spread lies about affairs and illegitimate children in the most disgraceful manner I remember the telephoto shot of Ferraro’s palm at the debate — some strange, demented attempt to defame this lady on the most dubious of grounds. But the worst was when the hack writer moved in next door to her and tried to spy on her family’s every move….
Oh, whoops, I forgotÂ….Ferraro was a Democrat. So all this must have happened to a different female vice presidential candidate.
Posted by: Fish the Impaler at March 26, 2011 02:18 PM (ZHsNw)
I'm going to have to correct you people on this idea that Ferraro was the first woman on a national ticket.
Well, as far as YOU know.
Posted by: Bracket Hussein Obsama at March 26, 2011 02:19 PM (gJNMj)
You figured wrong, sucker.
Posted by: Jefferson Campaign Flack Feverishly Scribbling Copy for Anti-Adams Broadsides at March 26, 2011 02:21 PM (FYCiJ)
Posted by: Truman North at March 26, 2011 02:23 PM (8ay4x)
Eh, not necessarily. She could have still been a Democrat backbencher in Congress--lots of men with family and business connections end up doing that, and no one ever complains...
Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 26, 2011 02:24 PM (op4Bf)
Posted by: Sarah Palin (TM) Enterprises, LLC at March 26, 2011 02:24 PM (FYCiJ)
: Jefferson Campaign Flack Feverishly Scribbling Copy for Anti-Adams Broadsides
Heh.
Ferraro? I'd hit it.
Too soon?
Posted by: My 1970 Me
Speechless. Only in moronville.
Posted by: Delta Smelt at March 26, 2011 02:25 PM (m1fCS)
I'm going to have to correct you people on this idea that Ferraro was the first woman on a national ticket.
Well, I'm not sure, but I may have the first woman candidate?
Posted by: Thomas Eagleton, Demo VP Nominee (Mental Patient) at March 26, 2011 02:25 PM (ZHsNw)
Posted by: Bracket Hussein Obsama at March 26, 2011 02:26 PM (gJNMj)
Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 26, 2011 02:27 PM (op4Bf)
Posted by: Cicero at March 26, 2011 02:30 PM (0pBLV)
Hell no.
/In fact, at 8:30 pm Eastern Time, I have a load of trash I'm going to burn in honor of Earf Hour,
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at March 26, 2011 02:33 PM (ATsDF)
Just found out today that one of my heroes has been fighting a GBM for over a year now.
Posted by: Gran at March 26, 2011 02:33 PM (kmmbv)
Who said Billy Donovan looks like a grown-up Eddie Munster?
Posted by: USS Diversity at March 26, 2011 02:36 PM (gJNMj)
It will be interesting just how many "friends" dump me- I lost one last year....
Posted by: Museisluse at March 26, 2011 02:41 PM (xrmna)
RIP Geraldine
Posted by: by any other name at March 26, 2011 02:41 PM (H+LJc)
Two years ago, It wasn't until we all gathered around my step dad's death bed and exlpained to him that we could no longer properly care for him (he was in the of end stage of liver cancer) that he passed peacefully that afternoon. After nearly two months in the hospital, there was just no way he was going back. He left on his own terms, the way he led his life; he was a good man.
Heavy duty stuff...life does suck at times.
Posted by: dananjcon at March 26, 2011 02:41 PM (fGCiE)
Posted by: USS Diversity at March 26, 2011 02:44 PM (gJNMj)
Posted by: Lincolntf at March 26, 2011 02:47 PM (xMT+4)
Posted by: Delta Smelt at March 26, 2011 02:48 PM (8keNg)
Surprised the true believers aren't bitching about the carbon footprint of the chartered flights and road trips to games. Get the low-hanging fruit out of the way before tackling the carbon wasted by the Hajj, right?
Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 26, 2011 02:49 PM (op4Bf)
OT question for the musical Morons here. My aunt is giving me a violin that has been in the family for a while and I'm excited to learn a new instrument. I play guitar and I'd describe my skill level as a pretty good rhythm player and a beginner at lead.
So the question is, will that help me in learning violin or is it a completely different animal?
Posted by: ErikW at March 26, 2011 02:50 PM (Vg+Z2)
Posted by: Cicero at March 26, 2011 06:30 PM (0pBLV)
I already have 3 tv's on, lights on in every room (my wife is out of town, I get scared // don't laugh) and the heat is cranked as it is cold as a witches tit here in beautiful Joisey. And I don't have one curley cue bulb in the house, so bite be greenies!!
Posted by: dananjcon at March 26, 2011 02:50 PM (fGCiE)
Posted by: izoneguy at March 26, 2011 02:50 PM (83mM1)
Posted by: Delta Smelt's Neighbors at March 26, 2011 02:51 PM (gJNMj)
OT: Monica Crowley had The 'Stache on today and he said he is still considering a POTUS run. President Bolton. Nice.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at March 26, 2011 02:52 PM (zgZzy)
"FERRARO, Geraldine Anne, a Representative from New York; born in Newburgh, Orange County, N.Y., August 26, 1935; graduated from Marymount School, Tarrytown, N.Y., 1952; B.A., Marymount College, New York, N.Y., 1956; J.D., Fordham University School of Law, New York, N.Y., 1960; lawyer, private practice; assistant district attorney, Queens County, N.Y., 1974-1978; elected as a Democrat to the Ninety-sixth and to the two succeeding Congresses (January 3, 1979-January 3, 1985); was not a candidate for reelection to the Ninety-ninth Congress in 1984, but was the unsuccessful Democratic candidate for Vice President of the United States; fellow of the Institute of Politics, John F. Kennedy School of Government, Harvard University, Cambridge, Mass., 1988-1992; president, International Institute for WomenÂ’s Political Leadership; unsuccessful candidate for nomination to the United States Senate in 1992 and 1998; permanent member, United Nations Commission on Human Rights, 1993-1996; is a resident of Forest Hills, N.Y." link
you know the best thing about her was that she was so down to earth, I know for a fact that her neighbors in Forest Hills genuinely liked her.
Posted by: curious at March 26, 2011 02:54 PM (k1rwm)
Posted by: Delta Smelt at March 26, 2011 02:54 PM (8keNg)
OT: Monica Crowley had The 'Stache on today and he said he is still considering a POTUS run. President Bolton. Nice.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at March 26, 2011 06:52 PM (zgZzy)
That's almost fap worthy. Too bad he'd never get elected.
Posted by: ErikW at March 26, 2011 02:55 PM (Vg+Z2)
I'm willing to settle for Sec of State Bolton. That's my starting position for being wooed by whichever statist squish we end up with for a nominee...
Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 26, 2011 02:55 PM (op4Bf)
That's almost fap worthy. Too bad he'd never get elected
I know. Spent the interview destroying Obama.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at March 26, 2011 02:56 PM (zgZzy)
Posted by: Delta Smelt's Neighbors at March 26, 2011 02:57 PM (gJNMj)
Posted by: Delta Smelt at March 26, 2011 06:48 PM (8keNg)
Eh...maybe you should do us morons a favor and turn those lights off. Other wise, knock your self out kid!
Me? I have a 12 pack of Polish beer, a Domincan Punch cigar and I'm listening to Canadians rockers Evans Blue (don't laugh, they were good w/the old singer )...I love multi- culturism.
Posted by: dananjcon at March 26, 2011 02:57 PM (fGCiE)
oh, only two.
Like Heather said, Bolton as Sec State would be outstanding for obvious reasons. If the presidential field is full of retreads and dullards, I wouldn't mind seeing him mix it up in the primaries though.
Butler wins!
Posted by: Delta Smelt at March 26, 2011 03:00 PM (8keNg)
I ain't gonna wait, no sir.
I mean, first, I'm not usually that polite. Second, I'm really really fkn curious as to what's on the Other Side. Even if its Nothing.
Posted by: 7 Chinese Spammers at March 26, 2011 03:00 PM (SMqnS)
Posted by: USS Diversity at March 26, 2011 03:00 PM (gJNMj)
Posted by: Delta Smelt at March 26, 2011 06:54 PM (8keNg)
What? Bolten as President or you watching porn with the lights out??
Posted by: dananjcon at March 26, 2011 03:01 PM (fGCiE)
Posted by: dananjcon at March 26, 2011 03:04 PM (fGCiE)
Posted by: eman: Japanese Babe Rescue Team at March 26, 2011 03:08 PM (G8NKv)
Except for skin color, Obama was just a less-experienced John Edwards.
Posted by: nickless at March 26, 2011 03:08 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: eman: Japanese Babe Rescue Team at March 26, 2011 03:11 PM (G8NKv)
If you are not past the "bleeding fingers" stage of guitar yet, consider tuning your violin a little on the slack side so you won't cut yourself.
Look up "rubato" and let it be your friend. From a fretsman's point of view, there isn't a fiddler in the world who hits a note honest and simple. They just wiggle all around it and let your ear pick out what it wants to hear. You can get to be pretty damn good at picking out tunes on the violin and still sound amateurish to most if you don't master that damn Parkinson's technique.
Posted by: comatus at March 26, 2011 03:13 PM (W5ilH)
Posted by: gesc at March 26, 2011 03:13 PM (FZAKH)
Stevie Winwood?
He was banned from iTunes.
Posted by: Dave in Texas at March 26, 2011 07:08 PM (Wh0W+)
Eh...don't think so, I just down loaded "While You See a Chance" last week. Unless you're just being a ball ballbreaker, then, well screw you Dave. He was better than perrenial Texas rockers- friggin ZZ-Top!
Posted by: dananjcon at March 26, 2011 03:15 PM (fGCiE)
Posted by: gesc at March 26, 2011 07:13 PM (FZAKH)
Me too, friggin song is only availailable on a whole album on I-Tunes...12.99!
Posted by: dananjcon at March 26, 2011 03:18 PM (fGCiE)
Except for skin color, Obama was just a less-experienced John Edwards.
Hey, hey, hey! I don't like girls!
Posted by: King Baracky I at March 26, 2011 03:19 PM (zgZzy)
At pajamasmedia dot com there is a story of Biden folks imprisoning a reporter in a closet during a big bucks fundraiser.
Too lazy to link.
Not confirmed yet either.
Posted by: eman: Japanese Babe Rescue Team at March 26, 2011 07:08 PM (G8NKv)
Meh..they are probably playing naked beer pong too. (Not that there is anything wrong with that) But he does have the greatest nation in the world to run and trains to get to thre destination on time.
Posted by: dananjcon at March 26, 2011 03:21 PM (fGCiE)
Posted by: eman: Japanese Babe Rescue Team at March 26, 2011 03:23 PM (G8NKv)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at March 26, 2011 03:24 PM (mHQ7T)
Posted by: eman: Japanese Babe Rescue Team at March 26, 2011 07:23 PM (G8NKv
I'm holding my breath, send an amber lamps!
Posted by: dananjcon at March 26, 2011 03:25 PM (fGCiE)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at March 26, 2011 03:26 PM (mHQ7T)
Posted by: comatus at March 26, 2011 07:13 PM (W5ilH)
I have a pretty good ear for tone so I'm not too worried about that. I read a bit on tuning a violin to EADG and I was wondering if that's the same as guitar minus the BE. If that's the case, I'll be good to go.
Besides, my aim for violin is more towards country fiddlin'!
Posted by: ErikW at March 26, 2011 03:28 PM (Vg+Z2)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at March 26, 2011 07:24 PM (mHQ7T)
My grandmother passed just after telling us that J-R was gonna be shot. The old bird didn't even spill her whiskey sour.
Posted by: dananjcon at March 26, 2011 03:28 PM (fGCiE)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at March 26, 2011 03:33 PM (mHQ7T)
P.S. Fuck the Gaytors.
Posted by: logprof at March 26, 2011 03:33 PM (BP6Z1)
Bite your tongue! Cheap Sunglasses v Higher Love?
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at March 26, 2011 07:26 PM (mHQ7T)
Yes, sorry. But always thought they were contribed and phoney. When they were big, AC-DC was their pappy and I was never a big fan of AC-DC either. 80's Shlock rock fer sure. Now lets discuss Clutch...they are ths shizz-nit, as the kids say.
Posted by: dananjcon at March 26, 2011 03:35 PM (fGCiE)
Posted by: Museisluse at March 26, 2011 03:36 PM (xrmna)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at March 26, 2011 07:33 PM (mHQ7T)
Sounds like a good hangover cure.
Posted by: dananjcon at March 26, 2011 03:37 PM (fGCiE)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at March 26, 2011 03:38 PM (mHQ7T)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at March 26, 2011 03:40 PM (mHQ7T)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at March 26, 2011 07:38 PM (mHQ7T)
Oh dear, please don't say you liked Poison.
Posted by: dananjcon at March 26, 2011 03:40 PM (fGCiE)
My Mom did the same thing. At 54 she was dying of MS and had been in the hospital for almost a year, had pneumonia twice. MS had affected her brain and she no longer responded to any of us.
I was in Massachusetts on business and my boss got a call from my Dad to tell her that I should come home and quickly. Martha said nothing to me, just that we needed to get back to the office in Connecticut. Once there she told me that my Dad had called and I made a beeline for UCONN Med. Ctr.
I got there, my Sister, Grandmother and Father were waiting and within three minutes she was gone. I always knew she waited for me, her oldest daughter.
My prayers go out to the Ferraro family. I know how important it is to say goodbye.
Posted by: Jaimo at March 26, 2011 03:41 PM (cjaco)
Posted by: Oklahoman at March 26, 2011 03:42 PM (EC/Nc)
My problem with ZZ Top is that they didn't have a "sound."
Not that they weren't talented but if they picked up their instruments and played some random shit you wouldn't know who it came from.
Posted by: ErikW at March 26, 2011 03:43 PM (Vg+Z2)
Oh dear, please don't say you liked Poison.
I'll bet he watched all the episodes of Rock of Love,
.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at March 26, 2011 03:43 PM (ATsDF)
Geraldine Ferraro: Just another liberal, leftist douche. She may have been a good mother/grandmother/wife, but as a politician, she was just as bad as Bill and Hillary. And I might add, comes in very close to being like Barky.
Posted by: Soona at March 26, 2011 03:44 PM (r79ss)
*cough* youtube to mp3 *cough*
Posted by: name changed to protect my ass at March 26, 2011 03:45 PM (9RFH1)
Posted by: booger at March 26, 2011 03:48 PM (9RFH1)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at March 26, 2011 03:49 PM (mHQ7T)
*cough* youtube to mp3 *cough*
Posted by: name changed to protect my ass at March 26, 2011 07:45 PM (9RFH1)
Ahem**thanks**cough**cuogh**
Posted by: I don't know nuttin...yo at March 26, 2011 03:49 PM (fGCiE)
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at March 26, 2011 03:51 PM (ATsDF)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at March 26, 2011 03:51 PM (mHQ7T)
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at March 26, 2011 07:51 PM (ATsDF
Oh shit!..Hold on Kratos, I think my blender is off...
Posted by: dananjcon at March 26, 2011 03:53 PM (fGCiE)
It's funny, until I read I never thought of the liberal rational for intervening there as just the other side of the neo-con coin.
Posted by: logprof at March 26, 2011 03:53 PM (BP6Z1)
Posted by: booger at March 26, 2011 07:48 PM (9RFH1)
Well said. I'm a product of the 80's so naturally I tend towards that but as you kinda said, music is fucking garbage nowadays.
To me, music died in the mid 90's.
Posted by: ErikW at March 26, 2011 03:53 PM (Vg+Z2)
Posted by: Ian S. at March 26, 2011 03:55 PM (cd11S)
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at March 26, 2011 07:51 PM (ATsDF
Oh shit!..Hold on Kratos, I think my blender is off...
Posted by: dananjcon at March 26, 2011 07:53 PM (fGCiE)
All lights on here too.... going to go fill my SUV up... and maybe leave it running.I will also be feeding beans to various cows.
Posted by: Jackwagon at March 26, 2011 07:53 PM (qjUnn)
Buncha tree-hugging pansies. I'm having a tire-burning party in my front yard.
Posted by: FUBAR at March 26, 2011 03:56 PM (McG46)
Posted by: Cicero at March 26, 2011 03:56 PM (0pBLV)
And for Earth hour I'm going to just let my truck idle. I spent 60 bucks today to fill my tank to the halfway mark.
I'm dedicating my carbon output to feeding all the hungry plant life out there.
Posted by: ErikW at March 26, 2011 03:57 PM (Vg+Z2)
Posted by: Jackwagon at March 26, 2011 07:53 PM (qjUnn)
Roger that. I just fed my dog a can of corn beef hash, I don't think my wife will be happy but its fucking cold here in Jersey, I want me some global warmig. I need to play some golf!!
Posted by: dananjcon at March 26, 2011 03:58 PM (fGCiE)
I'm dedicating my carbon output to feeding all the hungry plant life out there.
Posted by: ErikW at March 26, 2011 07:57 PM (Vg+Z2)
I love pointing out to lefties that the reason why so many starving people in so many poor countries get any food at all is because crop yields have increased somewhere around 15% thanks to increased (eeeevil) CO2 in the atmosphere.
Just one more of life's little ironies.
Posted by: FUBAR at March 26, 2011 03:59 PM (McG46)
To anyone with intact hearing.
I was trying to come up with some songs from 1996-1998 to commemorate my return to Indianapolis, and everything is crap. I ended up with a Cure song from the X-Files soundtrack and "Hero of the Day", 'cause I saw Metallica there in 1997. But those are pretty much 80s bands still putting stuff out at that time.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 26, 2011 04:00 PM (op4Bf)
Posted by: Ohio Dan at March 26, 2011 04:01 PM (2o7Ys)
Depends on your time zone, doesn't it? Not much point in turning off the lightsat 5:30 during DST.
I'm going out for dinner, but I'll be leaving the lights on. And the cats will want to listen to the Sirius.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 26, 2011 04:01 PM (op4Bf)
Posted by: Ian S. at March 26, 2011 07:55 PM (cd11S)
I bet he had his ass paddled too. All while sayin "thank you father may I have another"
Posted by: dananjcon at March 26, 2011 04:02 PM (fGCiE)
'Brain waste' thwarts immigrants' career dreams
Most of these immigrants wind up underemployed because of barriers like language, lack of access to job networks, or credentialing requirements that are different from those in other countries. Some are held back even further because they're also in the U.S. illegally.
I'm shocked!
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at March 26, 2011 04:04 PM (ATsDF)
Scranton Syndrome.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 26, 2011 04:05 PM (op4Bf)
Oh come on. Amy Winehouse has made really good music, even if she is a horrible person. And who can forget "Peace Prize" by Steven Crowder? I've been listening lately to commemorate the Abrupt Kinetic Action.
Posted by: FUBAR at March 26, 2011 04:05 PM (McG46)
Posted by: booger at March 26, 2011 08:00 PM (9RFH1)
Just to be an asshole, I used to tell my grunge rocker buddies that Kurt Cobain did the music world a favor when he put that shotgun in his mouth.
Posted by: ErikW at March 26, 2011 04:07 PM (Vg+Z2)
Yep, grunge seems to have been rock's last gasp.
Posted by: booger at March 26, 2011 08:00 PM (9RFH1
You guys aren't listening close enough. Get sattelite radio if you don't already have it. Sirius has a station called Octane that plays allotta good new bands.
Posted by: dananjcon at March 26, 2011 04:07 PM (fGCiE)
Just to be an asshole, I used to tell my grunge rocker buddies that Kurt Cobain did the music world a favor when he put that shotgun in his mouth.
Posted by: ErikW at March 26, 2011 08:07 PM (Vg+Z2)
Was never a big Nirvana fan. In fact I think the best thing he did for his career was off himself, otherwise-they (nirana) would have been just another GNR from the same error. Death immortalizes otherwise average artists (see Michael Jackson, John Lennon, Elvis)
Posted by: dananjcon at March 26, 2011 04:14 PM (fGCiE)
I say that all the time on the basis that the first two Foo Fighters albums were better than a good chunk of Nirvana's output. (This is balanced out by the part where Kurt's suicide caused us all to be subjected to Hole).
Posted by: Ian S. at March 26, 2011 04:18 PM (cd11S)
It's good to see North Korea commemorating Urf Hour. As for any satellites making a pass over the Meanie household, I've reenacted Griswold Christmas.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at March 26, 2011 04:19 PM (DPM1U)
Posted by: dananjcon at March 26, 2011 08:14 PM (fGCiE)
If you'd've said Janis Joplin, I'd've agreed. Sure you aren't letting stuff other than musical talent affect your judgment?
Posted by: FUBAR at March 26, 2011 04:20 PM (McG46)
Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 26, 2011 08:17 PM (op4Bf)
The only thing that wasn't average about Elvis was his sequence jump suits and his very young wife. And for that I give him Kudos.
Posted by: dananjcon at March 26, 2011 04:20 PM (fGCiE)
On second thought, I'm just going to switch off my GE appliances for Urf Hour.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at March 26, 2011 04:22 PM (DPM1U)
Posted by: eman: Japanese Babe Rescue Team at March 26, 2011 04:24 PM (G8NKv)
Posted by: dananjcon at March 26, 2011 08:14 PM (fGCiE)
Regardless of how you feel about Michael Jackson, you have to admit that he was an exceptional artist. Same with Elvis, he shaped the modern era of rock and roll.
John Lennon was a fucking douchebag and The Beatles weren't that impressive either.
Posted by: ErikW at March 26, 2011 04:25 PM (Vg+Z2)
John Lennon was a fucking douchebag and The Beatles weren't that impressive either.
Posted by: ErikW at March 26, 2011 08:25 PM (Vg+Z2)
Lennon was a douchebag, but The Beatles were that impressive.
Posted by: FUBAR at March 26, 2011 04:27 PM (McG46)
Posted by: Joe Biden at March 26, 2011 04:28 PM (cd11S)
Posted by: dananjcon at March 26, 2011 08:14 PM (fGCiE)
If you'd've said Janis Joplin, I'd've agreed. Sure you aren't letting stuff other than musical talent affect your judgment?
Posted by: FUBAR at March 26, 2011 08:20 PM (McG46)
No, maybe its my age. I just turned forty, so maybe I don't appreciate Elvis and Lennon like others here (yu ol' bastards) and Joplin is just another example of my point. I'm more impressed with the Stones and Aerosmith, even though I'm not big fans. They are/were just as bad addicts as the former but still kept it together (pay no mind to Keith Richards, he a zombie he don't count)
Posted by: dananjcon at March 26, 2011 04:30 PM (fGCiE)
Posted by: Barbarian at March 26, 2011 08:28 PM (EL+OC)
Each one's punishment is to have sex with the other one for all eternity.
Posted by: FUBAR at March 26, 2011 04:30 PM (McG46)
She died about 30 seconds later, maybe a minute after I entered the room.
Posted by: Kensington at March 26, 2011 04:31 PM (mEyVv)
Lennon was a douchebag, but The Beatles were that impressive.
Posted by: FUBAR at March 26, 2011 08:27 PM (McG46)
I'm biased because drug addled, non-sensical lyrics don't do anything for me. That's why I can't stand The Beatles.
Posted by: ErikW at March 26, 2011 04:32 PM (Vg+Z2)
No, maybe its my age. I just turned forty, so maybe I don't appreciate Elvis and Lennon like others here (yu ol' bastards) and Joplin is just another example of my point. I'm more impressed with the Stones and Aerosmith, even though I'm not big fans. They are/were just as bad addicts as the former but still kept it together (pay no mind to Keith Richards, he a zombie he don't count)
Posted by: dananjcon at March 26, 2011 08:30 PM (fGCiE)
I'm 40, you whippersnapper. And The Beatles weren't drug addicts. Maybe a little when they were slumming in Germany.
Posted by: FUBAR at March 26, 2011 04:34 PM (McG46)
Posted by: eman: Japanese Babe Rescue Team at March 26, 2011 04:34 PM (G8NKv)
Regardless of how you feel about Michael Jackson, you have to admit that he was an exceptional artist. Same with Elvis, he shaped the modern era of rock and roll.
Meh...I lean more towards the hippies of the Mamas and the Pappas, Crosby Stills and Nash and the rythem and blues bands like the Yardbirds/Zeppelin.
Posted by: dananjcon at March 26, 2011 04:35 PM (fGCiE)
I'm biased because drug addled, non-sensical lyrics don't do anything for me. That's why I can't stand The Beatles.
Posted by: ErikW at March 26, 2011 08:32 PM (Vg+Z2)
They also had a perfectly lucid teeny-bopper phase that was moderately successful. The most popular band in the history of bands. Come on, people.
Posted by: FUBAR at March 26, 2011 04:36 PM (McG46)
Posted by: eman: Japanese Babe Rescue Team at March 26, 2011 04:36 PM (G8NKv)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at March 26, 2011 04:36 PM (mHQ7T)
I'm 40, you whippersnapper. And The Beatles weren't drug addicts. Maybe a little when they were slumming in Germany.
Posted by: FUBAR at March 26, 2011 08:34 PM (McG46)
Eh.?..Lucy in the Sky with Damonds? Yellow Submarine?
Posted by: dananjcon at March 26, 2011 04:37 PM (fGCiE)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at March 26, 2011 08:36 PM (mHQ7T)
Run current through a honey badger and you get the same noise. Studio recordings weren't quite as painful, but the live stuff was unbearable. Meanwhile, each Beatle went on to have a successful solo career. Even the drummer, for feck's sake.
Posted by: FUBAR at March 26, 2011 04:39 PM (McG46)
I'm not even going to get involved in music talk, nope...going to stay out of that. I AM a whippersnapper.
Oh, R.I.P
Posted by: Crazee at March 26, 2011 04:41 PM (xsoRi)
Eh.?..Lucy in the Sky with Damonds? Yellow Submarine?
Posted by: dananjcon at March 26, 2011 08:37 PM (fGCiE)
I'm not saying they didn't take drugs, I'm saying it never rose to the level of addiction. Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds was his kid's drawing. And even if it was LSD, it ain't addictive. Wasn't aware that Yellow Submarine had any drug connotations. Do tell.
Posted by: FUBAR at March 26, 2011 04:41 PM (McG46)
They also had a perfectly lucid teeny-bopper phase that was moderately successful. The most popular band in the history of bands. Come on, people.
Posted by: FUBAR at March 26, 2011 08:36 PM (McG46)
So? A large fan base doesn't mean the music is any good.
Miley Cyrus sells out everywhere she goes.
Point is, The Beatles suck, in my opinion.
Posted by: ErikW at March 26, 2011 04:42 PM (Vg+Z2)
Run current through a honey badger and you get the same noise. Studio recordings weren't quite as painful, but the live stuff was unbearable. Meanwhile, each Beatle went on to have a successful solo career. Even the drummer, for feck's sake.
Posted by: FUBAR at March 26, 2011 08:39 PM (McG46)
I would like to go on record and say that Ringo is my favorite Beatle. Like Honey Badger, he don't/didn't give a shit.
Posted by: dananjcon at March 26, 2011 04:42 PM (fGCiE)
Oh, R.I.P
Posted by: Crazee at March 26, 2011 08:41 PM (xsoRi)
Wise beyond your years, young Paduwan.
Posted by: FUBAR at March 26, 2011 04:43 PM (McG46)
Posted by: Crazee at March 26, 2011 04:44 PM (xsoRi)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at March 26, 2011 04:46 PM (mHQ7T)
Rhythm is really kind of a simple word to use. There are two syllables (little bites of sound), and there's an H in the middle of each one. You never mix it up with another word that way. Not having rhythm is a burden one must bear, but not spelling it is an affront to the western world.
If you early Zeppelin, you're likely to get into the 70's albums of Steeleye Span. Revolutionary bass lines, surprising use of instruments, and blow-you-away source material.
Posted by: comatus at March 26, 2011 04:46 PM (W5ilH)
I only listen to video game soundtracks.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at March 26, 2011 04:47 PM (ATsDF)
Miley Cyrus sells out everywhere she goes.
Point is, The Beatles suck, in my opinion.
Posted by: ErikW at March 26, 2011 08:42 PM (Vg+Z2)
Yeah, the world has more disposable income now. And the Beatles did it for longer. And she ain't selling out now that she's gone all Lindsay Lohan.
You're entitled to your opinion, of course. It's just hard to find anything objective to back it up. Wildly successful, as a group and individually, wide variety of sounds, and have been copied ever since. Oh, and McCartney played guitar upside-down. A lil respect, please.
Posted by: FUBAR at March 26, 2011 04:47 PM (McG46)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at March 26, 2011 04:47 PM (mHQ7T)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at March 26, 2011 04:50 PM (mHQ7T)
Posted by: comatus at March 26, 2011 04:50 PM (W5ilH)
I'm not saying they didn't take drugs, I'm saying it never rose to the level of addiction. Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds was his kid's drawing. And even if it was LSD, it ain't addictive. Wasn't aware that Yellow Submarine had any drug connotations. Do tell.
Posted by: FUBAR at March 26, 2011 08:41 PM (McG46
IMO to wright these songs, they had to be on drugs. I don't buy the the kids drawing story. And Yellow Submarine just blows, I remember watching some sort of video on Zoom Zoom when I was 5(I think?)...thought it sucked then, I think it sucks now. Don't care if they were tripping, drunk or stoned...or all of the above. I just never was fan.
Posted by: dananjcon at March 26, 2011 04:50 PM (fGCiE)
Never heard of 'em. Steeleye Span, that is. I thought you were goofing on Steely Dan til I looked it up. Steely Dan rules, by the way.
Posted by: FUBAR at March 26, 2011 04:50 PM (McG46)
Posted by: comatus at March 26, 2011 04:52 PM (W5ilH)
Posted by: comatus at March 26, 2011 08:46 PM (W5ilH)
I assume you meant me and not dan.
My point was that Elvis helped bring together "white" music and "black "music into a more cohesive form that the broader listenership would accept.
Posted by: ErikW at March 26, 2011 04:53 PM (Vg+Z2)
Posted by: steevy at March 26, 2011 04:55 PM (klxsb)
Listening to Video Game soundtracks is probably better than listening to TV show theme songs...
So...how about commercial tunes?
Posted by: Crazee at March 26, 2011 04:55 PM (xsoRi)
IMO to wright these songs, they had to be on drugs. I don't buy the the kids drawing story. And Yellow Submarine just blows, I remember watching some sort of video on Zoom Zoom when I was 5(I think?)...thought it sucked then, I think it sucks now. Don't care if they were tripping, drunk or stoned...or all of the above. I just never was fan.
Posted by: dananjcon at March 26, 2011 08:50 PM (fGCiE)
Of course drugs influenced them. Thank God. What do you listen to, Christian rock? Don't try to tell me it's creative. Do you really want me to believe that a 5 year old kid didn't like a cartoon of a goofy yellow submarine and the zany antics of its kooky owners? I don't. Even if you don't like it, could you at least throw me a bone and tell me that it's original and creative - that's my attitude toward Metallica. I mean, compared to the vast majority of bands who have exactly one 'sound,' they had tons of sounds.
Posted by: FUBAR at March 26, 2011 04:56 PM (McG46)
Posted by: booger at March 26, 2011 04:58 PM (9RFH1)
If you early Zeppelin, you're likely to get into the 70's albums of Steeleye Span. Revolutionary bass lines, surprising use of instruments, and blow-you-away source material.
Posted by: comatus at March 26, 2011 08:46 PM (W5ilH)
Really?? You're gonna break my balls about spelling on a saturday night?? Regradless, I'm a big Steely fan an am listening to early Bee Gee's (I starterd a joke) as we speak.
Posted by: dananjcon at March 26, 2011 04:58 PM (fGCiE)
Don't hear that many as I don't watch much TV anymore.
It's amazing how the ambient music in video games has advanced from the simple, MIDI synthesizer-generated riffs to soundtracks generated by full orchestras costing millions of dollars to produce.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at March 26, 2011 05:00 PM (ATsDF)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at March 26, 2011 05:00 PM (mHQ7T)
Posted by: NortonPete at March 26, 2011 05:01 PM (fVuwW)
Posted by: FUBAR at March 26, 2011 05:02 PM (McG46)
You're entitled to your opinion, of course. It's just hard to find anything objective to back it up. Wildly successful, as a group and individually, wide variety of sounds, and have been copied ever since. Oh, and McCartney played guitar upside-down. A lil respect, please.
Posted by: FUBAR at March 26, 2011 08:47 PM (McG46)
I respect them for their talent and influence on music, I just think they're highly overrated.
Posted by: ErikW at March 26, 2011 05:03 PM (Vg+Z2)
Of course drugs influenced them. Thank God. What do you listen to, Christian rock? Don't try to tell me it's creative. Do you really want me to believe that a 5 year old kid didn't like a cartoon of a goofy yellow submarine and the zany antics of its kooky owners? I don't. Even if you don't like it, could you at least throw me a bone and tell me that it's original and creative - that's my attitude toward Metallica. I mean, compared to the vast majority of bands who have exactly one 'sound,' they had tons of sounds.
Posted by: FUBAR at March 26, 2011 08:56 PM (McG46)
Actually, I am a big LIVE fan, but its not easy to peg them as a Christian band. Growing up in the 80's my prejudices do lean towards heavy metal. Hey, I've been in bands and can appreciate creativity and I know how hard it is to do something original...I just never understood the Beatles thing but give me some Zeppelin and Sabbath any time!
Posted by: dananjcon at March 26, 2011 05:04 PM (fGCiE)
Not even close.
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at March 26, 2011 09:00 PM (mHQ7T)
Never cared for any of it either, post-Beatles, but they all sold records.
Posted by: FUBAR at March 26, 2011 05:04 PM (McG46)
So...how about commercial tunes?
Posted by: Crazee at March 26, 2011 08:55 PM (xsoRi)
Heh. I had just put in the ONT some links to the Original Score for BSG. It's actually quite good.
Posted by: CDR M at March 26, 2011 05:05 PM (cqZXM)
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at March 26, 2011 09:00 PM (ATsDF)
True. They even got Hans Zimmer to do Modern Warfare 2 which wasn't bad.
Posted by: CDR M at March 26, 2011 05:05 PM (y67bA)
Heh, i remember that. It's hard for me to take their lefty political nonsense seriously after they fled their country to avoid paying taxes.
Posted by: booger at March 26, 2011 05:06 PM (9RFH1)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at March 26, 2011 05:07 PM (mHQ7T)
I respect them for their talent and influence on music, I just think they're highly overrated.
Posted by: ErikW at March 26, 2011 09:03 PM (Vg+Z2)
I suppose I can settle for this.
Sabbath any time!
Posted by: dananjcon at March 26, 2011 09:04 PM (fGCiE)
Oh man. I'm starting to see the vaast gulf that lies between us.
Posted by: FUBAR at March 26, 2011 05:07 PM (McG46)
Posted by: FUBAR at March 26, 2011 08:56 PM (McG46)
Not really. You have James Hetfield and Kirk Hammett doing their thang every song. That's the "sound."
Posted by: ErikW at March 26, 2011 05:09 PM (Vg+Z2)
Oh man. I'm starting to see the vaast gulf that lies between us.
Posted by: FUBAR at March 26, 2011 09:07 PM (McG46)
Could be worse....you could be a libtard.
Posted by: dananjcon at March 26, 2011 05:10 PM (fGCiE)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at March 26, 2011 05:11 PM (mHQ7T)
a person hanging on until all of their loved ones are close
25 years ago, my dad was in a coma and dying in central Missouri. I was living in Southern Arkansas. I drove to the hospital where he was to see him and he died one hour after I arrived.
Posted by: katya, the designated driver at March 26, 2011 05:12 PM (MEEC/)
The EADG tuning on a fiddle is backwards from a guitar. It is tuned in sevenths not fifths. The G is your lowest note. A mandolin is tuned the same as a fiddle so if you learn the neck on it first you'll have a bit better grasp of a violin.
Posted by: Crom at March 26, 2011 05:12 PM (6j029)
Not really. You have James Hetfield and Kirk Hammett doing their thang every song. That's the "sound."
Posted by: ErikW at March 26, 2011 09:09 PM (Vg+Z2)
Like all bands...they jumped the shark; in Mettalica's case, starting with the Black album.
Posted by: dananjcon at March 26, 2011 05:13 PM (fGCiE)
My grandmother was dying in a hospital (pancreatic cancer) and my mother drove from Texas to Arkansas to be with her. She hung on until my mother got there (and said so), then died shortly after.
Posted by: Alana at March 26, 2011 05:14 PM (/N/wg)
a person hanging on until all of their loved ones are close
25 years ago, my dad was in a coma and dying in central Missouri. I was living in Southern Arkansas. I drove to the hospital where he was to see him and he died one hour after I arrived.
Posted by: katya, the designated driver at March 26, 2011 09:12 PM (MEEC/)
Peace be with him.
Posted by: dananjcon at March 26, 2011 05:15 PM (fGCiE)
Neither can almost 55 million views.
Fryday.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at March 26, 2011 05:17 PM (ATsDF)
a person hanging on until all of their loved ones are close
25 years ago, my dad was in a coma and dying in central Missouri. I was living in Southern Arkansas. I drove to the hospital where he was to see him and he died one hour after I arrived.
Posted by: katya, the designated driver at March 26, 2011 09:12 PM (MEEC/)
Peace be with him.
Posted by: dananjcon at March 26, 2011 09:15 PM (fGCiE)
232 Mmmmmm...Polish beer good-ski.Posted by: dananjcon at March 26, 2011 09:16 PM (fGCiE)
Yeah, that was tacky, sorry-I am a moron.
Posted by: dananjcon at March 26, 2011 05:18 PM (fGCiE)
Posted by: eman: Japanese Babe Rescue Team at March 26, 2011 05:19 PM (G8NKv)
Fryday.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at March 26, 2011 09:17 PM (ATsDF)
We so excited!
Posted by: booger at March 26, 2011 05:19 PM (9RFH1)
Posted by: booger at March 26, 2011 05:21 PM (9RFH1)
Posted by: Crom at March 26, 2011 09:12 PM (6j029)
That's the kinda shit that will fuck me up.
Is there anything preventing me from stringing the violin backwards?
I keed, in a frustrated way
Posted by: ErikW at March 26, 2011 05:21 PM (Vg+Z2)
Posted by: booger at March 26, 2011 09:14 PM
Sure they can. People's bad taste in music is legendary.
Posted by: huerfano at March 26, 2011 05:25 PM (2pEj7)
Posted by: Crom at March 26, 2011 05:25 PM (6j029)
Posted by: dananjcon at March 26, 2011 05:26 PM (fGCiE)
Oh yes. Their sound did evolve. Mostly Hetfield insisted on trying to become a singer and effed it all up.
Metallica the drunken = kickass
Metallica the navel gazing and pretentious = lameass
Posted by: kdny at March 26, 2011 05:27 PM (3j6OS)
Not really. You have James Hetfield and Kirk Hammett doing their thang every song. That's the "sound."
Posted by: ErikW at March 26, 2011 09:09 PM (Vg+Z2)
I knew I was unclear. I meant I can appreciate what Metallica did back when they were good, even though it's not my thing. It's the Beatles that have a shitload of varied sounds, not Metallica.
Posted by: FUBAR at March 26, 2011 05:27 PM (McG46)
My dad had a silent fart that penetrated steel walls.
Rest his soul.
Posted by: Beto at March 26, 2011 05:28 PM (H+LJc)
Posted by: booger at March 26, 2011 05:30 PM (9RFH1)
Heh, knew i shouldn't have clicked that.
Posted by: booger at March 26, 2011 05:31 PM (9RFH1)
Oh yes. Their sound did evolve. Mostly Hetfield insisted on trying to become a singer and effed it all up.
Metallica the drunken = kickass
Metallica the navel gazing and pretentious = lameass
Posted by: kdny at March 26, 2011 09:27 PM (3j6OS)
Tru dat...after watching the docu-DRAMA; Some Kind of Monster...I thought,"what a bunch of pussies." Very disappointing.
Posted by: dananjcon at March 26, 2011 05:31 PM (fGCiE)
Posted by: booger at March 26, 2011 09:30 PM (9RFH1)
Agreed it was a very frenetic album but the best song off that album i would say is Dyers Eve. Very Heavy.
Posted by: dananjcon at March 26, 2011 05:35 PM (fGCiE)
Heh, knew i shouldn't have clicked that.
Posted by: booger at March 26, 2011 09:31 PM (9RFH1)
I refuse to let you Rick roll me!! (yeah you did it) FUCK! Need some Slayer to cleanse the pallet.
Posted by: dananjcon at March 26, 2011 05:38 PM (fGCiE)
Posted by: FUBAR at March 26, 2011 09:27 PM (McG46)
That's not necessarily a good thing, though. Music fans want a band they can connect with, not some wild, unpredictable group. The only reason The Beatles were successful is because they dropped in during the 60's revolution when everyone was fucked up on hallucinogens.
Posted by: ErikW at March 26, 2011 05:39 PM (Vg+Z2)
I'd argue with you. But at the very least, it proves how good they were, that they could not only make different sounds, but have them all be successful.
The only reason The Beatles were successful is because they dropped in during the 60's revolution when everyone was fucked up on hallucinogens.
Posted by: ErikW at March 26, 2011 09:39 PM (Vg+Z2)
They dropped in before the 60s revolution and were popular playing teeny-bop. Then did the revolution and were popular. I agree being in sync with the times helped, as it helps everyone who is. But they were also great musicians and ridiculously creative. Nobody has to like 'em, but honest people will at least admit they were something special.
Posted by: FUBAR at March 26, 2011 05:47 PM (McG46)
The Beatles success was due to raw talent and originality. They built a loyal following from playing small clubs. They worked for it . Here live in 65 they are playing in Shay stadium a first for any rock band that is to fill a stadium! I think the screaming girls speak for the popularity of the band. It wasn't until the band exausted the conventional format of the songs of the day that they started to experiment with different sounds and by that time they had the whole world listening.
Posted by: sonnyspats at March 26, 2011 05:49 PM (oNphh)
Posted by: kdny at March 26, 2011 05:57 PM (3j6OS)
1.) Music is a personal taste; one man's nectar of the Gods is another man's piss.
2.) The Beatles changed rock and roll in a way you will never understand because (a.) I suspect you don't care to, and (b.) you weren't alive to witness what really happened.
I was. Before the Beatles, rock bands were mostly pleasingly bland white folk in matching suits, with short haircuts. Elvis was considered an outlaw because he would swing his hips in a way we think is tame now, but was revolutionary then.
The Beatles, after a seasoning period in the port city bars of northern Germany, positively exploded on the British and American music scenes. This was in 1963 and 1964 - well before the drug scene caught hold. They were a teenybopper group at first, and then simply overwhelmed the "rock scene" of the time. Their chord arrangements were different, George Martin helped their overall musical arrangements to be different, and they simply blew every other act out there out of the water.
Yes, by 1969, they were producing silly, drug-addled music - like Zeppelin, the Grateful Dead, and everyone else, but to say they "dropped in during the 60's revolution when everyone was fucked up on hallucinogens." is a serious oversimplification not worthy of this smart music blog.
It is probable better to simply grant that everyone's taste is subjective, and no one will ever be able to really determine what music is better than all others. Except for me, of course.
Have a good night.
Posted by: Josef K. at March 26, 2011 05:59 PM (7+pP9)
Posted by: FUBAR at March 26, 2011 09:47 PM (McG46)
I can't go there with you. Yeah they were different which that in itself made an impact but something special? No.
We can disagree on this one, friend.
Posted by: ErikW at March 26, 2011 06:02 PM (Vg+Z2)
Posted by: Northernlurker at March 26, 2011 06:13 PM (KmWTt)
Fair enough and I stand corrected.
Posted by: ErikW at March 26, 2011 10:09 PM (Vg+Z2)
Very gentlemanly of you, and I apologize for sounding pedantic. So can we talk about guns and boobies now?
Posted by: Josef K. at March 26, 2011 06:19 PM (7+pP9)
Very gentlemanly of you, and I apologize for sounding pedantic. So can we talk about guns and boobies now?
Posted by: Josef K. at March 26, 2011 10:19 PM (7+pP9)
Full speed ahead! I don't know shit about guns but I do like me some boobies!
Posted by: ErikW at March 26, 2011 06:24 PM (Vg+Z2)
Happens often enough that I think it no coincidence.
Posted by: Unclefacts Luxury-Yacht at March 26, 2011 06:24 PM (6IReR)
Full speed ahead! I don't know shit about guns but I do like me some boobies!
Posted by: ErikW at March 26, 2011 10:24 PM (Vg+Z2)
ONT is up now. Fertile ground for boobietalk, if you ask me.
Posted by: Josef K. at March 26, 2011 06:26 PM (7+pP9)
"Heh" to Erik.
You obviously have confused Lennon the "douchebag" with Lennon the songwriter.
My kids, now into their early 20's, both know dozens of Beatles songs by heart, and can play the songs on guitar and keyboard.
We played the old tunes, they did the rest.
One is now a professional musician, and the other wishes he were.
We know dozens of other kids who also love the Beatles.
If you are so tone-deaf and clueless as to NOT understand why the Beatles still appeal to millions today, I suggest you burn your comb kazoo, put your Kanye West "douchbag" lyrics into the microwave, then kill yourself with a rusty old clam knife.
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This is something that I've witnessed in my life, a person hanging on until all of their loved ones are close, just to say goodbye in that way.
So did my dad though he still refused to go when we were all around and did so the one moment none of us were there. I keep thinking that he wanted to spare us that wrenching moment.
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Anecdotal evidence throughout recorded history indicates that humans, for whatever reason, seem to have the ability to stave off death and/or recover from wounds or illness that others have succumbed to and astound their doctors who predicted otherwise.
One requirement for the miraculous recoveries, besides administrations of healing medications, food, water and protection from the elements (and sometimes even without them), seems to be an inner drive to remain alive and/or heal or an overwhelming need to accomplish some goal. This is truly an amazing phenomenon and cannot readily be explained by science.
Why do some succumb and others linger or survive?
That's the secret.
For you young'uns out there it may be difficult to comprehend but for some, continued living is not a blessing but a curse. As one ages, day to living and carrying out the normal bodily functions become difficult, painful and of limited pleasure or at best uncomfortable.
Since we all know the approximate extent of time left in one's life, regardless of physical condition or ability, as one approaches those limits one becomes more accepting and less willing to exert the will necessary to fend off illness. In other words, the prospect of death becomes less of a negative outcome and in some cases is waited for with anticipation.
This is probably why there is an increased likelihood of death or terminal disease after one loses a job or livelihood when older (and in some cases relatively young) within 3 years of that life change.
So be thankful for every minute of every day that you can spend with your beloveds and make sure that they know that you care and love them.
It may make the difference in how much time you have to enjoy each other.
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