October 21, 2011

Good News: Cell Phones Don't Cause Brain Cancer (Probably)
— rdbrewer

From ABC News:

The study of 358,403 Danish cell phone plan subscribers over 17 years -- the largest study of its kind -- found subscribers of 13 years or more faced the same cancer risk as non-subscribers.

"In general, our findings are in line with most of the epidemiological research that has been conducted to date," said Patrizia Frei of the Danish Cancer Society's Institute of Cancer Epidemiology, lead author of the study published today in the journal BMJ. "They are also in line with in vitro and in vivo studies that show no carcinogenic effects on the cellular level."

I'm not surprised. All microwave radiation does is jostle water molecules--it heats them up. For those who don't know, the type of radiation people are referring to when they're talking about radiation and cancer is ionizing radiation. Ionizing radiation is high-energy radiation that has the ability to cause damage to tissue by breaking DNA and killing cells or causing mutations. Microwave radiation is low energy, lower even than visible light. So a cancer link to to cell phone use has always been suspect.

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Posted by: rdbrewer at 03:55 PM | Comments (73)
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1 Lying Scandis!

Posted by: OWS Human Cell Phones at October 21, 2011 03:55 PM (Y+DPZ)

2 No, no, no, no, no.

SCIENCE told me that it did cause cancer.

SCIENCE, dammit.

SCIENCE!

SCIENCE is never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever wrong about anything.

Posted by: AmishDude at October 21, 2011 03:55 PM (73tyQ)

3 So what caused proudonkey, raykon, erg, Daily Kos, Joe Biden, and Debbie Whatsername-Schultz

Posted by: kbdabear at October 21, 2011 03:56 PM (Y+DPZ)

4
Is there a study showing circle drumming causes stupidity?

Posted by: Sy Snootles at October 21, 2011 03:58 PM (70TBD)

5 4
Is there a study showing circle drumming causes stupidity?
Posted by: Sy Snootles at October 21, 2011 07:58 PM

Yes, the same one that showed fatal car crashes caused alcoholism

Posted by: Dr Gregory House at October 21, 2011 03:59 PM (Y+DPZ)

6 Is there a study showing circle drumming causes stupidity?
Posted by: Sy Snootles at October 21, 2011 07:58 PM

Or does stupidity cause drumming?  It's like the chicken and the egg.

Posted by: huerfano at October 21, 2011 04:01 PM (fecOD)

7 They do however cause AGW. We need to tax these destroyers of life and planet.

Posted by: Algore at October 21, 2011 04:01 PM (EL+OC)

8 A mother came up to me and told me that cellphones gave her young daughter cancer.

Posted by: robtr at October 21, 2011 04:03 PM (MtwBb)

9 So what caused proudonkey, raykon, erg, Daily Kos, Joe Biden, and Debbie Whatsername-Schultz

Posted by: kbdabear at October 21, 2011 07:56 PM (Y+DPZ)

Excessive drug use by their parents?

Posted by: ErikW at October 21, 2011 04:03 PM (o1VvN)

10 "Is there a study showing circle drumming causes stupidity?" Stupidity, maybe. It's certain that they cause rectal cancer. I'm just adding the finishing touches on the study right now.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 21, 2011 04:04 PM (AF1jB)

11 Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 21, 2011 08:04 PM (AF1jB) More like circle-jerking.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 21, 2011 04:08 PM (UlUS4)

12 Since I am texting more now a days, what does that mean for my fingers?

Posted by: nevergiveup at October 21, 2011 04:09 PM (aYQHH)

13 You know who this study benefits?

Posted by: Hugh Hewitt at October 21, 2011 04:10 PM (zNbHv)

14 Ionizing radiation is high-energy radiation that has the ability to cause damage to tissue by breaking DNA and killing cells or causing mutations. Microwave radiation is low energy, lower even than visible light. So a cancer link to to cell phone use has always been suspect.

Not only that, but our cells normally repair DNA damage pretty well.  If it wasn't for proofreading DNA polymerases and other cellular DNA-repairing mechanisms, even stepping outside into the ambient light would be a death sentence for most of us.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at October 21, 2011 04:12 PM (AUdXG)

15 I knew my iPhone really loved me. You do don't you, myyyyyy precious?

Posted by: Zooey Deschanel's Adorable Cuteness Supports Rick Perry's Ruger for President at October 21, 2011 04:14 PM (zNbHv)

16 Since I am texting more now a days, what does that mean for my fingers?

Posted by: nevergiveup at October 21, 2011 08:09 PM (aYQHH)

Besides the stress placed upon the capillaries in your fingertips (which will result in starvation of the muscles and lead to numbness) you're also in danger of being comapared to a 15 year old girl.

Okay, I actually made all that shit up.

Posted by: ErikW at October 21, 2011 04:15 PM (o1VvN)

17 Yeah, I don't have that proofreading DNA polystuff, that's why I can't go out in the sun per se.

Posted by: Douchy 15yo Twilight fan who thinks he's a vampire at October 21, 2011 04:15 PM (2jQGY)

18 Yeah, I don't have that proofreading DNA polystuff, that's why I can't go out in the sun per se. Posted by: Douchy 15yo Twilight fan who thinks he's a vampire

Down sparkles.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 21, 2011 04:18 PM (LHi9T)

19 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at October 21, 2011 04:19 PM (fyOgS)

20 even stepping outside into the ambient light would be a death sentence for most of us.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at October 21, 2011 08:12 PM (AUdXG)

That only applies to Gingers

Posted by: robtr at October 21, 2011 04:20 PM (MtwBb)

21 God, I love this blog. RD, the greatest thing about this post is the brevity with which you explain the effects of ionizing radiation, backed up in the comments by Kratos's explanation of genetic and cellular repair. Love it!

Posted by: tmi3rd at October 21, 2011 04:20 PM (WRtsc)

22 I wondered, given the mood around here, how long it would take for the thread to jump the tracks.

That didn't take long.

Posted by: As If! at October 21, 2011 04:21 PM (piMMO)

23 On the other hand, bad ring tones do cause cancer, so STOP IT.  Bad ring tones, in fact anything other than zen-y sounds prove you have a very low IQ.  Put it on vibrate.

Posted by: ParisParamus at October 21, 2011 04:21 PM (jzm8w)

24 "Is there a study showing circle drumming causes stupidity?"

Correlation is not causation.

Posted by: Don Rumsfeld at October 21, 2011 04:21 PM (MCklm)

25

What to they call those people who always want to hang out with musicians?

Oh, right: drummers.

Posted by: OWSer at October 21, 2011 04:22 PM (w41GQ)

26

Not only that, but our cells normally repair DNA damage pretty well.  If it wasn't for proofreading DNA polymerases and other cellular DNA-repairing mechanisms, even stepping outside into the ambient light would be a death sentence for most of us.

We're not all as pale as you, Casper.

Posted by: fluffy Sunbeam, itinerant drummer at October 21, 2011 04:22 PM (3SvjA)

27 Besides the stress placed upon the capillaries in your fingertips (which will result in starvation of the muscles and lead to numbness) you're also in danger of being comapared to a 15 year old girl. Okay, I actually made all that shit up. Posted by: ErikW at October 21, 2011 08:15 PM (o1VvN) Actually your half correct. I tend to text my wife and 2 daughters. Not that they like to get texts from me, but it is way better than actually having to talk to Dad!

Posted by: nevergiveup at October 21, 2011 04:23 PM (aYQHH)

28

What to they call those people who always want to hang out with musicians?

I thought the answer was 'guitarist'

Posted by: fluffy Sunbeam, itinerant drummer at October 21, 2011 04:23 PM (3SvjA)

29 Living among human waste and constant drumming does cause cancer.

Posted by: steevy at October 21, 2011 04:24 PM (fyOgS)

30

What to they call those people who always want to hang out with musicians?

"I thought the answer was 'guitarist'" --> drum-circle drummer

Posted by: Manfred von Brauerei-Mehrwertsteuer, Member, The League of Ugly Shirted Gentlemen at October 21, 2011 04:26 PM (NaQg8)

31

What to they call those people who always want to hang out with musicians?

I thought the answer was 'guitarist'

I thought it was bassist.

Posted by: ErikW at October 21, 2011 04:26 PM (o1VvN)

32 Cell phones don't cause brain cancer but do cook brains? Break out the Chianti!

Posted by: Hannibal Lecter at October 21, 2011 04:26 PM (MCklm)

33 How to explain one Joe "Plugs" Biden? They must've been shooting HAARP rays into his head for the last forty years.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 21, 2011 04:27 PM (AF1jB)

34 They may not cause cancer, but they do cause ADD. The phones, that is. OWS? Headaches and laughter, but mostly laughter.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at October 21, 2011 04:27 PM (REXkU)

35
Danes didn't have to go to all that trouble,, I'm still not getting one...

Posted by: beanervt at October 21, 2011 04:28 PM (+y4TK)

36 Bad ring tones, in fact anything other than zen-y sounds prove you have a very low IQ.  Put it on vibrate. Posted by: Paris

H8!

Posted by: Ain't no holla back girl, ain't no holla at October 21, 2011 04:29 PM (LHi9T)

37

How to explain one Joe "Plugs" Biden?

Lead paint chips.

Posted by: fluffy Sunbeam, itinerant drummer at October 21, 2011 04:29 PM (3SvjA)

38 This tinfoil hat was starting to smell bad anyway.

Posted by: al-Cicero, Tea Party Jihadist at October 21, 2011 04:29 PM (QKKT0)

39

Posted by: nevergiveup at October 21, 2011 08:23 PM (aYQHH)

Heh, I'm a bachelor-for-life but my raison d'etre is my two little nieces. I'm pretty adept at texting as well.

Posted by: ErikW at October 21, 2011 04:30 PM (o1VvN)

40 Tomorrow, if it's warm enough, is the day I take me in my Tea Party Patriots t-shirt to Z-Park.  Looking forward to it!

Posted by: ParisParamus at October 21, 2011 04:32 PM (jzm8w)

41

Kewl, this means I can use my iPhone to spread the word about the evils of corprat greed.  Up twinkle!

Posted by: OWS trust fund baby at October 21, 2011 04:32 PM (f8XyF)

42 tmi3rd@21,

Good to see you're studying and not wasting time on the hobo recipes.

Posted by: MCAT Overlords at October 21, 2011 04:33 PM (REXkU)

43 I thought it was bassist.

So do you use flat or round wounds?

Posted by: Not Drinking Nearly Enough at October 21, 2011 04:33 PM (HtUdo)

44

How to explain one Joe "Plugs" Biden? Lead paint chips.


Naw,, slow Joe rode on a bullet train sitting backwards..I told him don't do it it will make you stooopid........

Posted by: beanervt at October 21, 2011 04:34 PM (+y4TK)

45 Put it on vibrate:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbYWBRPheXA

Posted by: ParisParamus at October 21, 2011 04:34 PM (jzm8w)

46 Cell phones do cause an increased risk of death! All the idiots so busy talking and texting on their phones have a tendency to hit people and things with their cars, or walk into oncoming traffic or obstacles are definitely upping the body count.

Causing cancer on the other hand... not so much.

Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston training for the ONT mudwrestling match at October 21, 2011 04:34 PM (ijjAe)

47 I hope this news doesn't get in the way of the latest machinations of the OWS Fascists against the repressed drummers who's blood and toil was the literal bricks and mortar of Wall Street.

Posted by: Minuteman at October 21, 2011 04:34 PM (CGxxU)

48 Remember when Rush strapped a cellphone to his head because he thought the cancer risk was bullshit?

Posted by: steevy at October 21, 2011 04:35 PM (fyOgS)

49 What is this, like the 87th study showing that cell phones do not have enough radiation to cause brain cancer? This is like Chris Christie rejecting running for president. How many times does it take before it sinks in?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 21, 2011 04:35 PM (r4wIV)

50 So do you use flat or round wounds?

Posted by: Not Drinking Nearly Enough at October 21, 2011 08:33 PM (HtUdo)

I play classical guitar, tie ends.

Posted by: ErikW at October 21, 2011 04:36 PM (o1VvN)

51 More good news.

I mean, really? Was this necessary?

Posted by: As If! at October 21, 2011 04:38 PM (piMMO)

52

Put it on vibrate:

I don't remember that one. I've got the cassette gathering dust in my basement.

Posted by: fluffy Sunbeam, itinerant drummer at October 21, 2011 04:38 PM (3SvjA)

53 How many times does it take before it sinks in?

Until next week when a Swedish study comprised of a sample population of three people is cited as evidence that cell phones do cause cancer.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 21, 2011 04:38 PM (SY2Kh)

54 Remember when Rush strapped a cellphone to his head because he thought the cancer risk was bullshit?

Shit, that was...1992? 1993? He still had the TV show.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at October 21, 2011 04:39 PM (lGVMg)

55 54 Yeah,it was a long time ago,shows you how long this bullshit idea has been around.

Posted by: steevy at October 21, 2011 04:40 PM (fyOgS)

56 The only Swedish study morons are truly interested in involves 20 something naturally beautiful women engaging in scandalous behavior.

Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston training for the ONT mudwrestling match at October 21, 2011 04:40 PM (ijjAe)

57 More good news.

I mean, really? Was this necessary?

It's a good venue for picking up chicks.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 21, 2011 04:41 PM (SY2Kh)

58 I just called, to say, I'll kill you....

Posted by: Brain cancer cell phones at October 21, 2011 04:42 PM (ze29X)

59 I'm waiting for the study that finally acknowledges that farting is a form of communication similar to language.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 21, 2011 04:42 PM (AF1jB)

60 Second hand smoke causes cancer though,right??

Posted by: steevy at October 21, 2011 04:43 PM (fyOgS)

61

I play classical guitar, tie ends.

Posted by: ErikW at October 21, 2011 08:36 PM (o1VvN)

But seriously, I just play country and classic rock.

I use a piezo-electric pickup that attaches to the low E side of the bridge that goes through a box to the board.

Posted by: ErikW at October 21, 2011 04:45 PM (o1VvN)

62 Cell phone cure cancer.

Posted by: that study to be cited by Verison at October 21, 2011 04:45 PM (MCklm)

63 It's a good venue for picking up chicks.

I hear Juliette Huddy is good to go.

Posted by: As If! at October 21, 2011 04:47 PM (piMMO)

64 Now for the case studies to finally determine if fapping causes blindness

Posted by: Moron Scientists at October 21, 2011 04:47 PM (Y+DPZ)

65

A cell phone killed Rush's TV show?

Respect the power ...

Posted by: Manfred von Brauerei-Mehrwertsteuer, Member, The League of Ugly Shirted Gentlemen at October 21, 2011 04:47 PM (NaQg8)

66 Exposure to cell phones has been proven to cause erratic behavior and lapses in judgement, which can lead to serious workplace conflicts.

Just ask Anthony Weiner.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 21, 2011 04:51 PM (SY2Kh)

67 Figures! Frickin 2 hours after I sign up for catastrophic health care coverage this story comes out. What a waste of money.

Posted by: Jimmah at October 21, 2011 04:53 PM (vj51i)

68 Blue Falcon in Boston training for the ONT mudwrestling match: "...Swedish study morons [...] engaging in scandalous behavior."

I believe that's Scandilous.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at October 21, 2011 04:55 PM (REXkU)

69

But seriously, I just play country and classic rock.

I use a piezo-electric pickup that attaches to the low E side of the bridge that goes through a box to the board.

Do you play professionally? I play bass with a few other over the hill guys, but it's mostly just an excuse to drink beer and play 80's metal really loud.

Posted by: Not Drinking Nearly Enough at October 21, 2011 04:57 PM (HtUdo)

70 #69, I forgot this was a pun thread.

Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston training for the ONT mudwrestling match at October 21, 2011 04:59 PM (ijjAe)

71 Do you play professionally? I play bass with a few other over the hill guys, but it's mostly just an excuse to drink beer and play 80's metal really loud.

Posted by: Not Drinking Nearly Enough at October 21, 2011 08:57 PM (HtUdo)

Nah, I just play for fun, I'm not really that good.

I learned keys and chord progressions when I played at church for a while.

I haven't played in a band for a while, that's damn good fun!

Posted by: ErikW at October 21, 2011 05:04 PM (o1VvN)

72 Exposure to cellphones does not cause cancer, but it has been known to cause blurry photographs, undecipherable text messages, payday loan offers, and people driving into crowds of schoolchildren while trying to help someone fix a bad MS Office installation over the phone.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of The 1% at October 21, 2011 05:23 PM (bxiXv)

73 I'm not going to bother reading the comments above but, yes, it's always been junk science crap going back to the first ravings trying to link the two.

Posted by: andycanuck at October 21, 2011 06:47 PM (OKhgI)

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