May 13, 2011

Google Introduces New Computer-Like Object, Where Everything Happens On the Web
— Ace

Cloud computing -- it all happens elsewhere. Computations are made in some server farm, then the results are beamed to your computer. You save everything somewhere else.

Downside? Well, it's Google, so that means Google gets to see all of your stuff.

I tell you this is a weird situation that people don't really appreciate the full weirdness of. And by "people," I include myself, because I keep being surprised to learn, for example, that the feds can look at your web-based email without warrant so long as it's more than six months old.

Google is voracious as far as personal information. I don't think I'm overstating it by too much when I call Google the largest private espionage organization in history. And if they're not engaged in actual espionage frequently, that's only because they lack the will and it doesn't fit the business model, not that they lack the capability.

The next step is to not merely trust your email to this company but all of your documents, pictures, downloads, songs, and viewing history too.

Benefit? It's a neat idea.

Drawback? Do you feel lucky?

Another drawback, underscored by AllahPundit: you'd think that since you're not getting real computer here, just a monitor, a video display chip, and a web connection, you should only be paying a small amount of money for it.

In fact, you're paying less than you would for a real computer, but not really all that much less.

There's an odd thing happening. Something that David Cronenberg should be making a movie about. We are, weirdly, becoming unconcerned with privacy and more tolerant of exposure.

The former head of Google even said if you don't want to be embarrassed by invasions of privacy, just don't do anything embarrassing.

Insidiously -- without many noticing or taking stock of the situation, because it just happens step by step and it's so convenient to just go with it -- the Machine is adapting our psychology so we can better interface with it. Sure, the Machine is adapting too, but the Machine is supposed to adapt to us.

But it's adapting us just as much.

The Machine likes central processing and everything in the world being recorded in binary code and doesn't like secrets; the Machine is conditioning us step-by-step to accept its preferred paradigm of the world.

For some reason, whenever I read this kind of story, I think about the so-so meh movie Sneakers, all about a super-ultra-codebreaking chip that will instantly render all encryption useless.

"Too Many Secrets," the chip's inventor leaves behind as a code/suicide note (at 1:30).

Well, maybe "Too Many Secrets," but who is Google to judge?

Posted by: Ace at 02:53 PM | Comments (278)
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1 Weird, "The Machine" was a nickname an old girlfriend gave me once.

Posted by: John Ensign at May 13, 2011 02:56 PM (+lsX1)

2 Hexadecimal rocks!

Posted by: Havedash at May 13, 2011 02:56 PM (pQJ1M)

3 Too late for me, damn it!

Posted by: ex-Senator John Ensign at May 13, 2011 02:57 PM (IN2A4)

4 Fuck Google. (I hope they didn't read that)

Posted by: Dr Spank at May 13, 2011 02:57 PM (kaZUb)

5 Sooo... if'n somone downloads child porn on one, is Google then liable?

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 13, 2011 02:57 PM (NtXW4)

Posted by: Darth Randall at May 13, 2011 02:58 PM (O/onO)

7

I can't wait for Google Borg.

Posted by: Ben at May 13, 2011 02:58 PM (DKV43)

8 Mainframes with green screens ..old is new again.

Posted by: wildwood at May 13, 2011 02:59 PM (VSWPU)

9 I've never understood the appeal of cloud computing. I like to have as much data as possible stored locally.

Posted by: RAWN PAWL at May 13, 2011 02:59 PM (XCCTv)

10 The Machine doesn't bother me, it's the System that'll fuck ya.

Posted by: Dr Spank at May 13, 2011 02:59 PM (kaZUb)

11 Bad kharma man, bad kharma.

Posted by: IE Con at May 13, 2011 02:59 PM (/COcn)

12 Meh. You know who's going to buy Chromebooks? Poor people that can't afford anything else. As long as it has the cachet of Hepatitis C, this isn't anything we're going to have to worry about. But no, you shouldn't trust Google one bit. They've proven that time and time again.

Posted by: Rajiv Vindaloo at May 13, 2011 02:59 PM (oDUHp)

13 We got no FOOD, we got no JOBS...our pets' HEADS ARE FALLING OFF!

Posted by: PBoilermaker at May 13, 2011 02:59 PM (jU2vI)

14

Sneakers what a good movie. I miss River Phoenix.

 

I like when Dan Akroid mentions getting information from a friend who fought in the gulf war, for the other side.

Posted by: Ben at May 13, 2011 03:00 PM (DKV43)

15 >>>You know who's going to buy Chromebooks? Poor people that can't afford anything else. They're not even all that cheap. Although I guess for the price point you get more storage space than most computers.

Posted by: ace at May 13, 2011 03:00 PM (nj1bB)

16

In Soviet Union, computer programs you.

Posted by: Yakov Smirnoff at May 13, 2011 03:00 PM (QKKT0)

17 That's why commenters here always keep their emotions on the down-low.  Don't want to feed the ace-machine.  The ace-machine flourishes on fear and loathing.  Beware the machine.

Posted by: Soona at May 13, 2011 03:01 PM (4HYWk)

18 BTW, "cloud computing" is what we used to call "timesharing." it's about as cutting-edge as disco.

Posted by: Rajiv Vindaloo at May 13, 2011 03:01 PM (oDUHp)

19 yeah, ben, I guess Sneakers is pretty good. I hate even saying it's pretty good though. Robert Redford and all. It's definitely not really good. But better than "so-so meh."

Posted by: ace at May 13, 2011 03:01 PM (nj1bB)

20 Weird, "The Machine" was a nickname an old girlfriend gave me once.

Posted by: John Ensign at May 13, 2011 06:56 PM (+lsX1)

She gave me that nickname too!

Posted by: Will Folks at May 13, 2011 03:01 PM (P60UN)

21 Umm, I know a thing or two about federal law enforcement and search warrants/court orders/subpoenas for online email because of my job of 30 years   - I can't believe you didn't know they could do that, Ace - and I would never, ever, ever use this moronic "cloud" thing. It's an open invitation to have the government, and anyone else to steal and/or manipulate your personal information.

Posted by: TRO at May 13, 2011 03:02 PM (I6mxF)

22 The idea of the Thin Client comes and goes.  Perhaps there is a niche for those people who look upon computers as appliances rather than tools they enjoy sharpening and tinkering with. 

The Mac people, like my Pop, who I'll be helping over the phone and when I mention Right-Mouse, sighs and asks why Windows has to be so complicated when his Mac only has the one button.

Posted by: toby928™ at May 13, 2011 03:02 PM (GTbGH)

23 I have gmail. I get a lot of work related email with files attached. I use to download all the files but it got to be too much. The emails also contain substantive material that I need. So, I just store everything on gmail. If they ever make it impossible to download the attached files-- I'm screwed. But, I don't have the time or storage to download all these files.

Posted by: Tough US Immigration Policies at May 13, 2011 03:02 PM (x/4B/)

24 The Machine likes central processing and everything in the world being recorded in binary code and doesn't like secrets; the Machine is conditioning us step-by-step to accept its preferred paradigm of the world.

For what it's worth, the Machine still has one basic flaw.

Posted by: The Power Cord at May 13, 2011 03:03 PM (uqJo6)

25 There is no privacy on the innertubes.   Binary is absolute.

Posted by: Fritz at May 13, 2011 03:03 PM (AN8d5)

26 Google = EVIL

Posted by: Dr. Strangelove at May 13, 2011 03:03 PM (xEXzN)

27
That's why commenters here always keep their emotions on the down-low.




You must have missed the epic Pollock vs Cod thread. Made Gaga vs Madonna, 9mm vs .45 and North vs South look like Sunday School.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 13, 2011 03:03 PM (7YzRS)

28 Osama was an early adopter. Look where that got him.

Posted by: Cherry π at May 13, 2011 03:03 PM (+sBB4)

29 The niche may also be those people who have their entire family photo album on their machine, and never back it up.  Disk drives die, people.  That's why there is a booming business in data recovery from crashed out hard drives.

Posted by: toby928™ at May 13, 2011 03:03 PM (GTbGH)

30 BTW, "cloud computing" is what we used to call "timesharing." It's so old it's new.

Posted by: George Orwell at May 13, 2011 03:04 PM (AZGON)

31

yeah, ben, I guess Sneakers is pretty good. I hate even saying it's pretty good though. Robert Redford and all.

It's definitely not really good. But better than "so-so meh."

It was good for its time. It was in a genre that seemed to flourish in the 1990s.

I too hate Redford, but I remember a ton of lines from that movie.

"Turn around, Midnight"

Posted by: Ben at May 13, 2011 03:04 PM (DKV43)

32 Sneakers was ok, the problem is Robert Redford can't act anymore. Three Days Of The Condor was better.

Posted by: Dr Spank at May 13, 2011 03:05 PM (kaZUb)

33 There is another system.

Posted by: Colossus at May 13, 2011 03:05 PM (AZGON)

34 Alinsky: If you push a negative hard enough, it becomes a positive!

Posted by: Cherry π at May 13, 2011 03:05 PM (+sBB4)

35 Don't worry about this. In a few weeks you'll be able to trust Apple with all your crap and gay porn instead!

Posted by: Steve Jobs at May 13, 2011 03:05 PM (oDUHp)

36 WEB TV!

Dumbasses have been trying to do this every three years since the mid-1980s.

It always fails, but I guess the lure is strong enough to drag them back every time. Kind of like socialism - you know, you don't own or control anything you have, but it's cheap!

There is a "success" angle here of "mobile identities" that can store certain data and programs that are fairly mobile and access on public terminals, android and iPhone phones, etc. There is no "standard" for that behavior, there are many apps and services that don't inter-operate well.

As far as the "appliance" that does everything cheap, well, no. It will not keep up with technological changes, and won't do anything well but documents and e-mail. Which is enough for some people, they did sell a lot of webTV thingies, but it didn't take long to die as a market.

Also, bad timing right after the Sony/Playstation hack.

BTW, no, none of your online data is secure. You should lie a lot when applying for things/accounts online. If you want secure data online you have to encrypt it before it goes online, and even that's no guarantee. Also disguise it. That's also no guarantee.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 13, 2011 03:05 PM (bxiXv)

37 They're not even all that cheap. Although I guess for the price point you get more storage space than most computers.

How many terabytes does the average person really need? Or can they even use?

Posted by: Methos at May 13, 2011 03:05 PM (uqJo6)

38

How many terabytes does the average person really need? Or can they even use?

i probably use 30% of my computer.

I'm not doing autocad or anything. Just come music, some pictures, and some documents.

 

Posted by: Ben at May 13, 2011 03:06 PM (DKV43)

39 37 Don't worry about this. In a few weeks you'll be able to trust Apple with all your crap and gay porn instead!

Posted by: Steve Jobs at May 13, 2011 07:05 PM (oDUHp)

wha...WHAT???

Posted by: Bawney Fwank at May 13, 2011 03:07 PM (xEXzN)

40 I don't even trust my own network.  2 drives on every PC.

Posted by: Cherry π at May 13, 2011 03:07 PM (+sBB4)

41 This is Unix; I know this!

Posted by: That damn snot-nosed punk kid girl in Jurassic Park at May 13, 2011 03:07 PM (oDUHp)

42 How many terabytes does the average person really need? Or can they even use?

3.  Grandfather, father, son.

Posted by: toby928™ at May 13, 2011 03:07 PM (GTbGH)

43 >>>How many terabytes does the average person really need? Or can they even use? 72 terabytes, yes.

Posted by: Usama Bin Ladin's Paid Porn Downloader at May 13, 2011 03:07 PM (nj1bB)

44 I'm sure our personal information is perfectly safe in the hands of rabid leftist neo-venture capitalist moonbats. Right?

Absolutely. There's nothing to fear in having all your personal data stored online on some server you can't control.

Posted by: Playstation Network User #64,928,671 at May 13, 2011 03:07 PM (uqJo6)

45 You must have missed the epic Pollock vs Cod thread. Made Gaga vs Madonna, 9mm vs .45 and North vs South look like Sunday School.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 13, 2011 07:03 PM (7YzRS)

 

I missed that one.  Missed the longbow thread too.  I guess I have too much of a life (and a job).

Posted by: Soona at May 13, 2011 03:08 PM (4HYWk)

46 O.T.: Anybody following the use of super injunctions in the UK? Celebrities caught dipping their wicks elsewhere get them to shut up the adverse publicity. Quite popular among actors and footballers. It's amazing that they can get away with this crap.

Posted by: Tough US Immigration Policies at May 13, 2011 03:08 PM (x/4B/)

47 Re: Sneakers

Would have been 100% better if not for the last minute before the credits, after the shy guy asks for the girl's phone number.

You know, where Hollywood gave Republicans the finger for no story-telling reason - the guy with the secret chip stealing from (was it the NRA or GOP?) and giving to some lefty cause.

Kind of like how The Kingdom lost two stars in the last minute of screen time. A lot of movies do that.

Not like the game Far Cry 2, which lost ALL of its stars at the end, and went negative. Freakin' Dostoevsky would have killed himself at the end of that game.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 13, 2011 03:08 PM (bxiXv)

48 This is Unix; I know this!

Oh shit, I laughed so hard at that interface.  Movie interfaces are either 3D graphical cities, or they are super powerful command line hacking things.

Access Denied.

OVERRIDE!

Access Granted.

Posted by: toby928™ at May 13, 2011 03:09 PM (GTbGH)

49 49 He stole from the GOP,I believe.Maybe others as well.

Posted by: steevy at May 13, 2011 03:10 PM (MLyR6)

50 There IS no right to privacy.

Posted by: Google's Official Legal Stance at May 13, 2011 03:10 PM (1fanL)

51 Kind of like how The Kingdom lost two stars in the last minute of screen time. A lot of movies do that.

What happened in the last 2 minutes?

Posted by: PBoilermaker at May 13, 2011 03:10 PM (jU2vI)

52 Access Denied. OVERRIDE! Access Granted. Hey! How did you know my password for everything? I used to use "password" but I got clever and changed it.

Posted by: George Orwell at May 13, 2011 03:11 PM (AZGON)

53

Yeah, I wouldn't trust Google with squat but I'm getting more and more paranoid lately.

On the other privacy hand, since I dealt blackjack for many years, surveillance cameras don't bother me. I'm kind of used to the idea of being potentially taped anywhere in public.

Posted by: Stateless Canadian Infidel at May 13, 2011 03:11 PM (GKQDR)

54 Yeah, i still don't trust anybody enough to keep my files, however innocuous, anywhere but my own hard drive. Memory is cheap these days and that's why everyone is offering up a place for you to put your files, because they have plenty of space, but i'm just not gonna do it. I was amazed at how invasive even my new Android phone was, on just about every app that came with it i had to allow Google permission to use my location, share it and so on.

Posted by: booger at May 13, 2011 03:12 PM (9RFH1)

55 Just come music, some pictures, and some documents.

 

Posted by: Ben at May 13, 2011 07:06 PM (DKV43)

Speaking of fascinating new ideas.  Or are you talking about that 70s porn soundtrack stuff?

Posted by: FUBAR at May 13, 2011 03:12 PM (1fanL)

56
The storage space argument doesn't really hold much water anymore. Not when you can buy a 1TB external backup drive for around $100. 

Other than storage, I can't think of any reason why the cloud is any more useful than a dedicated desktop/laptop computer. You can get free open-source versions just about any software the average person/business might need just by downloading from the web. And since it's open-source, it's perfectly legal.

Actually, the only thing the cloud has going for it is that it's computing for lazy people who don't do backups.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 13, 2011 03:12 PM (7YzRS)

57 And since this is a quasi-security thread   TrueCrypt.com

Simple, invisible and free.

Posted by: toby928™ at May 13, 2011 03:12 PM (GTbGH)

58 No, really, it's totally private.

Posted by: Chris Hansen at May 13, 2011 03:12 PM (oDUHp)

59 48 O.T.: Anybody following the use of super injunctions in the UK? Celebrities caught dipping their wicks elsewhere get them to shut up the adverse publicity. Quite popular among actors and footballers. It's amazing that they can get away with this crap.

Posted by: Tough US Immigration Policies at May 13, 2011 07:08 PM (x/4B/)

They don't have free speech. Duh.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 13, 2011 03:12 PM (bxiXv)

60 #48 Yes, re superinjunctions. I even made it a point to find out who they were protecting ( from the twitter outing), just because. I don't even recognize the names except Jeremy Clarkson, but that is in some dispute.

Posted by: lauren at May 13, 2011 03:12 PM (ibCFU)

61 Will they check to see if you own all your content?

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at May 13, 2011 03:12 PM (qIHlG)

62 Also, how come my computer isn't like those cool ones in the movies where every keystroke makes a sine wave beep as I type?

Posted by: George Orwell at May 13, 2011 03:14 PM (AZGON)

63 The storage space argument doesn't really hold much water anymore. Not when you can buy a 1TB external backup drive for around $100. 


Word.  At one of my clients, the disk array has 20T+ of redundant RAID storage and it takes up the floor space of a refrigerator.

Times have changed.

Posted by: toby928™ at May 13, 2011 03:14 PM (GTbGH)

64 Backup?  I could've used some of that.

Posted by: Moses at May 13, 2011 03:14 PM (1fanL)

65 Will they check to see if you own all your content?

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at May 13, 2011 07:12 PM (qIHlG)

Your paranoia is disquieting, citizen.

Posted by: Recording Industry Association of America at May 13, 2011 03:14 PM (QKKT0)

66 I can think of one use for cloud storage: Music, if you have a lot of it. Set up your library once and stream it anywhere from any device. That's it though, and you need to have a metric fuckton of songs for it to make sense.

Posted by: Rajiv Vindaloo at May 13, 2011 03:14 PM (oDUHp)

67 The ChromeBook is basically an Android Tablet at twice the cost. I hope they don't sell a single one, it's offensively arrogant.

They'll sell a few, of course.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 13, 2011 03:14 PM (bxiXv)

68 Meanwhile, what's going on with the Althouse blog (apparently deleted by Blogger from the web for being "spam") is ridiculous, surreal. What *is* going on with the Althouse blog?

Posted by: lael at May 13, 2011 03:15 PM (9fJ3H)

69 Yeah, another vote for TrueCrypt or similar software. Plus, if Barry stays in until 2016, we may want to get more familiar with torproject.org.

Posted by: George Orwell at May 13, 2011 03:16 PM (AZGON)

70 OT but dayum, even Canadians are blasting Romney on Sun News.  I love it!

Posted by: logprof at May 13, 2011 03:16 PM (BP6Z1)

71 53 Kind of like how The Kingdom lost two stars in the last minute of screen time. A lot of movies do that.

What happened in the last 2 minutes?

Posted by: PBoilermaker at May 13, 2011 07:10 PM (jU2vI)

Moral Equivalence. They had a scene where the good guys angsted and the bad guys sat around plotting badness, basically using the same phrases, to show that the people stopping terrorists were really all the same as the child-raping hand-cutting, goat-screwing school-bus-bombing savages they were fighting.

Basically turning the movie on its head.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 13, 2011 03:17 PM (bxiXv)

72 HD video

Posted by: Cherry π at May 13, 2011 03:17 PM (+sBB4)

73 500 gig ex hard drives are $60-$70 bucks. Cloud is un necessary.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at May 13, 2011 03:17 PM (qIHlG)

74

Shit, people.  Let's face it.  Even if one doesn't use this service, the etherworld knows absulutely everything about us.  I'm not fooling myself anymore.  Even if I unplugged my computer right now and never used it again, people would still be able to track my every move.

Personal privacy has been dead for a long time.

Posted by: Soona at May 13, 2011 03:17 PM (4HYWk)

75 Meanwhile, what's going on with the Althouse blog (apparently deleted by Blogger from the web for being "spam") is ridiculous, surreal. What *is* going on with the Althouse blog? Blogger is down. All Blogspot-hosted blogs are hosed. Just reason #7,398 not to trust Google to host your life.

Posted by: Rajiv Vindaloo at May 13, 2011 03:18 PM (oDUHp)

76 >>>Ace here's G4's sort of review of one of the prototypes of these from a few month back if you want to have a look at their opinions on it. is the video game girl with the tits on it?

Posted by: ace at May 13, 2011 03:18 PM (nj1bB)

77 I can think of one use for cloud storage: Music, if you have a lot of it. Set up your library once and stream it anywhere from any device.

I actually do that on my Roku box, although it has a 10gb limit for the free version and i got a shitload more than 10gigs but i ain't payin' for it damnit.

Posted by: booger at May 13, 2011 03:18 PM (9RFH1)

78 This is Ace's best post in awhile.

I don't think I'm overstating it by too much when I call Google the largest private espionage organization in history.

You tell 'em!

Posted by: Oh, Hi Mark at May 13, 2011 03:18 PM (4TH9v)

79

Funny... as my old HotMail account got highjacked today....

nothing on the web is safe...

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 13, 2011 03:18 PM (NtXW4)

80 Morgan Webb. Yeah, it's not her. Just two dweebs. Thanks for nuttin'.

Posted by: ace at May 13, 2011 03:18 PM (nj1bB)

81 Moral Equivalence. They had a scene where the good guys angsted and the bad guys sat around plotting badness, basically using the same phrases, to show that the people stopping terrorists were really all the same as the child-raping hand-cutting, goat-screwing school-bus-bombing savages they were fighting.

Huh.  I didn't read it that way.  I got more of a Those squatting savages never learn and they delude themselves into thinking they are the good guys vibe.  But, to each his own.

Posted by: toby928™ at May 13, 2011 03:19 PM (GTbGH)

82 I am waiving at the Google Earth cameras right now.

Posted by: Cherry π at May 13, 2011 03:19 PM (+sBB4)

83 71 Meanwhile, what's going on with the Althouse blog (apparently deleted by Blogger from the web for being "spam") is ridiculous, surreal. What *is* going on with the Althouse blog?

Posted by: lael at May 13, 2011 07:15 PM (9fJ3H)

She pissed off the leftists and unions, take a wild guess what happened.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 13, 2011 03:19 PM (bxiXv)

84 Kids put everything on Facebook. They don't have the same sense of privacy that an older generation does. They will be fully receptive, IMO. Not me.

Posted by: lauren at May 13, 2011 03:19 PM (ibCFU)

85 SE Cupp was on Beck's show today though.MMMM,SE Cupp....

Posted by: steevy at May 13, 2011 03:20 PM (MLyR6)

86 web-based email without warrant so long as it's more than six months old.

Well, ace. That is surprising! I wonder if you would have been surprised when Bush/Cheney eviscerated our fourth amendment rights, you would have blogged fiery remonstrations and Olympian denouncements of the conversion of the Internet into a Big Brother spy portal.

If only you had known!

Posted by: Lucifer, John Ashcroft's personal savior at May 13, 2011 03:20 PM (BHSVg)

87 I thought distributed computing was dead when the PC killed the VAX.  I guess the ADP wizards never gave up their control fantasies.

Posted by: Jean at May 13, 2011 03:20 PM (7P7Ij)

88 >>>Kids put everything on Facebook. They don't have the same sense of privacy that an older generation doe exactly, they have no sense (as we older ones do) of how fundamentally weird this is. To them, it's normal.

Posted by: ace at May 13, 2011 03:20 PM (nj1bB)

89

Posted by: lael at May 13, 2011 07:15 PM (9fJ3H)

I agree.  At first I thought it was just that Blogger was down, but it's back up and her site isn't available.  I'm a little hopeful since the message said the name wasn't available to a new blog either.  My fingers are crossed that it's a mistake and nothing permanent.  The PR for Blogger would be pretty bad if they booted her.

Posted by: Polliwog at May 13, 2011 03:20 PM (pjFVf)

90 I wonder if you would have been surprised when Bush/Cheney eviscerated our fourth amendment rights

Hahahahaha!

Posted by: toby928™ at May 13, 2011 03:20 PM (GTbGH)

91 Blogger is down. All Blogspot-hosted blogs are hosed.

Just reason #7,398 not to trust Google to host your life.

Posted by: Rajiv Vindaloo at May 13, 2011 07:18 PM (oDUHp)

I can get to other blogspot sites, but not althouse.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 13, 2011 03:21 PM (bxiXv)

92 Ooooh. I want to say VAX, AS400, Cobol, Fortran again.  The good times.

Posted by: Cherry π at May 13, 2011 03:21 PM (+sBB4)

93 And why can't I type 700 words-per-minute like those people do?

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at May 13, 2011 07:16 PM (vbh31)

 

It's because you're not a computer genius.  Computer geniuses can do absolutely everything well except fucking. 

Posted by: Soona at May 13, 2011 03:22 PM (4HYWk)

94
I can think of one use for cloud storage: Music, if you have a lot of it. Set up your library once and stream it anywhere from any device.

That's it though, and you need to have a metric fuckton of songs for it to make sense.





How many 3 minute songs can someone listen to in a day?

I'd reckon that the average playlist has a maximum of around 4-8GB of their favorite music that they listen to on a regular basis (weekly/daily), with maybe twice that amount of music that is listened to occasionally (monthly).

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 13, 2011 03:22 PM (7YzRS)

95

There was an ariticle in the Seattle Times about chrome book, it's more expensive than a laptop that does more and it isn't much smaller. They thought people might buy it because it's google. If they do that's their problem.

I never use anything google, what happens when they find out you hate Obama and load a bunch of child porn on your cloud for ya and call the cops. fuck those guys.

Posted by: robtr at May 13, 2011 03:22 PM (MtwBb)

96 What sort of stuff did Althouse blog about?

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at May 13, 2011 03:23 PM (qIHlG)

97 Also, OpenPGP for all your conspiracy needs.

Posted by: toby928™ at May 13, 2011 03:23 PM (GTbGH)

98 Well, ace. That is surprising! I wonder if you would have been surprised when Bush/Cheney eviscerated our fourth amendment rights,

Posted by: Lucifer, John Ashcroft's personal savior at May 13, 2011 07:20 PM (BHSVg)

Clinton. Carnivore. Bush just used it against terrorists instead of conservative talk show hosts.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 13, 2011 03:23 PM (bxiXv)

99 There's no goddamn privacy anymore!

Posted by: Guy tweeting on his iphone from the shitter in Carls Jr. at May 13, 2011 03:24 PM (+lsX1)

100 The whole thing is to be able to charge you a monthly fee. All these computer companies want to be like the cable and phone companies.

Posted by: Iblis at May 13, 2011 03:25 PM (6IoUn)

101

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at May 13, 2011 07:23 PM (qIHlG)

She and her husband broke, and followed up on, the story of the complete union freak-out in Madison.

Posted by: Polliwog at May 13, 2011 03:25 PM (pjFVf)

102 Now, I have horrible luck with hard drives - they die on me at the drop of a hat, so a drive less computer is a nice idea. All my stuff on someone else's server - that part is not appealing at all. When this hard drive dies I'm opting for a solid-state flash drive. No moving parts, solves most issues.

Posted by: Rodney C. Johnson at May 13, 2011 03:25 PM (5uGq7)

103 One of the single stupidest movie hacker gimmicks ever perpetrated had to be in "Independence Day." Because you just wouldn't even question some earthling hacker's cheesy laptop computer system being fully compatible with the technology of a freaking interstellar space-faring civilization. No, no incompatibilities with hardware, with voltages or current, with freaking operating systems or syntax or machine language written by aliens thousands of years advanced over you or even if you have a fucking dongle that plugs into... hey, why would aliens even have plugs? And the weasel hacker can bring down an advanced alien vessel the size of Rhode Island in seconds with a virus he wrote because, I guess, aliens don't have anti-virus software. Oh man, that was one stoooopid plot gimmick.

Posted by: George Orwell at May 13, 2011 03:25 PM (AZGON)

104 All Blogspot blogs were down earlier. They must be bringing it back up in sections or something. Instapundit posted saying that was Althouse's problem.

Posted by: Rajiv Vindaloo at May 13, 2011 03:26 PM (oDUHp)

105
And why can't I type 700 words-per-minute like those people do?



One-handed, even (think Stallone and Banderas in Assassins).

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 13, 2011 03:26 PM (7YzRS)

106 exactly, they have no sense (as we older ones do) of how fundamentally weird this is. To them, it's normal.

Posted by: ace at May 13, 2011 07:20 PM (nj1bB)

Yeah it will be normal until their future boss checks out their facebook page and takes a pass on hiring them. Which probably explains some of why 18-29 year olds have a 25% unemployment rate.

Posted by: robtr at May 13, 2011 03:26 PM (MtwBb)

107 I refuse to make another video of myself dancing for quarters on the wharf, while bottomless and in a tube top, possibly high on PCP, if my parents and coworkers won't accidentally see it.

Posted by: Joanie (Oven Gloves) at May 13, 2011 03:26 PM (y/+eD)

108 OT but I must plug VirginMobile-US's no-contract $25 a month unlimited text and data plan.  My son is well pleased with his android phone and tethers his laptop to the internet with it.  Savings to me=$60 a month.

Posted by: toby928™ at May 13, 2011 03:26 PM (GTbGH)

109 Will this Cloud you speak of affect my Pong or WordPerfect?

Posted by: jeannebodine at May 13, 2011 03:27 PM (nvlAW)

110 The whole thing is to be able to charge you a monthly fee. All these computer companies want to be like the cable and phone companies. Yeah, no thank you.

Posted by: George Orwell at May 13, 2011 03:27 PM (AZGON)

111 Meanwhile, what's going on with the Althouse blog (apparently deleted by Blogger from the web for being "spam") is ridiculous, surreal. What *is* going on with the Althouse blog?

Posted by: lael at May 13, 2011 07:15 PM (9fJ3H)

Maybe they got tired of her insufferable, pointy-headed, elitest, Obama-voting BS.

Just spitballin'.

Posted by: FUBAR at May 13, 2011 03:28 PM (1fanL)

112 113 How you doin'?

Posted by: steevy at May 13, 2011 03:28 PM (MLyR6)

113 I hear HD porn videos are popular in the middle east

Posted by: Cherry π at May 13, 2011 03:28 PM (+sBB4)

114 I'd reckon that the average playlist has a maximum of around 4-8GB of their favorite music that they listen to on a regular basis (weekly/daily), with maybe twice that amount of music that is listened to occasionally (monthly).

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 13, 2011 07:22 PM (7YzRS)

I have around 3,000 songs on my playlist but most of them are the other dozen or so songs on that particular album that I don't listen to.

I probably only listen to a couple hundred or so faves according to my mood. I mostly use my Ipod for podcasting.

Posted by: ErikW at May 13, 2011 03:28 PM (P60UN)

115 You buy a couple of three ex hard drives and they outlast your next 10 computers. No monthly fees. The Althouse thing reminds me of last year when during everyone draw moohamhead day Facebook repoed  my farm.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at May 13, 2011 03:28 PM (qIHlG)

116

And the weasel hacker can bring down an advanced alien vessel the size of Rhode Island in seconds with a virus he wrote because, I guess, aliens don't have anti-virus software.

We had anti-virus software but it was McAffee.

Posted by: An Advanced Spacefaring Civilization That Buys Its Computers Preloaded with Trial Version Crapplets at May 13, 2011 03:29 PM (QKKT0)

117 Yea, wait until they cancel your account because you linked a Mohamed photo somewhere.

Posted by: Cherry π at May 13, 2011 03:30 PM (+sBB4)

118 Because you just wouldn't even question some earthling hacker's cheesy laptop computer system being fully compatible with the technology of a freaking interstellar space-faring civilization.

Heh.  I received this CERT Bulletin after that movie came out.

Posted by: toby928™ at May 13, 2011 03:30 PM (GTbGH)

119 #123 Okay, I grant you that makes it plausible.

Posted by: George Orwell at May 13, 2011 03:30 PM (AZGON)

120 You mean Google has my porn stash too?

Posted by: zombie bin Laden at May 13, 2011 03:30 PM (1IjKi)

121 Omy 233 songs,1.09 mb on my playlist.

Posted by: steevy at May 13, 2011 03:31 PM (MLyR6)

122 I spurn Google and rely strictly on AceOS. The only laptop that runs for twelve hours on a bottle of Valu-Rite hooch. We call it clod computing.

Posted by: Rajiv Vindaloo at May 13, 2011 03:31 PM (oDUHp)

123 @125 B. Patch As root, install the "evil" package from the distribution tape. The alpha candidate for that package was code-named "Cheney."

Posted by: George Orwell at May 13, 2011 03:31 PM (AZGON)

124 If Google has everything you ever did on it's computers, are you still alive?

Posted by: Cherry π at May 13, 2011 03:32 PM (+sBB4)

125 You mean Google has my porn stash too?

Posted by: zombie bin Laden at May 13, 2011 07:30 PM (1IjKi)

Somebody need a porn 'stache?

Posted by: John Bolton at May 13, 2011 03:32 PM (1fanL)

126

If this story is true, it means google has CP. If they have CP then they are child molesters and all should be in prison for a very long time...like a google years.

Well?

Posted by: torabora at May 13, 2011 03:32 PM (1IjKi)

127 I actually liked ID4 while watching it and for a while afterwards.Mass hypnosis is the only thing that makes sense.

Posted by: steevy at May 13, 2011 03:32 PM (MLyR6)

128 The only laptop that runs for twelve hours on a bottle of Valu-Rite hooch. We call it clod computing. In AceOS, it's not called "compiling," it's called "distilling."

Posted by: George Orwell at May 13, 2011 03:33 PM (AZGON)

129

I have around 3,000 songs on my playlist but most of them are the other dozen or so songs on that particular album that I don't listen to.

I probably only listen to a couple hundred or so faves according to my mood. I mostly use my Ipod for podcasting.




Hell, I have about 7800 songs in mine (I just checked). But I have about 5 different playlists set up for different moods, with about 75 songs each that I use at work or home. 90% of my music listening is with just under 400 songs.

I'm pretty sure that we're much the same as most other people.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 13, 2011 03:33 PM (7YzRS)

130 If Google has everything you ever did on it's computers, are you still alive?

Posted by: Cherry π at May 13, 2011 07:32 PM (+sBB4)

You realize we're all living in a simulation run on a Google server.

Posted by: FUBAR at May 13, 2011 03:33 PM (1fanL)

131 114 OT but I must plug VirginMobile-US's no-contract $25 a month unlimited text and data plan.  My son is well pleased with his android phone and tethers his laptop to the internet with it.  Savings to me=$60 a month.


Same here, got it about a month ago after Chemjeff talked about it, couldn't be happier with it. Only drawback is no roaming, but the coverage is good enough to where there shouldn't be a problem unless i'm way out in the sticks of Montana or something.

Posted by: booger at May 13, 2011 03:33 PM (9RFH1)

132 132 He even has a good porn name.Hmm,do we know everything about the mans past??

Posted by: steevy at May 13, 2011 03:34 PM (MLyR6)

133 Of course we are bitching about Google cloud hosting a PC, on a weblog hosted by "Pixy" somewhere in the South Pacific running on some hacked together server scripts; when we should be dialing into Ace's basement BBS.

Posted by: Jean at May 13, 2011 03:34 PM (7P7Ij)

134 Go to Insty & scroll down for links about Ann Althouse- a self-important admin or mod, nightcruzr, has shut her down and is acting like Mussolini- or Duh!1....

Posted by: backhoe at May 13, 2011 03:35 PM (0bk6W)

135 You realize we're all living in a simulation run on a Google server. Blue pill, red pill?

Posted by: George Orwell at May 13, 2011 03:35 PM (AZGON)

136 140, whaaaa!!!

Posted by: Cherry π at May 13, 2011 03:35 PM (+sBB4)

137 If you don't own the content you are storing and Google stores it, doesn't that make Google a co conspirator?

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at May 13, 2011 03:35 PM (qIHlG)

138 Sure, a significant portion of the computer-using population would have no problem with this. Those people who's computer usage is limited to e-mail, Facebook, Twitter, and occasionally creating documents.

These are the same people I tell to buy a computer from a known manufacturer, so they've got the backstop of a warranty.

These are the same people that could use nothing but an iPad and would probably be happier for it.

Posted by: DarkFlounder at May 13, 2011 03:35 PM (eA5TH)

139 Until my local isp gets a whole lot more reliable, cloud computing would mean too many periods of slow computing or no computing. I'd rather have as much as possible under my own control.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 13, 2011 03:36 PM (k34Gz)

Posted by: logprof at May 13, 2011 03:36 PM (BP6Z1)

141 49 Re: Sneakers
Would have been 100% better if not for the last minute before the credits, after the shy guy asks for the girl's phone number.
You know, where Hollywood gave Republicans the finger for no story-telling reason - the guy with the secret chip stealing from (was it the NRA or GOP?) and giving to some lefty cause.

He hacked the Republican National Committee and sent all their money to the United Negro College Fund.

It's been almost 20 years and I remember that so clearly.  It was one of the ultimate out-of-left field Hollywood fuck-yous and destroyed the entire movie that preceded it.

Fuck Sneakers.

Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at May 13, 2011 03:36 PM (FYCiJ)

142 Blue pill, red pill?

Posted by: George Orwell at May 13, 2011 07:35 PM (AZGON)

BLUE!

Posted by: Cypher at May 13, 2011 03:37 PM (1fanL)

143

They are going to want to tie this into the smart grid bullshit. 

Posted by: garrett at May 13, 2011 03:37 PM (o92B0)

144 I'm still looking for the Girl in the Red Dress.

Posted by: toby928™ at May 13, 2011 03:37 PM (GTbGH)

145 Google's cloud just disappeared a bunch of blogs, including Althouse the last couple of days. Who wants to deal with that crap from a lefty political corporation. Hey Boss, the cloud ate my report is going to get your ass fired no matter what. Cloud my ass.

Posted by: laddy at May 13, 2011 03:38 PM (YEHo+)

146 The only laptop that runs for twelve hours on a bottle of Valu-Rite hooch.

I've actually run laptops on ethanol, or more precisely on batteries charged by an ethanol or methanol fuel cell.  It works.

Posted by: Jean at May 13, 2011 03:39 PM (7P7Ij)

147 They have a spare.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at May 13, 2011 03:39 PM (qIHlG)

148 Trinity or Girl in the Red Dress?

I'll take the red one.

Posted by: FUBAR at May 13, 2011 03:39 PM (1fanL)

149 This whole "internet" thing is just a fad.

Posted by: er at May 13, 2011 03:39 PM (+aMaK)

150 I'm more worried about all these companies that collect personal data and put it on the web for free. Because I deal with criminals, I'm very protective of my home address. However, it came up during a recent google search from a license I had over 25 years ago. I hate these fuckers. And there are so many of them.

Posted by: Tough US Immigration Policies at May 13, 2011 03:39 PM (x/4B/)

151 Personal computers have gotten so powerful that I feel compelled to participate in these distributed processing things.  Unless I'm running a couple of virtual machines and watching a movie at the same time, my processor barely gets off idle.

I've been folding proteins for a couple of years now.

Posted by: toby928™ at May 13, 2011 03:40 PM (GTbGH)

152 I'll take the red one.

Yep, She doesn't talk much.

Posted by: toby928™ at May 13, 2011 03:41 PM (GTbGH)

153 I've been folding proteins for a couple of years now.

Posted by: toby928™ at May 13, 2011 07:40 PM (GTbGH)

More visually pleasing than SETI@Home.

Posted by: FUBAR at May 13, 2011 03:41 PM (1fanL)

154 157 This whole "internet" thing is just a fad.

Posted by: er at May 13, 2011 07:39 PM (+aMaK)


Isn't it?!

Posted by: Dwight Schrute at May 13, 2011 03:42 PM (BP6Z1)

155 One of the single stupidest movie hacker gimmicks ever perpetrated had to be in "Independence Day." Because you just wouldn't even question some earthling hacker's cheesy laptop computer system being fully compatible with the technology of a freaking interstellar space-faring civilization.

No, no incompatibilities with hardware, with voltages or current, with freaking operating systems or syntax or machine language written by aliens thousands of years advanced over you or even if you have a fucking dongle that plugs into... hey, why would aliens even have plugs? And the weasel hacker can bring down an advanced alien vessel the size of Rhode Island in seconds with a virus he wrote because, I guess, aliens don't have anti-virus software.

Oh man, that was one stoooopid plot gimmick.

Posted by: George Orwell at May 13, 2011 07:25 PM (AZGON)

I don't know - its pretty much the gimmick in War of the Worlds, just electronic instead of biological.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 13, 2011 03:42 PM (z1N6a)

156 More visually pleasing than SETI@Home.

Indeed.  I should ask kratos if they really look like that.

Posted by: toby928™ at May 13, 2011 03:42 PM (GTbGH)

157 Just look at what Google is doing to Ann Althouse (Whether you love her or hate her or don't care).  Althouse2 dot blogspot dot com.

They treat you like garbage once you rely on their cloud.

Posted by: Dustin at May 13, 2011 03:43 PM (Q3nWV)

158 I don't know - its pretty much the gimmick in War of the Worlds, just electronic instead of biological.

I made those three-fingered fucks my bitch.

Posted by: Our Air at May 13, 2011 03:43 PM (FYCiJ)

159 164 An actual virus is more believable however.It's ability to mutate quickly makes it very difficult to defend against.I could conceive of the aliens thinking they were covered against biologicals and than getting caught unaware by a mutation.

Posted by: steevy at May 13, 2011 03:44 PM (MLyR6)

160 I don't think the White Rabbit Girl got enough love.  She was smokin'.

Posted by: FUBAR at May 13, 2011 03:44 PM (1fanL)

161 its pretty much the gimmick in War of the Worlds, just electronic instead of biological. Much easier to believe susceptibility to biological contamination between lifeforms, if you postulate they have similar biochemistry. But even then, it's a stretch. You can't give your dog a cold, or vice versa.

Posted by: George Orwell at May 13, 2011 03:45 PM (AZGON)

162

Being conformed to the machine is, sadly, a real thing.  Last Christmas I was in an under-developed part of a tropical island nation, and at first did NOT like the feeling of having no internet access.  When I was finally able to tap a relative's service it was a feeling of relief. 

However, after a few more days I realized how little I need computerization.  It's a really nice tool, but that's all it is.  I then saw that what one really needs is sunshine, ice, vodka, tonic, and rice-and-beans.  Interacting with real, live human beings (other than co-workers and libtards) has a certain charm after all. 

Posted by: Reactionary at May 13, 2011 03:45 PM (4nbyM)

163 54 Access Denied.

OVERRIDE!

Access Granted.


Hey! How did you know my password for everything? I used to use "password" but I got clever and changed it. Posted by: George Orwell at May 13, 2011 07:11 PM

George Orwell's security code is 1-6-3-0-9 ...

Posted by: Captain Spock at May 13, 2011 03:45 PM (vdfwz)

164 I've been folding proteins for a couple of years now.

That is actually very biologically relevant to figure out - how proteins fold into their tertiary and quaternary structures is still considered a black-box process. 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at May 13, 2011 03:45 PM (c0A3e)

165 167 Someone did an interesting book based on the idea that that could NOT have been more than an expiditionary force or recon.That even a dying high tech enemy could scrape up more forces.So,all it did was buy time until the main force landed.

Posted by: steevy at May 13, 2011 03:46 PM (MLyR6)

166 "
No, no incompatibilities with hardware, with voltages or current, with freaking operating systems or syntax or machine language written by aliens thousands of years advanced over you or even if you have a fucking dongle that plugs into... hey, why would aliens even have plugs? And the weasel hacker can bring down an advanced alien vessel the size of Rhode Island in seconds with a virus he wrote because, I guess, aliens don't have anti-virus software. "

It was particularly amusing that he would be able to write an effective virus in just a few hours.  He learned their language, their systems, their security, and wrote the virus in hours.

That would be hard to believe if it was Windows 8, let alone a completely independent of humans developed system.

A non idiot version of that movie would have had this character working for Area 51 for a decade, playing with the alien computer on the spaceship all that time, slowly learning how it works, and realizing there is a flaw in their code because they just didn't think like we do.

It would still be a good reference to War of the Worlds for modern times.

Posted by: Dustin at May 13, 2011 03:47 PM (Q3nWV)

167 176 Yeah,your idea is a good one.

Posted by: steevy at May 13, 2011 03:48 PM (MLyR6)

168

Trust Google? Why not? Because when I trust Google after a few Dos Equus beers, it just spreads the legend of my personality,

Stay thirsty, my friends.  And trust Google. But mostly stay thirsty.

Posted by: The most interesting man at AoSHQ at May 13, 2011 03:48 PM (sJTmU)

169 Identify for retina scan.

Posted by: Federation Cloud Computing Network Storing the Project Genesis Tape at May 13, 2011 03:49 PM (FYCiJ)

170 George Orwell's security code is 1-6-3-0-9 ... Knock it off, pointy-ears. I saved Starfleet ass and the entire galaxy from Aldebaran to Zeta Prime with that trick. Meanwhile you had to go get a third degree suntan playing nuclear hero in the engine room. I had to do a whole new movie to rescue you from that cock-up.

Posted by: James Tiberius Kirk at May 13, 2011 03:49 PM (AZGON)

171 A non idiot version of that movie would have had this character working for Area 51 for a decade, playing with the alien computer on the spaceship all that time, slowly learning how it works, and realizing there is a flaw in their code because they just didn't think like we do.

So, you're saying that Hippie Cmdr Data should have cracked it, rather than being strangled and used as a ventriloquist's dummy.

Posted by: toby928™ at May 13, 2011 03:49 PM (GTbGH)

172 169 I don't think the White Rabbit Girl got enough love.  She was smokin'.

Posted by: FUBAR at May 13, 2011 07:44 PM (1fanL)


Hey Handsome!

Posted by: Grace Slick at May 13, 2011 03:49 PM (BP6Z1)

173

I'm pretty sure that we're much the same as most other people.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 13, 2011 07:33 PM (7YzRS)

Probably. I know lefty's whose playlists are social statements.

They'll have albums from obscure, shitty, socially aware "artists" that they never listen to but have on their iPod just in case someone asks about whether ot not the're listening to Common right now.

Me, I just rediscovered Ropin' the Wind, maybe one of the greatest albums ever.

Posted by: ErikW at May 13, 2011 03:49 PM (P60UN)

174 HA HA, bitches!  This is why I invented the internet.

Posted by: Al Gore at May 13, 2011 03:50 PM (4HYWk)

175 175 167 Someone did an interesting book based on the idea that that could NOT have been more than an expiditionary force or recon.That even a dying high tech enemy could scrape up more forces.So,all it did was buy time until the main force landed.

Using native bacteria as a weapon against an invading alien force was handled better in V (I'm thinking of the early 1980's miniseries) than in War of the Worlds. 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at May 13, 2011 03:50 PM (c0A3e)

176 Someone did an interesting book based on the idea that that could NOT have been more than an expiditionary force or recon.That even a dying high tech enemy could scrape up more forces.So,all it did was buy time until the main force landed.

Posted by: steevy at May 13, 2011 07:46 PM (MLyR6)

There was also a sequel by another author where Edison and  a bunch other scientists invent some electric spacecraft, invade Mars, and use the canals to drown the entire planet.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 13, 2011 03:50 PM (z1N6a)

177

That is actually very biologically relevant to figure out - how proteins fold into their tertiary and quaternary structures is still considered a black-box process. 

Our Lawyers will be contacting you.

Posted by: Los Angeles NAACP Office at May 13, 2011 03:50 PM (o92B0)

178
 Interacting with real, live human beings




Your ideas confuse and frighten me.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 13, 2011 03:50 PM (7YzRS)

179 Does Blogspot have a competitor?

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at May 13, 2011 03:51 PM (qIHlG)

180 Meanwhile you had to go get a third degree suntan playing nuclear hero in the engine room. I had to do a whole new movie to rescue you from that cock-up.

Don't even get ME started!

Posted by: Dr. Leonard McCoy at May 13, 2011 03:52 PM (FYCiJ)

181 Using native bacteria as a weapon against an invading alien force was handled better in V (I'm thinking of the early 1980's miniseries) than in War of the Worlds. 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at May 13, 2011 07:50 PM (c0A3e)

Well, in WoW it was accidental, unless you are using 'using' referring to the author, rather than the protagonists.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 13, 2011 03:52 PM (z1N6a)

182

Insidiously -- without many noticing or taking stock of the situation, because it just happens step by step and it's so convenient to just go with it -- the Machine is adapting our psychology to better interface with us.

Notice also the subtlety of it, which I believe is the real secret to its success. Any large-scale "guidance" must, of necessity, depend upon it. How else to "nudge" people?

Some note the morally important need to "win hearts and minds." If we have that capability, what's to prevent its use here as well? IMHO, the media is attempting a weak effort to do this as they did in '08 with The Vapid One®. Their distortion of the truth was/is so blatently evident to anyone with two functioning neurons to rub together as to be almost comical, weren't the stakes so high.

We see these insidious things happening and those who benefit from, or gain power from, whatever they're doing have the psychologic gall to call anyone wrong (or worse) who disagrees with whatever they're doing. Their motives are always as pure as the driven snow.

To them.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at May 13, 2011 03:52 PM (d0Tfm)

183

There was also a sequel by another author where Edison and  a bunch other scientists invent some electric spacecraft, invade Mars, and use the canals to drown the entire planet.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 13, 2011 07:50 PM (z1N6a)

Doesn't mars have Eurpean electric recepticles though?

Posted by: robtr at May 13, 2011 03:52 PM (MtwBb)

184 I've got over 3000+ record albums and a great turntable. Most of my CDs are retreads of albums wore down to the nub. Who needs ipods to carry the music when it's all in your head. Google be damned.

Posted by: lurker at May 13, 2011 03:52 PM (SSiGe)

185 Is it just me, or was Data three times cubed the pain in the ass Spock was? Sheesh, he was a fucking machine and if I were in command of that sack of chips and fiber optics, I would have had him recycled into solid waste disintegrators. The prick wouldn't even get a proper skin dye. Always looked like he had jaundice, and there wasn't a speck of liver in his body.

Posted by: James Tiberius Kirk at May 13, 2011 03:53 PM (AZGON)

186

Posted by: Los Angeles NAACP Office at May 13, 2011 07:50 PM (o92B0)

Black Holes! 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at May 13, 2011 03:53 PM (c0A3e)

187 One of the single stupidest movie hacker gimmicks ever perpetrated had to be in "Independence Day." Because you just wouldn't even question some earthling hacker's cheesy laptop computer system being fully compatible with the technology of a freaking interstellar space-faring civilization.
---
I thought they were implying that recovered alien technology had led to the US computer industry, and Apple specifically. Though it didn't make much sense as the ship was deactivated until the attack.


Posted by: Methos at May 13, 2011 03:53 PM (uqJo6)

188 Does Blogspot have a competitor?

Posted by: FlaviusJulius

 

Blogfido?  Just guessin' here.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at May 13, 2011 03:54 PM (sJTmU)

189

Doesn't mars have Eurpean electric recepticles though?

Posted by: robtr at May 13, 2011 07:52 PM (MtwBb)

That's why we drowned them.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 13, 2011 03:54 PM (z1N6a)

190 180 George Orwell's security code is 1-6-3-0-9 ...

Knock it off, pointy-ears. I saved Starfleet ass and the entire galaxy from Aldebaran to Zeta Prime with that trick. Meanwhile you had to go get a third degree suntan playing nuclear hero in the engine room. I had to do a whole new movie to rescue you from that cock-up. Posted by: James Tiberius Kirk at May 13, 2011 07:49 PM

Admiral Kirk's true suit size is 44 large, he downloads ABBA, and prefers latex over leather

Posted by: Captain Spock accessing Google Cloud at May 13, 2011 03:54 PM (vdfwz)

191 There was also a sequel by another author where Edison and a bunch other scientists invent some electric spacecraft, invade Mars, and use the canals to drown the entire planet. I think that was Garrett P. Serviss's "Edison's Conquest of Mars."

Posted by: George Orwell at May 13, 2011 03:55 PM (AZGON)

192 gooooooooooooooooooooooooood

Posted by: ÝÓÇÊíä - ÞÕÇÊ - ÊÓÑíÍÇÊ - ÃÒíÇÁ - ÓåÑå - ãæÖå 2012 at May 13, 2011 03:55 PM (UREh6)

193 195 Is it just me, or was Data three times cubed the pain in the ass Spock was? Sheesh, he was a fucking machine and if I were in command of that sack of chips and fiber optics, I would have had him recycled into solid waste disintegrators.

And he had sex with the Borg Queen, ewwww!  That alone would have earned Data a one-way ticket out of the nearest air lock. 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at May 13, 2011 03:56 PM (c0A3e)

194 Edison is dead.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at May 13, 2011 03:56 PM (qIHlG)

195 Is it just me, or was Data three times cubed the pain in the ass Spock was?

Dude, I am programmed in multiple techniques. A broad variety of pleasuring.

Posted by: Ladies Love Cool D at May 13, 2011 03:56 PM (GTbGH)

196

The idea of cloud computing is that all your files are stored in one place so you can access them from anywhere any time on any device. Plus guaranteed backups and redundancy so in theory the cloud is never down.

Now, just because I understand why cloud computing is supposed to be the hottest thing since sliced bread, that doesn't mean that I think it is a great idea and you won't catch me storing any of my stuff in the "cloud"

I've worked around computers, and especially servers, far too long to trust them. And, once they have you convinced to store your data there they'll start charging more. Plus, with Google and Apple too you need to watch out for how they plan to monetize the service.

Information may want to be free, but Google and Apple are going to ensure you pay for it in the end.

Posted by: ParanoidWorkingGirlinSeattle at May 13, 2011 03:56 PM (RZ8pf)

197 A non idiot version of that movie would have had this character working for Area 51 for a decade, playing with the alien computer on the spaceship all that time, slowly learning how it works, and realizing there is a flaw in their code because they just didn't think like we do.

Posted by: Dustin at May 13, 2011 07:47 PM (Q3nWV)

And it would have taken no real extra effort to film it that way. Just have Goldblum leaning over the shoulder of a tech at the lab talking about something they've been working on based on the ship's computer over the last ten years of study, and boom, instantly a plausible explanation.

But given a choice between plausible and stupid, Hollywood goes with stupid.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 13, 2011 03:56 PM (bxiXv)

198 I thought they were implying that recovered alien technology had led to the US computer industry, and Apple specifically. STEVE JOBS IS A SPACE JOOO HOARDING MARTIAN GOLD!!!

Posted by: THE CAPS LOCK BUTTON at May 13, 2011 03:57 PM (AZGON)

199 Only half of comments reload.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at May 13, 2011 03:57 PM (qIHlG)

200

I've got over 3000+ record albums and a great turntable

 

I went Vinyl shopping today...nothing like an actual record. 

Posted by: garrett at May 13, 2011 03:57 PM (o92B0)

201

Isn't Skynet an anagram of "Google and Apple"?

Wait, that's not right.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at May 13, 2011 03:58 PM (sJTmU)

202 195 Is it just me, or was Data three times cubed the pain in the ass Spock was? Sheesh, he was a fucking machine and if I were in command of that sack of chips and fiber optics, I would have had him recycled into solid waste disintegrators.

The prick wouldn't even get a proper skin dye. Always looked like he had jaundice, and there wasn't a speck of liver in his body.

Data?  Data from The Next Generation?!  Are you talking about that massive Frisbee-shaped clusterfuck that took our old ship's name and has a bridge that looks like the lobby of the Regulus Marriott?  Yeah, I was there.  Saw her off when she was launched.  Let me tell you, I was laughing my ass off inside the entire time.  Just wait'll you baby-face fuckers find out what kind of horrors you're going to have to deal with out there.  IN FUCKING SPACE.

Really, the opportunity for a little schadenfreude was about the only thing that could have dragged my 137-year-old ass off the porch.  I'm OLD, God damn it.  I've DONE this shit and DEALT with these fucking parodies of nature with weird shit on their foreheads and CURED stuff like Rigellian fever and Antarean clap and even put Spock's fucking BRAIN back in his frog-green head.  I even FOUND A CURE FOR DEATH, for Christ's sweet fucking sake.  How many other ship's doctors did THAT?  The fucking quack on the Exeter couldn't even keep his crew from turning into exploded packets of FUCKING SWEET 'N LOW in orbit of a planet where everyone else lives to six thousand and here I am in a cramped sickbay unlocking the secrets of Life itself.  Yeah, motherfuckers, you better fucking BELIEVE I deserved a promotion to Admiral.

Anyway, where was I?  Oh yeah, the "Enterprise-D" or whatever they called it.  (Real fucking cute.)  I had some sickly-looking fucking robot who kept blathering on about how he wanted to fuck the tactical officer escorting me around all day.  He was a joke; the ship was a joke; the entire fucking crew of Spandex-wearing shitheads were a joke.  The men wore miniskirts, for the love of shit.  What was that all about?  In my day we kept the WOMEN in miniskirts manning the switchboards and doing the laundry.  Those were the good old days, I tell ya, before all this touchy-feely metrosexual ratshit infected the service.... oh fuck where was I ANYWAY Astroboy showed me the hotel-lobby bridge, that sucked; I met the new ship's doctor and her bitch-ass genius kid and wanted to kill myself right there; I even ran into Captain Baldo and told him in no uncertain terms that his effete French faggot ass had better GET ITS SHIT TOGETHER AND DO SOMETHING about this sad joke of a ship before he got everyone under his command killed.  This isn't a fucking pleasure cruise to Alpha Centauri, I told the frog; you may think you can run around in these painted-on uniforms with your cock hanging out on this shitfuck of a vessel that looks like a 1980s Kenmore appliance ad but you're going out into DEEP FUCKING SPACE, FRENCHIE, and it's not PLEASANT out there.  All your fucking around is going to get everyone KILLED.

I don't know if fucking Frogboy heard me; he just wandered back into his Ready Room to ruminate over a cup of fucking tea, if you can believe it.  Yeah, I figured, this ship is definitely fucked.  So I let C-3PO drag me back down to the airlock, but before I disembarked he showed me this weird fucking thing he called the "holo-deck".  Tell it what I want to see, the droid said, and it'll appear right there in the room as some kind of hollergramwhateverthefuck.  Okay you fucking blasted machine, I said, I'LL TELL THIS FUCKING SHIP what I want to see, and lo and behold when the doors opened there was Chapel, 27 years old, tits even bigger than I remember them and wearing nothing but a giant shit-eating smile and the cuffs that were pinning her ankles behind her ears.

So I pulled rank and told Talky Toaster to go pound sand, and my flight back to Georgia was delayed.  Several years later I heard they blew the whole thing up by letting the God damned woman psychiatrist drive the fucking thing right into a planet, which is about the way I expected that tin can to go.  A shame about the holo-thing though.

Posted by: Dr. Leonard McCoy at May 13, 2011 03:58 PM (FYCiJ)

203 Dude, I am programmed in multiple techniques. A broad variety of pleasuring.

Posted by: Ladies Love Cool D at May 13, 2011 07:56 PM (GTbGH)

+1,000

Posted by: Spiner Femmes at May 13, 2011 03:58 PM (BP6Z1)

204 Does Blogspot have a competitor?

*cough*

Posted by: minx.cc at May 13, 2011 03:58 PM (GTbGH)

205 Don't forget to read the User Agreement!

Posted by: HUMANCENTiPAD at May 13, 2011 03:58 PM (Y1DZt)

206 Admiral Kirk's true suit size is 44 large, he downloads ABBA, and prefers latex over leather Well, is there something wrong with that? Don't be so judgmental. Even your Senator McCain liked ABBA.

Posted by: James Tiberius Kirk at May 13, 2011 03:59 PM (AZGON)

207 I thought they were implying that recovered alien technology had led to the US computer industry, and Apple specifically. Though it didn't make much sense as the ship was deactivated until the attack.


Posted by: Methos at May 13, 2011 07:53 PM (uqJo6)

 

It wasn't deactivated-deactivated.

Posted by: Soona at May 13, 2011 03:59 PM (4HYWk)

208

Everything at your fingertips in something like a Samsung Galaxy tab size is pretty cool, but it will cut into interpersonal time too. For the workaholic, more multitasking, less talking or meeting people.

Posted by: lauren at May 13, 2011 03:59 PM (ibCFU)

209 214 I meant one that occasionally works.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at May 13, 2011 03:59 PM (qIHlG)

210 I've got over 3000+ record albums and a great turntable. Most of my CDs are retreads of albums wore down to the nub. Who needs ipods to carry the music when it's all in your head. Google be damned.

Posted by: lurker at May 13, 2011 07:52 PM (SSiGe)

Or, learn to play an instrument and find a local band that shares your musical interests to play with. Even if you're only playing a triangle or vibraslap (ayup!)

I play guitar and have played with church groups and garage bands. I've never made any money doing it but it's a blast, even if you suck like I do!

Posted by: ErikW at May 13, 2011 04:00 PM (P60UN)

211 minx cc home is a blank page.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at May 13, 2011 04:01 PM (qIHlG)

212 195 Is it just me, or was Data three times cubed the pain in the ass Spock was? Sheesh, he was a fucking machine and if I were in command of that sack of chips and fiber optics, I would have had him recycled into solid waste disintegrators.

The prick wouldn't even get a proper skin dye. Always looked like he had jaundice, and there wasn't a speck of liver in his body. Posted by: James Tiberius Kirk at May 13, 2011 07:53 PM

Picard had him programmed and designed for plausible deniability. One "make it so" from Baldy eu Frog and Gordi wiped clean those "contemplative sessions" in Chrome Dome's quarters.

Wesley on the other hand needed a lot more incentive to keep his yap shut ..

Posted by: Guinan the Gossip Girl at May 13, 2011 04:01 PM (vdfwz)

213 195 Is it just me, or was Data three times cubed the pain in the ass Spock was?

Posted by: James Tiberius Kirk at May 13, 2011 07:53 PM (AZGON)

Oh, God, it was a one-episode gimmick spread over seven seasons and, what, 4-5 movies?

The Most Learning-disabled Artificial Lifeform 12 years running...

"Well, Data, that's the third time you've hijacked the ship and killed several people. If this keeps up, you're going to be grounded for a whole week, young man!"

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 13, 2011 04:02 PM (bxiXv)

214 But given a choice between plausible and stupid, Hollywood goes with stupid.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 13, 2011 07:56 PM (bxiXv)

If you want to enjoy modern cinema, your only option is to turn off your brain and just go with it.   Those Hollywood fools wouldn't recognize a good story if it kicked them in the balls.  A few times, once in a great while, they have taken good stories, made faithful movies, and earned bazillions of dollars.  Take the Lord of the Rings movies as an example.  There have been a few others here and there - flukes.  They never figure out why those movies worked.  They never get why a good story IS a good story.  There are a million great books out there, crossing all genres, that would make fine movies.  Yet those stories remain undiscovered except by readers.

 

Posted by: Reactionary at May 13, 2011 04:02 PM (4nbyM)

215 From the sidebar:  Disney Trademarks “Seal Team 6″


WTF™ ?

Posted by: toby928™ at May 13, 2011 04:02 PM (GTbGH)

216 Posted by: Dr. Leonard McCoy at May 13, 2011 07:58 PM (FYCiJ) You had me at " a bridge that looks like the lobby of the Regulus Marriott."

Posted by: James Tiberius Kirk at May 13, 2011 04:02 PM (AZGON)

217
Or, learn to play an instrument and find a local band that shares your musical interests to play with.





Except that you have to deal with.........musicians.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 13, 2011 04:02 PM (7YzRS)

218 Heh, the Sun News Network is calling Osama Bin Laden "Toad in the Hole."

Posted by: logprof at May 13, 2011 04:03 PM (BP6Z1)

219
Baldy eu Frog



I LOL'd. Bravo.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 13, 2011 04:04 PM (7YzRS)

220 Is it just me, or was Data three times cubed the pain in the ass Spock was?
At least he never turned me into a fucking cube.

Posted by: Crewman Greene at May 13, 2011 04:05 PM (Y1DZt)

221 Yeah, now that I think about it... the logbook of the Enterprise-D was probably titled "Guest Registration."

Posted by: James Tiberius Kirk at May 13, 2011 04:05 PM (AZGON)

222 Here's that cloud service for music i mentioned earlier if anyone's interested, 10gb free, gotta pony up some  $ if you want more.

Posted by: booger at May 13, 2011 04:05 PM (9RFH1)

223 Posted by: Dr. Leonard McCoy at May 13, 2011 07:58 PM (FYCiJ)

That was ten kinds of awesome

Posted by: Methos at May 13, 2011 04:06 PM (uqJo6)

224 Except that you have to deal with.........musicians.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 13, 2011 08:02 PM (7YzRS)

 

That's why I love playing country. Everybody is drankin' and no one gives a shit if you miss a note or chord.

Well, mostly.

Posted by: ErikW at May 13, 2011 04:06 PM (P60UN)

225 Several years later I heard they blew the whole thing up by letting the God damned woman psychiatrist drive the fucking thing right into a planet She tried to do that once a month.

Posted by: James Tiberius Kirk at May 13, 2011 04:07 PM (AZGON)

226 Or, learn to play an instrument and find a local band
ErikW at May 13, 2011 08:00 PM (P60UN)

Cornet in the civic band--jazz, dixieland, American Standards, also Sousa and the like. Popular small town favorites. Good times. Guitar since I was kid, just for my own amusement.

Posted by: lurker at May 13, 2011 04:07 PM (SSiGe)

227

@212 - epic...

 

Posted by: Reactionary at May 13, 2011 04:08 PM (4nbyM)

228 If you run out of proteins to fold, let me know. I got a whole bunch saved up in a jar that I can mail - no charge.

Posted by: John Ensign at May 13, 2011 04:08 PM (+lsX1)

229 Posted by: Dr. Leonard McCoy at May 13, 2011 07:58 PM (FYCiJ) Mind if I crosspost that at memoirsofastarshipcaptain dot blogspot dot com?

Posted by: James Tiberius Kirk at May 13, 2011 04:09 PM (AZGON)

230 I think that was Garrett P. Serviss's "Edison's Conquest of Mars."

Posted by: George Orwell at May 13, 2011 07:55 PM (AZGON)

Sounds like it - a real ripsnorter.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 13, 2011 04:09 PM (z1N6a)

231

My favorite thing about Google is their company motto "Don't be evil" 

Assholes. Douche bags. Etc.  

Posted by: ParanoidWorkingGirlinSeattle at May 13, 2011 04:09 PM (RZ8pf)

232 Google was always evil. It's more so today.

All the "free" benefits/tools you use from them require you to give up quite a bit. The actual street price is pretty hard to gauge, but it is costing you. What price liberty/freedom/privacy?

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at May 13, 2011 04:10 PM (DAEhL)

233

"Well, Data, that's the third time you've hijacked the ship and killed several people. If this keeps up, you're going to be grounded for a whole week, young man!"

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 13, 2011 08:02 PM (bxiXv)

That sounds more like Westley Crusher.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 13, 2011 04:10 PM (z1N6a)

234 My favorite thing about Google is their company motto "Don't be evil" Perhaps it is merely a typo. It could be "Don't see evil."

Posted by: George Orwell at May 13, 2011 04:11 PM (AZGON)

235

I don't know - its pretty much the gimmick in War of the Worlds, just electronic instead of biological.

Yeah, right. The Martians are so advanced that they plant spaceships here thousands or millions of years ago; they go and develop a transport system where they ride lightning bolts to man the ships and have force fields that deflect all our weaponry and ray guns that vaporize people...but they forgot to invent nasal decongestant?

Posted by: LGoPs at May 13, 2011 04:11 PM (+Uv5V)

236 Mind if I crosspost that at memoirsofastarshipcaptain dot blogspot dot com?

Damn it, Jim,  I'm a DOCTOR!  I don't have TIME for this navel-gazing shit!

Yeah, go for it.

Posted by: Dr. Leonard McCoy at May 13, 2011 04:12 PM (FYCiJ)

237 ...but they forgot to invent nasal decongestant? Well, maybe they had socialized medicine on Mars and medical science died out. No, that would not be politically correct for a Hollywood product. I'm stumped.

Posted by: George Orwell at May 13, 2011 04:13 PM (AZGON)

238 Cornet in the civic band--jazz, dixieland, American Standards, also Sousa and the like. Popular small town favorites. Good times. Guitar since I was kid, just for my own amusement.

Posted by: lurker at May 13, 2011 08:07 PM (SSiGe)

Nice! I played alto sax in junior high and high school but was disappointed (and maybe a bit disillusioned) that I couldn't be in orchestra as a sax player.

I was just getting good and didn't want to switch to violin at the time.

Funny enough, I sold the sax long ago but picked up a cheap student violin recently. I'd like to larn me some fiddlin'!

Posted by: ErikW at May 13, 2011 04:13 PM (P60UN)

239

That's why I love playing country. Everybody is drankin' and no one gives a shit if you miss a note or chord.

Well, mostly.




My music experience has all been playing guitar in rock bands. If you assume that all rock/pop musicians are douchebag fuckface unreliable drug-fiend alcoholic flakes.....you'll rarely be disappointed.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 13, 2011 04:16 PM (7YzRS)

240

Cornet in the civic band--jazz, dixieland, American Standards, also Sousa and the like. Popular small town favorites. Good times. Guitar since I was kid, just for my own amusement.

Bass, drums and percussion here. Blues, which is just as forgiving for boo boos. The folks I play with really don't care if everything sounds perfect or not, sometimes raw is good. We always smile at the end of a gig.

And while we're on the subject, did you hear about the guitar player who locked his keys in his car?

It took them two hours to get the drummer out.

*rimshot*

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at May 13, 2011 04:16 PM (d0Tfm)

241 Picard had him programmed and designed for plausible deniability. One "make it so" from Baldy eu Frog and Gordi wiped clean those "contemplative sessions" in Chrome Dome's quarters.

The Gallic captain was a good sport, and that's why I let him back talk me. What did you THINK "Q" stands for anyway

Posted by: Q at May 13, 2011 04:17 PM (vdfwz)

242

Yeah, right. The Martians are so advanced that they plant spaceships here thousands or millions of years ago; they go and develop a transport system where they ride lightning bolts to man the ships and have force fields that deflect all our weaponry and ray guns that vaporize people...but they forgot to invent nasal decongestant?

Posted by: LGoPs at May 13, 2011 08:11 PM (+Uv5V)

Well in the original, they fired them to earth shells fired from huge cannon.  I don't think they had shields - a couple of walkers were demolished by the ship "Thunder Child".  They did have range, and speed. 

Posted by: Oldcat at May 13, 2011 04:17 PM (z1N6a)

243 @246 I want to post your screed, but blogger.com is more hosed today than a ward room full of Captain Kirk's female yeomen.

Posted by: George Orwell at May 13, 2011 04:18 PM (AZGON)

244 And the weasel hacker can bring down an advanced alien vessel the size of Rhode Island in seconds with a virus he wrote because, I guess, aliens don't have anti-virus software.

Dude, he was using an Apple.  Clearly you Microsoft groupie dweebs have no clue as to the capabilities of a MacBook Pro.

Posted by: Apple fanboy at May 13, 2011 04:20 PM (TCyyS)

245

Data = The universe's most advanced vibrator.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at May 13, 2011 04:22 PM (d0Tfm)

246 Is the internet a series of tubes?

Posted by: Sharpster at May 13, 2011 04:23 PM (NPSC3)

247

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at May 13, 2011 08:22 PM (d0Tfm)

 

I'm sensing jealousy and shame.

Posted by: Counselor Deanna Troi at May 13, 2011 04:24 PM (o92B0)

248 I've been folding proteins for a couple of years now. Posted by: toby928™ at May 13, 2011 07:40 PM (GTbGH)<<< Me too. I was just re-watching that video of the chick who was fucking the Eiffel Tower and I folded enough protein to stock a GNC. If lightning would have hit that wad of Kleenex it would have created life.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 13, 2011 04:26 PM (LAfcH)

249

How many terabytes does the average person really need? Or can they even use?

Great prediction #1. "640 kilobytes of RAM should be more than enough for anyone."

Great prediction #2. "Climate Change is going to DOOOOM us."

See, I just keep getting smarter.  I even managed to score a homely-looking wife, despite the disadvantage of having the largest net worth on the planet at the time.  I didn't drop out of Harvard for nothing!

Posted by: Bill Gates at May 13, 2011 04:26 PM (thr9V)

250 Nice! I played alto sax in junior high and high school
ErikW at May 13, 2011 08:13 PM (P60UN)
Heh, started out on flute. Older brother played trumpet and I *so* didn't want to be a copy cat. Didn't last long. Went to a small school so we were always learning other instruments to fill in. Senior year played trumpet in the band, french horn in the orchestra, and trombone with the freshman band.

Posted by: lurker at May 13, 2011 04:26 PM (SSiGe)

251 So when exactly does Google become self-aware?

Posted by: LGoPs at May 13, 2011 04:27 PM (+Uv5V)

252 There, the comment at 212 deserved its own special guest post.  McCoy is almost as much of a stentorian windbag as I am.  But I have four stripes and get to pork the female middies, so I'm not jealous.


Posted by: James Tiberius Kirk at May 13, 2011 04:28 PM (AZGON)

253 My music experience has all been playing guitar in rock bands. If you assume that all rock/pop musicians are douchebag fuckface unreliable drug-fiend alcoholic flakes.....you'll rarely be disappointed.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 13, 2011 08:16 PM (7YzRS)

It happens in church too.

Posted by: ErikW at May 13, 2011 04:30 PM (P60UN)

254 If lightning would have hit that wad of Kleenex it would have created life. You just gave me a smashing idea.

Posted by: Mary Wollstonecraft Shelly at May 13, 2011 04:31 PM (AZGON)

255 I don't understand who Google hopes to sell these turds to.  The MSRP is higher than a lot of better products that aren't just a web browser.  Or then there is their plan to rent them.  $20/mo for a min contract of 36 months?  Do the math guys, you would get a beter deal at Rent-a-Center.  Or the $23/mo for the 3G version.  Yea right, read the fine print.  That gets ya 100MB/mo and the ability to buy cards for more airtime.  Fail.

The real crazy part is that these are supposed to just run a browser yet they partnered with Intel and stuffed x86 chips in that jack up the battery by at least double to power that pig.  Had they been selling ARM laptops at least they could offer runtime/weights that wouldn't be available in a normal laptop.  But they didn't so who cares about the hardware?  At the prices they are selling them at I'd even bet the Microsoft Tax is even embedded in there.

But the real killer is they can't explain to a prospective buyer what they would get from one of these vs just installing Chrome and using the exact same Google apps on a typical laptop running Linux, OS X or Windows.  And the real laptop is less expensive.  Worse still Chrome OS is Open Source so if there is actually any uptake every laptop will simply offer a dual boot option.

Posted by: John Morris at May 13, 2011 04:32 PM (41hR3)

256

266 I don't understand who Google hopes to sell these turds to.

Democrats?

Posted by: sherlock at May 13, 2011 04:34 PM (thr9V)

257 253 @246

I want to post your screed, but blogger.com is more hosed today than a ward room full of Captain Kirk's female yeomen. Posted by: George Orwell at May 13, 2011 08:18 PM

I'll give it a shot

Posted by: kbdabear at May 13, 2011 04:34 PM (vdfwz)

258 The MSRP is higher than a lot of better products that aren't just a web browser. Or then there is their plan to rent them. $20/mo for a min contract of 36 months? Do the math guys, you would get a beter deal at Rent-a-Center. Or the $23/mo for the 3G version. Yea right, read the fine print. That gets ya 100MB/mo and the ability to buy cards for more airtime. Maybe they could call it the Zune cloudtop.

Posted by: George Orwell at May 13, 2011 04:34 PM (AZGON)

259 Just got it up, kdbabear, thx

Posted by: George Orwell at May 13, 2011 04:35 PM (AZGON)

260

And just for the hell of it, I'll be watching Hank Jr's Country Boy Can Survive on YouTube till I get tired of it.

It was the first song I learned in Dropped D.

Posted by: ErikW at May 13, 2011 04:35 PM (P60UN)

261

My Dear Ms. Mary Wollstonecraft Shelly,

That there's pretty damn funny.  But there is a way to create life that's even more fun, sweetie-pie.

Posted by: sherlock at May 13, 2011 04:38 PM (thr9V)

262 I cannot understand why people would use gmail for sensitive business communications. Are you out of your fucking minds? I'd buy my own server before I surrendered my business or personal info to these cocksmokes. Cloud computing - it's like Apple. For technophobes and chicks. "But it's so easy! It just works!" Yeah, and after a while, you don't notice the finger in your ass, either. Wow! You'll geotag the videos I posted to YouPorn of me jacking it to Chitty Chitty Bang Bang? First of all, I thought it was porn, and my pants were already off and the video store would have been closed by the time I got there. I don't see why we have to involve the authorities. Their CEO TOLD you that if you trusted them, then you're a dumbfuck. So now they're launching Dumbfuck Online. It will be interesting to see who signs up for this.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 13, 2011 04:46 PM (LAfcH)

263 Google- Working overtime just to make MicroSoft look warm and fuzzy.

Posted by: TheGarbone at May 13, 2011 04:47 PM (KUjSN)

264 Somebody here, I think, once posted a link to a search anonymizer. Anyone have that AND know how to alter Safari to use it in the search bar?

Posted by: t-bird at May 13, 2011 04:48 PM (FcR7P)

265 Buy a cheap netbook, or cheap laptop, and be done with it. Put some flavor of Linux on it (Just avoid Ubuntu > 10.X) and you're good to go.

Cheaper, sometimes a lot cheaper than Ipads or Chromebooks.  Always on. Flash no problem. Lots of apps (free in Linux, you can always dual-boot). Good to go.

LibreOffice is pretty decent (fork of OpenOffice, more development, better). Add the AltSearch macro (regular expressions) and you're pretty complete. Abiword for short/fast docs, LibreOffice for big icky complex ones, good to go. You can even back up regularly with an external HD and googling rsynch. Its not that hard. If you can bake a cake you can follow 1-2-3 directions.

Computers are just a tool. Not a means to themselves.

Posted by: whiskey at May 13, 2011 04:53 PM (L03mw)

266 I use StartingPage. It works just fine. They actually give a shit about privacy.

Posted by: TheJane at May 13, 2011 04:56 PM (Km/Pn)

267 Thanks Jane.

Posted by: t-bird at May 13, 2011 05:13 PM (FcR7P)

268
Back in the late '60s and early '70s, I remember people predicting that when home computing caught on we'd be using terminals and that the actual computing would be done elsewhere on giant mainframes that would store all our information. We seem to be headed back in that direction...


Posted by: Golem14 at May 13, 2011 05:15 PM (2X8VA)

269

Trust Google--AND the cloud? 

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

 

 

Posted by: Taxpayer at May 13, 2011 05:16 PM (NpmCe)

270 No "cloud" for me.

The electronic media or the computer programs I buy, I want in a location where I have a reasonable amount of control over them. That means in my computer where I am physically at, not some location somewhere else where I haven't the slightest idea who has access to what, and who's poking around where.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at May 13, 2011 05:36 PM (gvBdW)

271 Meh to Sneakers.  Maybe so, but...

This plus TSA plus the human-detecting "look through the walls" radar plus all the damn government cameras is the intro to Lacey's world as explained by David Drake.

Posted by: Troll Feeder at May 13, 2011 05:58 PM (v0ucl)

272 So they introduce a cloud-based computer system... on a day when their blog network crashed for over 36 hours. Stand back... I don't want to trample you when I rush out to buy this thing, you betcha...

Posted by: richard mcenroe at May 13, 2011 07:46 PM (qvify)

273 Cloud computing -- its all good....until it goes bad.

Of course the whole thing depends on code that's shiftable on the fly to any CPU type...which implies some sort of interpreted, universal format for binaries...which implies performance will suck greatly compared to native...and JIT compilation *should* be out of the question for security reasons.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at May 13, 2011 08:56 PM (QHW1m)

274 Of course the whole thing depends on code that's shiftable on the fly to any CPU type...which implies some sort of interpreted, universal format for binaries...

I'm picturing it more like X-Windows, so you only have to create a binary of the presentation space once for each instruction set, not like a java thing.

Posted by: toby928™ at May 14, 2011 05:08 AM (GTbGH)

275 And he had sex with the Borg Queen, ewwww!  That alone would have earned Data a one-way ticket out of the nearest air lock.

It was just a handjob.

Posted by: Dave at May 14, 2011 08:23 AM (NFxlU)

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