June 10, 2011

Girl's Family: Messages Perfectly Innocent
— Ace

Weiner admits sending the messages, five in total he says, but says they are harmless and inoffensive.

On that point, the girl's family backs him up.

The family member said: “I am angry. This is surreal and unbelievable. It is absolutely crazy. We are just regular people who go to baseball games and basketball games, as ordinary and plain as can be.”

In the past few days, the girl and her family have become subjects of intense interest in the news media. On Friday afternoon, the local police arrived at their home and asked the girl and her mother to bring the girlÂ’s phone and computer to the police station so they could be checked to make sure no crime had occurred.

The family member said the family complied, and did not expect any further action to be taken.

Fair enough. Given the family would be angry at Weiner if there were some bad tweets here, I expect that's actually the truth of the matter.

I still would like to know what the hell Anthony Weiner was doing privately DMing a high school girl. His messages to her couldn't simply be publicly tweeted? "Thanks for your support! The future is made up of people like you!"

That sort of thing. Private? Why?

Posted by: Ace at 07:21 PM | Comments (248)
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1 Of course, they were harmless! Have you seen the size of my dick?

Posted by: tony's weiner at June 10, 2011 07:23 PM (kZ5Ek)

2 I need to get back to the people's work and stop being distracted by my tweeting addiction.

Posted by: A Wiener at June 10, 2011 07:24 PM (yrGif)

3 Private.Cause he was going to start asking for "special" pictures soon if he hadn't been scared off.

Posted by: steevy at June 10, 2011 07:25 PM (vPX3n)

4 What about the 69 post? I love married men etc? These people act like their the Cleavers or something.

Posted by: Rocks at June 10, 2011 07:25 PM (th0op)

5 The family may not expect further action but I bet the girl is shaking in her boots.

Posted by: Ratskeller at June 10, 2011 07:27 PM (1sp9c)

6 The only possible harmless DM he could have sent would have been along the lines of, "What the hell is the matter with you? You could get me into a shitload of trouble with your crazy-ass Tweets!  Where the hell are your parents?"

Posted by: Damn Dirty RINO at June 10, 2011 07:27 PM (hSwL0)

7 shhh Ixnay on the ament pay

Posted by: weiners weiner at June 10, 2011 07:29 PM (FFWZn)

8 Well yeah but not so long ago this whole fiasco was a vast right ring conspiracy headed up by Andrew Breitbart.  Who knows what Andrew still has in his arsenal.

Posted by: Aunt Cranky at June 10, 2011 07:29 PM (aibIg)

9 So this young lady tweets dirty online, starts mooning over Weiner, attracts Weiner's attention, gets into private messages... and then demurely chats about tea and dumplings.

I smell a lot of if from that. And by "if" I mean horseshit.

Posted by: Zimriel at June 10, 2011 07:30 PM (GeJs5)

10 That sort of thing. Private? Why?

Ego boost, I think.  He liked that the smitten teenagers were so taken with him. In the private chat, they can get all mushy and he can say, "now, now..."

I'm still suspicious, but if the cops find nothing, then there's nothing and probably they can figure out if anything untoward happened to her computer before they got it.

This is also not the behavior of a normal family.  But then again, Lewinsky's family was cool with it too. Methinks if we knew their names, an FEC search might show some political donations.

Posted by: AmishDude at June 10, 2011 07:30 PM (73tyQ)

11 Yep, ordinary as can be. Baseball, apple pie, and a daughter who tweets about loving married men, loving a perverted congressman (who is in direct contact) and using honey mustard sauce for unusual reasons. [Unless this is one of the others in Archie's gang]

Posted by: DM! at June 10, 2011 07:30 PM (O0Qwy)

12 When my son was a teen, he knew a lot more about computers and how to wipe files and hide data on net storage than the local cops. Did a forensic tech unit check the drives? Did they view her history with her ISP?

Posted by: RR at June 10, 2011 07:30 PM (6vcT4)

13 On Friday afternoon, the local police arrived at their home and asked the girl and her mother to bring the girlÂ’s phone and computer to the police station so they could be checked to make sure no crime had occurred.

There's no way they did a forensic analysis that quick either. Isn't it odd the police showed up right as Fox News was there and they started confiscating screencaps, etc? Does Weiner have friends in New Castle?

Posted by: Rocks at June 10, 2011 07:32 PM (th0op)

14 I have some questions: 1 - how long does Twitter save private messages? 2 - is it possible some were deleted and others were maintained? I think this won't be resolved until Twitter is hit with a search warrant.

Posted by: Daryl Herbert at June 10, 2011 07:32 PM (6YReu)

15 Interesting that they won't release the "innocent" communications.  Still, they must think that it's not legally actionable.

Posted by: AmishDude at June 10, 2011 07:32 PM (73tyQ)

16 parents like to protect their kids and they like to protect their reputations.  it really sucks when word gets out that their minor daughter was sexting a congressman w/out their knowledge. 

don't fall for the innocent angle.

Posted by: the slob at June 10, 2011 07:33 PM (LKYVz)

17 Hmmph. They'll be more stuff with other teenagers coming out. Also, Weiner says nothing wrong. Family says nothing wrong. Haven't heard the POLICE say anything yet.

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at June 10, 2011 07:33 PM (F6xNb)

18 If he was an R it wouldn't matter how innocent the DM's were.He'd be a creepy freak who had to resign.

Posted by: steevy at June 10, 2011 07:33 PM (vPX3n)

19 Ace, why are you giving this scumbag the benefit of the doubt? Why are you believing the NY Times?

Posted by: MrPaulRevere at June 10, 2011 07:33 PM (BAzTF)

20

So, basically, it is now fair game for an adult man to privately message teenage girls? Or teenage boys if they swing that way?

I mean really, talking about cape and tights and stuff. That's all really innocent. Honest.

So, I assume Twitter has already wiped the servers as well then? Considering Weiner sits on the government committee that deals with Twitter like entitites?

Posted by: ParanoidWorkingGirlinSeattle at June 10, 2011 07:34 PM (RZ8pf)

Posted by: Damn Dirty RINO at June 10, 2011 07:34 PM (hSwL0)

22

Yeah it is entirely possible that there was nothing bad in their DMs.  I could also bet he might have asked her when her birthday was too.

Posted by: buzzion at June 10, 2011 07:34 PM (oVQFe)

23 I was sending perfectly normal messages. You know, like have you studied masturbation in health class? Do you know how to use a webcam? Did you ever see the statue of David and wonder about the whole fig leaf thing?

Posted by: Rep Weiner at June 10, 2011 07:34 PM (bgcml)

24 And even if there was no sexy-talk in private, his private channel of communication was inappropriate and unbecoming of a congressman, because of (1) her age; and (2) her past statements. Also, why did he re-follow her? It was so damn important for him to send secret messages to her?

Posted by: Daryl Herbert at June 10, 2011 07:34 PM (6YReu)

25

"On Friday afternoon, the local police arrived at their home and asked the girl and her mother to bring the girlÂ’s phone and computer to the police station so they could be checked to make sure no crime had occurred."

Sorry pigs. I'll report a crime, if it occurs, and I want you involved. Now go away. Would be by initial reaction, but that just me.

Posted by: Jimmah at June 10, 2011 07:35 PM (BZ3K2)

26 Didn't Weiner say he had had no correspondence with minors ... As far as he knew? Well, that was another lie.

Posted by: MaxMBJ at June 10, 2011 07:35 PM (qBKEb)

27 If we were allowed to raise our kids like that girl in Kick Ass and that girl in True Grit, they could be dealt with. The gov. thinks it has a monopoly on heroes.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at June 10, 2011 07:35 PM (EiH7n)

28 >>> 14 - how long does Twitter save private messages? They might be saved (or might be in their server back-ups somewhere anyway), direct message notifications also would be sent to their email accounts. There are a few places that could be checked if law enforcement were inclined.

Posted by: DM! at June 10, 2011 07:36 PM (O0Qwy)

29 >>>Ace, why are you giving this scumbag the benefit of the doubt? Why are you believing the NY Times? It's not believing the NYTimes. It's believing the parents. They seem to think that this is the end of the matter. Why do they think that? People aren't dumb. If the cops act casually, as if there's nothing here, they pick up on that. If the cops act like some crime has been committed, they pick up on that. So the family is in a good position to know what the cops think. Based on their belief, I'd say the cops think there's nothing here.

Posted by: ace at June 10, 2011 07:37 PM (nj1bB)

30 On Friday afternoon, the local police arrived at their home and asked the girl and her mother to bring the girlÂ’s phone and computer to the police station so they could be checked to make sure no crime had occurred.

Why didn't they just ask for the stuff then and there?

The family member said the family complied, and did not expect any further action to be taken.

Look, they probably didn't have any time to wipe anything truly clean, but still...

Posted by: AmishDude at June 10, 2011 07:37 PM (73tyQ)

31 Why is anyone focusing on the computers in question?  The IPs and Twitter records are all that are needed...unless there was communication by other means.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at June 10, 2011 07:37 PM (D+phB)

32 Just to be clear here, this is the girl that liked to tweet dirty and researched Lupus with her parents at the exotic dancer's blog, yes?

Yeah, my money is on totally innocuous DMs.

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at June 10, 2011 07:38 PM (agD4m)

33 Has his PR team contacted the girl and her family? What they are saying is almost exactly what he was coaching the other women to say. Maybe it's the truth this time, maybe not.

Posted by: zmdavid at June 10, 2011 07:38 PM (guYjm)

34 Chill people.  Our host is being way too circumspect and sanguine in the thread introduction for this to be over.   He knows it isn't over.

Posted by: Ratskeller at June 10, 2011 07:38 PM (1sp9c)

35 This is also not the behavior of a normal family.  But then again, Lewinsky's family was cool with it too.

That's not how I read it.  I think that's the NYT downplaying things.  As I read it, they're angry at Weiner for having private communications with their daughter, and they resent having a media spotlight shone on her.  Sure, she seems like she's looking for trouble, but I was a foul-mouthed little punk when I was 17, too.  I think her parents just aren't very internet savvy, and probably assumed that their daughter's interest in politics was the least of their concerns; if I had been interested in Congress as a high school kid, my parents would have been thrilled.

Posted by: sandy burger at June 10, 2011 07:38 PM (ED0qC)

36 Well, I still maintain this is wildly inappropriate for an out of control harem-builder like Weiner. Certainly this is still a resignation-level offense. But, if there was no actual explicit texts between him and this girl, then the "murder" charge is out. It is still weird and creepy and expulsion-worthy, but not criminal.

Posted by: ace at June 10, 2011 07:38 PM (nj1bB)

37 A.Weiner: pervert alert

Posted by: TheThinManReturns at June 10, 2011 07:39 PM (/2ODN)

38 Didn't Weiner say he had had no correspondence with minors ... As far as he knew? Well, that was another lie.

Posted by: MaxMBJ at June 10, 2011 11:35 PM (qBKEb)

Does the girl have a pick ax? No. Then you owe me an apology.

Posted by: Tony Weiner at June 10, 2011 07:39 PM (bgcml)

39 >>> 15 Interesting that they won't release the "innocent" communications. Still, they must think that it's not legally actionable. Maybe the DMs were fairly inane. Remember he send dic pics from his AOL email and somehow texted random stranger Comely Co-ed right before his press conference to apologize.

Posted by: DM! at June 10, 2011 07:40 PM (O0Qwy)

40 Also, why did he re-follow her? It was so damn important for him to send secret messages to her?

Posted by: Daryl Herbert at June 10, 2011 11:34 PM (6YReu)

He was dying to hear her up-to-the-minute opinions on the debt ceiling and how not raising it would effect interest rates.

Posted by: AmishDude at June 10, 2011 07:40 PM (73tyQ)

41 He had lots of avenues to communicate.

Posted by: DM! at June 10, 2011 07:40 PM (O0Qwy)

42 Has anyone followed up on the report that Huma and Weiner were holed up in a Manhatten hotel room working on damage control?

First there was the announcement of the "pregnancy", then there were homely, domestic-type photos of weiner walking down the sidewalk with food for the two.

Now the parents of an underage girl assure us that absolutely none of the messages their daughter exchanged privately with this notorious horndog were just totally innocent.

When will the press begin to dog Huma until we get her public response? Hillary?

Posted by: sartana at June 10, 2011 07:40 PM (/IW23)

43 Nothing screams innocence and chastity like using Dijonnaise for Lube.

Posted by: garrett at June 10, 2011 07:40 PM (eoQSZ)

44 No, I didn't send that picture.  Okay, I sent the picture, and many more, but they were all adults.  Okay, they weren't all adults but nothing indecent was sent.  Why are you questioning my veracity?

Posted by: Yeff at June 10, 2011 07:41 PM (TIuoo)

45 It was just an Apple Pie,




with my cock in it.

Posted by: Anthony Weiner at June 10, 2011 07:41 PM (agD4m)

46 The names facts have been changed to protect the innocent.

Posted by: Dragnet at June 10, 2011 07:41 PM (eoQSZ)

47

Dijonnaise for Lube

Geez, it was honey mustard. Honey mustard is for closers.

Posted by: ParanoidWorkingGirlinSeattle at June 10, 2011 07:42 PM (RZ8pf)

48 And we believe it was only five because...?

Posted by: elaine at June 10, 2011 07:42 PM (kjW5D)

49

This may have already been addressed, but here's the fish:

Initially, it was reported that a FoxNews reporter was in the house interviewing the girl, was made to give the authorities any and all screen captures, and leave immediately.  (please tell me if I am wrong here as I will be more than happy to retract)

I have a generally positive perception of the police, but recently after the AZ shooting of a vet, the cops protesting in WI....

I just have this nagging suspicion that this may have been a coerced action...especially if Fox News had a reporter already in the house.

I dunno...This whole story is full of so many twists and turns, it's hard to ponder one thing before another thing comes to light.

Posted by: i <3 ace at June 10, 2011 07:42 PM (YA6+6)

50 So the family is in a good position to know what the cops think. Based on their belief, I'd say the cops think there's nothing here.

Posted by: ace at June 10, 2011 11:37 PM (nj1bB)

Depends, could be the girls saw all of the trouble Weiner has got himself into and deleted anything that was going farther than talking about the weather. Later she shows the innocent tweets to her mom and everything is cool.

The cops have her computer and cell phone. If they search the hardrive for deletions and find there in no there there then it's just weirdness and not a crime.

Posted by: robtr at June 10, 2011 07:42 PM (MtwBb)

51 I don't trust the Police to "investigate" Democrats like him.I think they tend to do more burying than exposing.

Posted by: steevy at June 10, 2011 07:42 PM (vPX3n)

52 And of course, if you read it in the Times it must be true>

Posted by: davo at June 10, 2011 07:43 PM (q8Yz9)

53 Oh, and for those who have forgotten or are too young to have really been paying attention:

This is what a Clinton scandal looks like.

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at June 10, 2011 07:43 PM (agD4m)

54 47 That has GOT to burn when it hits the old dorkhole.

Posted by: steevy at June 10, 2011 07:44 PM (vPX3n)

55 >>> 35 As I read it, they're angry at Weiner for having private communications with their daughter, and they resent having a media spotlight shone on her. (Wild speculation) She may have said embarrassing things or reciprocated in something she should not have. The urge for NOTHING TO SEE HERE NOTHING TO SEE HERE might be stronger for them than humiliating her to get Weiner. (Again, speculation)

Posted by: DM! at June 10, 2011 07:44 PM (O0Qwy)

56 @Ace #29.  Another shoe's gonna drop here at some point in time, we all know it. You are somewhat conflicted about the whole story, I got that from your post the other day. Don't go wobbly.

Posted by: MrPaulRevere at June 10, 2011 07:44 PM (BAzTF)

57 From Patterico;

Sure, just harmless kid stuff, like this:


"I love 698ng big hunt + like to use honey mustard as lube. baby I love bdh weiner"

Sure, nothing inappropriate about that!



Posted by: kbdabear at June 10, 2011 07:44 PM (so1xa)

58 Two words: Grooming behavior. She wasn't gonna be seventeen forever. Duh.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at June 10, 2011 07:44 PM (UsjBj)

59 It sounds like he was fanning the flames of hero-worship, while avoiding anything sexually explicit.

Ace called him a "harem-builder", and that's what he was doing here.  And once she turned 18: a Happy Birthday DM!

Posted by: sandy burger at June 10, 2011 07:44 PM (ED0qC)

60 crazee,,,am I right? c'mere little girl

Posted by: creepazoid(shiver) at June 10, 2011 07:45 PM (/2ODN)

61 Where do you get parents like this?

Posted by: Ben at June 10, 2011 07:45 PM (DKV43)

62 Ok, before the longbows come out... I registered my opinion, and I'll leave it at that.

I haven't done the research Ace and Patterico have done. They've earned a few credits by now. if they say this line of investigation has reached its end, I'll not press the issue.

The "manslaughter" charge is bad enough for the lil weener

Posted by: Zimriel at June 10, 2011 07:46 PM (GeJs5)

63 As I read it, they're angry at Weiner for having private communications with their daughter, and they resent having a media spotlight shone on her.

That's not how I read it.  I wouldn't put it past the NYT to mischaracterize it, but I see them as being mad at the media and at the cops for going after this perfectly innocent relationship of their underage daughter with a married Congressman.

Posted by: AmishDude at June 10, 2011 07:46 PM (73tyQ)

64 So the police showed up, in order to investigate further.  This is in Delaware, not NY.  Giving them the benefit of the doubt, what we have here is:

1.  investigating a complaint from a crank of some kind so it can be dismissed and made to go away

2.  a legit complaint, which would have required evidence, of which we have none that is solid, yet. 

3.  the appearance of  "doing something", which can be very important when pressure is applied from any source, or

4. maybe there's fire with the smoke, but it's sure hard to prove.

I'll keep my powder dry until there's a request for a warrant.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at June 10, 2011 07:47 PM (D+phB)

65 The last time he used the cape/tights line on a woman, she told him he looked hot in them. He was fishing for the same thing with this girl, knowing her age and her crush on him. The only thing that stopped him from going further was getting caught sending the tweet to the comely coed on May 27.

Posted by: Average Joe at June 10, 2011 07:47 PM (liBQN)

66 I can't prove a god damned thing, but I've prosecuted enough predators to know a pattern when I see it. I promise there's more to this, and no one is going to like it. His behavior is really terribly predictable.

Posted by: Clownballoon at June 10, 2011 07:48 PM (qfkqa)

67 Why is anyone focusing on the computers in question? The IPs and Twitter records are all that are needed...unless there was communication by other means. Posted by: StPatrick_TN Many don't quite understand this internet thing. The cops may have to shoot the servers.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at June 10, 2011 07:48 PM (EiH7n)

68 He definately fishing for certain response with his mentioning of himself in "tights".You know he just wants them to ask something about the bulge in his tights.This guy is a freak.

Posted by: steevy at June 10, 2011 07:48 PM (vPX3n)

69 If I found out my older sister was DMing a female teenage stranger, I'd tell my dad. And then we would both throw up. Whether it's a 46 year old Congressman or your 46 year old sister, it's still disturbing.

Posted by: Joanie (Oven Gloves) at June 10, 2011 07:48 PM (y/+eD)

70
I did not have sex with that young girl, and our chance meeting was spiritual in nature as I consider myself to be a mentor of young people. 

I learned this public service from Jesse Jackson, a civil rights leader who has mentored a lot of young women, and on one occasion, the young whore actually claimed to be pregnant by the most Reverend Jesse Jackson.  Bitch!

Posted by: Anthony Weiner, D-New York at June 10, 2011 07:49 PM (cwFVA)

71 I'll keep my powder dry until there's a request for a warrant.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at June 10, 2011 11:47 PM (D+phB)

They don't need a warrant, unless you are talking about an arrest warant. The cops asked the teens mother to take her cell phone and computer and drop it off at the police station. The mom agreed to do that and did. They have the stuff with consent to search it.

Posted by: robtr at June 10, 2011 07:49 PM (MtwBb)

72 66 Yep,definately.I posted pretty much the same thing at the same time as you.

Posted by: steevy at June 10, 2011 07:50 PM (vPX3n)

73

According to the Congressman's spokesperson the messages were, "neither explicit or indecent."

As opposed to the explicit and indecent photos and direct messages Congressman Weiner previously tweeted? 

Just looking for some granular definition here in terms of the "neither explicit or indecent" verbiage.  

Posted by: Journolist at June 10, 2011 07:50 PM (QM8jX)

74 if i saw his pos in the street,.... i'd scrape my foot on the curb and move on. (Deep behind enemy lines)

Posted by: TheThinManReturns at June 10, 2011 07:51 PM (/2ODN)

75 Thanks for all the time and effort you've committed to this story Ace, I was in awe.

Posted by: MrPaulRevere at June 10, 2011 07:52 PM (BAzTF)

76 if I were a "chatter" w/a.weiner I'd be scared...

Posted by: TheThinManReturns at June 10, 2011 07:53 PM (/2ODN)

77 Sorry. I don't believe it. There's serious shit being hushed up. As Ace said, "Private? Why?" Exactly.

Posted by: wankette at June 10, 2011 07:53 PM (CrYip)

78 If you were a chatter, you might want to go to a well-lit police station...

Posted by: TheThinManReturns at June 10, 2011 07:54 PM (/2ODN)

79 This man is really dangerous. Every filthy thing in the facebook chat with the skank card dealer was waiting behind the curtain for this child. And then some. She didn't live far from DC at all.

Posted by: Clownballoon at June 10, 2011 07:54 PM (qfkqa)

80 I can't wait for Law&Order SVU to get ahold of this. 

You can almost write the plot line now - crazy rightwing media guy tries to destroy hard working, son-of-Jewish immigrants politician using faked pictures and new fangled internet stuff. A totally innocent Jersey gril will get wrapped up in it.  It will end with the rap dude cop beating up beitbart for ace's identity, and the angry girl detective shooting ace in an abandoned subway warren with a hack'd internet connection and a collection of ewok posters.  The final shot will show how close he got to grabbing his longbow.

Posted by: Jean at June 10, 2011 07:54 PM (7P7Ij)

81 Meanwhile, President Einstein's approval rating just dipped back down below his IQ.

Posted by: Jimmah at June 10, 2011 07:55 PM (BZ3K2)

82

Breitbart stated Thursday that he thinks Weiner will resign by next week.

Weiner is resisting but he is now gonna be the cut out in a case that is reaching exponents of filth.

Posted by: Journolist at June 10, 2011 07:55 PM (QM8jX)

83 They don't need a warrant, unless you are talking about an arrest warant. The cops asked the teens mother to take her cell phone and computer and drop it off at the police station. The mom agreed to do that and did. They have the stuff with consent to search it

My point was that if there's anything to be found, it might be found in e-mail or on a HDD, but it there's real suspicion that something was going on, the next step is going to be getting a subpoena for the girl's Facebook and Twitter records.  The hard drive will never tell the whole story.

Related question:  Does Weiner have a Skype account?

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at June 10, 2011 07:55 PM (D+phB)

84
Ace has performed a wonderful public service on the Congressman Weiner story. Ace reminds me of my tenacious approach to inquiry,  and especially the even-handed facts written without consideration of political party.

Posted by: Dan Rather at June 10, 2011 07:56 PM (cwFVA)

85

Even if there was no actual sex talk, his "tights and cape shit" e-mail seems a little too "familiar" to be sending to an underage girl. A congressman talks like that to a 17 year old he doesn't actually know? Seriously?

Of course, her parents apparently don't mind the "I love 69" tweets, so this seems unlikely to bother them.

Posted by: OscarMeyer at June 10, 2011 07:56 PM (ej0gl)

86 Encyclopedia Johnson is on the job to try to save Weiner again!

Update: For sheer comedy, itÂ’s hard to beat this conspiracy rumbling from Johnson:

At this point itÂ’s impossible to defend Weiner, but Â… the Fox News crew was already at the house before the police arrived? Does that seem a little odd to anyone?


Posted by: kbdabear at June 10, 2011 07:57 PM (so1xa)

87 Innocent but weird communication with underage people, and explicit but inappropriate communication with multiple adults. This is how the media would have treated Foley if he had been a Democrat.

Posted by: JohnJ at June 10, 2011 07:57 PM (1JFtF)

88

OK... I didn't even catch that.  A Vegas card dealer is also involved?

Ace, Ace, Ace.  How about a Weinergate "Flow Chart" providing a run down of all of the women involved. 

Posted by: Journolist at June 10, 2011 07:58 PM (QM8jX)

89 Nothing screams innocence and chastity like using Dijonnaise for Lube.

I somewhat disagree.  She doesn't even know what she's talking about.  She sounds over-sexed and under-educated, like many 17 year-olds.  In reality, using mustard for lube would probably sting.  This is the trying-to-sound sexy blather of a young girl trying to sound like a sexy woman, and failing.

I can't believe I'm discussing honey mustard.  Good grief.

And yes, Weiner's intentions are clear, even though he probably didn't break any laws.  He's a predator.

Posted by: sandy burger at June 10, 2011 07:58 PM (ED0qC)

90 Given the family would be angry at Weiner if there were some bad tweets here

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Posted by: oblig. at June 10, 2011 07:58 PM (xvZW9)

91 85
Ace has performed a wonderful public service on the Congressman Weiner story. Ace reminds me of my tenacious approach to inquiry,  and especially the even-handed facts written without consideration of political party.

Posted by: Dan Rather at June 10, 2011 11:56 PM (cwFVA)


Was that just not thought through, or are you playing for the other team? #cognitivedissonance

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at June 10, 2011 07:59 PM (D+phB)

92 The cops have the server surrounded.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at June 10, 2011 07:59 PM (EiH7n)

93 Weine is a big fan of BHO btw...who IS the head of the democrat party?

Posted by: TheThinManReturns at June 10, 2011 07:59 PM (/2ODN)

94

Of course, her parents apparently don't mind the "I love 69" tweets, so this seems unlikely to bother them.

Posted by: OscarMeyer at June 10, 2011 11:56 PM

So under that criteria, if her parents had hired her out as an escort to Weiner, it would all be fine because mommy and daddy were a-ok with it?

Posted by: kbdabear at June 10, 2011 07:59 PM (so1xa)

95 > > > 28 @DM, I meant what the family would have access to, not just what's on Twitter's servers that Twitter would be able to search in response to a subpoena/warrant.

Posted by: Daryl Herbert at June 10, 2011 08:01 PM (6YReu)

96 Has anyone every had the misfortune of having to go after sexual predators before? If so, I'm right that this is totally fucking obvious, right? Could it be any more by the numbers?

Posted by: Clownballoon at June 10, 2011 08:01 PM (qfkqa)

97 #94 Duh, uh, you rang?

Posted by: Debbie Whatisupwiththisbitch-Sergeant Schultz at June 10, 2011 08:01 PM (agD4m)

98 94 Weine is a big fan of BHO
btw...who IS the head of the democrat party?

Posted by: TheThinManReturns at June 10, 2011 11:59 PM (/2ODN)

< TTMR, that is exactly right.  Where is the head of the Democratic party in all of this, BHO?????  Talk about a titular head. Ooops, am I plagiarizing a Weiner DM' "titular head."

Posted by: Journolist at June 10, 2011 08:01 PM (QM8jX)

99
I can't believe I'm discussing honey mustard.  Good grief.

Dijon is NOT honey mustard, peasant.  Go back to your chicken feengeirs and daytime TV.

Posted by: Gregorie Poupon at June 10, 2011 08:02 PM (D+phB)

100 Weiner's become a liability. 

But I think it's pretty clear he's being protected by the Clintons.

Posted by: AmishDude at June 10, 2011 08:03 PM (73tyQ)

101 ya gotta be careful wrt the junk mail that "be dropped in your box" that prick weiner, he ruined...

Posted by: TheThinManReturns at June 10, 2011 08:03 PM (/2ODN)

102 Posted by: sandy burger at June 10, 2011 11:58 PM (ED0qC) I think she was just being silly & decided to say something gross. I'm sure at 17 she knows that condiment lube wouldn't sound sexy to anyone. Maybe the Hamburgler.

Posted by: Joanie (Oven Gloves) at June 10, 2011 08:04 PM (y/+eD)

103 Sweet fancy Moses, if this shitbird had been tweeting my 17-year-old daughter, he'd already be pushin' up daisies.  Just sayin'

Posted by: Peaches at June 10, 2011 08:05 PM (afUO8)

104 You pooped on our Palin Party, Ace ...

Fuck you too !!

Posted by: The MBM at June 10, 2011 08:05 PM (so1xa)

105 I am reading your tweets and I don't know. I don't agree. Nearly every mother on my local TV says their murder suspect son didn't do it, not their angel, their baby. I am not equivocating these kids to murders, I am just saying parents have rose tinted glasses. Besides, when I was caught in almost anything as a kid I would deny deny and most of the time my parents would buy it. Some of these girls claimed to love Weiner and might swear up and down nothing happened to protect him and to protect themselves (in the assumption that they are in some kind of trouble, which they wouldn't be). Also, teenagers lie. The cops (unless they're just ticking some boxes) will probably get a sense from the kid if she is being evasive and will be able to tell if there is really nothing here. Based on his M.O., his cageyness on the issue in his press conference, and the statements attributed to kids who were in contact with him, I don't see why there is the assumption that there's nothing here until the police have a good look.

Posted by: DM! at June 10, 2011 08:05 PM (O0Qwy)

106 So under that criteria, if her parents had hired her out as an escort to Weiner, it would all be fine because mommy and daddy were a-ok with it?

Posted by: kbdabear at June 10, 2011 11:59 PM (so1xa)

I literally can't even fathom how someone could read the title of this post, read the content therein, read my comment, and come to the conclusion that you did.

Posted by: OscarMeyer at June 10, 2011 08:05 PM (ej0gl)

107 My point was that if there's anything to be found, it might be found in e-mail or on a HDD, but it there's real suspicion that something was going on, the next step is going to be getting a subpoena for the girl's Facebook and Twitter records.  The hard drive will never tell the whole story.

Related question:  Does Weiner have a Skype account?

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at June 10, 2011 11:55 PM (D+phB)

I wondered about that. I don't know how that works. Does your computer keep some sort of record of what you do online or does it just all go away from your comp when you sign of twitter or whatever?

Posted by: robtr at June 10, 2011 08:05 PM (MtwBb)

108 You can delete any direct message you want on Twitter.  The girl must have went ape-shit deleting as many kinky DMs as she could and left behind only the more harmless, tame sounding ones.  I would suspect her parents don't know dipshit about Twitter and hadn't even considered the possibility that their precious baby girl may have deleted the evidence.



Posted by: The Man Between The Cans at June 10, 2011 08:06 PM (TCyyS)

109 As I've been telling you for days, now he's telling the truth!

Posted by: Chris Matthews at June 10, 2011 08:07 PM (FcR7P)

110 Where is the action, of any kind, if Weiner got out of line with this girl?  I'm 31 years old - if there was a suggestion that I had had this kind of relationship, even though it's only suggested, Chris Hansen is at my doorstep.

DE police was something, but I suspect is was an effort to show effort.  If the Weiner is to be nailed to the wall, it will involve twitter and facebook.  This one girl may have the golden "go to jail ticket" on her computer, but I doubt it.  /Not that I don't hope it's true.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at June 10, 2011 08:08 PM (D+phB)

111 I am a lover, not a fighter but this POS better not come into my town.

Posted by: TheThinManReturns at June 10, 2011 08:09 PM (/2ODN)

112 We wouldn't even ask to investigate Twitter's backups. That would be an invasion of privacy. Have you no shame? Sheesh! *wink*

Posted by: The Washington Post at June 10, 2011 08:09 PM (FcR7P)

113 I'd imagine the mustard comment was not literal but a mustard going with weiner [sic] joke [sick].

Posted by: andycanuck at June 10, 2011 08:09 PM (kZ5Ek)

114 I'll bring the meat and you bring the buns, honey.

Posted by: tony's weiner at June 10, 2011 08:10 PM (kZ5Ek)

115 At least she didn't use Glue.

 Seriously, I remember after I got out of high school. One day in the following year, I waited for my friend to get out. I even planned to go meet my girlfriend afterwards. I ended up getting into an argument with someone who said I was "trespassing", and they called the police on me. Point is, when I got there the police officer made some snarky comment to me asking why I like to hang around high schools, suggesting I'm a pedophile.

 I was fucking 18(I graduated early). And yet, I'm a pedophile for hanging outside a high school.

 A 47 year old congressman direct messaging 17 year old girls? Nothing to see here, really?

Disgusting.

Posted by: Crazee at June 10, 2011 08:11 PM (H3ujh)

116 Is she hawt?

Posted by: steevy at June 10, 2011 08:11 PM (vPX3n)

117 "Pour Some Honey Mustard On Me..."

Posted by: Def Leppard at June 10, 2011 08:11 PM (FcR7P)

118 i do not 'cheer' this information actually, i am actually sad- weiner needs to be removed from office (taken off the streets) before he hurts someone

Posted by: TheThinManReturns at June 10, 2011 08:12 PM (/2ODN)

119 A family member also said he/she saw nothing inappropriate about the tweets.  Clearly they didn't see the 69 comment, or thought 69 was a Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure reference.

This being Delaware, I wouldn't put much stock in the parents' IQ levels.

Posted by: The Man Between The Cans at June 10, 2011 08:12 PM (TCyyS)

120 So what potential crimes, if any, did Weiner commit here?

1) If he DM'd her with sexy talk and she reciprocated.
2) If he sent her a dic-pic.

I assume he's in the most trouble if she sent him any pics. Is there an actual crime in Delaware for sexting a minor? I've no idea, which is why I'm asking.

Posted by: Clubber Lang at June 10, 2011 08:12 PM (QcFbt)

121 109 You can delete any direct message you want on Twitter.  The girl must have went ape-shit deleting as many kinky DMs as she could and left behind only the more harmless, tame sounding ones.  I would suspect her parents don't know dipshit about Twitter and hadn't even considered the possibility that their precious baby girl may have deleted the evidence.

You sure can delete anything...from your feed.  If there were shenanigans, playful suggestions, or other synonyms for hitting on underage girls, well - nothing is ever really deleted.  The google cache is proof enough of that, though in this case they may lend a hand and actually delete something.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at June 10, 2011 08:12 PM (D+phB)

122 Is there an actual crime in Delaware for sexting a minor? I've no idea, which is why I'm asking.

Gotta be some kind of moral turpitude involving a minor, but wtf do I know?

Posted by: Peaches at June 10, 2011 08:14 PM (afUO8)

123 Notwithstanding the twitter and facebook servers, which also store everything.

Once on the internet, nothing really disappears.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at June 10, 2011 08:15 PM (D+phB)

124 The google cache is proof enough of that, though in this case they may lend a hand and actually delete something.

Google doesn't cache private DM messages.  When DM messages are sent, only two parties have the capacity to delete them, the recipient and sender.  Safe bet Weiner deleted everything on his end, and the girl probably did her part as well by deleting incriminating tweets on hers.  That means the evidence now only exists in backups on Twitter servers.

It's possible that a desktop app used for tweeting could have saved a cache of the tweets as well, but I'm not sure how much of that is recoverable.

Posted by: The Man Between The Cans at June 10, 2011 08:17 PM (TCyyS)

125 Does anyone else find the following belly-busting hilarious or has this already been covered?

The former speaker said in San Francisco that she believes the decision should be made by "the individual member" and the people in his district. [emphasis mine]

Posted by: Peaches at June 10, 2011 08:17 PM (afUO8)

126

I don't know, it seems everytime they arrest someone they take their computer and end up knowing exactly what they have been doing online. I was watching the news about that florida chick who killed her kid and they found out how many searches she did for different things and stuff.

I just don't know how it all works, if they could tell if she was deleting stuff after weinergate broke from her comp.

Posted by: robtr at June 10, 2011 08:17 PM (MtwBb)

127 Is there an actual crime in Delaware for sexting a minor? I've no idea, which is why I'm asking.

It's actually a federal offense since the communication was inter-state.  There might be state law as well that mimics the federal statute, but this is, well, Delaware.

Posted by: The Man Between The Cans at June 10, 2011 08:18 PM (TCyyS)

128 Is it still interstate douchebaggery if he's doing this from DC, which is not one of the 57? Need some clarification from Bill Clinton on this one.

Posted by: t-bird at June 10, 2011 08:18 PM (FcR7P)

129 Sure they were innocent. Thats why she couldnt tell anyone about them.

Posted by: Jollyroger at June 10, 2011 08:18 PM (RCAUY)

130
Gotta be some kind of moral turpitude involving a minor, but wtf do I know?

I assume you're a woman - so you know enough.  Is it or is it not cool to privately and personally speak with a 17 year old girl, for any reason, when you're a 46 year old man?

My assumption is not cool, excepting family and friends.  Can you think of a legitimate reason?  (Principal, teacher, coach...fine.  Congressman from another state?)  Is there a hypothetical that scans?

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at June 10, 2011 08:19 PM (D+phB)

131 That means the evidence now only exists in backups on Twitter servers. I bet there's mountains of evidence still out there. And there will be more in the future. He can't help himself, he's a high-functioning man.

Posted by: t-bird at June 10, 2011 08:21 PM (FcR7P)

132 127

I don't know, it seems everytime they arrest someone they take their computer and end up knowing exactly what they have been doing online. I was watching the news about that florida chick who killed her kid and they found out how many searches she did for different things and stuff.

I just don't know how it all works, if they could tell if she was deleting stuff after weinergate broke from her comp.

Posted by: robtr at June 11, 2011 12:17 AM (MtwBb)

That can all depend on your temporary internet files capacity settings.  Also if you have google remembering your searches.  Stuff you've downloaded.  And even places you've gone to but deleted may still be recoverable, I don't know.  Also knowing the computer you can get the IP information from the ISP in subpoenas probably and see where they were going.

Posted by: buzzion at June 10, 2011 08:21 PM (oVQFe)

133

I'm sure Weiner doesn't have any influence with DE police.

"“Ethel” also follows, and is followed by, Sen. Chris Coons (D-DE) and Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY), ..."

Posted by: something stinks at June 10, 2011 08:23 PM (ucq49)

134 I had a 17 year old girl flirt with me once, she's a co-worker. I felt really weird about it, and I was 23 at the time. And 17 is legal here. It still felt like I was doing something wrong.

 But hey, when you're a congressman...laws and standards mean nothing.

Posted by: Crazee at June 10, 2011 08:23 PM (H3ujh)

135

 ... the police showed up, in order to investigate further ...

Is there a chance that Anthony took a weekend trip to NJ?

Posted by: Arbalest at June 10, 2011 08:24 PM (9x9ir)

136 The fact that the weiner-roast is continuing in Delaware suggests that he is going to be burned the ground, blue-on-blue.  What I wonder is whether or not the damage control is capable of containing everything he might have done online.

There is a potential for many eggs on many faces if they burn him at the stake, but the story chugs along.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at June 10, 2011 08:24 PM (D+phB)

137 Am I the only one wondering if Weiner is roided out? His shirtless pix show a very buffed body for a 46yo. Combined with his explosive temper, could he not be a fine example of roid rage?

Posted by: Perry 2012 at June 10, 2011 08:24 PM (C42qb)

138 I just don't know how it all works, if they could tell if she was deleting stuff after weinergate broke from her comp.

Finding histories of searches is pretty easy, all of that is saved by the browser and stored on your personal computer.  If they don't use a private browsing mode, a 10 year old could recover the data.

Tweets are more iffy because initially, it's all stored on Twitter servers, not the personal computer.  The data then can only possibly exist in caches utilized by third party Twitter apps.  In her case she was actually using a Blackberry for many of her tweets, so if the police had an ounce of sense they would have confiscated that as well.  There's a chance that a cache of tweets could have been stored by whatever apps she was using on her Blackberry for Twitter, and it's not something you can easily delete without a bit of technical savvy.

Posted by: The Man Between The Cans at June 10, 2011 08:24 PM (TCyyS)

139 Is it or is it not cool to privately and personally speak with a 17 year old girl, for any reason, when you're a 46 year old man?

According to every state and federal statute that I'm aware of, um, she's a CHILD.  If he were one of our illustrious high school teachers, we wouldn't even be having this conversation.  He'd  have been fired and probably under indictment. 

I prefer my weiners roasted.  On a spit.  In hell.

Give no quarter.  We need to take this one down.

Posted by: Peaches at June 10, 2011 08:25 PM (afUO8)

140 I'm really disgusted not so much at Weiner but at the people protecting him.  They're giving this guy a pass to act all pervy with underage girls for no other reason than because he's a liberal democrat.  How the hell do they sleep at night?


Posted by: The Man Between The Cans at June 10, 2011 08:28 PM (TCyyS)

Posted by: Perv2theCurb at June 10, 2011 08:28 PM (dh5Eu)

142
Private? Why?

Also, why did he re-follow her?

Drip. Drip. Drip.

Even if the answers yield nothing illegal, any news is bad news.

Posted by: arhooley at June 10, 2011 08:28 PM (Jw/uD)

143 There's a chance that a cache of tweets could have been stored by whatever apps she was using on her Blackberry for Twitter, and it's not something you can easily delete without a bit of technical savvy.

Posted by: The Man Between The Cans at June 11, 2011 12:24 AM (TCyyS)

They did take her phone so maybe if something is there they will find it.

Posted by: robtr at June 10, 2011 08:28 PM (MtwBb)

144

I'm sure Weiner doesn't have any influence with DE police.

Remember, he's a liability to Democrats.  They'd love to get this out from under them.

"“Ethel” also follows, and is followed by, Sen. Chris Coons (D-DE) and Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY), ..."

Is followed by?  IS FOLLOWED BY? I don't think they're both poon-hounds, so what's the deal?

Is she some sort of well-connected Dem's kid?

Posted by: AmishDude at June 10, 2011 08:30 PM (73tyQ)

145 I'm really disgusted not so much at Weiner but at the people protecting him.  They're giving this guy a pass to act all pervy with underage girls for no other reason than because he's a liberal democrat.  How the hell do they sleep at night?

Posted by: The Man Between The Cans at June 11, 2011 12:28 AM (TCyyS)

Christ the first teenagers mom not only said nothing was wrong with her kid private messaging weiner but went on to say how innocent weiner was a what a great congressman he was.

Then two days later weiner confessed to being a d bag

Posted by: robtr at June 10, 2011 08:31 PM (MtwBb)

146
I prefer my weiners roasted.  On a spit.  In hell.

Give no quarter.  We need to take this one down.

Posted by: Peaches at June 11, 2011 12:25 AM (afUO


I'm on Team Peaches, then.  I don't care about Weiner sticking around as an embarassment for the Dems (why do we assume they're capable of such, anyway?) - hell, Bawney is still kicking, and he's been an embarassment for years.

I want him out.  No charades, no tearful "stand by your man" press conferences, just complete exile.  He needs to go back from whence he came was from, and bother us no moer.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at June 10, 2011 08:31 PM (D+phB)

147 Yup. Cause we all know that if any hanky panky were going on, the girl's parents would got right on national TV and say that their kid is a filthy, dirty, internet whore. Uh huh. Just like all the parents of convicted murders don't go on camera and talk about how loving, non-violent, and good their kid was before he started keeping bodies in his freezer in place of TV dinners.

Posted by: Damiano at June 10, 2011 08:34 PM (3nrx7)

148 I want him in jail, rooming with a guy who knows a thing or two about lube.

Posted by: Crazee at June 10, 2011 08:34 PM (H3ujh)

149 Just when do the Feds get involved?  Isn't this interstate porn?
Oh, and the gym teacher and dicpichead played on skype.  Would they have images?  That is in one of his posts to the teacher in according to RADAR.
Predator Extraordinaire.  But, Piglosi said he could stay.

Posted by: Perv2theCurb at June 10, 2011 08:34 PM (dh5Eu)

150 You just know miss Honey Mustard downloaded and saved the pics she got and hastily deleted them not realizing that delete doesnt really delete anything.

Next week will be fun fun fun.


Posted by: Jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka at June 10, 2011 08:34 PM (bs3JI)

151 "I had a 17 year old girl flirt with me once, she's a co-worker. I felt really weird about it, and I was 23 at the time." I was kinda palling around with this hilarious 19 year old coworker of mine not too long ago. One day I went to lunch with her alone and decided it was just too weird. And I'm not even a lesbian, it was just the teenage factor.

Posted by: Joanie (Oven Gloves) at June 10, 2011 08:34 PM (y/+eD)

152 Posted by: StPatrick_TN at June 11, 2011 12:31 AM (D+phB)

Semper fi, my friend!  Plus, it will be even better now that Pelosi has backed off.  What will another week or two bring?  You know they're gonna start crawling out of the woodwork on this one.  The longer he puts it off, the more cringeworthy it becomes. 

OT, but has anyone checked popcorn futures lately?

Posted by: Peaches at June 10, 2011 08:36 PM (afUO8)

153 49 Yup. Cause we all know that if any hanky panky were going on, the girl's parents would got right on national TV and say that their kid is a filthy, dirty, internet whore.

Uh huh. Just like all the parents of convicted murders don't go on camera and talk about how loving, non-violent, and good their kid was before he started keeping bodies in his freezer in place of TV dinners.

Posted by: Damiano at June 11, 2011 12:34 AM (3nrx7)


$$$$$$$$$$Say, Damiano, how you doin'?$$$$$$$$$$$

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at June 10, 2011 08:36 PM (D+phB)

154 Combined with his explosive temper, could he not be a fine example of roid rage?
Introduce him to andi sullivan.

Posted by: andycanuck at June 10, 2011 08:36 PM (kZ5Ek)

155

Have to say, when there is a national level scandal, the first thought, if not actual response, of most parents of a teenager is to shut it down as quickly as possible. That would give them at least some wiggle room and time to decide where to go from there.

No one knows the families political leanings and that could have some determining value.

Ace is rolling sevens right now and I defer to his expertise, but it may not be finished yet.

Posted by: Who Knows at June 10, 2011 08:37 PM (1cx/R)

156
A Vegas card dealer is also involved?

omg you missed that one? Those messages are the ones that turned Kirsten Power. "I'm going to gag you with it and cum so hard" etc. He also was making plans to go visit her. How Huma can stay with that is beyond me.

Posted by: arhooley at June 10, 2011 08:37 PM (Jw/uD)

157 Um, yeah, they said what a great congressman A Perv Weiner is, and how great they thought it was that she was "learning" about gubmint and evil rethugs.

Posted by: Perv2theCurb at June 10, 2011 08:39 PM (dh5Eu)

158  And I'm not even a lesbian, it was just the teenage factor.

Posted by: Joanie (Oven Gloves) at June 11, 2011 12:34 AM (y/+eD)

Yup, I stay away from youngsters unless their parents are around. No way could I be a teacher, if one of them accuses you of something even if two years down the road you are found innocent your life is toast by then.

I was asked to be a mentor/big brother and said no thanks.

Posted by: robtr at June 10, 2011 08:40 PM (MtwBb)

159

And since when has going to sporting events been the ultimate proof that a family is telling the truth about anything?

I found that part of her family's statement odd.

Posted by: Who Knows at June 10, 2011 08:40 PM (1cx/R)

160 ProTip: If you're a pervert and like young girls, there are a million 18 and 19 year olds that look 15 or 16, because they never developed curvaceous bodies. That might be a better avenue than actually pursuing underage chicks.

OR

 ProTip: Don't be a fucking pervert.

Posted by: Crazee at June 10, 2011 08:42 PM (H3ujh)

161 154 Posted by: StPatrick_TN at June 11, 2011 12:31 AM (D+phB)

Semper fi, my friend!  Plus, it will be even better now that Pelosi has backed off.  What will another week or two bring?  You know they're gonna start crawling out of the woodwork on this one.  The longer he puts it off, the more cringeworthy it becomes. 

OT, but has anyone checked popcorn futures lately?

Posted by: Peaches at June 11, 2011 12:36 AM (afUO


The way this story has developed thus far, my instincts say that  Rep. Weiner's closet is very large, and has comfortable accommodations for many many skeletons.  Lay in a stock of butter and salt, cause this may get awesome.  If it doesn't, you still have butter and salt.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at June 10, 2011 08:42 PM (D+phB)

162 >>> And since when has going to sporting events been the ultimate proof that a family is telling the truth about anything? I have many fond memories of being 16/ 17 and "going to sporting events". Hard to see the game from under e bleachers, never knew who won... but I had a great time.

Posted by: Damiano at June 10, 2011 08:42 PM (3nrx7)

163

ALL CREW TO THE GUN DECKS!!

Posted by: Richard at June 10, 2011 08:43 PM (+qNON)

164 Here is a BladeRunner nightmare; I bet the perverts prefer real children as oppose to a bio-robots programmed to think that they have souls.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at June 10, 2011 08:44 PM (EiH7n)

165 We have found nothing in Sarah Palin's emails to corroborate your story. Looks like Anthony Weiner is innocent. But you can count on us to keep looking!

Posted by: The MFM at June 10, 2011 08:44 PM (FcR7P)

166 >>>>125 Google doesn't cache private DM messages. When DM messages are sent, only two parties have the capacity to delete them, the recipient and sender. Safe bet Weiner deleted everything on his end, and the girl probably did her part as well by deleting incriminating tweets on hers. That means the evidence now only exists in backups on Twitter servers. Advanced computer forensics can recover just about anything she has deleted, if the agency looking into it has the capabilities and deems it worth the time to analyze her devices beyond a cursory look. The only snag here would be if his damage control advice included using software that would erase her drive and write junk data over it several times. I doubt it.

Posted by: DM! at June 10, 2011 08:45 PM (O0Qwy)

167 This is on Weiners website. He has no shame. http://www.weiner.house.gov/issue_display.aspx?id=844

Posted by: 2227 at June 10, 2011 08:46 PM (5FylJ)

168

One was about baseball. In another, he replied to a question she had about legislation by jokingly asking for her advice, the family member said. His third message to her was in response to a link she posted to a YouTube video of his giving a speech, with the message: “My true love.”

In a blog post on Tumblr, she later shared the contents of that private message from him. In it, Mr. Weiner appeared to liken himself to a superhero. I cam back large.  In charge. Cape and tights shit..." 

That last line about his large in charge response is not to her link to a video.  I dont care what you say.

Posted by: Perv2theCurb at June 10, 2011 08:46 PM (dh5Eu)

169 167 We have found nothing in Sarah Palin's emails to corroborate your story. Looks like Anthony Weiner is innocent.

But you can count on us to keep looking!

Posted by: The MFM at June 11, 2011 12:44 AM (FcR7P)


Addendum:  It's totally OK to beat it to strangers, cause that's the internet and not real, so rules don't apply.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at June 10, 2011 08:46 PM (D+phB)

170 I am sure that this is just like when Elvis wanted Lisa Marie to moving in with him. Perfectly innocent. Lisa Marie just wanted to learn about being a Vegas singer.

Posted by: Damiano at June 10, 2011 08:48 PM (3nrx7)

171 Is it or is it not cool to privately and personally speak with a 17 year old girl, for any reason, when you're a 46 year old man? Depends. Democratic Congressman or Catholic priest?

Posted by: t-bird at June 10, 2011 08:48 PM (FcR7P)

172 s and deems it worth the time to analyze her devices beyond a cursory look. The only snag here would be if his damage control advice included using software that would erase her drive and write junk data over it several times. I doubt it. 

The other "snag" is whether the cops have the will to analyze the data...
Blue Blue Delaware, home of Slow Joe, VPOTUS

Posted by: Perv2theCurb at June 10, 2011 08:49 PM (dh5Eu)

173 There is no reason,NONE to private message an underage girl.He should have been afraid of even the appearance of impropriety it would give.He didn't think anyone would find out.

Posted by: steevy at June 10, 2011 08:49 PM (vPX3n)

174 Hey, does anyone know how to turn one of those ankle monitors into a cock monitor?

Posted by: Anthony 'S. Weiner at June 10, 2011 08:50 PM (FcR7P)

175 >>> Addendum:  It's totally OK to beat it to strangers, cause that's the internet and not real, so rules don't apply. Oh sure. Just suck the fun out of everything why don't you! So you're telling me that I have to go back to peeking in windows to get my perv on?

Posted by: Damiano at June 10, 2011 08:50 PM (3nrx7)

176 There is no reason,NONE to private message an underage girl.He should have been afraid of even the appearance of impropriety it would give.He didn't think anyone would find out.

Posted by: steevy at June 11, 2011 12:49 AM (vPX3n)

Yeah I can't figure that out. Why would you even do it?

Posted by: robtr at June 10, 2011 08:50 PM (MtwBb)

177 This is still mind-numbing, that this scumbag hasn't had a search warrant slapped on him and his home and office and anything with a keyboard on it seized.

Posted by: Perv2theCurb at June 10, 2011 08:52 PM (dh5Eu)

178 Guys, I know you don't usually put honey mustard on a hot dog, but kids have strange tastes. Using honey mustard as lube is probably a veiled reference to a hot dog belonging to Weiner, weiner's weiner, if you will. She's signaling her willingness to accept Weiner's weiner inside her with that phrase. Yuck.

Posted by: Oschisms at June 10, 2011 08:52 PM (GqM5k)

179 The other "snag" is whether the cops have the will to analyze the data...
Blue Blue Delaware, home of Slow Joe, VPOTUS

You don't think they want him gone?  Hell, with the economy, foreign splodey adventures, and debt ceiling, I'd think that Weiner would be quite expendable.  The Precedent can't seem to handle any one issue - why add another?  Weiner will be roasted.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at June 10, 2011 08:52 PM (D+phB)

180 One day I went to lunch with her alone and decided it was just too weird. And I'm not even a lesbian, it was just the teenage factor.

Posted by: Joanie (Oven Gloves) at June 11, 2011 12:34 AM (y/+eD)

Dear Penthouse....

Posted by: Some Reader at June 10, 2011 08:53 PM (bgcml)

181  This is still mind-numbing, that this scumbag hasn't had a search warrant slapped on him and his home and office and anything with a keyboard on it seized.

Posted by: Perv2theCurb at June 11, 2011 12:52 AM (dh5Eu)

That could still happen, if the cops find anything fishy on her comp and phone.

Posted by: robtr at June 10, 2011 08:54 PM (MtwBb)

182 180 Guys, I know you don't usually put honey mustard on a hot dog, but kids have strange tastes. Using honey mustard as lube is probably a veiled reference to a hot dog belonging to Weiner, weiner's weiner, if you will. She's signaling her willingness to accept Weiner's weiner inside her with that phrase. Yuc

I'm interested in how you came by that knowledge.

Posted by: Chris Hansen at June 10, 2011 08:55 PM (D+phB)

183
You don't think they want him gone?  Hell, with the economy, foreign splodey adventures, and debt ceiling, I'd think that Weiner would be quite expendable.  The Precedent can't seem to handle any one issue - why add another?  Weiner will be roasted.

How many of those things have you heard about since weinergate has e v o l v e d?

Posted by: Perv2theCurb at June 10, 2011 08:55 PM (dh5Eu)

184

Weiner's chest looks like he may even have implants.

He has small dents/divets of muscle missing in otherwise large pecs, along the inside near his breast bone, that look like boob jobs gone awry in women.

The shaving and wanting to show off his chest could be partly because he's had work done.

Posted by: Who Knows at June 10, 2011 08:56 PM (1cx/R)

185 Even Sarah's Emails!!!!!!!!!!! have been eclipsed by this...

Posted by: Perv2theCurb at June 10, 2011 08:56 PM (dh5Eu)

186 And since when has going to sporting events been the ultimate proof that a family is telling the truth about anything? I found that part of her family's statement odd. Not so strange. What do they sell at sporting events? Hot dogs: also known as WEINERS. And what free condiments are provided free of charge at these events?? Mustard, or as a certain 17 year-old penis pincushion refers to it: SEX LUBE.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at June 10, 2011 08:58 PM (lGFXF)

187 The teen has been interviewed and disclosed no information regarding any criminal activity.

Has there been any definitive statement from the cops?

and Weiner's crisis management team said...

according to Congressman Weiner, his communications with this person were neither explicit nor indecent

And we all know we can believe EVERYTHING lil tony says?  Not.

The police said they were investigating several underage girls Weiner
was DM'ing with.

Posted by: Storm at June 10, 2011 08:58 PM (AZFgs)

188 If dear little "Ethel" has been deleting, and making sure her parents only saw the more innocent material, they are in for a shock.

Baseball, forsooth!

Posted by: Dianna at June 10, 2011 08:58 PM (mKMj1)

189
How many of those things have you heard about since weinergate has e v o l v e d?

Posted by: Perv2theCurb at June 11, 2011 12:55 AM (dh5Eu)


I'm guessing you read the same stuff I do - so more than most.  They'll play this until they can't, and then throw him out like a used rubber.  The destruction of the republic will continue apace.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at June 10, 2011 08:58 PM (D+phB)

190 I don't associate with such people. Also i don't hang around with sharia law assholes from Saudi Arabia. I really really believe that our country's heavy involvements with evil people weakens our overall principals.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at June 10, 2011 08:59 PM (EiH7n)

191 And if Weiner admits to 5 DM's there are over 10, based upon
the double the confession and then add some more principle my
ex employed.

Posted by: Storm at June 10, 2011 09:00 PM (AZFgs)

192 Another disturbing thought: this is only one High School, how many other individual underage kids did the predator stalk?

Posted by: Perv2theCurb at June 10, 2011 09:00 PM (dh5Eu)

193 I just heard on the radio news that House Democrats are saying it'll be a disaster if Weiner is there on Monday.

Posted by: Genetic Tunder at June 10, 2011 09:02 PM (dbYHP)

194 I was kinda palling around with this hilarious 19 year old coworker of mine not too long ago. One day I went to lunch with her alone and decided it was just too weird. And I'm not even a lesbian, it was just the teenage factor. You will be in the script that several morons will be fapping to tonight, sucker. And you'll have red toenails. I mean, maybe. I don't know where that came from.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at June 10, 2011 09:02 PM (lGFXF)

195

I found that part of her family's statement odd.

Posted by: Who Knows at June 11, 2011 12:40 AM (1cx/R)


Yeah, that sounded like Crisis Management Team BS to me


Posted by: Storm at June 10, 2011 09:03 PM (AZFgs)

196 Hope he's doing a perp walk Monday, right out of the rotunda...

Posted by: Perv2theCurb at June 10, 2011 09:03 PM (dh5Eu)

197 We're a perfectly normal family... Baseball games, licking mustard off each others genitals, etc..

oh wait.. NY Times can you edit that part? put in basketball.. yeah that makes sense

Posted by: Pocket Penis Fapping industries at June 10, 2011 09:06 PM (j0HwW)

198 OK, Weiner may not have tweeted obscene messages to this girl, but she obviously did to him. Why did he continue to respond to her knowing she had the "hots" for him?

Posted by: Donna at June 10, 2011 09:06 PM (bdE9c)

199 I know a guy who has a couple of daughters who, as teenagers, had crushes on me. I instinctively retreated from them all, including their father. That strikes me as the response of a normal guy in such a situation, at least in this day and age when anything can be misinterpreted... and actionable.

Posted by: Genetic Tunder at June 10, 2011 09:06 PM (dbYHP)

200 Bottom line: DMs on Ethel's computer?..NO DMs on Twitters servers? ...probably not If DMs were on T's servers ......would they release them ? no end of story

Posted by: #error at June 10, 2011 09:06 PM (y3lsZ)

201 Now congressmen in support will only go out with escorts that are over 22 1/32 years old or older.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at June 10, 2011 09:08 PM (EiH7n)

202 It's called priming the pump. She's not going to be underage forever.

Posted by: eddie baby at June 10, 2011 09:09 PM (ia/9v)

203 She's signaling her willingness to accept Weiner's weiner inside her with that phrase. Yuck.

Posted by: Oschisms at June 11, 2011 12:52 AM (GqM5k)


You are really quick deciphering that sex code talk.   jk

Posted by: Storm at June 10, 2011 09:09 PM (AZFgs)

204 Another tweet from "Ethel" to keep in mind is the one where she said, basically, "You used to follow me; don't forget me! #Yesweiner." I get the feeling from that that it was a threat. The fact that he re-followed her afterwards reinforces this impression. I think she already had something on him.

Posted by: Genetic Tunder at June 10, 2011 09:09 PM (dbYHP)

205 Dammit Ethel, you pretendin' to be a kid with that Congressman again?  Fix me a sandwich, I gotta go fix Ricky and Lucy's plumbing !!

Posted by: Fred Mertz at June 10, 2011 09:09 PM (so1xa)

206 Mr. Weiner, in your most recent press conference, you stated that none of the individuals that you DMed "characterized" themselves as being underage, but today you issued a statement attesting to 5 messages to a 17 year old high school student whom you met while she was on a class trip. Sir, for clarification, how old would you characterize a high school student on a class trip to be, on average? ... stuff that would be asked if real reporters existed.

Posted by: Damiano at June 10, 2011 09:13 PM (3nrx7)

207
This week has ruined me... I'm snickering about a

cache of tweets

Posted by: Storm at June 10, 2011 09:13 PM (AZFgs)

208

This has been avery good day.

 

Night M&M's

Posted by: Richard at June 10, 2011 09:14 PM (+qNON)

209

Went and looked again to be sure, and yes, Weiner's boobs look like they could be poorly settling implants.

Posted by: Who Knows at June 10, 2011 09:15 PM (1cx/R)

210 Never mind Publishers Clearing House. The Wienermobile's gonna pull up to this family's front door and pay off with a big stiff check.

Posted by: NICKIE GOOMBA at June 10, 2011 09:15 PM (jeLTI)

211 Good night, Richard!

Posted by: Genetic Tunder at June 10, 2011 09:16 PM (dbYHP)

212 What kind of congressman talks to a kid he's barely communicated with, using language like, "tights and cape shit"?

And why communicate with her privately at all? Why is it necessary to speak privately with a 17 year-old?

I don't know. I'm still skeptical.

Posted by: designczar at June 10, 2011 09:16 PM (/midq)

213 #213: Or hard cash.

Posted by: Genetic Tunder at June 10, 2011 09:16 PM (dbYHP)

214 209 Mr. Weiner, in your most recent press conference, you stated that none of the individuals that you DMed "characterized" themselves as being underage, but today you issued a statement attesting to 5 messages to a 17 year old high school student whom you met while she was on a class trip.

Sir, for clarification, how old would you characterize a high school student on a class trip to be, on average?

... stuff that would be asked if real reporters existed.

Posted by: Damiano at June 11, 2011 01:13 AM (3nrx7)

He'll just claim that when he said he didn't DM anyone underage he was talking about inappropriate DMs.  These were just all innocent.

If he's asked at least.  And whoever the reporter is will likely accept that explanation.  Because they want to believe he's innocent until he's proven not to be.  The opposite of a average person or a Republican who they will always assume is guilty.

Posted by: buzzion at June 10, 2011 09:18 PM (oVQFe)

215 Fair enough. Given the family would be angry at Weiner if there were some bad tweets here, I expect that's actually the truth of the matter.

Yeah, well, I don't know. Remember there are parents who still believe to this day that having their children sleep over with Michael Jackson was perfectly innocent, too.

Posted by: OregonMuse at June 10, 2011 09:19 PM (a+MmI)

216 Given the family would be angry at Weiner if there were some bad tweets here If they're hardcore libs, they (1) might have a different definition of "bad tweets", and (2) might be more protective of Weiner than of the 17yo girl in their family.

Posted by: Brendan at June 10, 2011 09:21 PM (2jQGY)

217

I could see how honey mustard could be used as a lubricant.  The acidity could serve as a spermacide just like back in Casanova's day when the women used a half lime or lemon peel as a cervical cap and the acidity of those worked the same way.

The condiment that really conjures up bacchanalia is mayonnaise.  Mayonnaise was invented by the Romans thousands of years ago.  You start with raw eggs yolks, which are almost pure colesteral and a good lubricant, and then you add a little redwine vinegar for that acidity plus a pinch of dry mustard.   Then you slowy drip in extra virgin olive oil while beating it steadily with a balloon whip for about 20 minutes and finish it off with a dash of lemon juice.  I figure mayonnaise was invented by sheer accident.

Those Romans loved their orgies. 

Posted by: Speller at June 10, 2011 09:22 PM (J74Py)

218 I just heard on the radio news that House Democrats are saying it'll be a disaster if Weiner is there on Monday. You guys better grab his follower lists while you can!

Posted by: t-bird at June 10, 2011 09:23 PM (FcR7P)

219 @218 +1 There is not a parent alive that would admit to the NYT that their kid was sending inappropriate messages to anyone. Even when their kid is a confirmed serial killer, all you hear from family is how nice, quiet, and loving they are.

Posted by: Damiano at June 10, 2011 09:24 PM (3nrx7)

220 Given the family would be angry at Weiner if there were some bad tweets here, I expect that's actually the truth of the matter. And she would never keep bad tweets from her parents...

Posted by: t-bird at June 10, 2011 09:25 PM (FcR7P)

221 The crime here is that Huma has been allowing Hillary to parade around the world in the horrific orange pantsuit. 

Posted by: Derak at June 10, 2011 09:26 PM (CjpKH)

222 Also, it's well-established that "Ethel" is Jewish. How do American Jews, such as her parents, tend to vote? Yeah, there's a very good chance they'd be willing to sacrifice their daughter's dwindling innocence to protect a strong, outspoken Democrat partisan like Weiner, who, by the way, is also Jewish.

Posted by: Genetic Tunder at June 10, 2011 09:27 PM (dbYHP)

223 There is no reason, NONE to private message an underage girl. For a high-functioning man, functioning once or twice a night? Come on...

Posted by: Anthony 'S. Weiner at June 10, 2011 09:28 PM (FcR7P)

224
Just so we all know, here's teh sleazy:

Ethel: HE IS MINE ALL MINE HE LOVES ME AND NO ONE ELSE ILY ILY ILY!!!
11 Apr

Ethel: @RepWeiner IÂ’m in love with you
13 Apr

Ethel: Watchin @RepWeiner on cnn <3
13 Apr

Ethel: Seriously talking to Representative Weiner from New York right now! Like is my life real?
13 Apr

patriotusa76: "@repweiner talking to high-school girls now. Freak."

Ethel: @sclancy cause representative weiner followed me back today and some sickos are trying to make a thing of it.
04/13/2011

Ethel: Seriously depressed that @RepWeiner doesn't follow me anymore. Yesterday was a great day!
15 Apr

Ethel: #turnon: married men.
05/02/2011

RT @RepWeiner: No politics on Mothers Day #JustDontMentionWomenEarn1/3LessThanMenForSameWork
05/08/2011

Ethel: @RepWeiner you used to follow me don't forget me!!! #weineryes
13 May

Ethel: SERIOUSLY LOVING LIFE AGAIN BUT I GOTTA KEEP MY MOUTH SHUT OR ELSEÂ…Â…Â….
15 May

Betty: Tweeps my progressive idol @RepWeiner is following me! Today is the best day ever!
May 16 from Twitter

Betty: Today also marks day one of my campaign to get @RepWeiner to be my prom date. Will you be my prom date @RepWeiner?
May 16 from Twitter

Betty: Everyone please please follow @RepWeiner and tell him to be my prom date!
May 16 from Twitter

Betty: Tweeps please tweet and follow @RepWeiner and tell him to be my prom date and use#RepWeinerBesDate
May 16 from Twitter

Betty: Follow the best progressive Congressman @RepWeiner he is a democrat who fights for us & against Republican trolls! #RepWeinerBesDate
May 16 from Twitter

patriotusa76: RT Please tweet and follow @RepWeiner & tell him to be my prom date>>Poor girl. We should warn her. @goatsred @tamale102280

Betty: It really sucks when one of your idols doesnÂ’t live up to expectations.
May 17 from Twitter

Ethel: I love today. I really do.
17 May

Ethel: IÂ’m in love with married men, #thatswhyimsingle
17 May

Betty: Well @RepWeiner unfollowed me. That was a short time. I defended him from people. Some thanks he gives to his loyal followers.
May 18 from Twitter

Betty: RT @: Funny that you said you had a crush on a married politician. Are you forreal?
May 18 from Twitter

Ethel: I DIDNÂ’T SAY ANYTHING PSYCHO GIRL. stop tweeting about me.

Ethel: IÂ’m in love with you.
19 May

RepWeiner Anthony Weiner
On CNN at 5 talking peace. #UsingFacts
19 May

RepWeiner Anthony Weiner
Oops, not 5. #UnlessYouAreInCali. 8 in east.
19 May

Ethel: Links YouTube video
Anthony Weiner Rips Apart Republicans on 9/11 Health Bill
19 May

Ethel: High School is a disgrace today
20 May

Ethel: Sitting in the chair where I first talked to my favorite Congressman )))))
21 May

Ethel: IÂ’m in love with you. I hope you know this.
May 22

Ethel on Tumblr: My true love.

Ethel: I love 69ing big hunt + like to use honey mustard as lube. Ohh yeahh baby I love bdh weiner
May 22

Ethel on Tumblr, quoting Weiner: “I came back strong. Large. In charge. Tights and cape shit…” My favorite congressman<3
May 26


Posted by: arhooley at June 10, 2011 09:29 PM (Jw/uD)

225
The crime here is that Huma has been allowing Hillary to parade around the world in the horrific orange pantsuit. 
Posted by: Derak at June 11, 2011 01:26 AM

We can deduce from the fact that Huma married Weiner that she is legally blind.

Posted by: arhooley at June 10, 2011 09:31 PM (Jw/uD)

226 Family Member: What the hell are you doing on that computer!! Kid: (slams down laptop screen & throws mustard under the desk) Homework!! Just ask the congressmen that I was tweeting about his member... errr... membership in Congress! Family Member: Oh. Well finish up. It's past your bedtime. Kid: I'll be getting off any minute now. Almost finished. (giggles)

Posted by: Damiano at June 10, 2011 09:32 PM (3nrx7)

227 Continuing from my comment at #225, I feel like I should probably clarify that I think the parents' motivation is to protect a fellow liberal first, and a fellow Jew second. Just on the off-chance that comment might've struck someone the wrong way.

Posted by: Genetic Tunder at June 10, 2011 09:39 PM (dbYHP)

228

Oh for goodness sake, I am beginning to lose track, I just realized the FB stuff that went to the LV Sun on Wednesday was from yet another woman, in Gerogia. I thought it was from the LV blackjack dealer.

How did this man find time to be such a blowhard on all the news channels with as many women (and girls) as he was juggling? Did he just use the same lame conversation over and over so he wouldn't get confused.

I mean, just wow. Just. Wow.

Posted by: ParanoidWorkingGirlinSeattle at June 10, 2011 09:40 PM (RZ8pf)

229 We can deduce from the fact that Huma married Weiner that she is legally blind.

Posted by: arhooley at June 11, 2011 01:31 AM (Jw/uD)

An "aha" moment.   Touche Turtle saves the blind! Cape and tights! And a stiff and mighty sword.

Posted by: Derak at June 10, 2011 09:41 PM (CjpKH)

230

"According to Congressman Weiner, his communications with this person were neither explicit nor indecent,” Ms. Heller said.

First four words of this statement speak volumes.

Posted by: sherlock at June 10, 2011 09:41 PM (thr9V)

231 Meagan in tx
Black jack dealer in vegas
hottie from GA
Comely Coed

Who am I leaving out?

Ethel
probably Betty & Veronica

come on SVU don't let us down!

Posted by: Storm at June 10, 2011 09:45 PM (AZFgs)

232 I detest Maher's politics, but that clip they have
of him over at Patterico is really, really funny.

Posted by: Storm at June 10, 2011 09:46 PM (AZFgs)

233 The dog that didn't bark, Sherlock?

Posted by: Storm at June 10, 2011 09:47 PM (AZFgs)

234 Sheriff Joe, where are you??!!

Posted by: sherlock at June 10, 2011 09:48 PM (thr9V)

235 I'd have gotten away with it, too, if it wasn't for those damned kids!

Posted by: Anthony "The Scooby-Doo Villain" Weiner at June 10, 2011 09:51 PM (dbYHP)

236 Sheriff Joe, where are you??!! I don't get it. I punch in all the letters and all I get is, "We're sorry, this number is disconnected or is no longer in service". And where are the pictures? These new-fangled Touch-Tone phones are beyond me.

Posted by: An Undisclosed Location at June 10, 2011 09:56 PM (FcR7P)

237 #237 The dog that didn't bark here is that fat stinking cur lying by the door, who will ony bark when a truthseeker tries to enter - the Mongrel Scabreous Mutt.

Posted by: sherlock at June 10, 2011 09:57 PM (thr9V)

238 Who am I leaving out?

The porn star.

Posted by: designczar at June 10, 2011 09:57 PM (/midq)

239 So Weiner says he had six partners...and he couldn't have been talking about the teens, so there must be at least one more adult partner yet to emerge.


Posted by: designczar at June 10, 2011 09:59 PM (/midq)

240 243 So Weiner says he had six partners...and he couldn't have been talking about the teens, so there must be at least one more adult partner yet to emerge.
________

The sixth one is probably Huma. I mean, how do you think he attracted her to him in the first place? Clearly, he so impressed her with his cape and tights that she decided to marry him.

Or maybe he tried the old "I put on my wizard robe and hat" routine...

Posted by: Anachronda at June 10, 2011 10:09 PM (6fER6)

241 I'm not up on details.  Are Ethyl's initials MH?

Posted by: late to the party at June 10, 2011 10:31 PM (ucq49)

242 We are just regular people who go to baseball games and basketball games, as ordinary and plain as can be.

Other issues aside, am I the only one who thinks this is an odd statement?

Just seems like an odd choice, maybe they're huge fans.

Jumps out of context.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 10, 2011 10:59 PM (bxiXv)

243 How the hell can her family consider them harmless when the girl was posting crap about 69ing and the use of mustard as lube? For her parents to claim that she is just a normal girl and everything was harmless, is bullshit.

Posted by: mike at June 11, 2011 01:35 AM (eZ5Jk)

244 Totally off-topic ( but not really, he was covering this, too... ) does anyone know what happened to Gateway Pundit? For 2 days all I get is a dark, denim screen when I try to go there.

Posted by: backhoe at June 11, 2011 01:59 AM (0bk6W)

245 backhoe:   I got it.  I think you may need to update your link. They have moved. Not sure why he wouldn't have a redirect.

Posted by: mike at June 11, 2011 07:02 AM (eZ5Jk)

246 I just cant stop reading this. Its so cool, so full of information that I just didnt know. Im glad to see that people are actually writing about this issue in such a smart way, showing us all different sides to it. Youre a great blogger. Please keep it up. I cant wait to read whats next.

Posted by: Sexy corsets at June 11, 2011 07:23 AM (1JgVd)

247 And the MFM does nothing but spout Weiner's line of defense. I guess they are all worn out pouring over the Palin emails

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 11, 2011 08:09 AM (ZZmN3)

248 i have liked this site too much i need more informative and helpful and nice topics here ...
thanks for having nice time

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