1 Are you going to believe us, or your lying eyes?

2 Mary Landrieu should use that for a campaign slogan.

3 Who needs Science?

4 Hard to believe someone would take that position, much less a scientist.

5

I saw The Body and I thought Landreau.

I'm a nerd.

The first step is admitting it.

6 Global Warmists need to be pilloried by the right like Christians are pilloried by the left. Or worse.  Havign Christians live nearby you is hardly ever fatal or expensive.

7 Warmists are a little off their game, we shot one of their biggest supporters in the eye recently.

8

Hard to believe someone would take that position, much less a scientist.
I'd agree that he's much less the scientist.

9 I love models because it's such a bitch to get imperical data to do what I want so as I can get the big grant money.

10 Flying two ultra-lights made of hemp into a weather monitoring station based in a parking lot somewhere does have an appeal ... to some ...

11

 I love models because it's such a bitch to get imperical data to do what I want so as I can get the big grant money.

 

I wouldn't say that.

12

Old and Busted:  Observation, measurement, and empirical evidence:

The New Hotness:  Models!  (i.e. making shit up). 

13 I'm not sure that's really a good analogy but I couldn't think of the Star Trek episode I actually meant to think of.

My brain hurts.

14 All you selfish bitches outside NYC need to stop creating all that evil CO₂. Now, bitches!

15 If I have a choice been old science and this new science, I'm gonna pick the one where I don't get soul-raped by a ghost with weird hair.

16 Observational evidence is not very useful

Right on!

17

SE's Cupps are on Beck right now.

I could make her change her views on deism

18

You could have gone with Spock being assimilated by the spores. It also has that agricultural, no technology setting the warmists would love us to live in.

And once you're assimilated, you're so damn happy...

19 >>Global Warmists need to be pilloried by the right like Christians are pilloried by the left. Or worse. Havign Christians live nearby you is hardly ever fatal or expensive.<< I'm thinking the Christians who go after global warming preachers ought to temper their ardor for mocking those who believe in something that has no empirical proof...

20

So what does an atheist call out during sex??

Oh...you. Oh...you. Oh...you.

21 Happy communing.

22 Hells yeah then that breathalizer I took is bullshit judge!

23 Ewwww... Cool.... so if Models are now Reality?  Those Warhammer 40K models I have??? Wheres my ARMOR!

24 4 Hard to believe someone would take that position, much less a scientist.

I'm a scientist.  I have lots of scientist friends.  You are a poor scientist, Mr. Mitchell.

25 (I just realized something.  Janet Napolitano doesn't blink.)

26 25 20

So what does an atheist call out during sex??

Oh...you. Oh...you. Oh...you.

Posted by: beedubya at May 13, 2011 05:10 PM (AnTyA)

Einstein?  Cosmic egg of the big bang?

Higgs-Boson? 

27

When I was teaching a class in South Korea, the topic was global warming. I asked the students, in a longish manner, what should be done with people that don't believe in global warming.

There was a knock at the door.

My Canadian co-worker, a very nice girl, 24, fresh out of university with an English degree, came in and said she could hear me in the next room and should I be telling the students such things like 'Many people don't believe in global warming.' I told her I was making a point, she said it seemed like a lecture. I stopped, quite upset, actually thought for a moment, decided it wasn't worth it and said fine, whatever.

I ended the topic quickly by asking the students what should happen to people who don't believe in global warming. 'Harley' blurts out 'Kill themm!' in a joking tone.

The incident still pisses me off. I still keep in contact. But still. Powerful religion...

28 7 Warmists are a little off their game, we shot one of their biggest supporters in the eye recently.

Heh. 

29 I'd really like to see these people held responsible - civilly and criminally for the damage they have caused.

30 You people just want a moat with alligators around the planet, don't you?

31 Don't you 'reach', Ace?

32 The physical consequences probably aren't very meaningful, either. After all, millions of invisible people are now "Climate Refugees". I dare you deniers to look an invisible climate refugee in the eyes and tell him you don't care about his plight!

33

Svensmark is the cosmic rays-clouds guy I linked here before.  Our position in the galaxy affects climate.   Unlike CO2, the correlations are actually strong.  CERN is looking into the physics with early positive results.  As opposed to CO2 warming the troposphere which has never been empirically verified.

But Warmism is so much more than science.  It's socialism for Green dummies.  

34 Herbert! Herbert! Herbert!

35 Psych lost me when they had to interject a jab at people who don't buy into the AGW bullshit.

36 Were the "clingers?"  I have always been open to "global warming"

*They refuse or get antsy to even acknowledge the suns possible role, makes me skeptical.

*That when you show them that huge statist authoritarian multi-billion dollar boondoggles wont budge things even .01% using their own models and they don't care, that makes me skeptical. 

*That they personally fly/travel/large homes/central air in such a way to say they don't care one bit about their own carbon output, makes me skeptical.

*they get antsy if you point out that
- CO2 is .04-% of atmosphere
-Argon is .9+% "
-Oxygen 20.7% "

*That CO2 levels waxed and waned much much higher lower long before humans were around they get antsy.

*They have pets but complain about your midsized car, which makes a fraction of the carbon?

Even after all that being repeated over and over I am still open to Global Warming being a threat, but I do wonder if they still beleive?

37 It's like communism. Who would have thought that so called "scientists" were such a bunch of commies? Then again, they did give the atomic bomb secrets to the commies...

38 What a coincidence.  Our models also work!

Stop pestering me with silly observations those damn fuel prices and food costs.


P.S. I won.

39 Got my PhD in WishCasting, mofos!

40 I'm still amused by the global warmists who tried to explain how warming was responsible for the coldest winter we've had down here in a while.

Joe Bastardi at Accuweather had a great video on the subject a while back.  I love that guy.  He's where I go for an actual forecast during hurricane season.

41 Climate change theories may be light on science, but it's got slogans and marketing out the yin yang! That's got to count for something, right?

42 Warmists want to build a moat around the country

43 ...the eff?? I was singing West Side Story songs in there not aware that I should have been doing it in this homolicious thread.

44 I'm thinking the Christians who go after global warming preachers ought to temper their ardor for mocking those who believe in something that has no empirical proof...

Posted by: railwriter at May 13, 2011 05:09 PM (bAh+U)

--True, but I haven't met a Christian yet who wants to get government to force me to tithe to his church.  His beliefs are harmless in this country.

45 Got my PhD in WishCasting, mofos!
From the University of Uranus, man? Me too!

46 "Damn you skeptics demanding evidence!"

47 When do the Broadway musicals start?

48 /Asshole in Chief sock

49

So what does an atheist call out during sex??

Oh...you AmishDude. Oh...you AmishDude. Oh...you AmishDude.

FIFY

50 PhD - Piled higher and Deeper or Permanent head Damage.

51 There are data collectors, theorists, and modelers.  Modelers are greedy ticks sucking off the other two. 

52 I'm gonna wash those Warms right outta my hair

53 I believe in G(ator) M(oats), 100%

54 From the University of Uranus, man?

Where is that again?  I can't quite put my finger on it.

55 I love models. all kinds.

56 So what does an atheist call out during sex??

It's the same old thing... "Can't you go deeper?"

57 Joe Bastardi at Accuweather had a great video on the subject a while back.  I love that guy.  He's where I go for an actual forecast during hurricane season.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 13, 2011 05:24 PM (UOM4

Have you been to his new site? He's no longer with Accuweather, he helped to create a new site called WeatherBell Analytics (can't linky, IE7 issues).

It has pretty cool radar but it's more of a subscription-based service.

58 fresh out of university with an English degree

Kill the humanities.

59

I usually post this:

CO2 is about 390ppm of the atmosphere, increasing 2ppm every year. 

What would happen if we started seeing the opposite?  How long before panic sets in that all the photosynthetic plants are going to start dying?

Historically CO2 has been 10-15x higher with no runaway global warming.  Plants thrived.  Animals thrived. 

But climate scientists now have a foul-mouthed rap video, so I guess we lose.   

60 Brain?! Brain?!   What is brain?!?

61

So what does an atheist call out during sex??

Oh...you AmishDude. Oh...you AmishDude. Oh...you AmishDude.

FIFY

Posted by: AmishDude at May 13, 2011 05:28 PM (73tyQ)

--We know that's what you say, but what would she say?

62 ...the sun couldn't possibly have caused recent warming.

Cratchit: Please sir. May I put another piece of fuel on the fire?
Lockwood: It would do nothing to warm the room you useless eater! Gaia Ackbar!

63 It's that damn Dihydrogen Monoxide.

64 Good science, like a crazy man on a subway, spends its time and energy disagreeing with itself.

Crazy dangerous science is like a rich women in an expensive car certain, arrogant, and undeterred.

Somebody throw these assholes down a well before they kill us all.

65 --We know that's what you say, but what would she say?

Oh science, oh science, ooooohhhh science!

/During a "miss" - Science Damn it! 

66
Weird science.

67 Our approach to influencing the weather was not entirely empirical either.

68 62 fresh out of university with an English degree

Kill the humanities.

Posted by: AmishDude at May 13, 2011 05:32 PM (73tyQ)

Ironically enough, math will kill the humanities when Western Civ officially goes bankrupt.

69 star trek sucks, that is all.

70

Posted by: Downsized Upscale at May 13, 2011 05:32 PM (IhHdM)

Which means the warmenists will switch their focus from CO2 to methane.  Science damn it! 

71 CO2 is about 390ppm of the atmosphere, increasing 2ppm every year.

Now let's not talk about retarded scientists who would conclude that it'll be increasing at 2ppm every year for all eternity, let's assume that happens.

In 200 years, the CO2 would double.

That's (oh, let's round off) 800ppm.

Here's what that means: If you have a greenhouse with 1,000,000 panels, the "greenhouse effect" that the CO2 would produce is equivalent of that greenhouse with 999,200 of the panels smashed out.

I don't care what kind of panels you have, that ain't producing a greenhouse effect.

There is far far far more Argon in the atmosphere and people don't even know what Argon is.

72

 

Speaking of weather and sex, just build an Orgone Accumulator and get both.

73 Argon, take me away...

74

--We know that's what you say, but what would she say?

Posted by: logprof at May 13, 2011 05:36 PM (BP6Z1)

Nothing.  Passed out.  Next to her twin sister.

75 There is far far far more Argon in the atmosphere and people don't even know what Argon is.

Is it something noble? 

76 There is far far far more Argon in the atmosphere and people don't even know what Argon is.

Posted by: AmishDude at May 13, 2011 05:40 PM (73tyQ)

The Argons knocked me off in at least two different episodes.

77 What does an atheist say instead of OMG?

78 Argon was named for Catherine of Argon.

79 >>Kill the humanities. Michael Mann, douchebag weather fraud extraordinaire, graduated with a degree in applied mathematics.

80

There is far far far more Argon in the atmosphere and people don't even know what Argon is.

Posted by: AmishDude at May 13, 2011 05:40 PM (73tyQ)

 

That was the bitch with the snakes on her head, right?

81
Landru is from the episode "Return of the Argons".

82 Argonaa go deeper?!

83
Well,
Gore @ Co. have very deep pockets now so hows about a class action RICO lawsuit alleging fraud?

84 Argonna Huffington

85 I think that big orange ball of fire at the center of our solar system may have an influence on climate.

86 Michael Mann, douchebag weather fraud extraordinaire, graduated with a degree in applied mathematics.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 13, 2011 05:42 PM (TMB3S)

I thought he dropped out of physics.

Let me tell you: "applied" is an adjective meaning "easier".

"Experimental" serves the same function in physics.

87 I think that big orange ball of fire at the center of our solar system may have an influence on climate.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at May 13, 2011 05:44 PM (qIHlG)

Not remotely.  It's not in any of our models.

Wingnut.

88 Landru is from the episode "Return of the Argons".

Well played.

89 If we would have taken the Argon Trail I wouldn't have had to eat my nephew.

90 At least Mann is just corrupt.  He doesn't actually believe the stuff.

91 Stop the Argon jokes, bitches

92 I diddled a model once. 

I hurt like hell, both mentally and physically, - from her callousness and indifference, - until I realized she was a storefront mannequin.

93

 

"...The name "argon" is derived from the Greek word áñãïí meaning "lazy" or "the inactive one"..."

94 >>I thought he dropped out of physics. Nope. Undergrad in math from Berkley, advanced degrees in physics and geology including PhD from Yale.

95
61 Downsized Upscale

My state, PA, just hit a mother lode of a natural gas field.

And the anti-drilling folks are already gearing up.

I wish we had gas on our property, but this area was checked out many years ago and they didn't find enough around here to be worth the effort. There's an old abandoned gas tower on the other side of the valley, and it just sits there smirking at us...

96 Hide the Decline.

97 I had sex with a girl in Oregon once

98 stalker post

99

The whole article is worth a read, even if it is a bit long.  It's a summary of an all-day scientific meeting between global warmists (including some of the most famous - and infamous - names in that camp) and skeptics of global warming, reportedly in pretty close to 50/50 balance in attendance.  I don't know of any previous global-warming meeting where that has happened.  The fact that 'warmers' and 'skeptics' actually spent a day together without any felonies being committed is itself rather remarkable, and kudos to the organizers for pulling off a meeting like that.

A couple takeaways:

- The two sides in the meeting had a great deal of trouble even agreeing on the right science to do, let alone the possible interpretations of the science:

On the science, there was little disagreement over the basics, such as the physical properties of CO₂, but the degree to which it drives the larger climate was greatly disputed, because the larger system remains a mystery

 

Even the basics of how different clouds affect temperature is guesswork

 

The telltale signature of greenhouse gas warming should be warming at the surface and in the troposphere, but not the upper stratosphere. It's even been suggested that carbon taxes should reflect the tropospheric temperature anomaly, rather than surface production. But while the models predict such telltale warming, the observational evidence shows it isn't there. More recently it has been cooling.

  

  

- John Mitchell, the conferee who uttered the pull quote about the uselessness of empirical data, sounds like one arrogant sumbitch.  He's also the one who, according to the article,

was review editor of Chapter 5 of the IPCC's most recent report (AR4) but hasn't been able to meet FOIA requests, despite the IPCC's pledge to keep all written expert comments on record for five years. "For my own part, I have not kept any working papers. There is no requirement to do so, given the extensive documentation already available from IPCC". 

Sniff.  So there, peasant. He also used chaos theory to support his belief in the power of models.  But that's bassackwards: the whole field of chaos arose from an otherwise good meteorological computer model that spat out nonsense because the data fed into it hadn't been precise enough.  Any computer model is only as good as the inputs built into it.  How does Mitchell know he has the right ones, that they're weighted correctly, and that they're of the appropriate precision?  (oh yeah ... that all must be in the work papers he doesn't have.)  I hope someone from the skeptic side called him on this.

  

  

- The work now being done on how cosmic-ray muons seed cloud development is fascinating.  It may turn out to show that an increase in the sun's brightness actually lowers the average temperature of the earth since more solar radiation -> more cosmic rays from the sun -> more ionization in the earth's upper atmosphere -> more cloud 'nucleation' (seeding) -> more clouds -> lower temps.  Stay tuned on this one.  Better yet: build your own cosmic ray muon detector and join the fun!

100
95 George Donner

If we would have taken the Argon Trail I wouldn't have had to eat my nephew.

Weren't you the one who said, "Don't pack so much food, we won't have room for the banjos"?

101

93  Hockeysticks! Mann's CGI presentation proves the sun is actually 99.3 million miles away. 

 

102

Well I have to agree about the observational value of global warming.  Here in Seattle, I have observed almost no warming due to the sun so far this year.

Science!

103 Posted by: FlaviusJulius at May 13, 2011 05:48 PM (qIHlG)

Thanks. I still laugh at "you should have chopped more trees instead of hugging them."

104 40 What a coincidence. Our models also work! Work? Models shouldn't have to work. We have other needs.

105

"People underestimate the power of models. Puny humans,  BOW BEFORE THE MODELS!"

106 The head of the international climate cult is a railway engineer.

107

Posted by: crisis du jour at May 13, 2011 05:52 PM (J1eJz)

Yes, it was a long article, but very informative.

I just wonder, was it filmed?

If not, then it should be done over. Except this time Broadcast on live TV.

Maybe call it Live Climate or something.

Hell, I'd watch it.

 

108 Next on the Agenda: Magnets: A model that shows how they work (hint: itinvolves micro-miniature monkeys)

109 Wow.  Just....wow.

110 Ironically, the poor folks in the world are going hungry because of Global Warmists. We're using our corn to fuel cars because of them.

111

What does Cheri Daniels call out during sex?

How the hell should I know, I'm never there. 

112

One liberal asshole I work with finally started to question AGW (after I pestered him with all the sleazy tactics used and the huge holes in the science).   I said 'but I thought the science was settled and it was all reality based n' hopey changey n scientifical n stuff!  What happened?'

Boy, do I know how to rub it in.  And I will continue...pointing and laughing at his dumb ass in front of our coworkers.  I don't believe these turds can be humiliated enough.

113 I'm working on  a model that proves without a doubt that John Mitchell owes each one us on this blog $132.16 per month.

114

Ignoring empirical data has been the ruin of many.

 

115 I have a model that uses chaos theory to write Hamlet involving a shitload of monkeys and a buch if typewriters.

116

Ignoring empirical data has been the ruin of many.

 

Posted by: Jackhole at May 13, 2011 06:29 PM (+qHxi)

 

Because this time it's different. Dumbasses !

117
 Okay, the Earth is either warming or cooling. According to the evidence this has happened over and over again. Don't give a shit.

  The only practical solution to either is to adapt to the particular, thus insuring, or maximizing, chances of survival.

 Consequently, this ongoing bullshit is meaningless.

118 I have a model that uses chaos theory to write Hamlet involving a shitload of monkeys and a buch if typewriters.

Posted by: Minuteman at May 13, 2011 06:30 PM (/FqjZ)

 

Isn't that how they wrote the healthcare bill ?

 

119 Okay, the Earth is either warming or cooling. According to the evidence this has happened over and over again. Don't give a shit.

  The only practical solution to either is to adapt to the particular, thus insuring, or maximizing, chances of survival.

 Consequently, this ongoing bullshit is meaningless.

Posted by: irongrampa at May 13, 2011 06:32 PM (ud5dN)

 

Change is not mandatory, neither is survival.

120

Actually, the more I think about it, the better the idea becomes.

Seriously. Live Climate, A Debate. Presenters from both sides, broadcast on PBS and BBC. Start on a Fri. Evening, and then run all day Sat.

Let the world see the difference between the 'Warmists' and 'The Skeptics', or however it needs to be presented.

And see how science is indeed presented.

121 Guys, be careful making arguments based on atmospheric concentrations.  They allow the warmies to dismiss you if you use them uncritically.

Shiggz, #38:  "*they get antsy if you point out that
- CO2 is .04-% of atmosphere
-Argon is .9+%
-Oxygen 20.7% "

AmishDude, #77: "There is far far far more Argon in the atmosphere and people don't even know what Argon is."

Both of you are right, but argon doesn't absorb infrared because it consists of single atoms.  Oxygen doesn't, because O2 can't change its dipole moment no matter how you stretch it.  (Ditto for N2, nearly 80% of the atmosphere.)

So when the overwhelming majority of the atmosphere doesn't absorb infrared radiation, it's not absurd on the face of it to say that CO2, which sure does, could have a major effect if it went from 240ppm to 390ppm.

The more interesting objection, as some here have pointed out, is that water vapor absorbs IR like all hell, and is much more abundant than CO2.  So if the earth warms, do we get more water vapor, and then more warming?  Or do we get more clouds, less light coming through, and a tendency toward less warming?

The fact that models don't have anything like a consensus on the balance between these is a big weakness in AGW predictions.  As is the fact that the more militant boosters of the theory blame everything, but everything, on it.

So when a warmy confronts you with something they consider clinching proof, and demand, "What else could it be?" remember this answer: It could be anything in the world that you don't understand.  In this case, maybe anything in the solar system.

122  Consequently, this ongoing bullshit is meaningless.

I met someone who so totally believes this shit, any mention that it's a fraud sends him into a rage. It's like telling a Muslim you want to spit on his Koran.

123 Isn't that how they wrote the healthcare bill ?

They could only spring for a pair of monkeys who spent a lot of their time masturbating each other.

124 "...The name "argon" is derived from the Greek word áñãïí meaning "lazy" or "the inactive one"..."
What do you mean, "the inactive one"? Argon's a gas--especially at parties!

125
  #127  perhaps not, depending on one's viewpoint, but both are desirable in given situations.

126

What this is all leading to? 

"Our models show that Obama will win the next election, so we don't actually have to have an election.  Interestingly enough, our models show that Democrats will hold a majority in the Senate and House for the next thousand years as well."

You know they really want to say that.

127

http://tinyurl.com/yc6uawu

Love this guy... turns out we DO have data on infrared absobtion from the atmoshphere... and it has NOT increased as CO2 has increased....

 

128 What do you mean, "the inactive one"? Argon's a gas--especially at parties!

Posted by: andycanuck at May 13, 2011 06:44 PM (Y1DZt)

Yeah... but its an Inert Gas...

/runs out of thread...

129 Cherry π: "What does an atheist say instead of OMG?" OYG

130

But climate scientists now have a foul-mouthed rap video, so I guess we lose.   

Posted by: Beagle at May 13, 2011 05:34 PM (sOtz/)

If you don't like rap you are racist

They have a rap about global warming

Therefore if you disagree with global warming you are racist.

Those are fucking facts bitch!

131

I have a model that uses chaos theory to write Hamlet involving a shitload of monkeys and a buch if typewriters.

"Whether 'tis nobler to endure bugs and maggots in your back hair

"Or to get hit square in the face with a handful of your best friend's caca."

That's how it should've been.

(Friggin' editors.)

132 Archons!!!  The red hour is so much fun!

133 Now I know why these guys an Krugman get along so well.

134 Hey, fake nerds, it's return of the Archons, not "argons." Get your shit straight.

135 47 Got my PhD in WishCasting, mofos!
From the University of Uranus, man? Me too!

Posted by: space hippie (I guess you can smell in space after all) at May 13, 2011 05:26 PM (Y1DZt)

Hey me too, pulled it out without and debt either

136 RE: 105 crisis du jour Thanks for that. I'm gonna pretend that I actually read the article now. I'm going to burn all the science books I can find so nothing like this ever happens again.

137 "Old science?"

I.Think.Not!

138

the Met's principle research scientist John Mitchell

 

Principal. Principal scientist. How can they make a mistake like that? -Everybody knows the Met Office doesn't have principles.

@

46 I haven't met a Christian yet who wants to get government to force me to tithe to his church.

Huckabee? Romney? Et c.?   (Big) Gov't is (part of) their church.

@

55

G(ator) M(oats)

Made in the USA by Gatorment Moaters.

139 Ace, are you thinking of The Borg, as in "You Will Be Assimilated?"

Uh oh, now I'm thinking about that hot Jeri Ryan as "7 of 9." If it weren't for her scumbag ex-husband BHO wouldn't be President.

140 In short, the day lined up Phil Jones, oceanographer Andrew Watson, and physicist Mike Lockwood, the latter to argue that the sun couldn't possibly have caused recent warming. He was followed by the most impressive presentation from Henrik Svensmark, whose presentation stood out head and shoulders above anyone else. Oh, line them up, line them up by all means ... then subject them to a fondly delivered round of kinetic projectile action. Lying, thieving assholes.

141 Why no Supermodels?  Aren't those better than models?

142 Science shmyience. We don't need those old thermometer thingies.

143 So what does an atheist call out during sex??

 O'Hair    ..      O'Hair

144 It must be wonderful to live life in theory....

145 I have a Masters in Modeling, Virtual Environments, and Simulation. That a "scientist" could actually say that a model is more useful than empirical data is a perversion of the field. His degrees should be revoked by the grantors. The first thing we learn about a model is that it is an approximation of reality. Some are better approximations than others. Your mileage may vary... That this man would expect us to believe that a model of this planet's climate is valid, given the complexities involved, is beyond ludicrous. He has in fact become a priest, preaching the faith. Another good question to ask warmies is how many means of heat transfer exist, and how many do climate models take into account? There are four, but most models only take radiation into account. And then there's the cloud cover and water vapor factors that these models don't even begin to address. You have come to the same conclusion; I'm only stating the scientific basis for your correct conclusions. AGW is as faith-based as any religion, and it's unfortunate that "scientists" have become High Priests" for this religion.

146 12 million muons passed through my body yesterday. And 12 million more had better pass through it today, by God, or it's game over for somebody out there and I'm not playin' around! You hear!

147

"People underestimate the power of models. Observational evidence is not very useful," adding, "Our approach is not entirely empirical."

It's called Post-normal science. It's almost, but not quite, entirely unlike science. It's similar to what Feynman called Cargo Cult Science.  It's all about eco-marxist advocacy using scientific trappings.

148 What're ya gonna believe...? My ever so beyond your ken computer model, or your lying eyes? Hmmm...?

149

The longer this goes on the more I think this started out as a typical university professor fund raiser - "You're all going to die if you don't give me the money to study this!!!11eleventy111!!! Then it got out into the wild and some fascist power players saw it for a monstrously great way to take over just about everything.

Pretty soon a lot of real scientists started looking it over and cried, "Shenanigans!!" Sheepishly, Jones, Briffa, Mann, et al began trying to cover up and hide all their tricks and scams so as not to be going to prison or worse yet, losing tenure.

It's time to bring back the pillory and public flogging.

150

Eco-wackos worshippers of gaia will demand more sacrifices of kids and virgins to their various pagan deities they pay homage to during their crazy earthday celebrations

151 Virgins you say, Spurwing....?? Cool, where do I sign up?

152 I'm thinking the Christians who go after global warming preachers ought to temper their ardor for mocking those who believe in something that has no empirical proof...<<

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