March 19, 2011

God Damn, a Shooting War In Libya
— Dave in Texas

Cruise missile strike.


In the strikes, 112 Tomahawk cruise missiles were fired at more than 20 coastal targets to clear the way for air patrols to ground Libya's air force.

While U.S. defense officials cautioned that it was too early to fully gauge the impact of the onslaught, the official said that given the precision targeting of the Navy's cruise missiles, they felt that Libya's air defenses suffered a good deal of damage.

The Golfer in Chief weighed in. ""We cannot stand idly by when a tyrant tells his people there will be no mercy," he said in Brasilia.

We cannot stand by idly while we figure out how to deploy these thingys on the big board.


Posted by: Dave in Texas at 06:43 PM | Comments (353)
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1 Authorization of Military force? Is it next to the Birth Certificate?

Posted by: Zakn at March 19, 2011 06:46 PM (zyaZ1)

2 We are more in involved than I wanted but it's done now.Good luck to our guys going in harms way,including the Brits,Frenchies and Canucks.

Posted by: steevy at March 19, 2011 06:46 PM (HYplm)

3 Unlike the left we never wish anything other than success to our arms.

Posted by: steevy at March 19, 2011 06:47 PM (HYplm)

4 Obama to Libyans: Hello from Rio! On behalf of the American people I have sent you 112 Tomahawk cruise missles! You're welcome!

Posted by: truthfairy at March 19, 2011 06:47 PM (eZuwV)

5 Iron Eagle 19: The Bedouin  Beclowning

Posted by: sifty at March 19, 2011 06:50 PM (PEjB1)

6 Nobel Peace Price Winner Juggles Three Wars -- While on Vacation

Posted by: USA at March 19, 2011 06:50 PM (YZISw)

7 I guess throwing beads for tits in Brazil isn't technically idle.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 19, 2011 06:50 PM (A/oSU)

8

The Golfer in Chief weighed in. ""We cannot stand idly by when a tyrant tells his people there will be no mercy," he said in Brasilia.

Iranian protesters in 2009 and 2011 were unavailable for comment.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at March 19, 2011 06:51 PM (K3iUm)

9 "Meanwhile Gaddafi's Latin American allies - most prominent among them Hugo Chávez, the Venezuelan president - have lined up to condemn the military strikes. The presidents of Bolivia and Nicuragua, Evo Morales and Daniel Ortega, joined him in denouncing the attacks as being aimed at getting hold of Libya's oil. Fidel Castro, ex-president and father of Cuba's revolution, also chimed in, saying the attacks represent western capitalist excess doing its worst." And of course Michael Moore is tweeting up a storm of asshole comments.

Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at March 19, 2011 06:51 PM (ijjAe)

10 So we jump in to depose K-daffy. That sure makes it easier for Iran and the muslim brotherhood.

Posted by: ck at March 19, 2011 06:53 PM (T7cdX)

11

Is this a suprise? I was under the impression that the wording of the resolution focused on protecting civillians.

It doesn't get more vague than that. I mean we could send Michelle Obama down there and to stop them from eating butter and I think that would be considered legitimate by this resolution.

When the resolution passed, I figured we would bomb their tanks, depots, air defenses, and military barracks. Then arm the rebels through egypt and hope they can overthrow Gawdawphee.

If not, don't be suprised if a cruise missle accidently lands on the crazy col.

 

Let's face it, we can't let him stay in power at this point. We're in to deep at this point.

Posted by: Ben at March 19, 2011 06:53 PM (DKV43)

12

On the bright side, that flatulent, hideous toad, Michael Moore is really po'd at Obammy (along with the Nation of Islam). No wonder he left town.

May God protect our men and women in harm's way.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky at March 19, 2011 06:53 PM (oTjfX)

13 Can we kick the shit out of Castro and Chavez too? Let's clean house.

Maybe the world can get rid of some tyrants while Barry tries to butch up.

Posted by: sifty at March 19, 2011 06:53 PM (PEjB1)

14 What the hell good is a country that's just one big sand trap, anyway?

Posted by: Barely Obama at March 19, 2011 06:54 PM (1KSBb)

15 If Michael Moore wringing his hands is wrong, I don't want to be right. That said, it would take an impressive display indeed to convince me that Obama has any clue what's going on. I rather like the notion that Hillary is running this- I'd at least feel like someone semi-competent is in charge.

Posted by: tmi3rd at March 19, 2011 06:54 PM (WRtsc)

16 So presuming those cruise missile are hitting C&C installations, is this blood for oil?

Posted by: 18-1 at March 19, 2011 06:55 PM (bgcml)

17 15 Emphasis on the semi but yeah,I agree.

Posted by: steevy at March 19, 2011 06:55 PM (HYplm)

18 God Bless the brave and good and punish the wicked and evil.

Let's hope it goes off without a hitch and not one more GI has to lose their life in an effort for a Democrat President to appear masculine.

Posted by: sifty at March 19, 2011 06:55 PM (PEjB1)

19 Are they still using the Ouija Board at the White House? or they just doing the whole chicken Voodoo thing now?

Posted by: gesc at March 19, 2011 06:56 PM (DKi9X)

20 Has Col KwaDaffy tasted American Tomahawk yet?

Posted by: USA at March 19, 2011 06:56 PM (YZISw)

21 I'm running the Navy using Twitter! @USNavy: Miss! @USNavy: C-8, hit?

Posted by: Generalissimo Barry de Janeiro at March 19, 2011 06:56 PM (FcR7P)

22 Who does Baracket have winning the Muslim Regionals?

Posted by: t-bird at March 19, 2011 06:58 PM (FcR7P)

23 The news channels are creaming their panties over all the hot juicy stories to cover. We're in Japan, now Libya, back to Wisconsin Shame Shame, Egypt , Radiation Poison,

Posted by: melvin's war at March 19, 2011 06:58 PM (3OCZw)

24   So our ruling class has assumed that they can send our armed forces anywhere in the world and insert them into any situation regardless of the benefit to us or threat against us and expect that we rise to our feet and  proclaim that we "support the troops"?

I hate to say this- but I don't support the troops. How can I when there has not been articulated a clear mission? Of course I don't want to see casualties and won't slander our soldiers. But this has gone too far. We have had for some time, a completely out of control foreign policy and a State Department that seems in many ways to be acting in spite of our interests and in some cases clearly against them. Get ready to accomodate yourselves to the hordes of North African "freedom fighters" that we'll be expected to welcome with open arms- we'll be feeding them soon and training them to take over our jobs.

I don't recognize this country today as the one I grew up in.

Posted by: sartana at March 19, 2011 06:58 PM (7Xm5b)

25 Obama Rio-ed; Libyans PO-ed.

Posted by: andycanuck at March 19, 2011 06:59 PM (7H/n0)

26 "More death, more war. They are the masters of war. What irresponsibility. And behind that is the hand of the United States and its European allies. They want to seize Libya's oil. The lives of Libya's people don't matter to them at all. It is deplorable that once again the warmongering policy of the yankee empire and its allies is being imposed, and it is deplorable that the United Nations lends itself to supporting war, infringing on its fundamental principles instead of urgently forming a commission to go to Libya." -Hugo Chavez wondering when he is going to get his ass bombed

Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at March 19, 2011 06:59 PM (ijjAe)

27


Thank you Great Satan for coming to our rescue and helping us remove Colonel Quadafy.  He is the son of a female dog but you already knew that.  We wish, also, to thank you for buying our oil so, when this all over,  we can get back to killing you, the Jews and being seduced by the temptations of your very desirable but whorish women. Praise Allah!

 

Posted by: Aphlegm waddi at March 19, 2011 06:59 PM (2o7Ys)

28 Maybe Ebola already abdicated and the word hasn't leaked out yet?

Posted by: eman: Japanese Babe Rescue Team at March 19, 2011 07:00 PM (G8NKv)

29 A good deal of damage?

Wow. That's great intel.

CDRM and all the other active duty morons: how would you feel going into battle with information like that?

Fucking amateurs are going to get our soldiers and sailors and airmen killed. And the whole lot of them aren't worth one of our men in uniform.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at March 19, 2011 07:00 PM (LH6ir)

30 sartana:

You like to say it. Or you wouldn't say it.

Posted by: sifty at March 19, 2011 07:00 PM (PEjB1)

31 "It's only cause we're defending the Libyan people from a tyrant! That's why we bombed the Saudis last wk! Hahaha. Pentagon=comedy" -Michael Moore desperately seeking a new dictator to rigorously masturbate to

Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at March 19, 2011 07:00 PM (ijjAe)

32

Posted by: sartana at March 19, 2011 10:58 PM (7Xm5b)

Don't worry, punk.  Your True Conservative Savior will ride in any moment now and fix everything.

Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at March 19, 2011 07:01 PM (F5R2Z)

33 we could send Michelle Obama down there and to stop them from eating butter
No guns and no butter. They'll both kill you!

Posted by: president o'bumbles at March 19, 2011 07:01 PM (7H/n0)

34 -Michael Moore desperately seeking a new dictator to rigorously masturbate to

Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at March 19, 2011 11:00 PM (ijjAe)


FTFY

Posted by: 18-1 at March 19, 2011 07:02 PM (bgcml)

35 We cannot stand idly by when a tyrant tells his people there will be no mercy. Oh, we already have? Well, we cannot stand idly by while France takes the lead. Oh, we already have? Well, let me be the first to suggest a No-Fly Zone. Aw, hell...

Posted by: Bathtub Admiral O at March 19, 2011 07:02 PM (FcR7P)

36 Hey Moooooooooooochele want to see some fireworks.... How I light a couple of Tactical Nukes off on say three or four Tomahawks over North Africa for a nice beach fireworks show !!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Barack "Kubla Kahn" Obammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmma at March 19, 2011 07:02 PM (zVOB7)

37 Nothing like a good war when you need to look all presidential and get your poll numbers up.

Posted by: ac at March 19, 2011 07:03 PM (z5gQd)

38 Oh, there is so much potential fun here with our libtard comrades.

How is this not war for oil?

Kolonel K. did not attack us.

Kolonel K. did much less to his people than Saddam did.

Kolonel K. also said he was getting rid of his nukes.

Why is it OK to attack Kolonel K and not Saddam/ Afghans?

Where is the authorization from Congress?

No more wars for oil!!!11!! eleventy!




Posted by: shibumi at March 19, 2011 07:03 PM (OKZrE)

39 Are the day people gone? I hope so. Their blond hair, rosy cheeks, firm handshakes. Hi night people. Please don't hug me.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at March 19, 2011 07:05 PM (EiH7n)

40

Isn't the way President Obama just wonderful the way he can multi-task.  Seriously, he is managing 3 wars, a nuclear crisis in Japan, the Wisconson crisis and still has time to take his family to Rio, with some friends, kick back and have a Mai Tai on the beach.  What a man.

 

Posted by: Tingles Matthews Reporting from the land of Oz at March 19, 2011 07:06 PM (2o7Ys)

41
And this one goes out to 400lbs of chickenshit and whale blubber stuffed in a burlap sack and named Michael Moore by a woman who should have stayed on the pill:

http://tinyurl.com/pd7xrf

Posted by: sifty at March 19, 2011 07:06 PM (PEjB1)

42 How is this not war for oil?
Duh! It's to protect European oil interests so it's okay. NPR says everything in Europe is better than here.

Posted by: libtard dumbfuck at March 19, 2011 07:06 PM (7H/n0)

43 or they just doing the whole chicken Voodoo thing now?

There is a rumor that Mrs. Robinson is a Santeria devotee!

Iranian protesters in 2009 and 2011 were unavailable for comment.

'specially the young female ones shot through the head, huh, Kratos?

Posted by: MissTammy at March 19, 2011 07:06 PM (BebB7)

44 Calling the President 'Golfer in Chief' in the middle of armed conflict is kinda unpatriotic, wouldn't you say?

Posted by: Cain's Pizzeria at March 19, 2011 07:06 PM (MUMm3)

45 6 Nobel Peace Price Winner Juggles Three Wars -- While on Vacation

Posted by: USA at March 19, 2011 10:50 PM (YZISw) 


Well, that pretty much says it all.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 19, 2011 07:07 PM (UOM48)

46 I'm on my way to Crawford, Texas to protest.

Posted by: Cindy Sheehan at March 19, 2011 07:07 PM (ZcjZ+)

47 Cain's Pizzeria Dissent is Patriotic, asshole.

Posted by: USA at March 19, 2011 07:08 PM (YZISw)

48 Don't you mean "having a My Lai on the beach", hater?!?!?

BTW, are you going to finish that pizza?

Posted by: michael moore's anus at March 19, 2011 07:08 PM (7H/n0)

49

I expect military recruiting offices to be flooded with liberals and progs by this Monday morning.

Time to walk the walk lefties.

Posted by: booter at March 19, 2011 07:09 PM (w43sl)

50 Dissent is Patriotic, asshole.

I concur.

Posted by: Sec State Hillary Clinton at March 19, 2011 07:09 PM (K3iUm)

51 Forgetting every vile piece of monkey shit that held a sign with Bush=Hitler for 8 years is pretty convenient, wouldn't you say?

Posted by: sifty at March 19, 2011 07:09 PM (PEjB1)

52 @47 not under boosh it wasn't.

Posted by: Cain's Pizzeria at March 19, 2011 07:09 PM (MUMm3)

53 I expect military recruiting offices to be flooded with liberals and progs by this Monday morning.

I can't support that.  Fuck the troops.

Posted by: Zartoona the Unforgettable at March 19, 2011 07:10 PM (F5R2Z)

54 They are now bombing Qadaffi's Bunker. Apparently it violated the no fly zone.

Posted by: Rocks at March 19, 2011 07:10 PM (th0op)

55 not under boosh it wasn't. You were an asshole then, and you're an asshole now, asshole. Get used to it.

Posted by: USA at March 19, 2011 07:10 PM (YZISw)

56 At the very least you'd think he'd have the courtesy to drop in and watch it go down on the big screen, Patriot Games style.

Posted by: Whatever! at March 19, 2011 07:11 PM (piMMO)

57 So, the people of Sudan or Zimbabwe or Egypt or Saudi Arabia or Cuba or Venezuela or any other craphole led by a dictator aren't worth a missile or two? Why are the people of Libya worth protecting, but others aren't?

Why am I not seeing people pointing out the obvious deal here?

UK and France are all hot to go to war in Libya, we really aren't. UK and France have significant financial interests in Libya, we don't so much.

I believe that it is MORE rational to get involved in someone else's Civil War / Revolution when you have vital financial interests than the nebulous idea of  "protecting the people".

After all, isn't it money that caused France to support the revolutionaries in ye olde American Colonies?

Posted by: Less at March 19, 2011 07:11 PM (PGXeZ)

58

So is it OK for a Black Man to kill Muslims but not a White Man ??? Where is the outrage Wolf Blitzer and Christian Ama-Fuckstain-pour?  Hey Obama why don't you just dump a couple of Nukes in Tripoli to show that big bad mean Qadaffi  Who da man is ???

Posted by: John Hipkins at March 19, 2011 07:11 PM (zVOB7)

59 The military is about the only part of government where most of the humans are not insane.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at March 19, 2011 07:12 PM (EiH7n)

60

This is a war for oil (Europe's)!!!

They never attacked us!!!!

Obama is a war mongering, racist, murderer!!

Obama is a terrorist!!!

Posted by: beedubya at March 19, 2011 07:13 PM (AnTyA)

61

112!!!!  for 20 targets?

overkill much?  whoever the hell did the planning for this should be fired

Posted by: navycopjoe at March 19, 2011 07:13 PM (EOu3d)

62 Calling the President 'Golfer in Chief' in the middle of armed conflict is kinda unpatriotic, wouldn't you say? Well, calling him the 'Commander-in-Chief' in the middle of a round was a bit of a stretch.

Posted by: t-bird at March 19, 2011 07:13 PM (FcR7P)

63 Obama wants to eradicate brown people!!!

Posted by: beedubya at March 19, 2011 07:14 PM (AnTyA)

64 Hey! I have to spend some time with my homies!! Dilma Rousseff, Brazil's first woman president, is a former leftist militant who rose through the ranks of the Workers' Party and will now lead one of the world's fastest-growing emerging economies.

Posted by: Don't Make me Say it Again! I won assholes! at March 19, 2011 07:14 PM (DKi9X)

65 Obama lied, Libyans Died!

Posted by: sifty at March 19, 2011 07:14 PM (PEjB1)

66 Another case of Muslim on Muslim violence.  Who do you think you are brother?

Posted by: Calipso Louis Farrakan at March 19, 2011 07:14 PM (2o7Ys)

67 Funny that he makes Hillary announce that they're wagging the dog, what, a day after she says she won't be back?

Posted by: t-bird at March 19, 2011 07:14 PM (FcR7P)

68 There is only one reason this war is being prosecuted.  Libya's army equipment is 30 years old and paltry at that. the only way France is going to attack anyone is if they are sure they will win. Which means this is sure to fail.

Myself? I blame the Friday song for this.

Posted by: Rocks at March 19, 2011 07:14 PM (th0op)

69

53  I can't support that.  Fuck the troops.

but i can support the use of birth control in your case.  Fuck your mom

Posted by: navycopjoe at March 19, 2011 07:15 PM (EOu3d)

70

Why do I get the feeling that attacking Libya somehow is in Soros' best interest, whereas helping Iran wasn't.  Follow the money.

Posted by: Cardinal Biggles at March 19, 2011 07:15 PM (ngvie)

71

Cain, disrespectful like this ;

14 Aug 2007 ...  Barack Obama, our troops in Afghanistan are "just air-raiding villages and killing civilians". 8/13/07.

shut up.

Posted by: willow at March 19, 2011 07:15 PM (h+qn8)

72 My son home on leave and I took a trip over to Parris Island yesterday.  Normally, they have graduation every Friday.  There was no graduation yesterday.

The whole depot felt like a ghost town.  My son shopped in the MCX, which seemed nearly empty, and we had lunch in the Backyard Burgers.  There were maybe five people in there in the middle of the afternoon.

I know the military is cutting back.  What a strange time to be doing so when we're involved in another war.  And if we don't end up with land troops in Libya, it'll be a miracle.  Praise Obama, that fuck.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 19, 2011 07:16 PM (UOM48)

73 So when are the Lib Tards from Brattleboro Vermont going to call for Obama's Arrest? They quick to to do that shit with Bush. Well little lib idiots from Obamaboro, VT where is the outrage ? Obama the war criminal !!!!!!!! You little idiots could screw up me dogs wet dream !!!!!!!!

Posted by: Jim Gorgan at March 19, 2011 07:16 PM (zVOB7)

74 Launch missles in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, Fore!

Posted by: We are the ones we have been waiting fore! at March 19, 2011 07:16 PM (2o7Ys)

75 So is it OK for a Black Man to kill Muslims... Ooh, good point. If DJ K-Daff fights back, it's because he's a racist.

Posted by: t-bird at March 19, 2011 07:16 PM (FcR7P)

76

112!!!!  for 20 targets?

overkill much?  whoever the hell did the planning for this should be fired

Posted by: navycopjoe at March 19, 2011 11:13 PM (EOu3d)
 

The worst part is the Tomahawks cost more than they equipment they took out. They could have used Sidewinders.

Posted by: Rocks at March 19, 2011 07:17 PM (th0op)

77

The worst part is the Tomahawks cost more than they equipment they took out. They could have used Sidewinders

...or even M-80s tied to bottle rockets

Posted by: beedubya at March 19, 2011 07:19 PM (AnTyA)

78

76  a cool one million each, or they where back in '98 when we tossed ours

on a side note, there is nothing cooler than watching the tomahawks launch while eating ice cream on the fantail

sniff sniff, good times, good times

Posted by: navycopjoe at March 19, 2011 07:19 PM (EOu3d)

79 Poor Cain,  at all those demonstrations holding kill Bush signs and burning him and the Flag. saying no war for oil! and Bush Murder and warmonger.  the polie came along and imprisoned him for dissent.

Posted by: willow at March 19, 2011 07:20 PM (h+qn8)

80 So, when do lefty tears begin to flow??

Seriously. 

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 19, 2011 07:21 PM (UOM48)

81 Worst. Basketball thread. Ever.

Posted by: Dr Spank at March 19, 2011 07:21 PM (1fB+3)

82

78 oh to expand, you know how sailors know they are about to do live warshots?

they have an ice cream social

Posted by: navycopjoe at March 19, 2011 07:21 PM (EOu3d)

83 This action will be over in a matter of days. Heck, I bet it will all be over before I get back from vacation. Now watch this drive.

Posted by: Golfer in Chief at March 19, 2011 07:22 PM (3nrx7)

84 19 Are they still using the Ouija Board at the White House? or they just doing the whole chicken Voodoo thing now? I wish it was just voodoo.

Posted by: The Chicken at March 19, 2011 07:22 PM (h35AH)

85 Where will the MFM be with dreadful pictures of women and children ripped to pieces by our evil Tomahawks? 

Wait....I forgot...Barky and his unicorns are in charge now.  All is well. 

The libtards will sleep well tonight.  Bless their fucking hearts.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 19, 2011 07:23 PM (UOM48)

86

80  they won't, they are too busy comparing idiotboy to reagan

but, tomorrow is the 8th anniversary of the war, thing the protesters will bring up the libya attack?

Posted by: navycopjoe at March 19, 2011 07:23 PM (EOu3d)

87 How is it legal for us to remove a democratically elected leader?  The election was certified by Jimmy Carter himself.

Posted by: Rocks at March 19, 2011 07:24 PM (th0op)

88 Ghaddafi has some small stocks of mustard gas left.  Will he deploy that as a final FU to his citizens? 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at March 19, 2011 07:24 PM (K3iUm)

89 The spin on tomorrow's talk shows may reset the Earth's axis of rotation back to where it was before the Japan quake.

Posted by: eman: Japanese Babe Rescue Team at March 19, 2011 07:24 PM (G8NKv)

90 84 19 Are they still using the Ouija Board at the White House? or they just doing the whole chicken Voodoo thing now?

I wish it was just voodoo.

Posted by: The Chicken at March 19, 2011 11:22 PM (h35AH) 


Sucks to be you, but rumor has it Moochelle's mom is into Santaria. 

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 19, 2011 07:25 PM (UOM48)

91 How is this not war for oil?

Speaking of, when I was out on the West Coast, there were three things on television that shared just about equal air time:

The situation in Japan
Shake Weight commercials
RT ads

What the fuck is that all about?

Posted by: Whatever! at March 19, 2011 07:25 PM (piMMO)

92 "we" will succeed, but we could have succeeded a lot earlier and a lot less expensively had our "leader" had balls 3 weeks ago.

Posted by: Douglas at March 19, 2011 07:26 PM (YKOnu)

93 88 Ghaddafi has some small stocks of mustard gas left.  Will he deploy that as a final FU to his citizens? 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at March 19, 2011 11:24 PM (K3iUm)  


And will Anderson Cooper's hair be mussed? 

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 19, 2011 07:26 PM (UOM48)

94 @88 Mustard gives me gas too. Gadaffi and I have a lot in common. I bet that he wishes that he was President of China too.

Posted by: Golfer in Chief at March 19, 2011 07:26 PM (3nrx7)

95 How in the hell will there be no civilian casualties Mr. Presa-Dense?  Just level the whole country and see who is left? See what happens when you have a panty waste Lib trying to be a tough guy...It don't work little man-child. You are still are a joke and what happens when we get a terrorist attack in response to your ill thought out plan douche bag in chief? Is it Booooooosh's fault waste bag?  When do the war crimes trials begin in the Hague for killing innocent peaceful Muslims? Why is Lybia importantant and not Egypt?  I cannot wait for 2012 to send this traitor back to Indonesia !!!!!!!!

Posted by: Frank Stien at March 19, 2011 07:26 PM (zVOB7)

96 I really don't have an opinion yet on the right or wrong of this venture. I might have one if I could hear the thoughts on it from someone with a little authority, someone whose opinion I respect. Has anyone heard what Keith Olbermann has to say about all of this?

Posted by: PoconoJoe at March 19, 2011 07:27 PM (0IsA7)

97 92 "we" will succeed, but we could have succeeded a lot earlier and a lot less expensively had our "leader" had balls 3 weeks ago.

ITC brought up a good point the other day - we could have just let Ghaddafi go into exile with most of his wealth and none of this would have been required. 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at March 19, 2011 07:27 PM (K3iUm)

98 Japan = Oh noez our sushi supply is gone!111! Shake Weight = Female bosom action RT ads = meh

Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at March 19, 2011 07:28 PM (ijjAe)

99

To all my critics out there

Silence!  I keel you!

Posted by: Achmed Obama at March 19, 2011 07:29 PM (ngvie)

100 I guess we'll be seeing Code Stink smearing blood on Hilary Clinton.

Posted by: Dr Spank at March 19, 2011 07:30 PM (1fB+3)

101 As long as I finally get my free gas!

Posted by: Peggy Joseph at March 19, 2011 07:30 PM (RnujI)

102 We can only hope his white half is killing the brown people.  His black half would never do such a thing.

Posted by: NPR, were never judgemental at March 19, 2011 07:30 PM (2o7Ys)

103 As long as they're being so liberal with their use of tomahawks (112 for 20 targets? really?), I hope one happens to veer off course in al Megrahi's direction.

Posted by: Roy at March 19, 2011 07:30 PM (arjdO)

104 I've been holding out for an invitation to one of Gadaffi's bunga-bunga parties. The post office assured me that if the invitation were in the mail, it would have arrived by Tuesday.

Posted by: Golfer in Chief at March 19, 2011 07:30 PM (3nrx7)

105 "we" will succeed, but we could have succeeded a lot earlier and a lot less expensively had our "leader" had balls 3 weeks ago. Posted by: Douglas at March 19, 2011 11:26 PM (YKOnu) A certain Alaskan said to do this shit three weeks ago.

Posted by: eman: Japanese Babe Rescue Team at March 19, 2011 07:31 PM (G8NKv)

106 After all, isn't it money that caused France to support the revolutionaries in ye olde American Colonies?

And they hated Britain.  Much like a certain sonuvakenyan.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 19, 2011 07:32 PM (0vDuM)

107 As long as they're being so liberal with their use of tomahawks (112 for 20 targets? really?)... Didn't Bill fire 20,000 cruise missiles into Kosovo, seriously depleting us?

Posted by: t-bird at March 19, 2011 07:33 PM (FcR7P)

108 ITC brought up a good point the other day - we could have just let Ghaddafi go into exile with most of his wealth and none of this would have been required. 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at March 19, 2011 11:27 PM (K3iUm)


That is probably what will happen in the end if they really back up the rebels, but they won't. Qaddafi didn't leave because he knew he would win. Hell he already has. It's just a matter of waiting now. They could take out every scrap of heavy equipment Qaddafi has the army would still still win with small arms, it's clear the rebels are a joke. that's why they are already bombing his bunker hoping for a quick kill. I'd bet he's nowhere near Tripoli.

Posted by: Rocks at March 19, 2011 07:33 PM (th0op)

109 I wonder what they are saying at Crooks and Liars.  I will be back with an update.

Posted by: Ohio Dan at March 19, 2011 07:34 PM (2o7Ys)

110 A certain Alaskan said to do this shit three weeks ago. ... Yeah, but she's just a stupid, snowbilly, war monger, racist, tea bagger. Our beloved messiah takes his time and carefully considering every option before deciding to be the last person to do what everyone else is doing, then going on vacation.

Posted by: MSM at March 19, 2011 07:35 PM (3nrx7)

111

Bombing Libya: Airstrike open a coalition war against a mad dictator

I'm almost never in favor of going to war, but at least against Libya there is a real lifesaving component involved, and at least this time it's multilateral.

And the hypocritical hits just keep on coming. 

Posted by: Ohio Dan Reporting on C&L at March 19, 2011 07:37 PM (2o7Ys)

112 Yeah, but she's just a stupid, snowbilly, war monger, racist, tea bagger.

With breatesess. Don't forget that. It matters.

If she were stick thin and flat-chested, none of the rest would matter. The fact that she's smart, witty and great looking and feminine makes them all the more crazy.

Posted by: Whatever! at March 19, 2011 07:38 PM (piMMO)

113 They could take out every scrap of heavy equipment Qaddafi has the army would still still win with small arms, it's clear the rebels are a joke. that's why they are already bombing his bunker hoping for a quick kill. I'd bet he's nowhere near Tripoli. Posted by: Rocks at March 19, 2011 11:33 PM (th0op) This will lead to foreign troops in Benghazi and the setting up of a provisional government.

Posted by: eman: Japanese Babe Rescue Team at March 19, 2011 07:38 PM (G8NKv)

114

Bombing Libya: Airstrike open a coalition war against a mad dictator

I'm almost never in favor of going to war, but at least against Libya there is a real lifesaving component involved, and at least this time it's multilateral.

BTW that was from C & L

Posted by: Ohio Dan Reporting on C&L at March 19, 2011 07:39 PM (2o7Ys)

115 " As long as they're being so liberal with their use of tomahawks (112 for 20 targets? really?), I hope one happens to veer off course in al Megrahi's direction." I wonder if they were cluster munitions to destroy aircraft on the ground and AA batteries? 20 targets could mean entire installations which were hit thoroughly.

Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at March 19, 2011 07:39 PM (ijjAe)

116 This will lead to foreign troops in Benghazi and the setting up of a provisional government.

Whose foreign troops? 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at March 19, 2011 07:40 PM (K3iUm)

117 The UN only gave permission for the missiles to fly over Lybia. After 21 more resolutions Barry can attack.

Posted by: lazrtx at March 19, 2011 07:40 PM (WvqFW)

118 Our son just came downstairs from ironing his dress blues for church tomorrow.  He still doesn't understand my love for the Moron Nation.

He just said "Tell those guys hi, and thanks for the prayers".

So there's that.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 19, 2011 07:41 PM (UOM48)

119

the lefty left Obama butt kissers. You know the Rethuglicans made Him do this, He would never..

or Lefty left Obama butt kissers. He is so shmart, He considered every detail, spent weeks studying the issue and decided the best action were to save the people ! swoon. Kadaffi was always a murdering thuggish bastard that we all knew had to go . Obama has drawn the line in the sand. and found His voice. swoon, tingle

 

Posted by: willow at March 19, 2011 07:41 PM (h+qn8)

120
That's a cheap shot, Sifty. And leave it WarUndedStates to find a way to make this about Christine O'Donnell.

Here's Andrew McCarthy's dissent from National Review's decision to go to war.

It's up to the citizenry to place restraint on an out of control government. This rush to war without even faking an effort to achieve consent or consensus is a sign that we've gone completely unbound.

Posted by: sartana at March 19, 2011 07:41 PM (7Xm5b)

121 I didn't know Lybia had 112 aspirin factories??

Posted by: lazrtx at March 19, 2011 07:41 PM (WvqFW)

122 I am a little confused. Are Libyan buildings and tanks flying? Is that why we are enforcing the no-fly one with cruise missiles and JDAM's?

Posted by: Marcus at March 19, 2011 07:42 PM (w114B)

123 "Whose foreign troops?" The French Foreign Legion has a long history of kicking ass in Africa. Ever seen 'March or Die'?

Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at March 19, 2011 07:42 PM (ijjAe)

124 Meanwhile on FOX: Geraldo dutifully reports on today's breaking news: 3 Mile Island (with mo mention that precisely NO ONE was killed) and advice from some jackass hocking a radiation detector that should be a staple of every American home.

Posted by: Damiano at March 19, 2011 07:43 PM (3nrx7)

125 Whose foreign troops? Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at March 19, 2011 11:40 PM (K3iUm) Short straw or a mix.

Posted by: eman: Japanese Babe Rescue Team at March 19, 2011 07:43 PM (G8NKv)

126 Um, how exactly do we know when we have "won" this war?

Posted by: Bill Mitchell at March 19, 2011 07:43 PM (x3Anv)

127 Yup, the common taters at C&L are saying it's for oil.  At least they are consistant.

Posted by: Ohio Dan at March 19, 2011 07:43 PM (2o7Ys)

128

Jane,

Please tell your son 'thank you' for his dedication and service, and I will pray for him at Mass tomorrow.

Posted by: Cardinal Biggles at March 19, 2011 07:43 PM (ngvie)

129 Ojugears didnlt want to be out done by the french. The ultimate humiliation.just my take of course.but this guy doesn't make a move unless he thinks it benefits him.

Posted by: ziptie at March 19, 2011 07:43 PM (Iq64H)

130 So can I assume that the libs will be protesting in the streets chanting "No Blood for Oil" tomorrow?

Or are they finally done with that line?

Posted by: NC Ref at March 19, 2011 07:44 PM (/izg2)

131 his dress blues

BUNK! (Sorry, Jane...couldn't help myself)

Posted by: MissTammy at March 19, 2011 07:44 PM (BebB7)

132 This will lead to foreign troops in Benghazi and the setting up of a provisional government.

Posted by: eman: Japanese Babe Rescue Team at March 19, 2011 11:38 PM (G8NKv)


Ain't happening. The French aren't doing it and the British aren't going to after that clusterfuck with the attempted meeting and their people being captured. The only way the Italians are showing up is if Bunga Bunga is involved.  This is just a naked attempt to take Daffy out by missile because they know he wins any other way.

Posted by: Rocks at March 19, 2011 07:46 PM (th0op)

133 Um, how exactly do we know when we have "won" this war? Gallup will tell us.

Posted by: t-bird at March 19, 2011 07:46 PM (FcR7P)

134 I didn't know Lybia had 112 aspirin factories?? Posted by: lazrt You crack me up much like an earthquake and a tsunami.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at March 19, 2011 07:46 PM (EiH7n)

135 Well, look at the bright side-the Tomahawk production lines will be busy replacing what we shot off, so Barry finally hit on a stimulus for private sector jobs.

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at March 19, 2011 07:48 PM (0IPsJ)

136 Um, how exactly do we know when we have "won" this war? When my poll numbers go back up to Jan. 2009 levels and I win a sweeping reelection.

Posted by: Golfer in Chief at March 19, 2011 07:48 PM (3nrx7)

137 2 things...God bless and keep safe all US servicemen in harms way.  May success come swiftly and with no casualties. 

Secondly, it will be interesting to see how the international press treats civilian causalities and that collateral damage that's sure to be part of this operation.  Will they print any stories, photos, etc that will politically harm The President of the World?

Posted by: The Hammer at March 19, 2011 07:48 PM (32ubA)

138 "Um, how exactly do we know when we have "won" this war?" When Col Crazy is dead. The city's are controlled by a somewhat reasonable government or operating as stable independent city states. And of course the French have secured of the oil infrastructure ensuring their supply remains uninterrupted. If Col Crazy wasn't killing his people en mass after threatening the oil supply to France, and the rest of Europe, this wouldn't be occurring. The happy fuzzy feeling of saving lives from a trigger happy dictator is just a bonus for securing critical resource infrastructure for the Eurozone.

Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at March 19, 2011 07:48 PM (ijjAe)

139

rose through the ranks of the Workers' Party and will now lead one of the world's fastest-growing emerging economies.

Not for long.  Prediction: Ireland 2.0.

Posted by: AmishDude at March 19, 2011 07:49 PM (yAOMt)

140 Drew, can we please get a reban on the miscarriage mocking asshole known as palin steele aka Cain's Pizzeria?

Posted by: buzzion at March 19, 2011 07:49 PM (oVQFe)

141 120:

This is a Representative Republic.

It is not 435BC Athens with everyone yelling and getting to vote on strategy and how many triremes we send. Or get to vote on exile for our generals if they get defeated.

Fuck National Review. If I wanted the opinion from the fucking golf course clubhouse I'd ask Obama.

Posted by: sifty at March 19, 2011 07:49 PM (PEjB1)

142

Posted by: sartana at March 19, 2011 11:41 PM (7Xm5b)

I must have missed the part where Andrew McCarthy said "I don't support the troops", you simpering bitchfuck asshole.

And Christine O'Donnell?  Seriously?  Even in THIS thread, TODAY, you have her on the brain?  Pathetic....

Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at March 19, 2011 07:51 PM (F5R2Z)

143 Ojugears didnlt want to be out done by the french. The ultimate humiliation.just my take of course.but this guy doesn't make a move unless he thinks it benefits him.

Posted by: ziptie at March 19, 2011 11:43 PM (Iq64H)

The French will never outdo me. I'll definitely be the first to surrender from this little escapade!

Posted by: B. Hussein Obama at March 19, 2011 07:51 PM (WDUMs)

144 The difference between Libya 2011 and Iraq 2003?  France's perception of its own national interest.

It would have been amusing if we had the stones to fuck them over with the U.N. Security Council this time around, though I know the current French government is not the one that dicked us in 2003.

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at March 19, 2011 07:52 PM (0IPsJ)

145 Dear Pogue n Chief: Nice to have you celebrate the 8 year anniversery of the Iraq bombing with your own smack-down.  This blows.  American servicemen and servicewomen die for Americans not for this...this... what ever this is.


Posted by: Dblwmy at March 19, 2011 07:52 PM (RVeOP)

146 Um, how exactly do we know when we have "won" this war? When France says so. Or Norway or Britain.. ... whoever speaks first and corresponds with the latest Gallup numbers.

Posted by: Golfer in Chief at March 19, 2011 07:52 PM (3nrx7)

147

Let me be perfectly clear...there will be no American boots on the ground in Libya..

...so I have ordered the Pentagon to procure 100,000 pairs of desert camoflage Crocs

Posted by: Baracket Obama, sitting on the beach wearing a banana hammock and sipping a MaiTai at March 19, 2011 07:53 PM (AnTyA)

148 Some questions I have seen on the interTubes...

Is France an outlaw regime now?

Has France taken measures to insure that the bombs they drop are designed only to kill enemy combatants and will not so much as mess up the hairdo of any civilian standing next to him?

Will France rebuild everything they destroy?

Will France let American oil companies get a share of the contracts in the post-war Libyan puppet regime they will probably install?

Will the French serve orange-glazed chicken and permit five prayers a day to the enemy combatants they imprison? Will they permit the UN and Red Cross to visit these prisoners to insure their treatment is acceptable? Will the French demand these people be treated in accordance with the Human Rights Act?

Inquiring Libtards want to know?

Posted by: trainer at March 19, 2011 07:53 PM (yCWYQ)

149 Well, look at the bright side-the Tomahawk production lines will be busy replacing what we shot off, so Barry finally hit on a stimulus for private sector jobs.

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at March 19, 2011 11:48 PM (0IPsJ)

Hahahahaha! You so crazy!

Posted by: F-22 and Airborne Laser at March 19, 2011 07:54 PM (WDUMs)

150 "The president does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation."  --Obama- December 20, 2007

Please don't pass up on opportunities to call your favorite left-winger a chickenhawk...


Posted by: Don't mind me, I'm just here to help at March 19, 2011 07:56 PM (0LZTz)

151 If Obama wants to disarm us, he has to get rid of the stockpiles first. Liberals have never been fond of us having cruise missiles.

Posted by: sifty at March 19, 2011 07:56 PM (PEjB1)

152 137 2 things...God bless and keep safe all US servicemen in harms way.  May success come swiftly and with no casualties. 

Secondly, it will be interesting to see how the international press treats civilian causalities and that collateral damage that's sure to be part of this operation.  Will they print any stories, photos, etc that will politically harm The President of the World?

Posted by: The Hammer at March 19, 2011 11:48 PM (32ubA)

H: I certainly agree with you on the first part and the no casualties addendum, but I have no idea how "success" is being defined here.

I think we should also pray for all our leaders that they may see their way clear to actually stand up for this nation above all others as they execute their assigned duties, especially when they put our men and women in harms way.

It might be worth a prayer for the repubs to grow a pair and clearly articulate how worthless Obama is and how he is derelict in his duty as CinC.  But I am not sure that a miracle of that order is in the realm of possibility.

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 19, 2011 07:56 PM (DCpHZ)

153 Ah-hah, a March 14th editorial drove him to action http://tinyurl.com/5wzvz8s "Kenya: Neutralise Gaddafi's jets"

Posted by: t-bird at March 19, 2011 07:57 PM (FcR7P)

154 Like, Obama needs to do this to fix what Bush and Rumsfeld broke.

So, you dudes need to chill and let the man do his job.

Jeez.

Drum circle anyone?

Posted by: Lefty Dumbass at March 19, 2011 07:57 PM (MWXXs)

155 Now that we're done with the whole Libyan thing, could someone check with the UN about the stats of my proposed resolution to launch Tomahawks at the WI capital in support of their protesters? I'd like to get on that right after vacation.

Posted by: Golfer in Chief at March 19, 2011 07:57 PM (3nrx7)

156 Now the Black Eyed Peas can sing a war song and Hollywouldhave can make war movies highlighting brave UN speech givers dodging press questions.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at March 19, 2011 07:57 PM (EiH7n)

157 Of course this is a war for oil.  Who do you think invested in all of that equipment that Gaddaffi now holds hostage?  (and is currently unproductive)  Submit or be assimilated.
 
C'mon, that's it.  Just a little pin prick. Oh yeah.

Posted by: OPEC, you're friendly neighborhood dealer at March 19, 2011 07:57 PM (/8mBu)

158 Bitches, please.

Barry is still fanning himself over the fact he sent Tomahawk missiles into Libya. 

And you know in your hearts it's true.  Which should scare the jeebeebus out of us all.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 19, 2011 07:57 PM (UOM48)

159 Why is the troll here lecturing us on patriotism?  They got wi-fi in the barracks at the recruit training center nowadays?

I did my twenty, so get fucked.

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at March 19, 2011 07:57 PM (0IPsJ)

160  Um, how exactly do we know when we have "won" this war?

Posted by: Bill Mitchell at March 19, 2011 11:43 PM (x3Anv)

when Obama leaves office.

Posted by: willow at March 19, 2011 07:57 PM (h+qn8)

161

Hahahahaha! You so crazy!

Posted by: F-22 and Airborne Laser


Hahahaha, they stick F-22s in a VLS now?

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at March 19, 2011 07:59 PM (0IPsJ)

162 Well, I'm going to bed.  Have to enjoy our boy home from Okinawa while we can.

Hope Barky's resting well tonight.  Dumb-assed bastard.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 19, 2011 08:00 PM (UOM48)

163 Um, how exactly do we know when we have "won" this war? I already won. How many times do I have to tell you people?

Posted by: Golfer in Chief at March 19, 2011 08:01 PM (3nrx7)

164 159  cut, jib, newsletter

Posted by: navycopjoe at March 19, 2011 08:01 PM (EOu3d)

165 44 Calling the President 'Golfer in Chief' in the middle of armed conflict is kinda unpatriotic, wouldn't you say? Posted by: Cain's Pizzeria at March 19, 2011 11:06 PM (MUMm3) --------------------------------------- Well, some are in the middle of armed conflict. The Golfer In Chief is vacationing in Rio you putz.

Posted by: Shoppy at March 19, 2011 08:01 PM (xvCQK)

166 President Obama, about that Peace Prize. Since you're not using it any more, may we have it back?

Posted by: Nobel Committee at March 19, 2011 08:04 PM (NwTXA)

167 44:

Dumbass, It's called a "WAR FOR BROWN PEOPLE'S OIL", get it right. You fucking smelly hippie cockholsters have been telling us so since 9/11.

Posted by: sifty at March 19, 2011 08:05 PM (PEjB1)

168 The Obama Administration authorized the use of missiles today in Libya. The Chinese immediately evacuated their embassy.

Posted by: AP/Reuters at March 19, 2011 08:06 PM (th0op)

169 Fuck you, I won.  And I'm opening for Lady Gaga on her next world tour, bitches.

Posted by: Hoops McMulligan at March 19, 2011 08:06 PM (/8mBu)

170 Ummm, Barrack, about my free gas again....

Posted by: Peggy Joseph at March 19, 2011 08:07 PM (RnujI)

171 I must be getting old. I seem to recall a time when it was expected that a President would give an evening Oval Office speech when starting a war, followed by a press conference as soon as details were available. Now? Body surfing, beaches, and banana hammocks.

Posted by: Damiano at March 19, 2011 08:08 PM (3nrx7)

172 Representative Republic. My point exactly Sifty. At which point were our elected representatives given an opportunity to decide on what course of action to take on this matter. Even the Clinton administration sought Congressional approval for the criminal aggression against Serbia. This is not an imminent vital security threat for our nation, yet we're engaging militarily without any attempt at gaining the consent of the governed.

What is it to "support the troops"? I think that's just mindless trope that's too often repeated by the Right. If by that it's meant to show respect to uniformed soldiers, donate to causes beneficial to them and refrain from slandering them, then yes, I support the troops.

But I will not be stifled in voicing oppostion to this out of control government. It would be nice if there was some type of oppostion party that would seek to place some restraint on this administration in this insane aggression, but obviously that's not the case.

Here is the link to Andrew McCarthey's dissent from National Review in their support for the Libya escapade:

http://tinyurl.com/45pxgec

Posted by: sartana at March 19, 2011 08:10 PM (7Xm5b)

173 165 44 Calling the President 'Golfer in Chief' in the middle of armed conflict is kinda unpatriotic, wouldn't you say?
Posted by: Cain's Pizzeria at March 19, 2011 11:06 PM (MUMm3)
---------------------------------------
Well, some are in the middle of armed conflict.

The Golfer In Chief is vacationing in Rio you putz
.   You don't really expect him to get involved until the hot-looking, deep-voiced, babe named "Isabelle" gets done with him, do you?  

Posted by: Land of Leakin at March 19, 2011 08:11 PM (aQ/YG)

174 Now? Body surfing, beaches, and banana hammocks.

Oooh, oooh, and details on the Presidential and First Lady's Brazilian wax job?

Posted by: Peggy Joseph at March 19, 2011 08:11 PM (RnujI)

175 Just in:  Michelle Obama ordered an air strike on chubby and husky Libyans (or heavier).

Posted by: rdbrewer at March 19, 2011 08:13 PM (ZcjZ+)

176 44 Calling the President 'Golfer in Chief' in the middle of armed conflict is kinda unpatriotic, wouldn't you say?
Posted by: Cain's Pizzeria at March 19, 2011 11:06 PM (MUMm3)

It get's to the point were a dumdum's posts are so fucking stupid that it doesn't want to stick around for the routine beat down.

Posted by: YIKES! at March 19, 2011 08:18 PM (buXmi)

177 It is only an illegal and immoral war when you guys do it.

Posted by: Stupid Fucking Libtard at March 19, 2011 08:19 PM (0IPsJ)

178 Payback is a bitch.

Posted by: The ghosts of Flight 103 at March 19, 2011 08:19 PM (NwTXA)

179 176, he was always that stupid.  He/she/it just knows now it's better to hit and run.

Posted by: Stupid Fucking Libtard at March 19, 2011 08:20 PM (0IPsJ)

180 I rather like the notion that Hillary is running this- I'd at least feel like someone semi-competent is in charge.

Posted by: tmi3rd at March 19, 2011 10:54 PM (WRtsc)

I agree.  Isn't that a sad commentary on the qualities and character of our Commander in Chief? 

Posted by: Ombudsman at March 19, 2011 08:21 PM (c1oyg)

181 Libyan civilians are not the same as Iraqi civilians. 

Posted by: Press Whore who hyperventilated her way through the years 2003-2008, but who is just fine right now, at March 19, 2011 08:22 PM (0IPsJ)

182 Speaking of widening conflict, Michelle Obama's ass looks like 2 pigs wrestling in a sleeping bag. Check out that pic on Drudge.

Posted by: Shoppy at March 19, 2011 08:22 PM (xvCQK)

183 This just in. According to sources in the White House President Obama decided to take out Qaddaffi after his wife stated people were saying he started the ugly wide belt fad and not her. Also, he's prettier.

Posted by: AP/Reuters at March 19, 2011 08:22 PM (th0op)

184 Crickets

Posted by: 100,000 Anti-War Protestors at March 19, 2011 08:24 PM (0IPsJ)

185 Also, he's prettier.
And has a smaller moustache.

Posted by: andycanuck at March 19, 2011 08:24 PM (/wCSE)

186 Michelle in a bikini: http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=66450 [[WARNING!]]

Posted by: Zip Codes at March 19, 2011 08:25 PM (/Ft4q)

187 How many times is Fox going to recycle the Tomahawk firing video?

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at March 19, 2011 08:25 PM (K3iUm)

188 I hope that when you Americans sort out who actually initiated this war and you find out that it wasn't in your own interests but that of George Soros who seems to be in actual command of your country, that you will man up and have a few public executions of enemies of the state.

Posted by: CanaDave at March 19, 2011 08:26 PM (unlT9)

189 WTF?  I thought I was safe after January 2009.

Posted by: Confused Dictator at March 19, 2011 08:26 PM (0IPsJ)

191 182 Speaking of widening conflict, Michelle Obama's ass looks like 2 pigs wrestling in a sleeping bag.

Check out that pic on Drudge.

Posted by: Shoppy at March 20, 2011 12:22 AM (xvCQK)


But when she walks.

Her ass looks like two VW Beetles racing up a hill.

Posted by: YIKES! at March 19, 2011 08:27 PM (buXmi)

192 #188 see my #144.

Posted by: Confused Dictator at March 19, 2011 08:27 PM (0IPsJ)

193 What?  Why should we give a fuck about Libya?  It's not we served there.  Heck, it's not like most of us ever served in IRAQ either, but what's a little stolen valor for a good cause?  Anyhoo, we'll be in Wisconsin advocating for social justice or riots, whichever comes first.

No we are not a front group for socialists.  Why do you ask?

Posted by: Iraq Veterans Against the War at March 19, 2011 08:32 PM (0IPsJ)

194 My warmongering is limited to magic Tomahawk missiles that only kill bad guys, even if they blow up in children's faces. I'm a blank screen, upon which liberals project their war crimes.

Posted by: Chickenhawk Obama at March 19, 2011 08:33 PM (AZGON)

195 I blame Palin's violent rhetoric.

Posted by: Lefty Hussein McMoonbat at March 19, 2011 08:33 PM (2jQGY)

196 I'm so ready to go.

Posted by: giant paper mache head with enormous ears at March 19, 2011 08:34 PM (GTbGH)

197 @192...I read your 144,,,I think you guys are past that...back in world war 1 and 2, you allowed yourselves to be forged into a weapon, you never de-weaponized,,,same in Canada...we never went back to what we were after that...nefarious cocksuckers have been riding the big centralization bandwagon ever since...more to say but I'll post this first...

Posted by: CanaDave at March 19, 2011 08:35 PM (unlT9)

198 Posted by: Shoppy at March 20, 2011 12:22 AM (xvCQK)


I wore that for my country. It's specifically to boost aluminum exports.

Posted by: Michelle Obama at March 19, 2011 08:38 PM (th0op)

199 I meant with this.

ITC brought up a good point the other day - we could have just let Ghaddafi go into exile with most of his wealth and none of this would have been required.

That by killing the items of autoritarian dominance as Orwell described tanks and artillery, we could have let the barbarians kill eachother until a civiliation MIGHT form.

I don't give a damn about the "libyan people" other than giving them a level playing ground.   We could have gone in, broken all of khadaffi's toys, and made him actually duke it out.

Instead, the resident in chief "played" "golf."

Sorry, I've seen his swing, and while I'm not a golfer, it's not a game that interests me, but I can hit the shit out of a baseball, and obama doesn't look like he's doing either.  He looks like his diaper is drooping and has a poopie.

Posted by: Douglas at March 19, 2011 08:38 PM (YKOnu)

200 This military exercise is deeply stupid...

Posted by: CanaDave at March 19, 2011 08:42 PM (unlT9)

201 Did they hit the baby milk factory?

Posted by: Peter Arnett at March 19, 2011 08:44 PM (NwTXA)

202 The Golfer in Chief weighed in. ""We cannot stand idly by when a tyrant tells his people there will be no mercy," he said in Brasilia.

The Brazilian's aren't all that far removed from a fairly heavy handed military rule themselves, not sure it would something I would have said when staying in someone guesthouse.

Posted by: Jean at March 19, 2011 08:44 PM (0rXxT)

203

191Her ass looks like two VW Beetles racing up a hill.

In that silvery outfit she looks like two racing zeppelins---with about as much gas inside as well.   I hope she never lets loose.  If so,

Oh!  the humanity!  The humanity!!!

Posted by: effinayright at March 19, 2011 08:45 PM (cEsKb)

204 Maybe I'm missing something but what did a no-fly zone over Iraq from 1992 to 2002 do for the Iraqis? didn't Saddam still slaughter the Kurds, torture his people, etc.? And on top of that they had sanctions. Are we setting up another Oil For FoodTM scandal?

Posted by: ExExZonie at March 19, 2011 08:46 PM (DRR4t)

205 Anti-war protester = New Racist

Posted by: madtechie at March 19, 2011 08:46 PM (siwHw)

206 So how will this help his poll numbers? This looks sort of like Iraq at the beginning.

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at March 19, 2011 08:47 PM (c5RQr)

207 This is different because I hate oil and I'm not white. The good news is you silly Republicans will praise me for this, proving you wingers are the real warmongers. Plus, this proves I have reasonably shifted to the center. I'm looking forward to a tongue bath from Michael Medved. I win!

Posted by: Chickenhawk Obama at March 19, 2011 08:49 PM (AZGON)

208 In all seriousness, I hope one of the first missles was aimed at that POS Abdelbeset Ali Mohmed al Megrahi's brand new house. Cancer my fuckin' ass. Tomahawk fever's gonna git ya!

Posted by: madtechie at March 19, 2011 08:52 PM (siwHw)

209 I haven't taken a strong position on this because I have no love for any of the players.  Being the opinionated SOB that I am, this is a first but a CIC telling us we are going to war from Rio just seems wrong.

Posted by: Ohio Dan's crotch getting sore from riding the fence at March 19, 2011 08:56 PM (2o7Ys)

210 I'm glad we stopped Libya's Air Force even though it was incapable of doing much any how except get shot down by untrained rebels.  Libya will still be in Kaddaffies hands for the foreseeable future. 

Air power is crucial to win a war but it alone doesn't win anything.  Except in some RTS games that I play.  Then air power can win the whole game.

Posted by: Sock Puppet 5000 at March 19, 2011 08:58 PM (W58PC)

211

44 Calling the President 'Golfer in Chief' in the middle of armed conflict is kinda unpatriotic, wouldn't you say?
Posted by: Cain's Pizzeria at March 19, 2011 11:06 PM (MUMm3)

I'm thinking calling a once sitting President the equivalent of Hitler is a hell of a lot worse you fucking prick......

Posted by: crowsting at March 19, 2011 08:58 PM (nDEZU)

212 I've seen numerous people asking about "exit strategy".

But has anyone seen any hint of an entrance strategy? We're not supposed to ask anymore. We're expected to just fall in line like clapping seals and proclaim "support the troops!" Has any one Republican in Congress demanded an accounting? The People no longer have any representation. It's apparent now, that these Middle East uprisings have not caught the governments of the West by surprise, but that they played some part in planning and fomenting the current unrest. What we're seeing now is the result of planning that's gone on for some time and our leaders have committed us militarily without even faking an attempt at our consent. Statements by Hillary Clinton and an editorial by Tony Blair point to some foreknowledge and involvement by the Western powers in these uprisings, and the rest of us are left in the dark with our thumbs up our ass.

But not WarBetUnDeStates. He's got his dick in his hands while he's looking at pictures of bearded trannies.


Posted by: sartana at March 19, 2011 08:58 PM (7Xm5b)

213

No Blood for OIL!!!!

.....

What's that?  There's a democrat in the Whitehous?

And the French don't have as sweet a deal with Libya as they did with Iraq?

Oh, uh nevermind.

Posted by: Liberals around the nation at March 19, 2011 08:59 PM (oVQFe)

214

Where did everyone go? Guess, I'll have to start up the thread again:

 

PALIN!!!

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at March 19, 2011 09:00 PM (c5RQr)

215 Barrack is buttering Michelle's buns on a Brazillian beach , while bombs blow up brown people in Libya.

Posted by: Ohio Dan's crotch getting sore from riding the fence at March 19, 2011 09:00 PM (2o7Ys)

216 Can you imagine the praise I will get for bold determined leadership on the Sunday shows? The adulation I will earn for showing how a real President starts a war? Even people like Krauthammer and the wingers on Faux News will say I'm growing in office. I'm a fucking war hero. I think I will award myself a medal.

Posted by: Chickenhawk Obama at March 19, 2011 09:03 PM (AZGON)

217 Reagen shut the piece of shit up overnight, Bush disarmed him without harming any of his regime, obama argued a "good" case before the union, guaranteeing that we are engaged in a projected effort.

Bomb the palaces, bomb the runways (and those bombs ace was referencing are called "rockeye,"  anyone who played a flight sim knows that..  and target hangers and target ammo dumps, and armories (even our armories are easily recognizable, assuming anyone without a sattelite can see them) We could have crippled the tactical advantage of khadaffi almost instantly.

I think I said something like this (with fewer specifics) during the poll thread, but hey!

I was just a pogue who didn't want to die, but was willing to fight.  I would much rather none of ourse do either, the president?  EH!  he dropped his blackberry at the driving range wile "hitting" the golf ball for the last week.

Posted by: Douglas at March 19, 2011 09:03 PM (YKOnu)

218         
"...this is a first but a CIC telling us we are going to war from Rio just seems wrong."

From the Sands of Ipanema to the Shores of Tripoli?

Posted by: sartana at March 19, 2011 09:04 PM (7Xm5b)

219 "no blood for oil."  reminds me of one of the best names for a blog.  "No Oil for Pacifists."

Posted by: Douglas at March 19, 2011 09:04 PM (YKOnu)

220

We could have crippled the tactical advantage of khadaffi almost instantly.

-------------------

What is happening now? The mfmf is not saying anything substansive.

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at March 19, 2011 09:05 PM (c5RQr)

221 Doesn't thus war make Obama an Uncle Tom?

Posted by: LiveFreeOrDie at March 19, 2011 09:13 PM (sC9/6)

222

Where did everyone go? Guess, I'll have to start up the thread again:

 

PALIN!!!

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at March 20, 2011 01:00 AM (c5RQr)


I'll see you and raise you a:

RON PAUL!

Posted by: YIKES! at March 19, 2011 09:18 PM (buXmi)

223 Haven't read all of the threads, but:

1.  The Arabs love being the "victim" - QuDaffy is going to whine like a bitch that this is just a Western oil grab, etc. and a lot of douchbags will listen.

2.  If the scale of the atrocities, the continuing fire during the "ceasefire", etc all turn out to be exaggerations by a desperate group of rebels trying to get Western aid - how would that be any different then the way the German source tried to bait the West into taking out Saddam?  This might kill the "Bush Lied" meme.

3.  Selling this as a No Fly Zone - then opening with attacks on tanks and Tomahawk salvo - is going to make some people unhappy.

Personally, if I were President - I would have said "we have never forgotten Lockerbie" and stop talking.  I also hope we used up some of the nuke capable Tomahawks - so we can upgrade the fleet without worrying about a treaty.

Posted by: Jean at March 19, 2011 09:18 PM (0rXxT)

224 Mike Castle! Sharron Angle!! Mike Huckabee!!!

Posted by: George Orwell at March 19, 2011 09:21 PM (AZGON)

225 im so curious how this will play out for 2012.

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at March 19, 2011 09:22 PM (c5RQr)

226 BTW that was from C & L

Heh.

Does the head scrunt over there still go out of her way to mention her visits to Europe and name drop her contacts in the art world? She was like a living, breathing Stuff White People Like entry.

Posted by: Blackford Oakes at March 19, 2011 09:22 PM (Klxrr)

227 ... and this will require an emergency supplemental appropriations bill -- and bets Hal Rodgers cuts off earmarks in it.

Posted by: Jean at March 19, 2011 09:23 PM (0rXxT)

228 marxist moral authority gives TEH 1 the Right!
Bitch!
(side note: Ronald Reagan was obviosly wrong in trying to rid the world of a scourge...)

Posted by: jam2 at March 19, 2011 09:28 PM (DCdSz)

229 I wonder if qaddafi's Trash Can Man will make an appearance?

Posted by: humphreyrobot at March 19, 2011 09:36 PM (EiH7n)

230 Posted by: George Orwell at March 20, 2011 01:21 AM (AZGON)

Alrighty then.
I didn't want to do this but you force me.
CLINTON/KUCINICH 2012!

Posted by: YIKES! at March 19, 2011 09:36 PM (buXmi)

231 Would someone spray paint "Lockerbie Bomber Cancer Treatment" on a few of the cruise missiles, please?

Posted by: Damiano at March 19, 2011 09:41 PM (3nrx7)

232 Has the ONT ever been this late?

Posted by: Ohio Dan at March 19, 2011 09:42 PM (2o7Ys)

233 "And of course Michael Moore is tweeting up a storm of asshole comments." And blaming... BUSH!

Posted by: Rodney C. Johnson at March 19, 2011 09:44 PM (G/Eku)

234 Has the ONT ever been this late? Scroll down.

Posted by: t-bird at March 19, 2011 09:46 PM (FcR7P)

235 Selling this as a No Fly Zone - then opening with attacks on tanks and Tomahawk salvo - is going to make some people unhappy.-Jean

Excellent point. This is pure lawlessness. They never intended to stick to a NoFly Zone. It should be making us unhappy- we're the ones being lied to. This should have us wondering what more they have planned, given that they've ruled out ground troops. Will that turn out to have been a lie as well?




 

Posted by: sartana at March 19, 2011 09:49 PM (7Xm5b)

236 I think I see QuDaffy's big mistake - he forgot to personally bribe the UN gatekeepers, the British Foreign Minister and entire French cabinet.

Posted by: Jean at March 19, 2011 09:51 PM (0rXxT)

237 sartana - we should have at least pulled a high speed pass or two to get the Libyans to warm up those old vacuum tubes - then we could say being "painted" was an aggressive act in defiance of UN sanctions (Obama could call Crawford to check on the wording.)

Posted by: Jean at March 19, 2011 09:55 PM (0rXxT)

238 sartana - "given that they've ruled out ground troops. Will that turn out to have been a lie as well?" - Clinton ruled out ground troops in Kosovo, we are still there and Kosovar's are killing Americans (the recent bus in Germany and the SLC Mall incident).

Posted by: Jean at March 19, 2011 09:58 PM (0rXxT)

239 This war ... is lost.

Posted by: Harry Reid at March 19, 2011 10:00 PM (JXaAZ)

240 sartana - we should have at least pulled a high speed pass or two to get the Libyans to warm up those old vacuum tubes - then we could say being "painted" was an aggressive act in defiance of UN sanctions (Obama could call Crawford to check on the wording.) Posted by: Jean As i was making my first pass in my jet, i smelled the odor of pot too.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at March 19, 2011 10:02 PM (EiH7n)

241 The "smart military blog" is dead.

Posted by: Douglas at March 19, 2011 10:04 PM (YKOnu)

242

Yup.

 

Posted by: Ohio Dan at March 19, 2011 10:10 PM (2o7Ys)

243 Barbaric!

Posted by: Zombie Lifelong Democrat Robert C. Byrd, Exalted Cyclops of the KKK at March 19, 2011 10:11 PM (SfIsP)

244 Dan you do know that this thread was posted after the ONT thread, right?

Posted by: buzzion at March 19, 2011 10:12 PM (oVQFe)

245 President Obama stated today the US use of force in Libya will be for days and not weeks. Specifically it was to be limited till this Thursday. When asked why he answered  because after Thursday is Friday, Friday and  he will be too busy trying to decide whether to kick it in the front seat or kick it in the back seat with his friends. His breakfast of a bowl of cereal has already been determined.

Posted by: AP/Reuters at March 19, 2011 10:15 PM (th0op)

246 every time you drop the bomb
wait, Obama's the President
all is well

Posted by: System of a Dipshit at March 19, 2011 10:15 PM (SfIsP)

247 Believe it or not I missed it.  I feel so stupid. 

Posted by: Ohio Dan at March 19, 2011 10:16 PM (2o7Ys)

248 "we should have at least pulled a high speed pass or two to get the Libyans to warm up those old vacuum tubes - then we could say being "painted" was an aggressive act in defiance of UN sanctions."

Yes, that's how it's done when you have an administration that's at least concerned with keeping up the appearance of complying with normal standards of conduct. The fact that Barry announced merely a NoFly Zone and proceeded directly to attack is what's astounding.

Clinton ruled out a ground invasion and kept his word- as the ground forces came in the form of "peacekeeping" force after a cessation was agreed upon by the Serbs ". Even though a lengthy all-out occupation was planned for, even that band of liars and criminals felt bound to keep up appearances. Yes, the aggression on Serbia was illegal, but at least Clinton laid out his plan before Congress and the American people and followed it. The fact that the Obama administration is proceeding in the manner they are -assuring the American people of one thing, while planning another- should raise major red flags.

Posted by: sartana at March 19, 2011 10:17 PM (7Xm5b)

249 War Powers Act.   SEC. 2. (c) The constitutional powers of the President as Commander-in-Chief to introduce United States Armed Forces into hostilities, or into situations where imminent involvement in hostilities is clearly indicated by the circumstances, are exercised only pursuant to (1) a declaration of war, (2) specific statutory authorization, or (3) a national emergency created by attack upon the United States, its territories or possessions, or its armed forces.

Still trying to figure out how this is either a National Emergency, or an attack on US territories or possessions, or armed forces.... beacuse I don't see either a declaration of War, OR Statutory authorization from Congress.

Why does this President feel he can just ignore the law?

 

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 19, 2011 10:24 PM (NtXW4)

250 I wonder what  Rev. Wright thinks of his old parishioner Obama now? He's a big buddy of Qaddafi's.

Posted by: Rocks at March 19, 2011 10:26 PM (th0op)

251 I can hear it now.

"Monsieur, you dragged us into Serbia and Kosovo."

"Prime Minister Blair hung the credibility of Her Majesty's Government out to be shot to ribbons over Iraq"

"YOU OWE US THIS ONE"


Posted by: JEM at March 19, 2011 10:35 PM (o+SC1)

252 Romeo13, it's been my understanding that the President can use military force abroad for a period of sixty days without any approval from Congress. After that he is bound to seek authorization and only Congress can declare war.

What's outrageous about this is that nothing was run by the American people or our representatives in Congress. There is no justification for our actions. We are not bound by treaty to intervene on behalf of an ally. This is not in response to an act of war committed against us, not an imminent threat or even a remote threat to our security, and there is no humanitarian crisis such as genocide which would oblige us to intervene as signatories to the Genocide Act. This seems to be -hate to say it- unprecedented.

Posted by: sartana at March 19, 2011 10:36 PM (7Xm5b)

253 Look at it this way:  every time Obama drops a bomb an angel gets its wings.

Posted by: The Worshipful Left at March 19, 2011 10:37 PM (cEsKb)

254  This Precedent is truly un-precedented.

Posted by: sartana at March 19, 2011 10:38 PM (7Xm5b)

255 Is anyone besides me having a little schadenfreude at the thought of Obama being the second coming of the left's ultimate bogeyman, George W. Bush (at least, as far as the CinC part of the job is concerned)?

Posted by: Rod Rescueman at March 19, 2011 10:40 PM (QxGmu)

256

Old Leftie slogan:  No blood for oil!!

New Leftie slogan:   Blood for no oil!

NO NEED to get those Bose noise-cancelling headphones, just go to Daily Kos and Democrat Underground to get yourself a roomful of deafening silence!!

Posted by: effinayright at March 19, 2011 10:44 PM (cEsKb)

257 151 Liberals have never been fond of us having cruise missiles. ---------- Boy, ain't that the truth. When I was taking History of Ancient Greek Philosophy at Utah State, the prof took a day to lecture us on the evils of cruise missiles.

Posted by: Anachronda at March 19, 2011 11:00 PM (6fER6)

258 Does my ass make this dress look big?

Posted by: Michelle Antoinette at March 19, 2011 11:15 PM (wjt+8)

259

Does this mean Code Pinkos are now chickenhawks?

Maybe Obama *IS* a miracle worker!

Posted by: Infobot at March 19, 2011 11:20 PM (LJAdd)

260 We will now see if the USA can truly fight 2 1/2 wars like planned. Cuz Libya is about 1/2 a war. North Korea must be bored not getting any attention. They will try something soon.

Posted by: sexypig at March 19, 2011 11:29 PM (pBhxv)

261 Only an idiot would get into a *THREE* front war

Posted by: Adolf's Ghost at March 19, 2011 11:42 PM (LJAdd)

262 Not entirely true.  Liberal Presidents LOVE cruise missiles.  It allows them to "take action" without having to worry about casualties.

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at March 19, 2011 11:45 PM (0IPsJ)

263 Clinton ruled out ground troops in Kosovo, we are still there and Kosovar's are killing Americans (the recent bus in Germany and the SLC Mall incident).

Posted by: Wholesale Nike Free at March 19, 2011 11:45 PM (lSDJf)

264 And the national interest involved is.........................?

Posted by: LifeTrek at March 19, 2011 11:47 PM (0jXyB)

265 264 And the national interest involved is.........................?
.......Obama's poll numbers.

Posted by: Infobot at March 19, 2011 11:49 PM (LJAdd)

266 Does anyone doubt that the US would kill any and every rebel if there were an uprising in the US?

Posted by: Airquote Sarctag at March 19, 2011 11:51 PM (QcOHr)

267 266 Does anyone doubt that the US would kill any and every rebel if there were an uprising in the US?     Not like that has ever happened.

Posted by: General Sherman at March 19, 2011 11:55 PM (LJAdd)

268 In other news, our ally and host of the 5th fleed Bahrain is slaughtering protesters by the hundreds. But I guess it's the good type of slaughter.

Posted by: Aristotle at March 19, 2011 11:59 PM (iGQHL)

269 fleet! damnit.

Posted by: Aristotle at March 19, 2011 11:59 PM (iGQHL)

270 Technically, the CSA was not US soil at the time ...

Posted by: Airquote Sarctag at March 20, 2011 12:09 AM (QcOHr)

271 I'm not offering an opinion of whether we should or should not be sending cruise missiles into Libya, but...when Bush invaded Iraq after 17 UN resolutions AND Congressional authorization, he was savaged for "shredding" the Constitution. What's this?

Posted by: RB at March 20, 2011 12:46 AM (Q5pE0)

272

RB,

oBOMBa is just polishing the Constitution...

...with his @ss

Posted by: Infobot at March 20, 2011 12:57 AM (LJAdd)

273 When we bombed Libya back in the '80s the French wouldn't even let us fly through their airspace. We should be telling the froggies to go fuck themselves.

Posted by: schizoid at March 20, 2011 01:34 AM (X90mm)

Posted by: kokka at March 20, 2011 01:50 AM (iWRab)

275 261 Only an idiot would get into a *THREE* front war Posted by: Adolf's Ghost

Yep.

Elections have...
( wait for it... )

Consequences.

Posted by: backhoe at March 20, 2011 02:10 AM (0bk6W)

276 Obama's Latin America trip raises eyebrows
Los Angeles Times
March 19, 2011

There may be no good time for a busy president to leave the country, but President Obama arrives Saturday in Brazil for a five-day, three-nation swing that comes as jittery Americans brace for a military showdown in Libya and clouds of radioactivity waft eastward from Japan.

The timing of the visit left White House advisors a bit defensive; they insisted that Obama would remain on top of fast-moving events despite his absence from the communications and military command hubs in Washington.

"You can't allow what's happening in the world to consume the presidency," said Daniel Pfeiffer, Obama's communications director. "You have to be able to walk, chew gum and juggle at the same time."

Obama will spend two days in Brazil, one day in Chile and wrap up his visit in El Salvador on Wednesday. He is to deliver a major speech on Latin America in Santiago, Chile, on Monday. In sweep and scope, the speech is expected to be analogous to his address in Cairo in 2009, when he sought to recalibrate relationships with the Muslim world.



Umm -- didn't Obama's Cairo speech help set off the current meltdown in the Muslim world?

Good luck, South America.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 20, 2011 02:27 AM (DhByh)

277 AWESOME:

Senate Rule 93 says that when the Legislature is in special session, “A notice of a committee meeting is not required other than posting on the legislative bulletin board.”

ThatÂ’s the rule Republican leaders are citing in their contention that one of the votes leading up to passage of Gov. Scott WalkerÂ’s controversial anti-union bill was legal.

One ironic footnote: The rule was written in 1983 by two of the Democratic senators who left Wisconsin last month to avoid voting on the bill, Sen. Tim Cullen, D-Janesville, and Sen. Fred Risser, D-Madison.

The two were among 14 senators who fled to Illinois to slow down the bill, which Walker and Republican leaders were fast-tracking through the Legislature.

.....

Okay, now if true, the judge has no legal base to overturn this, does she? 



Posted by: momma at March 20, 2011 03:06 AM (penCf)

278 Wow.

Why are we against unions?

Well, we have our answer - WI State Journal:

Instead of solidarity, says John Russo, labor studies professor at Youngstown State University, a "politics of resentment" may be in play.

"There's a sense of hopelessness," he says. "Some people feel like, 'If we're not going to go anywhere, I'm going to make sure nobody else is going anywhere.'"

...

"I think Republicans smell blood in the water," said Leon Fink, a labor historian at the University of Illinois at Chicago. "Politics is a highly organized game of money ball and this could set back both the unions and Democratic Party power for years."


Posted by: momma at March 20, 2011 03:18 AM (penCf)

279 Rumors of a new oil slick appearing in the gulf 100 miles long.
Being reported on zerohedge from the examiner.

Posted by: MarkC at March 20, 2011 03:21 AM (ros+1)

280 Now, who could Hillary be speaking about? Pelosi, Bitchelle, Susan Rice?

Clinton said Friday that it's time for the United States to join South American countries in electing female presidents. Only problem for Clinton — she's ruled out another run herself, so the only other options right now are the Mama Grizzly conservatives Sarah Palin and Michele Bachmann.

Posted by: momma at March 20, 2011 03:22 AM (penCf)

281 Man, Politico hates Palin:

Palin on Obama/Libya: (NOTICE: They fail to mention that Obama's plan was actually 'Palin's Doctrine' 2 months ago)

Asked how she would have handled the Libyan uprising had she been president, Palin told India Today Editor-in-Chief Aroon Purie: "I wonÂ’t criticize what [Obama's] foreign policy has been. But certainly there would have been more decisiveness."

Now, Politico on Palin:

She struggled to provide pointed answers to several of Purie's questions on foreign affairs, but was very much at ease talking about her own political prospects and those of her beloved tea party.

After blasting the mainstream media as untrustworthy — earning one of her few applause lines of the night — Palin was asked why she and John McCain were not able to beat Obama in 2008.

"The media," she responded bluntly, before adding, "No, I’m kidding.”

After Palin described Obama's successful branding as the "change candidate," the moderator pointed out that the label could have just as well applied to Palin.

“I wasn’t the top of the ticket," Palin responded.

...

While Palin was quick to get into some of her favorite talking points, her appearance at the conference got off to a rough a rough start.

Purie, who introduced her to the gathering, poked fun at Palin's "creative vocabulary" and her polarizing place in American politics in his introduction of the former governor.

Purie identified Palin as the "the sexiest brand in Republican politics" and frequently made clear that not everyone in the United States has a positive view of the former Alaska governor. "Either you love her or hate her," he said.

Alluding to Palin's penchant for sometimes venturing into unique terminology, Purie said "if I may be forgiven for saying so, she has a creative vocabulary."

"Governor Palin, I hope you don't refudiate me," he said, smirking to an amused crowd.

comments as a dig, she didn't show it, thanking Purie for "a kind introduction."

The former governor called the introduction "an exemplification" of the kind of welcome she's received in India.

Posted by: momma at March 20, 2011 03:29 AM (penCf)

Posted by: momma at March 20, 2011 03:37 AM (penCf)

284 Sex Toys, Restraints, Bible Among Evidence in Texas Kidnapping CaseThis title, though accurate, is really misleading.  Most people have a Bible somewhere in their house.

Posted by: momma at March 20, 2011 03:42 AM (penCf)

285 I'm surprised no one in the kooky anti-war left has blamed Palin's Facebook for Obama's strike on Libya yet.  I mean, they can't criticize Obama; they might have to admit some unpleasant truths to themselves, and all that anger and disappointment has to be transferred onto someone it's socially acceptable to hate...

Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 20, 2011 03:43 AM (0vDuM)

286 There's nothing in the Bible that says you can't use sex toys...

Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 20, 2011 03:44 AM (0vDuM)

287
Powers That Be:  This would make an awesome post.  Check out the wasy Politico covers for Obama and uses 'phrases' to not-say-but-say things.

They even indirectly credit Obama with the timing of strikes and his trip to Brazil!


Unreal.  Here's is the WH spin:

“At every juncture where it was necessary for the president to engage in discussions with his national security team….we’ve carved out that time,” Deputy National Security Adviser Ben Rhodes told White House reporters during a conference call Saturday evening. “We’ve pushed back our schedule on multiple occasions today because the president wanted to make sure he had time be fully briefed up and pass his guidance on to the team.”




Politico covers for BO:

While the frenetic pace of calls, meetings and ceremonies clearly demonstrates Obama’s ability to multitask, the White House descriptions of the president’s day also intended to address questions that emerged just before the president’s departure — particularly, why he would take a less-than-urgent Latin America tour amidst a bloody government crackdown in Libya and a Japanese nuclear plant, crippled in a devastating earthquake, on the brink of a full-scale meltdown.
...

While ObamaÂ’s foreign travels may not have impeded his ability to act as commander in chief, the timing of the Libyan strikes did put his Brazilian hosts in something of an awkward position.
...

However, the sequence of events that the White House laid out in painstaking detail makes clear that Obama was intimately engaged in directing the U.S. military campaign from Brazilian soil — making his hosts unwitting participants in the international use of force against Qadhafi.

Here's other interesting things:

But he also managed to squeeze in an unscheduled statement to the media about the attack.

“Today, I authorized the Armed Forces of the United States to begin a limited military action in Libya in support of an international effort to protect Libyan civilians,” the president said, speaking at the convention center where he had just met with business leaders. “That action has now begun.”

Because there was short notice before he spoke, U.S. networks were unable to broadcast ObamaÂ’s statement live, but ABC News aired it as it happened through an audio-only telecom feed.

Posted by: momma at March 20, 2011 03:52 AM (penCf)

288 They fail to mention that Obama's plan was actually 'Palin's Doctrine' 2 months ago = February 23.

Posted by: momma at March 20, 2011 03:54 AM (penCf)

289

Memo to Libya:

You think you got it bad?  I had Pitt in my final four!!

Posted by: Truman North at March 20, 2011 03:56 AM (8ay4x)

290 Hey Charlie Gibson,

Perhaps you'd like to explain the Obama Doctrine to me?

Posted by: Sphynx at March 20, 2011 04:03 AM (qbpmD)

291 Met by protests, Obama's Rio trip itinerary opens to party full-time, canceling public speech and press conference.

Posted by: by any other name at March 20, 2011 04:06 AM (H+LJc)

292 Hillary's line modulated from "reset" to "There are difficulties."

Posted by: by any other name at March 20, 2011 04:08 AM (H+LJc)

Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 20, 2011 04:09 AM (0vDuM)

294 #290 is a correction to #283.  They belittle Palin, praise Obma and never mention that what the WH is doing, Palin suggested a few weeks ago.

Posted by: momma at March 20, 2011 04:09 AM (penCf)

295 As Qadhafi arms his citizens, who's being liberated by the US/Brits/French?


Posted by: by any other name at March 20, 2011 04:11 AM (H+LJc)

296 from Radish,

"I'm surprised no one has blamed Sarah Palin's Facebook page for Obama's strike on Libya. She controls minds with her graphics, you know."

heh2

Posted by: by any other name at March 20, 2011 04:13 AM (H+LJc)

Posted by: Fish the Impaler at March 20, 2011 04:16 AM (ZHsNw)

298 Good Morning Interwebs! No way Ms. LaVaughn-Robinson-DeWhiteyHater would let her man be outdone by the husband of Carla Bruni.

Posted by: Pecos Bill at March 20, 2011 04:16 AM (j84s0)

299 So, umm, we do what the UN says now? Great. In the end, a Tomahawk is going to hit a baby milk factory and we will still be Great Satan. And Congressional authorization apparently not needed. Here is how it plays out - Col Q says "no mas" and then the no fly zone has met its objectives and the 6th Fleet steams away, and then he starts killing people again.

Posted by: blaster at March 20, 2011 04:16 AM (Fw2Gg)

300 West is on Fox now blasting Obama over going into Libya w/o congressional approval and no mission goals.

Posted by: Vic at March 20, 2011 04:18 AM (M9Ie6)

301
Alan West is new to Congress, and doesn't understand there are two sets of rules, one for the liberal socialists and one the repugnant republicans.  West is my go to guy in Congress, and I trust he gets up to speed on the rules.

Posted by: Fish the Impaler at March 20, 2011 04:20 AM (ZHsNw)

302 blasting Obama over going into Libya w/o congressional approval

Is the Obama admin going to count the phone call to the press count as notifying Congress action has been taken?

Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 20, 2011 04:21 AM (0vDuM)

303 Even while Hillary defers to the UN Security Council to declare and organize any such "international community" war against Libya, Farrakhan warns Obama, "Who the hell do you think you are".

Hillary's swan song, not to worry.

Posted by: by any other name at March 20, 2011 04:24 AM (H+LJc)

305
So you're judging a beauty contest of world leader's main squeeze's on Ipanema beach with Carla Bruni, Michelle Obama.........

Posted by: Fish the Impaler at March 20, 2011 04:27 AM (ZHsNw)

306 "Barack Obama has now been responsible for firing more cruise missiles than all other Nobel Peace prize winners combined. HeÂ’s still in 2nd place for number of Arab deaths caused (and 3rd place for Muslim deaths) behind Yassir Arafat and Mikhail Gorbachev."

Posted by: by any other name at March 20, 2011 04:30 AM (H+LJc)

307 So you're judging a beauty contest of world leader's main squeeze's on Ipanema beach with Carla Bruni, Michelle Obama.........

I'd vote for Angela Merkel's husband over Mooochelle.

Posted by: nickless at March 20, 2011 04:30 AM (MMC8r)

Posted by: by any other name at March 20, 2011 04:32 AM (H+LJc)

309
There's a boondoggle in Rio, and Barkey, The Enforcer, and CBS News walk into a leather bar.........

Posted by: Fish the Impaler at March 20, 2011 04:32 AM (ZHsNw)

310 West is on Fox now blasting Obama over going into Libya w/o congressional approval and no mission goals. -- Posted by: Vic at March 20, 2011 08:18 AM (M9Ie6)

Good for West. Obama has no constitutional right to do as he has.

Posted by: by any other name at March 20, 2011 04:34 AM (H+LJc)

311 arrested outside the White House in demonstrations marking the eighth anniversary of the U.S.-led war in Iraq.


Those are some serious blinders.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 20, 2011 04:35 AM (0vDuM)

Posted by: momma at March 20, 2011 04:36 AM (penCf)

313

As he should.  I just saw a comment on CNN where some libtard said Obama is doing it right because he got UN approval.  I had to break it gently to him that Bush did too AND he had Congressional approval as well.

Posted by: CDR M at March 20, 2011 08:21 AM

"because he got UN approval."??

Really? What UN vote, what UN resolution? Hillary defers to the UN Security Council since "There are difficulties" siding with Brits/French against Germany/Russia/China to attack Libya.

Posted by: by any other name at March 20, 2011 04:36 AM (H+LJc)

314  Sunday Prayer
And may all of our Missiles hit their targets, Amen

Posted by: melvin's war at March 20, 2011 04:37 AM (3OCZw)

Posted by: momma at March 20, 2011 04:40 AM (penCf)

316 There's nothing in the Constitution that says the UN's approval is required or sufficient.

Posted by: nickless at March 20, 2011 04:41 AM (MMC8r)

317 The protesters, some shouting anti-war slogans and singing "We Shall Not Be Moved," were arrested Saturday after ignoring orders to move away from the gates of the White House. The demonstrators cheered loudly as Daniel Ellsberg, the former military analyst who in 1971 leaked the Pentagon's secret history of the Vietnam War that was later published in major newspapers, was arrested and led away by police.

Ralph Nader, a consumer advocate who's unsuccessfully run several times for president, attended the demonstration and said anti-war protesters needed to continue putting pressure on government leaders. He said he believed most Americans and even soldiers agreed with the views of the protesters



"Welcome to Jurassic Park...."

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 20, 2011 04:41 AM (DhByh)

318 Telegraph:
As he strode into the Elysée Palace in a dark blue suit and regally purple tie, David Cameron could rightly take pride in his key role in the formation of a powerful coalition ready and willing to take military action against Colonel Muammar Gaddafi’s Libyan regime.

Posted by: momma at March 20, 2011 04:43 AM (penCf)

319 So let's get this straight, we have old hippies in the white house being protested by old hippie outside the whitehouse. Are these people insane? Well, duh.

Posted by: oldsailor's poet at March 20, 2011 04:43 AM (oBXlb)

320 I thought that the UN resolution was for enforcing the NFZ (?)

Posted by: momma at March 20, 2011 04:44 AM (penCf)

321 Brackets, 5 Photo-Op vs 11 Lybia. Lybia takes it.

Posted by: sTevo at March 20, 2011 04:45 AM (VMcEw)

322 Where are the giant paper mache Obama heads hanging from nooses?

Libya? Egypt? Lebanon? Tunisia? Morocco? Pakhistan? Afghanistan? Iraq? Iran.


Posted by: by any other name at March 20, 2011 04:45 AM (H+LJc)

323 enforcing the NFZ (?) momma at March 20, 2011 08:44 AM

Hence, the first target taken out by French fighter pilots were grounded vehicles.

Posted by: by any other name at March 20, 2011 04:46 AM (H+LJc)

Posted by: momma at March 20, 2011 04:47 AM (penCf)

325 Giving Moochele a bakini wax is like givivg Chewbaca a flat top.

Posted by: oldsailor's poet at March 20, 2011 04:49 AM (oBXlb)

326 I'm not clicking on any link referring to FKOTUS'  nether regions.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 20, 2011 04:50 AM (0vDuM)

327 There's nothing in the Constitution that says the UN's approval is required or sufficient.

Nor is there a constitutional provision granting the CinC power to either declare or initiate warfare without first gaining congressional approval via literal VOTE (unlike ObamaCare non-vote prior to law).

Posted by: by any other name at March 20, 2011 04:50 AM (H+LJc)

328 Chris Wallace starts in 10 min. I wonder what the heads will have to say about this one?

Posted by: oldsailor's poet at March 20, 2011 04:50 AM (oBXlb)

329 Some things to consider:

All major players' PM's or presidents were in Paris,  except for Obama.  We had Hillary.   Could it be that Cameron and Sarkozy were going to do this no matter what Obama thought?  In which case,  Europe is paying no attention to him.

Is Ghadaffi still in Libya?  Could he already have left for Caracas and the three-week Obama delay was to let him get away and to placate Farrakhan and Wright?

With the weird promises of this mission (no civilians attacked, no ground troops,  short involvement) is this a way to discredit military?

Someone up above asked how this helps Soros,  and I agree that is a good question.

Sorry to sound so conspiracy-theory oriented,  but I really do not trust the people in the White House.

Posted by: Miss Marple at March 20, 2011 04:50 AM (Fo83G)

330 @330: Mama, if you think I'm sneaking a peek at Moochelle having her Precious denuded, you are drinking awful early for a Sunday morning.

Posted by: CoolCzech at March 20, 2011 04:53 AM (kUaEF)

331 Saw Drudge Highlighting her huge ass in gossamer silver snug fit was more than I cared to see photographed in formal dress. What's wrong with the woman who can't smile even a little while she walks with her beaming husband with the press photographers snapping away? Is she that uncoordinated, afraid of tripping and full concentrated powers putting one foot in front of the other?

Posted by: by any other name at March 20, 2011 04:54 AM (H+LJc)

332 How quickly memories (here I mean Obama's) fade. From his campaign: "The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation," - Barack Obama. Will anyone ask the Constitutional law professor about this whopper?

Posted by: USA at March 20, 2011 04:56 AM (YZISw)

333 Miss Marple, good questions.

Could it be that Cameron and Sarkozy were going to do this no matter what Obama thought?  In which case,  Europe is paying no attention to him.

But "Europe" is divided between the Brit/French vs. German/East interests whether to invade Libya or not over the likes of Qadhafi. Obama doesn't know diplomacy, let alone European diplomacy, or he'd not have hidden out in Rio at this time a la fleebagger.

Posted by: by any other name at March 20, 2011 05:00 AM (H+LJc)

334

No, it approved necessary measures to protect civilians in addition to establishing the NFZ.  Obviously, that is a broad definition.

Posted by: CDR M at March 20, 2011 08:53 AM (5I8G0)


Damn.  It is too early to be so confused. 

It was titled NFZ, though, right?

It was just filled with very liberal language?

To what, give cover to those who need it if things go south (I only voted for the NFZ)?


Sorry to sound so conspiracy-theory oriented,  but I really do not trust the people in the White House.

Posted by: Miss Marple at March 20, 2011 08:50 AM (Fo83G)

I asked these very same questions a couple days ago.  No of this makes much sense from BO's point of view.  He has always been the photo-op guy, so why not now?

I thought it might have something to do with campaign money.  Biden, Clinton, Rice all went overseas for very strange, not based on current events, places in the last few weeks.  Hell, Rice missed several key votes, and Biden wasn't here and his main duty is to help pass a budget.

Posted by: momma at March 20, 2011 05:01 AM (penCf)

335 I wonder what the heads will have to say about this one? Posted by: oldsailor's poet

Need anyone wonder what neoconservatives will say, really?

Posted by: by any other name at March 20, 2011 05:02 AM (H+LJc)

336 The kducky can die for all I care, but the real question and the most important question is who are the rebels?
Who is behind them and what are there vision for a new government?

Are we being enablers for the muslim brotherhood and the eventual surrounding of Israel.

Do we really beleive that all these uprisings are just coincidence that there is no one behind them?

Me thinks these things will end in tears.



Posted by: MarkC at March 20, 2011 05:03 AM (ros+1)

337 the real question and the most important question is who are the rebels?

My question as well.

Wearing a ski mask hiding the face in the media celebration taking down a Libyan jet fighter only added to the shroud, refusing an identity.

Posted by: by any other name at March 20, 2011 05:06 AM (H+LJc)

338 Enough already.

Posted by: by any other name at March 20, 2011 05:07 AM (H+LJc)

339 the most important question is who are the rebels?
Who is behind them and what are there vision for a new government?

Multiculturalism says it's "racist" to project our own Western ideas of "freedom/basic human dignity/democracy" onto people from non-Western cultures instead of listening to what they're actually saying, but you'll notice its purveyors are doing just that.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 20, 2011 05:09 AM (0vDuM)

340 Ummmmm, tee it high and let it, uhhhhh, fly...FORE!

Posted by: TEH WON at March 20, 2011 05:11 AM (GutTu)

341 351 Saw Drudge Highlighting her huge ass in gossamer silver snug fit was more than I cared to see photographed in formal dress. HEY! That's Three Square Acres of US Sovereign Territory, asshole! We can launch fighters off that thing!

Posted by: CoolCzech at March 20, 2011 05:19 AM (kUaEF)

342 <316 GM Announces New Cuts In Wake Of Japan Crisis. This smells of BS. They are cutting back "on travel and other spending" as it tries to cope with supply disruptions. Um, what do supply disruptions have to do with "travel and other spending"? Posted by: CDR M at March 20, 2011 08:35 AM (5I8G0) Think of the Chevy Volt, a multibillion dollar project that to date has sold less than 1,000 cars, as a "supply."

Posted by: CoolCzech at March 20, 2011 05:21 AM (kUaEF)

343 They're rioting in Africa. There's strife in Iran. What nature doesn't do to us... will be done by our fellow man.

Posted by: Kingston Trio at March 20, 2011 05:29 AM (YYjeh)

344 I thought that the UN resolution was for enforcing the NFZ (?) -------------- On Tuesday Obama asked Rice to get broader wording for the resolution. It now authorizes ground troops.

Posted by: MJ at March 20, 2011 05:37 AM (BKOsZ)

345  The UN Resolution authorizes ground troops?

To help establish the No-Fly Zone no doubt. Have we ever been taken to war in such a way? This is starting to resemble Henry Crabb's raid on Caborca. If you want to know how that ended up, you can read Cormac McCarthy's Blood Meridian to get the details on just how Crabb's severed head was sent to Mexico City pickled in a jar of mezcal.


Posted by: sartana at March 20, 2011 05:48 AM (7Xm5b)

346 did they hit the aspirin factory?

Posted by: tarpon at March 20, 2011 05:56 AM (g0QB8)

347 As an ex-serviceman (US Army, 70-73), I am once again proud of our fine military. The Pentagon (supposedly) prepares for these things well ahead of time but I notice it did not take long for the missiles to fly. Those sailors and Marines were ready to do it. They are there and they will kick ass, humanely but in a devastating manner.

I suspect a lot of Qadaffi's military infrastructure will become expensive junk soon and the US Navy won't even break a sweat. I don't expect much from Obama, in fact very little because he is a Carter-class incompetent, but I hope we don't go to all this effort and leave that slime still in power. If this does not result in Qaddafi's removal then Obama will have another albatross to hang around his neck for 2012.

I question Obama's reasons for this but if it means Qaddafi gets to collect his virgin rewards soon, I'm all for it. In the Monster Hall of Fame, Qadaffi would be a main attraction.

Posted by: Full Moon at March 20, 2011 06:23 AM (DtbEv)

348 Okay, I'm enough of a classic Bush neocon to think this is a Good Thing. Blowing the crap out of dictators -- even dictators who've promised (pinky swear!) not to support terrorism that can be traced to them, and who've assured everyone that they've given up their nuclear programs -- is always a Good Thing.

So, props to the Europeans and, yes, even Obama for finally doing it.

But they're absolutely following the liberal quagmire script. "Limited" involvement which leads to greater and greater involvement, always with not-quite-enough force and rules of engagement which would make St. Francis call them pussies.

The best case right now is that Libya collapses into chaos, the Europeans pick some well-meaning doofus to run the place, and it basically reverts to being a colony of the EU. Note that the French aren't at all bad at this kind of thing. Their "former" colonies in Africa are some of the most stable and prosperous places on the continent.

Posted by: Trimegistus at March 20, 2011 06:39 AM (wMOnz)

349 Let me get this right.  Now it's okay to attack a murderous dictator in a muslim oil producing state because he's slaughtering his people?

Posted by: Jack Burton at March 20, 2011 06:54 AM (6B32N)

350 For god's sake, don't hit the baby-milk factory!

Posted by: Christian Amanpour and throngs of leftists media hacks who now prove that leopards can change their at March 20, 2011 11:12 AM (sE08M)

351 Their pussies if they did not dial up a TLAM with al Megrahi's address...

Posted by: The ghost of Juan Tripp at March 20, 2011 11:14 AM (sE08M)

352 I heard that the Chevy volt comes with a heated bumper...So, your hands don't get cold when you have to push it...

Posted by: Volt, the new Travant shit-screen at March 20, 2011 11:20 AM (sE08M)

353 It's right here that yesterday in Bible study we were discussing what evil angels do, and the topic came around to discrimination. I said there are two kinds of research paper discrimination. The first is what we think of usually - when we make judgments based on what doesn't matter, like not voting for somebody because of their race or gender research paper. That's bad discrimination. But there is discrimination that's good and necessary. For instance, "You have no way to pay this loan back; therefore I'm not going to give it to you." When we don't properly discriminate, evil thrives research paper. I explained that the KGB wanted to get rich, powerful people in media, education, and business to believe it would be good to have a society with NO discrimination research paper. That doesn't just mean we don't have the bad discrimination, but also that we don't have the good discrimination. So there's no difference between those who work and those who don't, research paper those who make sound choices and those who don't, etc. Everyone is guaranteed the same outcome regardless of what they do. Nothing we do matters research paper. That's what communism is, and people who live under it often end up alcoholics or an average of 6 abortions in their lifetime. If what we do doesn't matter, we lose the will to live. That's the legacy of communism research paper. I mentioned that Yuri Bezmenov was amazed at how the openly-communist folks from the '60's are in control of media, education, and business. And wherever someone totally controls the flow of ideas research paper, it's ripe for the devil and his surrogates to lie and deceive. As long as the realities of life and the truth are observable to everyone, we're not going to wander too far from reality research paper. But when the truth is hidden, people can't learn from reality. Then I made my fatal error. I mentioned that all of the news companies have the proof that Obama is a member of The New Party - a branch of the Democratic Socialists of America research paper. I was going to say that they won't let anyone know that truth research paper. We can make our choices for whatever reason we think best, but when someone needs to deceive us, evil is at work and we need to watch out. Before I could finish, though, a lady jumped up waving her arms and shouting that we shouldn't talk about this in church. Church is for how we're supposed to become better people research paper. Then she and her husband stormed out. Later, someone commented that the devil can work wherever he wants to, and if we refuse to consider his role in any area of our life, we give him free rein there research paper. Another added, "I think it was clear that the devil was right here in Bible study - and didn't like being recognized." It's right here.

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