August 10, 2011

GOP Victory In Wisconsin Could Reverberate Around Country
— Ace

So headlines the Washington Times.

A stand by Wisconsin Republicans against a massive effort to oust them from power could reverberate across the country as the battle over union rights and the conservative revolution heads toward the 2012 presidential race.

But the left counts it as a win:

“The fact of the matter remains that, fighting on Republican turf, we have begun the work of stopping the Scott Walker agenda,” said state Democratic Party Chairman Mike Tate.

Phil Neuenfeldt, president of the Wisconsin State AFL-CIO, said voters sent a message that there is a growing movement to reclaim the middle class.

“Let’s be clear, anyway you slice it, this is an unprecedented victory,” he said.

Something to keep in mind: While they claim they were playing on Republican turf, that wasn't true in one of the districts, and the other district we lost regrettably featured an incumbent who had an affair with a 25 year old intern and then moved out of the district itself.

In addition, the left outspent us 2 to 1 on advertising, and the unions nationalized the elections, pushing hard for a coalition-of-government-dependent turnout.

They still lost. As "controversial" as Walker's program was, we only lost our two most vulnerable senators.

Next Tuesday we can try to win back one of the lost seats, as two Democrats, Wirch and Holperin, themselves stand for recall.

People say Holperin is vulnerable -- which he might be. This chart shows the vote in the various districts in the 2004 and 2008 elections.

In Holperin's district, Obama got 53% to McCain's 46%. But in 2004, Bush got 53% to Kerry's 46% (yes, an exact flip-flop).

So he's actually in a Bush district, and I can't believe his district is as Democratic as it seemed in 2008.

In addition, of course, they already lost, so there will likely be a fall-off in voter interest -- "Let's keep the score close, at least!" is not a rallying cry likely to motivate a team that's already lost.

Wirch's district is tougher, as it went for Kerry by 51%, but who knows. That's not a blow-out.

I also need to highlight this, which Drew posted last night: The Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel published an op-ed beginning...

Sky isn't falling

Gov. Scott Walker's so-called tools will help at least some local governments deal with cuts in state aid. Tough choices and pain remain, but give the governor some credit.

Aug. 9, 2011 |(81) COMMENTS

So it turns out that the sky isn't going to fall on all local governments in Wisconsin. The numbers now starting to come in show that Gov. Scott Walker's "tools" for local governments apparently will help at least some of them deal with cuts in state aid imposed by the state budget.

That's contrary to the expectation and the rhetoric of critics in the spring, and it's to Walker's credit. It bears out the governor's assessment of his budget-repair bill, although we still maintain he could have reached his goals without dealing a body blow to public employee unions.

Local government officials also need to keep in mind that not all governments will share equally - Milwaukee County is one example - and that tough choices remain. And state legislators should make adjustments in any follow-on budget-repair bill to make sure that any pain is fairly shared.

But the news is good for many. The latest example is Milwaukee, where the most recent estimates show the city with a net gain of at least $11 million for its 2012 budget. That will take a slice out of the city's structural deficit, which is created by costs rising faster than revenue, and will reduce cuts that Mayor Tom Barrett and the Common Council must impose.

Although this op-ed has yesterday's date, it actually will be published today, safely after the elections.

Apparently it was posted on-line at 6:20 PM, with polls almost closed, ensuring that the truth would not make an unexpected 11th hour Han Solo like appearance in the fight.

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1 first?

Posted by: Dick Nixon at August 10, 2011 07:43 AM (kaOJx)

2 Ahhh...nothing like a little libtard denial in the morning.  Suck it losers!

Posted by: EC at August 10, 2011 07:43 AM (GQ8sn)

3 It would be absolutely fucking awesome if WI booted both Dem state senators.  I'll mail pudding cups to the WI legislature if that happens.

Posted by: EC at August 10, 2011 07:45 AM (GQ8sn)

4 May all the left's victories be Pyrrhic.

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 10, 2011 07:45 AM (Hx5uv)

5 “Let’s be clear, anyway you slice it, this is an unprecedented victory,” he said.

This is a victory just like the reported "wooden cannon" that Mythbusters investigated several years ago: the story (for those unfamiliar) goes that some town had built a wooden cannon to defend itself.  When they loaded it up the first time, and fired it, it exploded killing the entire crew, plus several of the militia and other villagers.  The mayor looked on the bloody corpses of his people and said to the survivors: "If it killed this many of us, think what it must have done to the enemy!"

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at August 10, 2011 07:45 AM (8y9MW)

6

I say we drag the unions into fights in every friggin state. Make their coffers echo with the emptiness.

 

Wear them out. Watch them go flat broke.

Posted by: Clueless at August 10, 2011 07:46 AM (LyOUH)

7 LOL!  Crazy Ed Schultz (from Newsbusters):

The failure of the Democrats hadn't sunk in during Schultz's own 10 pm hour, as he asked Adam Green of the Progressive Change Campaign Committee:

SCHULTZ: What's the national lesson?

GREEN: That lesson is that Republicans who declare war on working families will be punished by voters.

Oops...



Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2011 07:47 AM (UOM48)

8 Lol: Jeb Bush endorses Huntsman! That ought to help...

Posted by: Lizbth at August 10, 2011 07:48 AM (JZBti)

9 The WI GOP really needs to win one of those seats to offset a squishy rino, Dale Schultz.

Posted by: Oldsailors poet at August 10, 2011 07:48 AM (ZDUD4)

10

  Phil Neuenfeldt, president of the Wisconsin State AFL-CIO, said voters sent a message that there is a growing movement to reclaim the middle class.

“Let’s be clear, anyway you slice it, this is an unprecedented victory,” he said.


Yes, a solid B Plus!

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 10, 2011 07:48 AM (kUaEF)

11
The ticks demanded more blood from the dog, and the dog said no.

Posted by: The Peasants at August 10, 2011 07:48 AM (GGEUV)

12 Posted by: WalrusRex at August 10, 2011 11:45 AM (Hx5uv)

This wasn't even a Pyrrhic victory.  At least he achieved his short-term objective.  This was (at best) a "moral" victory- which means a resounding defeat, but "it's not if you win or lose, but how you play the game."

As has been pointed out- the took back one historically Democrat district, and one district where the incumbent had basically fled so he could be with his mistress.  These are not exactly impressive pick-ups.  And all six of these were thought to be "the most vulnerable" Republicans.  If they can only take 1/3 of "the most vulnerable" what chance do they really have?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at August 10, 2011 07:48 AM (8y9MW)

13 Wait.  A candidate was boinking a twenty-five year old intern and lying about it and the Democrats still didn't vote for him?

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 10, 2011 07:48 AM (Hx5uv)

14 8 Lol: Jeb Bush endorses Huntsman! That ought to help...

That's Jeb's son.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2011 07:49 AM (UOM48)

15 Too bad Barky's Magical Bus Tour isn't going to Wisconsin.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2011 07:49 AM (UOM48)

16

$30 million down the pipe on a couple of State Senate races? Bet the unions will throw at least that much at Walker's recall attempt.

Gee, wonder if all that money is above board on the legal side.

Plus, how do you tell your members you shitted away $30 million and accomplished nothing?

Posted by: Dick Nixon at August 10, 2011 07:49 AM (kaOJx)

17 3 survived, huh? This state needs to shoot for 100% turnover. Both branches. Both parties. Wisconsin should do itself a favor and send its entire legislature and Scott Walker home. Your state is poorly-run, when it's running at all.

Posted by: Jordan at August 10, 2011 07:49 AM (4z6KA)

18 The timing of the UK riots, the US "social media" wildings (including the badly timed State Fair experience) and the earlier ugly Wisconsin demonstrations aren't helping Leftists convince actual taxpayers that they have any solutions besides violence.    

Posted by: ontherocks at August 10, 2011 07:49 AM (HBqDo)

19

In addition, the left outspent us 2 to 1 on advertising, and the unions nationalized the elections, pushing hard for a coalition-of-government-dependent turnout.

also Dem Union members were certainly Told to vote, and how to vote. still we prevailed .

another thing is that Enough cheese heads were paying attention to this skuffle to actually go vote to fight the dems machine. Doesn't it show voters are becoming aware  and perhaps refutiating the Dems economic premise?

Posted by: willow at August 10, 2011 07:50 AM (h+qn8)

20

“Let’s be clear, anyway you slice it, this is an unprecedented victory."

--Union Goon Boss

He's right. You don't see this type of victory every day.

Posted by: Soothsayer at August 10, 2011 07:50 AM (sqkOB)

21
Mission accomplished, says the union boss goon.

Any. Way. You. Slice. It.

Posted by: Soothsayer at August 10, 2011 07:51 AM (sqkOB)

22 Can we get a photo of this 25 year old intern? Of the news reports giving that detail, I haven't seen a picture. Providing a pic should be mandatory.

Posted by: Serious Cat at August 10, 2011 07:51 AM (KG3Vk)

23 Plus, how do you tell your members you shitted away $30 million and accomplished nothing? Since when did Unions give a shit about the members? Wasn't that around 1909-10 or something?

Posted by: Oldsailors poet at August 10, 2011 07:51 AM (ZDUD4)

24 “The fact of the matter remains that, fighting on Republican turf, we have begun the work of stopping the Scott Walker agenda,” said state Democratic Party Chairman Mike Tate.

Let me be clear.  There are no American tanks in Madison.

Posted by: Baghdad Bob at August 10, 2011 07:51 AM (GMG6W)

25 Walker fired first!

Posted by: I got nuthin at August 10, 2011 07:51 AM (GTbGH)

26 Not to sound like I dick but I really hope this doesn't spread throughout the entire country The Midwest sure but not everywhere

Posted by: Navycopjoe at August 10, 2011 07:51 AM (oay47)

27

He's right. You don't see this type of victory every day.

Posted by: Soothsayer at August 10, 2011 11:50 AM (sqkOB)

 

I see you've taken a marketing class or two.

Posted by: Clueless at August 10, 2011 07:52 AM (LyOUH)

28 OT, the GOP house picks for the super committee are Hensarling, Camp and Upton.  Senate are Kyl, Portman and Toomey.

Posted by: pep at August 10, 2011 07:53 AM (GMG6W)

29 Cheese Curds and Leinie's for ALL my guests!

Posted by: sconni Moron at August 10, 2011 07:53 AM (fbWxv)

30
Yesterday the market finished up 430 points!

Unprecedented victory for all investors.

Posted by: Soothsayer at August 10, 2011 07:54 AM (sqkOB)

31 29, MMMM Cheese curds. Deep fried or fresh and squeeky?

Posted by: Oldsailors poet at August 10, 2011 07:54 AM (ZDUD4)

32 Duh, already posted.

Posted by: pep at August 10, 2011 07:55 AM (GMG6W)

33 It'd be great to teabag those two fleebaggers next week

Posted by: joeindc44 at August 10, 2011 07:55 AM (QxSug)

34 This news made my day.

Posted by: observer at August 10, 2011 07:55 AM (FYmL9)

35 16 3 survived, huh? This state needs to shoot for 100% turnover. Both branches. Both parties. Wisconsin should do itself a favor and send its entire legislature and Scott Walker home. Your state is poorly-run, when it's running at all.

Posted by: Jordan at August 10, 2011 11:49 AM (4z6KA)


What?

Posted by: lowandslow at August 10, 2011 07:56 AM (GZitp)

36 Can we stop with the cheese references, I keep picturing bird cage barney.

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at August 10, 2011 07:56 AM (HFaiC)

37 Posted by: Jordan at August 10, 2011 11:49 AM (4z6KA)

Really?  Saving basically every city that's bothered to report millions of dollars (some of them able to turn deficits into surpluses) is "not working?"  Balancing the budget without increasing taxes is "not working?"

What, then, do you believe is "working?"  Driving the cities further into debt while confiscating as much wealth as possible from productive class?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at August 10, 2011 07:56 AM (8y9MW)

38

The collective progressive leftwingers are desperate to get the entire middle class on unionized welfare. Yeah- it will ruin our nation - but it makes them feel good and gives the left all sorts of corrupt power.

 

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at August 10, 2011 07:56 AM (0fzsA)

39 Wisconsin should do itself a favor and send its entire legislature and Scott Walker home. Posted by: Jordan at August 10, 2011 11:49 AM (4z6KA) Your concern is showing..

Posted by: Dave C at August 10, 2011 07:56 AM (C9VgD)

40 I seem to recall that since the new law was enacted making union dues contributions voluntary, collections have dropped 50-70%. With the unions dumping a boatload of cash on this recall effort, their cupboard may be close to empty.
 
Maybe they have used up their strike fund.

Posted by: GnuBreed at August 10, 2011 07:57 AM (ENKCw)

41

“Let’s be clear, anyway you slice it, this is an unprecedented victory,” he said.

The Hindenburg landing was an unprecedented aeronautical success.

The Six Day War was an unprecedented display of Arab military prowess.

Walter Mondale's win over Ronald Reagan was unprecedented.

The Miami Heat are unprecedented NBA champions.

 

Lefties, you are fundamentally misjudging the mood of the country.  Go ahead and double down again.  This is going to be fun.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 10, 2011 07:57 AM (B+qrE)

42 If they plan on overturning the Peoples vote every time they are piss'd at the results, how long will it take for them to run out of funds, and how long until the union workers see the writing on the wall and revolt on their pensions being piss'd away?

Posted by: willow at August 10, 2011 07:57 AM (h+qn8)

43 Ok this is way off thread but me and a friend of mine were talking about great speeches in movies and TV and I have seen you guys quote one on here from some sci fi tv show where some alien race was getting attacked or attacking us and they died in the billions but just kept coming. What was that show and speech? Sorry to thread jack oh the kos tears were sweet after the crushing in WI

Posted by: Mr. Pink at August 10, 2011 07:57 AM (JSKko)

44 I think the Unions should be billed for the cost of these recall elections

Posted by: nevergiveup at August 10, 2011 07:58 AM (i6RpT)

45
Give it up, Jordan/Justin/Jason/dunce.

Posted by: Soothsayer at August 10, 2011 07:58 AM (sqkOB)

46 As has been pointed out- the took back one historically Democrat district, and one district where the incumbent had basically fled so he could be with his mistress.  These are not exactly impressive pick-ups.  And all six of these were thought to be "the most vulnerable" Republicans.  If they can only take 1/3 of "the most vulnerable" what chance do they really have?

Especially with all that money and attention the Left threw into these recall elections - if they could only manage those paltry gains in a historically Dem state, well...draw your own conclusions. 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at August 10, 2011 07:58 AM (9hSKh)

47 Jordan seems very "concerned".

Posted by: Potato Bandit at August 10, 2011 07:58 AM (vj3id)

48 Stupid question, why are the elections on different days?

Posted by: alexthechick at August 10, 2011 07:59 AM (VtjlW)

49 Apparently it was posted on-line at 6:20 PM, with polls almost closed, ensuring that the truth would not make an unexpected 11th hour Han Solo like appearance in the fight.

True, but it comes out well in advance of the Democrat recalls- and just might energize the Republicans there.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at August 10, 2011 07:59 AM (8y9MW)

50 41. Thank you for not tossing in da bears or cubbies in that group *****glares at the Seattle morons******

Posted by: Navycopjoe at August 10, 2011 08:00 AM (oay47)

51 From Breitbart TV  (Hi, Andrew!  Do you need a wanna-be God of War on your payroll?  )

MSNBC Delivers Shameful Pep Rally Election Coverage

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at August 10, 2011 08:00 AM (9hSKh)

52 I wonder if Jordan has been voting Republican his entire adult life?

Posted by: Potato Bandit at August 10, 2011 08:00 AM (vj3id)

53
Jen Rubin in WaPo calls it a "smackdown."

Posted by: Soothsayer at August 10, 2011 08:00 AM (sqkOB)

54 Posted by: Mr. Pink at August 10, 2011 11:57 AM (JSKko)

I don't know, but I still love the Mimbari (sp?) speech to the commanders of Luna Base in Babylon 5 (when B5 was declaring it's independence)

"Only one human has faced the Mimbari battle fleet and survived.  He is behind me, you are in front of me.  Stand down."

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at August 10, 2011 08:01 AM (8y9MW)

55 Uh, that's Marxist code for "we're coming to take your stuff". By all means, give it a try, douchebag. I thought that when union thugs say "middle class" they really mean people who pay union dues.. They really could give a squat about the average non union middle class worker..

Posted by: Dave C at August 10, 2011 08:01 AM (C9VgD)

56 I have a stupid liberal friend on Facebook who posted a whining message yesterday about how horrible it was that they were going to keep attacking the "working man."

Today he replaced it with "The good news is 1 republican is against Walker's moves on collective bargaining, giving Senate dems a 17-16 edge in stopping anymore action in that area (not that there is really anything left to take away)"

I gloated a bit about the upcoming Dem recalls.

Posted by: Lauren at August 10, 2011 08:01 AM (Ws7wI)

57 we still maintain he could have reached his goals without dealing a body blow to public employee unions.

Typical liberal crap.  Sure, you conservatives may have achieved an actual benefit to the state and its citizens whereas we have nothing but catastrophic policy failures but we could've done that and given everybody an ice cream sundae.

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 10, 2011 08:02 AM (Hx5uv)

58 This is a tremendous victory for the oppressed line cooks of Wisconsin, who will now be able to cook what we want, intead of what the owner wants.

Posted by: Commander Thinbeard, Noodles Liberation Front at August 10, 2011 08:03 AM (lbo6/)

59 middle class non-union member= potential scab.

Posted by: willow at August 10, 2011 08:03 AM (h+qn8)

60 #46 - do you know what the cost was to the taxpayers of Wisconsin to pay for this recall election?

Posted by: fused at August 10, 2011 08:03 AM (P34gz)

61 Another factor in next week's Democrat recalls might be Democrat voter enthusiasm vs. Republican voter enthusiasm. Since the Dems cannot steal control of the State Senate, will they show up in droves to protect their Fleebaggers? Will Republican voters be enthused enough to show up to take those seats back?

Posted by: The Underground Conservative at August 10, 2011 08:04 AM (z6l0G)

62 I have a stupid liberal friend on Facebook who posted a whining message yesterday about how horrible it was that they were going to keep attacking the "working man." I still can't believe how duplicitous most liberals are... Republicans are either the super rich or poor white trash southerners, depending on which non sequitur argument they are propping up..

Posted by: Dave C at August 10, 2011 08:05 AM (C9VgD)

63

Posted by: Commander Thinbeard, Noodles Liberation Front at August 10, 2011 12:03 PM (lbo6/)

Piss off.

Posted by: Noodles Peoples Front at August 10, 2011 08:05 AM (B+qrE)

64 64, That a good darn question. In a way, this election will be just as telling as the first one. Who is more motivated? We shall see.

Posted by: Oldsailors poet at August 10, 2011 08:06 AM (ZDUD4)

65 Gotta run.. There's a bunch of Verizon workers out on strike in my town so I'm going to drive by and scream, "Get to work, pig nuts!!"

Posted by: Dave C at August 10, 2011 08:07 AM (C9VgD)

66 Posted by: WalrusRex at August 10, 2011 12:02 PM (Hx5uv)

A little self outting- My wife and I like So You Think You Can Dance (yes, I'll suffer the ridicule).  Two seasons ago, Ellen Degeneres (sp?) was a guest judge.  She started every critique with, "First off:  I could do that." 

Why is it that the Democrats seem to say exactly the same thing whenever Republicans produce promised results- when the Democrats have not done that in at least the 30+ years I've been alive?  That's exactly what that editorial is saying, "We could have done that."

Now, Ellen was, obviously, joking, and the democrats aren't.  But you get the point.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at August 10, 2011 08:08 AM (8y9MW)

67 69,

Make a sign that reads "Remember the Air Traffic Controllers".

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at August 10, 2011 08:09 AM (HFaiC)

68 A little self outting- My wife and I like So You Think You Can Dance (yes, I'll suffer the ridicule).

Please leave your Man Card on your way out. 

Posted by: EC at August 10, 2011 08:10 AM (GQ8sn)

69 Posted by: Noodles Peoples Front at August 10, 2011 12:05 PM (B+qrE) Uh, everbody... That is not the real commander of the Noodles Resistance Forces that regularly posts here.

Posted by: Commander Thinbeard, Noodles Liberation Front at August 10, 2011 08:11 AM (lbo6/)

70 70,

Being a former Drill sergeant please report to my bunker for a two week refresher course.

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at August 10, 2011 08:11 AM (HFaiC)

71

“The fact of the matter remains that, fighting on Republican turf, we have begun the work of stopping the Scott Walker agenda,” said state Democratic Party Chairman Mike Taint.

who also said yesterday:

"The race to determine control of the Wisconsin Senate has fallen in the hands of the Waukesha County clerk, who has already distinguished herself as incompetent, if not worse. She is once more tampering with the results of a consequential election and in the next hours we will determine our next course of action. For now, Wisconsin should know that a dark cloud hangs over these important results."

Hateful little cretin.

Posted by: Wm T Sherman at August 10, 2011 08:12 AM (w41GQ)

72 It's important that we have elections as often as possible until we win.

Posted by: The Cockroach left at August 10, 2011 08:16 AM (QcFbt)

73 I have a stupid liberal friend on Facebook who posted a whining message yesterday about how horrible it was that they were going to keep attacking the "working man."

Today he replaced it with "
The good news is 1 republican is against Walker's moves on collective bargaining, giving Senate dems a 17-16 edge in stopping anymore action in that area (not that there is really anything left to take away)"

I gloated a bit about the upcoming Dem recalls.

Posted by: Lauren

 

Tell him the real good news is that those parasites might bother to stay in the same state as the Senate chamber and do their jobs, which would be a triumph, because the Dems would finally be 'working men'.

Then wish him luck on his herpes clearing up.

Posted by: Blue Hen at August 10, 2011 08:17 AM (326rv)

74 I'd love to hear one political spokesman speak the truth after an election.

"Boy, we really got our ass handed to us tonight."

Posted by: lowandslow at August 10, 2011 08:18 AM (GZitp)

75 But the left counts it as a win:

It's kind of a win. Two Republicans got chucked out of office mid-term for approximately no reason, and six of them had to run their campaigns all over again, to gain nothing-at-most. And millions of otherwise-useful dollars were wasted on politics, instead of spent on, like, beer and trucks.

But here's the thing. Lefties have been very successful at making not being one of them hazardous to professionals' security/well-being/careers/etc., and these recalls, regardless of their outcome, were displays of a power they have over the professional class—not a power they'd have won if the recalls flipped x seats. A power they have.

You're a law guy, so you know: a process that's out of your control, into which you can be dragged against your will, is punishment. And punishment is what the left is really about. They like horserace wins, too, of course (because you lose if they win)—but that's not what they like-like.

My compulsive-"reply all" lefty acquaintances text-frowned, acted kinda surprised, and went quiet for a while when the Republicans weren't routed. Then they revivified themselves with sunrise plots of legislative/tax-code vengeance against "conservative PACs" and the Kochs. The rage-caps and exclamation points are back, undeterred.

I think you kinda don't get lefties. They're not in market-share competition with us, like Pizza Hut vs. Domino's or something. Pizza Hut doesn't exist to—or need to, or even want to—destroy Domino's.

Posted by: oblig. at August 10, 2011 08:18 AM (xvZW9)

76

The fact of the matter remains that, fighting on Republican turf, we have begun the work of stopping the Scott Walker agenda,” said state Democratic Party Chairman Mike Taint.

 

So those results were 'tainted'?

Posted by: Blue Hen at August 10, 2011 08:19 AM (6rX0K)

77 I think you kinda don't get lefties. They're not in market-share competition with us, like Pizza Hut vs. Domino's or something. Pizza Hut doesn't exist to—or need to, or even want to—destroy Domino's. Posted by: oblig. I understand them.. Watch their vernacular when the speak about the right then when they speak about terrorist, Chi-Comm, etc. They use emphatic terms with the later but have no problem using war lingo, violent rhetoric when speaking about the former. Reason.com just had a round up of libs talking just that.. One guy so far to even say he would like to see all the conservatives rounded up and put in re-education camps..

Posted by: Dave C at August 10, 2011 08:25 AM (C9VgD)

78 One guy so far to even say he would like to see all the conservatives rounded up and put in re-education camps..

Why is everyone looking at me?

Posted by: Eric Holder, planning to open FEMA Camps for AoSHQ commenters at August 10, 2011 08:37 AM (tqwMN)

79  Republican Sheila Harsdorf, once thought to be in danger, beat a teachersÂ’ union official by a 58–42 margin.

In fact, almost 350,000 people voted in Tuesday’s recall elections — and Republicans won 53 percent of the total vote.

Huge win for the unions!

Posted by: Jay at August 10, 2011 08:43 AM (3LaGb)

80

Been looking at the races up in 2012 now.

Wisconsin, which seems to have really gone red enough as is, will have voter ID laws in place for the first time in '12 (how much of an effect that will have I don't know), plus Walker's redistricting plan and the fact that the state is now right-to-work, so as time goes on the number 1 source of Democrat volunteers and money will wither away.

I think the WI legislature will stay in GOP hands by at least a couple seats if not more. They control it now, and that's before redistricting. There will be 3 statewide races unaffected by redistricting, Walker himself who I think will win, the POTUS race, where I think Obama may lose WI, and a US senate race where the incumbent D is retiring.

In 2012, Scott Brown is (I think almost certainly) toast. Deficit of 3 becomes 4. All the others, none of the GOP senators seem terribly weak.

Possible GOP pickups in Missouri (McCaskill in trouble), Montana (Tester barely won without breaking 50%), possibly Nebraska (Ben Nelson), possibly Florida (Bill Nelson, if he gets a good challenger), Wisconsin (Herb Kohl is retiring), Virginia (Jim Webb barely beat Allen and is also retiring too), and North Dakota (Kent Conrad is retiring).

Good tea party primary opportunities in Utah (Orrin Hatch) and Indiana (Dump Dick Lugar!)

Posted by: Entropy at August 10, 2011 08:55 AM (IsLT6)

81 “Let’s be clear, anyway you slice it, this is an unprecedented victory,” he said.

We spent millions of dollars, we got out every vote we could, we even rigged the election dates so we could take temporary control for a week before they had a shot at our guys... we rigged it as best we could... and we lost.

And we might lose back the 2 seats we got next week.

We wasted a crapton of money and didn't get any of our declared objectives?  What do liberals call that?

#WINNING  #UNPRECEDENTED VICTORY

Yeah... you guys keep winning.

“The fact of the matter remains that, fighting on Republican turf, we have begun the work of stopping the Scott Walker agenda,” said state Democratic Party Chairman Mike Tate.

Ok, so this is "Republican Turf"?  Lets look at their Presidential votes... Obama, Kerry, Gore, Clinton, Clinton, Dukakis.

How the **** do you call that "Republican Turf"?  If that is "Republican Turf" then where is "Democrat Turf"?  Is it in THIS country?

Posted by: gekkobear at August 10, 2011 09:01 AM (X0NX1)

82 It should be noted that all 6 districts from yesterday went for Obama in 2008 (via @jimgeraghty)

Posted by: AmishDude at August 10, 2011 09:05 AM (73tyQ)

83 For those of us in Wisconsin, it was a AoS Puddin Day!

Posted by: Janir at August 10, 2011 09:11 AM (HOjYi)

84 I was playing on Russian turf at Stalingrad, and I don't need to remind a smart milblogger like you how that turned out.

Posted by: Field Marshal von Paulus at August 10, 2011 09:20 AM (XpM53)

85

And state legislators should make adjustments in any follow-on budget-repair bill to make sure that any pain is fairly shared.

Um, why exactly?  Why should the pain of spendthrift towns be equally shared by more responsible towns?

Oh, yeah, that socialism thing.  Where the equal sharing of misery is the principal feature.

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 10, 2011 09:30 AM (4q5tP)

86 The moral of the story?  The protests in the state Capitol over Walker's budget fix last February and March got a lot of press, both locally and nationally, but in the end the electorate isn't made up of a majority of people who show up at protests in Madison.   It's made up of people who have jobs, houses, churches, kids, and interests outside of politics.   It's made up of people who don't think that it's out of line to ask teachers and government bureaucrats to pay a little toward their own health care or toward their own pensions.   It's made up of people who don't think that their taxes are too low, but who think, in general, that they're too high.   It's made up of people who don't think it's bizarre Tea Party extremism to want to balance a government's budget, since they try to balance their own families' budgets every day.

In other words, the Silent Majority.   Last night in Wisconsin, the Silent Majority spoke once again.  

As for the public employee unions, the moral of the story is:  Be Not Afraid.   They talk a big game.  But they are dinosaurs, slow-moving, half-witted, and willfully ignorant of the fact that their period of dominance is coming to an end.

Posted by: The Regular Guy at August 10, 2011 09:35 AM (qHCyt)

87 Posted by: Noodles Peoples Front

Splitters.

Posted by: Popular Front for the Liberation of Ramen at August 10, 2011 10:29 AM (GTbGH)

88 "So he's actually in a Bush district, and I can't believe his district is as Democratic as it seemed in 2008."

No district in America will be as Democratic as it seemed in 2008 between now and 2012. Not even the newsrooms of the MFM though their diminished numbers may become more shrill.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at August 10, 2011 11:17 AM (r4t7/)

89
“Let’s be clear, anyway you slice it, this is an unprecedented victory,"

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at August 10, 2011 12:07 PM (1hM1d)

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